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What do you want in Xenoverse 2, /v/?
Personally, I just want the first game + Dragon Ball Super characters, but with Budokai 3 combat.
>>333113151
Latino audio option.
>>333113542
we can't even get an official english dub for super, let alone latino
>>333113151
I don't want more shit games, thanks.
>>333113151
First game + more character + better fucking controls + The ability to change how your character fights.
Oh right. Beam struggles and Ally assists on knocked away enemies.
>>333113151
>What do you want in Xenoverse 2
Gameplay that isn't shit, for starters
>>333113151
That ;ppls terribler.
I want another non-card based DB JRPG.
>>333113151
How did this stupid kid Saiyan get up to the level of the gods?
Did they forget that their BASE forms are on par with Beerus now?
>>333113926
Hes not. He gets BTFO by Vegetable.
>>333113926vegeta is jobbing, he's pretending to even take hits, when he finally hits back he one hits him
also cabba is an adult
>>333114093
Vegeta flat out said they were equal when they were fighting in their normal forms.
>>333113883
Xenoverse gameplay is oddly similar to Musous, where you mow down fodder, but bosses have a lot of super armor. Except Xenoverse has no fodder.
>>333113151
Who the hell is that little shit punching Vegeta?
>>333114191
Vegeta's other other brother.
>>333113604
>we can't even get an official english dub for super
That's different though, we did it first, and we did it better. DBZ is a bigger pop culture phenomenon in central and South America than it is in the US. They even brought back the old cast for the movies, and that's a pretty big achievement considering all the shit that those VAs have to endure.
Also IIRC Super is going to be coming out on Toonami this year.
>>333114239
>>333113151
Man this show really looks like trash.
>>333113151
I haven't seen a single episode of super. Someone tell me wtf am I looking at?
>>333113151
Just gimme Champa and I'll buy it.
>>333113604
Saint Seiya and Naruto are getting dubs for Latam. DB will be no exception the next game for sure.
>>333114242
Toonami Asia, sadly. It's going to be the equivalent of the translation of an Asian-only "English" game, but as a dub.
>>333114191
Cabba. He's the Saiyan representing Universe 7.
>>333114143
To be fair, unlike Goku, Vegeta doesn't have the power of the base Super Saiyan God in his base form (IIRC) as he never obtained it, only SSGSS.
>>333114332
Oh, it is.
>>333114464
Toei is the fucking worst.
>>333114464
>recap arcs
The animation in those was fucking AWFUL, save for the Goku v Beerus fight.
The current animation is nothing to praise to the moon and back, but it's far better than this trash.
>>333113151
Excise the equipment and skill drops. Instead, expand the master system and have what skills and clothes you get correlate with your master. Want the Ginyu Force uniform? Go join them. Want to learn the Destructo disc? Go train with Krillin.
As it stands now, the master system sucks and the drop rates ruin the game.
>>333114464
>wait for the BluRays
>>333114528
They better redraw that shit for the blu ray release.
And skip the first thirty episodes.
>>333113151
>>333114464
Is the plot at least interesting to make up for this shitty animation?
>>333114565
When do the movie recap arcs end? Maybe I'll start watching from there.
People who like the new art should be fucked back and aborted.
>>333114682
90s cel version.
>>333114667
Yes. The current arc has the most interesting fights since Majin Vegeta.
The current arc starts at episode 28.
>>333114667
28 I think?
>>333114667
>Is the plot at least interesting to make up for this shitty animation?
Not really.
>>333114791
>>333114682
HOW THE FUCK DID IT GET WORSE THAN THE 90'S?
>>333114667
>Is the plot at least interesting to make up for this shitty animation?
No. It's toddler filler level. Nothing of consequence happening and characters act like flanderized parodies of themselves.
>>333114667
It's just a shitty tournament arc started over a flimsy excuse nobody cares about and there are no stakes if our heroes lose at all.
This is a 42 year old martial artist
>>333114682
The 90s one lost the texture of the undersuit, it's not supposed to be skintight
>>333113151
>Budokai 3 combat
What a fucking terrible idea.
>Actual DBZ-like fighting
or
>Generic fighting game fighting
>>333114983
Messy production schedule and new (young) animators with no talent.
And the fight choreography looks like stiff shit because they aren't allowed as many drawings as DBZ was back then.
>>333114682
The worst thing was that all the girls got less thick and turned into skellingtons.
The real problem with Super right now is that there's no real threat or stakes.
Nobody really gives a shit if they lose the tournament because they all know it doesn't really matter.
>>333115103
whenever a game tries to have real dbz fighting all the characters play the same
>>333114983
animator have no skill now. and even less budget.
>>333115035
With the physical age of like a 34 year old tops.
constantly being dead for long periods of time keeps him at a pretty young age.
Vegeta is old as shit though.
>>333115008
JESUS FUCK I THREW UP IN MY MOUTH
>>333114464
Jesus Christ this is worse than fan art.
Should have just let DBZ die out and let people enjoy their nostalgia. That is terrible.
>>333114682
>>333114791
Nostalgia goggles, DB quality has always been highly variable. Also not sure if that's from Fukkatsu or from Super since I've only seen the movie once but the bottom expression fits the scene far more.
>>333113542
No WE need the french voices. Éric Legrand is the best vegeta
>>333114983
90's is probably high peak of anime "animation", it was all hand drawn cells, so it has a unique style. Today all anime is animated by digital programs (think something like flash, but a little better)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsiepGvjjTM
This one is from 1995. All hand drawn.
>>333115161
being young has nothing to do with it, they just have no fucking budget
>>333115035
Do the hair colors make them stronger?
>>333115008
ppfftHAHAHAH
>>333114464
This looks more like a parody wtf
>>333115392
I just rewatched a good chunk of the buu saga and some of it is pretty well drawn, and then some of it is literally line art.
Also fuck the Vegito fight that shit was so anti-hype what the fuck. My childhood.
>>333115392
>Still frame
We've been over this. There's a difference between a still frame and actively bad animation like Super's.
>>333115392
It was obvious starting from the Cell saga they had two animation teams. But it was usually filler episodes that were shitty looking.
The talent DBZ team had nailed the look by the start of the Buu saga though. This new shit is worse than the old shit animation team from the 90s.
>>333115402
>Today all anime is animated by digital programs
You are silly.
>>333114667
The current plot is that Champa wants to eat Earths food so he starts a tournament to win Earth over to his universe. That's it.
Everyones response is basically "So what?" since Earth getting moved to a different universe doesn't actually mean anything.
>>333115392
Except that your example is not how he looked over the entire episode. Super looks like shit because the character designs and art are utter shit most of the time.
This has nothing to do with the animation, which is another insulting problem all on its own.
>>333114464
Still looks better than the new Sailor Moon.
>>333115609
Vegetoo was waay stronger though. how would a good fight come of that?
>>333115307
>whenever a game tries to have real dbz fighting all the characters play the same
That's literally Budokai as well. IIRC most combos began with PPPP→E. Even the SNES fighting games and beyond used the same inputs for special attacks.
Only thing Budokai series did right was making in-battle transformations worthwhile. I'd like to see that implemented in other DBZ games
>>333115782
Maybe Buu actually trying to get creative and making use of all his new abilities instead of just getting fucking styled on?
>>333113151
>really excited about xenoverse
>didn't want to buy it before my videocard arrived
>game released
>Its grindy as fuck
>its cheesy as fuck
>saiyans spamming supers
>melee combat barely works
>decide not to buy it
i just wanted something like the classic dbz games like budokai tekaichi or even raging blast
>>333115843
>his new abilities instead of just getting fucking styled on?
The gohan in him held him back.
DBZ was handled by several different animation studios, which explains the different art styles you see throughout its run.
Modern DB stuff, especially Super is produced solely in house by Toei themselves. This explains the consistently abymsal quality of art and animation.
And thanks to the stiff production schedule and no incentive to organize it better, the show will look shit like that until it ends.
>>333115782
Don't have it be forty minutes of him getting dick punched and reforming. It was fine at first but then they did it like 4 times.
He only used kamakazi ghosts and kamehameha
>>333113151
is it just me or does the new show look like shit?
i've never watched it
>>333115392
>but the bottom expression fits the scene far more.
I hope you're joking. The bottom one looks stiff and lifeless as fuck.
>>333115627
>We've been over this. There's a difference between a still frame and actively bad animation like Super's.
See here. I apologize for the Faulconshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeSxb9I-iNQ&t=35m43s
>>333115738
Yet most people (like the retard I quoted) argue that it's bad animation.
>>333116224
>disliking the best dub soundtrack
fucking weeb
>>333114682
I hate how plastic everything looks from the shininess.
Also the tick in primary colors
Those things makes the animation consistently worse than anything on DBZ.
>>333115920
Whatever gohan touches he ruins.
>>333116296
fuck you, dragon ball games are far better anything /a/ could call a videogame
>>333116224
Art and animation are two different things. Former is the designs of the characters, how they are drawn in still shots, whether they are on model or not. Animation is obviously the movement, how camera is placed and whether the blows have any impact whatsoever.
And Super sucks in both regards 90% of the time.
>>333116224
That's one of my favorite fights.
Also the second half(Roughly from when Cell blew up the ring) is way better animated.
>>333115307
>all the characters play the same
You mean like Budokai 3?
>>333115790
you actually had different combos for pretty much every attack including kamehameha iirc, so you could go --> e, ppp-->e or something else-->e, which gave you some options for stringing longer combos.
and for secondary specials like dragon fist the commands tended to vary more.
to be honest i prefer having specials inserted into combos on top of being usable by themselves, rather than have something like RB2 where it's all allocated to the right stick. i dunno it just feels more "fight game-ish" to have that string of commands/attacks. though maybe it's only good in 2D/2.5D games (i call dbz budokai 3 2.5D because you can circle around the enemy rather than being locked onto face-to-face and jumping.)
>>333116407
>I hate how plastic everything looks from the shininess.
The sheen is intentional. Yamamuro, the chief character designer apparently insists on them and everyone follows suit.
And I agree, it looks absolutely disgusting, as if they are coated in grease 24/7. The shading is just very bland and simple.
>>333113151
Better melee options for combat
AI actually respecting the Ki/Stamina system instead of spamming Ultimates out the ass.
Beam Struggles
Less RNG on Ultimate Finishes
>>333115326
good thing saiyans maintain their physical prime til 80
>>333116568
>Didn't play the game
Literally name two characters that played the same
So what fusions you wanna see for that 3DS game coming out later this year?
>>333117156
Bulma and 18
>>333116894
Goku and super saiyan Goku
>>333117156
Beerus and Champa
>>333117289
those are not two different characters
>>333115394
mon nigga
>>333115003
So what you're saying is it's standard DBZ plot?
>>333115361
there was no reason it couldn't be continued, it's just that they decided to spend NO MONEY on it so it looks like shit and has forever ruined the franchise
Anime fan service fighters are dead now. And they will stay dead until dlc stops being a thing
>>333114404
And even before that Vegeta never reached beyond SSJ2. I remember the movie had a line about Vegeta somehow becoming stronger while SSJ2 than SSJ3 Goku because of rage. But I don't believe the anime series, which Toriyama says is canon, included it.
>>333117924
>Forever ruined a franchise that ended in 1997
wew
>>333117156
Doesn't matter, all we're getting is saiyan based fusions for most of the slots anyway.
>>333117156
Bulma and Chi Chi so I can team them up with Gogeta and Vegeto.
>>333118373
>>333117848
>>333117249
Are any of the female characters even in the game?
>>333117629
If you have a good director and storyboards you can make the most mundane and trivially stupid shit captivating and exciting. Super fails on all imaginable levels in that regard.
>>333118517
Videl + Pan was in one of the scans
it's too big to post
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball:_Fusions#Gallery
>>333113853
FUCKING THIS ALSO ADD MORE TRANSFORMATIONS FOR ALL RACES
>>333118517
I actually don't know.
>>333118685
Oh wait that's cool then.
>>333118573
Still sounds like standard DBZ to me.
>>333114242
>Super on Toonami later this year
>Funimation still can't be assed enough to dub the Kai Bui Saga
Almost 6 years of collecting Kai and I have to look at that huge gaping hole between Cell Saga and Battle of Gods when going through my DVD rack.Xenoverse 2 needs more movies and greater variation in gameplay objectives to be better. Xenoverse feels like a fanservice game, but a bare minimum one at that for all the "what-if" it pushed, and it teases you with stuff like the Frieza race time patrol talking about how he fought King Piccolo who took over Earth & the Red Ribbon Androids. BT2 was better with amnesia Raditz and traitor Zarbon in the what-if department, and even B1 had Cellin.
>>333118685
>Tien+Yamcha
It's been a decade or so but Tiencha finally returns!
>>333119035
>still weaker than First Form Frieza
>>333113151
dragon ball kai buu saga dub when?
>>333118823
DBZ managed to have believable threats and high tension some times.
Super only has one moment with tension, and everything is just a joke. Everyone they've fought except Beerus so far has been a total push over.
>>333119675
>DBZ managed to have believable threats and high tension some times.
And yet the Buu arc could've ended at least 4 times if it weren't for characters constantly jobbing. At least every threat before that was actually a threat
>>333119850
>Goku jobs
>Gohan super jobs
>Vegito jobs
>Goku jobs again
Vegeta gets honorary jobbing mention for the Majin shit.
>>333113151
the combat was fine
what they should change is
>ssj more like unlocked potential
>no rng
>ssj hair spikes
>more races like android and alien race
>transformations for every race
>more colorable clothes
>no stats on clothes
>less and more usefull zsouls
>no gimmick zsouls that only work on specific situations like (can only be used when the enemy revives)
>better netcode and more options for the host in pvp like removing timer, items, zsouls
>kid buu version for buu race
>>333120210
Vegeta just want strong enough to beat him.
Goku and Vegito just didn't try.
>>333120210
>Gohan super jobs
The one thing I can say about Super is that it's never made me this mad
>>333120381
>Vegeta just want strong enough to beat him.
But even then, he's responsible for gathering enough energy to get Buu out.
>>333120381
Exactly why he gets honorary jobbing mention for starting it but not fucking up and not finishing it like everyone else. At least he tried.
>Oh hey I didnt kill kid buu because I wanted you to have your shot vegeta
>But now I cant kill him because I wasted too much energy
>Go get raped for ten minutes and buy me time to spirit bomb him
>>333120210
>Goku jobs
>"Hurrdurr I could've beat Buu in SSJ3 form I swear!"
>>Gohan super jobs
>"Durr I'm gonna fuck around with Buu EXACTLY how I did with Cell"
>"I can't catch a fucking earring"
>Vegito jobs
>I forgot what the fuck he was doing aside from wanting to get eaten
>Goku jobs again
"Oh fuck oh fuck I should've not used SSJ3 for so long"
>>333120265
>ssj hair spikes
This is one that particularly confuses me. Even Dragon Ball Online had that shit sorted, and that was a half-assed Korean grinding simulator, so how did Xenoverse manage to miss it?
I know they weren't expecting Xenoverse to sell well, but did they really think it'd do so badly that people wouldn't notice when they cut corners like that?
>>333114342
He is mine
Back the fuck off!
>>333120649
no time to implement it
like 80% of cell saga
>>333113151
wasnt this guy not suppose to know what super sayain was?
>>333113926
None of them compare unless not-Cell has anything interesting.
>>333120909
not knowing =/= not being able to
>>333120909
He doesn't. Vegeta baits him into getting mad and transforming.
>>333115008
>there are no stakes if our heroes lose at all.
The Earth gets moved to another universe.
Can someone give me an update on where Goku/Vegeta are standing, power-wise? Are they the strongest yet?
>>333121065
wow im really glad i havent watched a single episode of this shit
>>333121145
Which means nothing because it's just the same universe except their Saiyans aren't a gigantic bag of dead dicks.
>>333121149
They're on par with Gods of the universe, which is completely ridiculous. And they keep getting new Super Saiyan levels.
>>333120625
>I forgot what the fuck he was doing aside from wanting to get eaten
He was planning on rescuing who he could from inside Buu. He had no idea that it'd split him back into Goku and Vegeta.
>>333114332
>>333114464
>>333115361
>>333114667
>>333114628
>>333114565
>itt people forget how bad DBZ itself looked most of the time
Dragon ball animation wise has always varied from utter dogshit to okay at any given time. Super isn't any different.
Less spam would be nice
>>333115392
>Nostalgia goggles
You must be literally blind
>>333115276
the only problem is that Is Bills gets the Dragon Balls he just might wish for the destruction of the whole universe.
hence why Bulma wants to get them before Bills does
>>333121404
Oh. Thanks.
>>333121370
>They're on par with Gods of the universe
No, Beeru could still take them. Goku and Vegeta might stand a chance if they teamed up though.
>>333121149
>Can someone give me an update on where Goku/Vegeta are standing, power-wise? Are they the strongest yet?
No.
>>333121370
>They're on par with Gods of the universe
Not really. Beerus was toying with Goky. Whis would slaughter Goku and Vegeta simultaneously.
>which is completely ridiculous
Yes, the Saiyan power levels are getting ridiculous.
>>333121425
90's animation is just better. The current animation techniques look like flash sometimes.
2D animation is a dying form and will never return to its former glory.
>>333113151
Androids and Bio-Androids, make being a female Saiyan something. So you can tell all the other Saiyans to stop hitting on you until they can beat you in combat. No tail grabbing.
>>333121559
stop
More clothing and more customization options for them. For example the saiyan armor, instead of a selection that's like "saiyan armor 1, saiyan armor 2, etc, Bardock's armor" just make it where you have a few different saiyan armors and you can customize each part of it. Attach groin pads, shouder pads, change the loops over the shoulders, add a V neck, add symbols, etc. Put the right parts and colors on it and you can recreate armor of official characters if you want.
>>333115738
>>333115392
No, plenty of episodes looked shit the whole way through.
A good example is the 16 vs imperfect cell fight.It lasted two episodes. The first episode was animated terribily and looked like complete garbage, in the second, it has some of the best art the series has seen.
>>333121631
No, you are just an idiot with nostalgia gogles. Plenty of Digital 2d animation looks far better then it ever could traditionally.
>>333121941
>No, you are just an idiot with nostalgia gogles. Plenty of Digital 2d animation looks far better then it ever could traditionally.
I keep hearing that. I am not seeing it.
>>333114682
Top looks like shit senpai, there I said it. Maybe cause it's fan art, but that should wouldn't pass nowadays.
>>333121631
The problem is time and money. The animation industry in Japan in particular is especially fickle. It has nothing to do with producing a quality product, if something is destined for television, it is produced to a time table and the product in question's quality is second to expediency of production. They just need something to put on the screen, anything.
In terms of planning, Japan's television/animation industry is very poor. America is actually leagues better at managing it's animation. As an example, it takes one whole year to produce an episode of Futurama.
>>333113542
>grew up watching DBZ up to buu saga with latino dub
>absolutely glorious
One of the reasons why DBZ holds a special place in my heart.
>>333122057
Fucking atrocious bait. You should be ashamed.
>>333122218
Marry me
>>333122139
Taking an entire year to produce one episode doesn't really sound impressive.
>>333122020
Well, the best piece of animation i've ever seen period was something made 2 years ago:
https://vimeo.com/114099080 it starts at 1:30
If 2deep5u bullshit isn't your thing then you can ignore the symbolism going on but just in terms of the animation alone I think you'd appreciate how damn good it is
>b-but that's just a music video it can afford to have animation that good!
Yeah well I can't think of a single old animated series that has consistently good animation either, most of the really good stuff iis OVA's or movies, same as now. I'd say gurren lagann has pretty consistently good animation though.
>>333121425
>Super isn't any different.
Super is different in that it's lows are the lowest the franchise has seen, but it's highs don't even come close to those of DB/Z (though it's pretty close to GT in all honesty). It's just got a much worse average is all.
The shitty choreography isn't helping hide the bad animation either. They need to bring Toyotaro in to do the storyboards; his manga still follows the same boring plot points, but at least his fights are more fun to look at.
>>333122057
r u blind
>>333122235
Looks discolored as fuck, check your eyes. That may work traditionally drawn but it looks like ass digitally. Unless the fan art is just shit at recreating the original style.
>>333122278
Every episode is produced roughly at the same time and they manage to meet all slot time-tables. They plan ahead. A show like Dragonball Super is produced on demand, which means they need to do it quickly and cheaply, and that is why the quality is absolutely atrocious.
>>333113151
>I just want the first game
>but with Budokai 3 combat.
So you don't want the first game, then? You're asking for a completely different game here.
>>333122423
see
>>333114791
If you miss the grain.
>>333122423
>I'll use a bunch of words together that don't mean anything, that'll fool em
>>333122485
>A show like Dragonball Super is produced on demand, which means they need to do it quickly and cheaply, and that is why the quality is absolutely atrocious.
Doesn't help they pretty much have a week to make new stuff,
>>333122218
Latino dub is superior even to Original, this is objective.
New Day DLC when?
>>333122853
>I'm too autistic understand what he said so let me pretend what he said means nothing.
>>333118274
Doesn't hurt to have hope anyway
>>333113151
Budokai 3 on PC oh yeah!
>>333123406
Oh, make me realize that the white ranger's armor is almost the same as saiyans.
>>333113151
Complete removal of RNG shit for clothing items, Dragon Balls and whatnot.
>>333114332
this episode was good though
>>333116224
>Jewtube and Funishit forcing everyone to change the voices into squeaky or deep
capitalism destroys all
>>333113151
Vegeta vs Magetta was better than this episode tho
>>333113151
I stopped watching right before Goku fought Winnie the Pooh. I think I'm going to wait until this arc is done, and then just marathon the whole thing. Is this show supposed to end after this arc?
Take the example of Tenkaichi 3's gameplay, make it better and faster if possible. Have that variety of characters and add Super. Have character creation again with more races(like Androids/Cell/Robots race, demon/mutant race, Kai race, etc) and allow us to use any kind of transformation. Have what-if scenarios and normal story mode but in different perspectives (like villains). Don't make us fight 7 saibamen or cell jrs. Have 3 vs 3 in-game. Have online with versus, tag, tournament. Download other people's characters and face them or use them offline. Have the equip item system of RB2 with the level system from Budokai 3. No RNG bullshit, just have store in-game with Bulma like the older Budokai did. Have the original japanese or american soundtrack as option and dont rehash the same dragon ball videogame musics for 10 years.
Oh, and make Tenkaichi series available on the PSN, Steam, whatever.
>>333115392
The animation is just bad. Hand drawing was better, this digital toei era is just bad.
The fights look bad overall on Super, while on Db to Z despite some bad draws here and there, the fights looked better and there was choreography into them. Right now there is no choreography in the fights. Just Magetta vs Vegeta looked fine and the 2nd half of SSJ Vegeta vs SSJ Cabba.
And btw, One Piece is also suffering from this toei digital era. Toei is just bad right now. If they can't meet the expectations then have a Super episode every 2 weeks or every month but as a special.
>>333130181
It's possible the tournament will be interrupted by someone, Hit beat Goku and Monaka and Earth is on U6, or U7 wins, just to continue in the search of the last Super Dragon Ball.
>>333118373
You don't need to wait to see that.
>Cabba trying to say "I surrender" while getting kicked up into the air
Broke my heart, was hoping he would have been a bit stronger but still a nice guy.
I only keep up with Supee through reading /v/ DB threads what's going on now since Goku got bodied
>>333133924
>stronger
Did you forget how strong are base form Goku and Vegeta now? Cabba actually fought quite nicely against someone that strong and experienced. Now even their SSJ are much but much stronger because of Saiyan God thing and training.
At this point Goten and Trunks are jokes against a guy like Cabba. Gohan...? Who knows.
>>333134624
>Piccolo almost beats Frost but gets beat too
>Jaco notices Frost is actually using a weapon which is against the rules
>judge finds out Frost is using poison needles
>about to get DQd
>Vegeta steps in and says he'll fight him, tells Piccolo to surrender his match
>Goku gets reinstated as well(he'll go after Vegeta does if Vegeta loses)
>one shots Frost whose real personality is just like Frieza
>fights the metalman guy
>nearly loses but still wins
>fights saiyan in the OP
>intentionally acts cruel to get him to go SS
>one shots him in SSB
>now about to fight the purple guy
And previews for next episode show purple guy destroying Vegeta somehow.
>>333134820
Gohan would probably job to Cabba too, but still, I was sort of hoping he would have given Vegeta a little more trouble.
>>333114791
Fuck. It's so beautiful, man.
>>333134971
So is Piccolo reinstated too then? What a dick.
>Vegeta loses to the strong guy and Goku saves the day
Nice to see nothing has changed
>>333135553
>Implying Monaka wont beat Hit
Beam struggles, better melee, transformations for everyone, less bullshit rng.
>>333135553
Frost was gonna get DQ'd and Piccolo reinstated but Vegeta told him to forfeit his turn so Vegeta could beat up Frost, and then Goku was reinstated later. During all the matches purple dude(Hit) kept his eyes closed. Frost sneaked out of the tournament to try and steal some prize money Champa promised them but Hit followed him and one shotted him with some move no one knows. When Vegeta went SSB Hit opened his eyes, so people think he's able to sense god ki or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUYVto3Yb8w
>>333135649
>implying Monaka isn't actually weak
>>333134971
>Gohan would probably job to Cabba too, but still, I was sort of hoping he would have given Vegeta a little more trouble.
In the anime it seems Gohan is training again. But that Gohan against Freeza was a joke.
The universe 6 warriors until now seemed more about gimmicks than raw strength. Hit seems like both from the preview, unless his speed is based as hell+ the ability to fuck people up with their ki
About Cabba, I didn't expect much of him from the moment he didn't know what a super saiyan was.
>>333121914
add more hair options for Human, Saiyans
>>333115035
He's like 30 something, and saiyajins are young even when they're 80.
>>333135763
What makes you think he's weak?
>Inb4 he passed out with Goku's Kamehameha
He was just bored.
Transformations to be actual transformations rather than seperate characters.
>>333136150
Inb4 he only exists to get Hit to kill him and get disqualified because of how weak he is.
>>333135649
Monaka just random dude without strength.
>>333136087
Botamo was pure gimmick. Frost was actual strength like Frieza just a lot weaker so he had to resort to cheating. Magetta was essentially pure strength too but Champa was a faggot and exploited his heat abilities with that barrier, Cabba was pure strength too but obviously now shown to be weak compared to Goku/Vegeta. Hit is probably gonna have a dumb gimmick power we don't know about too.
>>333136150
>Whis asking Beerus how long he's gonna keep Monakas true colors a secret for
>>333136232
Only thing I can see him doing is just some stupid joke fighting style involving his nipples or something.
This parallel universe suck balls at power level.
No trained freeza.
No cell.
No buu.
No SSJ.
It seems without Earth galaxy was very peaceful place.
>>333113542
No. You have to go back.
>>333136380
I honestly think he's either just some guy that Beerus is hyping up to keep Goku and Vegeta on their toes knowing there's someone else above them. Either that or he has some one time gimmick that makes him lose all control.
He could even be like a puppet for Beerus to control through meditation.
>>333136431
Why did Champa even challenge Beerus when his fighters are so terrible compared to his
>>333136254
Beerus wouldnt be an idiot putting someone like Monaka at last.
>>333136232
Or he somehow beats Hit, probably Hit's powers dont work on him because reasons.
>>333136431
I mean, it's not peaceful. Frost was waging wars on planets just to lower their land prices.
>>333136380
>Cabba was pure strength
He is weak, even compared to Piccolo.
Base Cabba ~ Base Goku/Vegeta
Final Freeza > Base Goku
Piccolo ~< Final Freeza
>>333130181
Why don't just wait until BDs come out? BDs look much better than TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teVAkz3BNeI
first 2 arcs are already out in BD
>>333136516
>He could even be like a puppet for Beerus to control through meditation.
I like that idea actually
>>333136551
He didn't expect Goku or Vegeta to be so strong. He does have a lot of faith in Hit though.
>>333136623
I mean his fighting style, it's all actual skill on his part. Plus Piccolo was a lot weaker than Final Frost, he only stood a chance because Frost was heavily weakened and he could only rely on a Special Beam Cannon he was charging the whole fight.
>>333113151
>ability to wear more
>ability to color every portion of clothing
>original moves maybe
>more races
>fix the drop system from being a small percentage of a small percentage
>>333113542
why I'm just content with jap.
>>333123406
>Michael Cole namedropping Vegeta at Wrestlemania
>>333113151
i want to fight with Mah boy Magetta
>>333136431
Are you retarded or just pretending? You do realize all these guys could solo Super buu after absorbing Gohan easily, right? You're not so stupid to believe because Goku and Vegeta didn't went past SSJ it means they're not as strong right?
>>333136623
>Final Frieza > Base Goku
Wrong they were equals, and this Goku is stronger than he was in RoF.
>>333121469
How can the dragonballs grant a wish to destroy the whole universe? What happened to the rule that the dragonballs are only as strong as it's creator?
>>333136380
I will say that Magetta has also a pretty solid defense. No wonder he got sad for losing like that.
Overall U6 is a disappointment since we were kinda expecting some really strong dudes from the other universe, but until now nope. If it wasn't for Frost, Goku if serious or just Vegeta could take everyone alone until Hit.
>>333136551
He can't judge others powerlevels like Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, hell even Master Roshi can. And Vados is laughing internally.
>>333137302
Oh anon you don't know about the Super Dragon Balls. The ones as big as planets that can grant any wish.
>>333137321
Yeah they had to write out some of the U7 people too
>Buu fails the entrance test
>Goku gets poisoned out
>Piccolo willingly forfeits just for Vegeta
>Vegeta probably gonna get jobbed but not after wrecking shit for 3 straight battles
I wonder how Goku will fair against Hit.
>>333113151
better controls and fluid movement. I mean you are fighting as martial artist, and all of them play the same just their stats are different.
So let's say, Saiyans are all rounders
Humans take more skill to play because they rely on technique than strength,
Nameks are are the slower but can recover faster and maintain ki better, frieza clan is speedy and majins can do status effects and move more clumsy but they do damage while doing it.
this all has to do with the characters actual movement. So the reaction from control to character has to be imidiate.
now if the player wants, you should be able to take reaction time away to build on other stats of your character. But in the end right now all the combos they do are the same right now. So movement and actual differences between races besides just stats
>>333137472
Goku is gonna get wrecked by Hit so we can see Monaka fight or Monaka won't get used and Beerus will mock Champa with a "Haha I didn't even use my strongest fighter"
>>333137302
Also it's fair to notice that Beerus himself says that gods don't "wish" for things, they only do things that might be fun.
So him wishing for the universe to disappear may or may not happen, but if he really wanted he could just destroy it by himself quite easily.
>>333137334
I admit I haven't watched more than 3 episodes of Super
How did those even come to exist? who would have the power to create them? if someone created them then shouldn't that person be stronger that Whis and Bills?
>>333115035
I can't wait for the plot arc where everyone learns goku has thousands of years left alive because of Old Kai giving him his life
>>333137595
If Goku can figure out Hits technique before he steps in I can see him winning, and then Monaka is revealed to just be a joke character at the end.
>>333137646
They're so powerful that all 7 exist between two universes. Champa snuck into Universe 7 to steal their ones so he could have the full set. I have NO idea who created them.
>>333137706
>Monaka needs to be a joke character guise!!! there can't be anyone stronger than muh goku!!!!!
Fuck off.
The oracle fish is Monaka.
>>333121425
> how bad DBZ itself looked most of the time
Except it didn't.
As someone who just got done watching DB (For the first time) and rewatching DBZ, I'll acknowledge the quality does vary more during DBZ than it did in DB, but it's nothing compared to Super.
Super hasn't even reached episode 40 and most of it has not only bad animation, but terribly choreographed battles.
Quality in DBZ varied a fair bit but to imply that most of the time it looked bad is just straight up wrong.
There were a bunch of episodes with weak animation, sure, but none of the fights were ever that bad; no where near it.
The biggest issue with DBZ from a visual standpoint is the art style changing dramatically between episodes, but most of them still look alright and while certain artists were definitely worse with animation than others, it was never as consistently bad as in Super.
That's not to say all of Super looks like shit - it doesn't. But the episodes that do look quite good are usually the ones with none or little fighting - and even the ones that do look okay or serviceable, the weak choreography is the biggest issue.Which is probably why I prefer the fights in dragonball to most of zs, because there seems to be a bigger emphasis on choreography and fights pulling out new techniques versus power levels and beamfu.
>>333113151
Less retarded character customization
Like outfit slots that let you look however but without changing stats.
More body types, more race types, less horrible attempts at race "balance".
>>333117156
Adult Gotenks.
>>333119579
I have no idea. I'm still waiting for this. Is it even going to happen or did they just stop? Last time I looked it up I could only find out-of-date information and no one knew for sure when or if it would release.
Sucks cause I never made it fully through the Buu Saga cause I thought it was way too drawn out. Kai would be the perfect thing to happen to it so I could finally finish DBZ.
>>333137898
Dragon Ball does look much better than Dragon Ball Z.
Dragon Ball Super looks really good in BDs, TV broadcast is just rushed because Super itself is really fucking rushed, it was made on short notice and animators didn't have time. Poor scheduling
>>333113151
Freezer dudes transformations.
Androids and Cell biodroids.
Cosmetic and stats not linked. And make everything recolorable.
FIX THE RNG SHIT
Less beam spam.
Give it a good soundtrack, not some generic gookrock shit. At the very least license the original Kikuchi OST.
If still doing a CaC story, don't make them mutes. Play around with the voices personalities, have banter.
Better game design all around. Xenoverse is a great start because they can see all the retarded shit that didn't work and avoid that for the next game.
>>333113151
More options for customization
Saiyans hair actually spikes when they transform
Other races get transformations like Super Namekian
More races such as Androids, Cat People (based off beerus) or Kai's
Carry the story through more of Dragon ball and Super.
Make it less focused on spam the same super to win.
>>333138014
Why not read the manga you gigantic faggot, the anime doesn't hold a candle to Toriyama's art, pacing and fights.
>>333137898
I agree here
I just finished rewatching DB a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the middle of the Frieza saga and so far the quality has been good overall. some dips here and there but nothing too bad
I remember the quality dips starting being more noticeable during the Cell and Buu sagas tho
>>333138125
It's a different medium entirely. I don't enjoy reading manga. Even if it is better, I'd have to read through every single volume because I'm sure that the manga and show are different enough to not just pick up one from another.
>>333137807
Beerus is hiding something with Monaka, Goku punched him and he started crying, and Beerus was super jumpy about Goku wanting Monaka to go before him, and I believe Whis asked Beerus how long he was going to keep up the act with Beerus telling him to shut up.
Chances are Monaka won a bet against Beerus or something and has to tote him as the strongest in the universe(below the gods of course).
>>333138524
The thing is, Goku's punch only dented Monakas face and didn't do much else. I feel like that punch would send anyone else flying.
>>333113151
Why does everyone try the "throw-a-barrage-of-tiny-energy-balls" move when it's never ever worked
>>333138524
Whis also said that Monaka's race is really peaceful but they get super strong when enraged.
And there's a thing called misleading, Toriyama has done it several times.
>>333138880
>Whis also said that Monaka's race is really peaceful but they get super strong when enraged.
When was this?
>>333113926
We don't know how strong Cabba is aside from the fact that he IS one of the strongest beings from his universe.
Honestly you can't take shit for granted when you have winnie the poo and nipples nigger lips as the strongest in the universe too
>>333118685
>Goku + Broly
>not called Broku
>>333118685
>Videl+Pan
>You will never fuck your wife-daughter
and neither will gohan since he's a gay fuccboi
>>333138985
Well Winnie the Pooh's status as one of the strongst seemed mostly tied to his sheer defense. Nothing apparently can harm him, even Goku going ham on him.
>>333138985
>We don't know how strong Cabba is aside from the fact that he IS one of the strongest beings from his universe.
He is on par with Vegeta on base mode, Vegeta is(now) stronger than base mode Goku when he fought Frieza in RoF, Frieza's first form was already beyond every other fighter and they said he was just too fucking strong.
SSJ Cabe could probably pick a fight with Vegeta but since it was his first time transforming and all that he's weaker.
SSJ Cabe should be somewhere near SSJG Goku when he fought Beerus, well not the god but the SSJ after absorbing god ki which had the same powerlevel.
>>333139239
So why isn't Vegeta going super cyan
shouldn't that be something you do normally all the time now
>remember when dbz was all about the quality animation
Make the game less like a really shit fighting game and more like a really good action adventure RPG.
I'm thinking like those Legacy of Goku games in terms of exploration and scope, but 3D.
Basically an action (or fuck, make it n MMO) version of Dragon Ball Online
>>333116224
>I apologize for the Faulconshit
Are you implying that there's something wrong with Faulconer's soundtrack?
I'm not that into animu stuff, what exactly is jobbing?
>>333139440
Basically being on the butt end of a one-sided fight
>>333139375
yeah and when goku 1st turned super looked so good then the next ep he looks like ass
>>333139440
Jobbing is what Yamcha does for a living
>>333117156
Chi Chi + any Saiyan
The power of anger alone would instantly make the fusion like, SSJ2.
>>333139440
When a "powerful" character loses to a new character to in attempt to make the audience understand that the new character is strong.
>>333138931
>Their true power is such that once they bear their fangs even Beerus-sama would have a difficult time trying to corral them
>They expect me to believe Krillin could score a girl like 18
This is some bullshit
>>333139440
Jobbing is when a character just gets stomped out completely. Usually, that's their job, to just get completely destroyed.
>>333139667
That's a KIND of jobbing, but it doesn't always have to be a strong guy. What you're describing is the Worf Effect.
But weaklings can job just as hard. Just look at 90% of shonen lackies.
get in here
http://nes.sne.jp
>>333139671
>Goku getting pertubed that his son isn't going to his tournament
Gohan needs to get his priorities straight.
anyone else fap to this ep? Also 18 being absorbed by Cell.
>>333139440
What the others guys said.
It is usually done so someone else can "appear" more heroic for defeating the guy who beat the one getting jobbed.
>>333115686
What's this from?
Looks neat.
>>333139440
Jobbing is when a character gets beaten and made look like a chump when said character should be stronger than that and therefore should not be losing
Then there are jobbers who are characters who just seem to be there to lose fights
>>333139671
why does it have little tiddies?
>>333139696
when you've got a sick ass TACOS shirt anything is possible
>>333139440
A character 'jobs' when they lose a fight they should have been able to win.
Vegeta is a good example, some of his losses (such as against Cell) happened because he did something stupid rather than his opponent simply being stronger than him.
>>333139696
Krillin is the best character so it stands to reason that he would get something nice
>>333139671
Even the manga doesn't look as good as the older one
>>333139696
not even the hottest girl he dates
>>333139696
it weirds me out that he still calls her Number 18
>>333113151
>>333138104
Just make Raging Blast 2 2 already, that game had the whole powering up/down shit perfectly. You can't do, say, play base Goku charge Kaiokens then power up to SSJ2 do some moves then power down and do a different thing
>>333121145
I need the sauce
>>333140198
I mean it's kind of her name, 17 and 18 refer to themselves as such so no point in digging up their old human names or whatever.
>>333140291
but like, just pick a new name or something
>>333139845
>when looking for other tournament players goku suggests his son and vegeta says he's a bitch boy and wouldn't be able to help anyways
>>333140431
Super Bulma does it for me in ways she never has before
>>333140475
Well Vegeta isn't wrong.
>>333113151
Does Japan not care about quality animation anymore?
>>333140528
MILF bulma is a strong contender for best bulmabut my heart will always belong to teen and afro bulmas
>>333140528
She's sagging.
>>333140475
Nope.
Goku doesn't know that Gohan is training again, when he finds him training with Piccolo he agrees with Gohan joining.
You need to remember that
1-Goku is never at home, you shouldn't believe a word he says about his family
2-The manga is rushed and not canon
3-The anime is canon
>>333140581
Not when it's Toei and you need to crank out weekly episodes for a lot of shit constantly and "The bluray will fix it" and you're a lazy studio anyways
>>333139696
Strongest Human son
>>333140706
>inb4 Krillin is not human because no nose.
>>333140475
This literally never happens. In fact Vegeta outright says to invite Gohan because he has much more potential than them. Then >>333140674 happens.
>>333113151
I thought those sayains couldn't go SS
>>333140752
Tien's human and he has three eyes
>>333140706
>>333140752
WHAT YOU SAY NIGGAS!?
>>333140431
So it stands to reason that this Dragon god is stronger that Bills, Whis, Champa and Vados right?
>>333140793
don't know how =/= can't
I just go back and play Budokai 3 and BT3 again since the DB series ended for me after DBZ. Everything else after it is trash and fails to amaze me anymore.
There is so much the devs didn't learn from these two games.
>>333140895
Probably, seems like it's some sort of primordial shit as opposed to high level agents of creation and destruction like the kais/kats
>>333138298
It's kinda annoying how people forget that when DB to Z there was a thing called manga. If the anime was close to the manga then fillers in the anime. The Namek Saga was so obvious that had filler everytime they could to extend things.
Super doesn't have this problem, because Toriyama is 'there'. The manga is almost the same thing, with few changes here and there.
>>333139375
From the moment Goku became a SSJ that fight had hideus drawing on both characters. There is a point Goku and Freeza have huuuuuge muscles out of nowhere. In the last episodes of that fight they reashed over and over the same fighting animation and you could see back then, and now, that they were out of ideas. And despise all that shit, the fighting animation/choreography was good overall. Specially compared to Super or GT.
Oh and another thing, in the episode right before Goku "killing" Freeza, they recap the Goku vs Freeza battle in like 5 minutes. You could literally skip over 20 episodes to that one and get what the fuck happened.
>>333115394
Mon negro
>>333140793
>those saiyajins
Cabe didn't know how, that doesn't mean he can't.
And he said in this episode that the king of planet Sadara is strong like Vegeta.
>>333140291
Her name is Lazuli which is super cute. But I guess that's who she used to be.
>>333116224
>"I apologize for faulconshit"
The only thing you need to apologize for is for being born you fucking plebtaste imbecile.
>>333141221
>17's real name is Lapis
gay
>>333141053
But then it still leaves the question of how are the nameks tied to this dragon god
They better have an explanation for this
>>333141102
I don't get it
Are you saying that Super is better because it doesn't have filler?
i always loved db but it feels like they've written themselves so far into hardcore shit that there is no saving it.
>>333113151
I want Chiaotzu goddamnit. They have Saibamen, but they're forgetting a Z Fighter, why?!
>>333140768
>This literally never happens
yes it does
>>333115008
Holy shit, it's like they just scaled him up
>>333141759
Now I wonder which one fits Goku as a character more
>>333139942
>Gohan says that Videl should cut her hair because someone could grab those pig tails
>she gets all wet and gets the message wrong thinking that Gohan likes short haired chicks
>later she fights someone in the tournament that grabs her every way possible and beats the shit out of her
Gohan was right. From that moment she was damaged goods, she never went back to that tomboy again.
>>333141359
Unless the nameks were space niggers. If they stole a piece of the Super Dragon Balls that's what they were.
>>333141479
No. I was talking about the problems DB and Z had because of being close to the manga.
>>333115008
Oh fuck, you know what they did? They literally minimized and then enlarged him in whatever program they're using. Frame by frame they did that, Jesus fuck, I knew they were cheap, but not THAT fucking cheap.
>>333141759
Are you retarded?
>when looking for other tournament players goku suggests his son and vegeta says he's a bitch boy and wouldn't be able to help anyways
This literally never happens and you just posted a pic to prove it. Please kill yourself
>>333141862
Manga and anime Goku are two different people.
One doesn't really give a shit about being a hero, saving the world, or anything else, really, he just wants to fight strong dudes.
The other is THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE.
>>333142825
look the first image you stupid fuckhead
>>333142882
>Manga and anime Goku are two different people.
No, stop spreading lies.
>One doesn't really give a shit about being a hero, saving the world, or anything else, really, he just wants to fight strong dudes.
>The other is THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE.
Just in your garbage dub, burger.
>>333143048
they are, if you read it you can tell the difference. Even toriyama said his goku was different from anime goku. Goku in the manga is more battle thirsty and less kind compared to anime goku.
>>333143045
Vegeta says Gohan has the most potential, Goku says that he's not training(not true but Goku doesn't know) and Vegeta says that's regrettable. In no moment Vegeta mentions Gohan being a useless bitchboy.
Are you genuinely retarded? Serious question here.
>>333143191
>Vegeta says that's regrettable
>Are you genuinely retarded?
Are you?
>>333143174
Goku in the anime is never the hope of the universe, that just happens in your shitty dub.
>>333143332
This is bait right?
>>333143332
Vegeta is saying that Gohan having more potential than all of them but not training is regrettable because Vegeta respects Gohan as a fighter.
He never mentions Gohan being useless or demeans him at all. I mean you do realize Vegeta has respect for Gohan right?
>>333143352
I never said that, that was the other anon, Toriyama says the show makes goku look like more of a hero than her really is, Goku in the manga loves to fight and does good things as a byproduct of his current goal. In the anime they treat him like some what of a saint who doesn't do wrong and worries more about people and protecting people. anime goku is nicer where manga goku is just blunt.
>>333143606
>In the anime they treat him like some what of a saint who doesn't do wrong and worries more about people and protecting people
But this literally never happens man.
>>333143532
Not that anon but I recognized this back in Dragon Ball Z honestly, when Vegita gut punches Gohan on Namek when he could have just killed the shit out of him.
Ive had that feeling he respected him for a long time, it really is a shame.
Also
>He has the most dormant potential out of all of us.
>Before they leave, Gohan wants to start training again.
Holy shit is this foreshadowing that Gohan is going to train and become some ultimate bad ass again? Not a Gohan fag here, kinda hate how he turned out as an adult, but this DOES have foreshadowing dosent it?
>>333143829
Well if you remember well Gohan and Vegeta beat the shit out of each other in the saiyajin saga. Also Vegeta is just tsundere, Gohan is a saiyajin and he's fucking strong so of course Vegeta likes him, he also killed Cell and avenged Trunks.
And when Buu "killed" Gohan Vegeta was pretty mad with Buu and himself for allowing it to happen.
>>333143731
here is what I mean
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/27/new-interview-translations-akira-toriyama-special-talks/
>>333144051
That is true, I forgot all about the whole Buu Gohan part.
You know what, and I know these motherfuckers wont do it.
I wanna see Vegita train Gohan, just cause, I wanna see what a harsher Piccolo can accomplish.
>>333118963
Mexico is in the same boat, they just started dubbing Buu earlier this year, that said I just watched the dub recently and we got the butchered censored version from Burguerica, it's better to watch it online, there's people adding the uncensored stuff and syncing up the dub quite nicely, though it hits you hard when certain OST changes happen and random japanese vocies from the added stuff.
>>333119398
I think it was stated that Yamcha hits the 500,000 in some release somewhere
>tfw no art of Vados with her hair down
kill me
>>333143829
Gohan had been training for a while with Piccolo already anon, you can see he has some muscle back and all that. He just couldn't attend.
It's not really foreshadowing, more like Toriyama not writing himself into a corner by asspulling a Gohan power-up, he's training now so people won't complain when he's super strong again.
>>333143829
All he has to do is to wish youth back to his Buu days and hit the chamber once in a while so he doesn't age faster than Videl
>>333144326
ya but what good is piccolo going to do for him?
Gohan surpasses Piccolo, so its not like it will do any good anymore, and Goku is a fucktard who wont do it.
So again, id like to see Gohan ask Vegita to secretly train him in a very harsh way.
Its all pointless now anyway, since Super Sayjin Red will be a thing, Yellow is a thing, Blue is a thing, and Green is a hinted thing!
They already mentioned SS White would be a thing if it didn't clash with somebody, so maybe it IS a thing.
>>333144224
You shouldn't care about what Toriyama says when he goes on his anti-Goku autism.
The guy doesn't even remember his own series, he constantly tried to repeat that Goku doesn't care about his family or that he's a dick but his own manga contradicts his statements. Hell even in Super(both manga and anime) Goku literally says he loves ChiChi and Toriyama years ago said that Goku considered his family more like "friends".
I mean just read any page about Goku caring for Gohan and that BTFOs the entirety of Toriyama's autism.
>yfw Vegeta ends up wishing back Planet Salad and the Saiyans back
>>333140262
the artist is Basara, aka Miracle Ponchi Matsuri.
Hope you like big round tits and thick hips and thighs.
>>333144542
>don't listen to the creator, blame senility
>the interview was made in 97
>>333144608
No, Vegeta actually said earlier in the series that The Saiyans(of his universe) were a despicable people and the universe is better off without them.
>>333144505
>ya but what good is piccolo going to do for him?
What Gohan needed was to strenghten his body so that it could keep up with his powerlevel, it wasn't really about him "losing" his ki but more like his body breaking when accessing that ki.
>So again, id like to see Gohan ask Vegita to secretly train him in a very harsh way.
This isn't going to happen, It would be nice but I doubt it. Gohan will train by himself, Goku and Vegeta could do it but they are training too. Gohan can of course join them and train with Whis.
>>333144542
I noticed this too, dunno if it's the translations being TOO literal or something but Toriyama seems to try to make Goku look bad whenever he can in his interview, but it's just retarded because he contradicts the manga itself where Goku while being an innocent dick is not the dick Toriyama says he is.
>>333144728
Can they wish them to get back without their evil nature? maybe the Super DB's can
>>333144692
>Blame senility
I never said that.
>The interview was made in 97
And? You do realize Toriyama forgot things about the manga as he was writing it right? It's not about not listening to him, it's about it going against the manga.
And as a recent example I told you about Goku loving ChiChi.
Fun thing, Toriyama forgot best girl was blonde and the anime team had to remind him.
>>333113151
I want to be able to customize my Ki colour. I want Green, Red, Yellow, Purple, etc. Just give us lots of colours to swap my Ki blast and aura colours.
Also I want to be able to make custom Supers. You choose the position of your character from a collection of pre-sets and your movements throughout the super (also pre-sets) then pick the shape of the blast (beam, ball, etc) and at the end you get to name the attack. You could also do custom power-up supers, in fact every super type can be made custom using pre-sets to allow us to make our character feel more original.
>>333144940
>>333144692
I'm kinda just butting in here, don't really know what you're talking about, but I saw "senility" and assumed Akira Toriyama, who has indeed always had a bad memory problem.
For example, he once forgot who Piccolo's name was and got Radditz and Yamcha mixed up in an interview.
>>333113151
>What do you want in Xenoverse 2, /v/?
Adult Chi Chi in her child armor
>>333144776
"At any rate, I wanted him to have the sense of being that rare guy who seeks only “to become stronger than before”, so much so that it feels like “there’s no one as pure as this person”. And while he does end up saving everyone as a result of that, he himself at least has a very pure sincerity about “wanting to become stronger”. What I wanted to depict the most was the sense that he might not be a good guy at all, although he does do good things as a result."
>>333144608
I don't care how they do it, if it happens it'll be a god send for full blooded, possibly tailed, saiyan waifus
>>333145217
Saiyans needed free flowing tails in XV
>>333138051
>it was made on short notice and animators didn't have time
TOEI loves to do this and rush things, Omega suffered because of that, at least in armor designs and the second season was literally out of nowhere and they changed the entire staff, at least the director and writers
And even when they delay it for years, and have a biweekly schedule they end up doing QUALITY in Crystal
>>333144940
you are fucking rediculous
you have no proof he was forgetting things when he was writing the manga. That's often a case of senility forgetting shit, but you make the case that he doesn't even know what he's talking about when the series was nearly just finished. Are you for real?
>>333145097 an interview that was 20 years later after the manga was done.
>>333145430
>you have no proof he was forgetting things when he was writing the manga
>What is launch
Do you know nothing of Toriyama? He himself admitted to forgetting things and his assistants would remind him.
>>333145430
>nearly just finished.
near finishing?*
>>333145430
He at least admitted that he forgot Launch, but seriously he even dropped actual powerlevels after frieza because it got ridiculous
That said he was like, the most popular man in Japan at the time, I wouldn't blame him for forgetting a thing or two druing those years
>>333145484
after 20 years the fucking manga was done. in that same interview he was scolded for it and he responded it's been 15 to 20 years since I wrote that manga.
>>333145410
What is this from?
Is Super better than GT yet?
>>333145430
Remember in the manga where Cell got his head blown off and then later regenerated and claimed he can regenerate as long as the core in his head is in tact?
>>333145601
>He forgot about launch 20 years after
Are you fucking retarded?
>>333145617
Saint Seiya Omega
>>333113151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK7dP-_llRU&feature=youtu.be
>>333145554
no he didnt
>>333145712
He said he can move the lump around his body, actually.
>>333145712
remember he can do that again from a single cell? remember he didn't know piccilo coukd regenerate?
>>333145719
are you? you are starting to sound like it
>>333145768
>raditz is basically a saibaman that did some extra pushups
>>333145217
Who is this semen demon
>people that still legit believe Super will end up worse than GT
Vegeta wishing this little nigga was his son instead of Trunks.
>>333141759
>"What about Gohan?"
> "What ABOUT Gohan?"
>>333145768
Powerlevels were never meant to be taken seriously though, that was the whole point of them being introduced.
>>333146129
Future trunks is the best character in Dragon Ball
>>333146001
Well in his defense, Goku's dad was basically the first SSJ that started the leyend and fear among Frieza's family so he has as much potential as Goku
>>333145768
Piccolo's fusion powerup was fucking bullshit, how did the fusion of those two creates a power over a million?
He basically became the one that coould solo the entire Freeza army and Saiyan race if he wouldn't let him transform
>>333146129
Vegeta really changed, encouraging people to surpass him, same time saying he won't stop training either.
>>333146058
Generic femsaiyan as far as I can tell
>>333146194
don't listen to screw attack, those idiots don't know their ass from their heads.
>>333145868
>remember he can do that again from a single cell?
Anime only.
>>333146215
which is why he was nerfed. now he's not strong enough to do real damage to some one who should be on parkers with him like frost.
H when?
I'm actually starting to like her slightly more than Super Bulma.
>>333146336
then what happened in the manga?
>>333145768
Yeah well the original supposed listing for SSJ4 Gogeta places him still like, 3 digits higher in number than even Beerus
power levels mean jack shit
>>333146393
Hair down when
she'd be sexy af
>>333146347
on par*
fucking auto correct
>>333146459
there is no listing for beerus or ssj4 what are you smoking? toriyama never made ssj4
>>333146479
>hair down
>on top riding
>mfw knowing she could flex her pussy muscle and destroy me at anytime so I gotta keep it long and strong till she cream
>>333146459
To be fair ss4 is utter bullshit, fusion is utter bullshit, so mix them together and it quite feasibly becomes elder god tier bullshit
>>333141759
Christ, how hard can it be to mimic Toriyama's art? That's terrible.
>>333146604
which sucks because ssj4 was one of the best transformations.
should've saved this scene for super cyan.
>>333146604
the point was he didn't forget as so much trolling would lead you to believe
>>333146736
or at least make that the god form. The saiyan god looks like a primal monkey oozaru mix.
>>333145768
>Chi chi actually has more power than some forms of Goku
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>333146721
koreans
>>333146818
>stronger than a kid
I'd hope so
>>333146275
>Screw attack
What?
I'm talking about the manga, the whole powerlevel thing was there just to show you that numbers are worth shit
>It's over 8000!!!
>This guy is garbage
>Oh his powerlevel is rising!
That was the whole point
>>333146459
Gogeta is not canon.
And Toriyama never gave Beerus any powerlevel at all, why are you pulling shit out your ass?
>>333146895
the whole point of the pic was to prove that akira didn't forget about powerlevels
>>333146887
A super powered nonhuman kid. Though I never read DB so I don't know how strong he was in those forget pics
>>333146991
Featured. Fuck you Swype
>>333146991check steam
>>333113151
Less grindy combat. Actually less grind in general.
>>333146991
goku was a low level warrior plus uou are comparing kid goku to a grown martial artist woman.
>>333146991
all them little shits could fight back then. even krillen was pretty good, and could give goku a challenge.
>>333113151
Budokai combat is all I need.
>>333146991
Eh he could easily blow a city I'd say.
>>333147123
>>333147193
Yeah, but I've only watched most of the cell saga, buu and GT. I'm just a filthy casual.
>This thread
>>333147264
>meme misuse
appropriate
>>333147251
>blow city
>kid goku
Kek. He didn't even know ki attacks.
>>333147354
>He didn't even know ki attacks
>I never read dragon ball
And punching, kicking, doesn't matter. Kid Goku was fucking strong even before fighting Piccolo Daimao.
>>333147456
>Kid Goku was fucking strong
Yamucha beat him.
Tao Pai Pai destroyed him.
>Wanting Super
Fuck no, it's terrible.
Even GT was better.
>>333147354
Goku learned kamehameha when he met Roshi.
![[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 27 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.37_[2016.04.04_04.55.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ei6Cb5G.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 27 [720p].mkv snapshot 02.37 [2016.04.04 04.55.02]")
Since we are here, what are you guys watching this season?
>>333147530
>Yamucha beat him
Because Goku was hungry and without energy, he beat the shit out of Yamcha after that.
>Tao Pai Pai destroyed him
And Tao Pai Pai was fucking strong, what are you saying next, he lost to Beerus so he's weak?
ChiChi is stronger than Oozaru Goku
>>333147264
>Australian power
>>333147580
You are wrong. He learned it at Ginyu mountain.
He replicated it, but it was nowhere near as powerful as Roshi.
HERE IS WHAT I WANT
>Deeper combat
>More what if stories
>Beam struggles and clashes
>Transformed states last longer but do not give unlimited use of super attacks. Just let it boost shit like attack and shit. If knocked down with 0 Ki, you get reverted to your previous form with a pretty big debuff
>NO SUPER ARMOUR
>GIVE FRIEZAS A MILLION FRONSFORMATIONS
>Dragon Ball heroes fanwank characters
As for beam struggles, I'd like it to be a decently long minigame where other team members can join in to help.
Also this should be in for the final boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBuJzywB-Ds
>>333147680
>ChiChi is stronger than Oozaru Goku
So, kid goku Oozara pathetic at fuck.
Roshi do not have any problems with it.
>>333147615
Finally going though A Certain Scientific Railgun with my hubby. At the part where the scientist becomes a baby thing or something. I signed up for Yuri and some action, not this child killing shit.
>>333147768
Roshi can literally blow the moon what is your fucking point?
>>333113926
>Did they forget that their BASE forms are on par with Beerus now?
What. No they fucking aren't
>>333147810
And goku can't at that time.
So why Chi-Chi can't be as powerful as him?
>>333147796
Railgun anime is mostly filler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xcdEN9WBNA
>>333147796
watch Valkyrie Drive then
>>333147880
Who said ChiChi can't? You're the retard saying that she can't be super powerful.
Just because he couldn't blow the moon at the time doesn't mean he was weak, like I said, Goku was easily city level.
>>333113926
>Did they forget that their BASE forms are on par with Beerus now?
They're nowhere fucking close to being on Beerus' level. Beerus was actually toying with Goku throughout the movie and he outright said his full power is still far greater than Goku's, even in God form.
>>333113926
SSGSSJ is a 7, Beerus is a 10 and Whis is a 15
>>333147957
Is it finished yet¿ I prefer to watch all at once.
>>333147920
Doesn't matter. I just wanna see Yuri.
>>333148064
Does your hubby know that you want to see yuri?
>>333144224
Sorry but I don't really trust anything Toriyama says desu
He is just a senile man who doesn't know his own creations
>>333147796
>Reading TAMNI or TAKNR and not expecting dark shit going on
Nigger you do realize Academy City is literally mad scientists: The City.
There's A LOT of gruesome shit going on, even more on the science side.
>>333148064
>Is it finished yet I prefer to watch all at once.
yes it aired recently, and fully uncensored so don't worry about BD's
Full Yuri and the reason why /a/ now allows posting lewds
>>333148064
I don't think you're watching the correct anime if you want Yuri pal
>>333114404
>>333118085
Vegeta and Goku both had the same training with Whis in base form.
Goku did not seem to be millions times stronger there.
Their base forms are equal.
![[Senketsu Subs] Valkyrie Drive - Mermaid - 05.mp4_snapshot_09.21_[2015.11.07_19.52.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lnf0I0m.jpg "[Senketsu Subs] Valkyrie Drive - Mermaid - 05.mp4 snapshot 09.21 [2015.11.07 19.52.15]")
>>333148064
You'll get your fill alright.
>>333148093
Yeah, we watch it together.
>>333148123
I just saw it on a Yuri list and downloaded. I like to watch stuff I never knew about.
>>333148152
Thanks, I'll dl before bed then.
>>333148232
Yeah, this guy is just there to take away the Yuri.
![[HorribleSubs] Digimon Adventure tri - 08 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.42_[2016.03.18_05.25.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5iD2Lgw.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Digimon Adventure tri - 08 [720p].mkv snapshot 16.42 [2016.03.18 05.25.07]")
>TOEI
>Not lazy as fuck
>>333144229
>Cabba and Gohan become students under Vegeta
Make it fucking happen
Gohan with training from the three best fighters aside from himself sounds great
>>333147920
Index season 3 when?
I really miss these series
>>333148384
Are you trying to imply something with that Lilymon?
>>333148481
They went asbolutely lazy with the MEGA and Ultra evolutions in there, that's all
![[HorribleSubs] Digimon Adventure tri - 08 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_18.12_[2016.03.11_18.58.21].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/E11wnjd.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Digimon Adventure tri - 08 [1080p].mkv snapshot 18.12 [2016.03.11 18.58.21]")
>>333148384
Tri is outsourced to a different company anyway. None of Toei's own animators work on it.
>>333148120
you are an idiot then
>>333148545
OK. Just using this as an excuse to post Lilymon.
>there is barely any Dragon Ball yuri
makes me sad
>>333147796
>>333148343
Fuck off back to >>>/u/ you fucking degenerate
>>333145768
That image is fake.
>>333145768
>Yajirobe is stronger than Chaozu
Didn't expect it.
I know Yajirobe is strong as fuck but he didn't even try in the training in preparation for the saiyans as opposed to Chaozu
>Shen is just 10 points stronger than Tao Pai Pai and Chichi is stronger than the Crane hermit
That sounds like bullshit
>>333120625
Like >>333121404 said, Vegito didn't job because his plan was to rescue everyone that was inside of Buu. What actually made me mad in that whole particulair part of the series is that Vegito is basically pointless and all he did was pointless because of fucking Goku:
>Vegito slaps Buu's shit so hard he has no choice but to absorb him
>Vegito's plan is to rescue everyone inside of Buu
>he gets seperated into Goku and Vegito again because of some reason
>Vegeta and Goku rescue everyone that's inside of Buu
>Buu blows up the earth
>Goku decides to bring fucking Dende and Mr Satan instead of the people he just fucking rescued.
>it was all for nothing
I suspect Toriyama needed a reason to stall Buu out long enough with Vegito and then another reason to get back to Goku and Vegeta again. Retarded part of the story
>>333148736
no its not
>>333148717
I literally only go to v and toy. I don't wanna go back to a place I've never been.
Going by the webbums, are these newer movies/episodes/whatever effectively about the older cast getting hit with the worf effect or something?
That doesn't fun to watch
>>333148748
Did they ever explain what the fuck is he?
He doesn't age, at all
>>333148864
English faggot.
>>333145768
I wouldn't believe any power level shit post Frieza saga, it just became way too inconsistent.
>>333148757
Yes, it is. How can you still be so out of the loop?
>>333149065
The manga actually stopped mentioning them after Frieza, the official powerlevels you see later were made by Toriyama ater the fanbase bothered him enough but had no real place in the story anymore
>>333148923
The Crane Hermit? Around as old as Roshi
They never gave a good explanation to Roshi or Baba being old as fuck either.
Roshi just once made a passing comment of drinking some life water and that is why he is old as shit and still alive but they never actually explained when this happened, how he came in contact with it or if Baba, the Crane Hermit and Tao Pai Pai ever had the same drink
>>333149094
>>333148757
It's not so much that it's fake, it's just that the Dragon Ball encyclopedia wasn't made by Toriyama, so in the end, all these numbers don't mean shit.
Given Dimps track record with Dragonball games, I'm really expecting Xenoverse 2 to be good and 3 to be fantastic.
All they have to do is deepen the combat, tell the RNG shit to fuck off and stop Super Saiyan Super Attack Super Spam
>>333149207
No I meant Chaotzu
>>333148864
>older cast getting hit with the worf effect or something?
it has been like this since forever
>>333149094
how much are you? from an encyclopedia
don't be a retard.
>>333139431
It being 5-years-old-cartoon-tier, breaking the whole purpose of every anime scene with non-fitting sound (not even music) and being extremely inferior to the original orchestra.
Faulconer is Mc.Donald's.
Original is a 5 Michellin Stars restaurant.
>>333149259
They never actually explain it
I know he is supposedly based on a Jiang Shi, which is a chinese vampire, but they never actually acknowledge anything in the series or even made a passing comment about him being an undead or anything like that.
I think we are supposed to believe that he is just a very strange human who will forever look like a child
>>333149227
>>333149495
Nope. That one is fake, buddy.
This episode was actually so good.
>>333149748
well yes, some times it's just a simple answer, he's based off of the Chinese vampire, but he's just a powerful psychic. Wish toriyama brought humans back into the power party. Tienshinhan and chiotsu comming back with all kinds of cuhrazee techniques.
>>333149896
you are the same stupid fuck from before, no one would listen to you anyways.
>>333150043
They were always pretty god tier among the humans, hell weren't they literally the only ones on earth to ninja dodge buu's aimbot lasers?
>>333150234
yeah just not the earth exploding
>>333150234
>weren't they literally the only ones on earth to ninja dodge buu's aimbot lasers
That's only in the anime. In the manga, Tien gets fucking owned by Buu's legs.
>>333150043
I always thought that the humans should have learned the Kaio Ken in order to be some sort of substitute for the super saiyan form for humans but only works in short bursts like it did for Goku
It would kinda help even the playing field and Goku just completely forgets about that technique after the Frieza saga anyway
>>333150368
Kaio-what?
>>333150409
Your references are not welcome here
>>333150851
FLEENSTONES
>>333150368
>Kaio Ken
They'd need to learn some kind of bullshit Kaio Ken x 1,000,000 to be able to keep up to where the saiyans are now, and I'm pretty sure that would destroy a human instantly if they tried it.
>>333148232
railgun is shit, this coming from someone that used to be one hell of a fan in 2011.
>>333150368
>>333150985
Man, the humans had a lot more potential than Goku in the beginning of the show.
>Goku trains for three years with Kami-Sama
>Gets his shit kicked in by Raditz
>Krillin and the gang train with Kami-Sama for one year
>They become a lot stronger than Raditz.
>Goku trains for one year with Kaio-Sama
>Gets his shit kicked in by Vegeta.
>Yamcha, Piccolo and Tien train for a couple of months with Kaio-Sama
>Yamcha and Tien are able to beat the Ginyu forces while Piccolo may've been as strong as Neil.
I mean, sure, it may've been filler them fighting the Ginyu forces, but it was hype as shit.
>>333151347
The Ginyu Force in Kaio Sama's planet was filler tho
Them becoming stronger than Raditz in one year was impressive tho
>>333151437
>The Ginyu Force in Kaio Sama's planet was filler tho
Yeah I know, but it was hype as shit.
>>333113847
Why are you on /v/ then?
>>333145768
>Chichi
>Stronger than a fucking Oozaru.
>>333138104
>That Webm
LT+RT+A would have allowed for an easy escape.
Stop pretending to be retarded.
>>333151636
Power Level logic is an atrocity. Kinnikuman invented it and abandoned it about half way in.
>>333151636
She was trained in the martial arts of master Roshi. You know who he is? The guy that, despite not training with Kami or Kaio, was able to fight a bunch of Freezer goons by himself?the fucker could probably beat Radditz and even Nappa, what the hell, Roshi?
>>333141759
>Goku's face while saying "That little shit"
>>333151793
I know who she is. But just do the maths
>Oozaru Goku KILLED Son Gohan
>Chichi is stronger than Oozaru Goku
That's nonsense.
>>333148123
I quite like Index/Railgun as a series. Crazy shit going on, Magic vs Science, fun characters. All great
Unfortunately I cannot stand Index as a character. She's horrid. I want to die whenever she's on-screen.
>gohan will never be relevant anymore
>>333151793
No he couldn't. even after the Raditz fight they clearly state that Krillin is already stronger than Roshi
Roshi beat soldiers because regular soldiers are scrubs who need blasters because they can't use Ki blasts.
What is insulting is that they brought Roshi but not Yamcha when Yamcha is already stronger than Roshi
I also agree with the other anon. Chichi was strong but in levels of other Martial Artists like Namu and stuff, not in the levels to beat Ozaru or the Crane Hermit for that matter
>>333136551
Because he saw Goku and Vegeta training with the training suit Whis gave them and thought "If those 2 are the strongest of this universe It will be a piece of cake".
Also he had:
>An invincible bear
>An almost invincible metal-mal
>A powerfull saiyan
>Hit, a guy that can win a SSBlue.
>>333151981
Index is horrid, yes, but Misaka is a tsundere, she has nothing going on for her.
Railgun tried to give her some cool backstory with the sister shit, but the day after touma saved her ass she immediately gets over her traumas.
What the hell.
>>333148232
hey i remember this guy
>>333152217
>An almost invincible metal-mal
his heart is the only thing that could be hurt.
>>333115868
Melee was such trash, fucking Dynasty Warriors mash 2 buttons shit.
Plus half the time the targeting wouldnt even work and you'd go off and attack all the air surrounding the enemy.
They really need to fix it.
>>333146215
>Goku's dad was basically the first SSJ that started the leyend and fear among Frieza's family so he has as much potential as Goku
>movies
>canon
>>333148232
>literally posting memecenter shit
>noone blinks an eye
Neo-/v/, everyone.
Man I have not kept up with Dragonball z, I have no fucking idea what is going on.
Why do they have blue hair? Last shit I watched was halfway into GT.
>>333152414
Eh, not a big fan of the relationship bullshit in general. I try to avoid it. Misaka's alright, nothing special. And most people in the show are remarkable resilient, true; Touma shows up and fixes shit and they go back to being perfectly fine. But I may prefer that than constant PTSD episodes paralyzing characters and draining screentime.
>>333114565
The goku vs beerus fight was fucking embarassing.
There are shitty throwaway stare down eps where goku and frieza did nothing but take cheap potshots and stare at each other during the namek saga that looks better then that.
And computer animated energy blasts that look like cheap trash that wouldn't even get a pass on a fucking mobile game is not a good thing.
>>333117289
Kek
>>333152556
They became Gods, got red hair, became non gods and absorbed the god Ki into themselves.
Red haired form is Super Saiyan God, Blue hair is Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan aka SSGSS aka Super Saiyan Blue.
>>333152683
When I was a fan of the show I always wanted a broken misaka. It didn't happen.
>>333152720
This is getting ridiculous.
>>333149227
Yeah, I mean popo is supposed to have a powerlevel in the millions but be a bit of a bitch nigga that doesn't like fighting.
>>333152720
So was the red form just a kind of transition thing? It seems like everyone just goes blue now.
I guess they wanted to trim all the saiyan forms to just "Super Saiyan" and "Blue Super Saiyan".
>>333115326
The saiyans stop aging completely until they are nearly 100 years old. Physically they should both be in their late twenties early thirties with only their facial hair changing.
>>333153459
yeah
>>333152876
With the god stuff they've basically gone into new game+ and are redoing the old power creep on a new tier
>ssg unlocks god ki
>this causes normal ssj to become god tier
>ssgss is basically ssj1, but god powered
>next we'll get ssgssgss
and so on
>>333153459
ssg requires a handholding power transfer from 5 other saiyans (those being in short supply nowadays) and lasts like 15 minutes, but goku and veggies are super special and "learn" from the experience, buffing their stock ssj forms and letting them access god ki, which they then use to go blue
>>333114791
The grain helps. That actually looks REALLY good.
>>333135694
>saiyan ass
>>333153459
>"Super Saiyan" and "Blue Super Saiyan"
I hadn't thought of this before, but how to they get across the difference in the manga?
>>333154056
Super Saiyan is white hair, Blue is gray.
>>333153998
>properly tailed saiyan ass
Inv4 earth goes to new universe to reboot stuff, then when shit seems like some high stakes, gohan get white hair from super sayian nerd
>>333154898
>all his scholarly studying causes him to uncover an ancient ki ritual that reacts with ssj and mystic to allow him to surpass super saiyan purple drank or whatever they're up to
fund it
>>333149259
He's a pokemon.
>>333155304
Pokémon age.
![SSGSS_GOKU[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/om39mrp.jpg "SSGSS GOKU[1]")
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