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I mean, it COULD be good.
Im looking forward to it, but i still think persona 5 ia gonna be goty
>>334938908
>Cindy will never be a romance option
>They will never have sex scenes like Mass Effect to cause controversy
I'll just wait a decade or so for a PC port so we can get SFM porn.
>>334938908
Ask for her special service!
[GLASS HER]
>>334938908
Starfox could be good too
>its not
>>334938908
The only good thing would be cidney model on PC.
It could be good IF
They had toned down the boy band designs
Made a PC port day 1 so we wouldn't need to suffer 900p 20 fps gameplay
>>334938908
It will be good.
>>334939019
persona 5 releasing this year bahahaha
>>334939491
I can't remember the last time summons had me all excited.
>>334939019
In 2017, yeah.
>>334939491
I sure do love movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljy59nry5Lg
Complete gameplay from uncovered. Dunno how it got out be wish they'd upload a higher quality video already.
>>334940968
Can you imagine what Odin, Bahamut, and Ifrit will look like? I hope they bring in new summons too or cameos of older Final Fantasy.
>>334941850
Can you imagine whatfat chocobowould be like?
>>334941846
God am I glad they fixed the VFX when attack connects and also implemented proper hitstuns for smaller enemies.
That hitstop when fighting the behemoth looks much better, too
I'm only hoping the progession of the MC is implemented well, like in Kingdom Hearts 2.
I'd be bored looking at the same combo animations for the weapons over and over again.
>>334941149
At least they're going back to something simple instead of either making them OP as fuck like in 10 or almost unnecessary like 12 and 13.
>>334942497
>replayed ffxii in january
>only unlocked like 3 espers
I like the game, but the espers were meh. I liked Odin in FFIX.
>>334938908
⇒Fucking wreck that pussy
>>334941103
>>334940442
Didn't Atlus said it was gonna be released this fall?I doubt they would delay it again.
>>334941850
Shiva and Siren when?
>>334939019
>he thinks Persona 5 is gonna release this year
>>334943065
They are afraid of FF15.
>>334939098
>reasons for being in the bath for over an hour
>>334943389
If anything, FFXV would help P5 and vice versa.
>>334938908
Every game COULD be good.
>>334941846
I hope we get some good FF remixes for the car radio. Costa Del Sol wouldn't go amiss.
The cast looks awful, the world looks boring, the game's too busy pushing the envelope of GREAT GRAFUX to even bother with decent optimization or enjoyable combat, rich metrosexuals on a car saving the world premise is hardly relatable, they're trying really hard to conceal that Luna is now a shit character, probably the only good thing in the game is gonna be the soundtrack and even then it's a little bit too overdone and dramatic from everything that we've heard.
It's probably gonna be mediocre as fuck, just like every Final Fantasy in the past dozen years.
>>334943389
>He thinks P5 and FFXV are competitors
Yeah, because the market is just full of AAA JRPGs right.
>>334941846
It looks like B-roll footage, so I'm guessing some Chinese news site uploaded the whole thing way before any of the footage is allowed to be used.
>>334944185
It was originally shown at Uncovered, which also had leaks of Chinese origin. Presumably it's the same source.
>>334939416
It's as toned down as it get you closed fag
>>334944042
>rich metrosexuals on a car saving the world premise is hardly relatable
By that logic no FF game has a "relatable" premise.
>>334944478
FF4-6 characters are relatable
In 7 and 9, most of them are.
In 8 and 10, none of them are.
13 feels like it's about aliens.
Is this the tri-daily FFXV flame-war thread? I've been itching to waste eight straight hours of my life arguing armed with nothing but opinions.
>>334944816
So you're talking about characters, not premise.
>>334944816
>In 8 and 10, none of them are.
>Squall in 8
>An emo faggot who needs no friends and thinks he is better than everyone else but deep inside is insecure as fuck
/v/ definitely relates to that
>>334938908
>dowloaded platinum demo
>"please preorder"
>"game will be good we swear"
>"please preorder"
>"please preorder"
gave me a chuckle
>>334941846
This looks too good to be real honestly, the demo struggle to display a single room with a single enemy
>>334943286
Maybe in Japan.
XV-kun finally musters the courage to ask Kagari on a date. But will his autism get in the way? Or will they find common ground in FF?
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1461152031635.webm
Watch, as the exciting date of autists unfolds.
>>334938908
There's always that chance that something *could* be good. But 16 years of disappointing Final Fantasy and the state of Square-Enix now, the only good games I expect to see out of S-E anymore are Dragon Quest games because Yuji Horii directs those.
>>334945426
>the demo struggle to display a single room with a single enemy
The only time it "struggled" was either with the Fireworks spell or after killing the Iron Giant. That doesn't look unrealistic at all.
>>334945505
Alas, the date didn't go well. It would appear that a confrontation about Stella/Luna made Kagari reluctant and pushed XV-kun to the sides.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFo9Exd9q-E
XV-kun angrily returns home, ready to shill FFXV against any would-be Stella fans.
>>334945505
sauce?
>>334938908
Why japan sexualize everything?
>>334944478
This fallacy again?People have to stop pretending like having a party of only asian looking males was something normal in FF games, or in any JRPG for that matter.
Anyone else having trouble putting down Episode Duscae? Just beat it for the trillionth time yesterday, why is it so fucking comfy? Its like an HD Xenoblade on steroids. I've been grinding to try to kill that giraffasaurus without using Ramuh, and I've been travelling almost exclusively at night because it's pretty and there are more enemies. What's your favorite part about ED?
>>334946112
The point
------------
Your head
>>334946078
This retarded fucking argument again. Listen, is Noctis wearing proper gear to be in combat? Is he in full armor from tip to toe? No, he's not. Because even if that would be practical, it's not what's visually pleasing. If you hadn't noticed, a series like Final FANTASY favors style over practicality. It's a fantasy world. The developers have that freedom. And there is no reason to make a fantasy game as mundane and boring as everyday 9-5 to life.
>>334946112
People have to stop pretending that it's a bad thing
>>334946078
Why not?
>>334946283
>Rich metrosexuals on a car saving the world
Only game that a had a party, or premise remotely close to that was FF8 and even then, it wasn't even close to XV.
>>334946309
It is though.
>>334941846
Remind me again why you need chocobos when you have a car
>>334941846
Is Prompto okay?
>Noctis fixing his hair while running
hot
>>334945604
>That doesn't look unrealistic at all
This buttfuck every other games right now
>>334946581
>depth of field
There is no fucking good reason to use this. DoF appears as a natural artifact on cameras. A game cutscene has the advantage to do away with the DoF. Fuck. Can't wait for PC version so I can turn off retarded dev decisions.
>>334946078
>Japan
Humans sexualize everything, it's in our nature. Thing is that the west was completly pussyfied, so we have to pretend that our medium is pure and politically correct.
>>334946564
Can't go offroad with the car without ruining it
And it need fuel.
>>334946736
Meanwhile in the west, GTAV sells 50 million copies and we still treat like some fanservice from Japan for a niche audience is the disturbing part. SJWs are cancer. They just pick on easy targets.
>>334946850
>niche audience
I agree with you about the rest, but FF is one of the most popular franchises of all time.
>>334946078
I don't understand.
Why would anyone want ugly people in a videogame?
I'm ugly as fuck and I don't want to watch people like me when I play, that's why every famous actor is handsome.
>>334946248
>What's your favorite part about ED?
I really liked the way they built up to the behemoth, it wasn't just another enemy, you had to track it down, stalk it and come up with a plan to take it down together.
>>334946850
It's okay when america does it
>>334938908
>her panties actually cover more than her shorts
What's the point of the shorts then?
>>334946952
Compared to GTA, it's small. FFXV will maybe sell 1/5th of GTAV at the very most. SJWs don't mind kids playing murder simulators in millions but God forbid they see a pair of tits.
>>334946078
The Japanese are very repressed. They've got ridiculous work hours, don't get to see home too often (in the case of salarymen and businessmen anyway), are judged for fucking everything they do, they're even expected to do all the work while fucking. This and much more leads up to a very frustrated, sexually repressed nation that sexualizes literally everything.
>>334946972
SJWs and normalfags think handsome peoples are okay but fabricated, virtual handsome peoples are gross and creepy.
>>334946850
You're wrong anon, american culture is pure and not for lewd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs
>>334947053
>They've got ridiculous work hours, don't get to see home too often
So this is why they make good games.
Actually the FFXV director apparently sleep 3 hours a day
>>334947053
Meanwhile in America
>>334947157
The only difference is that in Japan, the men aren't vilified for enjoying a pair of tits. In the west, it's ok if you're a nigger or any other minority but as white man, you shouldn't be doing that "misogynistic" stuff. You think it's Japan being cucked when it's you being fucked in the ass.
>>334947048
Any game can be considered small compared to GTA V though. Not even Skyrim or CoD comes close to its sales. I'm just saying that FF is way too popular to be called niche.
Agree about the rest though.
>>334941846
Name of song at 2:45?
>>334947286
You know that things are fucked up when men are pretending to dislike women to be accepted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL1UzIK-flA
>260 million views
>not one feminist whines about it basically being softcore porn
>WHAT? A JAPANESE FANTASY GAME HAS TITS? BURKA THAT SHIT UP NOW!
>>334947510
Or when men pretend to like it when their wives go out and suck nigger dicks and come home that same night to kiss them with cum-stained lips.
No wonder west is being hijacked by muslims. Western men are basically begging for it.
>>334947258
>Actually the FFXV director apparently sleep 3 hours a day
That's not uncommon. While their official work hours aren't that bad, work might end at, say, 5 o' clock, their actual work hours are terrible. It's seen as rude to leave before your superiors, and if your boss is at the office until 10-12 at night, then so will the workers. Sure, they could leave, but Japan's a society that has insane values on being polite and a team player, you don't want to be seen as a selfish bastard in Japan. There's also the the whole "go on drinks with your boss after work" thing. That actually happens. If you don't do it, wave bye-bye to opportunities for advancement.
One of the upsides of working in Japan though is that since people spend so long at work, they can be slower about things and even sleep while they're there. Getting fired isn't as easy in Japan as it is elsewhere, your boss will probably bitch at you for sleeping at your desk, but you'll probably be there forever anyway.
>>334947552
The funniest part is that SJWs try to use the argument that ''it doesn't make sense for a mechanic to be wearing such clothes'' and yet, no one complains about Prompt fighting giant monsters with his bare chest. It's hilarious.
http://www.gameinformer.com/themes/blogs/generic/post.aspx?WeblogApp=features&y=2016&m=04&d=20&WeblogPostName=how-final-fantasy-xv-is-redesigning-your-favorite-monsters&GroupKeys=
>>334947552
Rihanna is a real woman.
Cidney is an object created by Japanese men.
>>334947443
The Sunleth Waterscape
>>334938908
People who want to like it are going to like it.
It's not going to be a big issue.
>>334947934
>Rihanna
She may be real, but the image that people have of her is as objectified and unreal as Cid.
>>334947552
Black women are disgusting.
Can't blame black men for preferring white girls.
>>334947828
The argument of practicality is only ever brought up when it's about something they don't like, not so much about it not being practical. If you play any FF game, you see characters never wear what is most practical. Fucking Cloud sports a sword that weighs more than him. Or Ass Creed Syndicate, SJW bait of the year, has a little frail girl beating the shit out of thugs five times her size. Is that realistic? Sure as fuck not. Will SJWs whine about that? Nope, because it panders to their ideals. It's really not about practicality. It's politics. As it always is with these parasites.
>>334946801
>ruining
How? As in real life physics or the car actually has a sort of "HP meter" in-game?
>>334948005
Thanks pham
>>334947934
So it's okay to objectify real women but not actual objects?
>>334947828
I don't even care about Cidney's retarded mechanic outfit. It's fanservicey to be sure, but it's not that bad, it reminds me of the mechanics/nurses in the original Ghost in the Shell manga; it's terribly unrealistic, but it's just a bit of fanservice that shows up now and then, and that's fine, light fanservice is fun.
I just wish S-E would be honest about it, that's all. No one in the world buys that "She's not supposed to be sexy, just energetic!" excuse.
>>334947931
New info? About damn time. It's already 3 a.m here.
>>334939416
Honestly, why do give a fuck about this?
The only criticism I've heard about this game is "waaah but they look gaaaay ;_;"
Which is ironic considering we're talking about a JRPG, a genre that has much more camp character designs than Noctis.
>>334947934
You're right. Cidney is an object. Not a real thing. Therefore applying morals fit for real living human to an object is not only ridiculous, but borderline mentally insane.
Has the interview with Tabata and Sakaguchi been translated yet?
>>334938908
But she really is a whore?
>>334948191
Apparently it does
>>334947552
Jesus christ, that fucking auto-tune.
>>334947931
>The team even went as far as to map out its bone and muscle structure, thoroughly examining its movement and shape. The inspirations for the bone structure came from giraffes, elephants, and rhinoceroses. “In order to support its long neck while searching for food, it uses its tenacious front leg muscles, long backbone, and low center of gravity to balance its neck like a suspension bridge while walking,” says artist Chihiro Hashi. It even has several large ears that it can flap to control its body temperature.
>>334948246
I personally don't mind camp designs. I do mind that they're just outright bland and generic designs. I can barely tell them apart. If they had the same hair colour, I probably couldn't.
They all wear exactly the same clothes and colour schemes. That is a massive no-no design-wise, unless they're in a band or something stupid like that. Which even if they are, they'd wear street clothes too.
>>334948420
>Sakaguchi: Kitase a shit! A SHIT!
>End
>>334948448
Holy shit.
>>334948191
Not sure how exactly but the car can get damaged.
>>334947934
So?Women are a object created by men anyway, their entire existence revolves around trying to appeal to men and their entire value still comes from how good their husband is.
This new generation is trying to deny biology, but the funny thing is that women themselves crave for it, despite their attempts to deny it.
>>334948739
Remember when Emma Watson went to the UN to complain about sexual fixation while dating a model?
>>334948225
Literally every company in the world does this, anon. It's called PR, not their fault that the west annoys the hell out of them with this.
>>334947552
jesus christ
>>334948884
What they should be saying is "We made them to look as visually pleasing as possible considering the fantasy context". I think that's the best way of saying that if you don't like it, then look away bitch. SE is bad at PR desu
>>334948884
Yeah I know. I may understand dishonesty but it's something that always bugged me. Not because I think it's wrong or anything, I just wish people would learn to deal with reality. And yes, I've got to learn how to deal with the reality of lies.
>>334948225
That was a problem with the translation.
In Japan the words erotic and sometimes sexy primarily describe the character of a person, so when they said she wasn't meant to be erotic they weren't even PRing
>>334948246
Not him but GENERALLY, the MC is the only character who looks really gay in JRPGs.
Also, as the other guy said, the real problems comes from the fact that the party looks really bland and generic, it's no wonder that there's so many people complaining about this aspect. For one, i'm still wondering about why the fuck SE decided to make such a terrible marketing decision, making a party without any females or without any variation is literally suicide in a RPG.
>>334948225
There's nothing wrong with Cidney at all. But the cutscene direction everytime she appears in Duscae is seriously overdone at showing her assets, not even ecchi anime do this, it looks ridiculous honestly.
I say this as huge revealing outfit fetishist
>>334949018
Japans are generally bad at PR when it comes to complains from the west. They aren't really used to this kind of stuff
>>334938908
Ask for sex.
>>334943065
Yfw original release date was winter 2015
>>334949550
>>334940442
>>334941103
>According to N4BB, Persona 5 was rumored to be delayed once more, but Atlus immediately thwarted all the claims aside. The entire team development has planned for the game to release by summer this year
>Read more at http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles/38832/20160316/persona-5-possible-release-date-happening-this-may-games-plot-discussed-by-atlus.htm#FdzLFkrGxw7X2h0k.99
>>334949550
wasn't it 2014?
>>334949312
It's pretty dumb, I honestly felt the same about XII, and it turned me off quite a bit. Only interesting character was Fran, and even then they were kinda shitty. What's the point of an Ivalice game if you don't get anything but humes in your party?
>>334938908
>ask for my friends
>you dont have any
>calmly walk back into your house and suicide
>game over
damn, final fantasies are getting so realistic
>Nier 2
>Dark Souls 3
>P5
>FFXV
>Ys VIII
>Third chapter of Trails in the sky will probably get transleted
>Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
2016 is looking really good for JRPGs;
>>334938908
Best girl is going to save it
>>334950473
Also Star Ocean 5. But I'll take one game at the time so I'm not felt disappointed. So far we're off to a very good start with DaS3. Great game.
It'll be a good game.
>>334949172
Yeah I know, it's エロい. Even かわいい can be translated a variety of ways, but I've only seen the English interview.
>>334950034
>Only interesting character was Fran,
>Every protagonist looks like one of those retarded weeaboos at my school with a fucking stupid tryhard haircut
This shit was acceptable 10 years ago.
Now it's just tacky.
And pretty much the only reason why i won't be playing this game.
Remove the combat and just make it walking simulator. I'd genuinely enjoy that.
>>334950473
Ni-Oh
First english SRW in almost a decade
>>334950827
I only continued playing the game for the hunts and bestiary entries. The story and characters all held zero appeal to me.
>>334950853
Even then I think we were starting to move past that shit, at least western nations were. Too bad they took ten years to make the game.
>>334947552
>we let this happen
>this is socially acceptable now
>>334949980
Japanese release maybe but it will be awhile before its released in the west
>>334950853
Tasteless faglord
>>334941850
Here's your list of summons
>knights of the round
>>334951090
Keep telling yourself that while every of your asian waifus friendzone you
>>334951076
It was almost confirmed that we will get a global release. People need to understand that P5 is releasing with much, much more hype(and ambition) than P4 did.
>>334939098
>SFM Porn of Cidney
...this is a good thought, a very good thought.
>>334951274
Just fuck off and blow some muscular bald men already.
>>334951259
There's also this, if you can figure out what Amano's drawings represent.
>>334950953
>first english SRW in over a decade
Honestly more excited for this than for anything else. Final Fantasy comes close but SRW has always had a soft spot in my heart.
>>334951443
RED MOON
>>334951537
>moon
>>334938908
>no "ask for a blowjob" option
DRIGGITY DROPPED
>>334951697
Moon
>>334951714
>no turn around 720 degrees and walk away option
>>334942267
This looks a lot better than PD. But you can still see it uses the same automatic controls bullshit.
Why can't the controls be manual?
Why isn't that forward step manually triggered with a button?
Why that button holding shit that makes the game feel passive as shit?
wtf are they doing? I'm so pissed. Literrally everyone is screaming at them to not fuck up and what do they do? They do all sorts of weird shit to simple action game mechanics just for the sake of being special and accessible, which makes the game actually NOT accessible.
>>334951804
>moon
>>334951714
What if it's a hidden option?
>>334951942
This is the problem when you make a game intended for EVERYONE. Eventually it stops being appealing to anyone. SE is insecure. They're so desperate now that they don't dare take risks with the mainstream audience. Meanwhile Dark Souls is finding huge success in sticking to a core gameplay that might not be very accessible but is really fun to play. But then again,Witcher 3 sold a lot with a barely playable gameplay so who knows.
>>334939098
>Cindy
kek
her name is officially Cidney in Japanese, it's only the US subtitles that changed it to Cindy.
>>334952074
Moon
>>334951942
I like the combat system, but the hold button system is not great. I know people will tell me that you can tap the button, but that won't change anything since the whole animations are based arond hlding it, you can easily tell because the hits are not really connected and can't naturally end quickly after one hit. It has the KH BBS syndrom
>>334951942
I think I preferred when this looked like a more grounded Kingdom Hearts desu. Say what you like about KH combat but at least you feel in control.
>>334952231
I still can't believe that they changed her name from Cidney to Cindy. That's some 90s level localization shit. It's shit like this that makes me glad I started studying Japanese three years ago.
>>334941846
>that summon
>that spear for long range teleportation
Seriously why are people complaining about the combat? I love turn based as much as the next guy but it can feel really dated especially with modern games. I don't see a problem with final fantasy trying something new
>>334939019
>persona
>game of the ANYTHING
FF15-kun is already delusional enough.
We don't need another crazy person in here!
>>334952175
>This is the problem when you make a game intended for EVERYONE. Eventually it stops being appealing to anyone.
This desu. I don't understand it either. Casuals don't give a fuck about such details, so why not make a good action game catered to hardcore gamurs, and slap on some automatic system afterward for the casuals? Why the other way around? Casuals literally DO NOT CARE about those details. They don't care how it plays, as long as it makes them feel cool.
Bayonetta auto controls do that as well. Why not do that? Someone prove me wrong pls.
>>334938908
Gibs me pussey plox.
>>334952560
I don't know
Even KH did it. I just hate that you can tell that every hit is seperate like in KH BBS, since the combat system was intended you have different weapons in one combo
>>334952482
>Seriously why are people complaining about the combat?
My biggest problem is the button holding thing. Weapon switching and other stuff don't make it too noticeable but I still don't like it.
>>334952337
I like it too, but it needs a lot of small changes to make it feel like it's actually worth anyone's time. Simple things like that targetting system preventing any sort of directional control, or all sorts of flashy shit happening that feels like one long animation when you just hold the button for a few seconds.
I can't imagine someone playing that and going "oh hey, that makes sense".
Ergo, they are being retarded on purpose. I'm fucking calling it. square enix is being retarded on purpose and the full game will have normal controls. There is no other explanation.
>>334952560
Unfortunately, I see it as Tabata mark. Both Crisis Core and Type-0 had questionable combat systems. He's no Itsuno, that's for sure. Can't believe DD still isn't the template for combat in ARPG's yet.
>>334952791
>I just hate that you can tell that every hit is seperate like in KH BBS
But they're not. Hold the button and you get a long string of attacks.
Don't you mean that you have to wait for the entire animation to be over before you can do something else? That's what I noticed in BBS compared to KH2
>>334952482
XII was trying something new, this is just using Kingdom Hearts combat.
>>334953139
I feel that XII's combat was actually kinda nice and comfortable. It emphasized planning over reaction so if you were smart with gambits, you could just sit back and watch your party wreck a boss while you occasionally micro-manage. It was surprisingly rewarding setting up good gambit systems.
>>334938908
Can't wait to replace all the faggy character models of the main cast with Cindy.
>>334953060
I think Dark Souls is a better template, but it does require good balance to be effective.
>>334952560
Unfortunately, the people making these decisions are so far removed from reality that they may as well be a different specifies. They get all their design ideals from misguided conjecture and selective testing.
>>334953285
I agree, the gambit system was an idea ahead of it's time.
>>334953139
>this is just using Kingdom Hearts combat.
I wish it was, copy pasting KH combat would be an improvement over this holding the button bullshit.
>>334952968
>square enix is being retarded on purpose and the full game will have normal controls.
They did say the game would have an easier combat system and a normal one so maybe they've been showing off that one all this time.
>>334953329
>That feel when your four Cindeys have man voices
>>334953060
CC and type-0 were retarded. But 3rd birthday actually had nicely tweaked mechanics, even if they were a bit restrictive and the moveset was small.
DD was good, but the amount of skill slots is unacceptable.
If you're going action game, hybrid with RPG or no, it needs to have a large moveset. Anything else is unacceptable anno 2016, because you have action game fans playing as well.
>>334953329
Just admit you're gay already, noone will think less of you. Hell /v/ is full of closet gays like you.
>>334953512
*the easier one
Knowing SE this is probably the normal one though.
>>334939102
That never turns out well.
>>334945505
top lel
>>334953335
DD is a better template for FFXV since DD is faster paced with greater magic and party influence than DaS. I bet SE feels really stupid now spending so much time making a very accessible combat system while the masses are flocking to DaS3 now.
>>334953701
I honestly can't even figure out how you'd make this combat easier.
>>334953780
well, in this particular instance I'd say DD would be a better template with party members and whatnot, but I was talking in general
>>334950863
You're retarded.
Why does Cindy wear the thong?
>>334938908
Does the game have gear slots? If so how many and do they affect how your character looks?
I know it's not a big thing, but it matters to me.
>>334953512
>They did say the game would have an easier combat system and a normal one so maybe they've been showing off that one all this time.
I've looked into this. There was a patent about it, which mentioned a combat system with automatic controls and a "normal" mode which would use a "plethora of buttons" for special attacks.
The thing is that I can't imagine how this is the easy control scheme in terms of button combinations. I don't know why but I'm having trouble seeing it. Especially since a more manual control scheme would require a lot of changes to the targetting mechanics, and automatic attack distancing, that I feel are a huge overhaul for just another control scheme type.
The mechanics seem flawed at the core of the game, and I just don't see how they are going to fix that unless they reprogram the entire thing.
>>334945505
holy fuck I can't breathe
>>334953947
Because it's hot and girls like to be hot.
>>334946078
Life is shit, why shouldn't we improve it like that?
It's funand wearing those sexualized cosplays always makes me feel super powerful. It's amazing
>>334938908
>not the edit
>>334954105
So literally just weapons and nothing else then?
That's seriously disappointing. Cosmetics wise i wouldn't even mind but finding hear is a part of the game I enjoy.
>>334954245
And accessories and attires
>>334954030
They're probably talkinga bout hold the button as the "easy" version and using directional inputs as the "normal" version
But you can already tell just from the demo that some of the bosses will be really unbalanced simply because it lacks controls over your character sometimes. You could play through KH2 on lvl with starting gear without takking damage if you knew what you were doing, i doubt we will see somthing like this in XV unless you want to teleport away everytime the enemy is doing an attack
The fact that the auto dodge system doesn't dodge every attack and the the dodge roll has pretty much no inv frames doesn't help either and pressing the dodge button at the right time is still not perfect since it just leaves your hitbox in the enemies attack leaving you open for another one
>>334954449
It's depressing that SE feels the need to make a combat system easier than a game released a decade ago intended for kids.
>>334952546
>He doesn't think that P5 will be GOTY
Found the pleb.
>>334954449
>The fact that the auto dodge system doesn't dodge every attack and the the dodge roll has pretty much no inv frames doesn't help either and pressing the dodge button at the right time is still not perfect since it just leaves your hitbox in the enemies attack leaving you open for another one
According to GI the efficiency of the dodge is something you can upgrade on level up, PD Noctis' is pretty much lvl 1 and it's hard to tell what will be improved on level up
>>334954657
Is still think that's pretty bad, upgrading skills that deal damage etc. is fine, but upgrading things like a dodge roll or a parry that should only rely on the players reaction time is stupid. You get guard and roll pretty much right away in KH and it never changes and it always works. Now you know that you'll have a worse version of defensive moves until you level them up
>>334952452
>when this looked like a more grounded Kingdom Hearts
What do you mean?
>>334954449
Episode duscae type auto weapon switching is probably the easy mode. And PD type manual switching is probably the normal mode.
In a perfect world though, square is using various versions of the game to slowly train people at using a combat system that will be quite complex in the final game.
I agree with you otherwise. I feel most people here are annoyed by the same things. square needs to give us a heads up tomorrow. They need to be fair and tell us what it's going to be like.
>>334947934
Go back to Tumblr and stay there
>>334948190
As an American, people here have this weird double standard. My reasoning is that they see people who like cute anime girls who are mostly 16-17 years of age and think those people are sick fucks. However when you sexualize minors in say Nick or Disney Channel shows its totally ok.
Nudity is a major no no here, hence why its censored on tv, because the parents television council, which is run by a far right Cuckservative who supports Ted Cruz, hold major sway. However, they seem to have no problem with excess gore and violence on TV. They have never once gone after The Walking Dead, but they went after Skins when it was on MTV big time, so much so they managed to get it cancelled.
The problem is, bible thumping Evangelicals are major players here, despite being on the most loathed religious groups in the US
>>334955042
Like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7MwTXYLpg
>>334955095
Would that even work at this point though? Like auto weapon switching mid ai and shit and the abilites of the weapons could break the game in auto switch mode
>>334954892
>You get guard and roll pretty much right away in KH and it never changes and it always works.
You still have to have to upgrade things like counterattacks, recoveries and Drive form abilities, so this is just the same thing.
>>334955240
I still like how Noctis automaticly tracks the airborne enemy. Now it feels like you're either on theg round or in the air, but it should be a little more seemingly
>>334954892
I like the idea more as an RPG fan than a action game fan, the game's giving you a choice how you want to level up, i didn't have that much trouble with the dodge so i won't think twice about upgrading my offense
Plus there's the shield anyway
>>334954595
Automata is GOTY.
>>334955447
I hope the shield will be an endgame weapon or will have it's limits because it would be OP and would look stupid to just parry huge ass enemies like the behemoth no problem
>>334954892
>>334954657
I think that is pretty cool. But the dodge system in PD has some logic behind it:
>You can only hold to dodge if you're not attacking, even if you keep holding it until after the attack, you need to repress the button after the attack has ended for it to work.
>To dodge during an attack you need to time pressing the dodge button perfectly and even if you did, you need to keep holding the button because sometimes one attack hits twice while it normally does not.
>Of course because of the input delay you need to time your shit earlier as well.
To me nothing about that sounds like it has anything to do with upgradable i-frames, or dodging speed. It sounds like weirdly specific mechanics. I have my doubts.
>>334955509
Hopefully they'll take their time with it. I don't want another 6 hours game without any sidequests like most Platinum games
>>334955240
>You will never get to play Versus XIII
>>334955538
Presumably stronger enemies will have attacks that are either very hard to shield parry or are straight up immune to them. We already know cactuars can dodge warp strikes so it's not outwith the realm of reason.
>>334955634
don't worry, since it's nier/drakengard it will be padded to hell and back
>>334955712
You will. This september.
>>334955550
They really need to put their time into optimizing it though. I know people will tell me that there's no input lag for some reason, but there definitely is and the fact that it doesn't run at a locked 30 and has framepacing issues make it even worse. It's the same with Dark Souls 3 which almost runs at a locked 30, but has input lag and sometimes feels like it's running at 20 fps because of the framepacing
>>334955634
Taro Yoko already said that the game will retain the RPG elements from the first Nier. Platinum games is only handling the gameplay, the story and game structure are all Taro's department.
>>334955634
This new character looks so cool compared to other protagonists from Taro games.
>>334955864
No I won't.
>>334955098
Also this brings me back to the Nipplegate fiasco back in 2004 at Super Bowl XXXVIII. If this happened in say the UK or other places in Europe, they wouldn't really give a shit and they would find it hilarious. However in the US it was such a big deal it was brought to the attention of the US Government. In fact, that one incident got MTV permanently banned from producing half time shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyIn6eay9Mw
Yes, a fucking Congresswoman fucking cried over Nipplegate
>>334955870
>the fact that it doesn't run at a locked 30 and has framepacing issues make it even worse
PD isn't the most recent build of the game and the framepacing issue only affects the PS4 version of the game so for all we know it could already be fixed.
>>334955254
Why would an auto switching mode break the air combat? It would just do dpad presses automatically based on what weapon you had set on which attack state (attack states meaning crush, ravage, etc.)
>>334955240
>>334955446
Actually that looks kind of nice, but I do think there needs to be a difference in air and ground attacks, which does not seem to be the case from that video.
Can someone explain this Stella meme to me?Although not regularly, I've been coming to FFXV threads ever since 2014 and I still don't get it
>>334956128
Yes, she compared the Enron scandal to this.
>>334955870
I agree. Look down and the fps increases, along with the responsiveness of the controls. It's tied to framerate.
>>334956218
Still needs fixing
>>334956067
this nigga doesnt think caim is the coolest.
>>334955098
>Anime is full of fanservice and boobs, only sick fucks watch this!
>Hey, look at this amazing Game of Thrones episode!!It's so mature and deep, I love this show!
Americans, not even once.
>>334956254
FFXV used to be known as FF Versus XIII. Stella was a major character in Versus XIII's plot, which was originally planned to have sequels. When the game went from being Versus XIII to XV, they changed some of the plot around to fit it into a single game and Stella was one of the things they couldn't fit into XV's plot.
>>334956397
Caim is the most based MC, not the coolest.
>>334956254
She was Stella back in V13 and is now Luna and they changed her appearance and character a bit.
We don't really know anything about Stella, but she was more like a rival + childhood friend character juding from the early trailers and they had to fight because war and shit. The core story probably hasn't changed that much, but i doubt we will fight against Rapier Luna and all that
>>334956613
And why people complain so much about it?The game didn't even got released, how do you get attached to a character from a game that didn't even came out?
>>334955870
not to damage control but i think the platinum demo was just not optimisized at all since it was made by like 3 people seperate from the main team and build, i think especially with the game being 6 months away and in beta (not pre beta) stage since like january or some shit that they will be able to get most of the kinks out.
it would be a shame if a game with so much work put into it gets devalued just cause the framerate takes you out of it. then again i suffered through drakengard 3 and still "loved" it (Stockholm syndrome to taro) so id probably still like XV if the story was decent enough
>>334956254
A character back from when this game was Versus XIII for some reason had to be dropped while repurposing the game into FFXV.
It'll definitely sell millions of copies. That's a guarantee. I don't know if it will sell 10 million worldwide, but it will absolutely sell 5m, maybe more.
Plus, the Platnium Demo was fun and I'm interested in the story. So it could be my GOTY.
>>334956254
Stella was the original girl from Final Fantasy Versus XIII. In that game, what we knew was that she would be tied to Noctis, but also an antagonistic character, fighting on the side of Noctis' enemies. When the game became Final Fantasy XV, they changed the character from Stella to Lunafreya, Noctis' betroved. A lot of people feel that Luna is a step down from the badass villain with a personal tie to Noctis, but others feel Luna, being an Oracle of the gods and a key to saving the world from the Endless Night, is a better character. In reality, we don't know what Stella's character was going to be, and since the game isn't out, we don't know much else about Luna, either, so it's too early to find out.
>>334956691
Instead we'll fight against Kaioken Luna when the moon turns red
>>334956627
>He's not both
>>334956627
i dont know, wiping out an entire army single handidly is pretty fucking cool, then going on to kill fucking death and not even be defeated once in the sequel despite being the main antagonist is also pretty fucking cool.
>>334956527
As an American I apologize deeply for this. Our double standards here are insane. Only good thing is that owning actual hentai doujins are fine, though its sort of a gray zone. Meaning the police might look into it in certain states, but they almost never charge you at all. They honestly don't think its a big deal unless its real life CP.
>>334956748
>at all since it was made by like 3 people
At first it was 7 people
Then it got reduced to 5
Now it's 3
Soon enough Platinum Demon will be a freak of nature that came from fucking nothing
>>334956732
"muh headcanon"
>>334956856
Don't worry, anon. At least you're not as bad as UK.
>>334956748
I thought it was 7 people? Then 5, now 3?
I know, but it's the only thing we can really judge for now
I just hope they'll fix it, i usually don't need the perfect framerate, but in an ARPG a locked 30 along with no framepacing issue would be nice to have. Dark Souls 3 sometimes goes into slowmo for like 2 seconds because of the framepacing even though it's still running at 30fps
>>334954245
attire and accessories not sure if blind or trying to shitpost
>>334956928
i was pulling the number out of my ass but i know it was in the single digits anon dont get you panties in a twist over it, the point was its made by barely anyone in a small amount of time and it shows, i think PD was a stupid decision and they should of just released a debug mode where you can fight hordes of goblins and other duscae monsters with the improved combat from duscae
>>334955712
september you will :)
>>334956856
In America, you can do anything you want as long as you don't hurt others, but you'll be judged (unless you're on Pubic Television channels, in which case you're the government's bitch.)
In Japan, you can also do anything you want that doesn't hurt others, but you'll be judged (Unless you're on Public Television channels, in which case you're the Government's bitch.)
There should be a club of countries where people can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt others. It can be the US, Japan, Switzerland and New Zealand. Maybe France. No one else.
>>334957023
I thought the UK was fine with nudity and cursing on TV
>>334956732
to play devil's advocate, versus 13 as a whole was sort of in a limbo that was dangled in front of us for a good part of 7 years and people held onto whatever they could get, it led to headcannon based off the 15 or so minutes of footage we ever saw of it between cgi cutscenes and one gameplay teaser, the combination of so little to go off of with so much time in between them really led to people making assumptions and hyping the game up as some big romeo and juliet kind of story.
it is a little annoying now that the game is coming out that people almost religiously hold onto that head cannon as fact
>>334949980
>game will be delay right?
>no its coming out soon
>when is it coming out then?
>cant tell you just soon but it will come out this year
>its already Q4 its not coming out right?
>no its soon
>nope the game is delay
Same shit again
>>334956775
Realistically speaking, it'll probably sell around 7 million. If we were to be optimistic, it can sell around 8 or 10 million but that depends on how good the reviews of the game are, and how big the word of the mouth effect will be. Meaning that it depends on whether the game will be received by fans and critics or not.
>>334957249
France I think is allowed to get away with sexual shit on TV. These are actual commercials shown on public TV there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0nm-9PTPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck14LKBI9GM
>>334957374
that moment you realize persona 5 is becoming the new versus 13
>>334957374
Yeah anon, they will delay their biggest game to date AGAIN because they just love to lose money.
They're probably preparing something good to show along with the release date.
>>334956732
Versus XIII as a whole was held in very high regard because it was representing a return to form, and I think there's a view that the changes made as it became XV are a betrayal to the fans who'd been waiting for it.
The problem is, Versus was like 80% shit that Nomura said in interviews (a lot of which is actually still in XV in some fashion) and 20% actual footage, which is why it became this perfect specimen of an FF title. It was largely just hype.
>>334957570
>>334957374
Stop being so melodramatic, the game started development in 2012 and was only delayed 2 two times since then. It's pretty similar to Witcher 3 if you stop to think about it, only difference being that Atlus doesn't like to spoil content as much as CDPR.
>>334957495
Good on France, they can join the Freedom Five.
I would say Iceland could join and become the Six States, but some shit is going down over there right now, so probably not.
>>334938908
Was underwhelmed by the demo but it was a barely passable tutorial, there's a different one that people played right? Did you guys like that one?
>>334957338
not with the huge muslim population now
>14 hours
>>334957787
>Did you guys like that one?
It's okay. Doesn't do a good job of teaching you how to play beyond the basic controls though.
>>334938908
>Ask for a discount
>Ask for a loan
>Ask my friends
UH
YOU DON'T GET TO BRING FRIENDS
>>334957787
Duscae was overall way better, but also doesn't explain everything and didn't have the new combat system yet
>>334957837
>Anime character wearing human skin
When is this art style going to die?
>>334957787
Episode Duscae, yeah. People generally liked that one, but it had different combat mechanics (Auto weapon switching, so the Platinum Demo improved in that aspect, giving you more control over your combos.)
It was fun, but that was a build from last year, so it's unlikely to be representative of the final game.
>>334938908
>>334957787
ED is better, despite being a far earlier build. The combat in PD is far superior but ED is much more efficient at giving you an overall feel of what the game's going to be. It's really more a sneak preview than an actual demo.
>>334945505
>>334956254
It's okay. She's dead now. Hopefully she'll return as Tifa.
>>334945505
fucking goldmine
Scores and sales predicament?
My bet is 8 million after one year, 85 on metascore and 80 on the user score.
Screencap this.
This is a nice thread.
>>334958182
>ED is much more efficient at giving you an overall feel of what the game's going to be
I liked the dream sequence idea PD did but I agree with this. IMO they should've released PD first and ED after Uncovered.
>>334958548
After the 5 threads in a row a couple days ago this is amazing.
>>334958518
Everyone will be drawn in by the advertizing and world/cities, and will get 90s or so despite awful combat, just like Witcher 3
>>334957452
>>334958518
I don't know, it's possible 10m will be easier than we all think.
Look at Metal Gear Solid. That shit is niche and weeb as fuck, but it sold 5 or six million copies easily, almost all from PS4 and Xbone sales. Now this legacy series, that had one of the most well known games of all time, is going the same route. It's probably going to do gangbusters.
>>334938908
No, it won't.
>>334958548
You can tell when a FFXV is good when it's not reaching 500 posts in an hour
I hope the ATR in 14 hours doesn't just recap Uncovered, and nothing else.
>>334958949
Most likely, that's probaby the reason why it's jap only.
>>334958949
It's gonna be a recap.
>>334958548
No XV-kun in sight that's why
>>334958548
Let's destroy it.
There's going to be at least 1 gay guy in the group. Who is it going to be?
>>334947053
The people who play games in Japan are kids and NEETs, not salarymen. It's just making games to a bunch of horny teens and manchildren, nothing more.
>>334959167
The player
>>334959040
>>334958949
What the fuck. No new combat info? fuck this shit. I'm out.
>>334959132
He must be busy trying to break into Kagari's house.
>>334959040
>>334959067
aww gay I was kinda hype too
when are they on during PAX?
>>334959040
They had their uncovered stream too.
>>334958518
90+ metascore, 80ish user score.
6 million copies sold by end of fiscal year 2017.
>>334959278
there very well could be
they'll probably recap uncovered and show new shit like they used to recap previous ATRs and show new shit
>>334955098
>conservatives only
No, it's the left as well. Also, cuckservatives doesn't make sense, they seem the least likely to be so.
>>334959237
kek
>>334959067
Weren't they going to talk about the "2 modes" you can switch between at all times?
>>334959427
>jojo
Those are gun slinging motions, you STUPID fucking showfag.
>>334958719
>MGS
>niche
MGS is one of the most popular franchises of vidya, just like FF. I'm astonished that some people seem think that these series are niche now.
Anyway, MGS games always sold at least 4 million copies, 1 sold 6 million, 2 sold 6 million and 4 sold 6 million, so it isn't surprising that V sold around that margin. As for FF, it used to sell around 6 to 10 million in the past, but the series lost much of its prestige and popularity since then. However, it's safe to say that people are pretty hyped for a new FF game considering that the last single player one released almost a decade ago. Not to mention that SE is spending a fortune on marketing, is trying to release a bunch of FF games on PC to seek new audiences and is also trying to appeal to the western audience, the biggest drawback that XV has is the fact that Japan doesn't care about console gaming as it did in the past, VII sold 4 million copies there and XIII sold 3 million, but I doubt that FFXV will sell anything close that number.
>>334959278
E3's less than 2 months off and they're intending to have demos of the actual game at future events, so you can expect more around then probably.
>>334959181
>The people who play games in Japan are kids and NEETs, not salarymen.
Japanese adults play games too, they just hide that information more than we do. There's this Japanese woman I talk to and she's happy to talk about video games with me, but says she doesn't really let her other friends, most of which are moms now too, know about it because they'd "smile and then silently take me of their friends list".
No, she's not a salaryman, but I also talk to one of them who's a video game nerd.
>>334959427
Wait wait wait.
I thought you could only control Noctis.
Why does that make it look like you're Ignis?
>>334959303
>when are they on during PAX?
I'd like to know as well. If they even are at PAX.
>>334959745
You give them commands and it switches to their perspective while they carry them out.
>>334959745
You can equip pecific abilities to party members that you activate via a command, that makes the camera shift to them while they perform it
>>334959745
That's just for special attacks.
Just how big is the map?
>>334958518
92 Metascore
85 User Score
Sell 5 millions top
>>334959745
You control Noctis in real-time and the rest through menu based commands
>>334959745
You can use party member abilities via Noctis, the camera switches to the relevant member when you do so.
>>334959745
camera moves to the person you make do an ability
>>334959921
>Sell 5 millions
No way in hell that it'll sell worse than XIII
>>334959904
From my calculations.
>>334959850
>>334959886
>>334959902
>>334959921
>>334959956
>>334959958
Oh, that's pretty cool. That actually seems really like the ATB system is in place for the other three, but Noctis has Real time battle?
>>334957750
>only delayed 2 two times
a delay in general is a bad sign, 2 is worse, a rumored and more and more likley 3rd one is development hell
>>334959613
good thing it was announced today that ffxv preorders have surpassed ffxiii preorders in japan ;)
>>334959745
Did you know...
that, well...
...the camera changes perspectives when using party abilities?!
>>>>334959904
Several times bigger than GTAV
>>334960034
>The island formation on northeast
That's some end-game shit, calling it now
>>334960081
For these specific attacks, yeah, there's a meter that fills over time and you use it to activate their ability
However making your party members use a item isn't tied to said "ATB" gauge
>>334960170
Really? I'm interested in seeing those numbers, where's your source?
>>334960086
>Bad sign
Not really, like I said Witcher 3 was delayed two times. At least is a sign that they're polishing the game.
>and more likley 3rd
>likely
What makes you say that?It's much more likely that they're holding information to release it along with another trailer/gameplay footage.
>>334959904
According to the Devs, this is accurate.
>>334960170
>>334960241
That means nothing. Pre-orders are much more popular now than they were at the time that XIII was released.
>>334960081
Pretty much, you can see the orange bar is basically the party's ATB bar here >>334959850
>>334959904
>>334960034
>>334960135
>>334960383
786 square miles
14x bigger than GTAV and Witcher 3
>>334958518
Metascore will be in the mid 80's-early 90's range and the user score will be slightly lower. It'll probably sell 6-7 million, MAYBE 8.
>>334960447
That makes me think two things
1. The map will be empty
2. They are lying
>>334960383
>According to the Devs
Wasn't that just Dualshockers guesstimating? There's just no way it'll be that big, that's bullshit.
>>334960081
Effectively yeah, they act based on AI when not being issued commands and just use basic attacks.
>>334960383
Really? That seems absurdly huge, when did they say that?
>>334960332
>What makes you say that?It's much more likely that they're holding information to release it along with another trailer/gameplay footage
>>334957374
its an exact repeat of the past 2 times, also witcher 3's delays were no where near as long and ardulous as persona 5's have been.
face it, something is going wrong with 5's development, when famitsu was posting messages from developers to their fans about 2016 the director of persona 5 even says halfheartedly that the game would HOPEFULLY release this year.
>>334960420
>Makes a claim
>Gets refuted with evidence
>"That evidence doesn't count"
Bullshit. Pre-orders were insanely popular when FFXIII released, too. The only difference is that there are more people buying games, so there are more people preordering.
>>334960447
This sounds highly unlikely. I bet 50% of it is filled with water and mountains
>>334960535
Most of the map will probably just be mountains like older FF overworlds
>>334960535
i think the whole size comparison to other games was made by a website, not the devs.
>>334960535
>>334960447
Another interesting question is if the map will wrap around if you go off the sides.
>>334960535
A website came up with the number based on some math and in game released info. its accurate. But as for if the map will be all accessible or locked with barriers or if its just empty..we will see.
This game is over 10 years in the making so I fucking hope its not empty.
>>334960383
The world map might be that big but I think you can only really explore 40% of it. Doubt you'll ever get to go on all those mountains.
>>334960862
4 years
But i doubt it will be packed with shit. Probably a few monsters every now and the mabe some caves and roads. But most of it will be water and mountains. I don't think open world was the best idea
>>334960749
Facts aren't bait, Anon.
>>334956750
well i think it originally should have been a romeo/juliet kinda story ( which you can see pretty well in the vs13 trailer)
but then they did a 180 and make it standard bullshit boytrip story
>>334960717
Considering they're doing Zidane's Mage Mashers and Lightning's gunblade thing as preorder bonuses elsewhere, I'm slightly bummed that the Masamune isn't specifically Sephiroth's.
>>334960629
>Evidence
It isn't evidence though. You need to learn to interpret information, just to give you a example, Destiny was more pre-ordered than GTA V, but the later sold MUCH more. Pre-order doesn't mean shit, especially when we're talking about games that are being released at two completely different times.
>Pre-orders were insanely popular when FFXIII released, too.
You're either bullshiting, or you've no idea what you're talking about. Pre-orders got a MASSIVE growth in popularity after 2010 and became more popular than ever after 2014. Do you want me to post statistics?
>>334961035
good because romeo and juliet sucks
>>334960420
dont forget ffxv was the most preordered game on amazon for 2 weeks straight after the uncovered event the number one spot was the deluxe edition and number 2 spot was the standard $60 this game is going to sell sry if you dont think so.
>>334961035
this is an example of headcannon, apparently nomura was even saying stella and noctis were not even romantically related in the script and it was more a hamlet play than a romeo and juliet play
we knew jack shit about versus 13 aside from small details and we probably will never know.
>>334960717
Fuck I want that Big Bang theme but I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition through the S-E store. Will I still get that?
>>334957750
>2012
it was 2011
>>334960947
Well that is the regular Final Fantasy map layout already. The only difference is you don't go into a map screen, you just go.
>>334960862
>>334960535
If there's one thing i gathered through these threads is that the definition of "empty" is loose as fuck
To some people a map is empty if it doesn't have tons of quests or a checklist of things to do per area at all times, for others it's empty if it has huge plains without much verticality
Personally i won't mind if it's one big stretch of nothing expectacular happening as long as i get immersed, shit like checking out where are those animals running to and so on
>>334961217
the theme is a fucking eyesore anyway
>>334951942
Because modern square enix is fucking cancerous and desperate to retain their old glory of the PS1 days.
>>334960862
But it would be also annoying if literally every single piece of land has some secret or rare item or quest or something.
>>334960997
It's a roadtrip game (at least for the first part of the story?), making it anything else than open world would be stupid
>>334961035
>but then they did a 180 and make it standard bullshit boytrip story
It was always gonna be that.
>>334961106
I would like you to post statistics. If you have them, I'll accept what you're saying and admit that I was wrong about that mattering.
>>334960997
Game got teased in 2005 and again in 2006.
>>334961163
>not even in the top 20 anymore
>jap amazon not even top 10 whilst shit like berseria is twice
uh oh
![694940074001_4831362954001_4831315727001.mp4_snapshot_03.54_[2016.04.06_22.17.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GEgPs6p.jpg "694940074001 4831362954001 4831315727001.mp4 snapshot 03.54 [2016.04.06 22.17.41]")
Even the first chapter of the game seems to have hidden optional dongeons, even though Noctis is just supposed to go get married.
I wouldn't worry about the map being empty.
>>334961394
That was Versus XIII. XV is different, and it only started full production in 2011, so five years ago.
>>334961163
I never said it wouldn't sell retarded. Learn how to read.
I'm just saying that pre-order doesn't mean as much as you think, again especially because XIII released at a totally different time, video game medium, pre-ordering, DLCs and all that crap wasn't nearly as prevalent as it is now.
>>334961478
Will we ge more memetastic quests names?
>>334961346
it really was? thats too bad
>>334960997
It'll not be awash with content if they're shooting for an enormous map, but it'll likely be fairly scenic, which seems to be what they're going for.
>>334959132
Probably busy jerking off to those webm's that he shills in every XV thread
>>334961453
The game is 6 months out still
>>334961491
Name change means shit, its still the same game. You dont change a name or remove or add a certain thing and call it a 100% new completely different thing. Also "full production" is shit too. The game has been worked on for over 10 years.
>>334961593
I hope they remove that shit
Games never needed to list or give a name to every single shit you're supposed to do. Especially FF.
What did we know about Versus XIII and what has changed since then to FFXV? Why revamp the whole thing too?
>>334961239
>half a decade old development with jack shit info and no release date in site
>chances are development was hindered by a shitty game no one wanted (FF13, kowashita)
missed intended console generation
christ versus and P5 share too much in common as time goes on, though im sure p5 is no where near as troubled, i think atlus just lost alot of their steam and ability to make current gen games by being stuck on shitty handhelds for the better part of a decade. They probably just lost alot of understanding of modern mechanics to make something as big as persona 5 is ostensibly.
>>334961662
Not him anon but no, it's 4 years not 10. ALL OF SQUARE had to stop nearly everything they were doing to fix FF14 among other shit. XV wasn't being worked on then
>>334961478
>dongeons
Penis shaped caves?
>>334959298
Imagine if XV-kun gets arrested and isn't able to play FFXV.
>>334961809
Holy shit go crawl back under your rock
>>334961963
He'll find a way
>>334961662
>The game has been worked on for over 10 years.
They had to start over in 2012. Thing like the world, story and characters may be mostly as they were back in 2006 but that doesn't necessarily mean they've been working on the same game for over a decade.
>>334961943
Doesnt matter, they started and had shit being worked on far back as 05 06. Name changes and taking breaks to do other shit doesnt mean anything. They spent over 10 years on this garbage.
>>334961770
Nah that's pretty harmless, makes a lot easier to talk about it on the net if you have a keyword to search
I can do without the memes though, i don't want a giant enemy crab reference when i get to the coast
>>334961963
>he starts trying to shill the game to other prisoners while he's in there
>>334962053
Its the same game, name changes and restarting doesnt mean anything. Their fuck ups and laziness etc means nothing at all. Its the same game.
>>334961349
Don't know if that will be enough to convince you, but it shows that it got a 24% increase from 2014 to 2015. Remember that 2014 was the year of Titanfall, Watch Dogs, Destiny and other mega overhyped games.
I'm trying to find a older statistic that shows the increase from 2010 to 2011, but if you interpret this one you will sure realize that if things got this bad from 2014 to 2015, imagine how big the difference from 2008 to 2016 will be
>>334962156
lmao
>>334962156
>kagari gets a libel charge against her and goes to jail when she doesnt pay the charge
>gets bunked in the same room as FFXV-kun
>the tragic romeo and juliet romance of versus 13 everyone perceived is fulfilled by these 2
>FFXV is just ok on release
>>334961349
>>334962246
See also
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/15/video-game-pre-orders-on-the-increase-despite-gamer-complaints-5442163/
>>334961826
welp im wrong it was 2010 http://uk.ign.com/articles/2011/08/31/persona-5-is-in-development
yea both games have had their fair share of problems.
>>334961809
Versus XIII was a spinoff that was supposed to take place in the world of Fabula Nova Crystallis, the Final Fantasy XIII world (FFXIII 1-3, Type 0 and FF Versus XIII made up the entirety of the FNCverse). When we were just learning what Versus was, it was assumed that Noctis was the prince of a Mafia-like city, and fought against the evil kingdom attempting to invade his city, while dealing with Stella, his old friend turned enemy, and his three bros, Ignis, Gladios and Promto, who would help him fight to keep his city, and their crystal, which protects their kingdom, from Nilfhelm, the enemy invaders.
They threw that shit out in the transition to XV, while keeping important bits. Now, Noctis and his three bros (The same as the guys from Versus) are out of town while Nilfhelm gets invaded, and have to find a way to retake the kingdom from them. Meanwhile, Stella became Luna, who is now a person on the side of Noctis, trying to help them fight off Nilfhelm.
>>334962067
Don't you praise the crab, Anon?
>>334962246
>>334962417
Okay, those are some pretty good stats. It's clear that there are more pre-orders, and you're right that the situation is different. Thanks for the info.
>>334961809
Cause a 'Final Fantasy XV' would sell more.
>>334962598
>Stella, his old friend turned enemy
I was under the impression that they first met at that party just before the invasion.
>>334962598
Not the same world, the Fabula Nova Crystallis shares the same patheon of gods and some terms but interpreted completely different in each game, we'd never, say, run into Lightning on Versus XIII
XV is still using the image of Etro on the logo art
>>334958027
Well, it is Final fantasy's style. Even if the style dies, they will still try to make extremely attractive people to the point where they will end up looking anime-ish.
>>334961826
>>334962585
>>334961239
You guys are retarded. P-Team literally released Catherine and Golden in 2011.
In 2010 it was just concepts and Ideas, they weren't working on the game yet.
>>334938908
In the thumbnail it looks like she has a face where her boob window is.
>>334962062
Sure but there was several iteration especially when you change console gen entirely, and they started the last one from scratch 4 years ago.
>>334962859
>>334962585
See
>Preparation for development of the next Persona title began in 2010. Rumors of its development were floating around since 2009, when Sony's mobile website listed Katsura Hashino as the game's director.[10] Confirmation of development was given by Katsura Hashino in 2012 during an interview with Famitsu.[11] Multiple staff from previous Persona games returned for Persona 5 along with Hashino, including character designer Shigenori Soejima and composer Shoji Meguro. Hashino only became fully involved with the title after he finished work on Catherine.[1]
>>334941846
im high happy 420 and this game looks good cant wait to try it kek no really though
>>334962780
>Giving the point to another anon
I am really on /v/?That's not something you see every day.
>>334958054
hehe :^)
slurp slurp slurp
>>334946729
It's a good way to blur out background assets to focus on a scene where the important stuff happens. Also allows more processing power on things in the foreground so they look prettier.
>>334951942
Why does every one of your replies have to be retarded.
The controls are manual too, you don't have to keep fucking holding the button you moron. You can even do different moves when you're doing it manually, and as if you're doing that stupid shit the whole time. Are you fucking stupid or what?
I don't know what you mean by forward step but if you mean the automatic dodging well okay, you'll just lose MP and get hit by certain attacks all the time. So if you want to play like a retard, gooooo ahead there buddy. But they aren't doing shit wrong. Fuck off and never play it.
>>334963580
Yes, you are >>334963686
>>334963580
Well, he proved himself. What was I gonna do, lie?
>>334963915
That's what most people i XV threads do when they run out of arguments
>>334961453
well duh nothing stay top one for 2 weeks straight unless its coming out soon plus add in the 30k cl edition on the sqaure enix site and yeah this game is gonna sell no matter what
>>334963915
>What was I gonna do, lie?
Many people on the internet do just that, yeah.
>>334963851
>you don't have to keep fucking holding the button
see >>334952337
What strikes me as odd is that they simply won't do a game about political backstabbing and familiar conflicts like in Tactics, with that setting.
It would be amazing.
>>334961826
P5 was just concepts and some ideas in 2010-2011, Hashino was literally working at Catherine at this time. It only really began production in 2012, which gives us 4 years of development and 2 delays in between, it isn't that abnormal really. Also, we had literally NOTHING about P5 in 2012, the first teaser only got released at the end of 2013 and it showed nothing about the game, the first real trailer only got released in 2015. Compare that to FF Versus, which showed footage, trailer and a bunch of shit in fucking 2007-2008.
>>334964070
Who would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?
The real question is, will you be playing this shit when it comes out on the 26th?
>>334964342
LONGEST DAY EVER
why was the original called "Versus 13" ? What did the game have to do with XIII?
>>334964443
IT'S ON LIKE JUSMON
>>334964289
>P5 was just concepts and some ideas in 2010-2011, Hashino was literally working at Catherine at this time. It only really began production in 2012, which gives us 4 years of development and 2 delays in between, it isn't that abnormal really. Also, we had literally NOTHING about P5 in 2012, the first teaser only got released at the end of 2013 and it showed nothing about the game, the first real trailer only got released in 2015.
the fact that you cant tell that you literally just described versus 13 as an example of how its not the same shit
again, delays are not common as much as you are trying to set that up in your mind, delays only happen when unexpected problems in development arise and it is sucha large enough issue that they KNOW they cant meet the quota.
something isnt right with persona 5's development and its bordering on if not already in development hell, you dont need to be 10 years late like FFXV is to be in development hell nor does development hell mean the game is bad, (people forget that red dead redemption was in severe development hell and almost didnt come out)
>>334964760
Because SE had a hard on for FFXIII
>>334964760
Fabula Nova Crystallis, just like Type-0 was called XIII Agito
>>334964807
>>334964830
i thought everyone hated 13 and square knew this, wouldn't they try to distance themselves from it?
are the worlds connected somehow? still doesn't answer why they mentioned 13 in the name...
>>334965205
Because it was V13 before 13 was even out and no one knew it would be this unpopular
>>334964760
It was intended to be an alternative vision of XIII; they had this whole Fabula Nova Crystallis thing going on for XIII at the time and they wanted it to be its own multimedia franchise, which was all held together by a unifying mythos. Etro was featured prominently in some earlier Versus trailers, for example.
>>334965205
Because it was announced at the same time as XIII was.
>>334965205
Square kept going because the creator of XIII fucking wanted to fuck Lightning up the ass so hard he convinced everyone to let him keep making his waifu center stage.
And everything in the XIII world started with the same gods and shit.
>>334963851
Every one of my replies is retarded? I thought this board was anonymous
>>334965205
>i thought everyone hated 13 and square knew this, wouldn't they try to distance themselves from it?
This was back when they were first announced.
>are the worlds connected somehow?
They were gonna share some common lore elements. Type-0 actually does have a few of them like l'Cie, but they're not the same as in XIII.
>>334964791
>the fact that you cant tell that you literally just described versus 13 as an example of how its not the same shit
Versus 13 literally changed the name and development team of the game anon. Not to mention that's in development for more than 10 years.
>again, delays are not common as much as you are trying to set that up in your mind
Almost every AAA game gets delayed at least once these days. Just from the top of my head, MGSV, Watch Dogs, The Division and Witcher 3 are recent games that come to mind.
That happens because game development became more complex and games became more expensive, leading to companies being more careful and having more difficulty in the development process.
As for Atlus not showing much, the company was always like that. They don't like to spoil their games like Namco Bandai does, and think that they can kill the hype if they show too much. Like I said above, the most likely scenario is that they want to show some impressive footage along with the release date, we were still in april and the likely date is probably around june or july, Fallout 4 was one game that revealed its release date pretty close to its release for example, and Fallout 4 is a much more overhyped title than P5.
>>334965205
>wouldn't they try to distance themselves from it?
What do you think they did?
>are the worlds connected somehow?
They use the overall fabula nova crystallis mythos, with certain gods and stuff like L'Cies, but each game interpret them in different ways, for example L'Cies in XIII are those dudes who'll become a fucked up monster if they don't do their focus which they have no idea what it is, while in Type-0 L'Cies are pretty much super heroes on par with Superman, they answer only to the will of the crystals and their focus is clear
>>334938908
[Hate newspapers]
>>334946729
are you this fucking retarded? You cannot be seriously right now.
DoF is not a fucking artifact you retard. It's an artistic decision because it puts the focus on the subject and subdues background elements. Photographers don't just take a photo and then go "ah well shit there's DoF there guess that's just how it is." If they don't want DoF they adjust the aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
Literally kill yourself. You're too fucking dumb to live.
>>334951612
>>334951537
I fucking told you fags.
You'll be able to travel to the moon on FFXV.
Last upgrade for the car is Spaceship.
>>334965493
>>334964791
Also, Atlus insisted that there won't be any delays this year
>>334951259
>KoTR
If KoTR are summonable I might jizz everywhere. Im glad they are getting some love these days, in XIV and all.
> ask my friends
>>334964342
thought it was the 25th but hell yeah
>>334957816
>believing /pol/ maymays
Does everyone here at least like the road trip idea?
I can't think of a better idea to put this party in. A road trip with the guys is amazing.
>>334966531
Was skeptical at first around when XV got the namechange, now it's the thing i'm looking forward to the most
>>334966531
Absolutely.
>>334966531
It sounds awesome. A team of strangers saving the world is always nice, but I like that this is doing something different for a change.
>>334966531
Im hyped as fuck
>>334966531
I loved it. This is why I'm fine with an all guy party, it makes perfect sense.
It's also something I never seen in a vidya
>>334966531
idk
>>334966531
Initially I was wary, mostly out of concern that the darker plot elements might've been sacrificed for it, but it doesn't seem like that's the case and it's legitimately one of the comfiest looking games in a while. They've done a great job making the party characters likeable and the scenery looks amazing.
>>334960383
>>334960947
>>334961259
Now i'm pretty sure I read it isn't an open world. So the map is that big but the in game world isn't nearly as large as the entire map. You select the section of the world to travel to and in those sections are the explorable parts. Which means they aren't using that entire map just pieces of it.
>>334961478
>I wouldn't worry about the map being empty.
>screenshot of fucking nothing
Ok.
>>334967290
>Now i'm pretty sure I read it isn't an open world
Where?
>>334967290
I don't know in which fucked up corner of the net you've read this but that's completely wrong, already confirmed to be a huge seamless world with no loading screens
>>334967290
That may have been the case for Versus but I'm fairly certain XV is entirely open world, though I'd imagine cities might be exempt. Tabata suggested that there's no load times in a recent interview.
>>334967393
Learn to read
>>334946078
this post made me fart on my dick
congratulations retarded falcon
>>334967290
You can literally FLY
>>334967691
There'll probably still be invisible walls around mountains and cities
>>334967290
>Now i'm pretty sure I read it isn't an open world.
It is open world but it's more like an older FF game's world map but at a 1:1 scale for the most part, so cities and really big areas will probably have loading screens but smaller places like what were in Duscae will be seamless.
>>334967393
>70% of the screenshot is a hill
>>334967519
>>334967539
>No loading screens
I'm going to call bullshit. You can't make a game this size, with apparent dynamic environments, and have there be no loading screens. That's impossible. Current consoles would fucking die.
There are going to be instances. Most likely for all the dungeons.
>>334962180
>Its the same game
Are you underage anon? because you're pretty fucking stupid.
Just because it might be called "ff15" doesn't mean the game hasn't completely changed.
If they go "hey this build we have isn't work, let's scrap literally everything, rewrite the story, change the characters, and completely change the gameplay to something totally different.
Projects get scrapped all the time because they just aren't working. Whatever final fantasy comes out next was always going to be falled ff15.
If you were playing soccer with your friends and weren't having fun so you go play basketball instead you wouldn't be saying "this game of soccer where we shoot hoops is a lot of fun."
Well I mean you might. Being a fucking dumbass and all.
>>334938908
XV drones will defend this
I'm here just for the sexy webms
>>334952546
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER
PERSONA IS THE BEST
GET OUT OF MY SCREEN
>>334967773
Maybe, but they did said the game is "technologically open-world".
The engine is designed for this after all. It's lead designer is the Fox Engine guy actually.
>>334967860
Why is it so hard to believe? Shadow of The Colossus already did some impressive shit on the PS2
The world map loads as you move, it's no rocket science, even in Episode Duscae we can get inside a dungeon without loading
>>334968042
>persona
>high school dating simulator
yuk
>>334967860
You seamlessly enter dongeons in Duscae
>>334968061
I know, but there'll still be walls around the mountains and loadings "screens" for caves and cities, cause i doubt you can just crash right into a city
>>334968040
Like this?
>>334967860
>Most likely for all the dungeons.
The cave in Duscae didn't so smaller areas like that probably won't.
>>334968069
To be fair SotC is empty as fuck.
>>334968192
>they don't jiggle
DELETE THIS
>>334968413
Should have put that in the fan feedback.
>>334968229
Yeah but pulling out a better SotC map after two whole generations is not such a madman talk
>>334967417
I don't fucking remember. It was an article someone posted a few months ago.
>>334967519
You're wrong but whatever. Do you honestly think you're going to pop into those cities without a loading screen?
>>334967539
>suggested
There are loading screens. Don't be delusional.
>>334967691
fly within that section. You'll get turned around.
>>334967846
I have a feeling it will be large open areas with an overworld map.
Come on you guys how fucking retarded are you trying to be? This is why you idiots are let down by every fucking game that get's released.
You see trailers like MGSV and you fill your head with all these crazy ideas and assumptions that just aren't the way things are.. You same people are going to be coming here and shitposting how you were so let down and square lied to you and all this other shit when really you're riding a hype train through your own naive young minds..
>>334968639
>You're wrong but whatever. Do you honestly think you're going to pop into those cities without a loading screen?
Without a doubt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwUNpb7FCyw
>>334968192
Damn right.
>>334968562
It was buried under all the "Cidney is too sexy!" complains of my cuck region.
>>334968639
Can't wait to see the game prove you wrong.
>>334968639
>I don't fucking remember.
Well every time they've mentioned it they've said it is open world so if you've got nothing then I'm gonna assume it is in fact an open world.
>>334968798
>using an unfinished area from a demo that had to be accessed by a glitch as proof
>>334969034
He probably remember the time when Tabata said it's not a typical meme open world game in how they approach the gameplay.
He said in the same interview that the game is open world technically.
>>334969217
Yes
Is the ATR gonna be worth watching tomorrow? They're not even adding subtitles to it since it's meant for Japanese fans.
>>334968069
There are instances that you cannot stream enough data fast enough for it to be seamless. There's just too many techncal limitations. Streaming data does not work the way you think it does. You still end up using all your memory and need to load in all the assets.
It's a completely different process than what's in your head. I have worked with engineers about streaming data and it has just as many limitations as any other caching of assets.
Simple put, if you want to go to an area that's a completely different set of assets, characters, animations, dialogue whatever you're going to need a loading screen.
The type of streaming you're thinking of is procedurally generated content. That type of shit can be streamed in and out of your memory since it's created using code rather than loading in your art assets.
Think of it as vectors vs rasters. You can create an infinite sized object using vectors with no quality losee because it's all calculated on the fly. Rasters, like a jpg image, have to keep and store all the pixel information and store it to memory. It takes up space, even if you stream it.
>>334968609
Sotc is not an example you want to use. It ran at like 15fps and sometimes single digits and was completely barren with no enemies, no characters, almost nothing in it with repetitive textures. Read the above I quoted other anon.
>>334969391
Well you can watch it to see Tabata's smile
>>334968192
Got more m8?
>>334969391
I'll watch it
>>334958518
Reviewers will under a lot of pressure cause of the scale of the game and the fact that it's Japanese. Nevertheless, giving it a bad score could kill 25 year old 100milion selling series, and most of the journalist barely played any FF game. FFS Type-0 got around 75 average and 8s in major outlets and that game was BROKEN. You would need bigger balls to give this game anything less than a 9.
Also, NOTHING is coming in September, and keep in mind it's an ARPG with pretty graphics and Squares insane marketing budget.
Metascore: No less 88, will probably land between 89-92.
Sales: 4mil WW in the first week and crossing 10mil less than a year.
>>334939019
>persona
>GOTY
Anyone have the gif of them casting fire, and then the guy jumping away grabbing his ass?
>>334969826
Only the webm
>>334969689
>flat asian ass
it shoulda been fat
>>334968798
That literally proves it's not open world. Those are super low LOD assets only to be seen from a distance. They are shitty to stay low cost.
it's not an "unfinished area". It's either a far away low LOD skybox asset or something to be used in a cutscene or like the giant you can find in the demos to be summoned later.
It's not open world. This for fact proves it.
>>334968996
>>334969034
Yes and when ocarina of time was coming out miyamoto said That hyrule was absolutely massive and "it would take an entire day to cross hyrule".
What he meant to say was "It was take an entire in game day to cross hyrule. Which is about 15 seconds"
What a dev says is completely different depending on how much of the hype train you have up your ass like this guy >>334968996
>>334970070
No anon, they're super LOD because he's out of bounds and shit stops loading once you're out, you don't have to walk too far to see shit with lesser resolution and polygons already taking place in the environment
It's also true for the Crystal Shard, or do you think the Crystal Shard will also require a loading of its own?
>>334969689
noice
>>334954105
>That stats menu
Fuck this really is just Kingdom Hearts isn't it
>>334970338
>No anon, they're super LOD because he's out of bounds
>out of bouds
what in titty fucking christ is wrong with you people.
>>334969484
>There are instances that you cannot stream enough data fast enough for it to be seamless.
What kind of speed are you thinking of? In one of the GI footage we can see the Duscae region far in the distance while they're still in the wasteland region, if for the sake of argument we assume that there won't be any loading when getting to the Duscae region, than the basic of the basics for the region are already on the memory and will only load more the closer you get in while whatever is behind you will un-load, which could also be something with completely different assets like the crown city
>>334970308
Dude, this guy designed the engine
It's fully open world, just deal with it.
>>334970692
>out of bouds
Yes out of the bounds of the demo, what's your point?
>>334970692
You could ask yrousefl the sam thing
>>334970692
What you trying to say? The demo has a clear glowing line saying "you cannot go further"
>>334970842
>>334970909
>>334970916
>How the story is handled, it’s not 100 percent pure open-world, but it’s also not a pull along the rails kind of story. It’s very much a hybrid of those two styles, which I think is the best of both of them"
>you cannot go further because that region isn't in the demo"
in retail it will pop up a loading screen
Just fucking google it you fucking retards.
>>334969484
>Simple put, if you want to go to an area that's a completely different set of assets, characters, animations, dialogue whatever you're going to need a loading screen.
You can also have buffer area, like tunnels or slow to pass bridges/doors
It would keep the seamless illusion while streaming assets as fast as it can.
What're you guys even arguing about?
That there will be no loading screens? Apart from the first one there'll definitely hidden loading screens like the ones in the cave from Duscae or just going through the entrance of cities. The cities and all of the NPCs in it will most likely not be loaded in when you fly over it and shit, same with the dungeons
>>334971092
Way to completely miss the point, he's just saying that XV is not the kind of open world like Skyrim where you can go to any city at any time, you're following a A to B path ditacted by the story but there's a lot of liberty in said path
>>334971264
Basically this yeah.
But some anon seems to think it'll be much more segmented.
Even though we know Square will not allow themselves to release a game like that
>>334971264
Yes, the game will be contantly loading new shit at any time, but for some reason some anons seems to be thinking that everything has to be all loaded at once
>>334939019
>a visual novel with randomized and repetitive dungeons is gonna be goty
>>334971379
you faggots are killing me here. Just fucking read it yourself fucking retard.
http://www.examiner.com/article/final-fantasy-15-director-game-takes-best-of-both-open-worlds-linear-games
?it's open world guys! Just... not 100% open world.
You are delusional.
>>334971109
no you can't. You gotta flush everything and load in the new shit. It simply takes too much time for a buffer zone to be effective.
It would literally take longer to load everything while you're still playing the game. It would drop to just a couple frames a second for a 30+ seconds.
>>334971917
>Just fucking read it yourself fucking retard.
First try reading the first sentence of the thing you quoted yourself
>How the story is handled
>>334970695
You guys are simple clueless on how video games work aren't you?
You can see it because it's a low lod model. It's just part of the 3d skybox set piece for that region. When you actually get ot going to it it's going to load large open ares.
Like the witcher3 basically.
Whatever, people, one person is retarded and hasn't been following the game at all. Why do you care.
>>334971917
>no you can't.
My sides.
You're wrong anon. Plenty of games did this trick for decades. FFXV does it already, Duscae proves it.
>You gotta flush everything
Wrong.
>>334972097
I don't see why you're trying to make it look like the thing games on the past generation has been doing left and right is suddenly the most impossible thing to accomplish
I mean, GTAV is divided in two completely different environments and you can go through them without a single loading time
>>334972160
>506 posts
>119 posters
even with this ratio I'd say it's more than one shitposter that hasn't been following FF XV news.
>>334971917
>It simply takes too much time
If only there was a conveniently long animation at the entrance of each dungeons to hide this much time!
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