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When the team was starting Final Fantasy XV, the brand image wasn’t very clear


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When the team was starting Final Fantasy XV, the brand image wasn’t very clear.
Tabata believes the franchise can’t move forward without setting pride aside – he knows fans still have hope in where the series could go.
Tabata and his team at Business Division 2 identified three core qualities they believe define the FFbrand: challenging the status quo, providing an exceptional experience and using cutting-edge technology. He thinks FFVII was the last game in the series to use all three points. Final Fantasy XV is a make-or-break moment – a chance to bring back lapsed fans and new ones into the fold.
When moving to Final Fantasy XV, the game disconnected from Fabula Nova Crystallis. Additionally, Stella fromVersus XIII was shifted significantly and while the team tried to keep as much as they could from the original concepts they took this opportunity to shape XV into a full range of imagination.
Final Fantasy XV‘s story focuses on friendship, destiny and legacy.
As soon as you start the game there is a battle in a location yet to be revealed. This is similar to FFIIwhere you start the game right with a boss battle. It also acts as a tutorial before going into chapter 1.

http://gematsu.com/2016/04/final-fantasy-xv-detailed-game-informer
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Combat has improved since the demo – controls are more responsive, and weapons can be swapped on the fly using the d-pad. GI saw tabs for swords, daggers, lances, firearms, shields, royal arms and elemental spells. There was also a category called machines though their purpose is unknown.
Magic spells are collected like a resource and can be recharged at various places on the map (thinkFFVIII‘s Draw system).
The Regalia (the car) has a trunk that acts as party storage. You may need to pay money to gas up from time to time but the cost isn’t crazy. The car radio plays remixes of classic FF themes such as “Final Fantasy.”


All four of the main characters have special talents – Noctis can fish, Ignis can cook and Gladio has survival instincts – and all of these can be “leveled up” by continued play.
When you call a summon they won’t always do the same thing. They are entities that exist in the world itself. So depending on the situation they will do different things. For example, Titan sometimes will run up and hit an enemy, sometimes he will throw boulders at the enemy and it’s possible he will even give up and leave the battle. They will also act differently in a dungeon than they will in the overworld.
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dead on arrival
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Shiva hype
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Make me care in 20 words or less.
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>>333350195
>When the team was starting Final Fantasy XV, the brand image wasn’t very clear.

It isnt clear even now.
Just a blur.
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>>333350195
>Tabata believes the franchise can’t move forward without setting pride aside

I hate this myth.

FF13 "set pride aside" by eschewing almost every Final Fantasy convention in the books. That game critically failed because people didn't even recognize FF anymore.
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Did Tabata even play XII? That game was ballsy as fuck.
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>>333350324
I take it Prompto's special talent is turning tricks.
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>>333351178
On your way to a destination, Prompto may ask to stop and take a photo. His pictures can be seen during camp and can be shared on social media. Should you continue to take pictures with Prompto his photography skills will improve.
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>>333350724
You cared enough to make a post. I win.
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>>333350512
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>>333351239
That's not nearly as interesting.
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>>333351023

FF12 was ballsy but released on an inferior console.

You can only be risky on a brand-new console. Customers can endure the pain of a new system when they see eye-candy everywhere.
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>>333350778
Seriously. It didn't even have the prelude or victory fanfare. You want the familiar and the fresh. I like that they could hold onto common elements while still having entirely different stories and settings.
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>>333350778
Fucking this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGiZrJBLnYA

I hear this song in my head every time I think about the relationship between Noctis and his father.
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who bitch dis is
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>>333351239

confirmed for spy
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>>333352415
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>>333352784

holy fuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXMJTGna_xA
>this trailer released 8 months ago

you faggots are nearly there.
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>>333350324
>controls are more responsive

better be
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>>333352852
Dawn wasn't that good
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I'll play it if they can make the gameplay actually fun.
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>>333353296
10x times better than the Stand by Me trailer
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>>333350195
Oh Poor SE. Can they truly recapture the magic of old?
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>>333353342
You mean turn based?
Because pressing attack sure is fun
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>>333353342

teehee
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>>333352852
I still don't get this trailer
Why is Regis already that old when Noctis is still a kid?
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Calling it now this is the OOT of this Generation and will set a standard for every 60$ game, no game will come close in terms of what this game will achieve.

Screen caps senpatchi
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>>333350324
Qt prompto can't do chores d'aaw
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>>333353747
I don't know how to take pictures of my monitor sorry pal
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>>333353698

thats the mystery
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>>333353515
the singer ruined it
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>>333350324
>(thinkFFVIII‘s Draw system)
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>>333353608
Nah I mean fun to play. Something with some depth, or at least something quick and responsive. Like DMC or Kingdom Hearts or something.

As it stands the demo felt pretty sluggish to me, and not in that Souls kinda way where you still feel like what you're doing matters- I just felt disconnected the whole time.
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>>333350512
Dude, do you have autism or something? Why do you keep posting that?
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>>333354059
Well, if you had a demo of KH2 with a fight against the Darkside heartless and had nothing, but the fire spell and no abilites the combat wouldn't feel that great either
The demo did a really bad job at actually showing you the full extend of the combat, but i doubt the whole game will be like that
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>>333350778
be careful, you'll get that one FFXIII-apologist who shit up an earlier thread and wouldn't stop spamming his stick-figure waifu and her shitty game.
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>>333354536
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>>333350195
so is this game only 10% story, 90% sidequests with party bro idle animations and activities?
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>>333354341

It's best to completely ignore anyone who mentions DMC. Scratch them up as a shitposter.
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>>333350512
What a bunch of cunts.
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>>333353965

It doesn't contribute to stats so you won't be stockpiling it like nuts.
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>>333350195
>challenging the status quo, providing an exceptional experience and using cutting-edge technology

None of this means anything.
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>>333354536
you mean toriyama?
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>>333354592
Side quests pop up in the main story NPCS will approach you on your way through and ask for favors but you get several options to reply, No being one of them.
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>>333354536
Hmm
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>>333350512
>We have far better games on PC

the asshurt is delish
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>>333350195
Is that website legitimately giving the cliff notes of an article written for a different publication?
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>>333354536
Huh
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>>333353965
Stop hating on the system just because the rest of the internet does it
It had it's flaws in FF8 because you had to use them, but also combine then with stats
Which is not the case in this game
And you'll most likely have more spells than you can ever use in FFXV
And even in FF8 it wasn't shit or anything it could just break the game, but every FF has stuff like that
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>>333351023
XII should have been the gold stranded
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>>333354949
Yes. Kinda ironic how FFXII was a decade before this whole GoT dark fantasy craze started. Would've been way more successful today.
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>>333354536
Ah
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>>333354859
its from a magazine
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>>333355134
Which then begs the question
HD WHEN
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>>333355182
You have to post fan art because in game she looks like a blow up doll. Her legs look like pool noodles and her ass is like Hank Hill's.
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>>333355314
Never
It's not a bad game especially the IZJS version, but too many people either haven't played it or didn't like it too much
It would probably not be profitable
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>>333355368
just ignore them.
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>>333354943
>FF8 because you had to use them, but also combine then with stats
You didn't have to use spells in FFVIII.
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>>333350195
I'm probably late but Archive link for easy reading

http://archive.is/0PcBH
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>>333355416
Seeing how everyone is waiting for XV i can't think of a better time than this
Probably a little too late though
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>>333354949

>everybody complains about only getting to control 1 character in 13
>the same exact retards laud praise on 12 for being a game where you literally program it to play itself

waoooow
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>>333355368
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>>333355561
No, you weren't forced too
But then i dont get why people hate on it
Because it can make the game real easy if you just farm the right spells? Of course and many FF have shit that breaks the game
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>>333355616

literally cloud
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>>333353965
Tabata didn't say that, gematsu did, in fact Tabata flat out said magic in XV is nothing like Draw system from FF8 in an interview from famitsu before.

>While he wouldn't offer more details on the magic system itself – although it is apparently already quite developed – when asked, Tabata did specify that it is nothing like the draw system from Final Fantasy VIII.
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>>333355591
thanks for this
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>>333355736
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>>333355616
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>>333350724
>Combat has improved since the demo
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>>333350724
JUST BUY THE FUCKING GAME
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>>333355591
Thanks i'll use that next time
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>>333350724

loli rape
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>>333350724

It's not FFXIII.
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>>333355416
>It's not a bad game
Thanks for giving me a laugh anon.

>play a turn based game
>get to enjoy combat through selecting actions for the characters to perform for you, while losing out on real time control of a single person

>play an action based game
>get to enjoy combat through real time control of a character, while losing out on controlling the actions of a team

>play FFXII
>get to spend 10 seconds setting up overpowered gambits so that you no longer have to control a single person, or a group of people
Yep, best of both worlds isn't it? Why watch a movie with nothing in your hands when you can watch a movie that requires you to hold down the play button for 2 hours?
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>>333355836
Cloud.
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>>333356118

You fags tricked me with this on Type-0, nice try.
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>>333356125
Not like you don't use auto-attack 99% in the turn-based games. Setting up bulletproof gambits was more rewarding and intuitive.
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>>333355697
This is the opinion of someone who really enjoyed FFVIII. Spells were easily the weakest part of the game. Its not because you could break the game. In fact, the card game was the best way to break the game, and I loved the card game. Spells were the weakest part of the game because you start off needing all of them for stats, then when you finally have enough variety to start using them, limit breaks start being usable on pretty much every turn. In order to play the game efficiently, you will probably never use any spell that isn't Aurora.
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>>333356427
?
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>>333351239
Prompto a cute

>Prompto liveblogs the adventure
>halfway through the game, you're captured by the empire
>they call you idiots for giving them their location via Kwehter updates
>kill everyone there and you all escape
>Prompto becomes more stealthy about taking his photos and gets really good at it
>uses his Kwehter account to lead their enemies away
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>>333350512
>el protagonista es Sasuke Uchiha
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>>333356492
<3
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>>333356453
But spells are pretty useless/not worth using in most FF except the really oldschool FFs
Except for Reflek maybe
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>>333356404
Bullshit.
Setting up gambits = Setting up paradigms

>More rewarding and intuitive

Subjective.

The hate on XIII is unwarranted and has become a meme.

In truth it's a better X and has above an 8 on metacritic.
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>>333356612
Lightining.
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>>333356404
>using auto-attack
>ever
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Why is there Lightning in this thread?
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>>333356557
>kwehter
is this really in the game? i smiled. i liked the use of twitter or such in SFV so i think i'd be okay with it here since Prompto totally seems the type to do that
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If you want to have a good time with any game do not come here
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Is anyone else bothered by the same shitty combat system from Type 0 where you get 30 abilities and can only equip 2 at a time?

So I have sword, greatsword, shield, and fire. And that's it. Those are all my options for the given battle I'm in.

I mean, I expect you can change them by pausing during the fight, but holy shit is that obnoxious to do just to cast thunder instead of fire.
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>>333356748
See>>333354536
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>>333356686
>metacritic
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What about having something like FF II system?
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At this point Prompto is too hilariously pleb compared to the others and I can't help but be suspicious of this
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>>333356748
I dunno. I just saw someone posting her and figured why not.
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Platinum Demo was a mistake.
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>>333356792
They shoulda had a sub menu like KH with the magic, and left the weapon slots to the weapons.
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>>333356686
Paradigm Shifts weren't bad. Very basic but not bad. The fun thing about gambits is the pleasure of programming your party to be as efficient as possible in all scenarios though. So you had to constantly modify for new mobs and bosses.
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>>333356792
They're pretty open for feedback, so if enough people ask for it they'll probably ad another dpad selection that appears or can be switched be pressing a shoulder button
Maybe they already did, the combat system from the Platinum Demo was already a little outdated compared to the one from the Nilfheim gameplay a few weeks ago
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>>333356612
Still cloud.
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>>333356404
>Not like you don't use auto-attack 99%
Most games reward you by making fights easier when you do more than just auto-attack. Probably all games are flat out impossible with just attacking all day.

>Setting up bulletproof gambits was more rewarding and intuitive
Gambits were OP and mindless. It takes no effort to set them up. You can literally get to the point where your input is never needed later in the game, even with an average level. To make matters worse, optional bosses throw so much bullshit at you that gambits start becoming less of an option an more of a necessity. It isn't like an action game where your skill at dodging can keep you from getting hit.

Also, something can not be both rewarding and intuitive. Rewarding means that you put effort in and get a reward out of it. Intuitive implies that you do not need to put effort in, but rather it comes naturally. Gambits are in fact intuitive, but not rewarding, since it doesn't require effort.
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>>333356904
I never liked the magic system in KH
To difficult to use any magic that wasn't set to one of your quick commands
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>>333356717
Why the fuck not? Normal attack works 99% of the time.
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>>333351023
XII was fucked so hard by executive meddling and a change in directors. That the international version is so fucking good even with the host of issues the game had is telling to how wonderful the core mechanics and ideas in place were. With a better party, I bet it would have been a pretty beloved title. Unfortunately the game has been overshadowed by the disaster that was the FFXIII saga.
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>>333356832
It's ignis whos the traitor. Look at the 4 on the cloud left to right Promto Noctis Gladio and Ignis.
Look at how ignis seems upset or saddened by something but is being held by Gladio. He betrays the team but they accept him back later.
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>>333356964
Cause clouds create lightning right?
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>>333356832
Well, he really is a pleb. It seems both Noctis and Regis like to have one plebe in the party for the variety (Regis had Cid).
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>>333357007
You didn't need most of them anyway
And the problem is solved by the fact that there're only 3 spells in FFXV
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>>333355610
XIII's combat was literally a lobotomized version of XII.
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>>333357007
I meant make a quick command menu for the magic in XV.
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Better combat than the Platinum Demo right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E69ZeEH5HTA
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>>333356668
I can't think of a single game where that is true. Can you tell me which ones that applies to? They seemed useful to me in VII, IX, and X. You already said they were useful in older ones. So which ones do you believe them to be useless in?
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>>333357117
There aren't. There's the whole ring magic too, plus spell synthesis.
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>>333350778
I think what he means is they can't just sell a game by going "Hey look! The people who make that one thing you like are making another thing! Aren't you excited? Please look forward to it.", especially people don't like that thing much anymore. If anything XV is "setting pride aside" even more than XIII did by being an ARPG in a modern fantasy setting, but it still has things like enemies, summon designs and songs that are reminiscent of previous games.
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>>333357183

how can people enjoy this shit
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10 years of hype and counting, lads. This game will either be the end or the guarantee that SE will stay afloat for another decade, no matter what they do. Would be sad to see this company just die like this to be honest.
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>>333357220
Well, we'll see how deep that actually goes
For now we only know of blizzard, fire and thunder that Noctis himself can actually cast
And Tabata said that this game won't have too many spells, but they'd be more usefull since you can use them in different conditions like rainy weather
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>>333357113
That looks so fucking cool.
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>>333357278
*especially since
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>The car radio plays remixes of classic FF themes such as “Final Fantasy.”

POST SONGS YOU WANT IN THE GAME NIGGAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey-cqZe5rEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRSsSLjfSPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0WdQDPRwb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG93NDv96os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2v_qbBt4sc
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I don't really care, I love final fantasy and I'm sure XV will be enjoyable.
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>>333357035
Feel free to post a video supporting this claim.
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>>333357351
We can assume Meteorain (or something similar) is in the game. Since there's a version of it in the PD.
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Where did the idea come from that what JRPG players REALLY want is single player pseudo-MMOs and bad no effort "action" combat?
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>>333357374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4
For real though the radio better have tons of FF8 tracks
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>>333357374
>Remaster
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>>333357183
GET THIS SHIT OUT OF HERE LMAO.
If this won GOTY XV Has this shit in the bag.
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>>333355802

Well this system is empowering you with elemental energy, so it will likely have very obvious places to get it, and not have a random amount, so in that sense, it's totally different.

And we have no idea how Ring Magic is relegated.
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>>333357465
not all the tracks sound better but besaid DEFINITELY does
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>>333357421
They seemed more like things to showcase the engine
But meteorain was pretty cool and fucking OP, fullscreen 5k damage
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>>333357078
Looks like he's just injured and that "gladio" is helping him up
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>>333356749
I made it up as I was typing that out. I wouldnt be surprised if there were something like that
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>>333357374
Only need this and I am happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0JnXdfoYpY
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>>333357374
Damn, FF XIII has god tier music, I'd love to listen to some of it in the game even though it isn't "classic" FF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weewaTuUheQ
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>>333357374
Can I just have Lightning VA doing asmr? I would give up all the music for it.
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>>333357196
Not him, but magic becomes completely useless in FFX during late-game. The strongest attacks are multi-hit, and since magical spells don't have multi-hit feature, they're weak as fuck compared to the physical attacks.
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>>333357537
Right? So if it is obtainable, it will probably be something we get much later on.
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>>333357374
A few FFVIII tracks aka the Final Fantasy with the best OST
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>>333357568
aw, that's a shame. but yeah i can see prompto doing social media and then getting chastized by the others.
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>>333357609
Are we taking about Allie Hillis or Maaya Sakamoto?
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>>333357609
Why?
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>>333350324
Why would they say it's like VIII's draw system when Tabata stated it isn't?
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>>333357559
The whole image is symbolism.
It wouldn't be that simple.
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>>333357374
What if the songs were dynamic so certain types of songs would play in certain situations?

>round a corner in the car
>as soon as you get around it you see a giant beast similar to pic related
>it turns slowly and glares at you
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT803dOa_TY starts playing over the radio
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>>333357702
Because they're retards that think as soon as spells are consumables it's automaticly FF8
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>>333357678
I'd rather have Allie but I don't think they would take it seriously, so Sakamoto.
>>333357697
Why not
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It will be shit.

They think the core FF audience are the children who liked repeatedly mashing the same button in Kingdom Hearts.

They keep forgetting what made the brand by letting idiots try to rebrand it. Its the same goddamn thing that happened with DMC all over again.
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>>333357183
See this is how you do a battle system people. Not doing a goddamn plebeian version of DMC. There is no complexity seen in the platinum demo compared to this.
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>>333357819
But Sakamoto didn't sound emotionless all the time. Even had moments where her voice was soft and sad.
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>>333350512
>That one guy calling it "postmodernesque" biggest misuse of that word I think I've ever seen and that's really saying something.
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>>333357113
Fuck I love this art

And how Regis portrait of him, Cor, Cid and Gladio's dad reference to the original warriors of light.
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>>333357847
What made the series?
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>>333357847
Honestly turn based games were harder when I was little but now they're so piss easy I don't even care.
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>>333357613
During late game I had access to 1MP double casting ultima. It was far from useless since it was one of the most effective things I had going for killing enemies.
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>>333357907
Well maybe it'd help if I understood it
Actually i've never even heard of JP ASMR, do they do it?
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>>333355956

>improved

How do you "improve" hold x to win?
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>>333358085
don't make me post it
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>>333358016

look at the portrait in the painting it looks like that regis still exists
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>>333358016
you think they still have this flashback or such or this was just done for this trailer? it was such a cute scene between the two
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>>333358016
Both Regis are canon you can see in the portrait
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>>333355616
Why is she so perfect?
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Is there any confirmation that the dogshit combat in that platinum demo was just an april fools prank and obviously nothing like the real combat we'll be playing the final game?
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Okay hold the phone, that interview said that:
>combat is more responsive than the demo

Are they talking about Episode Duscae or Platinum Demo??
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Is Uematsu still working at Square?
I love Shimomuras OSTs more than anything, but i hope Uematsu will make another FF OST in the future
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>>333358120
If you won't, i will
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>>333358085
If you weren't immortal in the demo, then hold x to win wouldn't have worked. I assume you aren't immortal in the final game, but we will have to see.
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>>333358061
I guess not, just have the VA speak softly into the mic. It'll be like nip NPR with guest star Lightning
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>>333358120
?
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>>333358120
You mean the webm where some retard strawmanned the very real complaint that the combat sucks and is just "hold O to win" and literally just held the two buttons together, instead of doing what every person who says that obviously fucking means which is hold o, and then sometimes hold square?

Yeah go ahead and post it so you further show how total brainless you are, faggot.
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>>333350195
>>333350324
I just want to know if Noctis can still "see the light of dying souls".

I tried searching online about it and the only things that were scrapped (as far as we know) are Stella and the Insomnia invasion. But the game looks very different from Versus XIII so that makes me wonder.

I hope they address this in the next QA, assuming they're doing another one
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>>333357775

>Titan shows up
>hits Adamantoise with boulder
>does no damage
>he shrugs with an "I tried" face
>walks away
>party makes hilarious jokes about how they thought Astrals were more impressive than this
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>>333358256

>doesn't even die

kek
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>>333358217
Sounds like you didn't get the shield, shuriken or get gud with airstep and broadsword
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>>333358189
It's probably just for that protrait, i doubt we will see that version of Regis actually in game and even in that image he look a bit different
I like both versions so i'm not complaining, it's just weird how much they changed him
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>>333358009
You just fight through menus, how hard and exciting could that be for an adult? Turn based is severely outdated and pointless nowadays, especially when devs have the tech to do much better.
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>>333358331
Oh shit then you have to actually switch between attack and defend??????????
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>>333358217

haha epic shitpost friend
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>>333358331
ok
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>>333358245
No both Shimomura and Uematsu left Square in 2003 to form their own studio, they work on commission.
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>>333357847
>They think the core FF audience are the children who liked repeatedly mashing the same button in Kingdom Hearts.
How is that *any* different from the turn-based battle system of the past?

Hell, the recent rereleases of the old games even include an auto battle button since most of the time you just mash "fight" anyway.
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>>333358256
>LE HOLD O WURKS GAIS DURHUR.

Fucking shitposters.
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>>333358245
Uematsu is basically an expensive freelancer and more about his name and reputation than quality of music
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>>333358389
Well those weapons didn't fix the input lag, unresponsive controls or the framerate, which are my problems with it

The content of the combat is fine.
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>>333355610
You could control everyone in XII.
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>>333357847

>>>/vr/
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>>333358256
>someone was so buttblasted that the shitty combat system is hold O to win that he literally made a webm to try and show that it's not true
>he is so fucking stupid that he took those complaints at face value and not for the real complaints they are about the lacking, dull, boring, retarded combat system

make one where he holds o and then sometimes hits square to dodge and then come back to me. because that is still boring as fuck.

>>333358473
epic fake video because all I did was hold down O with the big sword and occasionally dodge and I got hit like one time and had no trouble beating the boss in probably a minute.
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>>333358371
HP is completely depleted, that tech demo is mocked up so you get restored to full HP when your HP is completely 0, in the actual game you die
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>>333358431
Meanwhile I have a crippled friend who loves jrpgs because he can play them with one hand
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>>333358594
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>>333358594
>epic fake video
Are you a real person?
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>>333358594
Well, then post your video or wait a few months a see how far it will get you against more thn one enemy at a time
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>>333358594

>iron giant
>boss
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>>333358594
>le epic I can make up false statements because I'm on an anonymous image board
Feel free to back it up with a video anon. Oh wait... That would require you to be able to do it.

>inb4 I can post on /v/ for 10 hours strait, but I don't have 15 minutes to make a video and upload it
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>>333358371
>a demo doesn't let you lose
O wow never seen that before
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>>333358694
>J-j-just buy the full game to see that you're w-wrong
nice try squeenix shill
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>>333358594
this is a new level of butthurt
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>>333357847
>he thinks Kingdom Hearts combat is just repeatedly mashing the same button to win
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>>333358331
Why not use warps, dodge rolls, magic, abilities, armiger, aerial, etc while you're at it ;^)
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>>333358770
Oh, so you were lying , okay
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I'm looking forward to update this image. Don't disappoint me Tabata.
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>>333358775
i know you are but what i am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4qIG2tmPAk
Never found the shield and shuriken. Guess I should play again.
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>>333358473
BTFO
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>Final Fantasy XV is a make-or-break moment – a chance to bring back lapsed fans and new ones into the fold.

So this is it /v/, if this game doesn't bring back fans of FF before 13, its the end of them trying. Will you be giving this game a chance for yourselves? Or just judge it on what other people say, and give up?

The last good FF for me was 9. If it can't at least live up to that games story, I'm quitting.
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>>333357572
Man, it would be so fucking awesome if the radio tracked when you got into a battle, so whenever you came across enemies on the road, it would change to a song like this.
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>iron giant in FFXV is easy to beat while iron giant in games like FFVIII can be dangerous
>good thing turn based games are easy as fuck while action games are the hardest thing ever right guyz?
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>>333358831
Poor Tidus, why is he so bullied?
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>>333358836
>i know you are but what i am
?
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>>333358256
>>333358473
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>>333358784
>comparing this complete and utter trash to the god-tier KH battle system
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>>333358860
Ive liked every FF i've played including 12 and X-2. I'm sure i'll enjoy this.
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>>333358860
The last good FF for me was Lightning Returns so I'm all hype.
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>>333357847
>They think the core FF audience are the children who liked repeatedly mashing the same button
sounds pretty accurate to me desu most fights in final fantasy are solved by pressing attack until you need to heal
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>>333358836
Hurtbutt
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>>333358896
>iron giant in FFXV is easy to beat

shit I how did you play the final game?
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>>333358903
Because.
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>>333358860
I still want to experience the train wreck that is FFVIIRe. Its not going to cost me money so what do I have to lose?
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>>333358929
>That animation

Holy shit that's probably the most hilarious intentional animation I've seen in a game in ages.
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>>333358594
So why not use warps, magic, aerial combos, blocks, parries, abilities, armiger etc while you're at it? :^)

But I guess taking less than 5 minutes to record 1 minute of footage and convert it to webm triggers your autism
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>>333358894
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>>333359000
>there's no way this demo is representative of the final game at all
>yep, they definitely make the main character's control scheme and the attacks of a prominent enemy from scratch- there is no way those are from the full game or anything

stay delusional
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>>333358831
cloud had magic cancer so him being depressed is perfectly natural
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>>333358960
From Lead Game Designer Takizawa Masashi:

The equivalent to difficulty level settings in FFXV is a system where you can switch between different battle modes. By having this ability to switch modes, we want to make it so that both players who like action oriented, technical gameplay and also those who want to fight at a slower, more relaxed pace can all enjoy the combat in their own style. This switching system is a key part of the gameplay that we decided to introduce based on the feedback we received from the Episode Duscae demo.

We will go into more detail about the system closer to the game’s launch so stay tuned for more information.
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>>333359000
Heroes shield to victory. No need to run away and warp strike back in like a pansy.
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>>333359059
>>333358787
>he keeps posting it
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>>333359000
>shit I how did you play the final game?
shit I how did you learn engrish?
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>>333358860
wait for the user reviews and then decide if I want to buy it
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>>333358594
BTFO-KUN IS BACK
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>>333359171
>>333358851
>>333358929
>if it keep posting how great i am, that means I win!
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>>333358831
>cecil
>depressed shit
not at the end senpai

>cloud
ok

>squall
ok

>teedus
lost my shit right there senpai
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>>333358903
he's a jock and got laid in the game
why would /v/ like him?
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>>333358350
I think they scrapped the whole Grim Reaper worship thing from back in the day and went more lighthearted with the overall motif of the game.

But who knows if it's still included in some form.
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>>333359090

>This switching system is a key part of the gameplay that we decided to introduce based on the feedback we received from the Episode Duscae demo.

>based on the feedback

This is the real problem right here.

They keep listening to the vocal minority. Instead of having the balls to just do what they want they keep bowing to outside pressure. You can't please everyone. If you try you just muddle things.
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>>333358929

Prompto literally holds his burning ass and jumps out of the way realistically.

They really put work into making the buddies feel alive. Now I can see why they needed to cancel underwater combat, hopefully they can work that in another game.
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>>333359305
>They keep listening to the vocal minority.
I mean, they did polls and stuff with this sort of thing. It's not just that people tweeted them or something.
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>>333358929
People love shitting on Prompto so much but without him we wouldn't get gems like this

Also, did anyone else notice him laying on the side of the road?
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demo is fun
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>>333359151
>he keeps being BTFO
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>>333358894
Xion??
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>>333359459
Who?
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>>333359282
Grim reapers are still on the carpets of Lucis in the Plat Demo.. As well as the skull on top of the nagas head in the new GI footage.
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demo sucked big fucking asses

i heard they'll be two different fighting systems, but they didn't say if the demo was the fast-paced or the slow-paced one

if that's the "fast" one, then god help us
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>Tabata
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THIS TALENTLESS CUNT THINKS?

FF15 is a piece of shit. They should have scrapped the shit 8 years ago.
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>>333358016
Didn't they say that the powers of the king that Noct starts using in game accelerates aging?
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>>333359305
It's weird that the team that made KH2FM combat years ago, took years and multiple demos + feedback to create a combat system that still has a few flaws
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>>333359252
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
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>>333359421
I haven't played the demo yet. How difficult is it to do stuff like this?
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>>333359459
Impossible. If it was Xion there would be nothing there.

Also who?
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>>333359406
This was golden
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>>333359406
>Also, did anyone else notice him laying on the side of the road?
What the fuck!
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>>333359459
HELLO?!
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>>333359519
Right? So many dumbasses in this thread who think they're funny typing "BTFO" over and over. I'm actually 100% sure it's the same fucking guy over and over again with nothing better to do.

shit is fucking hilarious. totally makes the thread to see mentally damaged fanboys try and fail to defend something so vigorously.
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>>333359548
Like, you can do this while relaxed on your couch instead of leaning forward
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>>333359548
Not really difficult at all and i'm not saying that's bad
It still takes some time to get used to the weapon switching though
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>>333350724
cute boys
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>>333359617
And you're the same guy that replies to it everytime
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>>333359617
HE'S STILL GOING
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>>333359480
That's reassuring. I really liked the concept of Noctis being able to see the light of dying souls.
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>>333359617
This is gold
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>>333359480
That's pretty interesting.

Hopefully there's a tie in with the characters.
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>>333358350
well that was from the XV reveal trailer, so I'm sure it's still in the game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUSXub_ypU
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What the fuck is going on?
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>>333359764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVJGh51wR7k
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>>333359694
Yes. Because, as I said, shit is funny. Yet somehow I don't think the other guy is getting the laughs out of it. I mean, why would he enjoy making a fool of himself for the enjoyment of someone he disagrees with? Who would find that funny?
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>mfw the underage fucks looking forward to this trash think blatant fujoshit pandering is "brotherhood"
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>>333359617
You're in a thread of a game you don't want to play or buy.

Who's mentally challenged here?
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>>333359827
You
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>>333359827
I'd buy it if and/or when they fix their awful combat system. I come here to express correct opinions, and stay when losers can't handle reality.
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>>333359752
Oh shit I forgot all about that.

I'm hyped again. Thank you anon!
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>>333359941
>I said while i post my collection of traps
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>>333359821

>blatant fujoshit pandering

it really is

i showed my Imouto the demo and as soon as it got to the iron giant fight and noctis "aged up" she instantly made... noise.
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>>333359941
>correct opinions
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>>333359548
Easy to the point where it feels more impressive if you just look at it instead of playing it yourself.
The guy in the webm jumps around by flicking the stick in different directions while he is holding down the attack button with the shuriken weapon.

I saw a webm in one of these threads where an anon made a pointlessly weird air combo then he landed and did some swings and then he did an admittedly sick looking parry with the shield that staggered the giant.
Anyone have that one?
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>>333360000
implying what exactly?

such a waste of quads.
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>>333359941
Please stay then.
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>>333360075
You are everywhere
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>>333359548
Pretty hard since everytime you press a button the character only does it 5 seconds later because the previous animation isn't finished.
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>>333360142
Not really.
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>>333360067
This?
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>>333359617

jesus christ dude take a break
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>>333351023
The gambit system was so based.
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>>333359941
The only thing correct about them is that they're your opinions.

The game isn't without its flaws and there are valid criticisms about it, and you are free to dislike it because it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea.

But going on a campaign to get everyone to hate on it is a bit extra and unrealistic.
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>>333359821
>Bros are gay if they look good
From what we know the characters in this game are great and will feel like bros
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>>333360167
I fucking wish they would just listen to ONE GUY who had worked on a good action game who knows basic but important shit like this.
It must be frustrating to be in that team and see the combat system devolve into all flash and no substance, when it really only takes a couple of tweaks to turn it into something really good

That is actually a big problem I have with both demos. A year went by between them, and nothing was done to make Noctis feel more responsive to player input.
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>>333360260
how do you use the shield to block? I could only attack
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>>333360425
square
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>>333359480
Don't forget this, too. They're not exactly hiding it.
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>>333360446
Lol fuck, of course..
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>>333360396
Who Nomura?
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>>333360260
Okay those shuriken dodges are even more random than I remember, but whatever. That parry at the end makes me hopeful that the combat can turn out to be fun to play. They just gotta tweak it a little
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>>333360367
I'm not going on a campaign. I just say my opinions and then a spurge of fucking retards try and act like it's a perfect game without flaws and the combat system doesn't need any improvement.

If all these stupid shits would stop needlessly defending something they haven't even bought, then I wouldn't have to prove them wrong over and over, and the thread wouldn't devolve into shitposting.

Retards just feel the need to spam webms and type BTFO and ruin the thread for anyone who doesn't enjoy idiots getting buttflustered. Luckily I do, but it's sad for everyone else.
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>>333360458
I know I saw those at the event :]
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>>333360508
Personally i find the airstepsword backflip dodge more sick, but mixing shit up is part of the fun, hence why this is still my favourite video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-ANQvMkXg
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>>333360458
$40 is such a scam, holy fuck.

Pretty cool that the Reaper imagery is still in though.
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>>333360508
I'm the guy that made that webm, i admit the dodges are random, but i only played the demo for about an hour at that point and people asked how to do the dodges so i showed them
Now i'm barely doing aircombos at all, they'll definitely have their uses against airborne enemies and shit, but against the giant or most ground enemies groun combos and the shield work way better without draining your MP
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>>333360536
>If all these stupid shits would stop needlessly defending something they haven't even bought, then I wouldn't have to prove them wrong over and over, and the thread wouldn't devolve into shitposting.
Good luck anon.
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>>333360503
Not even him, just anyone who worked on the KH combat system.
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>>333360639
Can't you print those things online for like 10 bucks?
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>>333360536
You're not proving everyone wrong.
Everything apart from framerate and input lag is your own opinion of the demo
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>>333358287
Do it like it Bethesda's Fallout
>beat a boss with ease
>SO, REMEMBER THAT STORY ABOUT THE ENTIRE ROYAL FAMILY FROM LUCIS BEING DEAD? IT WAS ALL LIES
>APPARENTLY AT LEAST THE CROWN PRINCE NOCTIS LUCIS CAELUM IS ALIVE AND FIGHTING
>FIGHTING AN UNDERWHELMING FIGHT WITH SOME ROBOTIC MONSTROSITY FROM THE EMPIRE
>EYEWITNESSES HAVE REPORTED THAT PRINCE CHARMING SWIFTLY DECOMISSIONED THE MECH WHILE HIS PERSONAL CHEERLEADERS ADMIRED HIS TECHNIQUE
>SO BRAVO CROWN PRINCE, AND EMPIRE, HOW ABOUT MAKING THINGS MORE INTERESTING NEXT TIME?
>AND NOW LET'S PUT SOME MUSIC BEFORE I FURTHEE GET MAD AT BLATANT INCOMPTENCE, THIS IS SEYMOUR BATTLE BY NOBUO UEMATSU
>music starts
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>>333360694
Almost the whole KH2 team is working it
I'm not saying the combat system is bad, but i would never want it to be like KH
It's just weird that they seem to have a lot of problems with it and it took them multiple changes and feedback to get to this point
We can't fulle judge the combat yet since the demo is pretty barebones, but just like KH the combat works in it's own game
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>>333360752
Correct.

Most of what I argue is frustration of that input lag which even today in the threads people have tried to deny for literally no reason, the fuckups.

Then when I say the combat is boring in my opinion, they try and say "no" like that's even any of their business. It's my fucking opinion. fuck off. You don't get to say "no".
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>>333360536
The people that enjoy it will never stop defending something they enjoy.

That's an impossible mission, especially on this site.
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>>333360536
>If all these stupid shits would stop needlessly defending something they haven't even bought
Notice how if you change defending to attacking, the sentence still fits perfectly? Kinda funny when you start with;

>I'm not going on a campaign. I just say my opinions

Quit trying to pretend to be a martyr anon.
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>fags will continue to shit on a game that won't come out for another 5 months and 23 days
>fags will continue to compare the combat of an Action RPG to one of the greatest Hack and Slash games of all time
I say let them have their fun. Because the SECOND this game releases, the shit-posting will be drowned out with endless XV threads for the rest of the year.
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>>333360704
You could, but they try to drain people's wallets at events by marking everything up and feeding on their hype for a sale.
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>>333360837
Anon, you pretend as if you are defending an opinion that you are keeping to yourself. Once you feel the need to share your opinion with another person, it is now that person's business. You made it their business. If you don't welcome their input, don't ask for it.
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>>333360936
Dark Souls 3 is out soon, then those threads will start
It's just a slow week without much news to hate on for /v/
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>>333350512
First thing I saw was:
>...characters are too feminine

Fuck that guy. Feminine boys are the best.
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>>333360837
I'm also annoyed by the people who say input lag isn't an issue but I also really like the game and what we've seen from the combat so I can do nothing but hope that it gets fixed
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>>333360936
>for the rest of the month.
fixed.

Nobody will give a shit about the game much longer than that. That goes for every "big" release this stupid board hypes up
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>>333360863
The sentence kinda does not fit perfectly. this is /v/. I'm allowed to say I think it's shit, you're allowed to say you think it's without flaw and totally fucking perfect. But most importantly any reasonable person should be skeptical and hard and clear flaws before a game is released. But that's neither here nor there.

>>333361012

I'm just saying people could be less retarded about it. How about "I thought the X mechanic was well implemented and there was plenty of hidden depth, they just failed to tell the player about most of it in the demo", instead of "HERE IZ WEBM I AM RIGHT LEL", because at that point I have no option but to shitpost right back.

>>333361069
This, basically, although I am admittedly more negative in the belief that the outcome will be any good.
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>>333361156
Yo, but for real, fuck FFXV, post more of the "grown up girl coming back for promised romance" /u/. Love this.
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>>333360656
That webm made me go and practice with the shield. It didn't feel great to pull off which I had hoped, but it looked awesome.
They seriously need to fix the input lag and slow animations for the final game. I have to press buttons a seconds before I need the move to come out and it really doesn't feel good when the combat is paced like a devil may cry esque game and demands quick reactions
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>>333360837
Your opinion on the combat is yours to keep. No one could take that from you, it's what you feel.

Hopefully the final product fixes certain issues people had in the demo.
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Square is really playing with fire. They are trying to give FF the CoD treatment. Trying to appeal to the masses to get those crazy sales. They want FFXV to sell something like 9 million copies and I just can't see that happening. No matter how flashy they make it or how they try to appeal to a western audience it's still a jrpg at heart. FF7 has a better chance of being a massive hit than this.
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>>333361064
They're obviously into Bara and bears.
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>>333361156
>basically, although I am admittedly more negative in the belief that the outcome will be any good.
They only have six months after all that's not enough time to fix anything.

Really I'm surprised how they can put two up demos with vastly different opinions on each.
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>>333359459
>Xion is gone from KH and now her fate is to be the cumdump for the XV guys
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>>333361156
I could play FFXV perfectly fine if they used the PD build.
Maybe that is why I am so relaxed about the prospect of them not improving the input delay
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>>333361295
>FF7 has a better chance of being a massive hit than this.
I'm not sure that's true, it's much cooler to be a "nerd" now than it was then. More of my friends watch anime now than when I was in school, and a few have shown some interest in FFXV despite never mentioning the series before.
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>>333360815
Oh I don't want the combat to be like in KH, but I expect better feeling combat from those people considering how great it felt to play KH.
KH had a lot of spam X to win encounters, but Sora reacted instantly when you pressed the button and that felt good and made it fun. Those people that could figure that basic gameplay feel (or whatever the word is for it) are more than capable of making the combat in FFXV feel fun and snappy
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>>333361341
That's enough time to fix the objective issues this game has: framerate and input lag.
Everything goes back to opinions and doesn't have to be fixed
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>>333361224
You're alright, /v/.

Sorry, but I recently formatted my HD and lost my pictures. All I can give you is a Metroid comic with yuri-esque themes, Avatar yuri, or SU yuri. If you want any of those, I'm there.
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>Magic is now like Elixir's, you will never use them because you want to save them for when you need towhich is never
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Why do people compare FFXV combat to KH and even DMC when they play nothing alike?

Stop it guise
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>>333359282
It's not lighthearted at all. It's just that now you're seeing all the stuff that was talked about but barely shown in Versus (recall how the second trailer had the main group having fun in Altissia).
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>>333361457
Once the FF7 remake was announced a few of my friends that haven't touched console gaming in years are already going to buy a ps4 just for that game. Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
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>>333361526
Ehhhhhh.

Metroid, brah.
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>FFXV and possibly Persona 5 will be out in 2016
What a time to be alive.
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>>333361386
So what you're saying is she's lucky?
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>>333361620
sure thing.

but it ain't sexy.
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>>333361514
I guess so. I don't expect really expect SE to listen till the last second though.

>>333361526
I was hoping for random girls. But whatever you pick I'm fine with.
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>>333361689
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>>333359654
>tfw the game doesn't interests you the slightest because the team is full boys and not mostly cute girls in sexy outfits
I'm beyond saving.
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>>333361689
I'll decide what i and is not sexy.
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>>333361756
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>>333361816
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>>333361156
>The sentence kinda does not fit perfectly.
You are attacking an unreleased game, then attacking people for defending an unreleased game. Both are fucking needless. At this point you are provoking an attack while not being any better than those attacking you, and trying to pretend you are a martyr. If you are fine with presenting your opinion, you should be fine with people disagreeing with your opinion.

>I'm just saying people could be less retarded about it
Looking through all the posts in the reply chain, none of yours seem to present as well thought out of an opinion as what you describe in your next sentence. Lead by example anon.

>because at that point I have no option but to shitpost right back
I've seen enough evidence on this site that suggests that shitposting ONLY thrives when they get replies. In a thread you may only get 4 shitpost attempts out of 100 replies when no one replies, yet in the same kind of thread you could have a majority of shitposts due to people actually replying. If you aren't part of the solution, you are the problem.
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>>333361887
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>>333361675
Yeah
She's finally happy
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>>333361941
I'm attacking a game I have played, and basing expectations of the full game on that. Any defense is by it's very nature less reasonable because it's based on nothing but faith that the problems will be fixed.

Again, I shat out useless replies because I wasn't given anything to work with. I'm not going to try and debate a shitposter. But I suppose I shouldn't reply at all.
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>>333361620
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>>333358473
You cannot die in your dream
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When will we start seeing pre-order copies in store?
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>>333362042
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Come to think of it FFXV-Kun should be here now.
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>>333362104

I think it's neat that the person who wrote this included Sylux, as he is supposed to be Samus's rival in the next game, whenever that is.
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>>333362163
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I forgot how silly this board is. Your are all a bunch of poorly adjusted ass bandits. And I love to watch you guys go at it.
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>>333362257
You lost me.
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>>333350512
>we can't have a team full of bro doing broing thing because normie consider this gay.

Fuck this gay world.
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>>333362484

ridley doesn't even take no shit after being killed six times
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>>333362546

anyway, that's it for metroid, unless you want straight up samus pictures.
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>>333362097

Hello?
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>>333362603
Thanks.
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>>333362710

Oh and I forgot to mention I have these weird pictures where it's a genderswapped version of Zuko from Avatar in a relationship with some chick from Dangitronpaul?

But yeah, that and what i mentioned before is all i got.
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>>333362374
You will always have some autists, but the normies are actually fine with it.
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>>333362603
Post what you have.
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uh

what happened to this thread
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>>333362042
>I'm attacking a game I have played
No, you are attacking a game that you haven't played, but instead you played a demo. You are attacking the game on faith, just as someone would be defending it on faith. An opinion isn't superior just because you have a bias towards your own opinion anon.
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>>333363253
not much
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>>333363347
My opinion is based on fact. The facts from a demo. Demos are more often that not very representative of the final product for the most part. I have every right to be worried and express that.

If you enjoyed the demo and aren't worried, that also makes equal sense. I disagree, but it makes sense.

But if you didn't enjoy the demo, and you still on blind faith think they're going to fix the core combat system and input lag problems in just a couple short months? Then your opinion is just worth less than everyone else's. Most games go into certification like three months before release. That'd only leave them like two and a half months to fix their bullshit.
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>>333362374

at least three of the characters look gay, two twinks and one of them is hard gay
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>>333363503
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>>333363637
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>>333363563
They don't look gay in any way
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>>333363503
The input lag isn't that hard to fix and the combat system is solid.
All they have to do in the remaining months is polishing the game and selecting tracks for the radio
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>>333363878
>>333363915

Still cause for worry as far as I'm concerned.
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>>333363973
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>>333364029
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>>333364092

that's all the samus i have. like i said, formatted my hd.
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>>333363326

shitposter got buttmad and started spamming metroid shit
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>>333350778
FFXIII was bad only because it's development was a poorly-managed shitshow.

It took 6 years. Square demanded a new engine be created to run all future games on every console. In addition, it had to handle animation, lighting, physics, character modeling, motion controls, networking, basically more than any other game engine in existence. The first two games would be FFXIII on the PS3 and FFXIV the PC MMO.

So they spent 4 years on the engine, the artists worked in a cave and wound up producing 3 times more assets than could be fit on a blu-ray. They wanted the game translated to english alongside development, so the english team wound up translating five whole games worth of discarded script. Getting a final script from the Japanese was impossible, since it seemed like everybody had different versions.

By the 4th year Square demanded a demo be released. So they made a battle system designed to match their earlier trailers, and it was only at the demo's release did they have an idea of how the game would actually play. Crystal Tools was unsurprisingly far from complete, so they parsed it down to suit FFXIII's loot hallway. The final script was modified mostly to tie together a bunch of art assets, the cutscenes were finished first and the rest of the game had to follow them
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>>333363326
we worked out our differences and someone asked me politely to dump whatever yuri content I have. then some worthless faggot had to go and sour the vibe.
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>>333363563
What is looking gay?
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>>333363503

I hear alot of this input lag but I've never noticed any.

Sure your tv/monitor isn't playing a role in this lag?
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>>333363503
>The facts from a demo.
Right, so your opinion is only based on facts when your opinion is strictly about the demo. The demo isn't the final game. Your opinion is not based on facts when you are talking about the final game, because there are no facts. The game isn't finished. The game isn't released. Anything you say until then is conjecture, and you are bashing a defensive opinion because it can be based on nothing but conjecture.

No matter how much you try to argue against this, you are wrong. Accept this and make better posts against FFXV in the future so that people who aren't shitposting can take you seriously.
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>>333364250
Nah, it's a pretty widely reported issue.
And even if it wasn't I've tried multiple screens.
And even if I didn't, squeenix should be capable of making a game that works fine on any monitor, y'know, like every other developer literally ever.
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>>333364250
It does have some input lag, not like, the character moves a second later, kind of input lag. But it's noticable sometimes
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>>333364337

They chose to willingly put this demo out for people to play. Obviously they're at least somewhat satisfied with their work otherwise it wouldn't be downloadable. And more than that, it is very clear that the final game will be based at least vaguely on this general blueprint of gameplay.

This is not a PT situation where the final game is totally different. And don't try to tell me otherwise, because not only is that a ludicrous statement, since we've seen gameplay of the full game, and it looks just like the demo, but also because the game releases in just a few short months, and they wouldn't develop a combat system from the ground up exclusively for a demo.

Being worried about issues clearly present in this demo carrying over to the final game is the fucking definition of reasonable. There is literally nothing more concrete short of buying the game that one could be worried about. You are making every possible excuse trying to dismiss any possible fear over issues, and I don't understand what your malfunction on this particular issue is.

If you have a problem with the game as it currently is, like me, you have every single reason to be worried. If you don't have a problem with it, then you have no reason to be worried. The logic in these statements being that until proven otherwise, we have to assume the game will remain largely the same. There is literally no foundation to assume sweeping changes and improvements.

That's the basics of it. If you still don't understand, I'm sorry, but I don't feel like explaining it for a third time.
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>>333364475
>not like, the character moves a second later, kind of input lag
Wait, what other kind of input lag is there? I didn't recognize any input lag either so I would love it if someone had a good explanation about what I should be looking for. Anyone point it out in a youtube video or anything?
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>>333361662
When is P5 coming out exactly? Fucking Atlus. Aren't they done milking P4 already
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>>333364734
He's saying it's not so severe as to be a full second later. It's much quicker than that, but still noticeable to those accustomed to action games.
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>>333364673
They already said the demo is not part of the full game
This demo was made in 2 months by a sjaol team, there is no kid noctis gameplay in the full game it was done just for this tech demo
The reason they made this was to test the lighting in day night and weather system with the dynamic res, they just decided to mock up some kid noctis thing just for this so people could play around with the lighting and day night and weather

The adult Noctis stuff was also heavily mocked up and stripped down, only had 4 weapons in a dummy environment with majority of other combat features not even in it

It was not a game demo, it was a tech demo, this tech demo does not take place in the game nor are these exact environment's the ones from the full game either
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>>333364673
If you were talking about the design of the combat in general, then yes you would have a good reason to be worried about the final game. You are mainly talking about performance issues though. Fine tuning performance should be one of the last things they change in a game before its release. There is reason to believe it will be fixed, and there is reason to believe it wont. You will believe whichever you choose based on bias alone, because if you were unbiased you would realize both are possible so there is no reason to believe in either and instead just wait and see what the outcome is.

My problem here is that you attacked others who disagreed with your opinion, stating they were not allowed to attack you because your opinion is superior. Just like you, I don't feel like explaining this anymore either. I understand your opinion, and you haven't had to restate it a single time to me. If you can express your opinion without attacking those that disagree, I would want to hear it in the future. In fact, right now I'm starting up the demo because I want to see if I can recognize the problems you pointed out since I didn't recognize it before.
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>>333365190
Yes, well, luckily not a single one of the problems I mentioned had to do with kid noctis or the environment or lighting or whatever. Nor did they have to do with a lack of weaponry.

But if you want to let me know what 'major combat features' they removed, I'm more than willing to conceit if they seem relevant to my issues I had with the demo. However, I will say I don't see those combat features including "a character that controls better" and "fixing the input delay".
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>>333364823
After playing games like super smash and monster hunter, I think I've probably become accustomed to a small amount of input lag so it probably didn't bother me enough to notice it.
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>>333365343
I'm not trying to shit up the game for anyone. I would be more than happy to be the only person on earth who noticed the issues. I hope this game is fucking fantastic for everyone. I wish I could enjoy it the way other people seem to be enjoying it.

I'm not disappointed just to fuck with you. I'm genuinely just worried they won't fix what I perceive to be problems.
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>>333365494
>I'm genuinely just worried they won't fix what I perceive to be problems
I actually had a problem with this recently. With Type-0's release the camera gave me headaches. I got to the point where I didn't expect them to fix the problem, so I sold it. I then found out they did change it after I sold it. Now I don't want to risk buying it again just to have it still be too annoying to play, but at the same time I hate not knowing... Is shareplay running pretty well? Maybe I can find someone who will let me try the game through shareplay.
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>>333365775
Assuming shareplay is the ps4 thing, then it worked fine when I used it for Injustice. It got fucking laggy once I started playing with people, but it seemed fine enough before that.
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>>333366027
>Assuming shareplay is the ps4 thing
Yes.

>look up share play details since I've never used it
>can play local multiplayer games together through shareplay
GOD DAMNIT. I could have been using my friend for end game grinding in One Piece PW3 this whole fucking time... Guess we will need to take a break from monster hunter tomorrow for some one piece.
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>>333362097

bump for interest
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>>333367190
Day 1 just like every other game in existence?
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>>333358553
Probably how combat was improved
>>333353698
>>333353867
Regis is probably a warrior of light empowered by some elemental crystal, who's going to age, probably going to go all galuf at some point and transfer power to noct
>>333358860
I'm not going to be able to play it for a few years after it comes out probably, I'd say long after the dust has settled, but these days the dust never settles
>>333357374
I just hope they have thematic stations, separating by genre and title, would love some ff bossa and beach music, all day
>>333359720
>>333359282
>>333358350
Sounds too much like ff13-3, they'll probably reduce it from it's initial concept
>>333359490
When did Lightning get the dirge of cerberus treatment?
>>333364194
Source? I do like to hear these stories
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>>333357113
Who are the group of 4 in the left portrait? They definitely don't look like Noctis and co
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>>333368790
Probably Regis when he was still younger
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How do they expect it to sell 10 million so easily? Besides Grand Theft Auto I can't think of many games that hit that mark.

I remember The Last Of Us being hyped to high hell and it only sold around 6-8 million.
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>>333368790
Regis' group, most likely.
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>>333355134
No it wouldn't have, the gameplay stinks
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>>333369673
They don't expect it; they just said it'd be nice if it managed to sell that much over the whole lifetime. And TLOU is around 10 million now, thanks to the Remaster.
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>XV's world is called Eos
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>>333370002
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eos

Fitting.
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>>333357374
Only the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ee_Ez6tFk
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Will we get another demo?

Platinum Demo is extremely lackluster.
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>>333370814
No, but the game will be playable to public at E3.
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>>333370994

well I guess I need to save some money and fly to my first e3 this year
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>>333371351
unless you're press, you're not getting in.
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>>333357374

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dladnt3Fuzc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLmsXxXArlM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orSsDsgMvhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaoIGag8SQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeQRZZIpMwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwuXLqqw_gU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCLojwnEQZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN9ulQ2P9Qg

Hopefully they update the radio music with free dlc (wishful thinking)
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DESU I don't mind the all-male cast, but I'd really like a female party member.

And the ability to make them look less metrosexual Japan fashion.
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>>333371780
You get your second wish, at least.
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>>333371572

fuck
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>>333371857
That looks literally even gayer.
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>>333371780

I don't know if the gamespot article saying Luna won't be a guest party member is legit or not, but all that dlc will most liked be cosmetic shit like alternate outfits.
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>>333371943
>Pay to make them look less gay
No thanks I'll just suck it up and deal with it.
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>>333371920

I think you've got some issues to work out with yourself man.
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>>333371986

We don't know what's paid or what's free yet.
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>>333371995
That suit design with that haircut? Absolutely NOT.

Either slick the hair back, or make the suit plain white.
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>>333372060
You have a point, the hairstyles should change with the clothes.

But FF loves their signature hairstyles.
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>>333372060

His kingdom isn't fond of white.
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>>333372060
Black is his kingdoms colour
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>>333372120
As if they won't have white clothes dlc in the future.
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http://www.wired.com/2016/03/final-fantasy-xv-platinum-demo/

Seriously this demo is a waste of 3gb. I found myself going back to ED.
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>>333372171
>>333372120
His kingdom can cuck the fuck outta here with that.
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>>333372279
It's royal custom
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>>333372060
>make the suit plain white

holy shit, have you ever gone to a formal function?
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>>333372060
Would be literally heresy for him. His country's aristocracy is as fixated on black as Nilfgaard in TW3.
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>>333372250
Erectile Dysfunction?
Demo was that bad?
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>>333357278
>>333357363
>especially since people don't like that thing much anymore
Where does this assumption even come from? Why do they assume that classic Final Fantasy can't sell and that people don't like it much anymore?

I remember how they were very surprised at Bravely Default's success. As if classic Final Fantasy was somehow dead. And I can tell you this, that if Bravely Default was instead carrying the Final Fantasy name, and had a AAA budget behind it instead of just the bare bones budget of scraps left over in between other projects that it had, then it would have sold a lot more.

I love Final Fantasy. And played all the main numbered games. But why should the brand make me interested in a fucking action game?
>>333350195
>When the team was starting Final Fantasy XV, the brand image wasn’t very clear.
And Final Fantasy going from a series of RPGs with somewhat established conventions, into an action game is somehow supposed to make that brand image clearer?
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>>333372369

I like how chill Regis is here.
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>>333372369
I hope all paid clothing isn't just black. That'd be a waste if the cast only dressed like teens that shop at Hot Topic.
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>>333372402

Compared to ED its a joke.
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>>333372469

I doubt it will be all black. They said that the guys will sometimes have to dress like locals.
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>>333372523
Yeah PD wasn't as great as ED, but Duscae had a lot more to do and going on plus a wider variety of monsters.

I don't see myself playing Platinum as long as i did Duscae, especially that you can't just skip to the combat.
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>>333372469
His team might, but in Noctis' case it's the law. As royalty he's allowed to choose between black and black with gold trims/decorations. Granted, he's already committed a few heresies anyway (like his gun usage, which is also forbidden), but still.
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>>333359509
I don't remember anything like that anon, but then again, I haven't been following this game all that well I suppose
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>>333372760
This color gang thing is interesting. And a bit funny.
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So: https://twitter.com/yozetty/status/717388250067808256

"I'll stop talking about FFXV soon, but I was allowed to capture hours of gameplay from that thing. Expect Destiny: TTK levels of coverage".

Are we to expect long gameplay videos from Game Informer? I literally have no idea how they usually do these coverages.
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>>333372806
He's right. From TGS:
>Dengeki: Lucis enjoys protection thanks to their crystal, but maintaining the magic Wall means that for generations the Lucian kings have been aging very fast. Please tell us more about this plot point.
>Tabata: This is pure fantasy, but it actually plays a quite large role. At the beginning of the game Regis is not even 50 years old, but he is already an old man. They really age extremely fast. The moment one becomes the king, his fate is sealed.
>Dengeki: So Noctis is destined for the same rapid decline?
>Tabata: Of course. After he takes the throne his aging will speed up.
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>>333372937
https://www.gameinformer.com/p/thetakenking.aspx

Their TTK coverage looked like this.
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>>333373056
Damn. The fujoshis won't be happy
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>>333373056
I hope we can get a significant change in Noctis' design througout the game, there should be more games that do that. Especially if he changes (even if slighty) his hairstyle.

Also, does anybody think we might get his placeholder clothes as an extra? I'd love to see how his current design (without the potato face and even weirder hair) looks in that and it'd be a nice touch for long time Versus autists such as myself.
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>>333373056
Old man Noct confirmed for FFXV-4 Swords of the Patriots.
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>>333373252
To be fair, I doubt Noctis will rapid age during the game as he technically doesn't have the throne yet. Most likely it will be some timeskip at the end
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>>333373252
Some official art already shows him vomiting blood (>>333354828), so if they do show some changes due to crystal cancer, it won't be pretty.
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>>333357113
Is Regis wearing a leg brace?
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>Final Fantasy XV.avi
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>>333373529
Looks that way. He has a cane looking thing near his brace, so maybe along with aging, being king causes health degradation.
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>>333373321
He formally became the king in the "I'll take it from here" scene in the newest trailer. The ring shown there is always worn by the reigning Lucis ruler, and he's shown putting it on.
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>>333351239
This game is mgsv
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>>333373529
Yeah. He walks with a cane in Kingsglaive, too.
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>>333354949
Nah, I don't like single player MMOs.
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>>333357374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUeFfG0cAZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRV0jtAj0Ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CMTXyExkeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-fleXlIRbs
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>>333373681
The question is though, in order to maintain the magic wall, does a king have to physically sit on his throne to protect the kingdom?

I don't think Noctis is maintaining a thing during a road trip.
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>>333350195
It kind of bothers me how most of the supporting cast and the setting has been redesigned to incorporate more a more fantasy-inspired aesthetic while still remaining modern but Noctis and his band have staunchly remained exactly the same with their literal Japanese urban fashion aesthetic.

They used to fit in with everything else but now that everything else has been changed they stick out like sore thumbs.
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>>333373681
It's not necessarily just the wall; any special magic usage might be harmful. In the old 2011 trailer his party was worrying about the negative effects his powers were having on his body.
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>>333357374
Holy shit, this is actually a VERY GOOD idea, send it to SE, man.
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>>333373979
Was meant for >>333373818.
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>>333373779
If you want to be taken for an idiot, then congratulations, you achieved your goal.
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So how does this GI coverage works? Are we having new info/video/whatever today?
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>>333374009
It's already confirmed.
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>>333374030
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the plot.
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>>333373649
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>>333350195
So now they've put a Game of Thrones character in the game to even out the gayness?
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>>333350195
>Tabata and his team at Business Division 2 identified three core qualities they believe define the FFbrand: challenging the status quo, providing an exceptional experience and using cutting-edge technology. He thinks FFVII was the last game in the series to use all three points. Final Fantasy XV is a make-or-break moment – a chance to bring back lapsed fans and new ones into the fold.
Too bad FFXV is a singleplayer MMO, the same issue that's been plaguing all the modern AAA games.
It also runs at 15 fps. So much for technology.
This isn't challenging shit, it's just desperately playing catch-up with the other big releases by copying their archetypes.

And with this mentality in the first place, the franchise will never be relevant again, it can only hope to be some sidekick in the industry. He's right with that line of thinking, at least.

FFVII, while mostly derivative of itself, did a lot of things right:
>pseudo-cyberpunk setting
Tons of effort was spent here, it's my favourite thing about the game - and it's an infinitely superior setting to the japanese backstreet boys "modern but with crystals" setting. Here we have two examples of two new ideas for their time, one being good, the other bad.
>materia system
Genuinely new mechanic that many games adopted as their own, industry-defining in some way - a shame it wasn't tested and ended up being broken and exploitable to shit - but the brilliance was there
>convoluted story
Which ultimately failed due to their incompetency to keep the plot holes out of their games as per usual, but it was a great effort nonetheless

Keep in mind that VII took a lot of risks for its time, being their first 3d high profile RPG. You may not realize it today, but the 5th gen was a bloodbath when it came to quality and audience reception.

Square just lost their touch, nothing else to say about it. I look at FFT, and I see quality. I look at FFXV, and I see an abortion that does not fill any gap nor needs to exist.
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>>333374449
Well, the GoT cast is only going to be part of the film from what I've heard.

Game has different cast.
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I can't take this game seriously not matter how much they want to hype out the game because of the damn boyband cast. Literally what the fuck, where is the goddamn charm and uniqueness? That's what made 12 10 9 and 7 so special.

>no females
>no monster characters
>4 fucking Vans split into his personality
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>Regis used to be a sharply groomed and dressed man
>now he looks like a fucking hobo
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>333374515
>Square just lost their touch, nothing else to say about it. I look at FFT, and I see quality. I look at FFXV, and I see an abortion that does not fill any gap nor needs to exist.
i can relate to that
to this day tactics is still one of the better tactical rpgs
xv didn't even come out and it's already been long outdone both as an action game and as an rpg, even by games that came out 10 years ago
i think square-enix needs some serious focusing on their games, their shit is just too diluted to have an impact or make a long-lasting impression
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>>333374946
see
>>333373056
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>>333374589
The charm comes from the characters relationships with each other.

Little things like the "On Tour" missions, the fists bumps and such in combat, and the short dialogues between the characters as you travel.
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>>333375107
Taking this into consideration, do you think squeenix will introduce some kind of love interest to one of the dudes?
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>>333374589

get some friends dude

wanting to play as females is gay

we barely have any broadtrop games like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbcgeczGC4k
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>>333375107
>The charm comes from the characters relationships with each other.
Can't you have that AND better variety/design? I don't think it's ever a one or the other situation.
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>>333375318

oh shit is that who I think it is
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>>333375382

I like that they're dressed similarly. We've got enough JRPG's with over-contrasting "variety".
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>>333374515
>singleplayer MMO
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>>333375475

S Q U A D
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>>333375318
Okay, holy fuck. I have gone all this time without hearing Noctis' voice. And wow he sounds like he should be twenty years older than he looks
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>>333375692

Yeah they mentioned that. I wonder if they asked the VA to tone down the Batman voice.

His jap VA is superb though, really fits him. Thank fuck for dual audio.
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>>333375475
There's forced contrasting variety that's vomit inducing and then there's cohesive different design that works together as a whole and improves the setting overall.
I just wish we had more of the latter.
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>>333375783
Well that's good. Will the full game have dual audio?
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>>333373056
Now that Noctis getting Regis's suit is canon this only makes this all the more legit
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>>333375827
>>333375783
Disregard, tired as fuck, didn't read your last sentence.
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>>333375896

Pretty sure there will be 4 languages.

Jap
English
German
something else I forgot
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>>333362374
>Goes to a party
>No girls
>Just men
>Emo
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>>333375869

oh shit
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>>333375869
Certainly better than his normal outfit imho famalam
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>>333362374
That's just the thing though. Any normie that has been on a roadtrip would understand that bringing females along is a bad idea. Also, normies don't normally play games to fuck the cast, so they don't normally complain about genders. I highly doubt all of this complaining about an all male cast is from normies.
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>>333375514
>huge empty map
>all you do in it is walk for hours and grind generic enemies, literally no difference if it were a corridor, just more padded
>exploration nonexistent thanks to the million icons telling you everything before you get to discover it, which are needed because the map is fuckhuge and mostly empty (and thus the vicious cycle of shit is completed)
>clearly defined "quests" that already give you all the information you need to complete, so it just becomes busy work, a checklist to complete, a clicker-tier gameplay experience
>dumbed down gameplay pretending to be engaging action
>200 hours of killing boars to loot their intestines, then you kill god
>you don't even play it with others to make up for the lack of quality content, as it's singleplayer
>concealed ways to repeat content because there's fucking nothing to do

Modern ubisoft games, TW3, MGS5, batman, xenoblade, XV, mad max, dying light, and so on

That's the singleplayer MMO

It has all the downsides of an MMO (dumbing down of everything required to have mass-multiplayer), without any of the upside (the massive multiplayer, the reason MMOs are crippled)

You're welcome
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>>333350195
>He thinks FFVII was the last game in the series to use all three points.

Oh boy, another FF7 dicksucker.
All FF7 did was use 3D graphics. That is all. Later games are far better. For example, FF9 is a fucking masterpiece and no one even talks about it.
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Platinum demo might be short as fuck, but I keep discovering new shit.

https://youtu.be/W9mOq9xAR0c?t=1m50s
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>>333376361
Nothing you said was true and you don't know what an MMO is
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>>333376361
So anon, you got to play the final version of the game for hundreds of hours? Any secrets you want to tell us?
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>>333376361

I at least appreciate the effort put into this shitpost.

4/10
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>>333376597
>Any secrets you want to tell us?
A game won't see a single relevant change to the core gameplay in its last 6 months. It's only a turd-polishing phase.
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>>333376361
So glad you have the inside scoop of the final product.

Preorder cancelled!
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>>333376869

I love how you're so desperate to shitpost 512 replies in.
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>>333376981

>>333376869
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>>333376869
Um, did you even read what you wrote >>333376361 here?

I don't remember ever playing any of the game. Sure, we experienced some gameplay mechanics that may or may not have very slight changes to them by release, but that is all.

Also if you want to mention Episode Duscae, remember that it wasn't supposed to be part of the game, and the game has clearly changed a bit since that demo anyways. It isn't even close to being a representation of the final game.
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So when does GI release their new shit?
The FFXV page says April 6th but for what timezone and when exactly?
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>>333375973
French.
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