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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i92rgRDT0lI
Thoughts?
>>335784813
It's wave based shit with slow and shitty meme ''glory kills'''that make ammo management a joke.
The shoehorned weapon upgrade system doesn't add anything and feels forced as fuck.
The music is wubwub cancer and monsters are fucking pinatas.
It tries to appeal everyone and fails at everything.
Looks like shit. Bullet sponge enemies, boring weapos, executions for health pickups... no ty
>>335784813
Oh look, it's shit, the music is shit, the shit that the enemies drop is shit, the brutal doom kill shit is shit. It's just shit.
I'm not surprised.
>>335784813
Turn off the UI, amp up the difficulty, and it looks like a fun game
I almost vomited with seeing the first QTE execution.
>Jumping
>Melee glow
>Melee in general
>Grenades
>Stairs
>Soundtrack is muted when swapping weapons
As much as the player switches his weapons like a spastic in an attempt to make the game look fast, the game still looks slow and boring
>>335784813
I remember there was always that one faggot in comments saying, "DURR! You don't have to do glory kills!"
Well guess fucking what? This game rewards you more ammo, health, and armor drops for their QTE melee kills so now l'm forced to fucking do it. I mean, why wouldn't you do it if you're guaranteed more health? The novelty of melee kills will end fast with you stopping every 2 seconds to watch the QTE. Fuck DOOM 4.
>>335785136
>Fuck DOOM 4.
Doom*
>making a gameplay video of doom
>using a gamepad
>>335785180
>playing on second lowest difficulty
Their game isdoomedto fail
>>335785227
T b h anyone not playing this on Ultraviolence first day is a scrub, thats the canon difficulty
It looks like fun. I'm not sure about buying it, but I'd rent it or pirate it to try it out.
But then again, I'm not incredibly well-versed in how a "proper Doom" should look.
Looks like a good FPS, but not a good DOOM game
>>335785168
D44M*
>>335785320
good compared to modern fps sure but that isn't saying much at all...
The level design's so damn generic and tame. Doom 3 did a better job than this.
>>335785271
Boy, i can't wait to slowly lumber around massive bullet sponges. Only to realize the only effective way to play through levels will be abusing the QTE executions on everything.
>>335785136
>now l'm forced to fucking do it
no you're not.
>>335785073
>>335785136
>QTE
While I understand and agree with your complaint, the executions aren't QTEs. They're just single button prompts.
>>335785180
it was made for consoles tho
its expected
Is Doom 64 worth playing through? Please respond.
>>335785432
yes
>>335785432
Not really but compared to this, yeah. Just make sure you do that glitch that makes you FAST.
>>335785427
Oh, so it's a dead franchise, good to know.
>>335785418
if you want health and ammo yes
>>335785432
yes, you can use doom64EX
>>335785432
Doom 64 is the true sequel to Doom 2. Get the full conversion PC port to enjoy mouse aiming.
>>335785463
>>335785473
>>335785495
>>335785509
Thanks guys.
remove the executions, make it harder and faster and it could be fun i guess
slow paced modernized consolized cancer
i dont like getting health pickups off killing monsters. id rather have the health packs u pick up off the ground. this made you really be careful in the original doom. the fear was part of the experience. seems like pandering to casuals, i hope you can mod it
>>335785432
It's what Doom 3 should have been
>>335784813
Dan doesn't really look like something I'd enjoy. Ah well.
>>335784813
It looks like what Diablo 3 would look like if it was first person. Why does it have this chibi-esque, haunted mansion 2spooky vibe going for it right now? Where Doom3 attempted to make things dark and gritty, DOOM16 has fucking cobwebs strewn throughout the whole game and these soft looking monsters
>>335785675
You dont even really need to do them since they drop ammo with or without them
Really its juat about having more agressive enemies, but IIRC they were playing on Hurt Me Plenty, and difficulties go up to Ultra Nightmare
>>335784813
Growing up with Doom, and I mean the actuaal Doom not BrutalDoom or whatever, this looks like fun but too fast. I have no goddamn clue where everyone is coming up with it being too slow or how Doom was always fast. I never got that impression back in like 92.
But then again I'm really not the audience here. They want balding 20 somethings that wear tight pants and horn rimmed glasses, not 30 somethings that remember a world without the internet. So whatever works I guess.
>>335784813
>demo played with a controller
>and he plays like ass
why are devs keep doing this
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335785102
>>Soundtrack is muted when swapping weapons
Only if you plan on playing with a controller
Looks and sounds like ass. I expected nothing less.
>>335784813
>peashooters
dropped
>>335785420
And few RPGS are actually role playing games. its a QTE by definition of the term. You run up, you get a prompt, and if you press it, you get positive feedback.
>>335784813
Quality over Quantity as far as enemy design is concerned is not acceptable. I don't want to take on one enemy at a time. Also enemy design sucks aside from the Baron of Hell. Executions are stupid and are used as a crutch for improper level design and ammo placement.
DOOM was never about aiming. It was about dodging projectiles, picking targets, and using your weapons in creative ways. I don't want to hunt down and pin down every imp. I want to kill three of them in a row with a well placed super shotgun hit from the proper angle.
they keep talking about "lore"
>>335786048
How often do difficulty levels affect AI behavior in FPSs and not just bump up their health or damage dealt to the player?
>>335786082
People who think its too slow are idiots who will use a speedrunning video as evidence when they themselves play nowhere near on that level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2gQQUjx3j8
>implying anybody will care about this modernized garbage for longer than a month while the real DOOM games are still going fairly strong after 20 years
>>335786205
We'll have to play the game to find out, in Doom4s case.
Interesting though, I notice in the monster codexs they had levels to them, and I saw an armored variation of one enemy during some Mars footage. So im thinking the higher level the enemy the more defense and attack capabilities they have.
They put alot of thought into the weapon mods and functionality while balancing it with the wheel, so im anticipating something similar with the enemies too.
The game looks good but it didn't need to have the Doom name associated. They said they made Doom for 2016, which is a fair point, but it has other focus points than the original Doom, making it too different gameplay wise.
They could've started a new IP, but that probably wouldn't sell.
It has different mechanics that most shooters of today, which is nice though
>>335786082
I take it you never found out how to sprint.
>>335784813
i'll leave this here
>>335786082
If you cant see the speed difference I dont know what to tell you, maybe you are too old to notice.
>ok, art team. i want you to design a level that takes place in fucking hell. do you have any ideas?
>how about ancient ruins with blood everywhere
>brilliant
how can anyone be this creatively-bankrupt?
>>335786327
id's heart and soul have gone into the negative zone at this point
>>335786327
Standard procedure to me
But I forget yoy children dont know anythingg about how business works. You dont dump millions into a project without ensuring a solid return.
Besides, at least they made a point of remaining faithful to the series as much as possibel. And the only really bad thing about F3 was the main story, nobody misses the old games.
>>335786327
>faithful to other games in the series
>Fallout 3 as an example
O-okay, thanks
>>335784813
>Thoughts
It looks slow to a stifling degree. Player and enemy movement speed need to be at least doubled.
Too much consolitis in general. I understand everything has to be slowed down to be playable on a controller, but I think it's safe to say the PC version is going to be a straight port and just as slow.
>>335786206
Makes sense. I remember playing games in the snow, uphill both ways with duct tape for shoes. Now kids don't even play games, they watch them.
Someone pull an Old Yeller on me already.
Shitty fps, bad graphics, slow as fuck, generic music
0/10 would no go to hell
>>335786082
How the fuck do people like you exist?
How can you just lie so easily?
>>335786327
>fallout 3 expertise
my sides
>>335785481
Doom was dead long ago
This shit right now is a profanation of its corpse, bethesda pulling the corpse like a puppeteer pulls strings in hopes of luring people through the old fame it earned long ago
>>335786442
Fuck you.
>3 SHOTGUN BLASTS TO A CACAO JUST SO YOU CAN MELEE IT TO DEATH
Yeah no fuck this, I'm out. Bet the higher difficulties aren't actually harder either just crank up those HP numbers even more. The only mobs that should feel tough are mobs designed to be like those Werebulls in Serious Sam, most other things die pretty fucking fast.
>>335786442
Lordy, viral apologists, pls go
>>335786409
i hope there are more levels that are completely absract and disgusting
even the original had walls made of intestines and stuff
>>335786613
Breh i wish i was getting paid for shitting on the hivemind
>>335784975
Yah, and enemies drop health when you kill them with executions, so it really isnt all that different from regen health for practical purposes.
>>335786584
looks likes everything revolves around the glory kills, all the bigger guys seems to have a fuckton of health, only to get the glory kill at the end
>>335786656
>defending ZeniMax
>shitting on the hivemind
pick one
Please tell me you can turn off that shitty finisher glow.
>>335786442
>nobody misses the old games.
I would kill you if I could get away with it, you piece of shit.
>>335784813
I swear to god they should have gotten machinegames to make it. they would have made something awesome
>>335786504
It's basically bethesda/zenimax need something to compete with halo and cod
they own the doom ip now so it's a no brainer buisness wise
>>335786164
That's not a QTE
>>335784813
Jesus fuck it looks boring as hell. You move slow as molasses, the weapons don't have any strength to them, the level design is basic as fuck, the enemies drop lots of colorful stuff when they explode like if they were fucking pinatas and all those takedowns only serve to make the gameplay even slower.
Dead. On. Arrival.
>>335786721
actually you can
>>335784813
Meh, I'll wait for Shadow Warrior 2
>>335786721
Even if you can you would still be playing a game where the devs think gay ass fuck finishers are a good idea
>>335786742
I could get away with it, but I couldn't kill him. Let's team up.
>>335784813
I haven't even played DOOM and I feel like part of my childhood was raped
>>335785495
You're not forced
>>335784813
>A whooping amount of three enemies on screen simultaneously
>Worse AI than the original Doom (Enemies constantly have trouble turning to face you)
>Peashooter weapons
>Enemies drop all the health, armor and ammo you need
>Takedowns
>Double jumping
The true successor™ to Doom
I'm glad I expected nothing to begin with.
>>335786206
I wonder what Pee Aye Are stands for....
>>335786584
What happens if you don't use a glory kill when it's stunned? Does it just get back up?
Also 3 SSG shots is the same as the original IIRC
>minigun
>overheat
Wow, looks fun!
>>335784813
It's like a parody except it's real.
>>335786865
That's just for the triple chaingun mode.
The regular chaingun mode has a "wind up" mechanic.
I heard there's a third mode for that but it will probably be equally shitty
>>335785136
You only get more rewards if you have a rune equipped made for it.
It was in the hour long footage they showed and they explained it that it is the rune that makes more pinata prizes and the runes are only health/ammo/armor rather than all at once.
>>335786869
That's exactly what I'm thinking whenever I see this game
>>335785271Ultraviolence is locked until you beat the game once
>>335786721
You can turn off almost anything, and alter FOV at will which is a surprise.
>>335786858
Yup
Also no mate, 2 at close range
Too slow, too many pop ups on screen, hate this HUD. Looks like Halo: Demons Edition.
>>335786082
Dumbass. Doom was extremely fast paced and just because your piece of shit junker computer couldn't run it past 5 fps back in the day doesn't mean it was a slow game.
>>335784813
This is the definition of a console fps.
>>335784813
Make it 75% faster, remove melee and you might have something playable.
does the game really have less enemy variety than fucking doom 2?
>Not getting Phil and whoever remains from Pantera to do the instrumentals
Fucking useless desu
>>335786993
Dude that's my thoughts exactly. The game looks like a darker version of Halo.
>>335786721
You can turn off the game.
>>335787059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzrVtioigo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYzbl6lewk
>>335786993
you can disable every hud element and popups
>>335787035
from the wiki
Archvile
Baron of Hell
Cacodemon
Cyber-mancubus
Cyberdemon
Hell knight
Hell razer
Imp
Lost soul
Mancubus
Pinky
Possessed
Revenant
Spectre
The Unwilling
>>335787059
those guys are probably living dead from all the drugs and shit by now, they certainly can't produce anything of quality
>>335787205
Would probably be better than the literal shit crapped out for this
>>335787246
the music is the least of all the problems toot has
>>335787246
>Mick Gordon
>shit
So many plebs identifying themselves ITT
>>335787205
Then hook up with something better. I'd rather be jamming Disturbed than this garbage. Its fucking doom, damn it, and for as long as that's going to mean something, I'm going to repeat it.
>>335786128
Dont kid yourself, it´s going to be that way on pc too.
They will give you a weapon wheel even if you play with a keyboard and mouse.
>>335787337
>Disturbed
jesus fuck, how horrible can someone's taste be?
you really shouldn't talk about music at all
This somehow manages to look worse than Doom 3.
Man this looks lame. Just unexciting. I'll wait to pass final judgement but it appears that it's all icing and no cake. Kind of sweet at first but just makes you feel shitty after a short while.
I forgot that DOOM is known for great music such as shitty industrial while a retard fiddles with a guitar
>>335787401
you can switch weapons without the wheel
>>335784813
>Still shilling this garbage
>>335787465
Yea lets discuss how ripped loops of 80s metal converted into MIDI are on the same level as Bach
I bet you think Vaporwave is the best shit ever you fucking fool
Man I was really hoping this would be good. I even got a fair amount of enjoyment out of Doom 3 but this is just another step down.
>>335787059
>>335787337
time for bed dad, you can listen to your ultra hardcore music in the morning
>>335787553
>Doom only had metal songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETV9fPmieOM
Fuck off
>>335787059
>Not getting Treznor to do the music
Hang yourself.
>>335787613
Isn't it past your bed time kid?
>>335787668
Dooms OST is primarily metal rips, stop trying
The new OST even makes use of chorale so dont even try to say "muh variety"
>>335787703
if you didn't grow out of listening to metal after high school, I'm so sorry for you
>>335787613
Go to bed jimbo
Why don't nostalgiafags just go play classic doom?
>>335786303
>It has different mechanics that most shooters of today
Like what, shooting your gun? Jumping? Dedicated grenade button? Qte´s? Upgrade system?
It looks like a run of the mill shooter with a grim dark look, nothing about it is original. .
>>335787401
This is something that doesn't even happen in the shittiest of ports. You can always use numbers to switch weapons in PC games.
>>335787784
Who's saying we're not? Doesn't mean you can't judge this obviously lazy garbage.
>>335787784
because everyone who has wanted to literally has for the past 20+ years
>>335787759
I'm sorry but 'tay tay' and this vaporwave non music shit doesn't count as real music.
Metal might be shit tier in the end, but it's music at least, the same cannot be said for any of the shit you listen to.
>>335787751
The metal to non-metal ratio is about half. And some songs have guitar in them without being chugga chugga bullshit (E1M8)
t. guy who works on WADs as a musician
>>335787848
You're judging it for what it's not, not for what it is
>>335785136
Actually, ammo drops only if you use the chainsaw, which pretty much replenishes all your guns.
>>335787903
And what it is is produced by ZeniMax
>mfw "press X to execute demon"
Not doom, get this casual shit out of here
>>335787880
how are metalfags still so quick to take any bait thrown to them? you fags really never grow out of that edgy phase do you?
>>335787903
We're judging it for both being a piece of shit and for being doom only in name
>>335787987
Because it's the only genre still worth a damn.
Even classical is being overrun by derivative wankers like John Williams.
I'm not even that much of a metalhead, I wish someone would make some decent hard rock again, but they don't.
>>335787880
>non music
>real music
>at least its music
people still say these things? metalfags truly never change, or grow up
>>335788070
dadrocker please go
>>335788070
Most metal fucking dogshit and there are certainly other genres worth looking at
T. Guy who listened to mostly metal for over 9 years
This looks awful
>>335788146
No.
>>335788165
Depends on what you listen to.
Let me completely alienate myself from the group - Devin Townsend > Everyone currently making music
>>335788169
>dumb animeposter thinks his opinion is worth shit
>>335788070
maybe if you actually looked for more music you'd find some. There's literally hundreds of fantastic bands releasing great music every year, but you just stick your head in the sand and listen to the same infantile garbage like That Kid in middle school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdMz7BUtOvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EagCKe2Au8E
those are just two recent examples
>>335788210
devin townsend is a fucking faggot and you're sucking his dick
>>335788236
>reddit still triggered by anime
Loving every laugh.
>>335788070
every genre ever has good and shit music, get out of your special snowflake metal bubble, theres thousands of garbage metal bands
>>335788284
Kek this
>wrong generation metal nerds still exist on 4chan
Is it 2011 again?
>>335784813
I figured out what bothers me so much about the way this game looks. It looks like a game you'd see on a TV show, something a team of interns came up with to show that the characters are playing a "super violent" game, but not so super violent that it can't be shown on TV.
Thge real tragedy is that devs once again think Doom is all about mindless killing, and not the great balance between Action, Suspense and Exploration.
The future of Doom is an all-release no-tension killfest with chugga chugga chugga metal and Epic QTEs For The Win.
>>335788378
>implying we ever left
>implying we didn't build this site and aren't coming to claim it back.
Super Eurobeat fags can stay, everyone else go back to feddet.
Its worse than we thought
looks shit and old fashioned
>>335788070
>m-m-muh metal and hard rock
get off 4chan dad
>>335788463
Yea, the levels themselves were like puzzles that you had to solve while surviving
Thank god theres Snapmap
I dont care
The game should have been horror fps like doom 3, you can't make a better game than doom 2 with all the mods it has to offer
so am I just misunderstanding what's shown in this video, or does this game make no sense? It starts out with the player following a checkpoint to a big drop into this dungeon area. The next checkpoint is on this teleporter thing that has a cage around it, so it seems he has to kill all the monsters to open it up. He fails at this and dies. When he respawns, the cage lifts on the teleporter and he enters it, only to be teleported to a spot in the area he had already been running around when he was killing monsters to open the teleporter. What the fuck is the point of making that teleporter a checkpoint thing if it only leads to an area you can already access without it?
>>335788507
>caring
>>335788481
>Super Eurobeat
you're alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woIFVl_mt20
Holy shit some of the weakest and worst weapon sounds I have ever fucking heard
>>335788561
They can't even make a faithful recreation of E1M2 with it
>>335788517
(you)
>>335787434
I wouldn't listen to Rules of Nature on my Ipod, either fuckass, but it fits what's going on screen.
I have never seen a more wimpy shotgun in a FPS.
Even the one in Doom 3 with that shitty stock sound effect has more impact.
>>335788642
>I wouldn't listen to Rules of Nature on my Ipod
Why not? Do you have fun?
>>335784813
I swear, he was faster in the E3 demo.
How does this even happen? Why is he only fighting one enemy at a time? Where's the speed? Why is there a slowdown when you're picking weapons from a console weapon wheel? Why the fuck is he music so shit? Why are there mission objectives?
Jesus Christ, this isn't DOOM.
>>335788594
Why are you here if you don't give a shit about games
>>335788693
Because Red Sun
>>335787337
>Disturbed
are you 12?
>can't pick up shards when at full armour
wew lads
Well at least is not as shitty as the multiplayer
Still:
>Revenant
>Takes 4 rockets to the face to die
damn son
>>335788704
Theyre playing on easy mode
>>335788663
They're airsoft guns. Can't you see the scary enemies are actually pinatas? In this game you're a 10 year old in Halloween.
>>335786110
It's easier to setup ; )
pretty much quoted like that
>>335788717
>not The Only Think I Know For Real
>>335784813
Who the fuck came up with the idea of audio logs for the demons in hell!
>>335788773
>They're airsoft guns. Can't you see the scary enemies are actually pinatas? In this game you're a 10 year old in Halloween.
Honestly from everything we've seen so far I would no be at all surprised if that turned out to be the "twist" of the campaign. This game looks like what a current 13 year old thinks Doom is.
>>335788768
That only answers one of his questions at most.
>>335784813
Looks like it could be decent fun, certainly looks better than the new wolfenstein game
>>335788864
TNO was fucking excellent you nerd
>>335784813
With consoles involved theres no way in hell this game would have ended anyway like the original doom.
>>335788836
The rest are kinda garbage
>>335788864
The New Order and The Old Blood were both fantastic. They're examples of how you do an old series justice in the modern gaming industry.
>>335788901
Boring enemy and weapon variety, only memorable level was the space one
It was ok but certainly not excellent
>finishers
>checkpoints
>objective markers
>those fucking retarded weapon models that take up the entire screen
>character is taking a leisurely jog through hell
>enemies do fucking nothing half the time
>it takes the player rubbing up against a mancubus to even come close to dying
it's like they tried to merge a whole bunch of doom mods with halo and failed at that
i know, >brutal doom, but even brutal doom's executions and dismemberment feels more satisfying than whatever jank that was.
also why the fuck objective markers
first off it's doom - do you even need distinct objectives? second, remember how quake 2 had objectives, but left you to find that shit on your own?
what the fuck happened.
>>335786584
>Bet the higher difficulties aren't actually harder either just crank up those HP numbers even more.
it's bethesda so this is pretty much guaranteed
>>335788901
TNO is a fucking shit, kys.
>>335785271
I agree wholeheartedly with your statement but Hurt Me Plenty is the canon difficulty.
Everyone keeps calling it Halo but it seriously reminds me of Borderlands.
>>335789067
Memes included
>>335788987
>>335789041
>>335788864
how to have a shitty opinion: the post
>>335789067
Halo has a hell of a lot more going for it than this
>>335784813
I want to like this game, but Bethesda is making it hard. The evironments look cool, but the gameplay is slower than doom 3. Where as doom 3 had a change of ideas to be more horror based with less demons to fight, this has the speed of 3 with the same amount of enemies as the originals.
Why.
>>335789041
Congrats on having no taste, I guess.
>load from checkpoint
This game has quicksave, right?
>>335788901
>>335788973
No it was average at best, it had a bunch of problems all all the modern bullshit attached that kept it from being good
if it was just shooting nazis the whole time instead of pointless exposition and cutscenes (that were well done at least) it would have been much better
beat it twice on uber btw
>>335789098
feel free to make an argument
I did not play Doom 1 and 2 all that much, but I thought the appeal was hordes of demons coming at you. In contrast, this video showed few enemies. In fact, I remember Halo having more enemies that what was showed on the video.
Why does the Hell Knight look like a zombie from Half-Life 2?
The slow shitty console gameplay, the achievement popups, the quest markers, the terrible visual design, the constant checkpoints, ..
I was one of those "maybe the SP will be good" retards but wow this is worse then I ever imagined. Literally your typical banal console FPS shit für 12 years olds, marketed as "old school". Pathetic.
I thought it would be impossible but modern developers somehow managed to top the Fallout franchise raping.
>>335789065
UV is the only way to play since it has the max monster count
>>335789210
Exploration is more appealing than shooting shit. If you want to shoot shit serious sam or painkiller is for you
I am going to buy this Doom just like I did with 1, 2, ultimate, and 3.
And I will enjoy it.
That upsets you doesn't it?
>>335789295
>buy
why
the multiplayer looks like a real clusterfuck
>>335789295
It mostly just makes me believe you're retarded.
>>335789295
Ignorance is bliss.
>>335789271
Alright, but wasn't Doom 1 and 2 about shooting hordes of demons (shooting shit) and not exploring?
>>335789271
Even Sam had exploration
It's like they just took the name Doom so it would sell, there's literally no Doom in that video
>>335789295
>enjoy it
good luck with that
>>335789295
That's cool, I hope you do end up having a good time with it. I wish it looked like something I want to play, but for me it just doesn't look or feel like Doom, so I'm gonna pass.
>>335789295
Mind telling me why you will enjoy it?
It's not hard Bethesda.
Even an old Doom 3 mod did it better than you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aguUHuzar1I
>>335784813
>impact compensation
>impact compensation
>impact compensation
This message serves no purpose. This is the absolute worst part of an already fucked up HUD.
>>335789398
Doom and to an even greater extent Doom 2 were the games that basically pioneered labyrinthine map design in first-person games. Some Doom 2 maps are still very easy for me to get lost in, despite having played them dozens of times over the last 20 years.
>reticle totally off target when firing rockets
>they hit anyway
>>335784813
I wouldn't even be that mad that they turned this into generic modern shooter if the amount of enemies in single "arena" was decent. There is around 5/6 enemies per wave, which is a joke when compared to things like Serious Sam or Painkiller.
>>335789173
Can't bind that to a hotkey on a controller :^)
>>335789398
>wasn't
you can go and play the games right now, you know
>>335789457
>This message serves no purpose
I can almost guarantee it's to let you know you have some upgrade that reduces or eliminates fall damage.
>>335789404
Barely any compared to doom or games like heretic, hexen, shadow warrior etc
SS and painkiller are just completely different type of games
>>335784813
Gameplay-wise looks like an average early 00's pre-HL2 shooter. It's alright, I've missed those.
>>335789560
why would anyone play old games? They're old and shitty.
>>335789651
Doom is probably the most accessible old game there is
>>335789253
I never once disagreed with that statement. Infact I personally get bored on lower difficulties.
However, John Romero built his levels around Hurt Me Plenty though. That is the canon difficulty.
Headcanon is the word you're looking for. In which case I share the exact same thoughts.
>>335784813
This actually looks like shit for real.
>>335789116
>the same amount of enemies as the originals.
No
Just no
>>335789492
>Doom and to an even greater extent Doom 2 were the games that basically pioneered labyrinthine map design in first-person games
What? That's not remotely true even for first-person real-time games. Dungeon Crawlers existed long before Doom. Dungeon Master cam out 5 years before.
And Wizardry came out over 10 years before.
There are probably a hundred earlier examples.
>>335789435
I can kill demons with a shotgun.
>>335789116
>the gameplay is slower than doom 3
But that's fucking wrong. I love Doom 3 but that game is slow as shit, have you even played it?
>>335789702
no the levels were tested on UV from pistol start
>>335784813
>ps4 footage
i'll wait for pc
>>335784813
what are the monsters shitting out when they die? health?
Looks worse than Rage.
>>335789453
You are completely deluded beyond saving if this honestly seems better to you than the new Doom. I'm actually amazed you found something worse than what Bethesda could shit out.
>>335785180
>1996+20
>still expecting average players are this autistic
hope your supa-mouse and mechanic keyboard are fine
>>335789801
what do dungeon crawlers have to do with FPS
>>335789295
No, I don't really bother at all to be honest, unlike many of the neet losers out here who just love to gawk and moan over others bank account.
Although, I am wondering how big of an impact will SnapMap have on the long run, over community mods....that was my only expectation for it to be honest, a good set of mod tools.
it looks fucking great and its mothercucking doom
how are people not hyped? i mean its DOOOM
>>335788774
collectible icon looks like some funkopop trash, jesus christ
Is the level design going to be any good?
>>335789950
Hello Bethesda shill, how's that infighting mechanic coming along... oh wait.
>>335790007
>Perform a "Death from Above" Glory Kill on a Baron of Hell (attack from above).
>>335789987
Nothing but that guy mentioned "first-person games" in general.
>>335790104
Probably the same shit as in TNO, you can just ignore it
>>335784813
Looks great. Look forward to playing it.
>that awful FOV
>that shitty hud
>that boring music
>that colorless world
>everything glows, enemies glow, pickups glow
>"quest" marker
>>335789840
Pistol start is correct. Ultra-Violence is incorrect. The only difficulty not tested was nightmare.
The levels were not designed around Ultra-Violence and you are wrong for stating such a silly and factually incorrect thing. I am no longer responding to you as you are being a tryhard faggot.
>>335789892
Also ammo
>>335790305
Don't ever respond to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>335789993
Because it's SLOOOOW.
SP, whatever.
MP - un-fucking-acceptable.
Look I'm not even mad that casual plebs can't play the fast game and that Beth might make the slow game standard, but no modifier for a faster movement speed and firing rate (per server) is simply unacceptable.
UT4 is FREE, FUCKING FREE, not even 'f2p' shit it's open sores...
It has modifiers, like every UT ever.
i know modifiers waren't a DOOM thing, but considering the low speed, they could have given us the option.
2/10 no buy as it is.
Beth if your reading, add modifiers/mutators, game would be 8/10 MP GOTY if you did.
>>335790053
I just insulted Bethesda and this shit excuse for a Doom installment that I won't be buying and you somehow think I'm shilling.
Completely deluded beyond saving is right then.
>>335790280
>colorless world
but the environment is red, grey, and green. That's hardly colorless.
>>335790387
no one gives a shit about multiplayer, arena shooters are dead go jack off to ut4
>>335790393
Yeah I also hate this new game and I think Doom 3 was worse so I'll let them know that by pre-ordering this new game.
That'll show them how us true Doom gamers like our doomy doom.
>>335784813
This just looks wrong for some reason. The level design looks fine imo, it needed to be a little more open compared to Doom 3.
But that speed just isn't made for it. Fuck, I think Doom 3 felt faster paced, but I could be wrong.
>>335784975
>It tries to appeal everyone and fails at everything
Yeah I agree with this. Can't wait to see saying "Blame nostalgiafags :^)"
But I guess we'll see when it comes out.
Now I feel like playing Doom 3 again.
>>335790280
Everything you said is right but the colorless world thing. Maybe you're colorblind.
>>335784813
You know what my biggest problem is with this game? The title, they have the audacity to just call it Doom with nothing attached to it. If they would call it Doom 4 instead I would be a bit more forgiving but calling it "Doom" just comes off as arrogant to me, it's like they have no respect for the original title and care more about marketing their shit game.
>>335786024
This guy gets it
>>335790503
You need help.
>>335790513
Doom 3 was actually slow as fuck, even if you sped up the player movement in those "classic doom 3" mods you can tell the game was designed around moving very slowly
>>335790484
Why are you even in this thread then?
>that disgusting chugu chugu chugu music
Why not just hire NIN or Sepultura or something to make some oldschool Doom sounding riffs? Imagine slaying demons while this plays on the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Z6H6B6vno
>>335790601
Yes, do you happen to know where I can buy the cyberdemon plushie?
I need to for my collectors' game of the year edition (limited).
That's after placing my pre-order for this glorious return to oldschool doom though :)
>>335790778
this thread is about the singleplayer you fucking retard
>>335790546
Have you paid any attention to video games lately? It's not exactly a new trend to name a new game in a dead series just "game name" without the number.
wow that game really looks bad
>>335784813
i dont know why, but to me it looks floaty
walk is slow as fuck
everything goes in some kind of slomo
and the level design looks like modern almost on rails type
just move forward
>>335790893
Not just games, films as well. People are jaded by sequels and remakes so now is the age of the "soft reboot".
>>335790982
>i dont know why, but to me it looks floaty
That's console FPS for you.
>>335790982
>the level design looks like modern almost on rails type
Are you fucking blind the level design is literally the only redeeming quality
>>335784813
>yfw automap
Everything was okay but, automap. Really?
>>335789514
>"Rockets have no splash damage!"
>>335791134
are you complaining about a map? in doom?
>>335791349
map is okay, automap is shit
>>335786687
it's even worse, since the Chainsaw literally 1-hit kills ANYTHING, and makes it explode into golden loot of ammo and HP, fully filling your pockets.
I watched the stream yesterday, and the guy literally instantly cut up Baron of hell with it.
Also they made it painfully clear that the game's next to impossible to play without using the level-up and Perk upgrades. The game's literally a fucking RPG, where grinding for upgrade points is more important than skill and good map design.
>>335791518
doom always had an automap you stupid shit
>>335791518
What? Automap is when you press a key and it brings up a map. Usually the tab key in games.
>>335791580
They were playing on the easiest difficulty
Level ups and perks are fine, see shadow warrior
You cant fucking grind, this isn't an mmo enemies dont respawn
>>335784975
>The music is wubwub cancer
Wut, it sounds like some type of industrial metal
>>335791819
>see shadow warrior
Pfffft
>>335784813
I'm one of those weirdos who preferred the slower paced horror atmosphere of Doom 3. It's kind of a shame that they went away from that.
>>335792329
NO IT WASN'T LIKE THE FIRST DOOM SO IT'S BAD
>>335792329
D44M does look slow paced and horrible though.
Doom 3 is better than half life 2
>>335789993
Because it's NOT Doom you dummy mcdumbface.
>>335786024
Yeah it doesn't really look like Doom at all. They could call this game something else and it would be an ok shooter that people forget about after a week, but there's nothing here to warrant the name Doom. You don't ride the coattails of an original classic and then come out with something like this. Call the game Sulphur or something, it seems to be everywhere in that stinky dungeon
>>335792584
What would make it look like doom to you retards? 2D sprites? The original games are over 20 years old, how the fuck are you gonna make something that looks like it
Also this game looks more like "doom" than doom 3 ever did
>>335786082
Complaints about speed refer to the movement speed. It looks like he's casually walking around compared to how you ski around in Doom
>>335786082
It's not fast, it just has a console FOV that makes you feel like things are happening quickly because you can't see shit. As a result enemies appear like they are on your shit whereas in old doom you'd see most of your enemiesexcept when they'd be hidden behind walls to fuck your ass.
>>335785418
>not forced to do it
>harder difficulties are probably designed around using the takedown mechanic all the time
can anyone post the doom modding guide
>>335792680
Fast movement, weapons with strength, lots of enemies on screen and no takedowns.
>>335792584
>the level design is overly brown and it sucks
So it's like Doom II?
>>335792680
Everyone else seems like happy with the new Doom except /v/. You're asking the wrong questions.
Only modding seems to be liked here so I propose this. Get the best modders on /v/, use a engine like Unreal Engine 4 or something and make a game out it. /tg/ made Chapter Master through modding and they liked that so I'm sure /v/ can make a game that they like.
>>335792809
>probably
>>335790998
>films
There's already a game called "Doom" though. Rambo was able to do it because there was technically no movie called just "Rambo".
They should have called it The Doom.
>>335792680
Fast paced level based gameplay, satisfying weapons, good level design, enemies that don't get lost if you're not standing still in front of them, more than two enemies on the screen simultaneously
>>335792680
Have you seen the System Shock remake? That game is over 20 years old too, but the environments still resemble the old game. Lighting is a bit over the top though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPLF9Ad9ns
>>335793050
>everyone else likes it
even reddit thinks it's shit
>>335793117
You know there are dozens upon dozens of movies with identical names right?
>>335793180
It's a shame it has to be on Unity though. Probably run like shit unless you have the highest specs.
>>335786993
Makes sense, dev team is the same that made one of the Halo games. I think Reach?
>>335793415
certain affinity did the multiplayer. singleplayer is by id.
Why the fuck do they do this
>>335793050
>Let the modders fix it
Hello, Todd
>>335784813
Music is shit and it's slow and boring. Shotgun is nice at least.
>>335793375
>unity is bad meeme
Is it still 2011
>>335788414
I thought the exact same thing
>>335793484
Blurry screen
So real
who else gonna pirate on launch, cry at how bad it is and rip n tear to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9DxoRvTik ?
>>335793484
Feedback to the player that they've been hit.
>>335793556
i'm hungry now
>>335788507
Jesus christ
>>335784813
Slow, clunky, boring.
Looks like UT3, visually.
Might be worth a try when it reaches the $5-mark in a year.
>>335793760
That could be done without obstructing the player's vision
>>335793839
The blur is exclusive to cacodemon's attacks.
>>335785180
It's a shit game anyway
>>335793243
No, they do not.
>>335793489
No, the modders do not fix it, they make it. People here hate modern games and do not trust developers. How else would you make a game for /v/?
>>335784813
>Thoughts?
consolized garbage
>>335789116
>with the same amount of enemies as the originals.
ngga what the fuck are you smoking, if it had the same amount of enemies as the originals, the level in the video would be filled to the brim, instead of like 5 cacodemons in all the video, there should be 20.
the lost souls would be like another 20 as well
the imps and pinkies should have been the triple of those
it had the right amount of barons of hell and mancubus though i'll give you that
>>335784975
I really don't think you know what wubwub music is do you?
>>335791941
they're too young to know what you're saying
I'm not liking the wave-based gameplay that they have going here.The Pinkies are cute.
>>335793821
No, it won't. Even if you got it for free, you'd be wasting your time with it.
>>335794136
You seem to be confusing one of your slaughter WADs with the actual games. In the originals, meaning ultimate doom and doom 2, apart from select few levels in doom 2 monsters are used very sparingly.
>>335784813
>Ever played DOOM?
>HAHA DUDE I LOVE DOOM THAT GAMES AWESOME
>What episode is your favourite?
>WHAT IS THERE LIKE A TV SHOW OR SOMETHING IS THERE DLC RELEASED ALREADY?
>your faces when
>>335784813
I'm not trying to meme but....
Preorder cancelled
Is it denuvo?
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/04/28/huge-doom-easter-egg-revealed
Nice
>>335785102
>wow its fucking nothing
>>335784813
For SP they should've just went with horror Doom 3 style. This cheap gallery shooter looks like crap.
lol at the devs trying to save their shit of a game. Go back to the drawing board you guys. Shilling your game here won't do you any good. That only works in neogaf and reddit.
>>335785180
>expecting a product that cost millions of dollars to be marketed towards your autist niche
Here's another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsWaTIlNGlw
>>335794538
>the fucking IGN guy doesn't even recognize what map that was
Damn it, it's one of the earliest maps too.
>>335794538
That part of e1m2 is supposed to be dark
Great job you fucking hacks
>>335794538
Tell me what it is.
I am not watching this faggot shill Taco Bell.
>>335794904
Part of E1M2
Like those sections of Wolfenstein TNO
Though it looks like shit.
>>335791941
Exactly, garbage.
>character can look up and down
What the FUCK were they thinking? DOOM mechanics are NOT supposed to be modern!!??
>>335794904
He pulled a switch in one of the early maps and it opened a secret door to a section of Nuclear Plant from Doom 1. It's not a neo id game without old id callback secrets.
>>335794538
so if theres one of these in every level and you can go back to play them from the menu does that mean doom 4 itself has 30+ levels?
>>335794957
What does it have to do with wubs though
>>335794538
the sector lighting is completely gone
good job ID keep it up!
I bet half of you faggots weren't even alive when Doom and Doom 2 came out. As someone who played those games when they were brand new, I think D44M looks fun as fuck. You're all bitching about "muh authentic Doom experience," but you don't even know what that is.
Faggots.
>>335784813
The beta was fucking terrible, so I don't really give a shite about the game tbqh.
Why won't the original developers just make the DOOM reboot?
>>335793596
It represents brief shock. Have you never been hit before? Shit gets unfocused for a split second
>>335794995
This is how I see %90 of people shitting on this game.
It's never a valid reason like how Bethesda is trying to cash in on a name or the fact that if they lied about multiplayer, then they're lying about single player.
>>335795030
>so if theres one of these in every level and you can go back to play them from the menu
Oh so I can finally play a good game!
>>335795143
>the outsourced mp was terrible
>so i wont give a shit about the main focus of the game
If it's any consolation, I've only played the first Doom a year ago and this one looks like complete shit. No nostalgia factor for me.
Looks like they're aiming for the LCD on this one.
>>335795143
I remain confused why people were comparing the MP to the SP
>>335795161
they parted ways and move on
>>335794538
Didn't even find a single secret in that part of E1M2, and there's three of them.
>>335795161
Cause Romero's working on Blackroom.
>>335788507
Who cares? Not using them is literally no different than them not existing. And lots of non autists enjoy different weapon perks to keep gameplay fresh
>>335794953
>>335795013
Thanks
>>335795120
>you have to play the games when they're new in order to have an opinion
I was born in 96 and have played every single Doom (albeit I started with 64 when I was younger). It's sad, just judging by your taste I can tell I've already played a ton more games than you ever have.
>>335795161
They are it's called Blackroom.
>>335788568
I'd rather it have been like doom 3 as well. Most people don't want to play genres with 20 years of evolving mechanics stripped away
>>335795224
>>335795390
What is that?
>>335789429
>it doesn't look exactly like a game from 20 years okay so it must be bad
I swear doomfaggots just can't stop outing themselves as the absolute worst
>>335795503
John Romero's new old-school style shooter idea pitch. He recently made some new levels for Doom to show what the levels would be like.
>>335795503
Latest scam from the original 'idea guy'
How is it that the original Doom hellscapes of low-res textures and hard angles are more hellish than the environment in the video?
Granted it's only a small sample but I hope they used the license to be unashamedly edgy and grotesque in a more creative way than 'stone castle with pools of gore'.
>>335795120
I was in my twenties when Doom came out, you snotnosed little nugamer.
NuDoom is an abomination and is not in any way Doom.
>>335795390
>>335795224
There's no way it's getting funded, it's slowed to a crawl. First day it got 100k, then it's gotten 10k per day after that. Unless they'll just throw in the remaining amount themselves at the end, to get the funding from investors
>>335784813
Still looks too slow for doom. Not enough enemies on screen at once either. Felt like it was, "shoot the demon. Now it's dead. Move to next area. Repeat.". Very uninspired. I'll likely still play it and try itread: piratebut I don't think it'll be great. Good at best, and that's being hopeful.
>>335795161
Because we don't another shitty game.
>>335785102
Doom had stairs in spades. But unfortunately the rest of your criticisms are valid.
>>335795793
Even if it doesn't get fully funded, he'll find some way to get it made. John seems pretty pumped.
>>335795275
If a mechanic like that is in the game, then the game is designed with that mechanic in mind.
The balance is built around having that mechanic, and so are the enemies.
It's like telling someone to turn off the quest markers in Skyrim if he doesn't like them. Sure, alright, but there are no quest descriptions or a journal in the game, so good fucking luck playing through the game without quest markers.
You can't just tell people to ignore a mechanic they don't like, it's not how video games are designed.
>>335795778
>I was in my twenties when Doom came out
>30+ years old
>still on /v/
Kill yourself loser
>>335795793
SO, what people really want, is the new DOOM then.
>>335788261
That sounds like pretty derivative stuff honestly, the first track while using some interesting bits wasn't much more interesting to listen to than Blue Monday. The second one, well, Fuck I might as well go listen to Television. However, I admittedly might not be listening hard enough and I could just be being awkward. Each to their own I guess. This post is just rambling nonsense, ignore me anon.
>>335795991
>>30+ years old
Try 45
>>335795991
Where else are you supposed to discuss video games. The internet is shit, imageboards are the least shit out of the selection
>>335795163
I thought it was the opposite. that your vision would sharpen for a split second because of the adrenaline
Just played Doom 2 again for the sake of putting a fresher image of the game in my mind, and looking at the videos now it's ridiculous how much slower this new game is.
oh hey, the new destiny expansion, neat
Darksiders 2: FPS edition.
>>335795793
>It won't get made
>Romero name beyond any possible redemption ever
>new DOOM will turn a profit
>things continue the same
>>335796001
Romero made the mistake of asking for money with nothing to show. Watching his stream showed that they haven't even started doing anything yet.
Remaking 2 Doom levels to show that he can still do things was a good idea but ultimately not enough.He should have remade the entire shareware episode. I'd pay for that.
>>335796172
You're not supposed to. You're supposed to spend time with your children and wife not on the internet.
And don't even start with "normies reeee" if you're 40 years old and still not married it's bad no matter how you look at it.
>>335796295
>i'd pay for some washed-up hack to make doom levels
>when there are tons of free doom levels made by people more competent than him by his own admission
>>335796295
So did the guy making Bloodstained that castlevania spiritual successor.
And that's doing really well right now.
>>335796339
>you can no longer use the internet when you have a family
Why aren't you spending time with your parents and girlfriend right now? I'm not him anyway, I'm 25.
>>335794605
>my reaction with DOOM 4
>>335796339
I'm not that guy, but James May isn't married and is the coolest fucking guy ever.
Don't assume that people who aren't married are always losers.
>>335796428
I'd pay for quality wads, just in general. Trust me anon, I've got through so many shit ones it's silly.
I'm working through Going Down at the moment. It'spretty good.
Anyone really turned off by how the movement is animated?
You had that nice little bob on the gun while moving in doom but here it seems like you're just a sliding camera, there doesn't seem to be any bob or camera movement while walking.
>>335796592
>I'm working through Going Down at the moment
Same
It's quite good
>>335796484
Both Bloodstained andMN9had complete test footage before their Kickstarters ended.
They haven't even started doing anything for Blackroom.
>>335794847
propably a scripted question for the casuals like usually in the streams some guy just asks what is what even when he knows to lead the question
but still yeah and I hate that. it's like they memorised the things just night before like a test and don't actually know what they are talking about
>>335796339
>if you're 40 years old and still not married it's bad no matter how you look at it.
Maybe if you're a woman and your eggs are running out. Men don't have such a time limit, it isn't fair but it's also the truth when it comes to biology.
>>335796592
Doom 1 wads have also always been quite rare. Most wads being made are for Doom 2.
>>335796891
because who the fuck would made doom 1 wads when 2 simply has more content
WELCOME TO TEH INTERWEBZ DOOMGUY
I'M HERE TO GUIDE YOU
>>335794538
>BIG SECRETS
>SO LET US SHOW YOU
What's the fucking point of a secret if you're going to tell everyone the gimmick.
>>335795275
You're really dumb aren't you.
>>335797147
casuals
also nostagia bait
>RPG progression in singleplayer campaign
wow I sure do love fucking XP and unlocks in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME
even mirrors edge 2 is getting this shit, what the fuck?
>>335790893
>it's okay because all the cool kids are doing it!
No, it is not okay. Calling it just 'Doom' is an insult.
>>335797332
what the fuck?
>>335797395
You might just be a bit autistic. I doubt you even play doom much.
>>335797332
"level up and progression" is something for casual/actual gamers get addicted thinking that adds value to complete the game
Can we finally admit all of modern gaming is shit now and just let gaming die?
Please?
>>335792584
Let me put things clear and straight for you
D44M is as much Doom as dragon ball evolution is dragon ball
>>335797580
Normies will keep modern vidya alive for decades
>>335795491
>praises the introduction of an antagonist
Did this idiot not play Doom 3?
>>335796295
>Remaking 2 Doom levels
I only played e1m8b.wad. What was the second one?
>>335797949
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0kw4fqg1tuxpnxx/e1m4b.zip
>>335793484
That's why you don't get hit by caco blasts
The cards from GameStop mention that their projectiles can disorient you
>>335797949
E1M4b.
It was OK. E1M8b was better.
>>335797948
Doom 3 gets conveniently ignored by everyone so they can shit on Doom 4 for not being "Doom"
>>335797461
>generic 4chan insult
>baseless acusation
What are you trying to accomplish with such a worthless post?
>ever getting excited about videogames in this day and age
what are you doing
>>335798289
>game name is an insult
it might be a generic 4chan response but it applies in this case
>>335798052
>>335798092
Cheers bruvs.
>>335784813
>Slow
>Music is terrible
>Challenges and codex entries
>Hell looks dull and boring
>Melee finishers
And it even has the Hell Knights from DOOM 3 to remind you of that piece of shit as well.
>>335798348
>comparing 64 levels across 2 games to a 15 minute demo
wew lads
>>335786327
>fallout 3
ahahah Doomed from the start
>>335798502
>he took the bait
Really anon?
>>335786327
Well shit
>>335798502
>15 minute
those are official screenshots retard
did you not notice the lack of HUD?
>>335784813
slooooooooow
>>335797613
Would Doom 3 be more than DOOM?
>>335798205
Video does not exist
>>335791819
>They were playing on the easiest difficulty
no, they weren't.
It was on Hurt Me Plenty.
I wonder how the game will look like with everything turned off
>>335798917
Missed an 8 while copying it from another thread, hue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kub5vOaT0V8
>>335791819
>Level ups and perks are fine, see shadow warrior
I fucking HATED Shadow Warrior 2013, one of the many reasons BEING that fucking retarded leveling system. Seriously, just stop putting that shit into shooters!
>>335798985
I thought there was an option to turn off glory kills and not just their highlight? Have I been misled?
>>335798985
much better, but will be almost unplayable.
Same thing happened already with Dishonored, SH:Downpour, and many others. Devs just can't make a game without flashing objects and constantly popping up hints anymore.
>>335799032
Shadow warrior's level system was optional though. You could complete the game without using it outside of that katana thing to destroy objects. Genuine autism or retardation?
>>335798985
It'll still look awful
>>335799110
Yes. The devs pretty much stated in the stream that the glory-kills are your main source of supplies. GL trying to survive through the game without it.
D44M literally is a cinematic melee-combat FP-RPG now.
>>335799032
I honestly wouldn't have minded it that much if the MENU WASNT SO FUCKING SLOW
>>335799110
No, Glory Kills are a crucial gameplay element.
They give you a few invincibility frames so it's important to use them in the hard difficulties.
>>335799110
There probably is an option for that, not all options are in the picture
But I think you can just ignore the glory kills and not do them
>>335784813
It looks sick. Can't wait to buy it.
>>335799139
>You could complete the game without using it
>outside of that katana thing to destroy objects
way to contradict your entire statement in a same sentence.
SW2013 was just shit game all around, and D44M looks and sounds way too much like it to be any good. Is it really so hard to make the player have 1993 level speed, ammo cap and damage right off the bat, and design the game so that you do NOT need to have tons of handholding shit on your screen 24/7?
>>335799132
Yeah that's a shame. I remember when I started playing Oblivion, I took some quest but then I had no idea what to do because there was no journal entry or anything, the guy didn't tell me a thing either. Then I realised there's a red marker on the compass and I just need to walk there, it was pretty lame
If you thought Doom 3 took the series in a bad direction, you're getting exactly what you want out of Doom 4.
Too bad Doom 3 was the greatest horror FPS game of all time, and Doom 4 is just some generic ass space shooter with a homosexual fad mod forced into the core gameplay.
>>335799259
>But I think you can just ignore the glory kills and not do them
enjoy running out of ammo, HP and armor.
>>335799139
And miss out on every ability in the game and weapons that aren't shit.
>>335799025
Why is Christoper Walker commenting the video
>>335799360
The katana powerup was obtained within 10 minutes and served as a tutorial explaining the leveling system. You can easily ignore the the system after it has been explained to you, it's not a contradiction. Od on your autism pills.
>>335799427
I will
casul
I can stand a lot of stupid shit but what I can't forgive is they made the rocket launcher as bad as the rest of the weapons. I mean what's the fucking point?
>>335799427
There are hp, ammo and armour pickups in the level though, I dont need some shitty system designed to help casuals
>>335786442
You can't treat an artistic medium as a business, it doesn't work with the same rules.
That's why Capcom loose money with RE6.
They tought that they could please casual fags and old fags, and what they did was a half assed product that didn't give the sensations of a horror game.
Looks good. Not $60 good, not really the Doom 4 I wanted, but I'll definitely play this at some point. I'll pirate if it can be cracked.
>>335799425
>If you thought Doom 3 took the series in a bad direction, you're getting exactly what you want out of Doom 4.
Yeah, no I am NOT.
D4 looks liketally Brutal Doom 3.5. As in slightly polished shit, with piss poured on top, released on consoles.
>Too bad Doom 3 was the greatest horror FPS game of all time
You really need to play more games.
Even some HL1 horror mods beat the shit out of D3.
If I buy Ultimate Doom on Gog am I supporting bethesda?
>>335799670
It definitely has the allure of a weekend rental game.
>>335799425
It looks like DOOM 3 with the lights on, pal.
>>335799360
The modern 12 year old can't handle that.
>>335799737
You can download the doom wads from anywhere, it's literally just a single 10mb file
>>335799425
I actually liked Doom 3 for what it was.
It had stunning graphics and pretty good art direction.
Was it a bad doom game? probably. Was it a bad game? Not at all.
This D44M tries so hard to be "DOOD LOOK DAEMONS AND BRUTALITY RIP AND TEAR" to the point where you don't know if you're actually playing a sequel or a parody.
Plus it shits on the legacy by just using the name DOOM unumbered.
>>335784813
>this super casual console shit
>>335799812
Oh alright thanks
- This doesn't look like it plays like Doom.
- Some good weapon sounds.
- Graphics are fine.
- Doesn't look like the monsters are posing a threat to the player.
- Executions are sometimes so close even if I wanted to do them I couldn't tell what's going on.
- I like the idea of bad guys executing YOU if you die.
Overall: It's still too slow for Doom, the executions seem pointless, the monsters don't pose much of a threat. I suppose I like the idea of having lots of weapons to choose from in a fight. And a weapon wheel with a slowdown might be the best bet if you're a console pleb since you don't have as many keys handily available compared to a keyboard. Still, though, the way i envision a Doom game--you shouldn't get to take a breather while you casually go through your weapon inventory. I'd probably remove the slowdown and narrow down the weapons to only the most essential.
>>335799706
HL1 Horrormods
You're fucking stupid.
>>335800071
>the monsters don't pose much of a threat
the game has quite a few difficulty levels above what the guy is playing at
>>335795384
>I can tell I've already played a ton more games than you have
implying this is something to be proud of
>>335784813
Honestly? Almost nothing about that looks good in any way to me. Enemy and level design are bad. Game is slow. Weapons don't look good and seem unsatisfying - wtf @ the plasma rifle in particular. Melee kills are a fucking drag. Not enough enemies on screen at once.
And I actually think it looks too cartoonish. I would've expected something more edgy from a new Doom. It's not disturbing enough. They don't have the balls anymore to make it fucked up it seems.
So its basically a faster, survival horror-free version of 3.
I am very okay with this.
>>335784813
Looks better than 3 at least.
>>335800437
I agree
>>335797147
you spoiled it for yourself idiot IT EVEN SAID SPOILER ALERT AT THE BEGINNING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I think I'm done with videogames.
>>335800321
How is it anything like 3?
>>335800226
>all of which are problably just more damage and more hp!!
>>335800558
Level design, mainly.
And no auto aim. And the weapons look sorta similar.
>>335800697
>probably
>>335800820
Doom 3 was one single fucking corridor. Even the hell levels were linear. Doom 4 levels look more like doom 2's levels if anything.
>>335800547
I know you're joking around but the very idea of saying "there are secrets :^)" is inherently spoilery, it's a Doom game, there are always secrect and it should be assumed that there are.
The fact that they need to tell people that there are shows the philosophy that went into this game.
>>335800976
It says easter egg in the title, not secret.
>>335784813
Why do demons have cybernetic implants in hell?
>>335784813
holy shit this game lacks oomph
>>335800962
3 had a mix of corridors and open rooms. The open areas in this felt very 3-ish. Not so much 3's Hell levels (now THOSE were corridors) but quite a few UAC levels.
>>335801074
Are easter eggs not secrets anymore?
>>335801083
your grandpa was right, computers are the devil
>>335784813
>characters are literally walking
>need 3 weapons to kill one of the first ennemies
>screen blur as if you had an orgasm with each hit
>slower
>QTE kills
>bland outdated ost
>explosions have less punch than a diet coke
>fuck my UI up
>slow-mo weapon selection
>no shadows
>70 fov
>no fall acceleration, you're floating
even Fallout 4 had more dynamic gunfights, what the hell is this shit
>>335801083
Because in this dimension that the Doomguy has fallen into, the UAC is a cult that experiments on and weaponizes demons. Something something Argent Energy is what we got out of the beta files that for some reason had the SP voice over files.
It looks and sounds like a hollywood "blockbuster" movie trailer.
>>335793556
burned meat is the principal cause of colon cancer
>>335794889
>>335795082
The latest idtech engines can't handle Doom 1's lighting.
>>335801747
Rage did this throwback thing too? Jesus
Get to play and unlock old doom maps confirmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hY3mVw2p3E
>>335802325
This should be interesting...
>>335802325
And.. I might actually be sold.
>>335802325
How many maps? Said theres only one secret per level and there probably isnt dozens of levels in doom 4
>>335801747
oh god my childhood.
>>335793117
The Jungle Book literally just came out
>>335784813
It's faster than Doom 3 but it's still a bit slow, need amping up to 1.5x
Bosses look like bullet sponges though which can't even be rectified with speed.
Remove the drops, improve the speed a bit and a new enemies then we are game.
If not this then make it extremely moddable at least.
>>335798502
A single enemy in doom 1 had more colors than those 15 minute demos
>>335789453
that looks like absolute garbage, you're delusional if you think that was a good idea.
please leave your opinions at the door.
>>335804528
>Bosses look like bullet sponges
>t. cyberdemon that takes 50+ rockets to kill
>>335795384
>I was born in 96
Buddy that ain't very old
>>335804774
Yeah, this new game is 100000x times better
>>335786274
>Imp lying
>>335805136
It unironically is. Having played those doom 3 mods they are absolute shit.
>>335804528
The new enemies still suck.
http://vectorpoem.com/news/?p=74
>>335789453
I'd play this.
>>335805215
Yeah, Doom 3 nver had good mods.
This new game will have snapmap and amazing community driven levels :)
>>335805136
have you heard me say that? you'll speak when spoken to, boy.
>>335805264
Then play it. Nothing's stopping you except the fact that it's fucking bad.
>only "modding" is with snapmap which only has 4 players max and a limited number of enemies you can place
>no modding outside of that
>>335805321
Does that mean that you'll pre-order?
>>335805361
Agreeed 200% :)
>>335805462
>>no modding outside of that
What? I'm pretty sure you can create maps for singleplay
The build-your-own-level bullshit seems like a design by committee decision.
>>335805547
There is no mod support.
>>335805547
Sure, if you use SnapMap™, just don't try to recreate nuts.wad
The player looks like a giant damage sponge to compensate because console players can't turn
You know what the worst part of it all is? This fucking game will sell enough that they'll call it a success.
I hope I'm wrong, but look at the division and how that was touted as the second coming of christ.
>>335805480
you have a username, your opinion is worthless
>>335787337
>Disturbed
>>335805818
What username?
We are all anons here who only want to pre-order this amazing game
>>335806178
keep talking, someone will agree with you someday right?
Anyway, installed Brutal Doom. Hear Project Brutality is better? Never played Doom. Best entry point?
