If the NX actually uses Cartridges and they look like game cartridges with nice cover art would you buy physical games again?
I still buy physical games anyway, but yeah, I'd buy physical cartridge games for a console.
>implying I don't already buy physical
>not buying physical
>in the year 2011+1+1+1+1+1
Fuck no, that shit takes up too much space and makes my home look like a teenager's bedroom.
I buy physical anyway.
If it uses cartriges I won't buy an NX at all.
>>335848112
Its been 5 years since this meme? We are all going to die really fast.
>>335848232
Feel free to buy digitally then. Nintendo would prefer that you do.
>>335848686
Even though I prefer physical myself, it would be hilarious watching the rage if Nintendo announces it's digital only.
Cartridge race is master race.
Enjoy handing down your rotted discs and corrupted hard drives to your grandchildren. :^)
>>335848984
it would be pretty sweetI'm mostly interested in what would happen if a company who historically always gets their hardware hacked by consumers would do putting out a digital only console.
>>335850320
Good luck finding replacement batteries in 20+ years :^)
>>335850320
>rotted disks
What? They're plastic just like cartridges.
>>335847932
That would make me want to buy physical. Disc are just so shitty nowadays. Not too mention the manuals and boxart are pretty lackluster.
Gimme a cartridge with an awesome label and ill buy it.
>>335847932
What if it does not use discs or cartidges?
>Nintendo Amiibo-based games confirmed
>>335850874
I would assume NX carts would use flash memory, not batteries
>>335847932
Yes
>>335847932
Hell yea. Sounds impractical though. Isn't it way cheaper to use discs?
>>335850901
google 'disc rot'
I still buy physical copies. But I'd be interested to see how it would turn out if they did cartridges.
No because they would be Nintendo products and thus censored games.
>>335852747
And contacts can corrode over time too.
No format we've had yet will last forever.
>sending massive amounts of digital data through a 3.5mm jack
Why
>>335847932
Depends on how it's loaded into the console.
>hidden like the Nes/DS
Nah.
>top loaded and visible like Snes/n64
You bet.
Now that I think about it, cartridges would actually be pretty good nowadays. You can store massive amounts of data with flash memory, actually even more than discs.
The future of physical media is just installing the software to your system anyway, so at best a cartridge would just serve as a glorified SD card with maybe some kind of DRM.
Of course a lot of retards in this thread already think that just because N64 carts were inferior to CDs that that somehow still holds true 20 years later.
>>335848159
>not printing nice covers and putting them nicely on a shelf
slob
It would make sense considering all of the fucking rumors going around
but what about this?
I think an mega SD card would fit this concept a little more. Console in the controller, optional screen, etc.
>>335854090
>>335854004
dat hivemind lolololol
>>335850874
>Good luck finding replacement batteries in 20+ years :^)
I'll just have to find a new 3 volt battery. That must be really hard.
Maybe if the NX is significantly more powerful than the PS4.5 and has a normal fucking controller I'll but it.
>>335854090
>>335854004
fucking shit can everyone calm the fuck down with this????
It has no sources, it's not credible. The controller being a "scroll" makes no fucking sense.
>>335853954
they still are inferior do you have any idea how much more expensive it is for a blu ray disk compaired to a sd card
>>335854273
it ain't the controller being the scroll m8
it's the screen inside. The bitch looks retarded anyways it probably just slides up.
This might be a nice concept and could be a success.
>>335847932
Physical media has been obsolete for quite some time.
Other than for the sake of autstic-levels collecting, there's no point in having a shelf of physical copies when you can have them loaded on a hard drive that takes up a fraction of the space. You wanna talk about what's limiting consoles and gaming in general? It's fucking slow-ass blu-ray read times.
I've never once said, 'boy i love all these PS2 games taking up space when I can just buy a digital HD version'.
And I especially don't get the Nintendo levels of fanaticism with physical merchandise. Please, for the love of god, enter the 21st century.
>>335854384
this sounds comfy. If it's a portable, would it simply fit inside of your pocket?
I guess we'll have to wait and see
>>335847932
If they brought back cardboard box cases instead of the standard plastic, I wouldn't hesitate for a second on buying physical copies.
>>335847932
>3.5 mm connector
Can that legitimately transfer data fast enough that it can run games?
>buy game cartridge
>it's the ZeldaU/NX one
>game is +64GB loaded on a tiny cartridge
>every time I play the game, there's a multimillion writes and rewrites on the cartridge
>implying this shit will last longer than a year
>>335854976
In which universe does Nintendo ever make games that big?
>>335854273
>the NX controller is really the Dead Sea Scrolls
>the Nintendo NX is actually the Rapture
>>335854976
Thank you
Totally forgot about the downsides to Flash and NAND memory.
Not to mention, CHEAP Flash and NAND memory.
>>335854976
>every time I play the game, there's a multimillion writes and rewrites on the cartridge
What? No there aren't, you idiot. The writes and rewrites are on the fucking console memory / memory card when you save.
There are millions of reads, but those are basically free. The actual cartridge is probably only written to once.
>>335854976
Why would there be writing to the cartridge?
>>335854876
Retro games perhaps?
>>335855159
What, don't you want third party games?
The next ES is going to be that big.
>>335847932
I like cartridges. Feels good popping one in my GBA or 3DS. I only buy digital if the price is absurdly discounted, i.e. EO4.
>>335855376
>>335855447
>not old enough to remember GB/GBC cartridges
sure is neo-nintendofags around here
>>335854090
Nintendo NX confirmed to be greatest system ever
>>335847932
I always buy physical for consoles, why would I trust my rights to my property solely to a corporation?
>>335853969
that looks fucking terrible
>>335851375
>all the amiibos you already bought are now full video games
>>335854273
It just slides up senpai.
Controller with screen inside controller + TV = NX Hardcore Gameplay.
Controller with screen slide out = Portable Gameplay
Controller with screen slide out + TV = Wii U BC
>>335855639
The next ES is going to be that big because there's going to be a loop bug that re-writes massive amounts of code over and over. Bethesda will be too incompetent to discern it and or deal with it so they'll just figure out a way to stop it and leave it in. Also the rest of the space will be taken up by 12 uncompressed languages.
>>335855718
Are you stupid? Why the fuck would you write to the cartridge when the system has memory inside of it to hold saves?
The gameboy didn't have memory inside of it to hold saves. You're trying way too fucking hard and its honestly so fucking stupid and pathetic. You just can't wait to try and feel superior to someone because you're clearly the only person in the world who remembers that cartridges used to hold the save files.
>>335847932
Maybe they should release some games first
Maybe they should stop the region locking bullshit now
Maybe they should start worrying about their dying fanbase
Maybe nobody really cares about whether you use a cartridge or not
Maybe WE JUST WANT SOME FUCKING GAMES TO PLAY
OR MAYBE I DON'T CARE ABOUT NINTENDO ANYMORE
>>335853969
I hope you don't actually use this, it cheats its margins a lot
>>335856006
If this is true and someone at ubisoft fucked up I'm going to laugh.
So would the system be inside the controller itself?
http://www.macronix.com/CachePages/en-us-Product-ROM-default.aspx#128Mb
That's the company that Nintendo currently sources their ROM cartridges from. The company let it slip at an investor's conference that they were going to be a supplier for the NX. They have a larger ROM product currently available.
>Gaming Machine XtraROM®
>This device, while maintaining the same checksum of the content during lifetime of gaming machines, is widely used in Pachinko and PachinSlot for video/audio, and code storage. It features 32 I/O for fast speed, 70-SSOP package, and up to 32Gb in density.
>>335854447
I'm not trusting my property to a corporation, but you have a point about obsolescence. I'm worried that 4K blu rays might be physical media's last mainstream hurrah.
>>335854447
This is the millenial mentality.
There was a time where people could appreciate this thing called a "personal library" where a person could sit down in his or her library and read, study, or lend out books.
This doesn't really exist anymore since the millenial generation is growing up socializing through the phone and screen.
It's nice having all your games digital, but even then that becomes accumulation if data. You can't sell it and you can't lend it.
>>335854976
>your game is writing a million times
Millenial detected. It'll only write to save. It'll read far better than a disc.
>>335855718
Bait post troll frogposter.
>>335856006
I think games should take the form of cartridges for the handheld. These games can be graphically upgraded when the handheld is connected to the NX base console.
Nintendo knows this is what we want. R&D money.
>>335856006
This actually sounds kind of nice.
I miss proper manuals.
>>335855718
What fucking year is it
It would just use SD cards and a hard drive for saving
>>335854004
The actual name of the NX is supposed to shock people?
I really hope it's not something retarded.
I hope it's NEP (Nintendo Entertainment Platform)
>would you buy physical games again
implying i ever stopped.
>>335856451
They're not "eco" friendly.
I miss solid disc cases without the recycle cut out.
>>335856381
disc only get written once you can't reuse them
you could put the update directly on the cartridge
that would be the only reason to go for cartridge since blue ray and disc are cheaper and multi-usage
>>335853969
>literally pushing the margins
>uneven padding for the footer
>exclamation marks with no seperation and clipping against the edges of the cover
>awful font
>detailed pistol in the hands of a circle headed snake
>another circle for no reason
the only clever thing is the headband even if it looks like ass
>>335856451
Xseed still does proper manuals.
>>335856842
>exclamation marks with no seperation and clipping against the edges of the cover
to be fair that probably wraps around to the back
>the only clever thing is the headband even if it looks like ass
I didn't even realize the headband, that's how shit it is
>>335856718
That would be cool to keep updates on the cartidge.
It could be like Famicom disk system.
And it would also help when you don't have online and games like battlefront and street fighter v are nearly useless without updates.
>>335856348
Here's the thing though
It would be fine if games were self-contained on a disc.
But they're fucking not
Especially with Nintendo, there is DLC and patches out the ass.
Despite owning the game, Nintendo can very will limit you to what games you can and can't play, and it's naive to think otherwise.
Think of it this way, I would rather have my game all on the same media--patches, DLC, than have it spread out on two or more media.
Also, the reason why a Nintendo user MIGHT prefer physical over digital is probably due to Nintendo's asinine method of digital content management. If you told a Sony user that their games were tied to one console and that they had to back-up their account less they lose everything due to catastrophic lose or failure, they would laugh themselves shitless.
>>335854447
That sonic 2 cart I got for my genesis in 1992? I can still play it on a different genesis if my first one breaks. if my 360 breaks and the service is no longer offered, I will never see those againunless pirating counts, in this situation i really don't think it does.
Isn't the NX going to be all digital games?
>>335857069
Yeah, but if you have it on disc there's always a vanilla version available to you. Just disconnect from the internet if you're playing, otherwise at least emulators will someday let you play without issues.
Digital downloads, on the other hand, can just be removed from the store suddenly and not be available to download anymore.
>>335856718
I would think the primary reason to go cartridge would be to physically remove the Blu-ray drive from the console footprint and the bill of materials. The read speed of a cartridge might also allow for the HDD to be optional [because games wouldn't need to install], but I would think they'd want the storage available for digital purchases.
>>335855718
If it has cartridge based savegames, which is retarded in the year of our lord and savior Jesus Christ 2016 when console hard disks are prolific, then it still only has to write one single time for every time you save.
>>335856274
THIRD PARTY SUPPORT FROM KONAMI CONFIRMED
>>335854447
It's cheaper, though.
When games start hitting the 100gb+ mark it might just be easier to go back to physical
>>335856381
So, you're either hording data or physical space?
I'd rather horde data on one convenient, practical hard drive that runs circles around physical media in regards to reads and write times than slow optical media.
If my hard drive fails, I can just re-download them.
>Can't do that with a disc
Granted consoles still don't have this, but Steam already allow family and friends sharing, where I can instant give and deny access to the game
>Lend a physical copy to a friend, and you effectively can't play it until you get it back
You're pretty much admitting your afraid of change and evolution for the sake of nostalgia, labeling people who use and understand technology as 'millennials'.
>>335847932
Disc are cheaper. They would have to make cards that hold up to 50gbs which cost 1/3 of the game or more
>>335856528
Did someone say Nep?
>>335857750
Hard drives are increasingly getting larger and larger without compromising reliability. And half the reason why digital copies of games are so large is because of uncompressed audio files--because decompressing creates a resource overhead.
Like literally, how big and expensive do you think the average HDD is nowadays--I can buy a 4TB HDD for $100. If I completely file that space, then I would consider that money well-spent.
>>335858006
>Dg
Snoop would never misspell D-O-Double-G
>>335857759
Just because a physical medium exists, doesn't mean the digital does not.
>>335857750
Anyways, if you wanna argue game size in relation to the limitations of modern consoles, that's another thing, but for every AAA game that's 60GB+, there are games like Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne that can fit in everything sub 30GB's, including DLC.
>>335857750
Except by the time it's formatted and all of the consoles updates are installed you'll only have half of that to store games
>>335857802
Flash memory is pretty cheap nowadays.
>>335847932
>he doesn't buy physical games
Enjoy being stuck with Fallout 4 forever
>>335858051
It's not the hard disk that costs, you generally need that anyway these days even with physical copies. With large quantities of data, the server/data costs are pretty expensive.
>>335858283
still not cheaper then disc.
>>335854976
3ds runs NAND and has been fine for so long.
>>335856123
>>335856842
what do you mean about cheating/pushing the margins?
>>335857759
Why do download fags always forget that there are objective downsides like download speeds and corporate meddling to their precious rentals? I play on PC so it's my only real option, and it's fine with GOG or pirating since there's no DRM, but if I got a console I would buy physical games, just as I always have and will. BTW, a digital game costs around $15 less than a physical game to make, so have fun paying a corporation an extra 25% for an incomplete game.
>>335854976
>64gb rom that gets read over and over
No issues here
>Small 64mb or something save storage chip that gets written once whenever you save
No issues here either
I don't get it?
>>335858430
No, but it's a shitload faster. Also
>then
Quit being a fucking failure, you pathetic child.
>>335856657
They don't make digital manuals, either. That's the main issue. No manual making at all, just one whole booklet filled with copy pasta seiture warnings and maintenance numbers that already came with the console.
>>335858518
Whoever made that cover left very little room between text/artwork and the edges of the paper, which doesn't look as clean or well-framed as a well planned out cover. Notice the distance between objects and the edges in this picture.
>>335853969
When is the "super minimalist looks good" meme going to end?
>>335858842
neat. thanks for the explanation.
>>335858332
Never said I don't buy physical. I only by digital if it's the only way to get it.
>>335854976
"I was only pretending to be retarded."
Nintendo NeXt is DoA
Almost as bad to naming Xbone
Fact
If they have NVMe SSD's speed and cost the same as retail does now, fuck yeah, if not there is no reason, digital with a SSD on the console is the way to go.
>>335859450
>NeXt
>implying it's not going to be the Nixtendo, Nix for short
>>335848241
>tfw started browsing a few months before that meme started
>that number has ticked up 5 times and I'm still here
It's a fucking kill me sort of feeling.
>>335859450
>>335859667
>implying it's not Ninendo Xbox
>>335854976
You have no idea how game cartridges work do you kiddo?
you mean the $70+ priced games that would happen due to how discs are many times cheaper?
>>335854976
NAND literally never dies.
Have you seen how long it takes to actually kill a usbstick or a ssd?
about 20 years+ of solid readwrites
Thats 24/7 a day 376 not just the small read/writes we do day to day
>>335856274
Holy fuck they are going back to cartridges?
Did they forget how it fucking killed the N64?
>>335859667
Don't be reddit retarded. NX = Neex
>>335858801
But anon you have to purchase the GAMEGUIDE separatelyfuck
Honestly though most modern games have a manual built in unless its some stupid chink shit like dark souls
>>335859849
Isn't flash storage super cheap now or something?
I don't know much about this shit but I remember reading that somewhere.
>>335859849
Games are already $70+ everywhere else
Even 89USD+
>>335847932
I think cartridges would be good, honestly.
>Super fast
>Can hold as much information as CDs nowadays
>Around the same price to manufacture AFAIK
Literally no reason not to go back to cartridges now.
>>335847932
I still buy physical games on all consoles.
The only downloadable games I do on console are stuff like Xbox Live arcade on 360 which give no other choice.
PC for download. Console for physical copy.
What's the difference about having it on a slow speed cart vs a hard drive? Sounds like it's going to add more cost to distribute for no reason.
>>335860187
discs are still way way cheaper
>>335860198
fine, then enjoy $80 cartridge games then
>>335860040
Technology changed, pretty sure you can fit more info on mini cartridge than a disc. The method is what stops companies from doing it. Disc are cheaper to produce and also easier to damage forcing consumers to buy those games again.
Facts
>>335859849
Flash storage is cheap as dirt now of days it isn't 2005 anymore. You can 64 gig flash cards for under 20, and seeing how Nintendo hasn't made a 3s game over 10 gigs to date they probably aren't even going to need that.
>>335860221
Or they could just do what every other console does and load the data onto a SSD/HDD
Modern HDD's are pretty fast.
Fuck sake are they completely stupid? Just give people a option for user upgradable SSD
>>335860306
Your funny they would be well over $100usd here
>>335860313
>Buying physical media
>current year
Why? Even the PS4's PSN and Steam is better than physical.
>>335860419
>Why? Even the PS4's PSN and Steam is better than physical.
Objective Lies
>>335860419
>Why? Even the PS4's PSN and Steam is better than physical
see >>335860480
>>335860092
>Don't be reddit retarded
more like redditarded
>>335854976
>"M-muh rewrites!"
Shut the fuck up you uneducated cuck. Why don't you go back to fearing the cloud or something?
>>335860282
Also, adding to this Steam makes it very simple to backup all your games to a harddrive or disc if that's your thing. Lots of options. Don't know how Uplay or Origin fare in that regard.
I don't think consoles allow this at all so you're way better off just buying physical. Plus everything is now Blu-ray and they don't scratch nearly as bad as old DVD games did.
>>335859450
>>335859667
>>335860092
Still saying it's going to be simply called Nintendo X (X will be pronounced 'Cross')
as long the name isn't Nintendo eXperience i'm fine
>>335860634
I'm going to use that.
>>335860480
>Wanting physical media
Most of the time its useless and cant run on its own without first going online anyway
Sure the PS4 and Xbox one can still do those things but PC games cant.
Next Gen they will probably Drop physical media completely.
Its only there because people have shit internet and or are stupid
>>335860527
>Wanting Optical media
WHY?
Its slow, cant store any big amounts of data, easy to replace and fucking useless as fuck.
As stupid as cartridges are at least they have a much faster read write speed and can be almost infinitely written and read from with no downside.
Also provides a interesting upgrade path for better graphics SNES and N64 style
>>335860386
What about third party companies and games that are huge?
Companies won't like the idea of having to sell games at a higher cost for them with carts, so they'll either pass the cost to the consumer or they'll not support the console at all.
>>335860386
Yes but as a company, you want to go the cheapest reasonable option.
>>335860684
Steam does allow backups, but it's not much use when they have DRM.
>>335847932
But if you buy physical copies you don't get My Nintendo reward points. I'm not even shitting you. They don't put codes in the box anymore.
>>335860684
Uplay and Origin dont do this yet their fucking useless
>>335860721
Anything physical is fine, I want my own copy of the game files that aren't constantly open to corporate meddling.
>>335858927
Super minimalist looks good when done right. This looks poorly done regardless of minimalism.
>>335860704
>Nintendo eXperience
>first game is another enhanced remake of LBXsecond game fucking when level 5
>>335847932
You nostalgiafags are the worst. We ALREADY HAVE CARTRIDGES ON THE 3DS???????
>>335860870
Lol what a stupid justification.
If you want game files that are free from corporate medallnig just fucking pirate the PC version and save it on a NAS somewhere
Better yet dont be a dumbfuck and stop supporting physical media.
PC Gamers have had to put up with physical media been dead in the water since 2005
We never got games on blu ray and still have the option to buy them on DVD but it takes like 10 discs so nobody does it.
>>335847932
>Using obsolete tech
I could not expect any less of Nintendo.
>>335860757
Steam itself is a form of DRM. Just way more lenient than it used to be. It still gives you tons of options after downloading a game to put it on something physical and tangible.
Consoles are pure DRM that give no options unless they're hackable and nothing new is yet. Plus the more online becomes introduced the more you get fucked as a consumer.
Ask ANY original Xbox owner about it. Literally forced to buy an Xbone if you want to have the privilege to play Halo 2 maps online again. Don't really have that problem on PC. Can't play SOCOM II with my old friends anymore either. Sony shut that down years ago.
>>335860040
It doesn't mean they are going back to cartridges, only that Macronix is going to be a supplier. They could be supplying flash storage for the console itself.
The reasons cartridges were a negative on the 64 are not as applicable today.
>>335861118
>Flash Storage
But WHY?
It will be some stupidly small amount like 16gb or 32gb like the original wii u
Even 6 years ago that was stupidly small
Fuck they are retarded.
>>335861074
Funny how nintendrones defend it and physical media in general
>>335860721
>interesting upgrade path for better graphics SNES and N64 style
I don't think that is accurate, at least if the cartridges would be a higher-density extension of the 3DS cartridges.
>>335860721
>Most of the time its useless and cant run on its own without first going online anyway
Wrong, that is dev/company laziness, and release date presures to put out unfinished product to make their bottom line.
>Sure the PS4 and Xbox one can still do those things but PC games cant.
Non Issue
>Next Gen they will probably Drop physical media completely.
Incorrect, people are not stupid. They still buy physical copies of movies, and music. Not everyone like being cucks like you.
>Its only there because people have shit internet and or are stupid
Objective lies. You do not need internet to play single player, split screen, or lan games. Not all games need multiplayer either.
I'd buy cartridges if they shaped and smelled like dog shit.
I HATE digital.
>>335854976
Yea that was the problem I had with NES games. Fuckers barely last 30 years what a scam.
>>335861285
>But WHY?
For a smaller physical package and lower power consumption. Look, I don't know what fucking product Macronix is actually providing the system or in what density, okay? Don't get yourself all riled up like a fucking nigger.
fuck no. too much trouble
>>335861551
Best bait for (Yes)
>>335861054
>lol ur stupid
>just pirate the PC version
this entire thread is about consoles dumbfuck
>>335856528
The Japanese don't speak very well English so they probably didn't see the issue with naming it Nintendo Interactive Gaming System.
>>335861457
My nes/snes/n64 games still work, but can't say the same for the systems they play on.
>nintendo actually goes full ROM
>nintendo is shocked when complaints about bugs start flying in.
>developers are embarrassed as they're sloppy as fuck with regards to quality control.
>pull out of nintendo NX
>nintendo continues to sink even lower.
>>335861414
>if u get banned on ps4 you lose access to all your online purchases
Consumers are dogshit retarded
I hope they do it. Be the final nail in their coffin. Then they can stop with their console shit and make games for playstation
nintendo would be better served by making something like Sony's set-top-box/Vita-TV/Micro-console thing....
Something that basically runs higher-end ARM games.
>>335861938
this is where you've got a point.
Fuck it, Games suck today.
>>335861698
It would be great if proper cartridges were a thing again, because they could add capabilities not part of the original system.
But sadly it's cheaper to just use flash memory.
>>335857319
>vanilla version
>buggy as fuck, no DLC content...
why would you want this?
>>335861874
This is probably why they won't do it. Too many games need to be patched.
Nintendo are stuck in the 90's
In fact their stock is even lower then that.
>>335861074
On a scale of one to ten, how retarded do you have to be to think discs are faster than flash memory?
>>335859000
>trips
>>335862961
What is the context of your question?
SSDs are much faster than HDDs.
>>335863505
When they said "obsolete tech" I am assuming they are comparing cartridges to blu-ray.
>>335850874
>Battery
>Modern cart
You stupid fuck, we have writable capable persistent SODIMM now.
They would have to redesign new cards and ports too. Instead of using the mass produced older disc dirves and blu-rays
>>335864586
Right -- that's the point. If -- big if -- they went with cartridges, it would be precisely because they don't want to use disc drives or Blu-ray.
I just wish they reduce boxart size. No manuals, no adverts, or whatever. All that wasted space.
>>335847932
Are there people soo in love with their childhood that the media a game comes in is more important than the actual game?
>>335859725
Just so we're clear, browsing since 2010-2011 does not make one an oldfag.
