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Dark Souls lore thread?
Dark Souls lore thread!
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Out fucking skilled.
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>>335301576

Can ask it again cause thread dead.

Why when I die i'm still a normal looking niggah and not a ghostly ghoul like in DS1 And DaS1?

Also never played DaS2.
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Someone mentioned you can find some O&S lore in DS3
Anyone know where?
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>>335301576
Where do I get Faraam set and Alvas set in Das 3?
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>>335301719
>DS1 And DaS1?
and Dark Souls 1 and DkS1 and DrkS1?
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>>335301728
>>335301630
>>335301372
>>335301419
>Lord Gwyn's firstborn was a god of war, but his foolishness led to a loss of the annals, and rescinding of his deific status.
Today, even his name is not known.
http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Ring+of+the+Sun%27s+Firstborn
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>>335301719
Possible, I'd even say probable, theory is that a way to break the curse was found before DS 3 and thus Ashen one is not actually affected by the curse that causes others go hollow.
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>>335301758
The armorsets.
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>>335301838
He could do both, the fact that you think one ring outweighs an armorset, a soul, a weapon, and a miracle is rather shocking.
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>>335301838
>Today, even his name is not known.

>boss is literally called Nameless King
nameless
ˈneJmləs/
adjective
1.
having no name or no known name.
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>>335301719
Because you are so shit tier that you don't even hollow and need dark magic to do even that
One of reasons why you can't link fire yourself
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>>335301838
That's why he's the NAMELESS king, because his name was erased from the history. And that's also why ornstein armor is found right after the nameless king fight, because gwyn asked to orstein to search for his lost son, so ornstein found him but lost the battle and end up getting killed.
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>>335301719
Because you're less than a hollow, which is still some sort of worthwhile existence in the lore.
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>A variation of Gywn's leitmotif kicks in in phase two of Nameless King
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>>335301576
Glorious, graceful, rapier master race
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>>335301619
But wasn't the pieces of the abyss the queens?
if i remember correct fucking non of them got their in time to fuck with the king
other then best waifu ofc
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>>335301576
I love Yorshka!
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>>335302050
It says he went with the firstborn.
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Why do some Skeletons in the catacombs get up twice.
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>>335301798
faraam is sold at firelink after a certain point
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>>335301838
>A dragon hunting weapon from the age of the gods. The earliest form of the cross spear, serving as both a sword and a spear.
>Its owner was the Nameless King, a deific hunter of dragons. The swordspear is imbued with lightning, of which he was the heir.
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>>335302050
>>335302017
You missed reason why he was kicked from god family
Totally different from the nameless king one
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>>335302219
Okay anon, you could just say that you're wrong but that's too hard.
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>>335302018
>>335302074

So an ashen one is less then a hollow. Jesus that is crazy. I mean there are fucking prophecy of this nigger killing kings and shit.
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>>335302215
>with lightning, of which he was the heir.
See, firstborn would be heir of sun, not lighting
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>>335302187
I have beaten soul of cinder already but no Faraam
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>>335302219
>his foolishness led to a loss of the annals
???
the reason why he was wiped from history is never stated in DaS1.
Now we know why.
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>>335302219
He's riding a fucking dragon. He betrayed and sided with a dragon, like Seath betrayed and sided with the gods.
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So how the fuck is Andre still alive exactly?
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>>335301576
>Doesn't roll
Get fucked loser
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>>335302349
he isn't.
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>>335302310
Did you beat those three unkindled in the archives? The knight one is the trigger for selling Faraam
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>>335302182
Its a reference to the first and second game where the skeletons would get up after being killed.
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Reminider that the Nameless king isn't so namless when you find the Faraam set

"This set is named after a god of war.

The armor of the Forossa Lion Knights was preserved even after the destruction of their homeland, and is mentioned in numerous legends, alongside the names of those who are said to have gone beyond death."

So his name is Faraam?
Gwyn could have done that better
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>>335301576
You could have dodged away 3+ times while in "stun lock". In fact why the hell did you try attacking three times instead of during that? Were you over 70%?
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>>335302326
>is never stated in DaS1.
>but his foolishness led to a loss of the annals, and rescinding of his deific status.
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>>335302349
The powerful magical force known as fan service
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>>335302427
>implying there was only 1 god of war
>implying that they lived in the same era
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>>335302425
The first time I went to the catacombs I auto assumed that it was a necromancer and couldn't find him.
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>>335301576
>wearing faggy thorn set
>doesn't roll
what
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So, what was the deal with the crab? Just a bug?
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>>335302349
Do you see him in any place that actually exists?
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>>335302297
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/great-lord-greatsword
Greatsword born from the soul of Gwyn,
Lord of Cinder. As bearer of the ultimate
soul, Gwyn wielded the bolts of the sun,
but before linking the fire, divided that
power amongst his children, and set off with
only this great sword as his companion.

Just admit defeat anon.
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>>335302486
>Stated in 1
>I'll use evidence discovered in 3 as a counter-argument
Do you see where you're wrong?
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>>335302486
What was his foolish act then?
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>Old Demon King
Oh boy, Firesage 2.0 here we g-
>He actually used pyromancy
>that cool as fuck design
nice
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>High Lord Wolnir was originally a mortal nobleman who fell into the Abyss. He has spent unknown aeons searching desperately for an escape, driven insane by his fear of the darkness, with only his magic sword and the three glowing bangles he scavenged off some dead clerics to provide him comfort. He barely even acknowledges you during your fight, spending most of his time just trying to crawl out the way you came in. And in the end you don't even kill him. You break his grip and throw him back down the pit to the Abyss after destroying his only sources of light.
;_;
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>>335302591
no its inside the rolling ball
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Why does the dancer boss appears after you kill that old woman? Would make more sense if she appeared before you killed her if they're friends
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>>335302648
He also has the little aspect of only having one eye.
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Why are there so many mimics? So far I've fought like 7 or 8 of them and only found maybe 2 or 3 real chests
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>>335302418
Do I have to go there in ember form?
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>>335302540
Dark Souls 2 implies that they are all the same except known under different names, similar to Zeus/Jupiter and so on.
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Great Lightning Spear:

>Gwyn, the First Lord, slew dragons with his sunlight spear, a tradition upheld by his firstborn and the greatspear he wielded.
>a tradition upheld by his firstborn
>a tradition upheld by his firstborn
>a tradition upheld by his firstborn
>a tradition upheld by his firstborn

GUESS WHAT'S ONE OF THE ATTACKS OF THE NAMELESS KING?
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>>335302673
Good, he was a fuccboi that destroyed the Old Crowns I spent so much time getting.
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>>335302349
Pandering.
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>>335302745
No, they're like the master at nexus shrine. They aren't invaders.
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>>335302412
Cut this shit out

>>335302349
Nigga is dedicated to his purpose. Undead only go hollow and die when they lose purpose.

That's why Andre, fire keeper, and shrine handmaiden all resurrect. Orbeck dies when you buy all his spells and give him all the scrolls, sirris dies if you don't take her as a knight, and anri hollows after killing Aldrich.
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>>335302486
That was literally confirmed to be a mistranslation.

The correct text is
>but his foolishness led to him being deleted from the annals, and rescinding of his deific status

also
>The symbol represents Lord Gwyn's firstborn,
who lost his deity status and was expunged
from the annals. But the old God of War
still watches closely over his warriors.
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>>335302673
Yeah, swinging at you and summoning his bone goonies after you is barely acknowledging.
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>>335302427
It's probably not his real name because DaS2 take place well after 1 but it's as close as we are gonna get
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>>335302761
>have great lightning spear on my character
>mfw I'm the nameless king
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>>335301576
Why did he keep trying to swing
Why didn't he just roll
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>>335302821
He isn't alive retard. Go to the real Firelink Shrine, stop taking the Illusion one as what's really happening.
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>>335302427
Considering the creative egoistic naming convention Nameless king would be named something with Gwyn, probably Gwyn Jr. and that's why he rebelled.
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>>335302606
>bolts of the sun
Sun is not lighting, but whatever
>but before linking the fire, divided that, power amongst his children, and set off with
See, why would he give his power to the firstborn, if he go full retard during war against dragons?
Would make more sense if firstborn fucked up after Gwyn burned himself, and this is how he left ring on the Gwyn grave. If no one already wanted him here, it would be hard for him to come into Anor Londo
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>>335302817
Where are they located?
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>>335302349
The flow of time is distorted, etc, etc.
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>>335302349
What if some things in the cycle stay the same?
Like there will always be a firekeeper and a blacksmith.
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>>335302427
>implying Dark Souls 2 shit matters at all
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>>335303012
Right before the second archives elevator shortcut, iirc. You gotta fight them to get to the roof and the twins.
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>>335301576
Man, this game's PvP is fucked.
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>>335302996
The dark Firelink is in the past. That's why champion gundyr doesn't have the black tentacle shit and his item description says he was defeated and became a sheathe for a coil sword.

Let this dumbass theory die
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>>335302834
Well, in my fight he run faster to the wall when me
He actually behave differently each times, I was summoned on the fight where he called army of skeletons, while in my it never happened
Same with his sword, he used it in my almost from the start, butI saw fights were he never even takes it
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>>335302180
He left after.

>In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of their nameless king

There's another item which I can't remember that says gwyn sent him to search his firstborn.
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>>335303012
on the way to Lorian and Lothric, you literally can't miss them. They're mandatory.
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>>335303009
My last (You), you keep trying to move goal posts but anons keep on volleying goals on you so it is starting to get sad and I feel sorry for you.
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>>335303184
The way he dies also can change. There's one where he gets sucked into the abyss after the bracelets are gone instead of dissolving or the other one.
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Why is this mother of a fucker doing here? I thought DS2 didn't had a direct connection with this game.
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>>335302996
Who do you think is producing these illusions? Gwyndolin was the one in DaS1, but for obvious reasons, it couldn't be him this time.
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>>335303170
its pretty fine to me

maybe its just the PC version
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>>335303170
Not really, that retard couldve rolled away from that guy multiple times but chose to keep standing still trying to attack.
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>>335303281
Ludleth.
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>>335303181
>The dark Firelink is in the past.

No, fake Firelink is in the future.
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>>335302591
DEEPEST
LORE
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>>335303264
DS2 stuff is mentioned a fair bit anon.
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>>335303295
Except he couldn't. I've been in that exact situation multiple times both with light and heavy armor and you can't always roll away because the estoc is completely fucked.
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>>335303335
You can see firelink from the wall
Dark firelink is kinda in darkness
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>>335303181
1) the illusion Andre doesn't drop any items
2) he doesn't fight like the real andre
3) he doesnt drop any souls either

>>335303281
It's either Ludleth or someone else related to the Dark ending. Hoping for DLC to explain it.
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>>335302219
>his foolishness led to a loss of the annals

>join dragons (his foolishness)
>get purged from history by Gwyn
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>>335303204
If you can manage to remember/find it, I'd love to see it, as I don't recall that description.
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>>335302765
Those are not the same crowns, it's a thematic link. The BotC from 2 gathered 3 crowns that granted literal power themselves, whereas Wolnir's crown made of crowns symbolically represents his power over the other monarchs he crushed.
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>>335303009
>Sun is not lighting, but whatever
so sunlight spear and sunlight blade don't deal lightning damage?
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>>335303436
>You can see firelink from the wall
no you can't
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>>335302720
Yeah, I also like he has a lot of physical and magic attack instead of just SMASH UUUU like in the past games. That ring of fire and meteor storm are rad as fuck.
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so what's the profaned capital? new londo? majula? what

with all the water shit before you enter it and the long broken walkways it kind of looks like a bizarro heide's tower
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So is the unsurp ending the best?
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>>335303327
>>335303486
But there is fucking nothing to suggest Ludleth being capable of this. It's just stupid shit made up by some anon.
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>>335303513
I'm looking in the wiki, but can't guarantee I will find it though.
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>>335303517
Maybe, but he was also a Grave Warden, another reference to DaS2.
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>>335301719
you just have to die more until your hollowing level is high enough. check your stats, what's your hollowing level?
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>>335303638
There's nothing that suggests that Gwyndolin is able to create illusions either.
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I want my Priscilla back
The replacement girl just isn't as cute
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>>335303638
>>335303513
>>335303486
The most Ludleth says is 'willed myself a Lord'

Someone decided to read too much into it.

There's some basis but nothing concrete.
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why the fuck is andre still here? I spent the whole game trying to find out, I literally made a list "lore stuff to explain" and Andre was first.
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>>335303638
Doesn't Ludleth dialogue hint at him making the new Firelink for the unkindled, or something? I got that impression from my playthrough.
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>>335303697
>There's nothing that suggests that Gwyndolin is able to create illusions either.
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>Repulsive creatures of the deep are sure to attract the foolish, but the cathedral knights are prepared to meet such intruders head on with their more than ample might.
So what the fuck was a function of the Cathedral of Deep?
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>>335303638
He says he willed himself into a lord and created Firelink. Sounds like creating an illusory Smith to go along with that wouldn't be an issue.
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>>335303264
Well it does, so if you were hoping it wasn't canon, get over it.
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>>335303327
>>335303486
I never did it, but what happens when you attack Ludleth? Does he respawn as the others do? Even still, he dies once you bring the four Lords of Cinders to their thrones, and if you attack the other three, they revive. That isn't how it worked with Gwyndolin. Once he was dead, the illusions were gone.
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>>335303773
He's the one that tells you what to do, and his last speech is very suspicious. The intonation in his voice makes it seem like he's giving you an order.
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>>335303690
If you don't interact with the prophet(?) NPC you don't hollow at all when dying though.
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>>335303746
Or as tall.
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>>335303862
He dies, drops his ring.
Doesn't respawn.
Can still use his throne to transpose
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>>335303697
>There's nothing that suggests that Gwyndolin is able to create illusions either.
>illuson sun and illusion sister in ds1
lel
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>>335303424
You're retarded because every time you see him start his attacking animation is a time he couldve rolled away and that's not an estoc thats a rapier. You've only been in that situation because you're shit, you can roll out of any weapons combo after 2 hits.
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>>335303436
Post a screenshot. I'm pretty sure you actually never see firelink. Everything directly behind Lothric castle is conveniently hidden which makes me believe everything separating the deep and the rest of the world is the highwall itself.
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>>335303746
>he doesn't like both
I want to protect both smiles.
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>>335303620
The Profaned Capital is really confusing me, and it doesn't help that it's such a small area with not a lot of visual hints. Who are the gargoyles? Why is a giant king down there? What did Sulyvahn sense that drew him there, and what is the eternal flame he found and made into his Profaned Flame? The fuck is with that hand guy?
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>>335303815
To protect the outside worlds from the horrors contained within. Everyone in charge grew to fall in love with them, though.
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>>335303806
>>335303919
>Kill Gwnydolin
>Anor Londo is still lit and Gwynevere is still in her chamber
yet, for some reason, everyone universally believes that Gwyndolin is the one behind the illusion.
Fuck off.
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>>335303553
Savage
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>>335303815
To guard against monstrosities, deep most likely, and keep Aldritch locked up. However they got corrupted and began to venerate Aldritch.
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>>335301193

So since Smough is said to have been the last knight to fall in Anor Londo, does that mean him killing Ornstein is canon? Or did he come back to life at a later time and die alone in battle?

Either way, Smough seems to be remembered with some respect by the time of DaS3, and his hammer description only implies that he ate people.
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>>335303181
>>335303335
>>335303486
>>335303773
Okay let's say that dark firelink is "The real" firelink as in in the real world
that would mean the reast of the world is in the abyss

but when we get the kiln it's all light and the sun is eclipsed just like we left lothric
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>>335303889
But there's still no real basis to say he made new firelink.

It's extrapolation at this point.
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>>335303901
oh really? who's this prophet again...?
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>>335303513
Another interesting item description:

>Leo ring
>Ring associated with Dragon Slayer Ornstein, one of the Four Knights of Gwyn, the First Lord.
>Ornstein was the first knight of the sun's eldest born, and his cross spear is said to have pierced scales made of stone.

That implies that ornstein knew who the firstborn was and then went to search for him after some time, maybe he found out that the nameless king allied himself with the dragons and then got killed in battle.
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>>335303949
Her smile and eyes in this scene are very sinister and creepy. What the fuck.
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>>335303918
You can kill Ludleth at the start of the game, get his ring, and he'll be back the next time you port in and even reference you killing him.
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I'm pretty new to Dark souls.
What am I supposed to be leveling? It seems like you all know exactly what combination of weapons/armour to get yet I'm still trying to find lightning weapons. Advice in general for a newbie?
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>>335304020
Ornstein was an illusion, anon.
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>did bridge sequence
>talked to squidward
>killed both giants
>bought armor and rescued sieg

why the fuck wont patches go to firelink
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>>335303992
>Fight Gwyndolin
>Literally (read: literally) Have to run for 5 (five) entire minutes to reach the end of a short hallway
The biggest hint right there for you, fucko. Not even going to mention the lore stating that he has an affinity for illusions.
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>>335304018
>and keep Aldritch locked up.
>at least one of deacons was Aldrich best bro
>Aldrich himself was a devouted cleric when cathedral of deep was around
Nah
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>>335303620

So was Irithyll built around Anor Londo or is that just timelines and worlds converging or some shit? I noticed that it seemed like the entire mountain that the spinning bridge led to is gone, along with the Dukes Archives. Whatever happened to them?
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>>335304056
>that would mean the reast of the world is in the abyss

Why? Darkroot and New Londo got swallowed by the abyss without the rest of the world going with them.
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>>335304020
Ornstein left to go find Nameless leaving Smough the only one to defend AL. Orn armour
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>>335304086
Eyes?
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>>335303921
>le epic Shit meme
Fuck off retard. The estoc is broken. And the God awful fucking netcode makes it worse. I go into games with a +10 one and hit people 4 times in a row and they die. I've never been parried and the large majority of the time they can't even roll away.
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>>335304147
Where do you think his bed was? I'll admit locked up was probably wrong but the Cathedral could be viewed as his grave.
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>>335304086
>eyes
?
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>>335304109

Did you let him trap you in the tower yet? Believe that needs to happen, and then he hides somewhere upstairs in the shrine.
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>>335304064
It is. There's nothing in the game that properly explains dark firelink. There's only an hint left by Champion Gundyr's stuff and Maiden's dialogue.

It's DLC bait.

>>335304056
>but when we get the kiln it's all light and the sun is eclipsed just like we left lothric
Not sure if you noticed, but when you get to the kiln, you get a Flameless Shrine (just like the dark one) + everything is destroyed, including Lothric. Also the Sun is in heavier degradation and leaking shit.

There's time travel shit going on there.
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>>335303918
My point is though, when he is dead, the other three supposed "illusions" still respawn though, no? Or are you suggesting the ability to transpose indicates he still lives?
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>>335303992
What the fuck are you on about? You have to kill Gwynevere and darken AL to even find Gwyndolin.
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>>335304109
Go visit the tower in Firelink. You need 20k if you haven't already.
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>>335304105
stfu
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>>335304154
>along with the Dukes Archives. Whatever happened to them
Lothric archives were build on Seath old ones
Yes, it's fucked up
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>>335304154
A little of both most likely.
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>>335304256
i guess ill try going inside again
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>>335304317

Go up the lift, that should trigger him
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Do DaS 2 and 3 run better or worse than 1 with DSFix? Obviously first thought is that newer games are more demanding but given how shitty the DaS port was it's possible that it runs worse than 2/3.
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>>335304271
>and darken AL to even find Gwyndolin
No you don't
You just need a ring
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>>335304317
Gotta ride the elevator
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>>335304101
Depends on your build
Typically for 1st runs with sword and board you alternate between HP/Dex/Str/end
Putting more into what you need etc
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>>335304208
>doesnt even address the fact that the kid in OP's webm is using a rapier and not estoc

>I'm playing shit players who don't know how to roll out of my attacks & its the weapons fault >:((((( le netcode >:((( i'm not wrong, YOU ARE!!!
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>>335304258
Doesn't he only permanently die at the end of the game?
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>>335304271
>You have to kill Gwynevere and darken AL to even find Gwyndolin.
But that's completely wrong, retard. You can find Gwyndolin without ever getting to O&S.
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>>335304303

That seems way too far away and in the wrong direction
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>>335304101
>pretty new
Base stats to wield a weapon you like, make it Raw (infusion).
Pump vig/End until comfortable then throw in some Vit for better armour if you want.

If you go with Raw you shouldn't have to worry about pumping str/dex for scaling and should make the levelling/learning process a little easier.
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>>335304065
This guy.
You can talk to him but if you take his free level up service he will give add a dark sigil to your inventory which will make you hollow every time you die.
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>>335304424
I know
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Did they ever gave an explanation for the champion of ash having no lungs?
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>>335304194
>>335304231
Was I the only one that noticed this?

Are these two shining things just a complete coincidence? I somehow doubt it. She only shows up with these if you give her the Eyes of a Fire Keeper too.
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So is the dancer Gwynevere's Daughter (she had many kids, and the dancer wears the veil of old royalty) or was she one of Gwynevere's handmaidens (as her soul can be used to create the handmaidens' miracle Soothing Sunlight)?
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>>335304154
I get the feeling lot's of these places around Lothric has been moved by some space fuckery.
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>>335303815
My understanding is that they were devoted to protecting against the deep, led by Royce, McDonnell, and Aldrich, but Aldrich was corrupted and developed his hunger, turning him into a monstrosity. The deacons then began to worship him and the whole thing got fucked.
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>>335304383
2 is about the same and 3 is pretty weird so far.
I'm not bottlenecked by my 4790k and 980 so the slight delays when killing certain enemies and in certain places still need worked out.
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>>335304402
Yeah, once you put the other lords on their seats he goes full sudoku.
It's why his throne will let you transpose after the fact.
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>>335304162
well clearly the rest of the world got swallowed to because you can't fucking see the sky

You could still see shit in new Londo and drakroot
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>>335303008
His real name is literally Little Gwyny.
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>>335304519
(Grand)Daughter makes the most sense. There's a case that Rosaria could be one of the chest's handmaidens but it's speculative at best.
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>>335302761
GUESS WHAT'S ONE OF THE ATTACKS OF SOLAIRE?
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>>335304507
In anatomically terms, that is way to high up. Your eyes are always placed in line with there the ear attaches, not the top of them.
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>>335304440
>make it Raw
Ah yes, I love having all my weapons not scale with anything.
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>>335304507
Looking at the screenshot that just looks like light reflecting off of her faceplate thing.
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>>335303992
spells don't necessarily need the caster to be alive to continue working.
The painted world, for instance.
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so the nameless king is gwyns first born. does that prove that solaire is in no way related to gwyn, then?

i remember most people assumed solaire was gwyns son.
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>>335304519
>she had many kids
pure speculation

she's the maiden. Her armor, including veil, were probably given to her by Sulyvahn because he found them in Anor Londo.
Her miracle states it was given to maidens of Gwynevere, so yeah. She's a maiden.
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>>335304480
Who the fuck kills him later in the game?
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So I made the Firekeeper cry.
Should I continue down this dark path or is there an alternative?
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Jesus christ I just finished the game for the first time and I killed the firekeeper in the ending

ow the fucking edge
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>>335304507
It might by symbolic, but it's still just on an eye mask.

I'm sure there's a noclip image or two floating around somewhere.
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>>335304080
I read both of these more as a loyal knight going to assist his exiled lord. I could definitely it see him going to hunt the Firstborn too though, looking at them with a different perception.
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>those two dragon assholes guarding the gate in Lothric's
>slash at one of their hands from inside a room
>abyss parasite bursts out
>open gate
>both dragons ded
>other dragon also has an abyss parasite now

I really wanted to know more about those things
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>>335304585
>Gwyn Jr. wants to be hardcore, but his dad won't let him.
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>>335304507
anon those are gems
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>>335304528

Lost Izalith seems to be roughly in the right position, along with what used to be Ash Lake. Anor Londo itself is missing a mountain and an entire archive complex.
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>>335304020
With these new item descriptions, it wouldn't be that much of imagination if smought were real and ornstein was an illusion, since he left anor londo to search the nameless king. Maybe that's why smoght ate ornsteins illusion, to get the power from gwyndolin, assming that killing ornstein first is the cannon.

They could be both illusions, but they give a shitload of souls after getting killed. It could be just for gameplay purpose but I don't think from would do that, since andre illusion gives you no souls.
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>>335304652
The armor mgiht've been given to her by Suly but he sent her away because of royalty connections. He wouldn't feel threatened if she was just a handmaiden.
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>>335304626
It removes some stats for them to worry about early while they get comfortable with the game.

Raw is strong as fuck this time round.
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>>335304440
why are u trying to trick him? raw is literally the worst option
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>>335304507
Have you never seen what a face looks like?
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>>335304676
>ow the fucking edge
do Yuria's questline on your next playthrough, it's even edgier
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>>335304507
>tfw no TUBES in DaS3
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>>335304742
YOU WANT SCALING ASAP AND ALWAYS.
STOP MISINFOING YOU SHITTER.
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>>335304740
>he sent her away because of royalty connections.
what? source?
I was under the impression that Suly just sent his knights around to guard or do explore.
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>>335302919
sauce senpai? reverse image search was unhelpful
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>>335304652
>pure speculation
Not according to the description of the sun princess ring that you find in Gwynevere's room...
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So where do I find Alvas set?
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>>335304731
The giant sentinels in DS1 are illusions and give souls when killed
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>>335304595
There's a fair bit of backing for Rosaria being Gwynevere herself.

Give me a few minutes and I'll complie the list of items.

One big thing is the Black Eye Orb sidequest (I always forget that faggot's name).
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>>335303576
Not him, but you can see lothric castle from firelink which makes it pretty clear where it is.

Dark Firelink is heavily implied to be in the past. Gundyr does not drop a soul when you kill him when you start the game because he dropped the soul in Dark Firelink Past. You find the eyes of the firekeeper there and Ludleth says "Found her did you?" and refers to it all in past tense.

I won't pretend to know what it all means but it seems pretty certain it's in the past.
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>>335304676
>Not fucking furiously in the dark for all eternity with the firekeeper
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>>335304754
>>335304717
they're most likely symbolic, retards.
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>>335304827
Not in the early game unless you pump only 1 damage stat. All of the infusions for higher scaling reduce the base damage a shitload.
For a while that reduction is more than you would get off of scaling.
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>>335304676
*steps on head*
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>>335304838
I'd tell you if I knew.
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>>335303963
Might be the ruins of New Londo. Though the architecture isn't very similar. Then again, in Dark Souls 1, we only got to see the rooftops and a bit of the waterways. So it could be the ground level of New Londo - it has a very strong connection to the Abyss.
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>>335304596
It's been confirmed that Solaire is just a nutter, let the dream die meemster.
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>>335304652
>>335304519
>The Pontiff Sulyvahn bestowed a double-slashing sword upon a distant daughter of the formal royal family, ordering her to serve first as a dancer, and then as an outrider knight, the equivalent to exile.

>The mirage-like aurora veil is said to be an article of the old gods, permitted only for direct descendants of the old royal family.

She's a direct descendant, but might be a bunch of generations in between
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>>335304865
many =/= several
It says several. Confirmed Gwynevere's children are Ocelotte, Lothric, Lorian and Gertrude. That'd fit the "several" word.
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>>335304837
The outriders and the Dancer are so bestial and fucked up because he gave them rings that mind rape them after a while. He also gave the Dancer armor that fused to her skin
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>>335304865
since she's a fucking illusion it would be hard for her to have kids
its just legends passed down to the peons
you're apparently part of that demographic
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>>335304909
RingFinger Leonhardt or something like that. Alright. I am fully liking the idea that Gwynevere became Lothric's queen but Rosaria seemed more like her soul got fractured to me.
>>335304875
Dungeons, in the room where you find Karla and the profaned coal.
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>>335304928
GOAT ending, gg miyazaki.
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>>335304875
You have to complete the Crab Sidequest and then fight Alva and his waifu in a memory.
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>>335304719
The roads in undead settlement tell tales of not being where they are supposed to be.
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>>335304257
So you admit that Dark firelink is the past and we are travling into the future from the current firelink
(which then also would be the real firelink then)
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>>335305020
What exactly references Gertrude? Sounds like she might've been the only happy end kid.
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>>335305032
yeah and what does this have to do with what you originally said?
this doesn't clarify what you said anon.
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>>335303746
Priscilla is an ugly unibrow having motherfucker.
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>>335304596
Solaire doesn't drop sunlight spear though. Protip: the statue of warrios of the sunlight have the same weapon as the nameless king.
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>>335304930
There's a reason why you get offered a fire-gem as a starting gift.
There's a reason why shriving gems start dropping by the bucket full.

And most people will alternate vig/dex | str.
Jesus you were one of the people telling new friends to get the drake sword too hu?
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>>335301576
This idiot couldve rolled away at any time but he kept trying to get a hit in. It's his fault he died
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>>335305134
>the only happy end kid
>trapped in Grand Archives
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>>335304484
Maybe they TOOK it and PUSHED it somewhere else.
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>>335304663
They all keel over. You find him amidst a sea of his fellow pilgrims corpses, saying he should have died. He dies shortly after completing his task of making you hollow out. Yuria, a worker for the serpents, says she has another pilgrim leading Anri to his/her destiny. So that is his task. Once he informs you that Anri is prepped for your unity and you commit the marriage, you return to find that pilgrim dead. It seems they exist solely for the completions of their tasks they've been given.
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>>335304679
I want to tenderly hold the Firekeeper close to me, and whisper sweet reassurances into her ear. I want to tell her that everything will be fine, that I will defeat the Lords of Cinder and link the fire, not for my own sake, not even for the sake of the world... I want to link the fire for her.

After making this profound promise, I slowly tighten my grip on her shoulders and bring her down to my waist. I waste no time in whipping out my whopper of a willy, and I swiftly slide my slimy snake inbetween her mask and face.

I pick up speed as I continue to mask-fuck her, and in my moment of climax I tear off her mask and shove my penis directly into her hollow (huehue) eye cavity and cum directly inside her face.
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>>335304929
>that high up
Go read some basic anatomy books
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>>335303840
He at no point says that he created Firelink unless you point me to proof that says otherwise.
He said he willed himself a lord and painted a new vision.

We know that when fire is about to go out the world goes to shit and it's assumed that things get better when fire is linked, but we don't know if the person linking the fire can actually affect the way they restore the world. Can they really paint a new vision.
On the other hand, in a world that's about to go to shit, new vision could just be world that is not about to end.

Also, he says he "willed himself a lord", but that's not how it works. You don't become lord because you want it, you need to have powerful soul to be proper fuel.
So did he go and gather amazing power just to link the fire and save the world or is he maybe lying.
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>>335305134
Bountiful Light
>Miracle taught to knights by Gertrude, holy maiden to the Queen.
>Gradually restores a large amount of HP.
>The Heavenly Daugher is said to be the Queen's child.

Divine Pillars of Light
>Miracle of Gertrude, the Heavenly Daughter.

>Brings down multiple pillars of light in the vicinity.

>The Queen's holy maiden Gertrude was visited by an angel, who revealed this tale to her.

>Despite losing both her sight and her voice, she was determined to record the tale. Ordinary men cannot decipher her fragmentary scrawl, nor comprehend how it became the foundation of the Angelic faith of Lothric.

Crystal Chime
>A sacred chime, once the possession of Gertrude, the Heavenly Daughter, and defiled by the scholars of the Grand Archives.

>The power of crystals granted the scholars a degree of success. In this case, their work enabled this chime to be suitable for casting both miracles and sorceries.
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>>335305134

Divine Pillars of Light, for example: "The Queen's holy maiden Gertrude was visited by an angel, who revealed this tale to her. Despite losing both her sight and voice, she was determined to record the tale. Ordinary men cannot decipher her fragmentary scrawl, nor comprehend how it became the foundation of the Angelic faith of Lothric."
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>>335305054
>went into NG+ so now I have to go kil a tree to unlock the transpose item list

God when will the wikis stop being awful? They're either slow to load or lacking in info.

Errrr, 10 minutes?
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>>335305050
Why do you assert that she isn't real just because there was an illusion of her at some point in time?
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So why does Rosaria transform people into worms
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>>335304697
The abyss creatures or the dragons? The first flame is dying and an age of darkness is about to begin, abyss is running rampant, taking over everything.
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>>335305207
The other guy should have died on the last hit before he got wrecked though.

FS let enemies do damage while you're on the ground but not you.
It's the dumbest shit ever.
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>>335305020
That is not confirmed at all, Queen could be a direct descendant of Gwynewere. Age of Gods if you have not noticed was a fuck ton of years ago.
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>>335304680
He was both a gwyn's knight and friend of the nameless one at the same time. Since his armor is found near the nameless king, I think it's pretty clear that they fought and he got killed.
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>>335303264
Why would you think that?
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>>335305346
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/boss-weapons
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So, Pontiff Sulyvahn is basically the big bad, right? From the lore it seems like he was doing a lot of maneuvering to get the most power possible, including shipping away those with royal connections like Dancer. Not to mention his role in taking over Anor Londo and siccing Aldrich on the place. Every bit of lore I read about this guy makes it seem like he was really pulling the strings that caused the downfall of Lothric and Irithyll.
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>>335305050
>its just legends passed down to the peons
Got a source for that?

It's commonly accepted the Gwyndolin created the Gwynevere illusion in Anor Londo, and a real one left the city to live her life elsewhere.
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>>335305361
i don't know, why do you assert that she had kid because some shit is written in a description that sounds way too joyous and happy of an ending for a fucking dark souls game
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So what's the deal with Curse Rotten GW?
I was expecting something to come out on the final phase but he just went down.
Also, what a dumb fight.
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>>335305190
Sure if you start with the fire gem that is a better choice than raw on a new character.
Not entirely sure why you are making the point about shriving gems. You could ways use raw for the first few areas then strip it and put a scaling infusion on.

Really all I'm trying to say is that for the first few areas, if a new person wanted to focus on vig/end for a little more survivability early on, they could use raw to keep their damage up until they get to a point where they start leveling dex/str and can then switch infusions.
I'm not saying to use raw the whole game or while they are leveling str/dex.

And no, drake sword is never a good choice.
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>>335305417
>not confirmed at all
lol

Dark Souls 1 Divine Blessing
>Holy Water from the Goddess Gwynevere. >Fully restore HP and undo irregularities.
>The Goddess of Sunlight, Gwynevere, daughter of the great Lord of Sunlight Gwyn, is cherished by all as a symbol of bounty and fertility.

Dark Souls 3 Divine Blessing
>Holy water blessed by the Queen of Lothric.
>Fully restores HP and cures ailments.
>The Queen of Lothric, married to the former King Oceiros, was initially revered as a goddess of fertility and bounty. After giving birth to Ocelotte, her youngest, she quietly disappeared.

Just do the math. Miyazaki almost spells it out for you.
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>>335305373
Because Miyazaki san has a transformation/corruption fetish.

Change = evolution = turning into amorphous blobs, in his mind. See Bloodborne.
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>>335301810

one is Deamon Souls, the other Dark Souls, are you new anon?
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If the fire keeper in the firelink shrine is blind, how come she reacts to your gestures?
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>>335305346
That's fine. I'm just losing my sanity farming for ears.

>>335305295
>>335305329
Sounds like she picked up the moniker heavenly daughter from the angel sighting not so much in connection to Gwynevere.
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>>335305274
I'd hate to rain on your parade, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NBZywYTaAk
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>>335304884
I always thought they were powered by souls, so you just get them after they die, like the golems which open the doors. They need souls to activate, so maybe that's what happens to the sentinels.
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What if Ornstein is the Nameless One's mount? Before NK stabs his mount and absorbs its power, his hand trembles a bit. Couldn't that be because he's reluctant to kill his old friend and squire?
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>>335305573
We also know inheriting powers is a thing retard.
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I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT DARK FIRELINK

EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME LINKS BACK TO THERE

SO

IS IT TIME TREAVLE
OR IS BRIGHT FIRELINK AN ILLUSION

WEHN WE FIGUR THAT OUT EVERYTHIGN ELSE WILL FALL INTO PLACE
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>>335305675
Nah, look at the storm curved sword's description.
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>>335305628
>The Heavenly Daughter is said to be the Queen's child.
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>>335305601
Never heard of suspension of disbelief, have you?
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>>335305570
It's always better in souls to concentrate on getting good with dodge and chipping though.
I see your point and logic though.
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>>335305373
you got it in the wrong order, doofus. those people are being reborn as worms. that's why longfinger's shit is on that nonhostile worm next to the bonfire.
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>>335304838
Found it

http://radroachhd.tumblr.com/image/142855161140
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So of the three Archdeacons:

- One left to go to Aldrich in Irithyll, McDonnell
- One stayed at Aldrich's coffin, Royce
- One went to Rosaria, ???

What's the third one's name and where is he? Is he that worm hollow thing with a staff who doesn't attack? Is he the worm Rosaria is stroking?
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>>335305698
you see ocelot anywhere?
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>>335305731
Future Firelink, I think. Untended Graves is a sort of limbo/wormwhole between then and now.
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>>335305698
Anon the point was the fact that they deliberate make mention of fertility and bounty. There is only one(1) figure in DaS that gets such things attached to her.
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Why does it say

HEIR OF FIRE DESTROYED

for every non lord of cinder boss?

Vordt was chosen to carry the fire?
Oceiros?
Fucking Deacons?
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>>335305764
Nah, the dialogue when you give her the eyes seems to indicate she still perceives the world, just in a different way.

Bitch has some Daredevil skills.
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>>335302427
That's a good find anon.

>>335303142
>implying it doesn't.
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>>335305698
Are you implying that the Queen of Lothric is a descendant of Gwynevere?
Because no two deities share the same symbolism/power, retard.

See Gwyn, god of the sun and First Born, god of war
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Tell me about the firekeeper.


Why does she wear the mask?
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>>335305815
>those nips

what
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As curious as I am about the Untended Graves, what's the deal with the third version of Firelink Shrine? The one that you teleport to before going to the Kiln.

Is it the true form of the one you're in that reverted its illusion now that Ludleth is dead?
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>>335305760
Well fine, it could work if they're using the word maiden in reference to her age and youth.
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Why is Ornstein everywhere?
>gets killed in 1
>armor at least comes back and gets killed in 2
>find out he went to find the nameless king in 3, gets killed
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>>335305943
So she doesn't have to see the hell she's in.
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>>335305731
The real question here is what the other end of the coild sword is doing in Lothric wall if dark firelink really is the past
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>>335305972
If I had shop skills I'd make em pink.
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>>335305825
Where is it stated that there were three archdeacons? I don't recall that, but if that's the case, the third one could be Aldrich since he was a high up in the church, possibly the leader.
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I remember someone posted an album showing off cut weapons/armor. Did they every post how they managed to dig them up?
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>>335306032
Because Ornstein is the greatest.
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>>335305931
>Because no two deities share the same symbolism/power, retard.

We literary started this thread with proving that you fucking idiot.
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>>335306032
the jews.
From love him and he's a pretty integral part to the lore.
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>>335305808
Well yeah, no shit. But why is that her choice for what to have her followers reborn as? Did the term "Rosaria's Fingers" come about as a result of what her followers eventually end up as, or is it because of that term that she literally makes them like giant fingers
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>>335306032
The unbelievably powerful and mystical supernatural ability he has known as fan favoritism.
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>>335306091
The same way every unused asset is found, in the games files.
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>>335306104
I don't think you know that this discussion is about.
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>>335305865
And she has descendants which Pontiff wants to root out.
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>>335306032
Old Dragonslayer really throws a wrench into Ornstein's lore. It doesn't fit with anything we know. Dark Souls 2 is canon though so it fits somewhere, but where, I can't tell.
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Sulyvahn seems like he was a bit of a dick. Anyone else notice this?
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>>335304731

>Smough left all alone in AL
>Gwyndolin just stays in the basement
>bunch of illusions to keep him company

Poor guy
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So what's the VIG meta for PvP? Thinking of minmaxing my dick off with the Prisoner's Chain and Ring of Steel Protection +2
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>>335306138
Besides being one of Gwyn's four knights, what lore significance does he have, especially in 2 and 3? Could've been replaced with anyone in 3.
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>>335306275
[[[citation needed]]]
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>>335306071
>A sign of the Way of White's highest rank.
>Of the three Archdeacons of the Deep, one cast off his white crown and left the cathedral to stand by Aldrich.
>Of the three Archdeacons of the Deep, one stood over Aldrich's casket, with hope that he would return one day.
>Of the three Archdeacons of the Deep, one attended to Rosaria,Mother of Rebirth, whom he deemed a goddess.

You see McDonnell, he's the covenant leader for the Aldrich Faithful, and you kill Royce, who is the spirit in the Deacons of the Deep fight. Where is the third, and what's his name?
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>>335305434

Because DS2 was utter trash and a goddam embarrasment
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>>335306275
To be fair, it's never stated which royalty Dancer belongs to. It just gets assumed it's AL because of proximity. Boreal valley could've had it's only royal family before it got dragged to Lothric and joined with AL.
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>>335306330
>sending children as human sacrifice to be horribly eaten by Aldrich

nah man he's okay
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Will there ever be a weapon as perfect as the Meat Cleaver again?
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>>335305593
>DS1
>Demon's Souls 1
As opposed to Demon's Souls 2?
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>>335305825

Klimt, as seen in, among other items, the Saint Bident: "A silver bident decorated by a holy symbol, formerly wielded by Saint Klimt. He discarded this weapon, that draws upon one's faith, on the day that he put his own faith behind him."
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>>335305489
Suly was probably a big part of fucking shit up with his power grabs. For all we know his connections to the Cathedral and the Capital could've caused the spread of the abyss in the region and his knights are everywhere, making me think he might have been staging an assault on Lothric.
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>>335305897
It's not a matter of anyone making a choice.
If one is powerful enough they can be used to fuel the first flame.
All bosses in DS 3 are powerful enough that ether they already have been burned once or they could easily gather some more strength and be used as fuel.
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>>335306467
>The mirage-like aurora veil is said to be an article of the old gods, permitted only for direct descendants of the old royal family.

It's Gwyn & Co.
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>>335301576
explain this fucking shit

>nameless king
>kills dragon/wyvern
>dies to king
>well, atleast the dragons dead
>comes back because hollow/unkindled
>dragon alive even though was stabbed in head and exploded
MAKES FUCKING SENSE

why do I lose my smooth skin but this guy gets to keep his dragon?
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>>335306508
Will there ever be a set as perfect as the Lord's Blade again?
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How can you be in the middle ages for thousands upon thousands of years?

Are the humans in other kingdoms fucking retarded?
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>>335306330
Well, he just imprisoned Yorshka and not killed/feed her to aldrich, and her tower is pretty safe space
But yeah, generally he was big dick, with rings he gaves to the knights and other shit he pull
At least he is friends with Aldrich, and first thing he did was transferring him to the more fitting city
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If Firelink is an illusion Ludleth created for the Unkindled One then how come randos from the "real" world can go there easily? Does Ludleth call them on his cellphone like "yo, I'm gonna transport you to an illusion, but don't tell Mr. Unkindled about it" before they go there?
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>>335306360
>especially in 2
Ornstein took note from Arty and got corrupted because he wasn't going to go down that easily..But is bound by duty that's why he's in the Tower Of Not AL
3 I'm still unsure about.
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>>335306382
Maybe the non-hostile grub since it is holding a bident and drops the red soap. Definitely not the man-grub that appears later in the room since that's Heysel.
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>>335306382
Pretty sure the third is a slug dude. And his name is on the saint's bident I think.
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>>335305593
Demon's Souls 1? I must've missed 2
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>>335306575
Right, yeah. But who/where is he?
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be me:
what kind of lore you want to discuss?
lord of the rings, the brother's karamazov, the three musketeers?

/v/: we want to discus the lore of an action video game!

say no more oppai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8KJYpRh28
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>>335306601
Her armor also says that it was given to her and fused together with her skin by Pontiff.
He basically found it and made her wear it.
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>>335306649
Same thing happened with ornstein and smough in ds1. It's just gameplay.
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>>335306663
>inb4 tips fedora
When gods actually exist around you and don't want to change the way things are going, you shouldn't either.
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>>335303992
>Implying Gwyndolin needs to be alive after the illusion has already been cast
The creator of the Painted World is long dead and yet it still exists.
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>>335306656
I think you mean the Silver Knight Set.
Fucking From gave us the BK shitters again but not the silvers.
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>>335306663

I forgot the part where the middle ages had magic and dragons and shit.
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>>335306382
>Where is the third, and what's his name?
My bet's on on the passive grub with the Red Soapstone Sign.
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>>335303486
The fire keeper doesn't drop souls either. I haven't killed handmaiden because she ups her prices. It's been who knows how long, why would he have to fight the same way? He also makes you go to velka after you kill him.

>>335303773
>>335303773
Almost word for word what ludleth says

"The eyes show a world destitute of fire, so it is I willed myself lord, to link the fire. to paint a new vision. What is thine intent?"

I don't know how anyone is getting the "he created an illusion" from this. He's clearly saying that the age of dark is shit, so he became a lord to prevent it and work on creating his own vision of the age of fire. His other comments about bringing about the age of dark pretty much amount to "don't fucking do it"
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>>335305380

The abyss things. I was really intrigued by them since Gundyr went full RE boss, but they were never really elaborated on.
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>>335306663
Everything keeps getting fucked by the cycle before it can advance.
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>>335306776
Painted World isn't an illusion.
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>>335306309
Could have been just a fanboy cosplaying or just the piece of armor raising by itself and being controlled like the dragonslayer from 3, the soul description says is just a reminiscent of an old legend, so it can't be him. He doesn't even have thunder attacks either, it is all dark
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>>335306686
But you find the Bident outside the cathedral past the first giant.
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>>335306330
Literally hte only guy that is most deffenetly pure evil in Dark Souls
>ill use the power i got to send people that knows shit out of my city
>ill also give them these rings that turn them into mindless beast
>ill also alie myself with the giant balob that eats people
>why not feed him a god too
>lets lock said gods adopted kid in a tower forever
>maybe also send some beast soldiors to Lorthric because i just fucking hate people there

100% Pure faggotry
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>>335304663
He just dies on his own after the Abyss Watchers croak. Lore-wise, who the fuck knows. His time came and now he'll eventually metamorph into a pilgrim butterfly? The Pilgrim who has you kill Anri for the wedding dies after the deed is done too.
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So it's confirmed that Miyazaki just gave up with the Covenants, right? I mean shit, Blades of the Darkmoon is just copypasta of the Blue Sentinels.

I'd be okay with the two covenants both assisting Way of Blues if only the rewards for the two covenants were different, but nope.
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>>335306408
Says you, at least it tried new things
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>>335306820
At his very last dialogue, after you offer the cinders of Lothric, he bosses you around.
he's extremely suspicious.
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>>335306369
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Pontiff's+Left+Eye
>Knights who peer into the black orb are lured into battles of death, transformed into frenzied beasts. No wonder the Pontiff only provides these rings to those dispatched to foreign lands.

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Soul+of+the+Dancer
>The Pontiff Sulyvahn bestowed a double-slashing sword upon a distant daughter of the formal royal family, ordering her to serve first as a dancer, and then as an outrider knight, the equivalent to exile.

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Soul+of+Pontiff+Sulyvahn
>Pontiff Sulyvahn of Irithyll imprisoned a god of the old royalty in the abandoned cathedral, to be fed to the devourer.

>>335306467
Yorshka is still around and he intended to throw her to Aldrich, she claims to have Royal ties.
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>>335301719
Because the fire causes death and with the fire dying out, you don't stay dead.
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>>335306663
I'm more concerned about the fact that everything is just so grimdark, where the fuck is everybody, who is building all those castles and shit when they are all just mindless hollows?
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So is Aldrich actually Gwendolyn or is Gwendolyn's corpse a puppet of the actual Aldrich?
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>>335306903
I think he realized the demand for niche covenants was too low so he deemed them a waste of time.
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>>335306663
I believe it's called Bloodborne. Look it up
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>>335306892
>His time came and now he'll eventually metamorph into a pilgrim butterfly?
Why the fuck do people think the pilgrims turn into the butterflies?
It doesn't make any sense. The cleric set says that they wear the shell on their backs to keep the abyss from sprouting out of their bodies.

In the High Wall of Lothric several hollow are praying to other hollows impaled on trees. The Butterflies seem to be half-tree half hollows that grew wings. There is a ritual going around in Lothric early in the game to turn people into the butterflies.
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>>335306754
Huh? No, it doesn't
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>>335307012
She says she's gwyndolin's sister. I only got that dialogue once as I leveled up the blades of the dark moon covenant.
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>>335307059
But I mean, he went through the trouble of hiding the Darkmoons. Why not just give them their old job back?
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>>335302591
Escort that crab to the crabs in Smouldering Lake for absolutely nothing
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>>335306663
Human beans can barely restart and get to the feudal age before the cycle decides it's having it's period again.
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>>335307057
just a corpse, gwendolyn is dead.

so what about the theories that Rosaria could be linked to Gwynevere? A mother of Rebirth. She has a miracle that was said to have been owned by Gwynevere. And Rosaria laments the loss of a child (Priscilla?)
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Is Murakumo missable? I went back to where I read it should be and the guy didn't spawn after I had already killed deacons.

My only gripe with this game is how many quest lines can be broken if you don't play the areas in the "correct" order.
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>>335307012
Yeah Yorshka claims because Gwyndolin found her and took her under his wing. She's most likely a seathe experiment.
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Been asking in every thread. What is the canon armour set in Ds3? Is it the Firelink set?
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>>335306678
I meant the grub that Rosaria's stroking, not the one you kill for the pick
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>>335307038
Every Dark Souls game takes place at the end of a cycle when the flame starts to fade. It's not always this dark and crazy, we just don't get to see any other parts.
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>>335307057
I think Aldrich is in the process of consuming Gwyndolin when you show up. That's why you target the big black blob - the Gwyndolin part is just his puppeted corpse, and the blob is really Aldrich, as evidenced by the intro cinematic.
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>>335307218
What's the point of the Fingers covenant? You don't have to be in it to get Tongues, and you don't have to be in it to use her services
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>sludgeman ate trap husbando who was already dead or something
>he's just a shitty wizard boss
Aldritch is the worst.
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>>335307218
>gwendolyn is dead
first onionbro, now this

Miyazaki is too cruel
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>>335307238
Murakumo's on Alva in Ithryll.
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>>335306781
The fuck are you talking about you can get both
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>>335307038

Because you only get the pleasure of seeing the world when it's well on its way to shit.
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>>335307238
Were you embered?
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>>335307287
What do you mean canon? There is no canon to the player character, that'd be retarded.
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>>335307012
How does that say that Pontiff intends to root out descendants of Gwynevere?

Pontiff's Left Eye literally doesn't mention anyone in particular, or any land.

Soul of the Dancer says she's a "distant daughter of the formal royal family" (hint: maiden). even if you assumed the dancer was gwynevere's child, this still doesn't mean that the Pontiff was intent on killing every offspring of Gwynevere. Is Vordt Gwynevere's kid too? What about all the Knights in Irithyll Valley?

>Soul of Pontiff Sulyvahn
yeah, that person he imprisoned is Gwyndolin, not a descendant of Gwynevere.
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>>335307318
Prepare to Cry.
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>>335307350
WHERE
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Would you become a nasty-ass grub if it meant Rosaria resting her tits on you and stroking you for all eternity?
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>>335307287
Canon in what manner? On the cover? It's SoC's armor set.
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>>335307404
Anor Londo
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>>335307318
Sigmeier had a beautiful resolve.
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>>335307404
They drop from the SKs in AL
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>>335307313
>who was already dead or something
Nah, Gwyndolin was alive. Probably had his sneks stepped on but he was alive when he got eaten.
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>>335307313

At least Suleyman has the decency to put up a good fight.
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>>335307287
>canon armour set
what
If by canon you mean "used in advertising", yes, but it's also the last boss' armor
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>>335307238
Yeah I did all of Siegward's quest up to freeing him from the dungeon until I realized the quest was broken and he didn't appear at Yhorm, because I rested at the dungeon bonfire before meeting him in the sewer.
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>>335307287
Popular != canon
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>OH MAN SO DEEP NO OTHER GAME IS THIS DEEP I AM SO CULTURED FOR GETTING INVESTED IN THIS

Souls needs its own containment board I think.
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>>335307387
>>335307424
The armour that will be reflected the most in the art. The same way when you think of the player characters in 1 & 2 you think of Elite Knight's Set and Faraam Set.
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>>335307301
There should be a spinoff game of Less Dark Souls, where you get to explore the world when it's at it's peak of the cycle and shit is generally fine.
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>>335306880
Yeah I'm just saying that I remember the description having his name on it.

>A silver bident decorated by a holy symbol, formerly wielded by Saint Klimt. He discarded this weapon, that draws upon one's faith, on the day that he put his own faith behind him.

Hmm, maybe I'm wrong and it's just some random dude.
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>>335307505
>>335307521
You guys shouldn't get his hopes up
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>>335307583
Who are you quoting, queer?
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>>335301798
Alva's set drops in the room with the jailkeepers and where you let out Karla. Only after you get invaded.

Also for me, it didn't appear first time, so I had to rest first. I went through the Dungeon and the Capital and back to Karla without resting
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>>335307583
Why not post in a thread about a video game you like, while simply scrolling past these threads?
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>>335307594
In that case, maybe the fallen knight set though it's really up in the air.
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>>335302427
>>335302427
>dark souls 2
>canon

lol
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>>335305628
I'll just do the item and the relevant part

>Bountiful Sunlight - Granted by Princess of Sunlight ... loved as both mother and wife
>Lorian's Greatwsword - single handedly slayed the Demon Prince (Ocelotte could apply)
>Divine Blessing - after giving birth to Ocelotte, her youngest she quietly disappeared (emphasis on the quiet)
>Pale Tongue - Speechless goddess
>Lorian's gear - left mute and crippled by his younger brother's curse (likely means Lothric but doesn't rule out Ocelotte)

There's less than I remember because so much of it is the whole queen/oceiros bollocks.

I'm missing an item and I can't remember what, but it was the one that mentioned Rosaria or the Queen having their tongue removed by their firstborn (Lorian).

Coupled with everyththing Leonhard does and says, it's plausible.

I really didn't mean to rush this so much but it's late. I should make this more coherent and cap it for ease.
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>>335306781
Except it's in because I got the SK gloves.
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>>335306880

Because that's likely where he left it. His whole deal was abandoning Aldrich's faithful to be with his waifu Rosaria.
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>>335306140
Maybe she just finds them cute
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>>335303264
>I thought the world revolved around my memester faggotry
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>>335307636
But that's where you get the armor set.

>>335307694
I hate how there's so much armor that you can only get after an NPC invades you. I play un-Embered most of the time
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>>335307305
wait, you can do the character remake/respec without joining the covenenat? i am trying to keep the Sirris questline going, so i been avoiding this.

is this true??
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>>335307808
b-but the sword
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>>335304519
she's a whore slut
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>>335307239
Yorshka is Ocelotte, who Gwynevere took ran with after having given birth to him. She handed him over to Gwyndolin for him to raise, and once again ran off.

Gwyndolin used his trap magic and renamed Ocelotte, possibly to hide him, and brought him up as a daughter.

Yorshka mentions Gwnydolin as his brother, Gwynevere as sister and Gwyn as father, because that's how she heard Gwyndolin talk about them. He always refers to them as "Sister Gwynevere" and "Father Gwyn", never by their names alone.

>The Queen of Lothric, married to the former King Oceiros, was initially revered as a goddess of fertility and bounty. After giving birth to Ocelotte, her youngest, she quietly disappeared.

>A sacred chime belonging to Yorshka. Her brother, the former knight captain, presented her with this medium together with another gift: her name.

>another gift: her name
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Okay honestly who figured out how to get to the secret dragon area on their own? I just looked that shit up and would have never figured that out on my own.
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>>335307790
Lucatiel is canon
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>>335305116
If dark firelink is in the past, is the rest of the world in the past too?
Are you literally the terminator, sent in the past to gather the souls of the lords, which haven't even awakenend yet in theory since the handmaid said the bells haven't tolled, and bring them back?
The whole convoluted time stuff is fucking bullshit
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>>335302349
he has the darksign and is undead?
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>>335307790
>it's not canon because I say so
>lol
Wew, lad.
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>>335307839
Oh, no sorry. You have to join initially to get her services.

What I'm talking about is that there's absolutely no purpose to stay in the covenant once you join.
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>>335303773
There is the fact that ludleth is alluded to be the soulfeeder, since both his body and the beast was burnt
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>>335307808
I only have the helmet.
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>>335307801
>>>Divine Blessing - after giving birth to Ocelotte, her youngest she quietly disappeared (emphasis on the quiet)
Taking reaching into a whole new level
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>>335307790
Sorry nigga, it's canon. Too much carryover into the third game to deny it now.
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>>335307801
No worries and interesting stuff. What always puzzled me though was when Ringfinger became a princess guard. Was it when she was still at AL or was it the illusion version?
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>>335307636
What are you talking about?
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>>335307389
Yeah, you are fucking retarded if you don't understand how blood ties work. A descendant of Gwynewere is a descendant of Gwyn which Gwyndolin also happens to be, and no it is Yorshka he is planning to kill.
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>>335307874
if you've played bloodborne it's not hard to find out.
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>>335306656
>Ornstein, Smough, Artorias armour
>no Ciaran armour
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>>335307852

Gwyndolin doesn't have trap magic, he was given a ring and told to be a girl.
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does the soul of cinder have consciousness. or does he act on a directive?
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>>335306918


I rather something tread familiar ground and do it well then to try new things and fail at every turn.

Ds3 has more fan service but somehow Ds2 feels more like a fan made game.
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>>335307409
rosaria is tits mgee from DS1
that maggot is her child Ocelot
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>>335307874
I figured it out through messages
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>>335307325

Ya that's where I went.

>>335307384

Not initially, but I was when I went back after killing deacons
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>>335307852
>Gwyndolin used his trap magic
Then Gwyndolin became real good at trap magic if he fully changed him into a her.
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>>335302573
I thought the ninja skeletons were necromancers, I guess it's just random.
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>>335308104
>You can't obtain her armor because she never dies
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>>335308104
Smough isn't even a knight of Gwyn. Gough is missing too.
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Is there any point whatsoever to the reversal ring?
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>>335306593
Oh, ok sounds good to me.

Just finished reading the thread, here are my thoughts

Third archdeacon left and is not in the game, if he is in the game he is one of Rosarias slugmen.

Gwynevere left with Ocelotte, might or might not hear from her in DLC(might be Yorshka as some anon said)

Rosaria was one of Gwynevere's handmaidens, what intrigues me is who cut her tongue and why (also reminds me of DS firelink firekeeper.)

>>335307874
I did, but I was just trying to make a capture because the ded dragon looked funny to me.
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>>335308193
The skelly boulder controllers are the closest to necros.
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>>335308068
>A descendant of Gwynewere is a descendant of Gwyn
????
This is true, but Gwyndolin is not a descendant of Gwynevere, fucking retard. Gwynevere is not his ancestor.
Descendant is someone who is a blood relative in direct line of descent - read, a child, grandchild, so on and so forth.

Your brother isn't a descendant of yourself you mongoloid. There's another name for that parental relationship.
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was there a lore explanation for why armor was so useless in dark souls 2

armor in ds1 could be upgraded and it actually helped a ton

defense in ds3 matters too

in DS2 the damage you take goes down LINEARLY depending on how high your defense is. As in doubling your armor doesn't halve the damage you take.
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>>335308104
Ciaran will be in the DLC
My dad works for Fromsoft
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>>335307839
If you give Rosaria a pale tongue for any reason it fails the questline, I think you can get the covenant item but it's actually giving her a tongue that counts as "joining" the covenant. I'm not 100% certain though so I'd advise against joining until you're done with Sirris
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i'm liking all these theories. plus it's just fun discussion.
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>>335308259
It changes your stance.
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>>335308259
Trap RPing, I'm sure the japs had a spasm over it.
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>>335308249
Gough gave his bow to the giant at the tower, and the giant has his ring too.
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So what was up with both Dancer and Vordt appearing through weird black wintry portals or whatever the fuck? Assuming they're outrider knights, just higher up ones than those speedy fuckers elsewhere in the world, why would they be traveling through portals? And where are they coming from?
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>>335308307
Might be the Tracers are in the game already just not attainable.
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>>335302050
Stop assuming. We know Ornstein went to look for the Nameless King and that's it. We don't know if he was sent by Gwyn or on his own accord. There's some evidence that he might be friends with the Nameless King and went to look for him after Gwyn was gone.
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>>335308314
yeah the only thing that bugs me is this also locks me out of getting the Proper Bow gesture, which is my favorite for a female character. I need to be in Rosaria's covenant to get it from a summonable npc. Damn it.

>>335307949
Ah i get you now, no worries.
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>>335308363
But that's completely pointless. If you wanted to be a girl, just pick to be one in the beginning.
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>>335302427
DaS2 is 200 years after 1, and a lot of the gods in 2 aren't mentioned anywhere else. In fact, are Velka or that goddess Lautrec was obsessed with even mentioned in 2? Drangleic and its general area might have different gods now who probably don't exist but might.

Time passes, shit changes. Sacred Oath was in 2, but is now a Lothric tale about the Dragonslayer and his knights or something.
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>>335308104
>No Ciaran or Gough armor sets/weapons
>Can't make a ganksquad of Gwyn's Knights

Feels incredibly fucking bad.
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>>335307524
There's not really anything to prove this, his appearance is just a mash up of several DS1 bosses either due to dreaming of them or eating them, he takes on their features.
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>>335308383
I wore it to perfect my Anri outfit when I decided to start playing with elite knight and anri sword +5 in solemn remembrance.
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>>335308305
dark souls 2 had armor with passive perks
kill the armor merchant in majula for an armor set that combines to give you a 27.5 % exp boost
really, you should play 1 and 3 nude, save for when a boss gives you trouble, then wear an appropriate resistant set
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>>335308512
>invade player
>lord's 4 knight ganksquad
I wouldn't even be mad.
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>>335304020
wait smough was a knight?

I think he never acquired knighthood because of his sadist fucked up mind.

He was just a executioner
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>>335301576
this webm pisses me off why didnt the guy just roll into the rapier faggot? instead their over there trying to R1

hell your wearing the THORN SET ALREADY
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>>335308259
You can make cuter girls with the male sliders than the female sliders.
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>>335308426
Still his armor set isn't in the game if we're talking rings Hornet ring is also in game.
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So whats up with Giants in Dark Souls? Are the giants from DS2 the same as from DS1 and 3? Are they a different kind of giant? Or are they ignoring DS2 lore all together?
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>>335308586
Smug is not a knight.

The knights are Artorias, Goldstein, Cuteran and Gough ("Blind" giant)
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>>335308449
>npc with weapons that are perfectly suited to the new dual wield mechanic
>you can't fucking get them

bravo From
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>>335308673
I'm pretty sure that there are many humanoid giant races in Dark Souls, I just wish they didn't call them all "Giants".
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>>335301860

Vendrick and Aldia were researching a way to curse the curse, and consolidating the crowns gives you a crown to prevent hollowing.

It's safe to say they were about to solve the curse, so it's possible.
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>>335302720
Visions of sticky white stuff...
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>>335308704
If you're referring to the tracers, they are actually among the cut content list.
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>>335308586
Yeah Smough wanted to be a knight but he was just some fucking weird dirtbag. Who knows why he was even given the super important task of protecting Fake Gwynevere in the first place. He was probably all Gwyndolin had left, seeing as he probably never left Anor Londo cause he was such a fucked up weirdo.
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What is Leonhard's problem when you invade him? He's the one who stole Rosaria's soul, but the way he talks it's like you're the thief and he's protecting it. Is he just a really delusional faggot or is there something deeper?
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>>335304398
>:((((( le netcode >:((( i'm not wrong, YOU ARE!!!
ugh go eat some poison
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>>335308673
There's a giant tree in Firelink. And Yhorm's armor makes him resemble a DS2 giant, though he does actually have a face.
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>>335306032
Gotta pander somehow
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>>335308673
>Or are they ignoring DS2 lore all together?
I hope we get more in the DLC.
I'd love a game set around the giants war.
Those memories just pissed me off more than anything.
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>>335308574

Going nude in 3 is always a terrible idea, and there is no reason you should do it.
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>>335308673
I'm guessing they're two different races of giants.
The DaS 1 race ie Gough, Blacksmith, the ones that are imprisoned in DaS 3 and maybe Yhorm.

And the DaS 2 race without faces.
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>Fire Keeper asks me a question
>a fucking yes or no question
>no option to answer her, the dialog ends
WHAT THE FUG

IT'S A PRETTY MAJOR QUESTION TOO
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>>335308808
He has a face? Where? I mean, you know what I mean.
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>>335308784
He's a princess guard. Rosaria is probably the last living link to Gwynvere and he hates what has become of the last link.
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>>335308837
i beat the entire game nude, save for rings
beat all bosses
it was no problem
don't need defense when you don't get hit
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>NG+
>I still get summoned for Vordt.
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>>335308784
delusional fag
just like all the bloodborne players, all of which he symbolizes through his behavior and armor.
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>>335307238
Walk from distant manor to dungeon embered and kill the invader.
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>>335308867
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>>335308814

Yeah, I hate how they added stuff to his story in a cool way, giving us more insight on him. If only this sequel had nothing to do with everything that came before.
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>>335308797
another failed rebuttal, what a surprise
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>>335308902
You have fought Yhorm right?
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>>335308673
It's entirely possible that they are the same race, but steadily shrunk since the days of Anal Rodeo.
Because natural selection or whatever
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>>335308927

There is still literally no reason to do so. You fast roll at 69.9% equip burden.
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so does the fact that darkwraiths are around confirm them to be badasses
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>>335306853

Chester looks like he came out of the Victorian era, so they probably manage to advance at some point.
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>>335308934
Shitters don't know how to roll through his rampages.
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>>335309005
yeah, but I don't remember a face. Granted I was staring at his legs the whole time.
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>>335308902
You can see it in the shadows of his cowl during the intro cutscene, and the cinders of a lord make it really easy to see, though it's just a skull at that point
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>You can befriend the spear throwing Giant in Undead Settlement instead of killing him
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>>335308574

dark souls 2 also had the ability to upgrade armor, which really meant fuck all given the damage formula for that game.

damage you take = (attack power - 0.1*armor)*modifier*5/6
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>>335309112
>he dies when you get all the white branches
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>>335309094
Ah, that's true, I forgot about the cinders.Fair enough.
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>>335309094
His boss intro scene, not the game's starting cutscene, to be clear.
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>>335309057
i don't put any points into the weight/ defense stat
so carrying one big weapon puts me near that any ways
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>>335306820
What people are trying to get across is that maybe he made this illusion of firelink to hide the "real" dark one from you to convince you that there is still hope for linking the fire for him
and don't just give up.

No player would do that but from a lore standpoint it would make sence since most ash i just like the chrestfallen and would just say fuck it imidiatly if they saw the stat the world was in

I don't by it though.
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>>335306903
You can't give up on something you never gave a fuck about. All his games shit the bed when it comes to this and multiplayer in general.
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>>335309112
People killed him?
There was literally no room for him to attack you on the tower and Onion hints at no violence before that.
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>>335308673
DaS2 giants have different builds among themselves, but I'm sure they're just a different breed. Even Yhorm doesn't look like the actual giants we fight in 3 so who knows.
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>>335309112
>tfw when he helps you kill that crab in the swamp and helps out in the cemetery area outside the cathedral
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>>335309262
Gough's little brother is legit
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>>335309247
Previous Souls games have trained me to immediately kill the asshole who's been throwing things at you when you finally reach him
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>>335309208
If any of the firelinks is the "real" one, it would be the one you go to at the end of the game. Not the normal or dark one.
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>>335302821
>sirris dies if you don't take her as a knight

She kills herself like 2 minutes later even if you do.
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>>335308127

Maybe both? Since he is a fusion of everyone who were strong enough to link the fire, he must also have everyone's combined drive to keep it lit at all costs.
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>>335305050
>take a photo of someone

wow did you think that's a real fucking person? it's just a photo dude

that's how dumb you sound
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>>335307790
(You)'re a faggot
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why are there silver knights protecting aldrich's lair


doesnt make any sense
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>>335309347
h-he didn't know, he was just doing his job ;-;
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>Greirat is a bro and I want him to survive
>he's obviously tired of living (maybe since his waifu is dead) and wants to go die in a blaze of thieving glory in Lothric Castle

W-What do I do? Do I send him to pillage or not?
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>>335309371
so my question is that if the soul of cinder actually think. or does he have to protect the flame.
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>>335305529
It's not just commonly accepted, it's blatantly stated in-game
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>>335308934
>not having fun in NG+ once youve done one playthrough already
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Am I the only one who notices this?

Black hand HUNTERS dispose of UNDESIRABLE PROBLEMS, this hunters carry NO SHIELD, NO ARMOR.

Not saying there's a connection, just a reference.
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I lost Greirat cause I fucked up Siegward's questline and he died in Irithyll, but I found out his body is in the sewer with all those fucking horrifying Bloodborne reject spider-ladies.

So I'll never find his body.

I'm sorry Greirat.

;_;7
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>>335309553
yes, you are the only one who noticed that
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>>335308586

He was never made a knight, but thousands of years later people start remembering things wrong. So he kinda got what he wanted in the end.
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>>335309364
You can summon her for Dragon slayer armor and the twink twins if you let her be a knight.
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>>335309250
Isn't he wearing the same armor as the giant king was in that memory?
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>>335309057
you get extra roll distance at sub 25% btw
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>>335309652
>his ashes are covered in monster shit

Man, I felt so bad for him and I felt like shit for getting him killed. Not even in death can he find peace or respect.
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>>335309553

oh wow it's like from references shit

did you know the moonlight sword is in armored core
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>>335309358
I don't know what it is with some people

Why does everthing have to be illusions all the time
Why can't they all be the real one but in different times

Time is, as we know, very fucked in this world.

I would find it 100% morebelievable if that was the case
There really is no strong evidence pointing at any of them being illusions
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>>335305560
It could somehow remove the undead curse but it actually contained it instead. So at some point it just overfowed with curse and became corrupted
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>>335309652
how could you do this to your bro ;_;
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>give old item bitch ash covered in shit
>Gracious. Passing fine ash thou'st given
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>>335309851
Roll distance isn't necessarily a good thing. Shorter rolls let you make tighter manuevers, at least in DaSII
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so is dark wood grain in the game? I wanna do my full soul of cinder cosplay.
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>>335308574
Don't nude in 3, just use the master set with a loincloth and that mouththing found in the swamp.
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>>335307318
>people die as time goes on
>people die in a series that sells itself on dying
What do you honestly expect
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>>335309851
Is this even beneficial? It's pretty easy for me to roll under someone's attack at 69% and end up right behind then perfectly poised for an attack. I don't wanna go flying way behind them when I roll through their attack.
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>>335309894
I just pointed it out because I haven't sen it mentioned anywhere.

People always spergs out for the moonlight greatsword
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>>335309974
I'm expecting it to appear in the DLC.
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>>335310021

>using armor

wow it's like you like being casual

if you don't beat the game bare handed, using no estus, no armor, and never summoning, you don't have the right to say you beat it.
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Just finished Vordt

he was pretty crazy, what's his deal? also what does frostbite do
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>>335310062
well it has been a staple since kings field.
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>>335309923
>it just overfowed with curse and became corrupted
Fair enough but you'd think it'd give way to something new and even worse since corruption doesn't do the typical apathy like you'd expect.
Still kind of a cop-out just smashing eggs and the spooky hand.
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>>335309468
Idk if anyone's been able to get him to survive his pillage at lothric castle. I have a theory but I don't feel like playing through the whole game just to test it.

i suspect it has to do with not completing seigward's questline and not buying his armor from patches. When you send greirat to lothric, patches will ask where he went and sound pretty distraught and disappear. So if patches has the onion armor he might save him.
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>>335310184
it stops stamina regen. the reason he is like that are because pontiff and Aldrich are edgelords.
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>>335310062
Because MLGS is garbage in this game.
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>>335310184
>what does frostbite do
fucks with your HP and stamina temporarily.
Just wait until you fight mini-vordt later on
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>das 3 dlc
>final boss is a flipping havel
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So is Avelyn garbage this time around I assume so since I have not seen anyone use it.
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>>335310317
He does for Ithryll. If you tell Patches about Lothric he'll say something about it being a thieves' end or rumoured as such. To test to see if Greirat can be saved, I'm gonna clear it out til the boss and then tell Patches who has the onion knight armor on him.
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>>335310383
>not the Pain of Ages
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>>335310383
>not 3 rainbow smelter demons
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>>335310317
The official guide states he can't be saved in Lothric Castle, sadly.
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man I wish dragonslayer armor was ornstein. that would be cool. it wouldn't make sense though. is there any lore confirming it was based of him or his cronnies?
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>>335307716
They do it for the (You)s.
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When do you reckon we'll get news about the DLC?

Also, I never tried the DLC for past Souls game, not even Old Hunters (it's on my list next after this). How does it work in-game? Do i need to start a new character?
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>>335310643
>I never tried the DLC for past Souls game, not even Old Hunters
You, in THE CURRENT YEAR have STILL not gotten your shit kicked in by Manny, Arty and Kalameet?
And finally learned to git gud with Fume Knight?

HOW
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>>335310643
I really hope we get a Sunny Londor dlc. It bothers me everything is so grey
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>>335310643
It's usualy an item dropped right into iinventory ready to go (unless PtD/SotFS type deal where it's incorporated semi-naturally)
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>>335309892
Thats not greirats ashes, those ashes are always there.
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>>335310585
It's definitely linked to Ornstein somehow, there's way too much similarity in the armour design. I think one popular theory right now is that it was NK's armor and when he allied with the dragons he threw it away and it ended up being animated by the pilgrim butterflies
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>>335309920
The whole time travel multi-verse idea being canon is stupid. Fire emblem incorporated it to explain DLC and it's fucking ridiculous
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>>335310150
You, i like you.
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>>335310734
yeah some stuff came up around the time that came out, i just wasn't able to enjoy many games and had to focus on work/schooling, sadly.

>>335310771
Ah so it's something that triggers the dlc? I just am curious if i overlevel or get locked out of it somehow on my current characters.

>>335310765
i'd like for some nice changes for current areas, yeah, i always get a kick ut of seeing those type of things.
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Why is this guy the coolest NPC?
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He seems pretty chill
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>>335310958
>We go back in time in Dark souls 1 and 2
>It's only stupid now
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>>335311016
because that voice acting son
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Last word: FIRELINK ISN'T AN ILLUSION
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>>335310976
You just have to be past a certain point in the game, so long as you don't go into NG+ you can access them.
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>>335310884
maybe ornstein became a legendary hero among people in the dark souls universe. so the king decided to have a castle defence modeled after him.
is the lion face on the armor?
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>>335310976
You're in for treat with 1, 2 is pretty hit-miss.
And no, all DLC for souls can be played on the same character. Mid-Late game for both.
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>>335311016
Because he's got the BIGGEST WEAPON
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>>335311016
i could have sworn he was the actor who plays the dad in The Witch. Same type of awesome voice, but turns out it wasn;t. love the way he talks
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>>335310976
>I just am curious if i overlevel or get locked out of it somehow on my current characters.
It's easy to overlevel but it wouldn't lock you out.
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>>335309535
>It's fun having someone else fight for you.

nani
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>>335310643
For BB you get an item in the dream after defeating Vicar Amelia.
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>>335311016
>wasted his time escorting a dud
>isn't even mad

good lad
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>>335310960

I like you too anon. Unless you play games casually.

>using combos in fighting games

pffft
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>>335311170
>>335311159
>>335311239

thanks guys yeah playing this has me pumped, i will go back and try DaS1 dlc too
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>>335308050
>Obscuring Ring - It is said that Rosaria, the mother of rebirth, was robbed of her tongue by her firstborn, and has been waiting for their return ever since.
Fucking finally, forgot I hadn't grabbed all covenant rewards before that NG+
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>>335311187
Fucking pity it takes so much vitality to use both Morne's armour set and the mace. Both are radical.
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>>335303009
You are actually fucking retarded
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>>335311303
It's confirmed, being firstborn means your a dick. Lorian's about the only good firstborn and he's pretty lame.
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who?

>>335308037
it's just a little merchandise for the souls fans with a few extra chromosomes
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>>335308959
Faggot
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>>335311164
Hard to tell from what images google search shows but it doesn't look like it. It does have the plume though
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>>335310479
?
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>>335311193
Thought it was Letho myself, only not speaking with murrican accent.
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