This demo was such a mistake. The fucking framerate is worse than Episode Duscae. All this "tech demo" showcased is how unfinished the game is.
The combat is alright, but could be a lot better. The input delay is really bad. To showcase the aerial combat, they should've had a big mech enemy and not the Iron Giant. Shuriken are pretty much useless, and so is the shield except for maybe stunblocking.
Again, this demo is a rushed mistake and was completely pointless.
from Squenix:
>>demo wasn’t to show off the framerate but for fans to experience a part of Final Fantasy XV‘s world. The team focused on resolution first.
haven't even played it though, not gonna buy a PS4 for one game
>>333034193
> Shuriken are pretty much useless
shuriken is hilariously overpowred, shuriken warp on the iron giant staggers him for 10 seconds
>and so is the shield except for maybe stunblocking.
So the shield can block and parry stun, it's a fucking shield what the fuck did you expect it to do? make explosions? it even has a ranged attack where you can throw the shield.
>All this "tech demo" showcased is how unfinished the game is.
It's only 3,5gb, thats like, 500mb less than a ps2 game. All this tech demo showed was that it was unoptimized and Se didn't give a single fuck about it.
>the input delay is really bad
bullshit
> this demo is a rushed
Agreed and i am glad it's rushed, they should focus on the main game not on demos.
>>333034193
I agree.
Also the 2013 trailer looked better. The tech demo footage from 2014 looked better, and I don't mean from a gfx standpoint. I mean gameplay wise.
Look:
2013: https://youtu.be/WEKNUCjcrMY?t=3m43s
2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrUN3MWpNE
What happened to all the flashy movement animations?
Why does the gameplay in that same area as the PD demo looks so much more controllable?
Why do I see warp cancels in the 2013 trailer on that midair greatsword attack and not in the PD demo?
What the fuck have the been doing?
>>333034502
>dynamic resolution is a focus
lol
>Make a demo to show off your fancy tech.
>It's not even that impressive.
>It also runs like fucking shit.
Fucking BRAVO Square.
>>333034537
>>the input delay is really bad
>bullshit
It is not. Not that guy but a lot of people are complaining about it. There's a disconnect between when you press the button and when that action happens.
>>333034539
nomura isn't on their team anymore
>we focused on the resolution instead of the framerate
top lel
sony drm boxes, where it can either have good framerate and look like ass, or it can run like ass but at least it looks okay!
>>333034502
That's absolutely shit damage control.
Framerate even in that first corridor was awful, but the most niticable thing immediately was that it's ugly. It looks like a fucking shoddy vita port or something. I actually quit after climbing the table and deleted it. An actual embarrassment of a game. The had better release a real, fixed demo later on.
>>333034537
The shield is useless because you can just hold square to dodge.
>>333034193
I was really underwhelmed by the combat. KH has better combat, even though it sucks.
I must be dong something wrong, how does everyone have fun with it?
>>333034775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KT3_xb7dLA
looks fun to me
>>333034539
Tabata happened
He literally only made mediocre games with mediocre gameplay
>>333034193
>this demo is a rushed mistake and was completely pointless.
Agreed. They should've waited to do a proper full team combat demo. Apparently that's still coming according to Tabata. This demo didn't kill my hype, it just confused me as to why it needed to exist. Carbuncle a cute though.
>>333034881
That's the thing, it looks alright when you look at it, but it's not really that fun to do it
Aeiral combos will be usefull against flying enemies though
>>333034916
>This demo didn't kill my hype, it just confused me as to why it needed to exist
To gauge fan reaction to the controls.
>>333034775git gud
>>333035124
That's what Episode Duscae was for.
How many times are they gonna gauge shit, there's 5 months left.
>>333035136
>someone posted my webm.
I found more tech. Trying to get some good webms now. Not sure if I want to post one of them because I don't want them to fix the bug.
>>333035172
Not regarding the air combat.
>dynamic resolution
I hope they learn this is a mistake and they take the feedback from the demo in general seriously, this could push them into the right direction for fixing these issues before release, but I feel like the squeenix apologists will just ruin this possibility by blindly defending something with technically issues because of muh saviour of final fantasy
I'm looking forward to the game, but they need to fix the issues, I'm not such a stickler for its combat as much as I am for them making the game playable, though.
>>333035136
It's not about gitting gud, it's not hard to do all that
The demo did a bad job in performance and giving you options to try out shit
Sure you can fight the big giant and do aerial combos over and over again, but why is there no plate to spawn your party and 10 enemies for example?
And why does it run like shit while Duscae runs a little better while having a huge area will grass, tons of enemies and your party?
I agree with everything you're saying OP, but I love fighting the Iron Giant while being able to control the time and weather. Newcomers might feel differently though.
>>333034193
>This demo was such a mistake
Completely agree.
After such a great showcase of the game during the event, releasing this piece of shit killed my hype so fucking much.
And also what this >>333034537 anon said.
RIP FFXV
>>333035204
post your webms mate, the way you play makes the game look fun as fuck
>>333035204
>Not regarding the air combat.
They're not going to be able to overhaul it in 5 months.
>>333035356
Woops, not this >>333034537 anon but this >>333034539
>>333035356
>>333035419
nobody cares
>>333035449
You cared enough to reply.
>>333035136
>>333035248
This
Also you start out with a full MP bar and end up with stasis, by spamming your aerial dodges
They will have their uses in the full game, but normal combos and the shield will just as useful
The demo is just wrong, it does not give you enough to try out all of th combat and the tech and framerate is not impressive either when Duscae ran better and had more shit going on
>>333035224
Have you seen the official forum of the game? Everyone's bashing the combat in the demo to no end.
If anything, the game's fanboys want it to be good.
>>333035449
>n-nobody cares if you don't post a webm of useless air combo
>>333035248
>And why does it run like shit while Duscae runs a little better while having a huge area will grass, tons of enemies and your party?
filesize - new engine build (2.0)
>>333035578
That's not a reason you idiot, why does their engine run worse now even in a literal fucking hallway
>>333035619
Because Luminous 2 requires much more power than the old build you dipshit. Luminous 2 kills CPUs.
>>333035619
It doesn't run worse desu
If anything, the actual framerate is miles better than in Duscae https://youtu.be/P2iYHdFFhXk
The issue is with the framepacing
>>333035673
Why though?
The game doesn't look any better, they didn't add anything and why would they make their engine even worse for consoles, for a fucking ARPG
Tabata is a fucking hack
>>333035308
I love it too, I just think normies won't understand.
>>333035714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YECC8u0nPO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o
They're both pretty bad as far as framerate goes, but the new demo has frametiming so bad it's sad while you just fight against one big enemy in a big empty room
I played it just now. I haven't ever played any other final fantasy because I'm not a big fan of the combat of the previous games. Just not my cup of tea. But this one looked interesting.
The movement felt pretty good. From all what I heard I thought it'd control like Witcher 3. Felt really good to move the character around. Framerate is terrible, but anyone can see that. And I hate how you can just hold down the attack button to auto do everything. But I'm glad that's not a viable "strategy" against big enemies. Also the dodge roll feels so goddamn unresponsive. I want it to be instant, and be able to do it in the middle of a combo. Just make the dodge better, man.
It was an alright demo. I hope the final game plays a bit better.
This game has been in development for 10 YEARS.
It's not gonna be good.
I wish Nomura would've been the cirector until the end, i don't care if it would've taken 5 more years
>>333035882
It hasn't though.
It was on hold until 2012 because of Lightning Trilogy and XIV
>>333035374
They could. It's easy:
>Bind air dashes to the dodge button instead of automatically shitting them out when you attack.
>Bring back the heavy attack button like in duscae, and combine it with forward and backward directional inputs, which of course also change depending on the weapon equipped.
>Make dodging, blocking, dashing, warping, cancel attacks, even if you're not triggering a QTE defense moment, just like in the 2013 trailer.
>make only 1 attack per button press come out. This way the player will feel more in control.
>make the targetting system prioritize where you hold the stick to when attacking, so the player is always in control of the direction of every hit in a combo, as well as in the air. Target lock will function as it does now and always aim at the targetted enemy.
>Make the dodging always work if you're in the i-frames of a dodge roll. Rigth now the dodge does not register if you let go of the dodge button before the attack hits but are still in the roll.
>Fix the input lag
>make it so you can move quicker after your last attack.
>add more weapon slots but double tapping a direction ( i think they're already going to do something like this since noctis has 5 weapons floating around him in armiger modo.
>add a mid air jump with full directional control
These are fixes that could be done within a week with a few programmers.
>>333035359
Got one webm which shows 3 things;
6 air dashes without attacking
doing a greatsword air attack without dropping to the ground
secret tech that allows you to ignore an enemy's hit.
>>333035497
>Also you start out with a full MP bar and end up with stasis, by spamming your aerial dodges
yeah it's an rpg mate, you will have tons more mp by the end of the game.
>>333034775
>even though it sucks
Go fuck yourself, casual. Play Call of Duty or something.
>>333034537
>>the input delay is really bad
>bullshit
Everything else you said is at least partially true so why would you include a blatant lie?
The reaction time for the dodges is abysmal and I hope they fix it in the full release
>>333036240
Hold the dodge button instead of tapping it. ALso you do need to be a bit early, but if you hold it throughout the whole thing it should work more consistently. Fucked me up a lot at first.
>>333036219
nigga email tabata
>>333036234
Wow, so that's your argument?
You'll just grind to lvl 99 and keep spamming useless aerial dodges until you're stunned?
What if you have to fight 4 of them at once?
>>333036238
Kh is Mashing Attack The Game, it gets boring quick.
Ive never played call of duty, is it good?
>>333036329
As if they'd actually do it right
It took them multiple years and a demo and multiple fan feedbacks to make a combat system that still has flaws
Tabatais the biggest hack out there, that never made a good game lt alone combat system
>>333036329
Get me his e-mail address or another way to get into contact with him and I will.
I've always wanted to be a video game advisor.
>>333034502
thats means pretty much graphical downgrade inbound with the full release and I bet it still won't be able to maintain stable 30fps because they don't want it to look like shit
>>333036385
That's because you're stupid and play on beginner mode.
>>333036385
FFXV is hold O the game
You can do more advanced stuff in both games
>>333036291
>ALso you do need to be a bit early
And that's exactly the problem
>>333036438
KH doesn't exactly have large movesets and you can only have 1 ground and 1 air combo on you without going into a menu
>>333036219
I think the double tapping isn't a great idea
I'd like a second dpad selction that appears then you hold r1 or l2 or whatever button is free in the final game
Almost like the quick selection menu in KH
That way you can have 8 weapons or 6 weapons and 2 spells etc.
>>333036219
>Got one webm which shows 3 things;
post it please, or at least explain how to air dash without attacking.
I also saw a vid of someone using knightsguard but it doesn't work with the same button as it did in ED so if you know about that too it would be great.
>>333036581
Actually in combination with square you can do up to 4 air combos, but yeah KHs comlexity comes from the different abilites and growth abilites instead of complex controls
>>333036468
I thought at least you would get different moves with directional inputs, and please let me turn off the autorun to the nearest enemy
>>333036758
The autorun is bullshit, the softlock lasts forever you can be at the other side of the area and the softlock is still on
>>333036538
I don't feel that it's unfair. Sometimes it doesn't seem to register if you're doing an attack but mostly I think it works reasonably. But, it could be better, yes.
>>333036628
I think those buttons will be reserved for other things, so the only thing that's left is a double tap system. Or I dunno, maybe it could still work if R2 is your spell menu with spells on the face buttons, but then it also triggers a second set of weapons on the d-pad. Either way is fine.
>>333036645
It's in the post you're mentioning.
If you hold attack in the air, with either air sword or shuriken, you can press the stick forward, backward, forward, backward, or backward forward backward forward. For some reason it's possible to do multiple air dashes that way. I've done side dashes in between as well but i'm still not sure how to trigger them. It sometimes accidentally happens.
In that webm, after doing 4 airdashes I switch to the firemagic, and press warp to do another air dash away, and being at a distance triggers another airdash when attacking again.
Greatsword air attacks can be done without falling to the ground if you do a forward airdash with the airsword, and then do the greatsword air attack during it. For some reason this affects your vertical movement and allows the animation to finish before you start falling. after that switch back to airsword and do a backward air dash by pressing atk+back.
The secret tech is ugh, fuck it, they'll probably fix it anyway since it's obvious.
Do a greatsword attack, wait for noctis to do his auto backstep and then press and hold attack. He will go into his charging animation with the blue particles. If you switch to the firemagic while still holding the button his greatsword will disappear, but he will remain in stance. If you switch to another weapon, like airsword, noctis will do the sword twirl, and if you're hit during that you won't get blown back. It's in that webm at the end, but I just did it really fast.
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/platinum-demo-is-a-poor-entry-into-the-world-of-final-fantasy-xv
>muh Tokyo Team is so much better than Osaka Team
>this is the best Tokyo Team can come up with
And I bet you faggots are going to blame Tabata as if he's the one writing each individual line of code, kek.
>>333036757
>Actually in combination with square you can do up to 4 air combos
You mean cancelling an aircombo with a glide and starting it again? That's more like a combo reset, but it doesn't give different attacks.
macro carbuncle porn when
>>333036409
wait did people not like Type-0? people was raving about it when it came out five years ago
>>333034193
Stay mad PKEK keep on shitposting. Already logged in close to 9 hours.
>TFW Platinum Demo is becoming my go-to comfy game
>>333037137
He's a shitposter.
>>333036219
Air dodges are fine at all, but i think as soon as you enter aerial combat Noctis should have a slight float after that last hit of a combo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQ2C978xVc
Skip to 1:03 and see how Noctis floats so you can quickly look around or reenter a combo
The air combat works fine for now, but with multiple airborne enemies a float like that would work wonders to stay in the air and lock on the the next target
>>333036758
>three wolves on screen
>two directly in front of you and one in the back
>start attacking while holding the analog towards the closest one
>the soft lock was on the one in the back, so the kid flies towards it for a second then starts flailing in the air as he slowly approaches the wolf
>didn't meant to do that, so you let go of the auto-attack button
>Kid stops the attack, does a slow animation to stop it, then loses all forward momentum
>gets hit from behind by one of the other wolves he flew past
Worst part is that ED felt exactly like this. You are always wresting with the controls of Noctis
>>333036645
Knightsguard happens automatically when you enter armiger modo and attack right? I don't know what else you would mean.
>>333037190
>have to do all the kid section with the shit combat and tedious coinllecting every time
fuck you square I just want to fight
>>333037113
No, you had different attacks and combos with square if you equip them as a abilites, they were also counter like retaliating slash
>>333037137
Because it was a jap only PSP exclusive
>>333037230
I agree. I really like all those different animations, and states that he moves between.
I really don't get it. Why remove all that? Why change what is already fucking amazing?
>>333037194
I never played it, what's so great about it?
I actually thought that Crisis Core and 3rd Birthday, both made by Tabata as far as i know, are mediocre
>>333037359
yes and PSP piracy was rampant
>>333037298
Which KH game is that? Because I cannot remember.
>>333037410
Both show signs of being too stiff. Nothing cancels.
>>333037235
I never had that problem in ED or PD.
Maybe it's a case of git gud?
>>333037453
Kingdom Hearts 2 had tons of those abilites and i think KH1 had at least 2 counter abilites
http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Abilities_(Kingdom_Hearts_II)
>>333037535
well aren't you special
>>333037554
Yeah you had rolls and a timed block ability. I really liked those. But attack combos?
>>333037396
I don't know, it's even weirder if you consider that most of Team Tokyo, who also worked on KH2, work on this game
Did they just forget how to make proper balancing and combat?
>>333037453
You could do horizontal air slashes in KH2
>>333037235
Agreed. Most of the gameplay is trying to get his movements under control. Players should only experience such movement when they are ready for it. Which comes from doing the correct inputs.
>>333037578
Why?
Because I'm not a retard and understand the combat system?
>>333037086
This article is very true. What the fuck were they thinking with this demo?
>>333037687
I understand the combat system and I agree with him. The targetting system does not work as it should. It also sucks you into enemies which removes the element of good positioning to get an attack to hit.
>>333037235
he sort of auto dash attacks whoever the soft lock is on - it's pretty annoying actually
they were going for something like this web, and failed miserably
>>333037751
In Duscae it's all a matter of picking a good weapon for your combo starter and using warp when you know you're not in attack distance. In Platinum it's literally git fucking gud because there's only one enemy in the whole damn thing
>>333037795
I don't want them to just copy Kingdom Hearts 2, but i mist say the lock on system in KH2 was perfect
I don't get how the same team that worked on KH2 has so many problems with this game
Maybe Tabata has bad ideas
>>333034193
Not even part of the game. I had no frame issues. Meant to show off weather time of day and physics
I've watched reaction videos to ED/ED2.0 and PD.
Majority of people loved ED, and the ones who bothered for get 2.0 also liked it but people complained about the over-emphasis of QTEs.
Majority of people who played PD were left disappointed. Most of them were obvious holding the buttons down the entire time. Only a very few people found the hidden weapons and tried aerial combat. Most people were left disappointed and confused.
>>333037902
It's not about git gud. It's about having control over things that you should have control over. About the game not responding to your inputs because it's doing something it decided upon by itself. Sure you get used to that after a while but it's still lame.
>>333037751
I agree that the auto-running could be seen as being sucked into the enemy but i personally liked it and never attacked something I didn't want to attack
There's something about the combat I just don't understand on a fundamental level. I've played almost ten hours of FFXV between this and ED and I STILL feel like I only have a very shallow idea of what I'm doing.
>>333037935
>Maybe Tabata has bad ideas
Literally this.
It all went to shit as soon as he introduced the whole "hold attack button for repeated attacks" concept.
>>333037940
>I had no frame issues.
Spotted the bullshitter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YECC8u0nPO8
>>333037902
You don't even have to git gud, the aerial combos and doges are not hard to do.
But the demo should've offered other things than one big enemy
Why not have two other plates, ones spawns goblins and the other one spawns airborne enemies
They put no effort into the demo
>>333037980
It's not the auto running I'm talking about. I never even noticed it since I mostly don't touch the target lock button. I mean that when you attack noctis slides forward. How much he slides forward is dependant on how far the enemy is away from you, making it so your attacks always hit, which is done for casuals.
>>333037993
maybe it's the game not you anon
>Carbunlce talks to you via a mobile phone
>>333037993
Yeah you really need to analyze. Try doing very basic things until you get a feel for how it responds, and when it does what. Because everything is so automatic most people skip over that step.
>>333038098
>inb4 carbuncle app
>>333038098
>he uses FF-themed emotes
>>333034916
It actually isn't, he just said in a Japanese interview that they don't plan another demo or an update to this, but that the game will be playable at E3 and other events.
>>333038056
That problem sounds like he is just to retarded to learn the mechanics.
Yes the combat has flaws but "not getting it" doesn't really seem like the games fault.
>>333038037
I don't know what you mean then.
Do you mean how he slides during the attack animations with the sword? Because a bit of that is natural with how he swings ot
>>333038098
>moshi moshi
>>333038196
>he just said in a Japanese interview that they don't plan another demo
Source on this? This seems like suicide to make the last demo this wreck.
>>333038196
So most fans won't get to play it until the release?
If they are working on something for E3 couldn't they just release that as a demo?
>>333038267
The should at least release ED 2.0, holy shit.
If this is the last impression they leave on people, they're fucked.
>>333038196
Do they really think this mess will sell people on the game?
>>333037617
lyl, maybe it'll be fixed if they make an FM version
The demo was just bad
Yes, you can fight the giant over and over again, do air combo, use the shield etc. but overall the demo didn't do a good job in both presenting the performance and combat since you can only fight one enemy with no variety at all
>>333038203
Yes I mean how he slides when doing attack animations. A bit of that is allright, but the problem is that he slides too far for the motion to make sense, and that the slide distance varies depending on how far an enemy is. If you're not going to be in range to hit an enemy, that normally requires you to walk toward it and then hit the attack you want. Now it just pulls you in.
>>333038327
Yes. It's FF they don't have to do much.
>>333037993
What is it exactly you don't understand?
I consider myself pretty good at the game's systems but I still think that both demos are shit.
>>333038327
yeah.
The demo asks you if you want to buy the game, remember? That was a laugh and a half.
>>333038361
Ah ok.
I actually agree that it is exaggerated but I don't mind it all that much because the game has worse problems at the moment
>>333038382
People who like FF would get the game anyway, this demo would not be appealing to newcomers, it will leave them confused more than anything.
>>333038325
>If this is the last impression they leave on people, they're fucked.
This x1000.
>>333038462
It has.
>>333037958
>Most people were left disappointed and confused.
And they don't plant on releasing another demo. Bravo.
I don't know why they'd release ED.20, because that battle system has been scrapped.
will there ever be a JRPG with good hack and slash action game level combat?
basically DMC JRPG
This game needs a Final Mix + + release
>>333038634
KHIIFM is very close to that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkne5NfPwQ
>>333038634
>>333038634
Probably no. No one understands how good action games work on a technical level or understands why it's important to make it that good.
>>333038634
No, since it has to be a balance between RPG elements and action elements, DMC or Bayo depths of gameplay would just make stats useless unless you'd doo 0 damage without grinding
The closest thing something will ever come to this is KH2FM
>>333038472
>People who like FF would get the game anyway
I like FF, and I was mildly interested in this game. Played the demo and I've lost all interest. Might buy it from a bargain bin.
>>333034550
Oh, please no. That shit ruined Halo 5 for me (among other things).
>>333038702
No this is just combat again, with unlocking skills etc.
Even the first Nier was more of 3rd person action game than an RPG
>>333038702
it is going to be fucking glorious
Huh, I was only slightly interested before, but this demo got me hyped.
>>333038702
gave me a MGR vibe from the trailer
which is to say okay I guess
>>333038789
I can't wait.
Why is there a delay on shuriken warp? like it looks like it's broken when you do it.
>tfw for the longest time wondered why I couldn't use warp points and it was because of greatsword or shield
>>333038702
someone post that horrendous dodge animation for this game
>>333038859
ahaha thank
>>333038861
I'd like for the warp to always work
Overall the 2013 trailer had lots of things that the demo and maybe final release is missing
Especially in therms of air combat
The demo was so obviously meant to entice KH fans.
>>333034193
let it go witcher cucks
>>333038943
I'm a huge KH fan and i must say this is far from Kingdom Hearts
In both good and bad ways
>>333034558
I'm really not sure what the purpose of this demo was. If it was to show off their tech, it failed miserably.
>Me: "Everything looks blurry, and jagged, and am I even getting 30fps?"
>SE: "Forget about that, step on this plate. WHOOOA, now it's nighttime! WHOOOOA, now it's raining! Bet you've never seen that in a game before!"
>>333034502
i like how every ps4 exclusive game is ''one'' game
even though it has like 20 exclusives
>>333038943
As a big KH2 fan I can tell you and the demo to fuck the hell off.
It doesn't come anywhere near to how tight and responsive KH2 is.
Or how Versus XIII could've turned out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7MwTXYLpg
>you'll never play a game with FFV job system again
Why live?
>>333039021
>SE: It wasn't supposed to showcase good framerate and good frametiming which is one of the most important things for an ARPG
>>333034558
As someone who enjoyed the demo for the most part I've going with this.
What the fuck was the point?
>>333039056
the only one that matters is bloodborne though
>>333039082
Just play Bravely D and Bravely S and FF 4HoL
>>333038634
No because then it wouldn't be a JRPG anymore. The level of effort it would take would be too much to stay "true" to the genre. Most JRPGs (and RPGs in general) are fairly lengthy "experiences" that focus on style over depth, they never put a ridiculous amount of effort into the core mechanics. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just a different style. DMC and Bayonetta wouldn't work if they were the length of an average JRPG.
>>333038679
I love Kingdom Hearts, but it's really not. That video doesn't help either, most of it focuses on the over-the-top scripted sequences. Very flashy, but relatively shallow.
>>333039165
I don't have a 3DS
>show environmental trailer with beautiful CGI locales
>release this demo hours later
>it looks NOWHERE NEAR as good as the trailer
I've seen some reactions and this demo disappointed a LOT of people.
>>333039205
Dragon's Dogma was pretty cool though
SquareEnix still in charge of making the worst decisions.
>>333039205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gheqi_LAPf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M_lcWqm8HE
How about these?
KH2FM isn't the most complex game when it comes to controls, but it has the most perfect boss balance ever and you're always in full control
>>333039297
DD's story was incredibly short
>>333039268
No shit.
Seriously, I have a constant love-hate relationship with Tabata and this game.
They do one right thing and then follow it up with a step in a pile of shit.
At this point less and less people believe this game will be any good and worth the wait.
At least my hype died before the release so I won't be that dissappointed.
I just wanted to practice the attacks on a dummy before I fight the boss.
Remove Tabata, he has no idea how to make combat feel good.
>>333039205
why though? why can't there be a 50 hour DMC with exploration, sidequests and all that good stuff?
>>333039268
>I've seen some reactions and this demo disappointed a LOT of people
Most people are like wtf that's it? What was the point of that?
>>333039552
but Type-0 combat was fun
Alright, let's try to say some good things about the demo for a change.
- The lesser enemies even as kid Noctis finally respond to hits and stagger in a more satisfactory manner.
- The crystal-like effect when activating Armiger and change weapons is actually pretty good.
- You can sort of re-create the moments from the original E3 2013 moments
Aaand that's about all I have good to say about it.
>>333039128
no there are way more
its just your poor pleb vision that it doesn't let you see them
>>333039570
Maybe with a billion dollar budget and a development cycle of ten years, directed by Kamiya (who has ascended to godhood and developed omnipotence and omniscience). Anything less and it will be full of padding, boring, and lacking in many areas.
>>333039625
wait until red light to attack
>fun
>>333039625
..said noone ever.
It's one of the most shallow piece of shit arpgs I played in my life. Even Crisis Core wasn't such a shit game gamepay-wise
>>333039654
name me 5 good ones
>>333039627
There really isn't much positive about it. I don't hate it, I just don't understand it.
>>333039654
then please, name them for us plebs.
>>333039625
It's horrible. I bought it with the FFXV demo and sold it immediately the day after. Protip: i'm actually good at game mechanics, and know what the fuck I'm talking about.
>>333039625
If you say so, I played about an hour of it because it came with episode Duscae and it didn't feel good at all.
>>333039552
He also makes shit jokes.
>it's air button
>>333039627
Carbuncle was cute.
>>333038170
I want those emotes
>>333039695
it's not like everything has killsights
>>333039627
It's free
>>333038196
>he just said in a Japanese interview that they don't plan another demo or an update to this
Still waiting for that source. I just can't believe this is the first and last impression they want to leave the general public who haven't played ED.
>>333039750
>>333039768
>The Last Guardian, SCE Japan(Shadow of the Colossus, Ico), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLZvsSmBIs [Embed]
>Ratchet & Clank, Insomniac Games(Spyro, Ratchet & Clank), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJEa6TnA824 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ficYa6-U54 [Embed]
>Ace Combat 7, Bandai Namco, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk [Embed]
>WiLD, From the creators of Rayman Legends, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZwCLfTvmXo [Embed]
>Horizon: Zero Dawn, Guerilla Games(Killzone), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvI5AHu5Xao [Embed]
>Rime, Tequila Works(Deadlight), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bQyvNr2NQY [Embed]
>Gran Turismo Sport, Sony Computer Entertainment ,PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h-Kycm8Jxo [Embed]
>Detroit: Become Human, Quantic Dream, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pelrr__9qx8 [Embed]
>Persona 5, Atlus, PS4+PS3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSi_YD5-Ypw
>Nier: Automata, Square Enix, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARHVKZ5K1b0
>Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom, Level 5, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkY9a7DQUE
>Megadimension Neptunia VII, Compile Heart, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMCuCPeRpCw
>Fat Princess Adventures, Santa Monica Studios, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kto-gfUr9IM
>Dreams, Media Molecule(LittleBigPlanet), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNSH1vKOK9o
>NIOH, Team Ninja(Dead or Alive, Ninja Gaiden, Metroid: Other M, Hyrule Warriors), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOuY0SZ3mOw
>Gravity Rush 2, Project Siren(Siren), PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi1kTqC1wqA
>Yakuza 6, Sega, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAA737SqFg
>Deep Down, Capcom, PS4 Exclusive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07S6rFgOSdg
>>333039808
>because it came with episode Duscae
Did you really buy the game just for a demo of something else?
>>333040117
I said good ones
and all of those aren't even out
>>333040140
Majority of people did. Do you really think anyone would buy a fucking Vita port for any other reason?
>>333040252
they are good ones
and they are goona be out in a few mounths
>>333040140
Happened with ZoE.
>>333040140
I bought it for the demo and the game because most people said it was good, but i guess they only said so because it was a japanese only psp exclusive, the story is mediocre, the characters are mediocre, the combat is mediocre
>>333040140
Not him, but I did.
I was hell of excited for FFXV since Versus.
I can't say it was a mistake, but I was let down, that's for sure.
Now my hype is simply dead.
I'm actually more hype for the movie than the game at this point.
>>333040252
yakuza ishin. It's jp only but it's really good.
>>333040252
>copypasted reply
nice
>>333040319
Idiots bought ZOEHD for the demo, i bought it for high speed robot action
>>333040341
That's a cross-gen.
>>333040337
Sometimes i wonder how much of V13 is actually left in the game, the darker tone, the rivalry etc.
Because the movie looks a lot closer to V13
>>333040376
I meant the first game. But yeah it applies to ZoEHD too.
>>333040305
if they're not out then how does anyone know they're good?
>>333040341
yeah that's pretty fun, too bad sega won't localise it. seems like anyone with a gun and sword is fun as hell.
>>333040253
PSP
>>333040252
Bloodborne
Disgaea 5
EDF 4.1
Gravity Rush
Nepneps
Yakuza
This demo killed hype for a lot of people.
People were hype as shit after the event, then they played this absolute mess.
What were they THINKING?
>>333040252
Crunchyroll
>>333040471
>Nepneps
wew lad
>>333040490
I can relate to that. Framerate was a big turn off in the duscae demo for me and then this new demo just killed my entire hype for the game.
Probably will still buy it though but some time after the release in a sale.
>>333040490
This
The combat works fine and you can do some nice things, but there's only one big enemy to test some things out on and you don't even have your party
And in terms of performance it's horrible
They put absolutely no effort into this
>>333040594
>They put absolutely no effort into this
That's what a lot of people have been saying.
They should've saved the time and money from working on the anime and should've worked on optimizing their game
>>333040551
This one is actually good.
>>333040337
because you can only watch it?
could be amazing if you could play ffxv on your toaster huh?
>>333040750
the anime would've been cheap
you want pointless look at the car and movie
>>333040780
Because it will at least be dark in tone, and above 30 fps.
>>333040839
The car is over the top and it's not even for sale
Tabata has to get his priorities straight
He probably wants to distract attention from the game
>>333040923
The car interestingly enough left me feeling the same way as the demo.
For what purpose?
>>333040896
this could be the most pathetic post i have seen in /v/
immidiately resorting to framerate damage control even with a movie
OKAY serious question
What are the chances that they are listening to player feedback on the Platinum Demo? It seems like the general consensus around the internet is that it isn't especially good (to put it mildly), but do you think they can/will change it before release? They don't have a lot of time left
>>333041041
they could always delay the game
>>333041041
That's what interests me the most, too.
I bet they carefully observe all the feedback now that all the public has access to the demo.
And I bet they're not happy at all.
Gonna wait until the next ATR, whenever that's going to be.
>>333040923
People are claiming Audi would've paid SE for product placement.
>>333041032
I don't understand your point. The framerate in this demo is absolutely unbearable. Before you try starting from platform bullshit, I have a gaming PC and PS4.
Releasing a tech demo to show off how optimized your tech demo is mental retardation.
>>333040923
I was for sure they were going to give the car away in a contest, or give it to a charity or something. I'm honest-to-god not sure what the point was of them saying "We built a the car in this movie for real, and it's one of a kind. No, you can't buy it, we just wanted to show it to you a video of it".
>>333041112
Not after the Uncovered event.
I mean, the whole gimmick of it was to announce the dateif Gamespot and leakers wouldn't do that instead
>>333041150
>Releasing a tech demo to show off how optimized your tech demo is mental retardation.
Meant to say UN-OPTIMIZED..
>>333041041
They can't fix the framerate and probably they can change something on combat, but I'm not expecting a full rework.
Basically I think the fps is gonna be really shitty and the combat gonna be a little better. Let's hope the story is really good because the game is damned otherwise.
>>333041041
They took on fan feedback with Duscae so I'm sure they're paying attention to people's reactions.
>>333041112
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojfg_RSThrc
Imagine the shitstorm if they actually delayed it after this
>>333041112
>they could always delay the game
That would literally be the end of them.
>>333041041
I don't know if six months is enough time to fix ugly and sluggish. It's actually more like five months, because I'm pretty sure the game goes gold about a month or so before they release it. Even less time if they want to send out early review copies.
>>333041283
>They can't fix the framerate
They're doing that with Umbra though.
Plus, there're always patches.
My expectations are completely the opposite - they will now fully focus on optimising the game and leave the the combat as is.
>>333041338
no the Platinum Demo was
>>333041323
MN9 tier.
http://umbra3d.com/press-releases/umbra-improves-frame-rate-performance-in-final-fantasy-xv/
For enyone who knows shit about this
Does this actually improve the framerate a lot?
They'll probably get 2 or 3 frames improvement by themself through optimization, but seriously the game should run at 35fps all the time so that they can lock it at 30
>>333041321
and yet the performance and responsiveness of the controls did not improve much from Episode Duscae to Platinum Demo
I wouldn't expect anything, if they can't fix it in such a timeframe they won't be able to do it before release
>>333041150
>LEL I am an idort y-you lose 1!!1
>>333040096
Just go to novacrystallis.com
>>333041553
wow good one
>>333041424
Batman Arkham Knight looked great and run very solid on PS4 and Xone.
Witcher 3 also uses it but it took them almost a year to optimize the game for consoles.
>>333041213
Are you saying that they actually made a concept car out of the Regalia?
I just got done playing it. Everything up to the very end had me thinking what the fuck. I ended up fighting the Iron Gian three times though. There's hope, I think. Especially when/if we get to fight much more difficult enemies that require much more precise and thought out approaches. I initially was put off by the "hold down to combo" stuff, until I realised the D-pad pretty much served as the combo/button inputs. Throw in three more characters with their unique roles to switch between and there could be something pretty neat in here.
In the end, with a FF game I'll forgo cutting edge amazing combat as I always have if it can capture my imagination and keep me interested like the older games. I can overlook framrate issues like I have with Souls, and as long as the graphics are decent I don't care at all. Art direction is a lot more important.
But this is their last chance for the franchise. The nail in the coffin or the second coming of Christ. I'm not expecting much, so here's hoping I get a surprise.
>>333041370
Well they had a year to fix the framerate and it was even worse than the first demo. I don't think they can do that in such a small time window.
I've played it, and I have not had any input lag or framerate issues, maybe one tiny bit of stutter on the waterdrop spell.
The combat is for the most part fine, I want them to make targeting magic a little cleaner, since they are using the XIV way of doing it and I never was a fan of that, even more especially for the hectic action combat of this title.
Tabata focusing on the game is smart. They added things to a demo before, they may do so again. I am sure they will listen to feedback, so make sure to you know, provide input when they ask, instead of just sounding off on message boards.
>>333040096
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/04/24996/
But:
>Tabata says originally they didn’t plan to update Duscae either – which saw a 2.0 version several months following release – so anything could happen. Making a demo takes a lot of time and focus so right now there are no plans.
If feedback on PD is as bad as I think it is, they are probably considering patching it at some point later down the line like with the Episode Duscae demo
>>333041741
The demo has worse framerate than Duscae at times while Duscae had a huge grass area with tons of enemies and your party and the PD only is a huge empty room with one enemy and the frametiming is fucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YECC8u0nPO8 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o [Embed]
And the frametiming is actually a way bigger problem than the actual framerate, since it duplicates frames which leads to reduced frames for dodges and parry.
>>333041618
According to the presentation, it's the only of its kind in the world, so I guess so.
>>333041134
its just that if you had a ps4 you could see the feedback on the demo already
its 5000 something ratings are all 5 stars out 5
>>333041741
>I've played it, and I have not had any major issue literally everyone who's played it is complaining about
I believe you XV-kun.
>>333041827
text isn't big enough.
>>333041424
This makes me feel a little better, I guess.
>>333041787
The patch better be fucking huge and add two plates, one to spawn your fucking party and another to spawn 10 goblins and airborne enemies
But the framerate would probably got down to 5 fps
>>333041810
Does anyone actually base their opinion on whether to buy a game on the store ratings?
>>333041893
Never, i barely even look at it, even some of the worst games have 4 to 5 star ratings
>>333039818
That's probably because the 2 hosts are retarded nerds that have zero experience in hosting an event
>>333041607
stop overexagurating things
the framerate is only choppy int the first minutes then it becomes stable
the only time it drops is for a second when you do teleportation attacks
>>333041827
How about you actually play the demo instead of shitposting? There is no input delay on using shield, shuriken or aerial attacks, animation startups are only slow on Broadsword which is intentionally slow and heavy, and ground attacks with Airstep are slower than aerial, and that is part of the weapon weight and swing arc, not input delay.
>>333041827
FFXV-kun doesn't end the last sentence of any of his paragraphs with a period.
>>333041893
you just asked for feedback of the game here>>333041134 you retard
>>333034193
Shuriken is good for staying airborne and you have better moveability in the air with it than the Airstep sword, you can also backflip much further to create more distance, do a warp strike to get a crit bonus then followup with Airstep for close up aerial hits, then on the ground cleave with Broadsword and do tempest plus braveslash which both do crit damage
Shield gives you perfect block that lets you stun enemies and do manual parries.
I never experienced any input delay, I anticipate the IGs attacks by studying the animations it makes when doing certain things so you know exactly when to switch weapons, this combat only raised my impression of XVs combat compared to Episode Duscae even if it was stripped down in most aspects compared to it.
>>333041893
the pcucks love metacritic socres and doritos awards
stop pretending
>>333040402
So? The ps4 version runs at 60fps so it's the best version.
>>333042000
see
>>333041798
If this game does not run at a locked 30 fps with good frametiming the game is fucked
They know exactly why they have auto dodge and why the parry and dodge windows are huge because otherwise with framerate that bad you would fuck up your parry all the time
>>333034539
Both of those play identical to PD.
If only they put a tad little more effort into it, it would've been okay. As someone said, a button to summon your buds would've been good.
>>333042239
You're blind
>>333041957
>samefagging
not pathetic at all
>>333042301
wat
>>333042214
you are a fool
there is no talking to you
Last reply you get
>>333041827
Nah man, XV-kun always SHIT and BTFO out of everyone. He's been quiet for a while. Has he been banned?
>>333042350
>still pretending
fucking reddit
>>333042365
Okay now you're literally just denying facts
>>333042239
There's the turning and stepping animations in the part of the trailer that is at night and in the same area as the PD demo. The attacks from different weapons also flow into eachother really well and seem to be influenced by movement.
noctis is switching between attacking different enemies very quickly, and can be seen dodging over an enemy without a parry QTE.
There is hand to hand combat.
After you let go of a warp point he floats for a moment, This is also seen after attacks.
You can see Attacks being interrupted by warps all over the 2013 trailer.
Those aren't possible in PD.
What's up with the demo defense force in every thread?
The demo is far from perfect, both the combat, the content that the demo gives you and the optimization
But you're literally not allowed to say anything negative about, people like you who just eat shit up and tell themselfs it's meant to be like this lead to bad releases
>>333042609
what defence force?
90%of the thread is bitching and whining about it
>>333042609
I've had no problem but I have backed my comments up with clear facts about the game. Maybe you should elaborate on why you think something is bad.
Also marketers.
>>333042609
like you ate witcher 3 dortios awards and bought their dlcs too?
retard
the demo is fine a lot of people enjoyed it even though they were left a little confused
post your favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLGqmfYfMBk
>>333042587
So is PD based of an old build or is it really supposed to be the most up to date version of the combat? I can't understand why they would remove some of that stuff if so.
>>333039068
Versus gameplay was identical to ED in every way with the exception of ED not having magic or aerial combo, the aerial combo we now have are the same thing as in KH, actually it's more involving since you have directional inputs.
XV even still has a quick menu for items, abilities and more in it in the full game just like the one in KH.
>>333034537
>It's only 3,5gb, thats like, 500mb less than a ps2 game
No that's ~500mb less than the max capacity of a single layered DVD disc, most PS2 games barely break a GB, let alone 2
>>333042301
I'm not that dude >>333042350 though.
And for >>333042168 I didn't mean the scores in general, but the ones in the actual playstation/xlive stores.
>>333042780
Performance is bad even for a demo that came out a year after another demo that had more shit going on, yet a better framerate
The combat works and you can do some things, but it offers almost nothing, there should be another plate to spawn you party and another plate to spawn a few small ground and airborne enemies
And the fact that you have to start the demo from the beginning everytime makes no sense
>>333042860
Ah, hi again with your pasta XV-kun.
Should I replay the same to you?
>no cartwheels as a dodging tool
>no double jumps
>no crush attacks chaining
>no mecha highjacks
>magic isn't incorporated in the combo system
Yeah, absolutely identical.
Retard.
>>333042853
It's just the new build
Tabata changed a lot in terms of combat since he took over in 2014, the biggest change that you just hold buttons to do actions and what the anon above said, things like a float would be amazing for air combat
>>333042860
They just reused some attack animations, that's about it
>>333043053
>Tabata thought this was an improvement
Bring Nomura back damn it.
>>333043140
>Osaka team will ruin KHIII's combat
>Fans' demand will ruin FFVIIR's combat
Truly desperate time we live in.
>>333043282
>Fans' demand will ruin FFVIIR's combat
Isn't the fans' demand that we get ATB back? I know that's my demand.
>>333043282
I small part of Team Tokyo is working on KH3 and the last trailer already looked way better
But the bigget problem with Team Osaka is that they can't balance enemies and gameplay for shit, the super bosses will probably require just spamming the one good move in the game over and over again and the summons will probably be way too strong and the only viable option in some cases
>>333043282
Nah, i trust Nomura to bring in the goods. That man makes good game but just terrible at management. Everything he's done took forever to come out.
>>333043359
>instead of making a full fledged ARPG combat, it will be hindered by the turn-based shitters because "m-muh legacy"
>same with XV that wants to caters to casuals.
Chase two rabbits, you'll catch neither.
I can't believe this is from the same people that made KH2, why are they now having so much trouble making a combat system where you actually feel in control?
>>333043446
None of the KH games took much time to come out. Versus XIII is the only game that went through all the wait and it's not Nomura's fault either.
>>333043485
>Implying there is anything wrong with turn based
It's not my fault your ADHD makes it impossible for you to do anything other than spam attack.
>>333043359
ATB would feel and look stupid as fuck with those graphics
Not having ATB doesn't mean it's automaticly KH action combat
>>333043574
No, anon, I like turn-based combat, but I also like action games and I love both of them enough to understand that they don't mix in at all and only ruin each other if trying to blend them together.
You either make an action game or a turn-based game, simple as that.
>>333042281
Go and watch them
Other than the party members not being there with Noctis there isn't any different in input, combat speed or actions
>>333042587
The weapon flow looks exactly the same, he's only being shown using lances, swords and greatswords in the 2013 and 2014 footage, PD only has a sword and great sword, while the other two weapons are shuriken and shield which were never showcased prior to PD
I'll agree that the lock on is fucked in PD, for whatever reason they locked it so that it will always autolock the nearest target, but that isn't how the lockon would actually work since it's not how it works in ED or even in the Niflheim footage or Uncovered trailers.
Staying airborne after warp strikes and airstep/shuriken also happens in PD
You can cancel actions into warps in PD too
>>333042609
so wait, you just want unanimous bitching in every thread with no contention?
Everyone should share the same opinion and agree with you in a little hugbox? GTFO.
>>333043538
>why are they now having so much trouble
see >>333034882
>>333043591
You mean like how ATB made FFXIII look stupid?
>>333043538
The worst thing is that they changed it multiple times and needed multiple fan feedback to get to this point
Like what was their idea behind this system from the start
Did they just throw ideas in one pot and tried to fit them together?
>>333043661
So why can't it be an ATB game like the original VII?
>>333043743
So you want FFXIII combat?
>>333043828
The only problem with FFXIII's combat was lack of options and controlling one person. It was still an ATB system, like FF4 through 9.
>>333043819
Because it clearly isn't.
And you're an autist if you believe it is.
The "ATB" bar fills up with every command you perform instead of the opposite like in the original.
It's an action game, but it will be hindered by the autists who scream "m-muh legacy".
>>333043682
A float like this would be way better though, especially for actual ait combat against flying enemies
You kill one stay in the air for a bit with the float and go to the next enemy or a warp point without having to warp all the time while wasting your MP or falling down right away
>>333043912
Great, and at literally no point did I say that the current VIIR system WAS ATB, how about you actually read the chain of posts aagain?
>>333043128
No it's the same exact actions, speed and animation meaning it's the same exact input too.
>>333043025
You do realize that there is multiple different dodge methods that you swap out into the dodge slot right? Warp Dodge, Dodge Roll, Shield, Guard Stance are those that used as Dodge, and obviously Cartwheel is too, they just haven't been in recent footage, but dodge roll was not seen in 2011 footage so your point is moot on this
>>no double jumps
There was never double jumps, Noctis only ever jumped onto a truck then platform jumped higher, we've already seen him do a thing like this in the Niflheim footage when he's fighting the soldiers with the daggers, he's on the ground and attacks then jumps and attacks then he is flung even higher into the air and then weapon switches to a lance and does a descend hit
>no crush attacks chaining
PD still has Crush attacks
>no mecha highjacks
But you can, we even see the same turret hijacking in the Niflheim footage alongside Magitek mechs
>>magic isn't incorporated in the combo system
Yes it is, tap L1 then press O when switched to magic and it will hit the target straight away without you having to move it around to cast, this works as part of a combo while you are weapon switching
Every single attack swing, aerial swing, action and input is identical to what we still have, you are just retarded that you can't see it.
>>333043938
>mfw 2013 will be the best state the game was ever in
>>333043140
Nomura doesn't make combat you fuck, the battle system designers do and the FFXV battle system designers are the ones from KH2FM, it's not anyones fault but yours that you are shit at games.
>>333043538
But they aren't, the point of the system is to feel weighted because the weapons all have different properties to them.
>>333044093
Actually the spell that Noctis has in the demo does not target the enemy directly like it did in kH or the 2013 XV footage
It has a fixed distance when you press the O button without aiming
>>333044202
>The director of the game has no influence on the combat
What was the point of turning into monsters?
It controlled like absolute shit.
>>333044202
Actually Nomura helped out with ideas for the combat of Kh, KH2 and Coded
Same as Tabata had idea for the combat in Crisis Core and Type 0
The team that programs the combat does not just sit in a room alone and do what they want you know?
>>333043938
That specific shot was using Armiger, Tabata even said so in one of the ATRs that the 2013 footage was Noctis using Armiger majority of the time.
>>333044093
>There was never double jumps
At all, yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7MwTXYLpg 2:30
>PD still has Crush attacks
I said chaining them together, as in TGS 2014 footage. Instead of the shitty ravage attacks.
>But you can, we even see the same turret hijacking in the Niflheim footage alongside Magitek mechs
Only your precious Tabata clearly stated that you can't highjack mechs anymore, only the turrets.
>Yes it is, tap L1 then press O when switched to magic and it will hit the target straight away without you having to move it around to cast
Only it's still a stand alone animation that can't be cancelled from or into the combo midway.
In short, fuck off, you obnoxious lying scum.
>>333042860
wow versus kinda looks like xenoblade
>>333044392
Source?
Tabata wasn't even the director of the game at that point
And why can't you use armiger in the air in the demo then?
>>333040117
>>333040117
>all this shovelware
>all this below-average games
>all this games that have way better counterparts on PC
kek
>>333044273
I said press L1 to target lock them then tap O when switched to magic, it will target the enemy and hit them straight away with the spell.
>>333041424
yeah it works. They need time to optimize though. They have 6 months, it should be enough. Witcher 3 took forever because they had to optimize for PC and consoles. But when you only care about optimizing for consoles (like arkham knight) then it works wonders.
Umbra is pretty much a death sentence for the game's eventual PC port ever running well though. Like Arkham Knight, the PC port will be a complete mess unless they spend a long time on it like CDprojectRED did with Witcher 3.
>>333044320
Tabata has been the co-director since 2012 and according to Nomura himself back in 2013 he said that Tabata is the one who had been managing the actual day to day work ever since Versus became XV
The demo really made me think the combat was not very good, and then I got really disappointed when I realized it's worse than Nier's but people will say it's much better.
>>333044624
Wait is Batham still a mess? I thought a patch came out a few months ago
They really fucked up the PC release, same with MKX
>nomura doesn't get anywhere
>people hate tabata
is toriyama the one that can do it?
>>333044540
Yes he was, Tabata was co-director since 2012 and Nomura said that Tabata had been in charge of the actual day to day work since he joined, he's basically been in charge since 2012 by Nomura's own admission.
>And why can't you use armiger in the air in the demo then?
Because this is a barebones as shit demo
>>333044667
Source?
>>333041618
Not the Regalia.
They have a Audi R8 in the movie
they need to fix the magic
even if you quickly tap the button enemies just walk the fuck out of the way
>>333044707
It actually runs now. It is still an unoptimized mess that looks and runs better on PS4 than on anything but the highest end of PCs (without much visual improvement other than higher resolution potential and more AA)
>>333042921
Actually a party would only hide the fact that the game is shallow right now.
>>333043025
I'll let you in on a little secret.Cartwheels are in
>>333044775
He will link you to the article in which Nomura said that Tabata will be doing all the media coverage from now on, don't even bother.
>>333041424
>http://umbra3d.com/press-releases/umbra-improves-frame-rate-performance-in-final-fantasy-xv/
One big thing to note is that the performance will improve, but there is also a few things going on behind the scenes.
Any game developed on direct X11 is actually using direct X11.1 or .2 which contains shared libraries for DirectX12
Microsofts big thing this year will be to port the game to Direct X12 and show the advantage xbox one has at E3, as well as show how easy it is to port games over to UWP and allow for FFXV to be on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwSzpuRR2FI
>>333044834
>Cartwheels are in
As a Knightguard ability, not an actual dodging tool.
>>333044783
Well if it's an actual production car, what makes it one-of-a-kind?
>>333044492
Dude I literally just told you how that isn't one, he jumped up onto the truck then jumped higher from the truck by bouncing off it, you can even see him pushing his hand onto the truck to push himself higher, that is barely any different than how Noctis does a ground hit with the daggers in the aerial then jumps and then propels himself even higher
> as in TGS 2014 footage.
You do realize that the TGS 2014 footage was stated to be them just holding down attack in that recording right? That wasn't manual inputting crushes, that was just them having the crush animations in place of the ravage ones at that time.
>Only your precious Tabata clearly stated that you can't highjack mechs anymore, only the turrets.
How is hijacking turrets any fucking different when it does the same exact thing?
>Only it's still a stand alone animation that can't be cancelled from or into the combo midway.
There was no indication you could cancel magic in the 2011 footage at all.
Fuck off Serj, I know that's you you russian faggot.
>>333044973
>Dude I literally just told you how that isn't one, he jumped up onto the truck then jumped higher from the truck by bouncing off it
You're either blind, deluded or retarded.
Won't be even reading the rest of your post.
>>333044804
Attack
Magic
Summon
Item
Pick magic
Fira
Miss
(That's how I imagined it happen)
>>333044775
http://finaland.com/?rub=site&page=news&id=4865
>Finaland & FFDream: What will the addition of Hajime Tabata, the great producer of Final Fantasy Type-0 bring to the FFXV team ?
>Tetsuya Nomura: The reason why we bringed Tabata-san into the team is because he always said to me that it wanted to join the Final Fantasy XV project. I asked him in the team, his vitality and mentality are always very motivated and very high. In the future campaign and until the game is out, Tabata-san himself will be going to speak in front of you guys more often so please ask him in details when he’s available.
>Finaland & FFDream: Nomura-san, you work on a lot of project like Final Fantasy XV, the Kingdom Hearts Saga, The World Ends With You. How do you manage all the projects you have at the same time?
Tetsuya Nomura: Actually I am not very good at managing myself, especially at managing lots of different projects, but because of my staff and all the staffs are very very intelligent, very good and very capable I’m able to run all the different projects at the same time. And also the most important are the Co-Directors in each project, again they are very capable and skilled people, they are the people actually managing the actual everyday job on the ground. That’s why I’m here, they are supporting me all the time.
>And also the most important are the Co-Directors in each project, again they are very capable and skilled people, they are the people actually managing the actual everyday job on the ground.
This interview is from July 2013, Tabata joined FFXV in 2012 as Co-Director, and here Nomura flat out says that the Co-Directors on the game are managing the actual day to day work, also he confirmed that he is the one who asked Tabata onto the FFXV team in the first place.
>>333044551
>t-they are all shit !1!
being this mad
Definitely gonna wait for the PC version now.
>>333044973
>Fuck off Serj
B-but that wasn't me.
Also, I'm Ukrainian.
![Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII_Januray_Trailer_720p_.webm_snapshot_00.01_[2015.09.23_01.32.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6vB6bwj.jpg "Final Fantasy Versus XIII Januray Trailer 720p snapshot 00.01 [2015.09.23 01.32.53]")
>>333045076
So you really are stupid because you can flat out fucking see that he pushes his hand onto the track then bounces off the truck, that is not a double jump, he jumps onto the truck and then jumps off the truck even higher, which is just like how we see Noctis doing the dagger attack in the Niflheim footage where he then propelled himself even higher after jumping from hitting the enemy.
>>333045307
>3 years later
you sure have patiece
>>333044916
design
>>333045373
I waited for the pc version of GTAV when I could have played it on my 360.
>>333045307
I'll wait for the FM+ PS 4.5 version
>>333034502
You should buy an Xbone for one game instead
>>333044897
Yes it is. I just found it. Altough you can dodge a type of damage with it, it's not the kind of damage you would expect.
I will post a thread about it in a moment since this has heavy implications about the depth and control scheme of the game.
>mfw no roll inv frames
Literally why
>>333045426
Unf. The R8 is such a sexy car.
>>333045359
Trully a blind faggot.
Tell me for real, are you seriously okay with lying with straight face or you have a very poor environmental and distance awareness?
He was literally a meter away from the track when he performed the double jump.
What is with L1/2 + R1/2 Buttons anyway m8s these are the most important Buttons because triggering them feels more natural than X[]OA honestly what the fuck.
What are L2/R2 even for in this game? Either FFXV is shit or the Demo is not really FFXV
>>333045456
i bet you had fun when you were waitng for it
and i bet you had fun playing it 3 years later while waiting for the next awesome game that everyone else was playing
>>333045519
You're talking about the fall damage, and once again it's a form of Knighguard ability that is presented in the Platinum Demo.
Nothing new here.
>>333045687
It's a tech demo for normies, they'll probably be used for something in the game proper.
Add a fucking climbing animation
I don't want to bunnyhop onto every platform it looks stupid
>>333045737
Have fun beta testing for me kiddo.
>>333045771
How do you do it?
>>333045815
Are normies really that fucking retarded? Why would you leave four important fucking buttons away wtf this is not ps1 anymore.
i want to do cool things with L2 and R2 reeee
>>333045886
you can't get more pathetic than this
>>333045684
Dude you can literally fucking see him push his hand onto the track and push himself upward
He is not double jumping, he jumps onto the truck then pushes himself higher after rebounding from the truck
>>333045687
L1 is temporal lock on
L2 was for hiding behind shit to gain MP at least that's how it was in the Duscae demo
r1+l1 is Armiger
R2 cold be to use the second dpad selectoin for weapons
R1 is too give command to your party
>>333045771
Yes I'm talking about the fall damage, but in duscae when you would do it you'd just press dodge. In PD it's a 2 button move. you press triangle+square.
>>333046192
L1 was used for giving commands in the niflheim Trailer and IIRC they used triangle for hiding
>>333046192
Thanks for the elaboration never played Duscae. Anyways L1 for temporal lock on sounds good.
>>333046241
No you just press square before hitting the ground
>>333037086
Good article. You write it?
>>333046268
Which is weird because triangle in the demo is the warp while l1 is lock on
How many times do they want to change to button layouts
At least it has a good falling animation kek.
It's time to decide
http://strawpoll.me/7268075
https://youtu.be/uQ7MwTXYLpg?t=150
>>333046353
Nope. He does a roll then.
>>333046464
Do you really think you'll get an honest answer on /v/?
>>333046045
Yeah wanting the best experience is pretty pathetic.
>>333046461
>oh FUCK
>neat
>>333046491
Fuck forget it. You're right. I figured I had confirmed the existance of 2 button moves. what the fuck.
>>333042139
>this retard again
>>333046442
Maybe the L1 works as a softlock the same way circle does so that you actually hit things with your Team skills
>Versus XIII had a dark undertone
>XV just feels goofy
>mfw Somnus is not used anymore except for the Duscae demo
Seriously they should thank Shimomura every second of their life for the soundtrack instead of playing Stand by Me
>>333046523
>best expirience
>hiting a high number on fraps is the best expirience
>>333046772
Somnus is still used in the PS4 theme so it will probably be in the game at least as a main menu theme.
>>333046772
It's also in PD. But I'd love to see it in a trailer again.
>>333040471
>disgaea
>EDF
>Nep
>good
Loving Every Laugh
>>333046946
>>333046967
Aren't you getting tired of the OST by now. I am one of the defenders here and preordered the game but after so many years of Somnus, Omnis Lacrima and Gratia Mundi i know these tracks too well to enjoy them anymore.
>>333047182
I don't think I'll ever get sick of Sommus, but yes they always play the same three fucking songs since duscae.
>>333044973
Speaking of, how come you conceal yourself so well in the Forums, FFXV-kun?
I still can't tell if you're NoctisPendragon or Erazer.
>>333046734
They already confirmed months ago you can manually set up the button inputs yourself in the full game
>>333047115
>there are actually people who don't like EDF
Get the fuck out of my face, you unimaginable bastard.
>>333047251
more like the same three tracks since ever. Admittedly good music but not much of it.
>>333047115
>/v/ now hates Neptunia
I dont recognize this board anymore.
>>333047182
>>333047251
I never get sick of Shimomura songs.
Yes it is annoying that they only use those few tracks for every big thing but I really can't get tired of them.
>>333047308
I don't think it's erazer, he seems too normal and calm in most discussions
>>333034193
>shuriken is useless
I was with you until this part.
>>333047251
>>333047489
To be fair we got some new music now and then.
The driving footage, the camping and chocobo themes and a few others. They just weren't used in the marketing for some reason
>>333047598
I also suspected Firegod3 for a while but other than that I really can't tell.
>>333040117
jesus those arent even out
i bet most of them will come out on pc and xbone too except the obvious ones like last guardian and other ips
![Jan_ATR_gameplay_FINAL_160129.mp4_snapshot_02.33_[2016.04.04_00.48.58].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MTSYiFM.jpg "Jan ATR gameplay FINAL 160129.mp4 snapshot 02.33 [2016.04.04 00.48.58]")
>>333046192
The Niflheim and Uncovered footage shows us that
L1 = Party command menu, you press L1 to toggle to a party menu where commands for Ignis, Gladio, Prompto and Cor are mapped to the D pad and you give them inputs from there, they also have a dedicated "ATB" like charge bar for their commands.
L2 is for the Battle Menu, the Progress Report 1 and Niflheim footage you can see a quick menu like in KH for Items/Abilities/Whatever which when you press L2 it toggles to the menu and then use the Dpad left or right to go between Items, Abilities, whatever and you input them with Triangle.
How lock on works in PD is definitely not how it works in the actual game, because it already looks different than the Niflheim footage and the Uncovered trailers too
R1 is most likely still Lock on button and R2 unknown at this point
>>333048349
Press R2 to turn into Lightning.
![FINAL FANTASY XV 2013 E3 トレーラー.mp4_snapshot_01.02_[2016.04.03_17.03.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fN9845h.jpg "FINAL FANTASY XV 2013 E3 トレーラー.mp4 snapshot 01.02 [2016.04.03 17.03.02]")
>mfw old regis never ever
>>333048489
Destiny is destiny
>>333048494
he looks like driver-kun thee
>they changed his face because of the movie
what the retarded fuck?
>>333046684
This shit eater again.
>>333046761
But that's wrong, if anything XV has a darker tone than Versus ever did, showing literal child abuse, city wide destruction and despair.
Versus just showed a bunch of scenes of Insomnia at night time over and over then scenes of Noctis and co broing out.
XV is showing the full scope of the tone and delves more into the darker stuff and lighter stuff, since we are seeing more of it.
>>333046772
Yes it is, it was literally used to start the entire Uncovered event and when Sakaguchi was on stage and it's been used in both FFXV demos, and Shimomura also played it at her live concert a few months back.
>Seriously they should thank Shimomura every second of their life for the soundtrack instead of playing Stand by Me
Nigger what?
Somnus is the main theme of XV but Stand by me is the theme song.
Just like Dearly Beloved is the main theme of KH but Simple and Clean is the theme song.
Stand by Me perfectly encapsulates and fits the theme of bonds that they have always been going for since the day it was announced and it doubly fits in because of the film it was used in which XV is clearly channeling and has been since Versus.
>>333048704
please fuck off XV-kun
XV's only shown off goofy shit and loli abuse doesn't make it dark and gritty - it's just lazy
>>333048892
The last trailer had more impact storywise than any Versus trailer did
>>333047182
>Gratia Mundi
This is a made up name not the official name, the track itself is the theme used in Altissia but "Gratia Mundi" was a fanmade name by a guy who made a recreation of it and posted it on youtube, he named it that then everyone just started calling it that for some reason.
We also got like 7 new FFXV tracks at Uncovered, the first track in the new trailer, the environment trailer which sounds like it could be Shimomura's prelude, Noctis's dream, the playroom, a 3rd battle theme, the farewell theme, also Shimomura is also doing Brotherhood OST and did the main theme for Kingsglaive which we heard new tracks for, oh and the pinball minigame track.
>>333047308
I'm none of them.
>>333049032
LOL
Noctis yells for a few seconds. That's it.
Shows Luna about to take on Leviathan, then Tabata says she's completely unplayable, not even a guest party member.
GG
>>333049032
>more impact storywise
And yet we have no idea what's going on with this new shitty story.
>>333049223
And Noctis yelling and putting on the ring had more impact than anything in Versus.
We didn't even get many story details from Versus
>>333048892
So you are just meme spouting now.
>>333049032
This.
>>333049297
Yes we do idiot.
>>333049223
So you didn't watch it and also ignoring that Tabata said before that Luna doesn't join the party, we join Luna's party, he just said again that Luna isn't going to buddy up with us, because it's Noctis who joins up with her.
>>333049423
>Yes we do idiot.
oh yeah
elaborate
>>333049423
>he just said again that Luna isn't going to buddy up with us, because it's Noctis who joins up with her.
Okay cool now you're making shit up.
>>333049319
oh wow a ring that explains everything
>>333049537
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/luna-shows-up-as-a-guest-party-member-in-final-fantasy-xv/
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
And now this:
>You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.But the team hopes that people find her lovable, and they feel she will appeal to players easily. She will play a huge part in Kingsglaive.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/15-new-things-we-learned-from-final-fantasy-15s-di/1100-6436138/
What a hack.
They just keep stripping more and more away from this abomination.
>>333048892
You never watched the Versus trailers at all then.
2006 literally just shows Noctis fighting soldiers at night time, nothing more, nothing is revealed to be dark about this at all.
2008, the only new scenes are of the four of the guys headlocking and goofying around, one scene of them looking at a building, a scene of them in a car, a scene of them getting out of a car, a shot of Regis sitting in his council room ( which has an identical shot in the Kingsglaive trailer), and Noctis and Stella drawing weapons at each other, the only scene with real impact was Noctis and Hooded guy and this scene is mirrored in the Iedolas vs Regis scene seen in the XV trailers and in Kingsglaive
What was dark about Versus more than XV, it isn't at all?
Meanwhile XV trailer shows cities being destroyed, Leviathan wreacking havok, actual story and dialogue, proper tone is set, stakes are set, urgency is actually felt, there is more dark tone here, showing literal child abuse, showing literal death and destruction, showing actual heavy themes of despair, showing it also shows the light hearted side that was always there
>>333049297
We know the general things that happen.
Spoiling too much of the story would be retarded.
>>333049506
Noctis is sent to Altissia to marry Luna.
As soon as they get out of the city Niflheim forces start attacking Lucis. Then the scene from the trailer happens where Noctis calls Cor.
Noctis starts his journey and is lost because most people he knows are dead and his kingdom is destroyed.
Along the journey Noctis accepts the situation and starts to fight back, reclaim his kingdom and become a good king.
>>333049576
What?
>400+ replies
>50 posters
It's literally just one guy shitposting and samefagging about FFXV.
>>333049767
PLEASE WE HAD TO CUT HER COMBAT TO MAKE THE MOVIE
PLEASE LIKE THE MOVIE
HAAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A TRAINWRECK
>>333049895
Or people are talking about the game?
Yes there are shitposters in this thread but there's also a bit of discussion (with shitposters)
>>333049860
>Noctis is sent to Altissia to marry Luna.
>As soon as they get out of the city Niflheim forces start attacking Lucis. Then the scene from the trailer happens where Noctis calls Cor.
>Noctis starts his journey and is lost because most people he knows are dead and his kingdom is destroyed.
>Along the journey Noctis accepts the situation and starts to fight back, reclaim his kingdom and become a good king.
wow that sounds generic as fuck
>>333049767
B-B-BUT TABATA SAID
>>333050023
It's more about how they fill the holes between these event that can make the story great
>>333034193
I played through it, I liked that there was a reward for playing through it a second time (hidden Shield/Shuriken weapons to fight Iron Giant)
Loved stuff like being able to knock down the toy blocks and dynamic time/weather changing.
Not a fan of the combat but honestly that felt like the least interesting part of the whole demo. They clearly just wanted to show off their fancy textures (look at dat wood flooring) and physics
the iron giant fight was good too.
>>333049767
Wow they just keep stripping more and more. I wonder what else they haven't told us.
I bet the airship, I mean flying car will be non-manoeuvrable. Calling it now.
They even said they changed Regis' appearance just for the movie. What the fucking hell is up with that? He looks so shit now. They wanted to make him look like he's out of game of thrones to appeal to western audience.
>>333049506
>elaborate
Noctis and Luna are to wed because of a peace treaty with Niflheim and Lucis, Niflheim has control over Tenebrae where Luna is from and so as an offer of peace Regis offers Noctis to wed Luna to join their kingdoms to end the cold war, the game starts off with Noctis heading to Altissia to his wedding, meanwhile in Insomnia Niflheim has laucnehd a full scale invasion and war on the city, it is completely decimated, the death count already high and ontop of that Regis has been declared dead, alongside Luna and Noctis.
Noctis learns of these peace treaty invasion and is pissed off to no end, he just lost his kingdom, his father and assumed his fiance dead, he now has no choice but to counter attack a war against Niflheim and take back his kingdom, doing so by going around the world and seeking the summons, known as Astrals and Archaeans, and all this is happening while he is being hunted down by Niflheim with orders to be killed on sigh.
It is at some point he learns that Luna is still alive and they have communicated through their messenger dogs to meet up in Altissia, however when Noctis gets there he is ambushed by Niflheim soldiers and the Leviathan is destroying the city
And on top of that there is a plague of the stars slowly decaying the world and plunging it into a perpetual night, as well as Noctis now that he is king will succumb to the matry'd fate of a Lucis king, he is doomed to a life of turmoil with his lifeforce literally draining from him at all times, rapidly aging him due to the curse.
>Okay cool now you're making shit up.
Idiot
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/luna-shows-up-as-a-guest-party-member-in-final-fantasy-xv/
Luna doesn't join our party, Noctis is the one who joins hers. Tabata said this at TGS, he just reiterated it today.
>>333049767
Yes we don't play as her and she doesn't join our party
Noctis is the one joining HER party, can you not read?
Tabata is literally saying again that Luna doesn't join our party.
>>333050571
>http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/luna-shows-up-as-a-guest-party-member-in-final-fantasy-xv/
>2015
lmao XV-kun get with the times
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/15-new-things-we-learned-from-final-fantasy-15s-di/1100-6436138/
But ho ahead and keep believing Tabata's bullshit you autistic shit.
>>333038098
At least he's not actually speaking, that would have been painful to sit through.
>>333034193
So clomplain a lot , send emails, post it on your blog and facebook. Let squenix know so they can make a better game. Personally I like all this demos, this is a chance of feedback.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.44_[2016.04.01_20.28.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YBTikQH.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.44 [2016.04.01 20.28.13]")
>>333049935
>>333050078
Nice samefag
>>333050309
Dude can you not read?
He is saying she doesn't join our party which is the same thing he said back at TGS, he said that Noctis is the one who joins hers
Also Kingsglaive started THREE fucking years ago so no this was not a change at all, since when they first said Noctis joins Luna's party Kingsglaive was already far into production.
Just because he's voiced by Sean Bean doesn't mean he looks GoT, he still wears a modern suit and still has a hair and beard style that you see in modern times on businessman and mafia, just because he wears a ceremonial cloak sometimes over his suit doesn't make it GoT either
>>333050886
They only care about japanese feedback
>>333047353
Let's hope we can also set up air dodge so it doesn't happen before each attack.
>>333050807
So you can't read?
He is literally saying again that she doesn't join the party, which is exactly what he said at TGS.
Noctis is the one joining hers.
>>333048494
reminder that the same leaker who talked about Kingsglaive and Platinum Demo before the event said that the original Regis design is still in the game, but as a design for an older, aged Noctis. Prepare your anuses for a timeskip.
>>333050571
>>333050658
>XV-kun on full damage control that he has to dig up old ass articles
toppest of keks
This game is an absolute mess.
>>333050945
>Noctis joins her party
see >>333050807
He clearly says she has no combat roll whatsoever. Not one. He is in nothing but cutscenes. Actually he says you won't even SEE her fight.
Give it up XV-kun.
Regis looked better without the shitty hobo beard too.
>>333051070
Can't YOU read?
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>Despite her large role in the story, Luna will not be your pal in battle. But the team hopes that people find her lovable, and they feel she will appeal to players easily. She will play a huge part in Kingsglaive.
He basically retracted your bullshit of Noctis joining her non-existent party.
Give it a fucking rest you autistic faggot.
>>333035136
>mashing triangle and X repeatedly
>git gud
kek
>>333051152
>He clearly says she has no combat roll whatsoever.
No he doesn't you blind retard
He says that she doesn't join our party because she is not like Cor who joins our party, he specifically said Noctis joins HER party, what he is saying now is the same exact shit, that she doesn't join the party, you literally cannot fucking read.
And if you even fucking watched the Uncovered trailer you can literally see Luna about to showdown against the Leviathan so clearly we would see her fight the Leviathan in a cutscene anyway, but that is besides the point, it's already been confirmed that she does not join our party, but that Noctis is the one joining her.
>>333051261
>or fight alongside her
>Luna will not be your pal in battle
It's OGRE.
![FFXV E3 2013 Trailer.mp4_snapshot_03.02_[2016.04.03_17.40.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ax9ik6b.jpg "FFXV E3 2013 Trailer.mp4 snapshot 03.02 [2016.04.03 17.40.37]")
>>333051330
>No he doesn't you blind retard
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/15-new-things-we-learned-from-final-fantasy-15s-di/1100-6436138/
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>or fight alongside her
>Luna will not be your pal in battle.
go ahead and refer to that old as fuck article from September against you massive retard
>>333051261
>He basically retracted your bullshit of Noctis joining her non-existent party.
No he didn't, holy shit can you NOT FUCKING READ?
LUNA DOES NOT JOIN THEIR PARTY
She is not a party member like Cor, it's Noctis joining HER party, therefore she is not our pal in battle, Noctis is the one helping her out, none of that contradicts a single thing he said at TGS.
And for fucks sakes Kingsglaive was already well into production for 2 years when he said that at TGS so you are clearly desperate to shitpost by twisting his words, he is only reitterating that she does not join OUR party, he already confirmed it's Noctis who joins hers.
>>333051294
Confirmed for not having played the game. It's still casual but be realistic. People won't be able to discern between shitposting and an actual opinion, of which yours is the former.
GUYS
I just read a leaked article from 2006, appereantly you can control your whole party in FF V13!
>>333051330
>we would see her fight the Leviathan in a cutscene anyway
>cutscene
>anyway
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>333051520
>mentioning the Sept article full of shit again
top kek this nigga is literally insane
she doesn't have a party- he just said she has ZERO role in combat
give it up you drone
>>333051443
So you still can't read because that literally only says Luna does not join OUR party, which is exactly what Tabata said at TGS last year you fucking moron.
She does not join our party, Noctis is the one joining hers.
DONT FUCK WITH NOCTIS
>>333051520
>Noctis joining HER party, therefore she is not our pal in battle
That makes zero sense, and you just contradicted yourself.
>>333051687
No he says she has zero role in any combat. She doesn't have a party. You keep clinging on to the September article like it means anything when he just retracted so much. She has no party. You're fucking done. Stop repeating bullshit as if doing it enough times will make it true.
>>333051687
>You join her party
>You don't fight alongside her
How the fuck does that work?
>>333051673
>>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You literally just said we won't be seeing Luna fight at all, you were just proven wrong, since it's already been confirmed that we will be seeing Luna fight since we see her confronting the Leviathan, that fact alone already proves you wrong.
And again Tabata is only saying she does not join OUR party, which he already said back at TGS last year, it's already been confirmed Noctis is the one who joins hers, nothing has changed with this, you just can't fucking read basic English.
>he just said she has ZERO role in combat
So you are making shit up again
>she doesn't have a party
Except she does and it's already confirmed she does, you were proven wrong.
>>333051847
>>333051851
Don't bother replying to XV-kun he is literally mentally deranged.
>>333051521
I played the demo and beat the iron giant 3 times. He's doing exactly what I said until he activated autism mode and started mashing O. If he wasn't using triangle attacks he wouldn't be eating 10mp per attack.
>>333051886
>You literally just said we won't be seeing Luna fight at all
No you fucking IDIOT. Tabata said she has no role in combat whatsoever. If you think just because she fights in a cutscene that means it's considering gameplay battle then you really need to kill yourself.
Your mental breakdown is hilarious.
>So you are making shit up again
Literally fucking what? Do you just ignore facts?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/15-new-things-we-learned-from-final-fantasy-15s-di/1100-6436138/
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside >14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.her.
>>333051847
>That makes zero sense, and you just contradicted yourself.
No, because Tabata specifically stated Luna does not join OUR party
Therefor she is not one of the buddies, she is not OUR pal, it is Noctis who is the one who joins HER
Fucking idiot, learn to read.
>No he says she has zero role in any combat
Wrong, this was never once said.
>She doesn't have a party.
Yes she does, already confirmed
>You keep clinging on to the September article like it means anything when he just retracted so much.
It literally proves you wrong and doesn't contradict a single thing he is saying now.
>She has no party.
Yes she does already confirmed.
>You're fucking done. Stop repeating bullshit as if doing it enough times will make it true.
Fuck off Kagari, you are just desperate to claim victory over yoru own autistic misreading of what Tabata said just so you can act like your shitty Stella is superior, get the fuck over yourself, it's already confirmed that Noctis is the one who joins Luna's party, and that Luna does not join our party, therefor she is not our pal because she is not joining OUR party you fuck
>>333051886
>And again Tabata is only saying she does not join OUR party
No he's literally saying she has no role in the gameplay whatsoever. Everything he said about her joining you or you joining her was bullshit, and it's driving you mad.
>>333052142
>Fucking idiot, learn to read.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>>333050960
Isn't that better? I hope they never want the vocal mass effect and dragon age audience.
>>333052109
>Tabata said she has no role in combat whatsoever
No he didn't
> If you think just because she fights in a cutscene that means it's considering gameplay battle then you really need to kill yourself.
Dude you are literally contradicting yourself, you just fucking said we won't see Luna fight even in a cutscene, yet I just fucking proved you wrong about that because we already literally see her about the showdown with the Leviathan
And again I said that was BESDIES THE FUCKING POINT YOU CUNT
Noctis is already confirmed to join HER party, this was already stated back at TGS, Tabata is only now reittering that Luna doesn't join our party, because it's Noctis who joins her.
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/luna-shows-up-as-a-guest-party-member-in-final-fantasy-xv/
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>333052142
Hey fuckface, explain this
>>333051851
>>333052208
No he didn't at all, he said she does not join our party. Nice fucking denial though, you literally cannot fucking read.
>>333052536
>September 2015
holy shit you really are mentally challenged
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.22_[2016.04.04_01.55.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5FN00n8.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.22 [2016.04.04 01.55.17]")
>>333052312
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>333052017
Pressing just O at long range does a teleport attack. It's not warping, but it still takes MP
>>333052536
>http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/luna-shows-up-as-a-guest-party-member-in-final-fantasy-xv/
>>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>>her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>2015
>completely ignored the interview from mere days ago that debunks all that
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>>333052749
>still quoting the Sept article
>cutscene
holy fucking shit XV-kun on suicide watch
![FFXV E3 2013 Trailer.mp4_snapshot_03.08_[2016.04.03_17.41.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3VAJetk.jpg "FFXV E3 2013 Trailer.mp4 snapshot 03.08 [2016.04.03 17.41.26]")
Is Asscreed still in?
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.20_[2016.04.04_01.57.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5HcERED.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.20 [2016.04.04 01.57.25]")
>>333052539
SHE IS NOT PART OF OUR PARTY
NOCTIS JOINS HER
SHE IS NOT ONE OF THE PALS IN OUR PARTY
BECAUSE NOCTIS JOINS HER
FUCKING IDIOT
WHY CAN'T YOU READ
AND BY YOUR OWN FUCKING LOGIC THIS SCENE OF LUNA FIGHTING THE LEVIATHAN DOESN'T EVEN EXIST SINCE AT ALL
YOU ARE BEYOND FUCKING RETARDED AND ARE LITERALLY IGNORING REALITY RIGHT NOW
>>333052749
>her battle will be as a guest party member - September 2015
>You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her. - March 2016
>actually thinking a cutscene counts as gameplay
When are you killing yourself XV-kun?
>>333052984
>NOCTIS JOINS HER
So then how come we don't fight alongside her, how does that make sense?
>>333052984
>NOCTIS JOINS HER NON-EXISTENT ROLE IN COMBAT
Makes sense.
>AND BY YOUR OWN FUCKING LOGIC THIS SCENE OF LUNA FIGHTING THE LEVIATHAN DOESN'T EVEN EXIST SINCE AT ALL
It's a fucking cutscene with no context.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.18_[2016.04.04_01.57.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kd4TRVb.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.18 [2016.04.04 01.57.36]")
>>333052652
Holy shit you are literally in denial because you can't fucking read
He said she doesn't join our party, he said that Noctis joins hers
He is reitterating today that she is not "your pal" because she does not join OUR party, that is becauses it is Noctis who joins her party, not her joining ours.
This has already been fucking established and you are literally in denial
Again by your own dumbfuck logic we don't see Luna fight in any capacity which this scene already proves you wrong since she is literally having a showdown with the Leviathan
>>333053230
>Noctis joins hers
>You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her
How does it work when she has no party or role in combat whatsoever?
Please explain instead of sperging out.
>>333052984
Man don't blow a gasket trying to defend Tabata's bullshit, it's not worth it.
>>333053362
>trying to talk sense to XV-kun
The dude is literally mentally retarded.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.12_[2016.04.04_02.04.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BWKADy0.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.12 [2016.04.04 02.04.09]")
>>333052848
>>completely ignored the interview from mere days ago that debunks all that
Nothing debunks anything, it goes completely inline with what he said back then, because he said Luna does not join our party, it's Noctis joining hers
And today he again said that Luna does not join our party, because again as we already know it's Noctis who joins her
You are literally in fucking denial, by your own logic not even that cutscene should exist because you are literally saying we won't see Luna fight in any capacity, but the fucking latest trailer from 2 days ago proves you fucking wrong on an objective level
>>333053452
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=159902&page=3217
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ffxv-kun on suicide watch
>>333053452
>Nothing debunks anything
>You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her
>it's Noctis joining her non-existent role in combat
It's like you keep making shit up in your head until you actually start believing your own bullshit.
>>333053452
Source?
Do you just skype chat with Tabata all day?
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.13_[2016.04.04_02.07.55].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1lN0IVP.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.13 [2016.04.04 02.07.55]")
>>333053041
So you can't fucking read basic text?
You JUST fucking said we won't see her fight even in cutscenes, yet that cutscene of her showing down against the Leviathan proves you wrong
Your argument is hinged entirely on you saying she doesn't fight in any capacity, which has already been proven wrong.
And it's already been proven that Noctis does join her party and that she is not joining ours
>>333053064
He is saying that Luna does not join our party as one of our pals, which is the same fucking thing he said back at TGS where he said she doesn't join our party but instead it's Noctis who joins hers
Nothing has changed since then, for fuck sakes you dumb faggot Kingsglaive was literally already in production for 2 years by that point and also it's already been confirmed that Luna fights with her Trident, which we can literally fucking see her with in the latest trailer
>>333053647
Source is Sept 2015, the exact same time hesaid Luna would join your party as a guest member which he retracted a few days ago.
It's literally ruining XV-kun's life, and he keeps clinging to that September article like it means anything.
>>333053197
>>NOCTIS JOINS HER NON-EXISTENT ROLE IN COMBAT
What non existent role? You mean the one that has already been proven to exist from the latest fucking trailer where she is showing down against the Leviathan with her Trident ready? You mean that same Trident that they said that Luna fights with? Are you fucking retarded?
>It's a fucking cutscene with no context.
So now you are backpedaling.
>>333053795
>You JUST fucking said we won't see her fight even in cutscenes
I never once said that you fucking dumb fuck. I said we won't see her fight in gameplay, as it what Tabata said. Stop making shit up you deluded faggot. All I said is cutsenes are not gameplay.
>>333053898
>You mean the one that has already been proven to exist from the latest fucking trailer where she is showing down against the Leviathan with her Trident ready
>cutscenes are gameplay now
I fucking love this back peddling holy fuck.
>>333053313
How is it possible that you literally cannot fucking read?
She does not join our party, and she was NEVER playable, it is Noctis who joins HER party
And we can outright fucking see she has a combat role because WE CAN FUCKING SEE HER WITH HER TRIDENT AT THE READY FACING OFF AGAINST THE LEVIATHAN
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU CANNOT BE MORE AUTISTIC
>>333053439
You mean you faggots can't read basic English and also ignore the trailer and everything else we know just so you can shitpost.
>>333053795
>When he said you don't fight alongside her he meant that you will join her party and therefore fight alongside her
Oh I see, makes sense.
>>333047872
>i know what i am talking about
nah
>>333054102
XV-kun is literally breaking down and fumbling hard. This shit is hilarious. The nigga actually is trying to say a cutscene counts as gameplay.
>inb4 Tabata lied again and a new article pops up in a few weeks
>>333054226
>inb4 XV-kun's brain explodes from all the mental gymnastics he tries to pull afterwards
>>333053898
>What non existent role?
The article that restricts her role to cutscenes,
I'll post it again so hopefully it makes you cry again.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/15-new-things-we-learned-from-final-fantasy-15s-di/1100-6436138/
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>>333054226
>inb4 underwater region and combat is cut
>>333054329
I think this is the big one, I haven't seen him in THIS MUCH denial before. I've seen him sperg out sure, but this is a big one.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.19_[2016.04.04_02.17.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kjlrlOg.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.19 [2016.04.04 02.17.07]")
>>333053636
>>You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her
Luna was never once said to be playable you fucknig idiot, and she does not join OUR party
It's Noctis joining HER
>>it's Noctis joining her non-existent role in combat
What non existent role? It's already confirmed she has her own party and that Noctis joins her, for fuck sakes we already know she has a combat role because WE CAN FUCKING SEE IT AND IT'S ALREADY CONFIRMED SHE FIGHTS WITH A TRIDENT WHICH WE CAN LITERALLY SEE HER WITH IN THE LATEST TRAILER
I mean I know you are in denial and desperate to shit on Luna with all your might just because she's not Stella but at least try to use some fucking logic Kagari you utter cunt.
![FFXV E3 2013 Trailer.mp4_snapshot_02.59_[2016.04.03_18.19.43].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eBs4Pjq.jpg "FFXV E3 2013 Trailer.mp4 snapshot 02.59 [2016.04.03 18.19.43]")
Who is this "Luna" girl?
>>333054504
do you have a whole folder of pics of that scene that you fap to reciting the September article while you cry and fail to ejaculate?
>>333054440
Already cut
You really think they actually out effort into underwater animatoins that they can't reuse from V13?
>>333054504
>It's Noctis joining HER
>or fight alongside her
keep it up
>>333053925
>I never once said that you fucking dumb fuck.
Yes you did, right fucking here
>>333051152
>
He clearly says she has no combat roll whatsoever. Not one. He is in nothing but cutscenes. Actually he says you won't even SEE her fight.
>Actually he says you won't even SEE her fight.
This is what you literally fucking said, that we won't even SEE her fight, yet we can plainly see her fight in the latest trailer and we already know for a fact that her weapon is a Trident which we can see her with
You are completely fucking wrong
>>333054706
Yeah I said she's nothing but cutscenes you dense retard.
Cutscenes are not gameplay you deranged LUNAtic.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.19_[2016.04.04_02.22.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CTYycsF.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.19 [2016.04.04 02.22.02]")
>>333054339
>The article that restricts her role to cutscenes,
No, the article is saying she has a prominent role in Kingsglaive, not that she is not going to be shown fighting, it says she does not join OUR party, because we already know it's Noctis who joins hers, and AGAIN WE HAVE ALREADY FUCKING SEEN HER SHOWING DOWN AGAINST THE LEVIATHAN WITH HER TRIDENT THUS PROVING SHE DOES HAVE A COMBAT ROLE YOU FUCK
>>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
This says nothing of value, Luna was never playable or ever stated to be, and he is saying she does not join OUR party, because we already know it's Noctis who joins HER
Fuck sake you dipshits can't read basic English, even the fucking trailer proves you wrong yet you are still in denial.
>>333054706
>>Actually he says you won't even SEE her fight
In gameplay you mong. You're just mincing words how you see fit.
>>333054610
So you really are in denial and desperate.
>>333054695
Dude did you not even read the article? He said "YOUR PAL", as in OUR PARTY, fucking idiot, she is not "OUR PAL" because she is not in "OUR PARTY", she does not join our party because it's Noctis who joins HER
Why the fuck can't you comprehend this simple fact?
>>333054874
She's nothing but a movie tie-in.
She'll only be active in cutscenes.
Deal with it.
>>333054874
How in the hell do you join her party but you don't fight alongside her, you still haven't explained this.
>>333054831
>you deranged LUNAtic
>>333054831
No you then said "ACTUALLY WE WON"T EVEN SEE HER FIGHT"
You literally said we won't even SEE her fight, in any capacity.
Stop fucking backpedaling, you were proven wrong already, Luna already is confirmed to have a combat role, she fights with her Trident and it is Noctis who joins HER party, she does not join OURS
>>333055024
>it's Noctis who joins HER
In cutscenes maybe. But he says she has zero role in gameplay.
See >>333052312
>>333055196
>ACTUALLY WE WON"T EVEN SEE HER FIGH
Again, in terms of gameplay.
Keep it up though. Actually wait, you can't. Over 500 mark.
See you next thread if you haven't killed yourself by then.
>>333055083
The explanation is that you don't, Tabata was full of shit.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.19_[2016.04.04_02.28.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lpvVOfB.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.19 [2016.04.04 02.28.16]")
>>333055025
Sorry but already confirmed it's Noctis who joins her party and that she fights with a Trident, keep backpedaling thought
>>333054950
No, that flat out said "wont even SEE her fight", as a total statement, this was already proven wrong thus your entire bullshit logic has been shattered.
>>333055083
Because It's not her joining OUR party, it's your joining HERS
That statement about her being not playable was about her being in OUR PARTY, him saying she is NOT in our party and that she doesn't fight with OUR party
He is only reiterating that she does not join OUR party, and that we already know it's Noctis who joins HERs
>>333055402
You know you don't have to post the same picture over and over again right?
>>333055265
Wrong, Noctis joins her party, she was never once stated to join our party or be playable, nothing Tabata is saying now contradicts what he said before, you are literally autistic.
>>333055557
He needs to convince himself that that cutscene is gameplay.
>>333055627
>she was never once stated to join our party
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/luna-shows-up-as-a-guest-party-member-in-final-fantasy-xv/
Oops..
>>333055535
That's not what I was asking fucko, if you join her party instead of the other way around that still doesn't explain how it was stated that you don't fight alongside her.
![final_fantasy_xv_-_event_trailer_-_full_length_-_all_plat_-_rev_-_3-28-2016_-_1080_-_hd.mov_snapshot_00.19_[2016.04.04_02.31.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vhQsOie.jpg "final fantasy xv - event trailer - full length - all plat - rev - 3-28-2016 - 1080 - hd.mov snapshot 00.19 [2016.04.04 02.31.48]")
>>333055363
>Again, in terms of gameplay.
Nope, you said flat out "Actually we won't even SEE her fight", you are not literally backpedaling and your entire logic was shattered.
She has her own party and it's Noctis who joins her, she does not join our party and was never stated to
>>333055714
So again you literally can't fucking read because THAT LITERALLY FUCKING SAID SHE DOES NOT JOIN OUR PARTY BUT IT IS NOCTIS WHO JOINS HER PARTY
HOLY FUCK YOU ARE BEYOND AUTISTIC.
>>333055724
Because the initial statement was specifically in regards to answering that she is not playable, in reference to being in OUR party, he is saying she doesn't fight alongside OUR party, because she does not join OUR party
It is NOCTIS WHO JOINS HER PARTY
FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>333055830
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member
Fast forward to a few days ago.
>14. You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
>>333055935
>It is NOCTIS WHO JOINS HER PARTY
She doesn't have a party anymore brah. She's nothing but a movie tie-in who is only physically active in cutscenes.
>people blame the developer for how the game looks on a console
Is /v/ retarded or what? The developer is not responsible for the shitty hardware in the console.
>neo-/v/
>WOW DOWNGRADE WHY DOESN'T THE CONSOLE VERSION LOOK LIKE THE TRAILERS WHERE THEY'RE USING UNCOMPRESSED ASSETS
>>333055971
SO YOU CAN'T FUCKING READ
>Tabata did mention that we will see Luna fight – her battle will be as a guest party member. But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
>But unlike Cor joining your battle, you will actually join hers at some point in the game.
NOCTIS JOINS HER PARTY, SHE DOES NOT JOIN OUR PARTY
YOU ARE PROVEN FUCKING WRONG FROM YOUR OWN LINK
THE ARTICLE FORM 2 DAYS AGO LITERLALY FUCKING SAYS SHE DOES NOT JOIN OUR PARTY, JUST AS TABATA FLAT OUT SAID SO BACK AT TGS LAST YEAR, BECAUSE IT IS NOCTIS WHO JOINS LUNA, NOT LUNA WHO JOINS OUR PARTY
FUCKING DICK HEAD LEARN TO READ
>>333055935
>he is saying she doesn't fight alongside OUR party
It says YOU will not fight alongside HER, that still contradicts YOU joining HER party.
>>333055607
New thread just for XV-kun.
Wait what?
I just realized you cant switch charactres since tabata is directory anymore??
Also they didnt even mention nomura at the event. They had a video from uematsu for fucks sake. Something smells fishy.
>>333056165
No because again that was specifically in reference to answering the question of her joining OUR party which he is saying she does not join our party or fight alongside OUR party
BECAUSE IT IS NOCTIS WHO JOINS HER FUCKING PARTY
>>333056152
>you will actually join hers at some point in the game
Which means she has a role in ingame combat.
This is from 2015.
Now this is from a few days ago.
>You will not be able to play as Luna in combat, or fight alongside her.
She's been cut from gameplay entirely. Please understand.
>>333056092
Nah, i mean console hardware isn't great, but the engine is also garbage
U4 or Fox Engine or even well optimized games in Unity run better on PS4 than this shit
You're in a big empty room with one enemy and the demo barely keeps up 30fps
>>333056219
Tabata likes fame and cinematic mediocre gameplay
Also you can already bet that the ending will be changed to be way more dramatic
>>333056271
So they said you don't fight alongside her, even though you do?
>>333056304
>She's been cut from gameplay entirely. Please understand.
No she hasn't because HE IS TALKING ABOUT HER JOINING OUR PARTY AND SAYING THAT SHE DOES NOT FIGHT ALONGSIDE OUR PARTY
BECAUSE WE ALREADY FUCKING KNOW IT'S NOCTIS WHO JOINS HER PARTY, AND WE CAN ALREADY FUCKING SEE HER FIGHTING WITH HER TRIDENT AGAINST LEVIATHAN
