How to do a Superman game right.
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Superman games have almost universally been average at best and god fucking awful at worse.
What would have to be done in order to make a good Superman game?
>>333406838
First you have to make Superman interesting.
>>333406917
First post best post
>>333406917
So the Superman from Superman: The Animated Series?
>>333407239
No. He said interesting.
>>333406838
Set it on Apokolips so you can make Superman Ultimate Destruction
>>333406838
Easy, you take the Snyder approach
>>333406917
>I don't know jack shit about Superman.
Go read some comics, you lil ho. And I mean more than a single story arc. Your favorite Superhero is probably Batman because of "preptime xD"
>>333407547
Actually I don't know jack shit about DC, not just Superman. My favorite superhero is Moon Knight and I've mainly read Marvel and Image shit; think I've picked up maybe 3 DC trades in my entire life.
>>333407846
>I don't even read DC yet I want to shittalk it
for what purpose
>>333406838
Set it in Metropolis but it is under either Darkseid or Brainiac occupation.
Also make the combat a hybrid of DBZ and Arkham styles.
>>333407846
don't let that faggot convince you, superman is boring as fuck, hell, what is worse than old superman? easy, new 52 superman, that is why they're bringing the pre reboot superman back, I am not shitting you
Just set it in the Man of steel universe. That way it would be an openworld murder sim.
>>333407914
To generate discussion.
To be fair to myself, I don't dislike DC or prefer Marvel or whatever. It's just what I've picked up/read in the last few years. I enjoy comic continuity and the stories that can be told, but I'm not a fan of the comic as a medium.
>>333408115
couple it with comic book wonder woman and you get a total war on necks
>>333407914
>Implying he needs to hard read comics to grasp superman personality and defining traits besides his powers
Are you serious?
OK, get this. You're Superman and you have to fly through rings every other level.
>>333408641
I am implying that if he wants to talk about Superman he should probably know some shit about Superman.
You're invincible. No health bars, no stamina, worst that can happen is that you're knocked through a building or the ground, slowing you down and causing damage. The game is one huge mission mode in a Metropolis hub world, things may slightly change for each mission. Think vice city × air ride's city trial × a mario 64/sunshine level.
Your job is to stop a threat or fix a problem, usually many at once, with as little damage and as few people getting hurt as possible. Aliens, mutants, luthor, natural disasrers, terrorists, muggings, cat stuck in a tree, stop a train crash, someone about to kill themself, dog drowning, meteriors raining down, some guy needing a hug, his entire rogue gallery, word silver age disasters. It's your job to fix all if this as fast and carefully as possible. It should be light and heroic in tone, feel like All-Star Superman/Donner's films at heart, and look like Alex Ross' work in 3D
>>333407930
Do this, give superman some sort of magic curse or kryptonite poisoning so you have to upgrade your skills so there's an explanation on why superman has to hit things more than once to kill shit.
Make him a villain.
http://equityarcade.com/2016/03/26/why-batman-needs-to-beat-the-tar-out-of-superman/
>>333409038
You just described Superman Returns.
It was shit. I paid 60 bucks for it.
>>333406917
So adapt Birthright?
Done
What's the next part of your master plan?
>>333409260
>not ASS
>>333409145
Nope.
>>333409038
>>333409083
What if your health and your powers are tied together?
Call it a Solar Energy meter or something. The more meter you have, the more abilities you can use and the stronger your attacks are.
Gives the player incentive to avoid really huge hits.
>>333409367
>Wasting your load on the first shot
All Star would be the sequel, anon.
The game that improves upon everything a Birthright would establish.
>>333406838
Start him at the original ``faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a locomotive `` power level.
As time goes on he grows in power to somwhere around the modern power level.
>>333406838
Adapt his best comicEven though Captain Marvel was the real hero
Make a game based on the Fleischer cartoons
>>333409470
I guess you're right anon
>>333409593
Did they make more than one? Whenever I saw it on it was the same story as the first movie.
>>333409697
16 episodes,but the first 8 were made by Fleischer. The final 8 by Famous.
>>333409535
>that reflection in the table
>>333409535
The art in that comic was absolutely gorgeous
>>333406838
Simple
1. good flying - think of ace combat X armored core in human form
2. outstanding destruction models
3. collecting minigames which translate into saving people from destruction - you're basically angel of peace in ultra GTA setting
4. legitimate threat
5. make the city open world, but with carefully designed setpieces that trigger on approach, avoid sandbox like the plague.
>>333408013
No they're not. Seriously, you are dumb as fuck.
Final hidden boss fight is between Saitama and Superman.
Make it end in KO and Saitama wants to fight again or some shit.
>>333406838
I once had a big fat epic concept I thought would work, but budget wise two anons opened my eyes to much simpler early approaches.
Either you do a game where Superman is in a magic setting and while still powerful he is now vulnerable and go wherever you want with that OR you make it Wolf Among Us 2.0. and focus on Clark's journalist side with him using his Kryptonian powers primarily to investigate things the detectives and cops can't and here and there get directly involved in dealing with a burning building using super or arctic breath or the whole vacuum spin or whatever the hell.
You circumvent a lot of issues in either case, for example in the second case instead of having to save a whole city constantly the game has a central plot focus with newspapers in Clark's apartment detailing how he or the JL rescued everyone from whatever behind scenes. Similarly in the other one since he's no longer on Earth he only needs to be as involved as the magic bullshit keeping him there is, no burning buildings or saving babies or whatever just actioncomicsand adventure in either case with a few theme appropriate cameos.
A very neat and orderly direction. Sales from those two could then be used for something with a bigger scope.
>>333409949
Alex Ross is one of my favorite artists. I have few comics, but Kingdom Come is one of them. It's damn good.
>>333408641
You millenials think you can critique anything because you Google it. That's why your generation is dumb and spoiled. Never had to read the damn book, just the cliff notes.
>>333409145
That game has a few of those elements, but did them poorly. It did some things right but it lacked depth, it lacked veriety, it lacked polish, it lacked good pacing, the hub world was empty, had nothing to do in it, everyone was lifeless there weren't any little jobs to do, powers could have been implemented far better, controls were iffy, and it was too muted and muddy looking. That rushed shovelware game is like 20% of what a Superman game should be.
>>333409418
No, that's cheap. Your sole concern should be your city and its citizens, not yourself. Maybe if you're exposed to kryptonite.
>>333408151
fair enough
Superman is fucking invincible. How can you go from there? You can't have fight regular enemies/thugs like in batman arkham series. You can't have fix a broken bridge, what fun is there to that? It's impossible to have him feature in a game
The key to making an open world Superman game fun is to make the world actually alive.
There shouldn't be missions or mission markers. Events should just happen as you fly around. Not only that, but have the citizens respond to your actions,and Superman responding back. This interaction would give people "hope" and inspire them to improve their areas.
One thing I love about Superman in various media is when he talks to an average guy, addresses them by name and just generally acknowledges them as individuals.
I have no idea how this would work in a vidya. Infamous 1 sort of did this with encounters. There would be random crime and gang fights occurring in the middle of nowhere. People would throw trash at them and cheer for you (or throw trash at you and fear you). It was a nice little detail that I think could work if someone really dug into it and fleshed it out.
>>333409535
> tfw you've never read Kingdom Come
Why are comics the one thing that people instantly think they're an expert on without ever touching a comic at all?
>>333409949
Check out Marvels, which also has art by him (though the story isn't as good)
There was another comic called Justice, which he did the painting for (another artist called Doug Braithwaite did the pencils, but it's still fantastically detailed)
>>333406838
Supes is secretly injected with a fabricated kryptonite(not real kryptonite) by the main enemy in the game to kill him but it fails and it just makes him vulnerable , this way he's not invicinble, sorta like hulk ultimate destruction and how hulk got an excuse to stay green for the whole game.
Supes issue is that he's too op and his only weakness is kryptonite, magic/nth and lack of our type of sun, you can't have an entire city coated in nth or magic and you can't block out the sun because then everyone on earth dies so use the good old fashioned kryptonite but put a dumb comic book excuse so he still powerful but not to the point that it makes the get boring because God mode is on default.
the rest is history, Supes gets stronger as you play through the game this means leveling up and acquiring his trademark powers again the more you progress like bats in all 3 Arkham games, open world, tons of known villains, destructible environments good air combat, good flight mechanics, side activities like stopping a plane from crashing, stop meteors from crashing, stopping a train from crashing, saving people from burning buildings or nuclear reactors about to blow, low level thugs, using your powers to fix problems, like ice breath to put out fire, laser to melt metal, super gearing to find out trouble, etc.
>>333410549
I assume you're implying I've never read Kingdom Come.
I also assume you're implying Captain Marvel wasn't the true hero of the storyDespite the fact he sacrificed himself by detonating the nuke at a high enough altitude as to not kill everyone in the final battle
These are all assumptions of course.
>>333410556
The same could be said about almost everything.
>>333410515
Superman's challenges aren't fights, they're descions and thinking your way out of intense threats. Name one superman story where simply punching the guy solved the conflict?
>>333410804
I'm a little drunk so pardon my fuck up in phrasing.
I mean't that I've never read Kingdom Come and that face was of people when I say I've never read it.
>>333410804
>I Googled the comic so I understand the emotional impact of the story
If your idea of a good Superman game is to depower Superman, then your idea is trash. Get a new one.
>>333410845
Death of Superman. Superman just wailed on Doomsday until they both died
>>333411163
then they both come back
>>333410923
>I mean't that I've never read Kingdom Come and that face was of people when I say I've never read it.
Not sure why, it's a lot of pomp and circumstance really. There's also the heavy handed subtext of looking down on Extreme 90s anti-heroes. Admittedly deserving, but it sort of tainted things the way What's So Funny etc etc did since some points are less a story and more a mumbled lecture.
>>333410845
>you come home from a long day of super hero work
>open door
>see Darkseid sitting on your pa Kent's recliner
wat do?
>>333409982
More or less this.
The controls need to be really tight.
>>333411102
then we'll never get a good superman game.
>>333411102
If your idea of a good Superman game is to make a Superman game, then your idea is trash. Get a new one.
>>333409038
Maybe have a time system in place. Events will come and go. The player will find out they can't help everyone. Some events can have an affect on the bigger story.
For the anons that are genuinely curious about Superman
You can't it's impossible.
The beat-em-up was decent though.
>>333411423
That's because you're dumb. Saints Row 4 was good and had you playing as an overpowered beast. Same thing for Hulk Ultimate Destruction.
>>333411163
Did punching doomsday bring him back from the dead? Oh wait, did you read the death of superman? You probably think that's the end of a story, but it isn't. See that was the beginning of an arc, not the culmination of one. Retard. Damn you need to READ this stuff if you want your opinion on the subject to have weight. Or better yet, just don't comment at all because you clearly know fuck all about this. Would you go into a mechanic shop and start talking cars if you don't even know how to drive?
>>333411328
Logically Supes would ask Darkseid to step outside for a talk, and possible fight, since that house and chair are all he really has before and outside the Kryptonian stuff so he wouldn't want to destroy it in a punch and beam out.
Modern Supes is just going to go apeshit in his own parents' pad because it's been 3 minutes without action and the writing's afraid the audience is bored.
>>333411580
How to contradict yourself in less than a paragraph: the post
>>333406838
Every single thread I say the same thing. Just make a Golden Age Superman game.
You can break shit and mess with people like a standard open-word game because Golden Age Superman is a trolling misfit who dicks around in the name of the greater good. You can have a baller big band/swing soundtrack, individual "episode" story missions based on old one-shot comic storylines and episodes from the tv show. You're not invincible, you're just really strong and durable and can jump over shit instead of flying. Imagine running around a 1940's Metropolis to Sing Sing Sing and beating up Japanese stereotypes flying robots. It would be awesome.
While I could look it up myself I'd rather hear it from you anons: what is the Anti-Life Equation and why should I give a shit?
>>333410181
>Implying superman is a character with enough depth to actually require in depth knowledge besides what the mainstream media shows related to what comic book lore can actually show
>Trying to sound high and mighty when talking about age when I was alive when you weren't even born
>Misusing the term millennials
Not only you are wrong but also retarded, nice
>>333411584
you didn't start super op, so Supes needs to be depowered for it to work. like sr4, Crackdown, prototype, Arkham, infamous, hulk ultimate destruction etc
>>333411647
>S: Darkseid! What are you doing here?
>D: I am many things Kal-El
>D: But here on this chair, I amcomfy
>>333411687
Well of course. The best way to even make a Superman game is to not one at all. Just make another game and slap Superman on it mid way through development. Bam.
>>333406917
First post is often worst post.
>>333411817
SSHHH, you'll wake him up.
>>333411817
>what is the Anti-Life Equation
The end.
>and why should I give a shit?
What it says on the tin summarize that anything alive really shouldn't.
>>333411886
>you didn't start super op
The progression system is not what made Saints Row or Hulk good.
>>333406917
Whelp, thread's over.
but I was going to say a Telltale-styled adventure game.
Superman has absolutely nothing unique to bring into a videogame otherwsie.
You make a Clark Kent game
>>333411783
Why do that when you could make a Stardust the Super Wizard game?
>>333412078
Jesus, you're thick.
>>333411817
It is the antithesis of life. Freewill, love, creativity, happiness are all inverted under the anti life equation.
>>333411850
Also if you believe a kids cartoon makes you an expert on things then why isn't every 6 year old a Marine biologist and expert linguist? Fucking millenials man
>>333411640
>Did punching doomsday bring him back from the dead
>Actually justifying the shit cop out of putting supes body in a regeneration matrix
At least it is not as retarded as time traveling eye beams from Darkseid but you are a goddamn moron for actually talking highly of shit plot devices to justify yourself
>>333412073
So... what, you just invoke it and the universe is kaput?
>>333407239
JLU Supes. He was less a boy scout and more of a dickhead politician.
>>333412306
rekt
>>333412095
Can I look through Lois Lane's shirt?
>>333412221
You don't have a point here. You claim that you need to be depowered in a Superman game. I claim that the progression in the games I listed does not matter, as both would still be good games even if you started with all of your powers.
>>333411584
>Saints Row 4 was good
Also Hulk Ultimate Destruction, Prototype and that kind of games are good because you can cause destruction an chaos, that shit wouldn't fly in a Superman game unless you are okay with throwing out the whole point of the character
>>333412306
>Implying you are a Marine biologist and expert linguist because you read comic books
You fucking with me son?
>>333412453
No.
>>333412475
Well, I think you need that level of destruction in a Superman game on order to give you an objective of not causing the destruction
Be as a cheesy but warmhearted as possible like the old movies?
>>333412453
Not even superman wants that washed out whore, at least not in n52, why would you
>>333406838
You don't. It's not fun to play as a Superhero who is stuck being a moralefag.
If you have Godly powers you should be allowed to topple buildings and crush civilians.
>>333412475
>Prototype and that kind of games are good because you can cause destruction an chaos
You can cause destrution and chaos with superman. It just doesn't have to be civilians. Superman has fought against giant robots and shit before. You could easily just make that kind of thing the main fodder.
Not to mention aliens and creations that have strength on par with Superman.
This is why people (and I'm not directing this towards you, the guy I'm quoting) give people shit for not reading Superman comics and daring to comment on what makes a good video game. They lack the imagination to pit Superman besides anything but street thugs.
>>333412505
kek'd
>>333412321
Wow you googled that quick. Hey, how can you be okay with super powered aliens but not okay with Sci fi revivals? Is that where you draw the line?
>>333412751
why is smug clark best clark?
>>333412306
you can delude yourself into thinking superman conveys such depth that only experts on comics will grasp how the character is, doesn't make you less retarded
>>333412505
>I can't grasp basic anologies
I feel so bad for you no child left behind retards who only speak in memes and image macros
>>333413059
Clark revealing he's Superman in not so subtle ways are truly the best moments.
[HEALING COMA]
>>333412998
>googled
>bought the books when they were new
>even local news made a huge thing out of superman being dead
>they brought him back not long before he was deep cold in comic form again
>OH MY HE KNOWS SOMETHING I DON'T, BET HE IS USING GOOGLE
come on now
>>333413152
You can delude yourself into thinking he doesn't despite admitting you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, all it does is show how retarded you are to everyone else.
>>333411850
>>333413152
Lex, get over it. Your hair isn't coming back.
>>333413152
Maybe it ain't theology but yeah, you still don't know shit about it. Superman has been around for damn near a century and your telling me that you know EVERYTHING about the character because you watched a bit of a cartoon over a decade ago when you were still pissing your bed?
>>333413171
>Comparing apples to oranges
And I feel bad for idiots like you who think finesse is found in a lump of shit
>>333412589
Giving the player the power to make that level destruction just to prohibited or punish the player for doing it is the worst idea for a video game period
>>333412717
Of course you can make the enemies aliens and the setting other place that allows that kind of destruction but that generates other problems, is not that people have no imagination, is just that you are wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yWGk7cLFjo
>>333412094
agreed with this one, hes to OP but decision making would be tight, who lives who dies.
>>333413357
Not long? Seriously?
>>333408151
Yeah great discussion guy who doesn't know what he's talking about. Board isn't shit enough.
I am sick of these fucking /co/ autists invading every board
make a fucking /capeshit/ already
>>333411850
Millenia also applies to people born in the 90s. Just sayin
>>333413449
And I feel bad for your sad chicken shit generation that thinks caring about things is stupid
>>333413627
>unironic use of the word capeshit
retard detected
>>333411584
>saints row 4 was good.
what. It was okay I guess.there was never anything threatening in the slightest though.
>>333413483
>Giving the player the power to make that level destruction just to prohibited or punish the player for doing it is the worst idea for a video game period
Don't design video games.
The best Superman moments are when he goes out of his way to prevent destruction in order to save people.
Destruction and general city maintenance can be a good concept if executed correctly.
>>333413606
>only one fucking year
At least Marvel unlike DC can keep a character dead
>>333413931
Those are good moments of characterization but they can't translate to interesting gameplay in any way, shape or form
>Hey, you didn't use all this cool tools to complete your objective, well done! S rank
>>333414070
>comparing marvel and DC deaths
No knowledge at all huh? Why did you feel so compelled to come here to display your ignorance?
>>333413713
and 80's so using it to denote underage children is a misuse
how about having supes fight bad guys who are of cosmic power, but in a hub that's metropolis?
not so much the bad guys fighting in metropolis (maybe for some final last stand missions), but more that clark needs people to be happy and have hope in order for himself to survive.
something like space cosmic missions for story progression, and metropolis saving people adventures for grinding and side-missions.
>>333413931
But nobody would want to fucking play it. People don't want to help people, they want to kill shit. If they wanted to walk old ladies across the street they would go outside and do it.
Ever wonder why they haven't made an Arkham game take place in an area with normal people in it? Because everyone would throw a fit because you can't just punch a nigga.
Sucks, but that's how it is.
>>333414174
>Not comparing the superior storytellers to actual shit ones
No need to get so assblasted, even in movie form Marvel wins over DC, get over it, the only thing DC has going over DC are the outdated and washed out Batman movies of which the third one was a raging turd
>>333414150
I dunno. having control of your powers and using your cool tools to not even destroy a single thing except the enemy is cool in its own right.
the real problem with a superman game is actually just the lack of real threats though. there needs to be the most terrifying monster possible.is there any kind of enemy that's essentially a commander from supreme commander and he reclaims things in order to create armies? this is what superman needs to fight.
>>333414364
Can Brainiac do shit like that?
>>333414348
Listen, kid. If you knew anything about the actual comic scene, you'd know that most readers don't give a fuck about company wars. Both brands are generally shit with good stuff sprinkled in. You just aren't fitting in, no matter how hard you try.
>>333414364
Superman fights all sorts of city destroying, invasions and planet busters shit all the time.
Why do people think he only fights common thugs?
>>333414364
superman is only as strong as the writer wants to, he goes from shit in some issues to retard strong in others, slower than fucking speedsters to faster than human thought so you can cop some shit out
like in red son where he fucks hal over because he moves faster than hal can think, or in injustice where he annihilates darkseid's army which are scarce over the entire planet within seconds killing them all
>>333413483
> 1:35
Its OP's Superman but somehow even more shitty.
>>333414241
>People don't want to help people, they want to kill shit
Stop projecting.
>>333414596
Because they haven't read a superman comic. Shocking, I know.
>>333414457
>>333414549
>DC fanboys getting mad over facts
And how's that BvS movie going?
>>333406838
>at worse
>>333414693
Woah, settle down. I was talking about the general market, spergy. I'd love a game like that, but it's just not happening. If it got made every review would cry about how you can't burn people.
You either have him constantly protect people and them dying leads to game over, or you have him fight in outer space aliens and shit that are as strong as he is.
Superman is broken as fuck though so it's hard. Fighting random thugs won't work since they can't hurt, or touch him. Everything's got to be grand scale. What do you do with that exactly? Even in the cartoon it's stupid that anything should touch him since he's so damn fast yet it happens all the time.
I can already see the lame ass, Kryptonite used as a steroid and mass produced so now everyone can hurt Superman, or Kryptonite bullets.
So while you can have him over pwoered Alien bosses, or people with kryptonite spears and shit it's hard to build anything in between that. Superman boss rush mode is essentially the only thing that would work because escorting/protecting people would get very borning.
I guess a 5 hour game that's just non stop big ass aliens, set pieces and bosses is the only way to make it.
>>333414348
>trying to start a /v/ style console war with comic book companies
if you knew even the first thing about comics, you'd know that most of the notable writers from the big two have written for both DC and Marvel
>>333414765
BvS is shit like most comic movies. Doesn't mean it isn't a fun way to spend an evening.
>>333407914
If you read DC it means you find it entertaining. If you tried it but you find it boring then you're allowed to shit talk
>>333414203
I feel like this is the best that could be done. While I think the best Superman stories are about humanity, inspiring people, etc. that's pretty fucking hard to make a game mechanic outside of Spider-Man 2 esque side missions.
>>333414765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYKeQczkFfM
>>333414241
>But nobody would want to fucking play it. People don't want to help people, they want to kill shit.
My ass
I would love to play more GTA games where I'm the cop. Not a corrupt cop, a good cop.
>>333414925
>If you tried it but you find it boring then you're allowed to shit talk
Has nothing to do with the post you quoted given the guy who started this doesn't even bother to try DC.
>>333414901
>Doesn't mean it isn't a fun way to spend an evening.
>Encouraging people to go and watch that aberration
I hope you are ashamed of your words
>>333414348
Ignoring everything else you said no one can say that Marvel has/had better animated properties
>>333414898
I know more than you do or even will, and I know how Marvel characters and stories are better than mary sue land DC
>>333406917
>>333407217
Your pleb is showing anon
>>333414985
Who else /obeystrafficlights/ here?
>>333414967
>fucking hard to make a game mechanic outside of Spider-Man 2 esque side missions.
I can see that working if you polished it out and had a ton of variety.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 brought random events back and even had you rescue people from building fires.
Too bad it was a shit game.
>>333406838
why not make it about an interesting character like batm... oh wait
>>333415160
>I know more than you do or even will, and I know how Marvel characters and stories are better than mary sue land DC
You ain't fooling anyone with this mess, son.
>>333414985
And by "playing a cop" you totally mean doing a shitload of paperwork, waiting with nothing to do on the road and spending most of your time giving ticket and not, shooting a bunch of people, right?
Spoiler, you don't want to play as a cop, you want to play as a sociopath with a badge, aka cop missions in GTA
>>333414971
I JUST realized the reason the only person who kept his cool here is Superman because Man of Steel must have prepared him for a similar response. I know two other people who worked on it are there but they probably ducked the brunt of things until now. I'm just hoping Snyder is done, it's fucking Schumacher all over again.
>>333415194
Muh nigga
>>333415160
If I recall isn't Marvel almost entirely a parody of DC minus a small handful of characters? A very small handful of characters.
>>333413931
Makes me think of the Ghostbusters video game (aka the real gb3) where destruction played a part in how you got paid, so you could either be very careful or just say fuck it and destroy everything
Make it about the restraint of power instead of the use of power.
You don't have a health bar: your opponent does. You have to make sure his doesn't reach zero or people start calling you out, but at the same time you need to stop the villain from committing crimes.
>>333415323
Nice "counter" argument you got going there kiddo.
>>333415324
>Spoiler, you don't want to play as a cop, you want to play as a sociopath with a badge, aka cop missions in GTA
Have you never played police officer games that involve you stopping criminals without killing them? Because there are a number of them that exist.
Chase HQ
Judge Dredd
True Crime
Sleeping Dogs (during the cop missions)
Besides, your post is stupid because it's saying "you don't want to play as a game where you're a mayor because you have to campaign and beg for donations and..."
>>333415336
>I'm just hoping Snyder is done
He's making a solo Batman movie with Batfleck and a Wonder Woman movie, on top of the Justice League one, he is far from done
>>333415462
It's a constant back and forth between both companies. One of the worst being Thanos, Darkseid, Mongul and Apocalypse. Hell Spider-Woman was created just so DC couldn't use that name.
>>333406838
Make it like Lemmings with a player avatar that's invulnerable and super-strong, but lacks specialized skills necessary to accomplish the objective, which the excessively vulnerable Lemmings happen to posess.
Think of it like Pikmin or Overlord, but with Superman in the middle doing the fighting while his minions are sent to enter passcodes, hack computers, unlock retinal scanners, etc.
And for fuck's sake, make the AI endearing instead of frustrating. Or make Supes be the invincible minion while the PC gets to be the controller.
>>333414241
>The edgemaster reveals his true form
>>333415543
What argument am I supposed to counter? You didn't present one to counter in that post I just quoted.
>>333406838
Make it about control, and playing the Superman you want to play.
Controlling Superman should be like driving stick shift. The game isn't about progression from weak to strong but about holding back just enough to be effective and efficient, holding back a lot to be playful and smug, or cutting loose to be a 1,000 exploding suns with every punch. The way you confront crime and other threats should reflect on your reputation with the city and allow you to role play as any single Superman personality ever, from Golden Age smugster to Boy Scout to frustrated JLU leader to Injustice Lord to Man of Murder.
You could scan a city block with multiple types of vision and hearing, zip down to cut off a bank robber, and then either fuck with them and spout one-liners or melt their guns immediately with heat vision or burn them all alive with heat vision.
>>333415497
>Man of Steel didn't come out during the PS2 era when people remembered that pressure controls were a thing
>The grapple button would cause you to snap people's necks if you pressed too hard.
What could have been
>>333406838
Superman is hard to make into a good game because superman is a god. And games where you are an invincible god are boring. (not to confuse with god games where you control the world) Superman stories are largely about that outsider finding home in a different world and doing stuff for good.
That doesn't make for very good video games.
Batman on the other Hand has a lot of beating up guys who could technically kill him. a lot of sneaking around. a lot of finding way to beat beings much stronger than him. All traits that come very natural to video games.
>>333414861
>Titan Souls: Supes Edition
Meh, I'd give it a pirate, and I didnt even care to play titan souls in the first place
>>333415659
Dude Wonder Woman is Patty Jenkins, get your info up to date
>>333415543
I'm sorry why is Predator killing a gibberish speaking cultist next what looks like Harley Quinn?
>>333415324
>And by "playing a cop" you totally mean doing a shitload of paperwork, waiting with nothing to do on the road and spending most of your time giving ticket and not, shooting a bunch of people, right?
Isn't that pretty much Police Quest?
>>333415664
don't forget the worst one, deadpool/deathstroke
>>333415818
He's killing Sabrina the Teenage Witch and that's Bettie from Archie next to her.
>>333415818
Archie meets the Predator
He just stabbed Sabrina the Teenage Witch
>>333413614
Yep. They were so gloriously shithouse
>>333415753
>And games where you are an invincible god are boring.
I have no idea why people keep saying Superman is invincible
>>333415715
>I can't say anything convincing to actually justify how DC=Marvel in terms of quality that isn't my wretched point of view and them sharing some writers at one point
Yeah, good to know you can't defend your own opinions
>>333415994
Dumb people getting into discussions they don't belong in
>>333415818
Because Sabrina is universally hated
>>333406838
> You are invincible (no life meter/damage at all)
> Sandbox Metropolis with destructable buildings
> Enemies attack city, you fight them off
> Buildings destroyed in collateral damage
> When all buildings are destroyed, you lose
>>333415994
If he's not canonically invincible, then he's just Batman in a more colorful alternate skin.
>>333415608
There is nothing stupid with my post you don't want to play as a mayor, you want to play animal crossing that is nothing like being a mayor
And in sleeping dogs, during most cops mission, you are still doing incredibly crazy shit, like hitting cars, have you ever seen a real car chase? most don't play out like that. You are playing exactly as >>333414241 is describing, the only difference is that the game told you the old lady was a evil criminal and somehow you are justified in your incredibly reckless actions, and that's why the idea of a superman game fails, he can't do awful shit, regardless of how many excuses you can give him
>>333416039
And what have you said to support your own opinions?
Sharing writers is important because the writers are what make the comics good. Without good writers, you have shit storylines, shit dialogue, and just plain shit comics. Spider-Man isn't good because he's Spider-Man. Spider-Man is good because he's had a number of good writers behind him to turn him into something great.
Without a good writer, a comic is bad. This is why it makes no sense to chose a side when both sides are made up of the same people.
>>333416039
The top selling graphic novels of all time are littered with DC. Monthly sales belong to marvel due to flooding the market with number 1s constantly. Marvel failed so hard that Disney had to buy them and prop up their corpse so retards like you can clap at things that kind of move like avengers but aren't avengers.
>>333416252
So you know nothing of Superman?
>>333416252
No batman was superman in horror/crime skin.
>>333416273
>you don't want to play as a mayor, you want to play animal crossing that is nothing like being a mayor
My post was referencing Sim City, you fucking fetus.
>>333416435
Not your version, no. Again, you're just telling a Batman story with Batman wearing a blue and red suit.
>>333415994
Same people that say Aquaman is a pansy. Basically people that get their information about comic books from popular media.
>>333416387
>DC
>Top selling
Marvel holds 7 of the 8 top places of top selling comics, might want to check your facts again
Comic-book Title Issue Price Publisher Est. sales
1 Walking Dead 150 $2.99 Image 156,166
2 Secret Wars 9 $4.99 Marvel 149,028
3 Spider-Man Deadpool 1 $3.99 Marvel 133,813
4 Star Wars 14 $3.99 Marvel 118,471
5 Star Wars 15 $3.99 Marvel 107,858
6 Old Man Logan 1 $4.99 Marvel 104,362
7 Obi-Wan and Anakin 1 $3.99 Marvel 102,861
>>333415994
>>333416109
Nigga superman IS invincible. They had to completely reboot the character because he was just TOO FUCKING POWERFUL. moving planets for the fuck of it and what not. Of course like EVERY HERO EVER he has been wounded killed and depowered hundreds of times. Every time someone comes up with some bullshit reason to kill him. cryptonite. Darkseid, no sun, he turned evil. God knows what.
But baseline superman, as is. Is pretty much an Immortal god, strong than anyone else, able to keep up with the flash, mind reading and basically able to do everything. Fuck once he disabled someones power by lobotomizing him from a distance with his fucking eye lasers.
So don't give me this "hurp you don't know shit he got beat by X" yeah sure he did. He got beat by everyone once. I'm pretty sure if they crossover they could find a way for wolverine to beat him. But he is an immortal fucking god.for fucks sake even the Injustice line is subtitled "gods among us"
>>333416545
That still a really big abstraction of any actual mayor job
>>333416669
Read his post again
First thing's first, you have to give it a developer that is willing to do a combat system that is more than just counter-to-win. Superman cannot be locked into combat animations like Batman or Assassin's Creed.
Otherwise, there are tons of games where the hero can move fucking fast, hit like a truck, tank small arms fire, and throw shit around like it's nothing. All you have to do is add good flight mechanics.
The worst thing you can do for Superman is try to force him to be like other heroes.
>>333406917
Injustice comic achieved that already.
>>333416683
It's a video game you fucking autistic retard.
Why don't you go into a GTA thread and tell them they don't want to play as criminals because the games aren't about spending the majority of your adult life in prison
>>333407846
>Moon Knight
he is a blatant Batman ripoff and Batman is not terribly interesting either what a shit taste
>>333416720
Only 3 of those are number ones
>>333416678
He literally can not keep up with the flash and he was rebooted with the entire DC universe fucko. It was a blanket rebranding and had nothing to do with power levels
>>333416678
>They had to completely reboot the character
The only times they've ever rebooted Superman are when they've rebooted or mass retconned the entire universe. You can hardly pin that one on Superman alone.
>>333416794
Because nobody is a retard who actually think GTA shows the criminal life
>>333416720
>talks about DC in the past days of former glory when they actually sold shit and are still selling like shit compared to Marvel
>shits on Marvel saying they needed to be bought out of necessity and not willingly
I can see fine, mind your own business
>>333416846
Was that a list of graphic novels? And star wars would sell even if it was still idw. Christ you're retarded
>>333416678
jesus fuck do you not realize that referring to all superheroes as gods is a common thing for dc
>>333416678
You know that his corpse, right?>>333415994
And rebooted Superman still gets whooped. You can say he's invincible all you want, it won't make it true
>>333416991
>And star wars would sell even if it was still idw
Please don't move the goalpost anon
>>333416846
>>333416984
>The top selling graphic novels of all time are littered with DC.
I hope you're using a public computer in the library, because you need to learn to read
>>333417137
Oh did that list suddenly become top selling graphic novels?
>>333416883
>>333416909
I'm not sure why either of you or anyone is responding to that idiot, there are cases of Batman shooting fucking Darkseid and winning among other asspulls but no one brings those up or complains. It's bias plain and simple and trying to indulge it rationally will just get you more nonsense attempts of justifying their skewed view regardless of how many panels, pages and backed up detailed explanations you give.
If someone's rigid opinion is based on ignorance it is not going to get better with any amount of information. The ego will just feel it is being threatened and go into the usual mental gymnastics until everyone else gives up or the anon will just close the thread and retreat into the belief they're right forgetting anything you said within a few hours.
>>333416983
Nobody thinks Sim City is being a mayor
Nobody thinks Phoenix Wright is being a lawyer
Nobody thinks LA Noire is being a detective
Nobody thinks Street Fighter is actual fighting
Nobody thinks Harvest Moon is actual farming
It doesn't mean that real life concepts can't be re-imagined as video games. You autistic retard
>>333417228
>he moved the goalpost so I can moved too
That shit doesn't fly outside of kindergarten anon
I believe a Superman game could be like this: you would control a more powerful Superman than the TAS and the map could be in metropolis and Smallville.
At the top of the screen there would be a health bar (red) and below your health bar would be a bar that would measure its solar power (yellow) if you use the powers, this bar would empty but would regenerate with time (it can be filled more quickly if you stay near the sun) .if you fill solar energy bar completely you have an extension of that bar that would be in front of the health bar, all his powers would be more powerful and all damage that you take would be deducted from this bar, but you could activate a "Kryptonian mode" in which Superman would have a red aura around him and he would be stronger, faster, time would slow down however it will start to empty and attacks enemy and the constant use of powers would exhaust this bar faster, after the bar runs out there will be a time to recharge. In addition to these two bars there would also be a third bar a city bar, if you allow the bad guys cause excessive damage to the people would be a failed mission. If you fight with powerful enemies, there will be a time when you had to wait until the area is evacuated (the safe area would be represented by a light that will tell to where you can wreak havoc on your battle).
>>333417153
>shitty events that only sell because of novelty
>compared to Marvel who is steady all the time
Also, at work like a functioning member of society, not my fault your knowledge is ostracized by your shitty campus internet
>>333417336
His goalposts is cemented in place
>>333417365
>Shitty events that sale only because of novelty
So, Marvel?
There's a fucking event all the God damn time.
>>333413931
Using your body to make passage for a train is cool in a movie, but how would that translate into gameplay? A shitty qte and a pre-programed animation.
>>333417273
Are you comparing Batman getting teleported to the past due omega beams to superman hibernating INSIDE THE FUCKING SUN, THE MOTHERFUCKING SUN and suddenly out of nowhere in the future coming out as the most strongest being ever conceived, are you shitting me?
>>333417365
Marvel has only had steady dominance in recent year. Also marvel has several cross overs going on now with at least one being part of that list. Also, still isn't top graphic novels so is still retardly irrelevant to the point that it was trying to counter.
>>333417365
Please don't tell me you think DC does more events than Marvel. Please, I can't handle that amount of stupidity.
>>333417510
>A shitty qte and a pre-programed animation.
Have you ever played manhole
You covered people from falling and it wasn't a QTE
>>333417504
Yeah, that event is called being a better company and having better quality and content than DC
>>333417276
The problem is that the "re-imagined" concept of being a cop, is just being a murderer with a badge, and while in most games is not much of a problem, in a Superman game, it goes against the philosophy of the character
>>333417273
>there are cases of Batman shooting fucking Darkseid and winning among other asspulls but no one brings those up or complains
Darkseid was weakened and Batman still got Omega'd in the face
>>333417365
>compared to Marvel who is steady all the time
>steady all the time
kek
>>333406838
Just make it a sandbox game but cap his flight speed and strength and give him shit to do. Give it a stylish cel-shaded look so it can save the processor for loading the giant areas and keep the framerate smooth rather than cranking up graphical fidelity.
>>333417692
>is just being a murderer with a badge
Except for those game examples I just gave where you can take in criminals without killing them
>>333417651
Marvel's current output is almost entirely garbage though. I mean, fucking christ, you're really going to side with the company that puts out a comic book by Kate Leth? Or decides to have Bor, father of Odin, get censored into [red pill meninist crap]? Or throw the entirety of the X-Men under the bus because they don't have the fucking movie rights?
>>333406917
>>333407846
>>333408641
>>333411850
>he hasn't read All-Star Superman
>he hasn't read the excellent Kesel run of the 90s
>he hasn't read Superman: War of the Worlds
>he hasn't read Kingdom Come
>he hasn't read The Dark Knight Returns
>he hasn't watched the Fleischer shorts
>he hasn't watched the DCAU
wew lad
>>333416883
Nigga he runs as fast as the flash and then flash goes "Lolno I have SUPER TURBO" but he could literally do pretty much all the shit flash does, like emptying entire buildings of people in a second
>>333417013
That's why I put it in spoilers. because it was a joke. Supes is still a god.
>>333417085
Nigga like I said before Yeah he gets beaten and killed from time to time. EVERYONE does Specially someone as popular as superman. You know how often the Joker died? Robins dying is pretty much a running gag by now too.
like I said they're always coming up with some bullshit reason why Superman can get beaten to a pulp. There is always one guy, or some thing that has something or is something that can utterly destroy superman. sure.
BUT THE FACT IS: Baseline superman is a fucking invincible god. In the main canon, short of cryptonite and Darkseid nothing can fucking hurt him. You can smash planets on the dude. At one point it is said that he can hear every single humans heartbeat on the planet. HE IS A FUCKING GOD. and thus games as him would be boring. and if you depower him you might as well play any other hero really.
>>333409535
It's not even an S at that point its just a \
>>333417590
>Says that when DC needed to reboot their entire universe and shit in order to grasp consistent writing just recently
>Making it a moot point because they're bringing back old Superman who now has a son
You people and your delusions and proving that they only did it for a quick cash grab
>>333417651
Anon. It's ship>>333417832
>Or throw the entirety of the X-Men under the bus because they don't have the fucking movie rights?
That's pretty silly.
>>333406838
Just cause style open world. Rainbow siege full destructibility. Batman esq story style. >given objective do however you want. Cut a building in half with lazer eyes and throw it at the enemy? Sure. Fly through said building like a bat out of hell and then submerge outside of base walls like a mole and pop back up. OK. Become a human ICBM flying into space and back down in g shockwave to kill. Fine
>>333417651
>pulling out the feminist and sjw card on Marvel
really now?
>>333417912
>Marvel All New All Different
>two sets of x men running because time travel
Dumb as fuck
>>333408769
I like this idea, how come it hasn't been done yet?
>>333417912
DC only did the reboot for sales. Casuals always go into comics thinking they need to read 30 years of X-Men or Justice League just to understand what's going on.
>>333417959
Man I fucked that up. Now I know why I shouldn't mobilepost.
>>333417537
>>333417725
I knew this would get misinterpreted, I'm not complaining about the context of Final Crisis, Grant knew what he was doing and I skimmed over it so the discussion wouldn't (as it is now) spiral into a detour of comprehending the material, I wasn't complaining about comic books. I'm pointing out someone with bias towards street level characters will NEVER bring up events that might make a character seem absurd out of context like Batman but when discussing characters like Superman will only ever bring up his most infamously absurd ones.
This isn't about what you, I or anyone who reads the stuff knows this is about the people who don't and do not care.
>>333415737
Oh, and have heroes and villains show up in reaction to your choices. You can also decide on how you handle them, but of course they react much differently than the average crook or police officer.
In short, a Superman game should let you be the comic writer, not be constrained by the vision of one of several writers throughout Superman's publication and media history.
>>333417273
/v/ is filled with this shit. It's one of the more obtuse boards, I reckon. Probably reinforced by most anons here being young and skipping lurking straight to posting
>>333417819
And again, in those games, while maybe not murdering, you are still doing incredibly reckless shit, you show that you a cop, and he is going to spend the next 2 hours explaining you why a cop shouldn't never do like 90% of the thing you do in those games and how that is just an incredibly abuse of powers. And yes, that's just a re-imagination of his work. but there is a really specific reason to why is re imagined in the way is it. because >>333414241
If you give a player power he is going to abuse it
>>333417085
Post when superman got up more pissed off then ever and fucking murdered him
>>333417845
>BUT THE FACT IS: Baseline superman is a fucking invincible god. In the main canon, short of cryptonite and Darkseid nothing can fucking hurt him.
Man, you really want Superman to be invincible for some reason
>>333417510
First, you'd have to know the rail was broken. You'd hear that from the panic distress signals you picked up while flying around. Then you'd have to pin point where exactly the rail was broken. No way points, listen. What train is it, what's the usual route for that train. Is it East, West? Better hurry. Then it's a race to get to it in time before the train arrived. But there are other crimes or emergencies occurring that you pick up along the way. Do you stop, or do you keep going? At that point, you have to make a quick decision. Can you repair it in time? Is it even repairable? Can you stop the train in time safely? You want to act as a brake, not a wall.
You better hurry up, because the train is coming.
The entire gameplay mechanic isn't actually stopping the train. It's making the decisions in order to stop it safely.
In a modern game, they'd give you a marker, a way point, and stop all the other events so that you can focus on this one thing. Once you reach the destination, then your QTE cutscene would play.
Everything in today's vidya is heavily automated because developers are afraid of that not everyone will have fun the right way. Those devs are dumb and should stop pandering to them. They need to challenge them instead.
There are bright people, anon. They just lack the light to show them the way.
>>333415543
>>333416206
Why are Archie comics so needlessly edgy now?
>>333418652
Who the fuck would read it without? What is this, the 50s?
I hate to be that guy, but a Platinum Games Superman, something like a really hardcore beatemup with strong enemies, so you don't feel too overpowered.
>>333415994
It's to make villains look threatening, only to get 1-shotted later. It happens all the fucking time, look at how Superman handled Doomsday when he finally got pissed, 1-shotted with fucking eyebeams.
>>333413152
Maybe you shouldn't hold opinions based in ignorance?
>>333418652
because
>>333418806
Man, he looks really gay in the nu52. It's like they drained all his charisma out when they rebooted.
>>333418898
Okay, when has that happened? Don't you say doomsday because you're just flat out wrong about that.
>>333411526
>ignore the impiriex war
fuck you, /co/
>>333414241
Then make a villain mode where you can wreak havoc all you want as dudes like Bizarro, General Zod or Darkseid (think how cool guiding your Omega Beams around corners would be).
>>333418898
That only worked because they were shitty clones made with Apokoliptan technology. Batman was holding his own against those fucks.
>>333418815
Well you have that Injustice game. It's an OKish fightan game.
obviously lore wise it's complete BS because Catwoman can beat up Doomsday and stuff like that.
>>333417845
>Nigga he runs as fast as the flash and then flash goes "Lolno I have SUPER TURBO" but he could literally do pretty much all the shit flash does, like emptying entire buildings of people in a second
This is actually not true at all. Anti-Supermanfags not knowing what the fuck they're talking about, what a surprise.
The Flash is much, much faster than Superman. To a degree, Superman is still bound by the physics of reality. The Flash is not. Superman actually would not be able to empty out an entire building in a second. The Flash, however, could empty out an entire city in a second. Speed Force motherfucker, I ain't got to do shit.
The focus on open world kills these games.
make a God-Hand style (maybe not in gameplay, but in design) hardcore as fuck action game where nobody fucks around and everything tries to kill you. Splice in a few Asura's Wrath style huge QTEs.
>>333406838
I don't know about other stuff but when he faces bosses he doesn't have to cut back for do it like Bayonetta 1 where she unleashes her full powers and fights in wide open areas
>>333418996
To be fair, no one looks good after being backhanded into the moon. But I can agree that the New 52 costume was pretty garbage. Shitty armor lines, awful high collar, and they got rid of the red trunks. His rebirth costume, while not perfect, is a pretty huge improvement.
The solution is simple: make a CUHRAYZEE action game in the vein of Platinum's games or just get Platinum to do it. Work the gameplay around Superman's powerset and personality.
I'm too lazy to type this all up for the billionth time, but just go on from there.
Imagine the boss fights. The bosses could be absolutely incredible and would have you fight characters who are absolutely on Superman's level.
Boss rush game where you fight gigantic fights in stunning destructible arenas against iconic and powerful DC villains
>>333419512
>those product placements
>in fucking SMALLVILLE
gets me every time
>>333419512
>>333419718
They really went out if their way to get that 7-11 sign as much on screen time as possible
>>333409260
Where is that kid's lower body?
>>333419512
Where are those bullets going? They kind of disappear after they hit that Mary Sue.
>>333419718
>SMALLVILLE
This is the frustrating part. Superman 2 had several product placements, but they were in Times Square, a place that would look shatter immersion if it DIDN'T have product placements.
they didn't have Best Buy logos on Kent Farm.
>>333419512
>that 7-11 product placement
>that shit choreography
>that vomit inducing shaky camera and dumb zoom-in nonsense
Man, fuck DC movies.
>>333420169
>Mary Sue.
anon pls
>>333420169
That is not even close to what that word means and you fucking know it.
>>333418815
>>333419323
My niggas
Going in that sort of hardcore action-style is the only way a Superman game would work,if they decided to go in that direction. I could see a more story-based Superman game working as well, like a Telltale game or something. But fuck Telltale, they'd probably fuck it up somehow.It's all or nothing. If you want to have Superman punching shit in your game, may as well go all the fuck out.
>>333420169
>>333420229
Jesus christ, as someone who's a major DCfag but prefers the MCU, that fight scene was better than anything in the MCU.
>>333420498
Also how the fuck is Faora a Mary Sue? Are you dense?
>>333420424
>getting hit by bullets
>they do nothing at all cause I'm too powerful! :^)
>>333420442
it's a hyperbole.
>>333420498
>that fight scene was better than anything in the MCU.
>Better than Winter Soldier's fight scenes
AH! /tv/, HELP ME!
>>333420498
Maybe if the cinematography wasn't complete dogshit and didn't make me want to vomit it would be.
besides, it's Superman. I actually kind of like moralfag superheroes, now they've got him in movies where he kills hundreds of thousands of people and then makes out with Lois Lane in their ashes.
Man of Steel fucking sucked.
>>333406838
You would have to prepare several difficult psychological choices.¨
What is the most interesting about superman, to me as someone who cares not for comics, is the psychological side of him. His battle with himself as a, basically, god, with his own need to belong somewhere, to belong on Earth, with people.
From this you can create many instances.
If it's just a dumb OMG KILL 15THUGS it's shit.
>>333420695
I know right
>>333419718
What makes it best is that the colours of the movie are all muted but the brand logos are much brighter coloured. It's most noticeable on the SEARS and IHOP logos
>>333407547
the only time superman is ever interesting in comics is in alt universe stories where he becomes an evil tyrant
Give Supes a health bar. That's right, I said it. Regular bullets are harmless as usual but hits from high-tech weaponry or aliens with strength matching yours can put you down if you don't dodge and block. You might not die from it but you'll out cold long enough for the bad guys to get away or harm civilians, meaning you'll have to do the mission again.
Make it a Telltale/Life is Strange type games where you need to live the life of Clark Kent.
>>333420498
>that fight scene was better than anything in the MCU
>that filename
I know highspeed movement and environment destruction gets your willy hard, DBZfag, but there's more to action scenes than just large amounts of movement on the screen. It was garbage and I'd be willing to say that someone could psot a webm of something from the MCU and it'd likely be better than anything from MoS or BvS by a landslide and I don't even like the MCU.
>>333420695
To be fair, those were the only ones that were comparable. I also liked the action sequences in IM1 and the Avengers but they really weren't as good as the scenes in MoS or BvS either.
>>333420714
>besides, it's Superman. I actually kind of like moralfag superheroes, now they've got him in movies where he kills hundreds of thousands of people and then makes out with Lois Lane in their ashes.
Blame Zack Snyder and blame WB for putting Zack Snyder in charge.
>>333420774
It's these rare moments I share with random nameless people that make me happy in life.
>>333420871
>Give Supes a health bar.
This. Just give him regenerating health to a degree, like NG2. I don't know why people are opposed to this idea.
>>333411526
Where's the It's a Bird anon?
>>333420981
or just have forced sneaking segments where you get a game over if you get spotted, the excuse being that there is a red sun, and you can't punch them either as it would ruin the immersionlol no, make a game about an interesting super hero like shazam instead
>>333419236
I'm not anti superman. I'm just saying why he doesn't make great video games. Because he is an invincible god that can only be beat by contrived reasons the writer at hand comes up with. Yeah yeah the flash is the fastest being alive. but there have been plenty of occasions where superman traveled around the planet in less than a second or showed other feats of super speed that in reality would destroy the fucking planet. Fuck. at time's he even travelled across fucking space in search for others. Traveling what? Billions of light years in a short amount of time?
Superman is god. Period. Yes from time to time they injure god, from time to time they kill god, from time to time they beat god at chess. But baseline, before any other factors he is a fucking god.
>>333421297
Eat a dick.
Do want a Shazam game, though.
superman is a very uninteresting character. he's instantly recognized but when we actually put him in something it's clear how boring and unrelatable he really is
he has almost no personality or personal conflict apart from the whole parents adopting an alien and finding out his true identity that's as much personal depth as it goes. this is why he barely gets any movies
he has no personality. except for the fact he is relentlessly good. that's it. he's good because that's who he is. no weaknesses except kryptonite which people are fed up of because that's all there is everytime
once he's an adult and is superman there is nothing else. no lessons to learn. no challenges to overcome. he's has already reached full potential of ridiculously powerful nice man. that's all there is
>>333420893
>Blame Zack Snyder and blame WB for putting Zack Snyder in charge.
You can't Blame WB for MoS, you need to blame them for letting him direct another movie after that travesty. BvS is an even steamier piece of shit.
>>333421297
>Shazam
You realize a Shazam game would play like a Superman game right? Or maybe even worse since fucking CAPTAIN MARVEL (and not Shazam btw) doesn't have the superpowers that Superman has, meaning less variety overall.
>>333421328
That's a total misconception of Superman's power level though. There have been enemies and even other allies who are on his level though. You just don't read comic books.
Superman is terrible as an action character. The conflicts of his character is what makes him who he is. A telltale game would be a better fit than any action game
>>333420893
>To be fair, those were the only ones that were comparable
They're not comparable. Winter Soldier's fight scenes were well choreographed. Man of Steel just had shit go in and out. Most of the things you remember from the fight scenes were bad things like the awful product placement, Superman allowing destruction to happen and looking back like it was nothing, video game tier air fights or snapping necks. There isn't a single move or moment that stands out that makes any of the fights intense or give them weight.
Hell, the original Superman movie had way more tension in its final climax and not a single punch was thrown. The explosions weren't even directly visible either.
>>333421328
>Because he is an invincible god that can only be beat by contrived reasons the writer at hand comes up with
Dude, just stop already
>>333420885
OK somebody will surely post that super exciting fight scene from the mcu
but you can get the enemy to an area without risk (as a forest), the city bar would be filled according to the player's performance in the mission. If you bring the enemy to a new area of combat there would be a new counter until the area is evacuated.
the boss fights cause massive damage not only the city (every punch would cause an explosion) but also for Superman, enemies like Darkseid, Doomsday, Mongul, Bizzaro would use brute strength and other powers, enemies like Toyman and MXY need the player to think in forms as defeat them, Toyman would use hostages and MXY would be a puzzle game that need the player to wear the Superman powers to move from stage to the next stage, enemies like Metallo and parasite need the player to fight against them without going into too much physical contact. Common enemies could be Parademons, space gladiators, robots and all these enemies have variations such as faster or stronger enemies, but also have special types of enemies that could mini bosses, they could be huge or common size, these would be more powerful and would give good fights.
>>333421469
>You can't Blame WB for MoS, you need to blame them for letting him direct another movie after that travesty.
You could say the same about MoS though. They let him direct the Superman reboot after literally every other movie he did received a lukewarm reception.
>>333421528
>You just don't read comic books.
I hate this shit non-rebuttal, if you believe this shit then perhaps you don't read comics. Superman is a plot device character, he is as strong as the plot demands he be. Some comics he might get beaten up and others he's unstoppable. This goes for literally all fucking comic characters. Sometimes Flash can destroy the universe by farting and other times he runs into Deathstrokes sword
But when plot demands it, yes, Supes is a fucking God and has beaten down numerous REAL Gods before.
>>333421439
>This post
>>333421528
He is named Shazam™ now, deal w/ it, and as Shazam™ he could have tutorial levels as billy batson, probably starting from his origin or reminiscing about it, having gameplay of him being a kid and others on his powered form, vulnerabilities or something to relate which superman lacks
>>333421829
Son, it depends on the continuity and the writer.
Some versions of Superman are crazy powerful. Some others really aren't all that powerful either, like Golden Age Superman, DCAU Supes, etc. It all depends on the version of the character.
>>333421469
I really fucking hate what Warner Bros are doing to the DC cinematic universe. Every single one of their live action films is fucking garbage.
The TV shows seem to be okay, even going back to 60s Batman, and the animated series and movies are fucking fantastic. All they had to do was adapt those, but instead they go for this tryhard edgelord shite and keep producing Batman films that completely lack the spirit of the comics. Even the Adam West Batman was more in-tune with the comics than the mediocre Nolan trilogy.
And the games aren't much better. As OP states, the Superman games have always been absolute wank.
The only real good comic book game WB ever managed to publish was Arkham Asylum, and that was only because Rocksteady based the concepts of all the story an characters in that game on various Batman comics; it was a true product of just pure love for the batman universe. It's a shame the same can't be said for the rest of that series.
>>333406917
Catch 22. The only way to make Superman interesting would be to take away or ridiculously nerf his powers to the point that he stops being Superman because the powers are all there is to his character.
>>333421901
>vulnerabilities or something to relate which superman lacks
You mean like Kryptonite, which you could do something with gameplay with?
Captain Marvel on the other hand, has no Achilles' heel.
>>333406838
The player need to feel the freedom behind a character who is god, but unchained by the morality of his actions:
1. Make the player take choice:
Who should I save? This guy is a disgusting murderer, should I kill him? I can if I want...
2. Make the mind of Clark an important point of the game:
If you don't save people or kill someone, Clark Will change and the game too.
3. Make the power of Superman a source of management:
If you don't hold your superpower, you will ravage the city and you will be see as an ennemy
4. You can be a savior le a destructor, the balance between the two is the key of the game.
The game is about how hard is it to be a "good guy", a good hero.
>>333421954
More often than not he is incredibly powerful and saves the day, it's part of his character. Why Supesfans deny this is beyond me. The character is so strong he could beat Goku, and when you are stronger than DBZ characters you have gone off the deepend.
>>333422080
Supes achilles heel only works sometimes which is why people say he has no weakness. Depending on the writer, he might just entirely ignore his kryptonite weakness
>>333421328
>still saying superman is god after being proven wrong
>b-but those don't count because I say so
Wonder Woman can beat him in close quarters combat.
Batman is smarter than him.
Flash is faster than him and breaks reality with his speed more than Superman can break reality with his strength.
Darkseid is more powerful than him in the majority of their encounters.
Doomsday was purely more powerful in every way before he became aware and turned into a massive pussy.
He had trouble with an Imperiex drone with the help of Mogul.
He's been beaten into the dirt by multiple heroes.
And Superman himself is not omnipotent, has a massive weakness to magic and a glowing rock, and is limited by a power source. He's infinitely powerful or fast given enough time but he can only crank out so much strength or speed at any given moment due to time or his power source restricting it. There's a reason he has to sunbathe to do the more ridiculous shit he does. Because he's not all-powerful and he's not god.
>>333412751
Supes don't want no fake titties, he can see the scars with his x ray vision
>>333422080
>Only kryptonite, magic or an asspull, no real sense of doom whatsoever
While Shazam™ can turn back with simple electricity or easily taken out as a kid
>>333422360
>Superman is totally weak though
Man Marvel heroes must be weak as shit considering Supes has beaten the shit out of Thor and the Hulk
>>333422313
>More often than not he is incredibly powerful and saves the day, it's part of his character.
You could say the exact same thing about most other comic book superheroes.
>>333422313
>Supes achilles heel only works sometimes which is why people say he has no weakness. Depending on the writer, he might just entirely ignore his kryptonite weakness
That was only in All Star Superman and Kingdom Come, two alternate versions of the character. In mainstream continuity, he is basically always vulnerable to Kryptonite.
>>333421901
>I've never been in love, had a job, felt like I don't have enough time to do what I want instead of what I need, or felt the pressure of my own morality clashing with reality
Of course you wouldn't relate to superman, you're probably a miserable neet
If supes is so weak and medoerate in power, why do writers constantly use him as the God being to save the big event of the year for the comics?
They should have Bayonetta-like finishers where he starts doing really crazy shit, like pushing planets or holding closed the fabric of the universe, or lifting infinity.
It'd be hard to incorporate that stuff regularly into gameplay, but as kind of a coup de grace to a big point of the story, it'd come off well.
I would make a Superman game that allows you to be good, classic boy scout Supes or evil tyrant or destruction Supes based on the player's actions within the game. There'd be tons of objects to do around various cities and the player has to decide which events they want to attend to but they can't attend to them all. They can also employ different tactics that may take away people's civil liberties and freedoms in the name of saving more people. Give the player the choice to walk the moral tightrope.
>>333422586
more like
>I have never been an invulnerable mary sue
if I wanted superpowered prince of persia 2008 I would have asked for it sooner
>>333422072
It's pretty easy really. You make a game kind of like Prototype/Infamous/SRIV where you start off as a fully-powered superman fighting the villain, but then he fucking reks you in an epic fight with Kryptonite poisoning, and you get knocked out (easter egg: Justice league beats the boss).
After the credits roll, we get that typical cliche of starting the game with none of the powers got teased with at the start, and you have to stay incognito as Clarke Kent until the Kyrptonite is out of your system and it's safe to reveal yourself again.
>Gradually gain more powers while doing shit in a sandbox Central City
>Team-up with other DC universe superheroes in stylised missions found throughout the game world
>Jimmy Olson as your in-game mentor
>Can play as Clarke too and do missions for the Daily Planet
>Eventually unlock Fortress of Solitude as your "hideout", upgrade it as the game progresses
Escalate to completion. It's not fucking difficult; these types of game are a dime a dozen nowadays. The key factor in making the game not shit is to keep the spirit of the Superman character, reinforcing the key themes of his comics. Basically just don't make half the game driving around in the fucking Supermobile you stupid cunts.
>>333410586
This could be nice.The kryptonite whatever wears off in the last phase of the final boss, making supes invincible for the remainder of the fight and gives you max rank+1 of all your abilities, game doesn't continue after end credits
>>333422313
>is so strong he could beat Goku
Maybe twice for every three times Goku beats him.
>>333422494
I don't know where I typed that but feel free to explain the part where you put words in my mouth.
You tout him as an invincible god and I refute that by showing that he's weaker than a good bit of actual godlike characters and flawed in ways that give other heroes a huge edge on him and you give me this garbage. Fuck off.
>>333410547
God I wish InFamous was on pc.
I love superhero games and its the best for a good open world with fun powers that isn't too OP.
Prototype being the key offender.
Seriously considering getting a PS4 for Second Son alone.
>>333422784
>having a life makes you a Mary sue
>>333422286
>If you don't hold your superpower, you will ravage the city and you will be see as an enemy
This is actually a good idea, and quite easy if you put Lex in the game. If you use your powers, Lex uses that to turn the people of the city against you, convincing them that you are just a dangerous alien and can only bring harm and destruction more than good.
Only by committing altruistic acts would you gain favour or reputation, and you'd need a certain percentage or w/e of this stat to progress the main story.
>>333422313
>The character is so strong he could beat Goku, and when you are stronger than DBZ characters you have gone off the deepend.
Goku ain't shit. Magical girls would shit in his bowl of rice
>>333422494
He barely beat Thor and honestly, Hulk has no business being as strong as he is. Thor can strike with enough force to destroy planets, but Hulk still gives him a hard time? Nah.
>>333422696
>why do writers constantly use him as the God being to save the big event of the year for the comics?
Because he's the flagship character
>>333422891
>weaker than a God
>has beaten the shit out of both Aris and Thor and several other Gods
pretty sure Supes is stronger than a DC/Marvel God
>>333423170
Marvel has flagship characters but allows them to have weaknesses and flaws. Spiderman doesn't always save the day, Tony stark was a fucking alcoholic etc. What is Supes demons? What was Supermans Gwen stacy?
>>333422942
>Seriously considering getting a PS4 for Second Son alone.
Don't. It's a major step back from the previous games
Why would a Superman game have to be an action game?
>>333423448
>>333423507
I wouldn't say major step back but yeah compared to Infamous 2 it's pretty disappointing.
>>333423448
He can't save everyone, and people keep sending him fucking snail mail about their dead cancer moms.
>>333423170
>Goku ain't shit
Character can literally destroy the fabric of reality with a kamehameha. DBZ characters don't have those bizzarely stupid OP types of powers like "My stands power is it nullifies everyone elses powers!". Instead they just have the very childish concept of "This character can shoot a laser beam that's like a million trillion billion nuclear bombs"
>>333423314
He beat a weakned Ares and a lot of people beat on Thor.
>>333423448
>>333423448
You're right, our hero's should toil in the dirt like we do. They should be miserable, not able to solve anything, and barely be hero's. You shouldn't have to aspire to anything better than yourself but instead mentally masturbate about how you're just like the genius super model fucking spiderman
>>333406917
Nice meme.
>>333423610
That's not really a failure. That's not being 100% perfect but what was Supes defining moment where he failed to save the day?
>Superman has all these villains has are galactic threats and conquer planets, and fight on massive scales
>Let's make him depowered and you beat up robbers
:/
>>333423705
Pretty sure Supes beats Ares in Injustice when Ares states he is "more powerful than he has ever been before" due to some global conflict
>>333423752
Injustice
>>333423609
The world felt empty as fuck, the main guy (Desmond?) Wasn't a patch on Cole, the powers looked cool but even endgame felt a bit weak. Considering Infamous 2 was one of my favourite PS3 games, ID say second son was a definite step back
The game should be built around destruction. You can destroy anything and it will be spectacular, but the more shit you destroy the worse your karma gets and the more powerful the final boss is. Basically, I think the Infamous formula coupled with quality destruction would work really well.
>>333423731
A character without legitimate flaws isn't an interesting character. Even the Gods of myth thousands of years ago had character flaws.
>>333423705
Context? All I see is his adoptive father died but that's not him failing, so what's the context?
>>333423849
Pretty much the only one I can remember and it ended with him becoming a tyrant, which is honestly how a lot of alt Superman shit goes
>failure turns Superman into an authoritarian
>>333420869
Nope. That concept is boring and played out.
>>333423752
His dad's death, his other dad's death, the death of new krypton, the loss of his son, the life of lex Luther, off the top of my head. All though not every character is defined by the darkness of their life but by their ability to stand up brave in the face of it.
>>333413746
check mate kids
>>333409038
What you proposed there seems fine and dandy and all.
But hear me out, what if... we let him fly through an endless barrage of golden rings?
I mean everyone loves golden rings.
>>333424015
>Context? All I see is his adoptive father died but that's not him failing, so what's the context?
The Movie sums it up best
"All those things I can do... All those powers... And I couldn't even save him"
>>333424015
Superman is naive, feels alone often, and feels the pressures of the world mistakenly believing he's a God.
>>333424363
Make the rings green
>>333423597
Because Superman is in Action Comics, not "Sit Around and suffer Existential Angst" Comics.
We finally have the technology to do justice to the kind of game Superman's abilities warrant, and it would be a crime not to do it.
If Batman can have a press-counter-to-win simulator, Superman can have a game where he can fucking punch things at will.
>>333424015
He failed to save him when Pa had a heart attack
>>333424491
You earned yourself a promotion Mr.
>>333422718
So basically you want Asura's Wrath but with Supes?
>>333423827
Well he suckered punched Ares once and then Diana went to town on him
>>333424751
>>defeating the god of war
>>by beating him up really hard
Comics are fucking dumb
>>333406838
You can't. Superman was never made as a character primarily to fight people like Batman. That's why Batman gets good games: Video games are about fighting enemies.
Superman is about saving people. He is typically invincible against the average gangbanger or natural disaster. IT's not a case of whether Superman survives but if eveyrone else does
>>333424696
Yes? Is that so wrong?
Fuck it, if casuals are just gonna think Superman's overpowered, then let's go apeshit with it.
>>333423448
Superman's greatest weakness is actually just that- the fact that he always has to save the day.
His weakness is his mind. In the many confrontations Supes has had with Lex and Sinestro, people he could literally crush with his fucking eyelashes, they have beaten him with mind games. It's the kind of stuff that really distinguishes a lot of DC writers from Marvel comics.
>>333424015
No I agree with you. I need all characters to have flaws to interested by them. Wouldn't superman be more interesting if he beat Lois or was a heroin addict?
>>333425023
>countless billions
>>333424542
Supes screaming "PA!" always makes me cry
PC exclusive so the devs can go all out on processing power. Have his power level be built as
Early game = Smallville power level.
Mid game = Timmverse Power level.
End game = Standard power level.
The Super boss is a fight with Batman with Clark refusing to use his powers and the fight is nigh unwinnable so DC can get their mandatory Batwank out of the way.I was honestly expecting Superman to show up in Gotham after Scarecrow bombed the place in Arkham Knight.
>>333425257
>>333424954
Pretty sure her sword is magical. Also being a god of war doesn't make him immune to beatings. Otherwise Zeus would be in trouble if Ares ever started shit with him
>>333425374
>Clark refusing to use his powers
Or make it happen after a catastrophic event that weakens him and have batman use kryptonite.
>>333406838
Why don't they start by reading the comic books and coming up with ideas that matches the themes and in those stories instead of just having you do a bunch of standard video game tasks?
>>333425792
That sounds like work. Let's just make a mobile game with a cash shop and call it a day.
>>333426027
Infinite runner it is
>>333416836
>he is a blatant Batman ripoff
Nah. In his earliest incarnation he was an actual superhuman, then moved onto being an actual schizoid who could think like four other superheroes at a time, and then in his most recent incarnation he has MPD.
And all of his personalities are city-level heroes.
>>333425664
Since the idea I had it mind was that the Superboss would just be a casual "Hey Clark, let's see how your CQC skills have come along", Supes not using his powers would be best. TDKR as a boss fight would be more a proper narrative ending boss.
>>333411526
Is there any required reading to lead up to Kingdom Come, or is it self encapsulated?
>>333423114
You could even start the game with an event that Lex uses to turn the city completely against you, and you need to slowly build Superman's reputation back.
>>333427275
Nah, Elseworld stories are self-contained what-if's and shit like that
May as well ask here since it's a Superman thread.
I just finished season 4 of Smallville and I'm starting season 5 soon enough. Do they tone down on the teen drama now that the high school arch is over?
>TFW Christopher Reeve only appeared in two episodes before dying.
>>333427656
I'm on to you
>>333425458
>I can save everybody
Fuck you anon.;_;
>>333406838
vidya hasn't reached the point where it can accurately portray supes in an exciting way. Nothing to be ashamed of. Even tv and film fail at this
>>333428167
Did they tone down the teen drama in Buffy after the high school arc was over?
spoiler:the answer is FUCK NO
It's WB/TheCW, what were you expecting?!
Take BvS and do the exact opposite
>>333428378
I've never watched Buffy. I'm so horribly behind on TV that I didn't bother with the DCAU until 2014.
>>333428478
>Zack Snyder is still set to direct Justice League
It's insane that WB has no fucking idea what it's doingand I even liked BvS.
>>333428167
>Do they tone down on the teen drama now that the high school arch is over?
No.Smalville is maximum comfy from start to end, though, so keep it up, anon
>>333406838
Do an Octodad-like game but with Superman.
>>333427620
That's basically what Superman does in the plot of Injustice. Enacts a new world order and peacekeeping police in Gotham that causes everyone to lose trust in him.
>>333428582
I was just making a reference to all CW (formerly WB) shows in general; I forgot most people here aren't 30 years old.
>>333423448
>What is Supes demons? What was Supermans Gwen stacy?
He's not human and he never can be, so he'll never really understand humanity
He can't save everyone
His biggest shame is actually that a regular human can ruin his day like nothing. Constantly.
Oh, and he'll drop everything to protect what he considers family.
>>333407471
Which comic is this from?
>>333409260
Is that half a baby?
Did Superman rip the fucking toddler's upper body away from the lower one?
Fucking brutal.
>>333429370
Where they're going, they don't need feet to walk.
>superman thread without anyone mentioning One-Punch Man
All you have to do is make him like One-Punch Man. Make him an unstoppable killing machine that is too apathetic to be heroic. Then show his gradual understanding of what true heroism is, and how being a god has nothing to do with that.
Then throw in Lois Lane/Wonderwoman with Tatsumaki's body and you're fucking golden
>>333406838
Make it like a Gravity Rush game but with more movement during the "kick" attacks.
>>333429643
>Make him an unstoppable killing machine that is too apathetic to be heroic
So make him literally not Superman?
Because Clark Kent has been a goody two shoes since he was fucking born.
>>333429468
TopKek
>>333429643
>>333429746
Yeah, the entire point of Superman is he was raised as a Human; his humanity is the absolute cornerstone of his identity, and the exact thing that STOPS him from being a complete killing machine in the first place, and why he villainises murder so much.
a citybuilder-esque game would be the most appropriate.
a city of people, a counter counting the deaths, and the game is just a top-down macroperspective of where shit can fuck up and how to spend your resources to cause the least amount of harm.
>>333411480
Yes, that would be great. And how about some major objectives can be solved multiple ways, each branching out into different objectives later on.
>>333408641
Himouto is fucking shit.
>Superman gets Kryptonite cancer engineered by LL and another mystery force
>play through the game fighting villains and minions starting w/ 60% of full power
>gradually grow weaker as time goes on as struggle grows and enemies easily defeated at the onset become final boss tier at the end
>have to rely on the allies of JL more and more
>finally die on deathbed, a decaying husk of once Superman.
>play as Lex Luthor
>mysterious force becomes too powerful and turns on LL
>regret
>LL uses all of his power to combat mysterious force
>within an inch of death, gives cure to Martian Man Hunter
>Earth on verge of apocalyptic destruction from mysterious force
>enter 100% Superman
>worldwide>spacefinalbattleoftheages.exe
>universe saved
>tears are shed
>credits roll
>>333429960
But it's kind of a moot point when he's just doing it because he's supposed to. I want to see him BECOME a hero, not just be born that way. True heroism is stepping up when no one else ever would. Sure, he CAN kill any monster that attacks earth, but why would he care? I want to see him grow into that, not just be that way because some farmers told him to.
>>333429643
You're fucking retarded, I take it you don't know shit about Superman other than Hack Snyder movies.
>>333430361
I understand that you want that story told but you shouldn't use an already establish character that doesn't fit in it
>>333430320
11/10
>>333430381
Hey I watched Smallville buddy.
>>333430361
The entire point of a Superman video game would be that YOU, THE PLAYER would want to be a hero.
What you want is a movie with interactive segments thrown in between cutscenes that tell the story of Superman.
>>333430361
So you don't want want a Superman game, you want a Superboy or Captain Marvel game. Because Superman is already that person, he's already a genuinely caring, compassionate, friendly, and empathetic person.
>>333430320
Looks like the rock dude on the right is smiling there but it seems like it's just his head brow wrinkles making it look like a smiling mouth.
well for starters you don't play as Clark Kent throughout the whole game and you actually get to play as fucking superman
unlike some games i know
>>333430597
Kind of?
It doesn't make sense for Superman to be your regular vidya character. He doesn't have a healthbar he's fucking immortal. You can't lose. But what's a game without a lose condition?
>>333430804
"rock dude"
>>333430957
Some anons in this thread already solved that in separate ways. You just lack vision, I guess.
>>333430957
>he's fucking immortal
He isn't.
>You can't lose. But what's a game without a lose condition?
You're only thinking about Superman being KO'd.
>>333430957
Kirby epic yarn?
>>333430979
Sorry, I don't read comics so I've no idea who he is.
>>333430979
Right? How could he not recognising Darkseid lmao
>>333430804
He looks like the feel guy in that pic
>>333430957
>he's fucking immortal.
>You can't lose.
Read comics before talking shit
>>333430320
I'd play the shit out of this.
>>333431101
>>333431065
But that's exactly my point. Others dying isn't much of a lose condition when you don't give two shits about them. To Superman they're just cardboard cutouts of people he HAS to save for some arbitrary reason. And what if you lose? Just cut back to the last checkpoint? When in a game has that ever made you feel anything but frustration?
My suggestion is:
A Superman game where people can really die, the choices matter, and the sacrifices truly make him heroic. That's easiest to do with a Telltale-style game, but other games have done it as well.
>>333430596
Read All Star Superman, it's about him dying. It's one of his best comics and a great insight to his character.
I don't know why people want to keep supes de-powered. If you go that route you might as well just start off in smallville as superboy.
>>333428690
This is what guys like Snyder miss about Supes.
He considers himself on the same level as the average beat cop. He has to be humble.
>>333431652
Superman is love. Wherever you got your info on him from his like the opposite of true.
>>333429189
Injustice: Gods Among Us
>>333406838
Fuck Superman make a Captain Marvel game.
>>333431718
That cop was pretty ballsy. He sees two dudes in tights, thinks they're up to shit and walks right up to them
>>333431714
Having all that power from the beginning is boring IMO. Unless it would just be a flashy CUHRAZEE QTE type game like Asura's Wrath.
>>333432014
Both could have great games.
>>333431652
You've completely missed the point of Superman.
What if at the start of the game, Luthor has injected you with a kyptonite virus that makes you lose all your powers.
You go to Batman and he gives you an antidote that "takes time to fully eliminate the virus" but you're superman and can't let Luthor do what he wants.
So through the game you slowly get back your full powers while fighting ever increasingly strong enemies. Batman is your navigator, helping you along the way and making witty banter.
>>333432662
should chill w/
>>333430320
>>333416669
learn to read
>>333416669
All those Star Wars comics. Fucking Christ I wish Dark Horse still had the License.
What should happen is Luthor should put all these rings around Metropolis that Superman has to fly through.
The only real way you could do Superman justice is by having Supes be 100% from start to finish, with the controls dictating how much of Supes' power you put behind your attacks, with the focus being on controlling your power and trying NOT to destoy everything.
You could even have segments in the game where something happens and the controls become wonky and the players control of Superman's strength becomes erratic.
Health bar and Solar Power that both regenerate over time and normal henchmen punches and bullets won't harm you.
Reputation/Karma system that turns the city of Metropolis to either cheer you or loathe you. Wanton destruction causes the city to turn against you.
>>333433058
And he'll have to start all over again if he misses one cause that's the rules.
>>333415543
GLUK
>>333416206
What book is this from?I want to fuck Sabrina
>>333430979
ikr what retard doesn't know who the thing is lmfao
>>333433563
I think its like...Archie vs Sharknado
I'm not even making this up.
Easy. Rocksteady.
Next
What about a game where you're a villain and you have to evade Superman? Doesn't feel like it could be full length though.
>>333434008
>start the game
>commit a crime
>instantly picked up by superman and taken to jail
>The End
Uuuuuuuuh.
>>333434008
>evading superman
>>333433810
huh, so it is.
And why the hell does Sharknado have three movies?
You design it after the Dead Rising games
>>333434258
Several criminals have gotten away with crime under Superman's nose.
Pic related has met Superman face-to-face (and even had a pleasant conversation with him), is technically a supervillain, and has never been caught by him. Even though he's one of the most dangerous contract killers aliev.
>>333434258
>superman attends every crime in the world ever
>people never find superman's weaknesses or anything
wew
>How do we make a Superman game, /v/?
>Let's take away all his fucking powers!
>>333424015
>A character without legitimate flaws isn't an interesting character.
You don't always need a character wallowing in perpetual Parker luck problems to be worth something, if anything that heavy handed style of hackneyed writing has become stale and uninteresting above all else. People who feel it speaks to them just tolerate it. Except for whatever reason unlike people who feel a decent person simply helping others speaks to them these anti-hero sort can't tolerate the stories of others and need to tell everyone else a shift in tone is needed.
It's utter nonsense. The writers got so concerned with Peter keeping that image it not only escalated but culminated in his worst hour: dealing with Mephisto to save one aspect of his life by sacrificing the other. Just like Gwen Stacy it boils down to contrived, needless see-saw theatrics that are completely unrelatable yet are lauded as somehow more "realistic" than other superhero scenarios. How? When has anyone had to save their girlfriend from some asshole in a goblin costume? Straight out of soap opera.
Squeezing the-writer-will-never-let-you-quite-win drama sponge dry gets as much result as the "hero always saves the day" clause.
Worse a lot of modern superpower fiction stories quickly do not make compromise and simply turn into a bipolar power fantasy/pity party combo where nothing gets resolved in this endless chain of misfortunes where our hero is beating senseless criminals while also thinking how the girl he loves is with the guy he hates and they have a dark secret only YOU the reader know leading into the next saga and for fuck's sake just go to the letters page.
>>333434521
Anyone got the page?
I've seen it float around
Just do a low-key Superman origin story. You play Clark Kent as he starts acting like a superhero, learning the limits of his powers, encountering long-term nemeses, developing a strong moral code, and generally growing into the role of Superman. Have him be a more traditionally charismatic and sincere version of Spiderman. Young, spunky, but doe-eyed, and innocent youth who's just trying to help people. Don't just dump the costume and Jor-El on him, have that be a long term thing. Make it an open world game kind of like that Lego Marvel game crossed with Saint's Row 4. Starts in Smallville, eventually moves to Metropolis.
Basically just make a better, videogame version of Man of Steel.
>>333434521
Didn't they work together even?
>>333434865
He gave Superman a lead, but that's about it I think.
Hell, even Batman didn't out-think him, which is impressive, given his superpowers are X-Ray vision and limited telepathy.
>>333434694
It's an entire issue actually
>>333434865
yeah, JLA/Hitman
>>333406838
make a Multiversity game
I'd like to see a sandbox game similar to Majora's Mask. Supes is stuck in a timeloop for some reason, and your goal is to break the time loop. You progress by gathering information (instead of masks) that you unlock permanently that can open up new areas and dialog trees. I feel like some time management choices could be interesting, like choosing to pursue a relationship with Lois or stopping petty crime. It would be cool in the characters (like Lois) would react if you reveal Clark's secret identity to them on purpose or by accident, making the task of switching identities non-trivial.
>>333435716
>black dynamite superman
ultraman's fucked
>>333436015
>Black Dynamite
That's Sunshine Superman.
>>333436250
My bad. I didn't see the lack of a mustache.
>>333410515
There are beings more powerful than Superman.
Could a Shonen style Superman story similar to DBZ work?
>>333437471
One Punch Man is basically that
basically a an invincible hero who can take on any villain but when he saves the day it's satisfying
>>333437661
Lel no it isn't.
>>333423448
He is basically all alone in the universe.
>>333437661
I mean Superman not starting out as an invincible Mary Sue, kind of like like DBZ power levels.
>>333438324
you mean a young Superman game?
could just do a Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes game
have him lower powered AND among other superbeings to make sure he isn't to powerful
>>333406917
First post is always best post.
Superman is shit .
>>333424542
I love how Lex luthor go insane in that comic.
>>333437471
Something closer to the original Dragon Ball, maybe.
The vigilante adventurer Superman from the 40s to the 70s is where he's worked best action-wise, and where gameplay-wise would fit well, where he would go on all kinds of adventures and face foes with batshit insane abilities, and where the bulk of the fights were him dissecting the enemy's abilities or trying to poke a hole in their defenses before unleashing super-punches.
>>333429643
>One-Punch Man
>Then show his gradual understanding of what true heroism is, and how being a god has nothing to do with that.
Saitama is a hero for fun.
>>333437661
No. Not at all.
Jesus Christ. Superman has been around for nearly 80 years, had 2 critically acclaimed and commercially successful films, numerous TV adaptions and various retellings and sib series to get new readers into the character.
How is it that people still manage to not understand the damn character? What's so confusing about truth, justice and the American way?
>>333437471
No because Superman babies can't have Superman being weak, most of them will just drop everything because why can't superman punch the sun away since in muh Gary Stu comics he can.
>>333439183
This place is full of cynics and lost hopes.
A character and the idea of Superman is completely lost to them.
>>333439183
Which one is this?
![51ArHBfG5JL._SX323_BO1,204,203,200_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/keNqFp3.jpg "51ArHBfG5JL. SX323 BO1,204,203,200 [1]")
>>333439683
Brainiac.
Read the whole thing if you can.;_;
>>333439183
People do understand him, it's just that he's a shittier unaging version of a typical Shonen MC, a Shonen MC that actually grows as a character.
>>333439585
Not at all, he's just fucking cliche and overused at this point.
He's simply boring.
>>333439903
I personally felt that whole arc was overrated.
>>333440086
>People do understand him
This thread explicitly proves otherwise
You can't. where is the fun in playing a character who could never lose?
5th Dimension Supes is the best for video games. Shit would be a giant mindfuck with quirky puzzles
>>333440367
Why do you not read Superman comics?
>>333436250
Is this the earth where Tumblr won?
>>333406838
Superman as a character is just too generic.
Change his character and make him like Swordboy that only helps people because he's literally wrong in the head. Explore that in a game where he truly struggles with himself and muh heroism. What does his heroism mean. Let him reach his own conclusions by facing his enemies and by seeing how people are affected by things, not because muh pa kent told him to.
Then you can think about the gameplay but first thing is making Superman a good character, or an actual character.
>>333440975
>Is this the earth where Tumblr won?
After making the Flash a nigger instead of introducing a new character, reading Batman going on about #BlackLivesMatter and beating up cops I think the main universe is the earth where tumblr won.
DC is pure garbage.
>>333441096
>let's make a superman game by not making superman
>>333441096
It is like you haven't been reading the thread.
>>333440975
No, that's the earth where hippies won.
>>333441096
Is /v/ too edgy that they cannot understand benevolence
>>333441096
I will never understand when people are unironically or ironically trying to push Shirou as a good character.
>>333441485
Whats the difference?
>>333441619
Hippies love to get nude, smoke and fuck
Tumblrinas would want to censor as much as possible because it could lead to body shaming.
>>333441619
Hippies have better weed and don't discriminate.
>>333441498
I will never understand when people are unironically or ironically trying to deny Shirou being a good character.
But then again I'm talking to a Supesfag
>>333441619
Hippies are about peace and love abd acceptance
tumblr is about how i, spicifically, am super special and awesome abd talented and kind and just. If you like me then thank you if you hate me then fuck you.
>>333428690
Which comic is this from?
>>333414196
How is generation z going to turn out? People born early 2000's-2010.
>>333441295
Did you read my post? That was exactly my point. Superman is a shit character so if you want to make a good game you need to give him a personality or something that makes him good.
> first thing is making Superman a good character, or an actual character.
He's literally "muh hero", boring. There's nothing that makes him stand out, he's too generic. A game with a character like that would be boring as shit.
>But he wants to save everyone because he's a good boy!
Why do I care? at least give me a reason to care, give me a reason as to why he does those things. Why should I lose my shit over saving fake people just because Superman kinda likes to do it?
it'd probably be a lot harder than a Flash game
>>333442376
>He's literally "muh hero", boring.
Because you haven't read the comics.
Fuck off.
>>333415336
>Letting Zach Snyder direct ALL of your movies.
What the fuck were they thinking?
>>333442376
So you don't know shit about Superman or designing games, got it
>>333437471
eh, boku no hero academia?
>>333442376
>Why do I care? at least give me a reason to care, give me a reason as to why he does those things.
Because, surprise, not everyone's an edgy teenager like you. He's an honestly good person and he has been since birth, and he wants to repay the debt to humanity by letting him live there by saving it no matter how great the threat. He does it for no actual pay, even though he's capable of forcing it, and instead of taking any potential job that could land him billions (Ranging from solving energy crises on his own to joining major league sports) he just wants to be a news reporter so that he's not the center of attention.
>Wonder Red and Superman are the same guy
>/v/ loves one but hate the other
What the fuck, is /v/ full of edgy weeab-
>>333441096
>>333442376
Yep.
>>333424015
Flaws don't have to be obviously bad things.Superman doesn't need a weakness for fucking married women on the side or shooting heroin for him to have character flaws. Take a second and think about his character, if you're not a complete idiot I bet you can come up with several potential flaws.
>>333443067
>or shooting heroin
Yeah, someone's already got that covered.
>>333442612
No, he's that. He's a goody 2 shoed that has all the power in the world and that's it.
>>333442693
>So you don't know shit about Superman or designing games, got it
I clearly know more than you since you have no arguments against what I said.
Honestly Superman doesn't work, he's just shit. Nobody wants to play as him because you can't empathize with the guy.
>>333442756
Wow, so amazing.
I swear I've never read better written characters in manga that have the same boner for heroics. I swear Superman is so awesome.
Nah fuck off.
Peter Parker wants to save people but his motives are more realistic and his entire character is like that of a normal person. Superman on the other hand is just an alien that's superpowerful and saves people because he likes it.
>>333443657
Sorry, but just because mommy and daddy divorced because of their spoiled brat (You) doesn't really mean everyone else has to be the same.
Superman was a good kid, raised by good people, and in turn wants to do good. His origins are simple, and his motivations are earnest. His complexity comes from the fact he doesn't mentally grasp humanity the way we do, because he's not human. He doesn't truly understand man's suicidal or homicidal tendencies, and fears the idea of becoming so base. He also has to be reminded constantly that no matter how much he wants to save everyone, any plan he has of it can't and won't work because then he's not saving them, he's enslaving them. Injustice is a bad fucking comic but it actually covers that side of him quite well.
>>333443657
>his entire character is like that of a normal person.
That's not a requirement for a good character.
>>333443657
>characters need to be realistic to be good
yeah no, fuck off
>>333443657
>like that of a normal person.
And no one wants to be a normal person in a fucking video game. I want to be a good-hearted man who uses his godlike power to do good things and protect people in a game, not an autistic teenager who likes swords and has the personality (or lackthereof) of one.
>>333443979
If you like PUNCH HARDER, WOW SO COOL HE JUST DESTROYED A PLANET XD! then I guess no. If you want actual writing then yeah it is.
Peter is 100 times the man superman is.
>>333443657
>his entire character is like that of a normal person.
Fucking hilarious, Peter Parker is a caricature of impotence. Much like you.
>>333444145
Did you read this reply?
>>333443876
>>333444145
>reduced to strawmanning
>>333443657
>Peter Parker wants to save people but his motives are more realistic and his entire character is like that of a normal person.
Peter Parker whines about helping people all the time, but he's guilt tripped over causing his Uncle Ben's death that he forces himself to be a hero. His short temper can cause him to lash out on his friends and become an actual deadly threat to his foes.
Pete is anything but normal. He'd be a villain if he didn't get his uncle killed.
