>The equivalent to difficulty level settings in FFXV is a system where you can switch between different battle modes. By having this ability to switch modes, we want to make it so that both players who like action oriented, technical gameplay and also those who want to fight at a slower, more relaxed pace can all enjoy the combat in their own style. This switching system is a key part of the gameplay that we decided to introduce based on the feedback we received from the Episode Duscae demo. We will go into more detail about the system closer to the game’s launch so stay tuned for more information.
Which mode did this shitty demo belong to?
>>332883353
Both
>>332883353
Anyone else get the feeling they have no fucking idea what they're doing with the combat in this game?
>>332884119
Yeah, it's not total shit, but since Tabata took over they changed the combat system over and over again
Back in 2013 when Nomura was still working on it, it was just a slower Kingdom Hearts
>>332883353
>SE couldn't just program a fucking easy difficulty like every other game in existence
what is wrong with this company
We need more Nomura.
>>332883353
The demo has to be the casual mode because I can't conceive any way to make that any more casualized.
>>332884119
>Anyone else get the feeling they have no fucking idea what they're doing with this game?
fixed
this game is all marketing i will be amazed if it isn't another ff13
>>332883353
You really should be in the Hall of Fame bro.
>>332884354
The platinum demo's combat was really confusing. I can't really say how good it is because there was so little real combat, but it made me very sad and frustrated.
>>332885257
>this game is all marketing i will be amazed if it isn't another ff13
I doubt it. Not that the game won't be terrible, I'm sure of that, but I bet the game's problems will be pretty distinct from FFXIII's
>>332883353
Bump for vidya discussion
>>332885435
Yeah, they said it's the final combat, but they gave us a demo that is missing the party, all the abilites, all the magic except for fire and tons of weapons
It's like you'd throw Sora from KH1 without any abilites into the endgame of KH2
>>332885257
At least FF13 stuck to its guns and was unapologetic about how shit it was. I honestly expect this game to be worse, it looks like they're trying to make a game based on a checklist rather than having any real idea on where they wanted it to go in the first place.
>>332885754
The key difference being that Sora still never controlled like unresponsive dogshit at the start of the game. Its hard to build a good system off a shitty core.
>>332885754
The basic attacking and defending was really frustrating, and then the QTE-type prompts that came up were really confusing. I kept trying to like time button presses and stuff and it failed miserably. Then when I started holding the buttons down and abusing the charge slash on the big sword, I won very easily. I don't understand what they were going for. Or why.
>>332886480
You can do a lot of shit if you try, but it's not that much more effective than to just hold square when the enemy is attacking and circle to attack afterwards
I hope the full game has a lot more to offer and i hope some of the enemies are challenges, not in the sense that they to way too much damage and have way to much HP like the Behemoth in Duscae though, i want short but challenging fights like in KH
And fix the fucking the fucking framerate and frametime, it's and ARPG with parries and dodges anything that isn't at least 30 locked is unaccpetable
I watched my friend play ffxv when that one demo came out a while ago. It seemed alright, just a choppy framrate. The food when they camped looked really good.
Cuck mode
>>332883353
Both.
You could hold the button or button mash like /v/ or time combos with abilities and shit.
>>332884119
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.
Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.
Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.
I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9ONWheKGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5m8T9w7Eb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74yhOh1jzyc
>>332883353
Don't gamble on video games.
>pete rose
>>332887859
Wlel, if you mash the button, it seemed like your attack animation would just reset. That was my natural inclination and it didn't really do anything.
It's pretty obvious that if the game does allow you to have a mode where the combat actually requires skill, it's not shown off here
This demo is literally impossible to fail thanks to Carbuncle because it's supposed to be what hooks the casuals in to sell to
Honestly if they just made the harder version of the boss fight activate the harder combat mode, a lot of my complaints that aren't about framerate might be put to rest
>>332888027
Fuck off with this copypasta already
I liked the demo and can do all the shit, that doesn't change the fact that the combat is still far from perfect and the framrerate fucks it up even more
not as smooth as it was once upon time
>>332883353
>no pc version
>>332884119
Honestly the graphics and combat in FFXV seems to get more and more downgraded the more they work on it.
Like Duscae was kinda of shitty, but it was much better than this """demo""" that we've got.
I honestly expect this game to be just as bad as FFXIII.
>>332888626
>barebones combat in a tech demo
>far from perfect
gee whiz
Also I bet you're the full of shit faggot from the other thread.
>>332889948
It's most likely the engines fault, i know the PS4 isn't strong to begin with, but the Luminous engine is unoptimized as fuck and only looks and runs well on high end PCs
They need weapon skills back on a single button. Triangle for Tempest vs Lockon, hold away from target and hold circle is fucking ridiculous
>>332890238
>They need weapon skills back on a single button.
That's a terrible idea pleb.
>>332890210
I get that the PS4 has shitty hardware and that FFXV's engine is shitty too, but the fact is that Duscae 2.0 ran better and looked better than this demo, and Duscae had a bigger area with more stuff in it than any of the areas of this new demo.
Also the combat was bad in Duscae, but it wasn't this dumbed down and uninteresting.
>>332890052
I know it's a fucking demo and that lots of shit is still missing, but the copypasta gets posted every fucking time like it's a fucking gods present and you're not allowed to say anything negative against the demo otherwise people just tell you to git gud and act like the combat is the most perfect thing ever
I know it's not since i can also do all this shit and made all the other webms, it's not that hard for fucks sake
We have the demo now and that's the thing i'm judging, not the full game
And no i'm not some faggot from another thread, stop being paranoid
>>332890762
Yep, you're the same angry faggot.
What's with people complaining about it being unresponsive? I've had no problem with the combat at all. It's been a blast playing through it multiple times and discovering the secrets. The shield is a really nice touch with the parrying. Discovering the grapple escape quick time is an awesome touch to bring the combat alive
>>332890884
They're just casuals, don't worry about them.
>>332890726
Yeah, i don't get the optimization jump from Duscae to this one either
Duscae didn't looke great, but it ran at pretty much the same framerate or sometimes even better and it was a huge area with grass and sometimes 20 enemies at once
While the new one is mostly just a huge hallway with nothing going on except for one bug enemy, yet the framerate is still struggling
They said that they'll use Umbra, but i'm not tech guy so i don't know how much it will actually help, i doubt there's too much a few tweaks can do when the base engine is fucked
>>332890710
There is an excess of available buttons, there is no reason to have weapon skills tied to an input
>>332890864
Nice argument
I'm judging the demo that's it
I can do all the stuff, i know it has depth
Why am i not allowed that it's not perfect?, because it just isn't even me and the guy who made the videos admitted it
Faggots like you who just accept it like that are the reason why it has so many casual components now
But sometimes i forget i'm on /v/
>>332891472
shhh
>>332891529
Oh so you give up
I won
Okay
>>332891472
at least you're not anthony burch
>>332883353
You'll be in the Hall of Fame, one day. ;_;7
I just finished the demo. Holy shit this just killed all interest I had in this game.
>The fucking worse than bloodborne fps
>Half a fucking second input delay
>That godawful combat system
Almost fell for the hype. Seeing how bad this decade old turd makes me even more worried about Ff7 remake.
Squeenix needs to die
>>332891807
ebin
>>332888027
>extremely basic action gameplay
>impressive in any way
You are an idiot and should stop posting this crap. It just displays two things, you suck at video games since you get hit plenty of times in these videos and two the combat system is shallower than even kingdom hearts. It's embarrassing.
>>332888027
XV-kun? Is this you? Chill nigga, fact is not everyone likes the combat. I like it, since it is a FF game. If I wanna a hack n slash cuhrazee shit, I'll be playing DMC or Bayo. If I wanna KH, I'll play KH. People sometimes mislead into thinking FFXV is going the full on hack and slash when it's not. Look at ED for instance, if they're thinking SE going to re-do the combat, then they're delusional.
>>332891529
>>332890864
>>332890052
I'd really love to see you stream the game. The demo is not perfect and not in the sense that it's missing stuff that will be in the full game. it actually has flaws; the framerate, the slight input delay, the fact that the dodge rolls inv frames are not perfect because of the framerate and frametime.
The combat system has a lot of potential and the party and a few abilites and spells will already make it a lot better, but that won't help when some core systems like parry, dodges and air cancels won'twork 100% of the time because the performance is not good enough.
>>332892186
its still shit, no matter how you cut it
>>332892186
isn't that the nig nog from one of those NBC shows?
>>332883353
>tfw you will never get into the hall of fame
>Game has been in development 10 years, releases in another 5 months
>"It's just a demo, guys. They'll fix the shitty everything before it launches."
For the record, I liked Episode Duscae
>>332884119
At first I did have the same thought. But, after ED and PD, now it is clear, that the combat of ED was always going to be the combat of FFXV. But I still don't get the easy mode equal to comfy mode or whatever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk
>Pixel counts indicate that the Final Fantasy 15 Platinum Demo uses a dynamic resolution on both the Playstation 4 and Xbox One. The PS4 resolution seems to vary between 1600x900 and 1920x1080 while the Xbox One resolution seems to vary between 1344x756 and something close to 1690x950.
>>332891807
>Squeenix needs to die
Well if this game turns out to be as bad as this demo is and it flops, then your wish will be granted.
Anthony mode
>>332883353
sounds like the battle speeds in izjs i dont see the issue here
I'm usually not one to ask for a PC port but this game really needs it. The frame drops when you do a warp strike from high up, use weapon skills and parries are really bad. It just overall runs like shit. I can't imagine how bad it will be for the aftermaths of summons.
>FF15fags think this is okay
>>332892685
>I'm usually not one to ask for a PC port but this game really needs it
I agree. Although you could always buy a PS4k to run it better :^)
>>332892695
that doesn't even happen in the demo you dingus
Anthony fucking burch
>>332892695
Its so fucking bad in this demo holy shit and its fucking 1 enemy on screen. How could they release this?
This demo did more damage than good what the fuck man
>>332893065
XDDD
Dude not Anthony burch lmao
Fuck off fun hating faggots
>>332893280
It was fun at first, in it's own thread. But not after 24 hours in every thread
>>332891807
Not if XIV exists and /v/ keeps playing it and paying Yoshida.
Anthony Burch
>>332892695
I have to hold square to automatically dodge because the manual roll is so fucking shit because of the input lag
>>332893942
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.
Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.
Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.
I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9ONWheKGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5m8T9w7Eb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74yhOh1jzyc
>>332894068
How many times do you plan on posting this?
>>332893078
They probably rushed it the fuck out the door so they could release it right after the event
I wouldn't be surprised if it got patched within the next few weeks
>>332894068
reported
>final fantasy
Nah ill stick with borderlands
>>332894068
>Responds to a post about dodging
>posts videos where he gets hit several times
You really are a dumb ass
>>332888376
That's the thing, this is what I found from my 3rd time playing the demo. If you actually mash or tap it like I do, the one hand sword chain attacks resets at the 2nd swing. And dodging and weapon switch while attacking only available at the 1st and 2nd swing. If you hold the button and proceed to the third swing, you have to wait for the animation to finish. Only then dodging input is available. If you've proceed to the 4th, that's when it gets silly, you would to finish the 5th swing only after that dodging and weapon switch is available. For the 1st and 2nd swing, it is easier to input new commands because the animation is faster (swing arc is smaller), the 3rd swing have a larger swing arc with Noct having to swing his sword from the left to right all the way to his side, that's why new input is delayed till the end of animation. The 4th and 5th swing is more of a pack of animation. However, I still love the demo, clocked in at 4 hours already. I can't remember how many times I parried the I.Giant, it was glorious. Sad that I have to return the PS4 today. Would've tried finding more faults in the demo. I'm not shitting on the game, but it is far from flawless.
>>332883353
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>>332883353
why'd you lie, Pete?
>>332894068
Nigger you can post this garbage as many times as you want, it won't change the fact that this combat is shit and poorly designed.
And there's another thing you are missing:
Duscae had better and more responsive combat than this.
This shit is dumbed down garbage even when compared to the earlier demos.
Go Reds! Put Pete in the Hall!
>>332894621
Not him, but Duscae got a major patch, Platinum got rushed the fuck out
Final Fantasy XV? More like Final Fantasy XX FPS average.
>>332892186
Yo Donald when you doing standup again?
>>332895114
Final Fantasy XX? More like Final Fantasy XXX :^)
>>332890884
>What's with people complaining about it being unresponsive?
Because it takes half a second for your move to come out.
This combat will get boring 12 hours in.
>>332895664
I never understood this argument
It's FF, are you telling me that turned based combat was super exciting right up until the end every game?
I guess I have to post this agian
people haven't figured out which you can cancel out to defensive stance with great sword?
>>332883353
Here's my opinion on why XV have terrible fps, mind you that I don't have an actual game making experience, but this is just my gut feeling. Ok, the new demo, when you're in the room with huge ass books and shit and fucking coffee cans, you'll notice just how detailed that shit looks. Well, considering the demo actually takes resources from the game into the demo, don't you think when the final game is out, them tiny shit will be so detailed that it took time to actually load the damn thing into every frame. Most games doesn't even have that sort of objects detailing that XV has other than walking simulator and The Order. But, mind you, I don't have the slightest clue on how games run and made. Just sharing my opinion here.Be nice
>>/v/332894958
>That feel when even Rune Factory's battle system feels better than this, and Rune Factory battle system is barebone as fuck.
>>332896325
It does look good, but it's also an ARPG that need precise timing, so it should be at least 30fps locked
Luminous is just not a great engine, at least for now.
I really hope Umbra fixes that a little bit
>>332896387
bumper combat in YS1&2 is more fun than FF15
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 07 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.10_[2016.03.17_16.57.55].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/t50aoHh.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 07 [720p].mkv snapshot 21.10 [2016.03.17 16.57.55]")
ya know I think people are too busy spurging the shit out of today's april fools event that we cant properly talk about this
>You will never play Final Fantasy XV with Pete Rose while he gives you gambling advice
>>332883353
why does dodging suck so bad?
>>332896658
Seems like it
Megumin best girl
>>332884119
Duscae was a heap better than this.
>>332896768
Because the auto dodge is not effective enough and the manual dodge is not precise enough because of the fucked up framerate
What was the point of the demo seriously. it showed off nothing besides features of the graphical engine. i mean it looks great, weathers cool and all that but that boss fight was confusing as fuck. I went in expecting the frame rate to be garbage but it held up for the most part. im now convinced the framerate bitching is indeed from mustards.
>>332896543
Yes I do agree. But my point is, why the hell SE need to make those detailed objects in the first place. Nobody gives a fuck about that. Oh, and the amount of detail on the character is staggering. It is amazing, but the consoles are just too weak to run all of the unnecessary details they put into the game. I like that it exist, but if it's killing the performance, who gives a shit. This game screams a pc release. But still I don't think your regular pc going to run it any better than the consoles, a ultra high end pc is needed. And man, those are expensive as hell.
>>332897231
I'm a consolefag, but after all these years and the fact that's it an ARPG it needs to locked 30 at least
>>332897350
I agree but i went in expecting it to be terrible. but it really wasnt. it was jumpy here and there but nothing unplayable.
>>332897231
I don't find the frame rate drops too distracting. The only time I really felt ot is when I used armiger on the I.Giant and when it is raining. Those really chokes the CPU.
is this an mmo or what
>>332897284
>Nobody gives a fuck about that.
Yet every single thread there`s a bunch of people complaining about it looking like a PS3 game.
>>332897751
Well, it's /v/ they have to complain about something
I think it looks fine, i would rather have a good framerate if it would mean that 10 hais wouldn't move on noctis head
>>332897608
glad someone else isnt a bitching faggot. I agree that is when it spiked the most though. the particle effects look awesome but really choke it up. i wish sony springed up for a better cpu and made the ps4 $450 instead of 400...
>>332883353
Shit nigga, you're a legend!
>>332898181
And if the rumors about the PS4k are true, the GPU is 2.2x as strong but the COU only 1.3 times as strong which means it will be a huge bottleneck again
Did noone ever tell them that a good CPU is important
>>332896912
This game is going to surpass MGSV levels of disappointment followed by extreme denial.
>>332897751
I think they're actually complaining about the LOD of distance object. And It's not that people don't a fuck, it's that some items like the coffee can and books doesn't need to have that high level of detail, those small things that no one give a shit about. And my post is about those small detailed things that is eating the game's performance.
>>332898537
well some developers can bruteforce most of the games rendering through the gpu and leave minimums like physics tied to the cpu. Its just power hungry western devs and incompetent gook hacks who dont need more power, they require it just to achive their shitty artistic vision.
I know the engine itself is very capable, the engine director made a similar one last gen and at 720p, it ran great on PS3 and 360 with drops in some areas but mostly a stable 30
>>332885154
Its pretty easy, game dont lets you die at all from my experience, at least the demo. I bet you can cast auto heals by partymembers, shortly before you die.
Casual Senpai
>>332883353
Are you Burch in disguise?
>>332896912
I'm not trying to be a XV apologist or anything, but your first image wasn't even on the console. It's more of a pc generated trailer and even then the frame rates not that good if you actually see the video. But that said, the city looks dead as fuck in the demo. But that's probably just the demo though.
>>332888027
SOULS Lite at best. Combat is shitty and cluncky, and is made better in DMC or any other Platinum game
>>332892186
donglover
>>332894142
>they'll patch it
>it's only a demo
>etc
>>332899748
Well it is a demo
And they did actually patched the previous demo
Weird times
>>332899748
>Not knowing ED patch
MGSV and Bloodbourne look far better and run better than this turd
>>332900110
at least my last name isn't Lutz
>>332900110
That's what you get when you spent all your money on hair physics
>>332899872
>>332899860
Wait, for real?
I just wish there was an option to switch attack to Square and dodge to Circle. I kept hitting circle on instinct on the Giant thinking it was the Dodge button
>>332900332
Yup, they even add the a fight with the huge creature at the lake. Only after a few side quest. I think it's after prompto side quest.
>>332900332
Yeah, the last demo got a huge like 3 gb patch that improved the framerate and the combat system and added a few enemies
>>332900361
You could technically map the button yourself, but then they'll be fucked up in the menus
I hope we can remap them they
I want to press X to attack and circle to jump like in KH
>>332897231
That's the point, it was a tech demo. They said a proper gameplay focused demo with full combat will be out closer to Sep.
>>332900361
fucking this. this was the worst part. The HUD and attacking should be so simple. I dont have a problem with qte prompts for special attacks or blocks but is so inconsistent and random you never know when you need to get ready
>>332900328
This and the character models are detailed as fuck. If you actually zoomed in on Noctis’s arm and hand, it looks realistic as fuck. With veins and shit. I bet if they use XIII character model, the game will perform a lot better.
Just finished trying it out.
Once I got a handle on the combat, it was alright. The problem is that nothing was fucking explained. I realized that you couldn't dodge roll via pressing square once, and only realized that you could slightly-reliably dodge roll by double-tapping it. Once I was able to play around with the warp thing, it was fun to fight the Iron Giant, but due to the size difference + camera angle + changing framerate, it was hard to actually focus on when to dodge etc. Just generally confusing at first.
I liked the level of detail on close-up objects. Everything looked great close-up. But then you look at shit from far-away, and you realize that it doesn't look that great from afar. Kind of seems like they got all of their high-res assets, popped it into a demo, and called it a day, rather than going through and optimizing the fuck out of it so that it runs at a decent frame-rate.
Kind of makes me wish for a PC release, because this shit would look beautiful on a PC.
>>332900843
Thank fuck for that.
This is like the only vidya thread up right now kek.
>all these fucking shitters in the thread right now
you casual faggots are no better than gamefaqs, game is great and responsive if you're not garbage at video games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0
>>332900992
Wtf, i just noticed
Someone should screencap that shit
>>332900985
>Kind of makes me wish for a PC release, because this shit would look beautiful on a PC
They hinted a PC release on their Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/715587589970010112
>>332901194
OH FUCK!
>>332901194
Most people only have problems with the performance, calm down buddy
>>332900843
>They said a proper gameplay focused demo with full combat will be out closer to Sep.
Source?
>>332900992
It's the Anthony Burch threads isn't it. No wonder shitposting is slow in this XV demo thread today. Usually it extends to almost 400 posts only after then they grew tired of it. For once, XVfans got their thread to work.
>>332901358
Tabata said there would be a free demo with the whole crew.
>>332901302
Imo, it was clear that the PC release would
Most FF are already on Steam, the question with FF games is never if they release on PC, but how long after the console release
I will just wait for the upgraded PC version that will be much better
>>332901194
damn son
>>332901467
SOURCE
>>332901194
Hold on.
Where the fuck did you get those other weapons and shit? Perhaps I'm retarded and didn't explore enough, but I didn't find anything like that in my playthrough. And why is I. Giant level 15?
>>332901302
>DX11 tech is console only
>and higher tech most likely means DX12
>which means W10 exclusive
Fuck.
>>332901718
A few ATRs, he mentioned it multiple times.
>>332901467
Source you nignog.
>>332901739
He's level 15 the second time you fight him, touch the plate on the ground way at the end
>>332901739
soawning him after beating him once makes him lvl 15
weapons are up the building.
you can get weapons for babby noct too and meteorain
>>332901194
Here's my analysis of the combat (just on the one hand sword)
>>332894291
It's not that it's not responsive, but the animation sometimes freeze new input. I've yet to analyze the shuriken and shield yet though.
>>332901194
Again, the biggest problem is the performance; the framerate and frametiming is horrible
We all know you can do all that shit in the demo and that the full game will have your full party and other weapions etc.
That won't change the fact that bad framerate and frametiming will ruin some of the mechanics
Think aobut how bad the game will run if two or three of those giants are on screen while your party member also do stuff
>>332901874
ATR
He said he WANTS there to be a demo. It's not 100% proof there will be one. But I wouldn't be surprulised.
I don't know if this will turn out well. Well have to wait for indie reviews.
What's the best rpg for PS4 already? Is Star Ocean 5 out in English yet? Is Witch and the Hundred Knight good?
>linear as fuck demo has long loading screens, input lag, frame drops/timing issues, and has been downgraded to hell and back, despite being on the final engine
This doesn't bode well for the game
>>332896912
Another game where devs will get away with bullshit lies and blatant scamming. Why are people so retarded these days? They even accidentally mentioned that they used PC exclusively to make their bullshots, but "it's totally ok since everyone is doing it".
>>332901843
>>332902127
Source you fucking idiot, heresay isnt a source
>>332884119
Its ok but it lacks a FUCKING MOVE LIST so it leaves a shit first impression.
And fuck the MP limitation fuck it up the ass.
>>332901635
Hope SE port it with an actual pc-release in mind. Not a console to pc port. But having said that, if you actually wants XV to look like how it is in the trailers, I bet you'll be needing a really high-end pc to run it. Which is I'm aiming to get it. But I'll still play the console version as early as possible.
>>332896912
>its a demo!
>>332902072
the thing is that it's a fucking demo and you guys gotta stop with the
>ITS A DEMO MEME
>ITS A BETA MEME
>SONYGGERS ON DAMAGE CONTROL
it's a fucking demo nobody is going to bother optimizing that shit especially considering it's an older build. Optimizing and polishing comes at the end of a development cycle. It run pretty well for a fucking tech demo and everyone is acting like this is the final game.
>>332896912
>its yet another blue/grey blandfest
Is blue/grey this gens brown/bloom?
>>332901880
>>332901974
I didn't even notice that. Can you start from the I. Giant fight, or do you have to go through everything all over again?Guess I should of explored more.
>>332902160
I don't even want to see how bad the draw distance and LOD will be at this point in the Duscae area, there's probably no grass left
>>332883353
I wonder why they gave us the superior young Noctis gameplay for most of the demo if in the final game they're just going with the shitty unresponsive gameplay we already had since Duscae, as shown with normal Noctis at the end.
>>332902408
You have to do it all again, but you can jsut run past all enemies as small noctis
>>332898793
>jaggies everywhere
Sure, it looks awesome. Better make sure to preorder
>>332902378
Oh shut up, it's running on the final engine, is linear as fuck, and contains comparatively little detail compared to what they've claimed the final game will look like.
DONT FUCK WITH NOCTIS
>>332902551
What are you on about?
>>332902378
I know it's a demo and i know that small optimizations will be the last part of the process, but the fact that game is not running at a stable framerate in a literal hallway is not that great
I really hope it will be locked 30 which should be the minimum standart for an ARPG that relies on timed inputs
>>332902592
>it's running on the final engine
it doesn't
> is linear as fuck
all the kid noctis segments were made from scratch for demo purposes only because everyone kept asking for kid noctis.
>contains comparatively little detail compared to what they've claimed the final game will look like.
I dont doubt that the final game is going to be downgraded but like i said, this was a fucking tech demo and in no way representative of the final version.
You are full of shit.
There's definite input delay for attacking and evading. It's not really an issue in the demo because the normal enemies are weak and the iron giant can be easily cheesed. But hopefully it will be ironed in the final game. Otherwise I loved it. Looks great, has fantastic music, and without the lag the combat would be solid.
>>332900889
>veins and shit xD
MGSV had animated muscles and they used that feature ONCE
>>332901302
Why are japanese devs the only ones retarded enough to delay their PC versions only to lose sales and fresh hype.
>>332901194
>uses the warp strike
WOW YOU'RE A FUCKING BADASS
>>332902592
Judge it again when the game is finally out. Debating about ifs bears no significance either. But yeah, the new demo was not up to scratch. I can understand the complaints. Probably they are just copying and pasting the game resources here and there while making the demo.
>>332902995
My point stands you idiot. The demo has no excuse to run that badly.
And are you just going to ignore the last area that's lifted straight from the game, contains an enemy straight from the game, and combat straight from the game? This is where most issues are.
Fucking moron.
I dont get the people that say it looks great? Every screen i saw beforehand NEVER looked as bad as in the demo.
I wont judge the combat further, but this game doesnt look that good
>>332903234
PC players will be hyped for a 25 year old PS1 game, it doesn't matter when the game was released
>>332903234
Because PC market is tiny compared to consoles so they'd rather prioritize the market that actually sells large numbers.
>>332883353
macro carbuncle porn when
>>332903304
The engine should still run at a better framerate even if optimization is not final
You can use pretty much all engine and just move assets and the framerate will stay the same, it doesn't matter
It would mean that they have to optimize every room in the game, which is not how engines work
>>332903413
Technically, PC market is huge. Problem is they only play F2P crap en masse.
>>332903060
On the consoles? I've not played MGSV on consoles.
>>332903304
My main issue is with the Citadel area, which is lifted straight from the game. Its put me off the final game.
>>332902378
Haha this denial.
Just stop being a fan, and you wont get ridiculed and can enjoy the game anyway IF it delivers
>>332903413
Every multiplat sold just as much on PC as it did on consoles when released simultaneously with consoles. Just look at Skyrimjob and Fagout 4. Selling when the game is old and devoid of hype will just lead to lost sales. It's pure retardation.
>>332903597
The market of PC owners who actually but full priced games is tiny. That's the only PC market SE cares about.
>>332903620
Yep
>>332903973
>Delacruz
Oh come on that can't be a real name
>>332903916
First off, those are traditionally PC franchises. And they STILL sold better on consoles by a large amount.
>>332904046
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_la_Cruz
>>332903570
>The engine should still run at a better framerate even if optimization is not final
I've yet to play ED, so I have no say regarding their 1.5 engine. That said, PD doesn't really run that bad actually, like some of /v/ exaggerates. Only major dip I had when I was fighting the I.Giant at night while it was raining while I'm an armiger mode.
>>332903973
>The market of PC owners who actually but full priced games is tiny.
I love this "all PC gamers are pirates" meme.
>>332902271
Watch the fucking ATRs you brainless moron.
>>332904213
I never said that, faggot. Most wait for games to drop substantially in price though.
>>332904113
>traditionally
FO and TESO never sold well on PC. ego cares where it originated? Hell, FO did so badly they rewrote exactly what a FO is
>>332903726
Yeah, the city itself was epic. But once you warp higher and higher and went on to scale the horizons, only then the reality came crashing. It looks bland and empty.
>>332904113
>those are traditionally PC franchises
Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, and 4 were all massive casual dumbed down console shit compared to when their series were PC exclusive. It was the consoles that made those games popular, and PC sales scaled with the popularity just fine. There's no reason to delay the game, sell it at a discount, and sell it when the hype is dead. It's complete retardation.
>>332904221
>ask for source because the conjecture and BSing around this game is immense
>hurr watch 40 hours of some guy talking
Shut up
>>332904471
Well, consoles have shit LOD and it could also be the case that the demo has low poly models for areas you're not supposed to enter
Otherwise the demo woulddouble or triple in size
>>332904452
>PC owners who actually but full priced games is tiny
Retard, please. If the PC market is so small Steam wouldn't be as big as it is today.
>>332904213
He didnt say anything about pirates. What he means is that, pc babies are more than likely to not buy a game at full price. they have been conditioned by that fat faggot newell to only buy a game when it has a big 50%, 80% off sticker on it.
In the end its a long term vs short term game. In the short term, console sales will be huge for a month or 2, with thousands of copies sold at 60. After that, more copies start popping up in used bins or get a price cut and sales dry up. For PC the cycle is more like , console game announced for pc > shills and faggots pretend its the greatest game ever (vc, mgr, ff13) > ok launch sales from said shills and anyone else they managed to rope in > sales drop hugely > game sells nothing until a summer or winter sale
I am here.
>>332904530
It makes perfect sense. Why delay the game for the platforms it will sell on just to get the game ready for the platform it won't sell on?
>>332887859
>you can use cool combos
>when mashing the button is 100% more effective
Dominant strategy, man.
>>332904213
But not all pc users have that high end pc that is required to run AAA games beautifully. It is the easiest market to enter. But saying that, it is still hard to estimate whether just how much of the pc users can run the game properly.
>>332904778
>What he means is that, pc babies are more than likely to not buy a game at full price.
You mean PC gamers dont like being ripped off 60 bucks for a 2 hour cinematic experience? Color me shizzocked, yo.
>>332904805
>platform it won't sell on
Because it only leads to loss of sales and revenue. Don't you know how to read? I've been saying it over and over.
>delayed
>sold at a discount
>sold at a time when the hype is already gone
No shit it's not going to make as much money. But what would make more money is
>sold at release date
>sold at full price
>sold when the hype is fresh
>>332890884
Because of this
>>332901194
At-least somebody gets it. Haters love to hate. You guys can shit-post all day long but it's not gonna change the fact that this is the Final Fantasy that will surpass VII.
>>332905403
Will the car get damaged when you hit another car in the actual game?
They still didn't fix Noctis's English voice. He still sounds way too raspy.
>>332905728
No, at least i highly doubt it. You'll probably just bounce off or they'll have an invisible aura around them
>>332883353
git gud
>>332905803
Anon, I'm not saying you're a pleb for even giving the English voices a go, but I'm sure thinking it loudly.
>>332905174
Even games that release on PC at launch, such as your earlier examples Fallout and Skyrim, sold a fraction of what they did on consoles. And those are franchises with established PC fanbases. FF is a console franchise and 99% of the fanbase is on consoles.
>>332905707
Several FFs have surpassed VII already. And a few that came before it were better as well.
>>332905901
Fuck off weeb.
>>332883353
WAS IT WORTH IT PETE
>>332905356
Jesus fucking christ. Is that for real?
>>332905356
Get a new ps4. Seriously, I've never encountered that level of fps drops. I'm already playing the demo for like 5 times already.
>>332905929
>sold a fraction of what they did on consoles
No they didn't you complete buffoon. They sold the same as each console, but when both consoles combined were compared to PC no shit it seemed to sell less.
>>332902378
>a demo of the game that's supposed to sell me on the final product
>it shouldn't be indicative of the final product
>>332906108
>weeb
It's about sticking to the original. I wouldn't play The Last of Us in Japanese. I wouldn't play FFXV in English. They're made for their original language, especially in mocap and flow of dialogue. Translations HAVE to have concessions.
>>332905707
VII is just babbies first FF most people don't even remember shit past midgar except for Aeriths death
Overall 6 was way better or FFT
>>332906181
It's slowed down
>>332905929
Ant the point is it'll make even less if they delay it. Are you genuinely retarded?
>>332906256
nobody is trying to sell you on the game this demo is just fanserivce and you're obviously not a fan.
>>332906752
>this demo is just fanservice
>when fans at least want a stable framerate
>>332905707
>have legitimate complaints
>you're just a hater
Shut up
>>332906752
I'm a fan i've been following this game since the first trailer and i will buy it day1 and will love
But that doesn't mean that i will just suck it's dick all day and will just accept bad performance
>>332906625
To release the PC version at the same time as the console version they'd have to delay the console version until the PC one is ready. Nobody fucking wants that, and it also would likely lead to lower sales of the version that SE actually gives a shit about. Are you genuinely retarded? Your market is an afterthought.
I'm expecting MGS V levels of disappointment.
>>332906752
>LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU
Anon, for fucks sake, take your medicine. The demo had huge problems, the combat is shit, the game has been down graded. You knew this was coming.
>>332906365
I like XII's and FFTWotl's english voices though. It just fit with the setting
>>332906471
Wow, that sucked. But honestly I've never encountered that. The game just runs fine to me, only with occasional dips. It worsen when it's raining.
>>332907059
At least it won't be MGS2 levels of disappointment then.
>>332907168
It's running fine at that part, the video is slowed down to show iinput delay
X was the last one I truly liked. The first XV demo showed promise, but the second one feels too much like Kingdom Hearts.
I'll give it the benefit of the doubt until I play the finished game.
>>332906752
>nobody is trying to sell you on the game
>the demo literally asks you if you want to pre-order it at the end
Come on m8.
>>332907181
But MGS2 is the best MGS
>press L3 to run
>noctis runs like 5% quicker
Why
Okay guess I'll do the honors.
>NEVAR
>EVAR
MFW PKEKS are so butthurt that they've deluded themselves into thinking they have a PS4 and are currently playing the demo. Don't worry guise you'll probably get the game in a few years ;^)
Meanwhile, you can STAND BY ME while I play this masterpiece.
>>332907341
If it was your first MGS maybe.
>>332907349
>is out of breath after a few seconds
>>332907349
You can also run with O by the way. Just saying.
>>332907368
Who are you talking to?
>>332907529
you're mom
>>332907248
Ah, I see, now I get the input delay complaints. But come on, on real time those were hardly noticed. Almost every game have input delay.
>>332907368
/thread
The ones who've actually played the awesome Platinum Demo wouldn't come up with these imaginary 'issues' they seem to think that the beautiful game is having.
>MUH FPS
>MUH LAG
>MUH CAM
Me? I'm going back into the dreamscape to warp around and enjoy this technical marvel.
>>332907581
I'm sorry but my mom does not own a PC nor does she play videogames
>>332907693
>technical marvel.
man, UC4 is a technical marvel. This isn't.
>>332907529
>>332907581
Oh. My, GOD. Nichole, you`re a mom, i`m so happy for you, why did you hide that from us girl?
>Post YFW you first saw the huge majestic as fuck Dragoon as a young Noctis.
>MFW I glimpsed it during the starry moonlit night.
>>332907764
XDDD
>>332907874
What?
>>332907987
I think he means the Leviathan button.
>>332907754
implying UC4 won't get downgraded as well.
>>332907423
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still the best.
At first I really didn't like it but having another go at the combat it actually feels quite good.
The problem is the demo doesn't have skills or levels or anything to make it feel like a system, and you can't even die.
They did it as a tech demo for normies but it's pretty unsatisfying for us more experienced (I hate to use the word) gamers. If nothing else I just wish they'd release Duscae for the general fucking audience already.
>>332887072
The demo didn't give me ANY indication of how to do that shit. This game will be disappointing and frustrating.
>>332908284
I figured out how to do the aerial stuff when I read the sword's description in the inventory.
>>332908213
This. They've should've just patch ED. Instead they're doing this silly gimmick of a demo that is going under heavy scrutiny because it was rushed as hell.
>>332908284
Yeah, i really hope tehy'll add a proper tutorial
Duscae actually had one for most of the stuff you can do
But this one didn't
>>332908284
This demo was just to show how pretty the particles are, the combat was just a bonus.
>>332908412
Fuck, how did you do that? Explain it to me please.I've already returned the ps4
>>332908080
From what we see in the demo, it's very close.
>>332908608
How you read the description?
You just look to the right when you're selecting your weapons
>>332887072
>i want short but challenging fights like in KH
>>332908746
Do elaborate.Pretty please, with a sugar on top
>>332884119
I know exactly what they're doing and I like it
>>332909025
Yes, like that or Lingering Will
They have tons of health bars, but you deal enough damage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpaoh7eK9Rg
>>332907682
>on real time those were hardly noticed
Not wen you want to use the fucking roll like real action game.
bitchfit
>>332906181
>DELETE THIS
lol
Things FFXV kun told me about FFXV
>It will look as good as the Dawn trailer on release
>It will run at a solid 30FPS
>It will have intuitive and fast paced/reactionary combat
Has he killed himself? He's not even trying to damage control anymore
>>332904575
I don't remember which ATR. Not my fault you're out of the loop faggot.
I have no reason to lie about him saying he wants to deliver a full gameplay demo with all the characters.
>>332909270
That's not fair man
KH2FM is ARPG perfection and will never be topped
>>332909635
Don't forget
>FFXV IS NOT ANIME!
>>332909635
Also
>The game world will be huge with no loading screens
>>332887072
I only got the small and big sword. How do you get those other weapons, theres nothing in the inventory
>>332909286
Agree. But, dodge rolls were never in their plans actually. Only on the ED patch did they decide to put it in, after some fan feedback. The auto dodge is the best way to go.Pity
>>332909476
I've already stated I misunderstood his post you idiot. Calm down you cuck.
>>332909739
Birth By Sleep had better RPG mechanics with the command dick, but obviously KH2's revenge value system and combo potential were so buttery smooth. It's too bad the Osaka team are literally retarded and made like 3 commands the most viable in the entire game, and all the really cool high level commands lock you into 30 second animations so they're useless on critical.
>>332909025
>Literally the only challenging fight in the game that takes more than a minute
Anon, pls
>>332909882
Yeah, BBS had nice ideas but was held back by handheld hardware and horrible Osaka team balancing
Fucking non stop invincible dodge rolls that are required for some bosses
>>332909865
shiiit nigga. I was all over that place and didn't see that
>>332888027
Nah senpai, game sucks, series died when X-2 was announced. That's my two cents. Why they ever deviated from the turn-based combat they perfected (IMO), I will never know.
>>332909635
>It will look as good as the Dawn trailer on release
Typical XV-kun delusion
>It will run at a solid 30FPS
debatable since optimization is still in progress
>It will have intuitive and fast paced/reactionary combat
XV-kun delusions as well. It is on it roots, an FF game. It won't be a Dmc or a Bayo game.
>>332909798
>The game world will be huge with no loading screens
If you actually saw the border bugs ED had, you'd see that the entire world map is loaded. That's why the demo took so long to start. But again, I'm debating with ifs here.
So do people actually like the FinalFantasy games for the combat?
I never found the super simplistic turnbased combat that amazing, why is it so bad that theyre going for lockon combat instead.
The game needs an ability like glide or something like in KH
Not a glide but something that's let's you travel distances fast outside of battle where the car is not available
The demo was a really bad idea, or at the very least no combat should've been included with the demo. It's very obvious that each stage in the demo is just to show off different tech, such as day/night cycles, weather effects, physics, particles, driving etc. That's all the demo really had going for it, and by including a single real encounter at the end it turned people off from the combat. The demo should've been either pure exploration/tech-demonstration or should've expanded on the other features more.
CARBUNCLE A CUTE
>>332910134
It's not bad that they changed, but turn based was simple and worked while this one tries to be a slower and more weighy Kingdom Hearts, but kinda fails for now
Of course thef ull game will have more combat abilites and spells and your party, but you can tell that something especially timing is still not perfect
Anyone got the music in the Environmental trailer?
>>332909806
Best way to go is to warp in before an attack hits and just use aerial maneuvers to not get hit.
Fuck blocking it kills all momentum even with the shield parry.
who /Ruby/ here?
I'll need to go back and find what secrets I can get if the 'hidden weapons ontop of the building' and the locked panels in the final area are anything to go by. But honestly, the combat just felt awkwardly sluggish in a way that isn't really explained. The camera's so far away from Noctis due to trying to show the Iron Giant that I can't tell if his animations are just not finishing in time or what. Trying to combo when the Giant isn't stunned is tantamount to getting your face pushed in, though.
It feels like one of those games where you know you can do so much more but you have no idea where to begin because it feels so fucking weird.
Even if everything else goes wrong the OST will be great
How do blocking and parrying work? Are the responsive?
>>332910134
I like Final Fantasy for the adventure. I think 5, 10 and 10-2 each have a pretty good combat system though
>>332885257
> i will be amazed if it isn't another good game that only faggots dislike
Me too
Can't wait for this piece of shit to come out so they can finally release KH3 desu senpai.
>>332910447
If you have the shield equiped like in the webm you just have to press the square button at the right time
Parry changed a bit from Duscae, now it's just a random huge QTE that yuo can barelymisss since it lass forever i hope they change it
What's the point in having a parry if it's random
>>332909635 #
>>It will have intuitive and fast paced/reactionary combat
If anything this game is so fucking lenient that it confused me.
>think skills are hard to do so try timing my inputs strictly
>nahh it's just that skills don't work unlocked
>shit is so lenient that you can buffer in moves
>stay in the air all day
>>332910447
You can only block certain attacks that distinctly show a symbol for the defensive button. Otherwise it's basically a dodge roll with what feels like no i-frames if you tap it, or phasing through attacks at the cost of MP if you hold it. Apparently there's a shield that can block strikes, though, and it blocks them hard.
I don't know if there's any parry beyond the QTE one you get for hitting defend on one single specific attack of the Iron Giant's.
Anyone here seen the anime adaptation? Is it any good?
>>332910623
Is meh.
>>332910623
It's like, online, free and 12 minutes, anon, you can watch it yourself. It's not bad, but besides a little humor all you get is some slight context about Noctis sleeping, being a picky eater, and nearly having died as a kid.
>>332910623
its eh
first episode is ten minutes of nothing
>>332902768
This specific spot was made to make the viewer look at how nice the graphics are, yet the shadows are shit. How do you mess this shit up?
>>332910623
It's alright, noting special really happens
It's more of a fanservice thing, the CG movie will be way more interesting and actually important for the plot
>>332910679
I like how he brushes off the lettuce, and Ignis tells him off but he keeps doing it anyway.
noctis a cute
>>332910623
its literally 11 minutes. Watch it
All it really shows is character interaction and a smidge of a hook for the next part.
Ignis is Team Dad and Gladio is Team Mom. Do it for Papa Ignis
>>332910734
noctis aexploitative lazy bedhead
>>332910692
Or it could be like Advent Children and be a confusing trainwreck of a plot that does no justice to the game's story.
>>332910540
>>332910557
I see, so it's similar to KH2. And about the phasing, that sounds like a bad idea. Holding down buttons is always a bad mechanic, in the past it was there because there weren't enough buttons on a controller, that's not a valid excuse anymore.
>>332910825
nomura isn't directing it so no
>>332910868
Nomura had very little to do with AC outside the fight choreography though.
is it worth the download?
>movie looks darker in tone than the game
kinda worrying
I hope subsequent trailers get darker. I haven't heard Sommus in a trailer since maybe 2010-2011.
>>332910679
I think the Platinum demo is what happens while Noctis is unconcious from that attack.
>>332910834
Yeah, the shield pretty mch works like Guard in KH2, but you can also just keep holding the shield up the take less damage
The holding button to dodoge thing it weird, you can still dodge at the last second which is required since some attacks can't be auto dodged by holding the button, but for most situations holding the button is more than enough
>>332910834
This seems less 'we don't have enough buttons' and more just consolidating all defensive options into one button for the sake of user friendliness. Unfortunately it comes off as really too simple, not to mention that you barely lose any MP per dodge and regain it real quick. You can literally just stand there when an Iron Giant does six slashes in a row, and phase through all of them without worry just by holding the button down.
I get the feeling that unless enemies have some really tricky, bastardly AI or all the combat devolves into trading hits because of unreliable attack tells, this is going to be a painfully easy Final Fantasy game so long as you don't go trying to kill giant monsters recklessly.
is that the creature from that one ico game..
>>332910929
It's a small tech demo with a neat fight in the end.
If you care about the game and its hype, go for it.
>>332910947
>mfw we'll never play the attack on the city like in the FFV13 trailers
The secret hammer for chibi Noct is great.
Meteorain spell OP as fuck. I love it.
>>332911000
I've never been huge into final fantasy, but I own a PS4 and I need fucking games for the thing, so if it comes out and it's good I'll probably get it, really only interested in the demo for the fight mechanics, I'll give it a shot though
>>332910973
Yes. FFXIII Versus fused with The Las Guardian, and this is the result.
>>332911056
Meteorain is so fucking OP and you can farm 99 in like 5 minutes
It does more than fucking 5k damage
>>332910929
I got like an hour of fun out of it so sure
>>332910623
Definitely shaping up to be one of the best action anime of all time.
>>332911018
I hope to get they wedge in some night combat in Lucis. Maybe upon returning or something.
>>332910971
Also don't try attacking and then dodging when the Iron Giant begins retaliating. XV seems to suffer from attack lag due to the fluid animations, so odds are your combo's still ongoing and you're going to get bitchslapped with a giant sword because Noctis can't fight on a dime. They REALLY shouldn't of gone for this 'ultra-detailed fluid realistic graphics' stuff, because it feels like a detriment to the core gameplay.
>>332911170
Yeah, sometimes it feels like the combat system doesn't match with the enemies moveset
Same thing happened in Duscae some enemies were way too fast to actually catch up to them
>>332911063
>I've never been huge into final fantasy
That's probably a good thing here, considering how different each new title is from the last in this series. Especially with the last few games.
>>332911247
With how sluggish Noctis is in just swinging his normal sword, sprinting around or even just fucking taking a hop off the ground, you'd think the Iron Giant would be balanced to compensate. Instead the only way you're dealing with his shit is if you're basically not doing anything else so you have time to hold the defense button, because he's faster and more lithe than you are by a large margin.
>>332911170
you do know you can cancel out of twister to defensive mode at great sword in great sword right?
you really havent played around with the movelist huh
>>332911375
>>332911170
hell look at this one take down Iron giant with broad sword just fine
>>332896030
>>332911375
i just fought it normally and then the level 15 version, haven't replayed the demo yet
but it's not like the game really tells you a movelist, and it just sort of goes "okay go fight it and do whatever"
I didn't realize there were warp points on the building, and I didn't even notice I could warp to the lampposts until the Level 15 refight when I did it by accident instead of a warp strike.
>>332910193
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.
Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.
Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.
I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9ONWheKGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5m8T9w7Eb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74yhOh1jzyc
is there a point to those crystals you pick up or are they just there to distract / direct you and make you pretend you're accomplishing something
>>332911571
I hope everyone that posts this copypasta gets autobanned soon
>>332911618
100 unlock bronze plates, 250 silver and 300 gold i think, but you can just farm them from the enemies
>>332911618
mainly for silver plate to get the shield?
>>332911675
I think the two weapons are platinum plates, which unlock after you beat the giant for the first time
>>332911375
>>332911419
That's a clash you stupid fuck it happens when you time a hit right.
The block and roll cancel fuck all wen not using the shield.
WHY DOES IT AUTO LOCK ON TO A TARGET WHEN I PRESS ATTACK
WHY IS CHANGING TARGET A BITCH IN THE ASS.
WHY CAN'T I PRACTICE MY ATTACKS WITHOUT NEEDING AN ENEMY
>>332911660
250 unlocks gold.
>>332911753
Tabata
>>332911660
So that's why there were a few locked panels in the final area, fucking hell.
>>332911753
>WHY CAN'T I PRACTICE MY ATTACKS WITHOUT NEEDING AN ENEMY
That one bugs me to hell and back.
>>332887072
>And fix the fucking the fucking framerate and frametime, it's and ARPG with parries and dodges anything that isn't at least 30 locked is unaccpetable
It's especially bad how most of the prompts are only up for like 5 frames but the game drops 4 of them
>>332911753
for directional combos
actually worka well
r3 is hard lock on
>>332909270
Is that Haley joel speaking moon?
>>332911907
You posted the wrong pic.
>>332911991
No, but he really sounds like the english voice
I really love the japanese voice of Sora the short battle quotes he says while doing combos sound great
>>332911991
it's Miyu Irino, the japanese VA
although in hindsight, their battle vocalizations are pretty close surprisingly aside from, you know, when they're actually saying things
>>332911984
Nigger DMC has directional moves and I don't need no lock to do them.
Can someone list exactly what each weapon does with each direction.
Sword -
Circle:
Circle + Up:
Circle + Down:
Circle + Left:
Circle + Right
Greatsword -
Circle:
Circle + Up: Charged attack
Circle + Down:
Circle + Left:
Circle + Right
Shuriken -
Circle:
Circle + Up:
Circle + Down:
Circle + Left:
Circle + Right
Shield -
Circle:
Circle + Up:
Circle + Down:
Circle + Left:
Circle + Right
The only one I can remember is the charged greatsword attack
>>332912305
Sword back is the teleport back>forward thing that lifts Noct up.
I think Sword forward is a stab, but that might just be a random combo opener.
>>332912305
If someone is that willing to, make a video showing each type of attack off.
>>332912305
I could take a while, but i'll try get a good video angle of all the attacks
>>332912162
This isn't DMC.
>>332912529
Cheers, post it in future XV threads if you can and label in the video each circle+direction for the attack.
Anyone else notice that the subs for the anime are completely innacurate? Like when Prompto clearly says "Igunisu, Guradio" as in he's clearly saying Ignis's and Gladio's names, but the subs say "Come on you two." I know Square has a history with shitty translations that are more than half the time just making shit up as they go along, but this is something I would expect from a lazy fan subber, not an official one.
>>332912681
And this is exactly the reason I ain't playing the game with japanese audio because it will still use the english subtitles making it irrelevant.
>>332912747
The only way to get the true experience is to learn moonspeak and watch it raw it seems. Or find a decent fansubber.
>>332912812
Well the english will be the true experience too but not as literal or boring like most japanese with their use of words.
>>332912940
I thought that was only in chinese cartoons in video games where they talk in very simple Japanese?
>>332912981
Depends on the game
I know enough japanese to watch most anime without subs, but i can't keep up with any dialouge in the Yakuza games
>>332904221
he mentioned there would be another demo after duscae, but in all likelihood he meant platinum. there was never any indication that there'd be TWO more demos
>>332894068
>you CAN do this shit
Yeah no shit, but the input lag makes it harder than usual. A "non-casual" like yourself should know it makes for an unpolished action experience.
And nah, I'd really rather play DMC or a fighting game for a good combat system than struggle against a system which is heald back by itself.
>>332913178
It's not input lag, it's just realistic animation movements
>>332913249
But it's a videogame, it should be fun over realism when it comes to ARPGs
>>332913360
Fun is subjective :^)
>>332913249
>realistic animation movements
Nah son
>>332911467
>>332890210
To be fair all next-gen engines are garbage. The most optimized game engine imho is the Fox Engine, and fucking Konami won't anything with it.
>>332913360
If it is fast and floaty, people will complain that it isn't realistic
If it is realitic, people will complain that it is slow
Conclusion, people will complain
>>332913423
It's just like FFXIV 1.0 movement, wow.
>>332913479
Unreal desu senpai.
>>332913529
But that input lag tho.
>>332913597
Hardly noticeable when on real time. I'm more pissed that some animation locks input until it finishes.
I'm more concerned about the content
hey're either really good at not showing spoilers or this game will have almost no summons and enemies at all
>>332914420
Summons confirmed. But mobs variety is still unknown. Even ED actually hinted that they're actually trying to find the Titan summon.
So in the final game, will I be able to control my full party or do I get to only play as Noctis?
Was there any announcement regarding to this
>>332884119
Well, it's a Final Fantasy game, so combat is on the bottom of their list.
They're doing just enough to get it to look cool and like it's not their 50 year old JRPG formula to sucker normals into it.
>>332915608
Apparently your main party will consist of Noctis, a crocodile, a giraffe and a giant Ox; and yes, you will be able to play as them.
>>332884354
Tabata better not force that shitty slot system gimmick in again. You know the one.
>>332915648
That's what all the people trying to hard to defend it do not understand
Yes, the combat has some depth and will have more in the final game, but it will never be as deep as they make it out to be, since it's a FF and has to appeal to all groups of players
>>332884467
FF has never had difficulty levels and most great games don't have them either
>>332912305
do the different attacks have purpose or is it all cosmetic?
>>332916169
Some do more damage and ahve more stun value, most of them just look flashy
>>332912305
I'm recording the stuff right now, but it's annoying as fuck since the only way to properly keep the Giant down for a few seconds is the warp strikes, but after that you have to get to his back first to get a good camera angle
I wish there were some goblins or anything that isn't a huge ass slow giant
>They are still changing aspects of the game mere months before release.
Don't get me wrong Square, it's great that you're listening to feedback, but this isn't "Oh we really tried to listen to fans for our next installment!" this is a game that is coming out, soon, you can't still be unsure about this shit. It's shipping.
If you don't have faith in your own decisions, how the fuck am I supposed to have it square? This is alarming.
>>332916752
Isn't Team Tokyo working on the game, the same team that made the KH2 combat system?
It's weird that they have such a hard time to make a decent combat system and need all that feedback
Yet years ago they just made the KH2 combat system out of nowhere and it's perfect
>>332911892
do japanese people really hold burgers like this?
>>332916881
Ideal for toppings loss prevention.
>>332916169
>>332916219
Some of them eat MP too.
>>332917215
Yeah, but it gets all over your hands and shit
>>332913423
>wireless controller
>fucking horrible monitor
It's not the game. I have NEVER had delay that bad in the demo.
>>332916881
Huh, you are motherfucker?
>>332918010
It's in slow mo. It's not that bad, But input delay is clearly present.
And the lengthy, smooth animation, whilst looking good, kinda makes it feel worse.
>>332892695
delete this
>>332892695
>wireless controller
>shitty monitor
>blames game
lmao I've never had input lag this bad in the demo only fractions of a second
>>332912305
Sword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Stab
Circle + Down: Backflip strike
Circle + Left: Left spin strike
Circle + Right: Right spin strike
Air Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Air + Down: Downwards strike
Triangle: Warp strike
Greatsword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
: Charge up strike
Shuriken -
Circle: Combo (hold=fast combo, tap=slow combo)
Circle + Up: -
Circle + Down: Early combo finisher
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
Air + Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Traingle: Warp strike (multiple hits)
Shield -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Slow spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right -
Circle, pause, hold circle (Circle, back step, hold circle): Forward charge (works mid range)
Square (hold): Keep shield up, take less damage
Square (at impact of attack): stuns enemy shortly, prevents taking damage
>>332883353
so is this demo free or not?
>>332921560
yes
>>332907059
underrated kek
>>332888027
Before anyone considers this posters opinion... please consider the fact he looks like this.
people that are complaining about ffxv combat are the buthurt witcher 3 fags
ffXV has one of the best combat systems in a game, its your fault for getting used to terrible clunky combat like skyrim and witcher 3 plebs
>>332888027
And now watch the other 3 or 4 of his FFXV videos where he's missing 90% of his swings and gets hit all the fucking time
>>332905356
fake webm
The controls are smooth as fuck in the demo
>>332905356
fake as fuck
the video is in slowmo but his hand swaying isn't
>>332922712
Yes it is, are you retarded?
>>332922240
stop posting pics of your ugly mug
the problem I have with the combat is that it looks amazing, but it feels horrible to play.
>>332911571
Problem is there is slight input lag, frame pacing issues and no combat tutorial. But if they iron the issues out this could be fucking amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-ANQvMkXg
>demo runs at a low, but somewhat acceptable framerate
>1 large enemy shows up
>framerate dips every now and then
>controls are sluggish
WHAT THE FUCK is going to happen in the full game when you are up against a huge boss and have particles flying around the screen and a shit ton of AI that is being computed between the 4 characters in your party?
christ let me type this again like a non-retard
>>332922758
>no it isn't
when the screen slows down his arm sway is quick, smooth and not slowed down
I've played the demo several times and have never experience input lag that bad or FPS that choppy. It's fake.
>>332922440
C'mon man. Don't start pointless fanbase war shit. It's bad enough.
And coming from a guy that actually likes the combat system, it's far from perfect, much less being the best.
>>332923618
i didn't say its perfect , but its one of the best combat systems i have ever played
and i have played alot of games not only witcher and skyrim
>>332923602
>replying to pcucks
come on man
>>332923484
You're going to hope the day 1 patch works a fucking miracle, that's what.
>>332923996
I'm not gonna hope for anything since I'm not buying it on release. I'll wait and see the reviews and opinions.
holy shit, I can't believe how my hype died so hard because of a fucking demo. . .
>>332885761
You know what, fuck you.
FFXIII is EXACTLY like the old games just that it automates some really tedious shit since the combat has to go faster. You still got all the fucking final fantasy battle tropes in there - all elements, all spells, sure some streamline status effects but in the end in means the same deal. Only difference was that you selected paradgims instead of cycling through a menu and it doesn't have to be bad thing if there is something to benefit from it (the speed and basically having the same combat as before)
FFXIII was only shit because it was a hallway and they fucking fixed that in the other games.
I just looked at the combat in FFXV - HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT IS WORSE BECAUSE IT IS NOT EVEN RPG-BATTLE, it's some really lame action-game thing that can't even compete with real action games. Fuck I'm glad I'm not buying that shit anyway.
>>332924601
>FFXIII was only shit because it was a hallway
That and it's literally a 20 hour tutorial.
>>332924601
Not him, I liked FFxiii
the only thing i disliked was the lack of puzzles and exploration for hidden weapons and summons
but the visuals the music and the combat was very good
>>332924821
>the combat was very good
>>332924918
yes it was
in the begining it was boring because the nemies were very simplistic but later it became complicated and very challenging resulting into one of the best combat systems in a final fantasy game
>>332925085
>it became complicated and very challenging
haha what
literally what
This game was a fucking breeze. Even killing the Adamantoise with just Vanille was easy as fuck.
My only complaint is the dodge button doesn't always seem to work. Maybe there's a mechanic to it that I don't understand yet.
And when you're fighting the boss, and you don't dodge, you get fucked.
>>332925236
yeah seriously the only challenging part of the game was fighting the summons and even that was because those fights were gimmicks
>>332925085
XIII combat is not fucking complicated or challenging in the least are you stupid?
>>332920046
wow thanks for this~
>>332916025
>FF never had difficulty games
Uh, lightning returns says hello
>>332925549
>>332925236
keep samefagging if you think it will work
>>332925389
uh no
did you do the extra challenge bosses?
did you even beat the final boss?
>>332925947
>oh no I don't have a response
>better call them samefags
>>332926025
>challenge bosses?
Yes. Easy.
See above.
If you found anything in XIII remotely challenging then you're shit at vidya.
>>332926143
>there are PCfags who complained about XIII being hard
>>332906120
https://youtu.be/zP2qZoKBSMM
>Tabata games
>Good combat
I expect this to play like shit just like his other games such as Type 0.
>>332883353
This game looks worse they more they show
Blunder a decade in the making?
>>332906120
The input lag is the worst at the start of the demo because of the framerate issue with all that fauna. It get better after it. It's weird. I just tested it.
>>332926943
>>332926962
why are shitposters so lazy nowadays
>>332927071
I don't even want to imagine how bad it would be if there're like 20 enemies on the screen on a huge field with grass like in the Duscae demo, but then again this one didn't run nearly as bad as some of the first area parts in this demo
>>332927196
You know what's weird? There's not input lag this bad in Duscae, and I've fought over 20 enemies at once at night, and during the day. I just kited a bunch of enemies together and a Behemoth.
I think Luminous 2.0 is just too much for consoles.
>>332927305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk
It runs pretty much the same as the new demo, if not better, yet there's grass everywhere, enemies everywhere and you have your full party
I don't know what happened to the engine or whatever they tried, but it's not great
If the game won't run at locked 30 on release this shit is a blunder
>>332926861
this guy has to be artificially slowing down the video, when I played through it the game was silky smooth and I noticed no input latency
Why does the demo have so many jaggies?
Is it because their engine truly sucks?
>>332927817
notice how his hand sway isn't slowed down
>>332927817
Well yeah
That's how these input delay videos work
You record yourself and the screen in slowmo
>>332927817
I have recorded the video and, if you read the description, you'd see it's in slow mo
it's set at 4x slower
>>332927817
No shit. It's in slow motion so you can see the delay between when he moves the joystick and when the character moves.
>>332927925
Yes, console hardware isn't great, but many other engines run fine and look good, this one is pretty much build around having flashy effects and nice renders when running on a high end PC
The engine was never meant for hardware scaling like U4 or Fox Engine
>>332927990
when my brother leaves my pc I'll record some witcher 3, as I'm sure it has even slightly worse input lag (both m+k and controller)
Pretty hyped, probably gonna be one of the best games coming out this gen
>>332927962
Fuck off already, the hands are slow in both videos, are you fucking blind
>if you want to try the combat out again you have to run around the entire demo again and collect all the shit to get the 2 other weapons
fucking bullshit
>>332927925
900p on PS4 & 720p on Xbone
>>332928161
I am actually. Thanks for reminding me asshole.
>>332883353
>they'll never let Akitoshi Kawazu touch the main FF series again
>they'll never let him put in a fun, obtuse combat system
>vita SaGa will never be released
>>332928212
I don't get why it doesn't save or rather why it deletes your save everytime and you have to start over
Something went seriously wrong with this demo, the save system is bullshit, the performance is bad, the combat is there, but they should've added a little more abilites and spells than almost nothing at all and at least goblins that spawn and not jsut one huge and the full party
>>332928271
It's 1080p on the PS4, according to pixel counters. Duscae was 900p.
>>332928212
I think they didn't realize people would want to replay it so often.
It's not too bad, just unlock the monster spawn button as chibi Noct and wreck everything with meteorain for a few minutes.
Combat and everything aside
The demo looks worse AND runs worse than Duscae
Wtf happened happened, i thought you were supposed to improve your engines optimization and not make it worse
>>332883353
I liked everything but the framerate
>>332927661
Is Ignis voiced by Balthier by any chance?
>>332928534
Yeah i think it's Gideon, i don't think the official english list of the voice cast is out, but it sounds a lot like him
>>332928534
yep
>>332888027
>The shill with the copy-pasta is back
Last time I explained why you were a fucking retard and the combat was shit, your response was "Hurr fucking durr stop expecting it to be DMC/KH!"
Nothing you posted is impressive. Nothing you posted is deep. The combat is extremely shallow and boring, get over it you fucking shill.
>>332884119
>Anyone else get the feeling they have no fucking idea what they're doing with the combat in this game?
Just everyone who actually played the game and has played more than a single action game before.
>>332928798
The worst thing is that the other FFXV videos of the guy are fucking horrible and worse than any button masher
>>332884119
No you just fucking suck
>>332883353
Get the fucking shield and shuriken you dickhead
>>332928798
>still this mad
holy fucking shit go play DMC then you tool
>>332928752
>>332928785
Noice that's what i thought.
>>332928798
>>332928931
samefag less madman
>>332929154
You're paranoid man
>>332928931
Really? I couldn't be fucked to look after I saw those three he keeps shilling. Why would anyone make a video of themselves using a basic block and parry? That's not fucking video worthy. Why would anyone make a video of them throwing a few shurikens and then using the warp after the animation is over to reset their action? That's not fucking video worthy.
>>332928994
>Still can't refute anything said
Now that you can't take the "git gud" stance since you're the biggest pleb here for thinking those videos are good, will you stop shilling with those unimpressive videos?
>DMC
I'll go with KH
>>332929154
Swing and a miss, sport.
The biggest flaw of the game is that it delayed the release of KH3
>>332910484
Did you just imply XIII was good? Because if you did, you should kill yourself.
>>332929225
Stop talking to yourself, it's weird.
>>332888027
There're already way better videos and webms out there, look the the other FFXV videos of this guy, this is what happens when you don't have a lucky perfect run that lasts a few minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbNCiVzzYw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UqiPl5laU [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYanAX2AlVU [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQLsRRMLQE [Embed]
He misses all his swings and gets hit all the fucking time
If you want to post this shit post it in combiniation with the webms or other videos
>>332927962
they are slowed down
https://youtu.be/WP7rO62tlFs
>>332884354
The combat is identical to E3 2013
Get the fucking shield and shuriken, use airstep and broadsword properly
Why does everyone have a stupid ass name ITT
>>332888027
THIS
H
I
S
>all these casuals saying that holding the attack button is just as effective as playing the game properly
m8 the level 16 Iron Giant will slap your shit if you do that, you can't die in the demo so obv you can do it in this case, but in the real game you'll at LEAST need to master aerial combat to stand a chance against bigger enemies.
>>332929719
I'm the guy who made all the webms and the fucking input guide and it's definitely different from the 2013 gameplay
And no i'm not saying the new demo is bad or anything so don't be offended right away
>>332929961
Aerial combat has no advantages though.
Atleast this game is not sexist
>>332930036
Get back to me after you master the Aerial Rave dodges and consistently chain into warpstrikes.
>>332883353
>>332884119
They had this planned ages ago. There was a leaked patent about 2 different control modes, one having a more technical control scheme featuring special moves executed by pressing "a plethora of buttons", and the other I can't remember.
They know exactly what they're doing.
>>332891807
The combat is good
Get the fucking shield and shuriken you casual faggot
>>332930154
I'd really like to see you stream the game and beat the giant with just the normal sword aerial sword
Otherwise you're jut anohter troll that lies on the internet
>>332892695
XV is nothing like that
>>332892695
Literally my biggest problem with the demo. It feels so disconnected because of this, amongst other things.
You shitters need to step your game up, makes me wanna cringe
>>332930273
That was pasta btw. I've seen the exact same post and Kojima pic 3-4 times now.
>>332893942
Get the shield you dumb cunt
>>332930360
how do you airstep away from the enemy?
>>332930360
>uses the warp strike from the building
What's impressive about this?
Seriously, activate the giant and only use your sword and it's moveset against the giant and show me how great the combat is, because you won't have those huge warp points everywhere in the world
And what if you have to fight 3 of them at once and suddenly all your MP for those churazy dodges runs out
>>332930360
>not doing the heavy sword attack and continuing the air combo.
>>332930548
Then you use the broadsword to regenerate it, it recovers MP with each strike so you can resume your air game and has a charge move to stun. Again, git gud.
>>332894621
No it isn't and no it didn't
Get the fucking shield for manual parry and perfect block
Do airstep aerial combos with aerial side step and backflip
Do broadsword attacks with different actions based on direction and charge attacks
Get the fucking shuriken
You don't know shit
>>332930682
My point still stand, what's impressive about this
You use the warp strike and then just combo down the stunned giant
>>332930751
it's not supposed to be impressive it's to show people that combat isn't just hold O the entire time
you can do a variety of things
>>332896912
Top is CGI
Bottom is a 3gb tech demo without high LOD data for the rest of the city
Are people this fucking stupid and don't realize that you're invincible in this demo and you can't die?
>>332930957
I died once. That faggot Carbuncle didn't heal me and I game overed. Same screen as Duscae except it exited me to the main menu.
>>332930686
>>332930682
>>332930441
>>332930360
>>332930273
>>332930154
Why are you so mad?
You don't have to defend the combat system as if your life depends on it
Sure you can do the combos and i can do them too, but they're just as usefull as normal ground combo cancels
You all talk like aerial combat is the only way to go which it isn't it works, but for the demos sake both works
Aerial combat would be useful against flying enemies if they even exist in the game
And there's no need to "git gud" the moves all look flashy, but are really not hard to pull off
And considering the damage they're almost not worth the effort unless you want to impress yourself
The combat still has some flaws and isn't perfect and the demo does a bad job at explaining the system and giving you options to test it
The giant is easy as fuck to beat and barealy does anything and you don't even have your party
Why didn't they make another plate that spawns a second giant or 10 soldiers
Most likely because the framerate would probably go to shit
>>332902160
This is not even part of the actual game
>>332896912
The top wasn't even in the same engine, it was in Ebony engine which was an ungodly mashup of Luminous and Crystal Tools. It was only running on PC and several things from that demo actually look worse than the version we have now (FX, hair, models, animations)
>>332906256
No it's a tech demo, not a slice of the game
>>332902592
No it isn't and this isn't even a part of the game
They outright fucking said this on stage
If you even bothered to watch the actual game footage it all looks way better than this
>>332930858
I know that, but people act way too defensive almost as if you're not allowed to use anything but sick aerial dodges
The holding circle normal combos will surely get it's use in the full game against many enemies at once and normal ground combos too
And even the normal dodge or the shield block is probably one of the best tools that the deo has to offer yet no one fucking talks about it because haha gotta go cuhrazy
I hope the game will have some 1 vs 1 human boss fights that take advantage of the shield
>>332931285
>Why didn't they make another plate that spawns a second giant
Confirmed for shitposting.
>>332931765
What? Why?
I'd actually like to fight multiple giants at once like in the 2013 trailer
>>332905356
Fake, that never happens
>>332905356
Now i know thats shitposting
>>332907076
This is a tech demo not a part of the game
I like the gameplay and graphics but the FPS drop to hard. Probably going to wait for the PC port
>>332931920
It does. You just don't notice it because you're not sensitive enough to it. That'll come when you play enough games with a fast response time.
No matter if you believe it or not. The game will feel a lot better if it responds faster.
>>332907349
You get buffs that increase run speed
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