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Dark Souls III first review: Edge - 9/10


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>From Software's upcoming action-RPG Dark Souls 3 has scored 9/10 in the first UK review.

>Reviewed in the latest issue of EDGE, the PS4 version was praised by the reviewer for its "will-sappingly difficult" boss fights and "tightly designed" areas, but was criticised for its familiarity during the opening third.

>The game's "astonishingly handsome" world also "lacks a little of the complexity of Miyazaki and From [Software] at their best", the review states, buts its boss fights are "set in beautiful arenas and soundtracked by the finest Souls music to date".

>"With Dark Souls 3, Miyazaki has ensured his studio's reputation remains intact, and delivered on our expectations," the review says, "albeit a little too closely at times."

>The review does not discuss the game's performance or its online mechanics.

>Burns criticised Dark Souls 3 over similar issues during his preview earlier this month, of course, stating that "between the familiarity and (what appears to be) re-used assets there's a huge sense of deja vu here".

>He concluded: "The genius of Miyazaki's work is how the whole comes together, the interplay between world-building and exploration, how its lore is used for dreamlike revelations rather than lucid exposition. The issue so far is that we've had this dream before. Miyazaki has the problem everyone else has. He's got to follow Bloodborne."

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/dark_souls_3/news/dark_souls_3_scores_9_10_in_first_uk_review.html

Edge gave Bloodborne a 10/10. Looks like Bloodborne is the better game.
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No it isn't
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>>332408928
Have you played either?
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PINNACLE OF THE SERIES

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO SHUT UP ALL THOSE STUPID SONYPONIES ONCE AND FOR ALL. WE CAN'T LET THEM WIN
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>>332408837
it's just bloodborne w/o a gun or sidestepping
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>Looks like Bloodborne is the better game.

du uh, of course. DS3 is even worse than DS1. Too bad that pccucks killed the franchise.
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>>332408837
>>332409004

So sad. So, so sad.
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>a reviewer says it better so it must be true!

Stop stroking reviewer dick, play the game yourself, and form your own opinion you weak-minded fuckboi.
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>>332408969
not him but i have, and i liked das3 better
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>re-used assets
I wish i could find a list of those, any ideas?
armors models, weapon models or something else?
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From software needs a different publisher.

I honestly think without bamco that dark souls trilogy would have ended up way better.
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They are still making these games?
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You think you know me
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Reviews are worthless.
Gone Home got a 10/10 everywhere, Dark Souls 2 got a 9/10 from EDGE themselves.
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DS3>DS1=BB>those other two
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Btw guys I'm waiting for the PC version to come out. I have an R7 260x double dissipation from XFX how will ds3 run?
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>>332409031
And good bosses, world design, armor design and ost
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>>332408837
>Miyazaki has the problem everyone else has. He's got to follow Bloodborne."
ROLL UP THAT DAMAGE CONTROL

at least pcucks will never ever have that problem
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>>332409259
post your ps4 with a timestamp
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Are we seriously spinning a 9/10 as a negative review? Holy kek
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DaS is still the pinacle of the series.
DeS and BB were held back by console hardware and outdated ideas.
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>>332409289
Probably playable, at least as good as the Xbox One.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqrS2rBieDM
>final boss is literally darksoulsman
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>>332409147
have you not seen the game? looks to be about 30% bloodborne repackaged. they even reuse cleric beast shrieks.
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9/10 at Edge is like a 6/10 elsewhere

PC mustards ruined the series
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>>332409147
It's mostly architectural, like stairs, pathways, some buildings, etc.
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>>332409417
get your memes right at least, the engine is the only thing it has in common with bloodborne
its a das1 sequel, the actual one unlike das2
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>>332409394
> BB held back
Why, because of framerate?
> DaS not held back

????

Dark souls was a stellar game on console as well
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>Soulscucks

Can we all agree that Kings Field and Shadow Tower are the best From titles.
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>>332409540
>the engine is the only thing it has in common with bloodborne
top kek. you're either retarded or you haven't played bloodborne.
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>>332409368
It is. See
>>332409513
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>>332409148
dark souls 3's final boss was the best way to end the series though

>>332409147
well, you go through a little bit of anor londo
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>>332409363
I'm at work cocksucker
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>>332408837
>UK review.
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>>332409417
>>332409527
that's it? not a big deal
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>>332409582
i have though, tell me what it has in common
not like it really matters, but i guess some people are triggered by pointless things
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>>332409204
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>>332408969
We all did when it was called DSII.
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>>332409691
suure
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if you don't get DS3 for PC you're a t o p c u c k
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>>332409751
>i have though
then you're retarded, assuming you aren't lying (which is an unlikely assumption to make :^))
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>>332408837
The weapon arts don't come close to expanding the movesets the way Bloodborne's weapons did. Also it amazes me how often I would see Chalice dungeon section from BB used as a template for areas. Clearly the game was rushed thanks to being developed along side BB. The reused elements in both level design (all of Latria is used) and even boss design (see nostalgia phase of final boss) shows that either Miyazaki was running out of steam, or didn't want to release a Dark Souls game with little content like Bloodborne.
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>>332409786
>Proud paperweightstation 4 owner
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>>332409909
you didnt tell me what it has in common
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>>332409394
how was DaS not held back by consoles? It released on PS3 and 360 a year before the PC.
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>>332409967
>Also it amazes me how often I would see Chalice dungeon section from BB used as a template for areas.

huh, i must have missed that
which areas are you talking about
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>>332409969
>mad liar
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>>332410036
show me a timestamp of your bloodborne copy
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>>332408837
>not 10/10
lmoa trash
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>mfw im going to play ds3 on ps4 and record footage of me playing and then watch that footage at half speed for even more immersion while pcucks get motion sickness at their beloved 60fps and less expensive game
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>>332410169
I'm not the same guy. Just pointing out you're a PScucklord.

I bet you subscribe to PSN+ every month like the dumbass you are. Gotta reap all those benefits of being a PS4 owner. lol
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I got a ps4 and a pc that could definitely handle dark souls 3, on the fence on the platform I should get it for.
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so now we know this dude is patches is there any reason not to kill him on sight?
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>>332410318
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>>332410447
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>>332408837
>He's got to follow Bloodborne.

Setting the bar pretty low there.
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>>332410441
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SPOILER THAT SHIT
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>>332409967
Bloodborne is DaS/DeS's true sequel; it's where Miyazaki and his A-team wanted to go.
DaS2 and DaS3 are just fast, soulless cashgrabs created by corporate mandate.
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>>332410441
he just stole Siegwards armor and threw him in a well
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>>332410547
where have you been the last 2 weeks?
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>>332410441
Yeah because that's later in the story and after he stole his armor.
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>>332410546
He does it pretty well considering the number of recycled assets in all his games.
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>>332409540
The first thing I noticed was how similar the game looks to bb. Simply having the same engine won't do that.
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>>332410225

not even the same guy, why dont you say what it has in common?
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>>332410604
>>332410634

can you rescue him? can I just kill him before I cross the bridge?
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>>332410225
you gonna tell me what these similarities are now?
do it or no balls
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>>332409575
>I like shit games in an attempt to seem more sophisticated
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>>332410781
we need the picture of your hand with a timestamp you newfag
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Miyazaki is the true auteur of our time.

>tfw PS4/PC owner

Feels good man
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>>332410781
That chicken scratch.
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>>332410781
>all that grease in the post it
typical sonycuck
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>>332410914
>>332410936

You two are massive douche bags
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>>332410781
well then you're actually retarded. if you can't see something so insanely obvious there's no hope for you. the architecture looks similar, the enemies are similar and there are straight copy-pasted environments straight out of hemwick.
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>>332410914
>>332410936
>>332410971
those are not similarities, i win
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>>332410781
Remind me what is the 29 month's name again?
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>>332411013
what similarities? I don't give a rats ass about your conversation with the other homo.
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>>332410781
Why are you so fucking greasy? Do you work at KFC?
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>>332410914
>buttblasted sonyggers, the post
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>>332410979
>>332411013
you don't own bloodborne
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>>332409293
>implying blood borne doesn't have good bosses, world design and ost

Get out.
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>>332411006
Can you post photos of both games pointing the similarities?
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>>332409967
>All of Latria is used

This isn't real, right?
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>>332411006

this is seriously all you have?
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>>332411123
i literally posted a picture of my copy though

>>332411006
i fail to see how those are relevant in any way, im guessing by architecture you mean anor londo, does that mean bb was actually a dark souls 1 ripoff?

>>332411097
i own a ps4 after all, of course everything around me gets greasy
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>>332411215
this, the other guy did it so its only fair you do it as well
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>>332411248
>i literally posted a picture of my copy though
but's it's fake, post a picture of your hand with a timestamp or go fuck yourself
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>>332409031
>>332409293
and interesting weapons
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>>332411220
there is a creepy dungeon area with cells and creepy guard enemies so i guess it means its a latria ripoff
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>>332409148
>From software needs a different publisher.

Yeah, Sony.

>unlimited budget
>unlimited development time
>they will market the fuck out of it

Look into your heart, you know it to be true.
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>>332411231
anybody that's played bb and das3 - and isn't retarded - will see the obvious similarities. they hit your smack in the face. if it doesn't happen with a couple of idiots on /v/ that their problem.
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>>332408928
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>>332411493
see
>>332411215
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>>332411493

not impressed at all. also, see >>332411317
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>>332411332
Yeah right.
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>>332410613
Not him but probably trying to avoid spoilers asshole. The game hasn't even come out in English yet, why ruin the experience?
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>>332409230
You want to know when I realized reviews were worthless?

When Dear Ester got universally praised.

It's a fucking walking simulator.

Dark Souls 3 will never be able to live up to my expecations. I'm a long running fan of the series, and imported Demon's Souls because I thought it wouldn't make it stateside.

I think honestly, the series is just losing it's luster. Demon's was incredible, and Dark Souls followed suit. Everything else has had some element that was lacking. Dark Souls 2 just felt off on everything from level design (mostly because of bonfire warp basically making level design worthless) to feeling floaty and bad, it also looks fucking horrible. Bloodborne was a bit of a return to form, but without the DLC it was severely lacking in content, and even with the DLC (60+20 = 80 bucks) it wasn't on the level of Dark Souls or Demon's Souls content wise.

Dark Souls 3 from the very little I've seen looks -better- but I think a lot of it isn't sitting well with me. I don't like the NPC's returning, and an absolute shitload of it looks straight up ripped from Bloodborne, not that that is really surprising.
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>>332411332
what now?
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>>332411456
Not that anon, but this is true.
/v/ wont admit it though because /v/ is mostly PC gamers
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>>332411576
stay away from dark souls 3 threads then. Also you can get the game in English on Xbone or if you are an epic may may streamer.
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>>332411819

haha pranked you
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>>332411546
I'm not gonna post a photo for some retarded neckbeard on /v/. just open your eyes and play the game.
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>>332411819
with your face faggot.
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>>332411640
>Demons was incredible, and Dark Souls followed suit
>Everything else has had some element that was lacking

And DeS and DaS didn't?
Fucking nostalgiafags, everytime.
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>>332411897
>I was just pretending to be retarded
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>>332411936
i won the argument then, shitposter
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>>332411819
jesus christ you pudgy fat faggot

>>332411968
lol no you didnt. you just proved that youre a fucking retard
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>>332411819
your hand is kinda fat, i am disappointed
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>>332411963

get joked on kid
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>>332411839
Or you could not be a nigger and put a spoiler warning.
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>>332411819
fake
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Who is DaS3`s final boss?
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>>332412093
you
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>>332412031
>>332412034
rood, im skinny as fuck
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>>332412093
Prowling Magus and Congregation


Pinwheel is second phase
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>>332412181
post your ugly face too pls
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>>332411948
Demon's has issues for sure, mostly by being unrefined. I replayed it and you need an absolutely disgusting amount of upgrade materials for most weapons. To upgrade a Purple Flame Shield to +10 you literally need like 100 hardstone shards, a bunch of other shit and 2 pure hardstone. World tendency and Character tendency are a bit strange and again, unrefined.

But it wouldn't be fair to judge Demon's on the same criteria. Demon's was an experiment. There was literally nothing else like it at the time. Dark Souls pretty much refined everything from Demon's -except- having a really lackluster final half with bad Lords Souls bosses and awkward levels.
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>>332408837

Well deserved.
Not every game deserves a 10/10, I guess it's just not as perfect as Bloodborne was. It's natural to assume this is because of Sony's involvement, or in this case lack there of.
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>>332411819
Oh oh oui oui le bon fromage
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>>332408837
literally doesn't matter
fucking DaS2 got all 9s and 10s from almost everyone
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>>332411936
I think the Sonygger wins the argument then.
At least he proved that he owns BB. You proved nothing.
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>>332411839
Spoiler filters exist for a reason, anon. It would not be unreasonable for people to use them
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>>332411819
now lose some weight
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>>332412058
maybe reddit is your kind of place
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>>332412406

He's fine.
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>>332411819
No face = No game
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>>332412235
>it wouldn't be fair to judge Demons on the same criteria
>"its not fair to criticize a game for its flaws because it was the first of its kind"
Fucking really? You're giving out literal pity points for a damn game.
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>>332412342
I own a PS4 as well, that's not he point.

If somebody has played BB and can't see how the video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EH3-cXIDYI
is straight up Hemwick he's got severe brain problems. Especially right at the start before going through the gate (even the birds fly off and make the same noises, just as they do in bb). That's the most obvious copy paste but it doesn't stop there. Dark Souls 3's Bloodborne-influenced aesthetic is obvious everywhere. World design, building architecture, the enemies themselves, etc. srs if you can't see it then you have severe brain problems.
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>>332412723
>I own a PS4 as well, that's not he point
How do we know that?
You may as well be lying
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>>332412857
fine faggot timestamp coming up
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>>332412320
This.

You retards act like anyone reviewing games actually has an opinion.

DaS2 got 10/10 all across the board because reviewers were trying to pander and realized they're late for the hype train.
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>>332408837

>gives it a 9/10
>it's the same fucking game DS1 and 2 was

What the fuck?
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Is it true the game is seriously fucked up? I read someone mention missing NPCs, scaling being fucked, glitches, and I even heard the xbone version was like running a different version that was easier.
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>>332408837

Since when are we supposed to side with reviewers?
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>>332412649
With the sheer amount of quality of life changes, yeah.

Being the progenitor of the series and paving the way for not only the series, but fucking clones, is huge.

But you've probably not played it so fuck yaself.
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>>332411006
Straight outta hemwick
Killing monsters wit a broomstick
Dumb witch keep running in terror
I guess she never looked in a mirror
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>>332413194
When they align with anon's agenda.
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>>332411819
Mec tes aveugle si ta pas vu que 2/3 des textures/décores sont les même que dans bb (mais ça au pire on s'en fou). Et d'après le peu que j'au vu (je veux pas trop me poiler) ça vaut aussi pour certains mobs.
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>Playing it on my Xbone
>Have BB and beat it five times
>Absolutely love BB as jt was my first souls like
>Ds3 is better.

You can't prove me wrong, because you haven't played it, faggots.

Sonypony stay mad
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>>332408837
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
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>>332413265
I have played it, and it has far more flaws than "just being a bit rough around the edges and unrefined."
What, do you want a timestamp or something?

You're letting its actual flaws fly by you because it started the series. Logic like that is beyond retarded. The flaws still exist and still hurt the experience even if it was the first one.
If a game has a bad mechanic or a bad boss, its not made better by the fact that it was the first of its kind.
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>>332409838
I preordered for ps4! :D
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>>332412959
same reason why cod gets 9/10, you cant go against it or the publishers fuck you unless your nintendo which they take points away for doing the same shit
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>>332408928
>>332408969
>>332409131
I've also played both. I prefer Bloodborne.
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Post YFW

>Bloodborne 2 comes out (exclusive to PS4)
>11/10
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Is someone playing this game on PC? Can someone say hows the optimization? Don't have a very good pc (750,X4 860k, 8GB) ... i'm scared bros...
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Bloodborne will be better from an artistic standpoint but Dark Souls 3 will be better in terms of gameplay.
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Does he realize people like the series because of the assets that are the same?

Imagine hearing a different bonfire sound in DS3. Everyone would hate it because they're used to the one they've heard forever.
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>>332414483
I think its the exact other way around.
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>>332414483
>Dark Souls 3 will be better in terms of gameplay.

Even this isn't valid. The only thing DaS3 even added is weapon arts and no one gives a fuck about those.
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>Reviews
>2016
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>>332414559
DaS3, while looking great, seems a bit too rehashed for me to be the best in terms of artistry. Bloodborne felt really fresh and original.

>>332414718
The PVP looks way better m8.
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>>332414852
>smash bros-esque clusterfuck with rainbow shades rolling all over the floor

PvP is total shit in all Souls games.
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>bloodbourne
>30 fps

i'll pass
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>>332414997
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>>332414997
Sorry you hate fun
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>>332414180
Memes aside, I really want a Bloodbone 2 and genuinely hope it happens one day, or at least a spiritual successor of sorts.
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So is dark souls 3 longer then bloodborne ?
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>>332415186
>Always loved invading in the forest for 3-way pvp chaos
>See shit like this
It's everything I could have hoped for.
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If Persona 5 and Ace Combat 7 are good, I may end bitting the bullet and buying a PS4.

Sorry, PC.
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>>332415491
Average playtime seems to be about 22 - 26 hours.
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>>332415497
B^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGww8wfyEm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfLxnRAG4ig
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>>332415186
>>332415497
Hate how they advertised SotFS using this but in the end this would never happen unless you had a red and blue invade you at the same time, or unless you manually summoned several invaders
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Who cares?
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>>332415686
>If
C'mon man.
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Before someone calls me a pcuck - I played both and Bloodborne is a little bit better

Why the fuck does /v/ care about reviews? What happened?
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>>332409131
delete this
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>>332416608
Shitposting purposes. I still remember 8.8. Those were better days.
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Does it have qt waifus ?
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>>332416783
Of course, just like bloodborne
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>>332416608
Remove this post from the thread please.
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>>332408837
>already hate DaS I&II
>hope DaS III will redeem the series by surpassing Bloodborne
>it's not even better than BB

I think I'll just wait for BB2.

At this point I'll just pirate DaSIII and use some trainer/mod to make it more like Bloodborne, making it faster, removing weight and so on.

I just hope BB2 will be on PC too
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>>332409575
we can all agree that you are a huge faggot
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>>332415764
This looks amazing, can't wait to have some pvp battles.
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>>332411392
Right after that you to an area with towers and bridges high up. Also rock gargoyles jump at you.
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>few build variety
>level design is full of dead ends everywhere
>abusable as fuck parries
>shitty health regen mechanic
>no equip load
>nothing personnel kid dodges with a fuckton of i-frames
>all those furry bosses
>chalice dungeons
>literally ripped off Lovecraft
>le sickdark aesthetic
I love the 'Bloodborne is the best Souls game' meme. Gotta justify buying that PS4 I guess.
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>>332420113
Until
>chalice dungeons
I thought you were talking about DaSIII, because that list has nothing to do with BB. Overall it's pretty weak as a bait, anon
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>reused assets

Of course they wouldn't call out a developer like bioware for this stuff though
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>>332420407
>Until chalice dungeons I thought you were talking about DaSIII

kek, same here.
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>>332420407
Bloodborne had equip load? News to me.
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>>332420113
Chalice dungeons are great you fucking casual.
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>>332420407
>b-bait
You sure showed me with those amazing arguments. Since when doesn't DaS 3 have build variety?
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>>332420623
I mean, it's not like you ever even tried the game
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Question for anons who've beaten the game.

I'm currently at the Catacombs. What % through the game am I?
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>>332420651
If you like shitty repetitive dungeon crawls, guess you'll like them.
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>>332421153
If you like shitty repetitive dungeon crawls, I guess you'll like DaSIII
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>>332420796
it doesn't, you fucking retard.
It also has shit all for armor variety, a piss-poor excuse for 'magic,' set main-hand and off-hand weapons instead of freeform wielding, 1 level of roll + the 'nothin personnel' modifier, shitty 'no skill, no risk' parries, and more. The only kind of cool thing to come out of it are runes and weapon gems, which are just alternate versions of rings and weapon upgrade paths.
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>>332421279
I mean, it's not like you ever even tried the game
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>>332408837
Scores for DaS2 were pretty much the same as well, so doesn't mean much to me.
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>>332409786
Or you know he could have a friend with a PS4 and Bloodborne.. oh wait /v/.... friends......
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>>332421210
Not enough sickdark furry beasts for you?
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>>332421279
You're in for a nasty shock when you realise half this shit applies to DaS3.
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>>332421535
>for you
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Bloodborne is the best Souls game so far.
Everything I've seen and heard about Dark Souls 3 makes me think it'll be even better than Bloodborne.
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>>332421279
>set main-hand and off-hand weapons instead of freeform wielding

Doesn't DaS3 do this now?
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>that boxart
I like Souls but what were they thinking?
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>>332421550
But that's completely wrong.
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>>332421736
No, it just doesn't have powerstance.
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how long until someone leaks one of the countless pc versions being given to anyone that asks nicely and has 10 subscribers so we can get a crack
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>>332421771
That's final boss nigga.
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>>332421870
You sure? Those Drangleic spears definitely come as a pair, as do a few other weapons.
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>>332421994
Yes I'm sure.
The weapons you are talking about simply dual-wield instead of twohand when you press pizza slice.
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>>332411006
Wont bother me since I'm not a PScuck.

It's going to be all new to me.
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>>332421771
Only Demon's Souls original cover, Dark Souls japanese cover and Bloodborne alternate cover were actually decent.

Any other Souls cover is pretty much shit
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>>332421153
I like challenging bosses and enemies, and the chalice dungeons have plenty of them.
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>>332409417
>Cleric Beast shrieks

Fun fact: it's almost like a Wilhelm Scream. Case in point, Xenoblade Chronicles X also had the exact same sound for crab monsters.
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>>332409540
Oh fuck, that's Giant Blacksmith, isn't it?
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>>332411819
Manlet hands.

You know what they say about men with small hands.
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>>332409540
F
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Reminder:

50 - Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
49 - The Witcher III
48 - Far Cry 4
47 - LittleBigPlanet 3
46 - Trials Fusion
45 - Nidhogg
44 - Fez
43 - Super Mario 3D World
42 - Journey
41 - Fire Emblem: Awakening
40 - Dead Space
39 - Dota 2
38 - Vanquish
37 - Super Mario Maker
36 - Shadow of the Colossus
35 - Halo 3
34 - Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
33 - Spelunky HD
32 - Destiny
31 - Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
30 - Kerbal Space Program
29 - Dishonored
28 - Splatoon
27 - Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
26 - Rock Band 3
25 - Skyrim
24 - Drop7
23 - Uncharted 2
22 - Ico
21 - Super Metroid
20 - Demon's Souls
19 - Advance Wars
18 - Mario Kart 8
17 - Ultra Street Fighter IV
16 - MGS V: The Phantom Pain
15 - Super Mario World
14 - Red Dead Redemption
13 - Super Mario 64
12 - Portal
11 - Bayonetta 2
10 - Minecraft
9 - Resident Evil 4
8 - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
7 - Super Mario Galaxy 2
6 - Tetris
5 - Half-Life 2
4 - Bloodborne
3 - The Last of Us
2 - GTA V
1 - Dark Souls

Edge top 50 games
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>>332421771

It's the final boss.
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>>332409131
Ive played both, BB was better to me but just because it was different I reckon, for me personally I think im done with DaS, DaS3 is the same thing youve played before, if youve grown tired of the gameplay yourself, DaS3 is nothing new and wont challenge you in any way, its simply what DaS2 shouldve been if it hadnt existed. BB was different at least, I want another BB game before I want another DaS game now, its been good but theres only so many times you can play the same game before you get tired of it.
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>>332422448
Aside from a few weird ones, that's a pretty good list of decent recently released video games for a normie site.
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>>332422527
I've been getting this vibe. Think i'll wait for the inevitable "complete" edition.
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>>332422527
Sounds amazing to me. All I really wanted was Dark souls with upgraded graphics and new areas to explore and new bosses to fight with an actually working online component.

Sounds like they did it.
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>>332422127
Dark Souls original NA/EU cover is good
Dark Souls 2 Jap cover is pretty good as well
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>>332422448
Top 50 of all time?

This cannot be with shit like Far Cry 4, Little Big Planet 3 and Fez included.
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>>332422448
That list is fucked, if for no other reason than where they placed The Witcher III
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>>332422448
>Half-Life 2
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>>332422805
I don't really consider that as good, but if you do, we should add pic related as well
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>>332422708
Thats perfectly fine m8, the game was just fine. But if people are expecting a real game changer this isnt it, its the same game youve played before in a different area, its no longer a hard game even because youve mastered the mechanics of the series.
Lots of build variety this time though, fully intend to make a few gimmick characters and run through the game. If thats your thing youll love it.
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Is it better than the abortion that DaS2 was at least?
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>>332423112
Why not?
Looks better than that
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>>332408837
>reviews
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>>332422448
Could be worse. Not bad a for 'modern' games list, but yeah those aren't the greatest games ever made, fuck no. Although Dark Souls 1 and BB are legit contenders for a space in the top 5 of all times GOATs. Honestly it's difficult to say which one is objectively better.
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>>332423707
>anonymous shitposting
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>>332422448
>Dishonored is the greatest FPS ever made
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>>332408837

Pretty much everyone who has played so far agrees that Das3 is the best souls game ever made.

Stay mad sonygger, your one exclusive just became irrelevant :^)
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>>332423918
>Dishonored
>FPS
What?
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I don't care about this consolewar crap

Is it better than Dark Souls 2? I skipped that one and I'm too lazy to go back to finish Dark Souls 1.
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>>332423926
I can concede that DaS3 might be better than BB (extremely close however it may be). That doesn't make BB irrelevant though. Game is honestly unmissable m8.
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>>332424068
Yes, arguably better than 1.
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>>332409417
Demons souls, dark souls and dark souls 2 all use the same dragon shriek. This isnt new.
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>>332424065
fine w/e
>halo 3 is the best fps ever made
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>>332408837
I am watching the DSP play through that is how desperate I am to play. Also I don't have a x bone and can't read moon runes.
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>>332424414
*Ah shit missed Destiny.

THAT'S EVEN WORSE
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>>332423926
I played both. The game is good but because its the same shit Ive played in 3 previous titles, I just cant bring myself to put it above BB. BB tried something different and was exceptional, its one of a kind, DaS3 is more of the same thing Ive played before. This isnt necassarily a bad thing but Ive played this game before I feel.
>irrelevant because another game came out
Thats just fucking puerile, is DeS irrelevant now too? Shouldnt DaS be irrelevant because of DaS2 and now DaS3? All the games are worth playing no matter how old they are or where you pikcup in the series.
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>>332408837
I don't want to start a shitstorm or anything, but what's the actual reason they don't release the completely completed game to everyone and instead just let japan and streamers get it first?
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Cant wait shitborne discussion to die in 2 weeks.
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>>332424420
Watch DSP vs Ludwig instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Rdp2--SjQ
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>>332424836
man just watching this grinds my nerves holy shit
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>>332424836
That fucking laugh catches me off-guard every single time. How can this be real.
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>>332424836
LMAO what a shitty camera
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>>332424836
Is this that time he spent like three hours trying to beat ludwig then get pissed and give up, then claim it wasn't a ragequit? kek

its good he stopped there 2bh. he wouldnt have beaten him and even if he did kos would have driven him to suicide.
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It honestly baffles me how anyone could claim that BB without the DLC is a 10/10.

The weapon variety was awful, with samey, brown/grey weapons, the armour was pointless, the areas after amelia were mostly unfun trudges, the late game bosses are so disappointing it hurts, the chalice dungeons were tedious areas like yahar'gul, byrgenwerth, nightmare frontier, castle cainhurst, nightmare of mensis, charnel lane and forbidden woods were dragged down by shit bosses and//or unrewarding, boring and long area design.

Without the DLC BB is just kind of shit
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>>332425382
Did he not beat the DLC? Fucking kekarooni
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>>332424836
Not going to lie, this boss pushed my shit in, but I didnt have to die that many times to realize I was doing something wrong. Did he ever actually clear it?
>reviewers were complaining that they had to beat Amelia to get to the DLC, a boss that is about 3 hours into the game
>"the DLC is bad because I cant complete it"
This shit just urks me, do people want a difficult game that they can boast to have completed or do they just want to act like theyve beat a hard game that wasnt actually hard.
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>>332425382
>>332425581
>>332425638
he never beat it but he had his own ragequit video for it... but its not a ragequit because he says it wasn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umtYRc6bqoE
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>>332414180
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BB = DS3 > DS =DeS > DS2 DLC > DS2
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>>332411456
Sony would be a perfect choice.
>Every year and a half, we get an Armored Core or Soulsborne game
>2-3 years developpement time with unlimited budget and only one system to code for
I don't know what's the percentage of sales in PC/Xbone, but staying with Sony would be great for them.
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>>332425562
The game still is shit in many ways even with the DLC.

Bloodborne only good thing was the setting, everything else was either dissapointing (weapon, armor variety) or straight up bad (chalice dungeons).
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>>332425638
I can beat Ludwig reliably every time now even on NG+, feels fucking good. maybe one death tops but usually i first try him. kos' second form is still a bit iffy for me though, get close but it still feels a bit lucky rather than solid. last time i fought him he took 3 or 4 tires.
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>>332425928
If this happened I would actually buy a PS4, fuck platform wars, if the games I like are there Im going there, if Sony made From pump out games on their dime then I wouldnt complain.
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>>332410716
I read on the wiki that you can buy his armor back from Patches and rescue him.
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>>332422448
100-51:

100 - WarioWare Inc - GBA
99 - Spec Ops: The Line
98 - Papers, Please
97 - DriveClub
96 - Braid
95 - Super Hexagon
94 - Her Story
93 - Super Monkey Ball
92 - Final Fantasy XII
91 - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
90 - Katamari Damacy
89 - Animal Crossing: New Leaf
88 - Resogun
87 - Puzzle Bobble
86 - F-Zero GX
85 - The Sims 3
84 - R-Type Final
83 - Elite: Dangerous
82 - Bomberman
81 - Starcraft II
80 - Pac-Man Championship Edition
79 - BioShock
78 - CoD 4: Modern Warfare
77 - Puzzle & Dragons
76 - Tearaway
75 - League of Legends
74 - Super Meat Boy
73 - Xenoblade Chronicles
72 - Titanfall
71 - Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
70 - Left 4 Dead 2
69 - Counter-Strike Global Offensive
68 - Civilization IV
67 - Rez
66 - Battlefield 4
65 - Metroid Prime
64 - Hearthstone
63 - Castlevania SotN
62 - Limbo
61 - Towerfall: Ascension
60 - Earthbound
59 - Batman: Arkham Knight
58 - Transistor
57 - Puyo Puyo
56 - FTL Advanced Edition
55 - Persona 4 Golden
54 - Mass Effect 2
53 - Okami
52 - The Stanley Parable
51 - XCOM: Enemy Unknown

Reminder that this is the "100 greatest videogames"

People genuinely think edge is worth listening to
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>>332408837
>was praised by the reviewer for its "will-sappingly difficult" boss fights

It's funny that Dark Souls games are considered such difficult games nowadays.

I played Tomb Raider 3 for a lark for the first time in over 10 years the other day. That game is so ridiculously hard it's mindblowing. And yet, when it was reviewed back in '98, most reviewers either didn't even comment on the difficulty, or if they did, just added a one or two line sentence saying that it was a challenging game.

TLDR: Dark souls difficulty is a meme
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>>332425830
WITNESSED
>>
just beat every boss ask me anything

also where do i find the chameleon spell
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>>332426190
Can't you kill the cunt instead?
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>>332426250
Their list has a lot of good games but really? Driveclub? Battlefield 4? Arkham Knight?
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>>332426440
how much sunbro pandering is in the game
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>>332409293
Bloodbornes soundtrack is objectively better. There is literally no argument against that.
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>>332426440
Are they a good challenge?
>>
>given a 9/10 because it was like the previous souls games and was familiar
yeah that doesn't bother me
so it's really a 10/10.
Why do people freak out when a sequel is like the previous game? it'd be weird if it was completely different.
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>>332426528
barely any, the covenant is hidden away in some shitty room and i haven't even come across the praise the sun gesture at all
>>332426567
the optional bosses are harder than the main game bosses and more fun but the last boss is probably the most memorable fight
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>>332408837
EDGE are fucking hacks anyway, did you know they gave Dark souls like a 5/10 because it was 'too difficult' and then later changed their mind and awarded it a 9/10 when they saw every other reviewer praising it.

Why does anyone give a single fuck about some hipster game journalists opinion on a game anyway?

Theres probably not a single professional reviewer who knows more about the souls games than I do, not that I know a huge amount, but these hacks are shit at these games at it shows, so why should I care for thier opinion? Why should you?
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>>332426528
It's just a covenant that exists, and you can get Solaire's set one way or another, that's about it.
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>>332426250
>>332422448
I can't find a single Devil May Cry game in this list but I also see like 3 different walking simulators and oh my fucking god
>44 - Fez
>>
>9/10

What a disaster. Seriously considering cancelling my pre order now.
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>>332408837
To be honest with you familia, the trick weapons were the most interesting thing in BB, but the weapons arts and the weapons movesets in Dark 3 shit all over the weapons in Bloodborne.
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>>332426440
Best boss soul, or the one you like the most?
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anyone know where to get the chameleon spell?
dark souls 3 of course
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>>332426549
I honestly didn't enjoy the majority of bloodborne's soundtrack.

There were a few standout tracks like ludwig the holy blade, orphan of kos's first part, gerhman, ebrietas and micolash, and the higher production values were nice, but I just preferred dark souls 1, the themes resonated and came out in the fights a lot more for me.

The themes for Ornstein and smough, centipede demon, sif, gwnydolin/moonlight butterfly, ash lake, artorias, four kings, nito, pinwheel, gwyn and gaping dragon all resonated with me a lot more in the fights.

I haven't played ds3 yet, but I have listened to the soundtrack, and it's pretty great.
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>>332426967
We shall see.
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>>332421884
>leak
We've waiting since the review copies got out.
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>>332409540
I should stop coming to DaSIII threads.

F.
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>>332426989
Nameless King has the coolest armour you can get and was the most enjoyable fight in the whole game
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>>332424836

Got the DLC the day it came out and finished it many times in 2 weeks but stopped playing after that. Did they ever nerf Ludwig? Curious.
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>>332427247
he is only sleeping he will be back
r-right..?
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>>332427125
We'll i'm playing it and i can tell that it is.

They managed to make even the shittier weapons more interesting due to the weapon arts.
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>>332409540
When the moon cometh to link the fire...
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>>332427284
dont think so

from knew that the fags that would buy the dlc are true bloodborne ogs so they gave zero fucks and made it the most challenging thing they had ever made

judging from the dlc and artorias, the very best part of das3 will be the eventual dlc we get for it maybe six-nine months down the line.
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>>332422448
>Destiny
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>>332427117
I guess I just didn't like that all of dark souls 1 soundtrack was a group of people singing "HOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEE" and pitching it down and up over and over, whereas bloodborne was actual Latin words and was performed by a full orchestra.
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>>332426265
Dark souls is difficult. Difficult =/= something you can't beat. But when you beat something it's always seems easy to you. Even if you beat invisible Tetris.
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>>332408837
>He's got to follow Bloodborne."

Not difficult to do. Dark Souls was always better.
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>>332427864
>>332427117
I will add though that I love O&s, and sifs soundtrack and that they stood out as memorable among the bunch
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>>332424836
Why does everyone use that shitty slow holy blade that long into the game.
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>>332426440
how do you rank the entire series faggot

if youre a biased pcuck dont bother. please try to only rank the games you've actually played.
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>>332409147
>>332409417
Why is it literally okay for games like Mario, CoD, Asscreed, Mass Effect and many more to recycle but not Souls? Explain the logic in this.
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>>332427864
that's fair enough, and I won't deny the bb soundtrack is objectively better in terms of production, I just preferred the tracks in dark souls 1 when I'm listening to them exclusively, and as an accompaniment to the fights themselves.

Four kings theme as an example made the fight feel much, much more intense for me , which worked well with the do as much damage as you can fast method of killing the boss
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>>332408837
Sony always wins.
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>>332428081
Not really. It's a very close second.
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>>332424836
>>332425752
he's so fucking bad, and clearly never played the chalice dungeons if Ludwig made him quit
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>>332428179
Ludwig's Holy Blade is one of the single strongest PvE weapons in the game.
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>>332428212
well the game is pretty much bloodborne + dark souls 1 = Dark souls 3 so i guess dark souls 3 is probably up there as one of the best if not THE best souls game, still yet to do pvp though but there is a lot of vareity and different builds and shit you can do so hopefully that tops off my experience
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>>332428487
False
Pizza Cutter
SAW
Dildo
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>>332428487
It and whirligig are tied I'd say
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>>332411456
>>332425928
If Sony became FROM's sole publisher then you bet your ass I would finally have interest in getting a PS4. Or PS4k or whatever the fuck they're doing with it.
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>>332408837
>Edge gave Bloodborne a 10/10. Looks like Bloodborne is the easier game that also happens to be a Sony exclusive.

Perfect for pushing those PS4. Let's not pretend Sony hasn't paid for reviews before. For example TLoU.
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>>332409540
May you dream of shiny shiny, sweet prince.
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>>332428641
>>332428636

That's why I said "one of." Yeah, Whirligig is pretty nuts.
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>>332428693
Dumbfuck.
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>>332428650
Like everyone here who doesn't own one.
>Increases Sony's sales
>Increases From's sales
Bloodborne is still a major argument for the console.
Exclusivity over Dark Souls 3 would have burried the Xbone and added a lot of system sales from PC.
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>>332428693
They didn't have to for TLOU. Cinematic shooter with da feelz is exactly what vidya critics latch on to prove how the vidya art form is maturing.
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>>332409004
Souls started on PS3 faggot enjoy your no Demon's Souls and no Bloodborne.
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>>332424836
Why do people even watch this guy? This shit is just annoying.
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>>332422448
Well I now have 0 reason to not take this review seriously, this is some shit taste.
>Minecraft at 10th
>Fucking GTAV at 2nd
>Phantom Pain and Destiny anywhere in a top 50 list
Wew.
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>>332429154
>consoles hold games hostage
>you should thank them
no
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>>332429026
>Exclusivity over Dark Souls 3 would have burried the Xbone
not really, Dark Souls 3 will sell way better on PS4 anyway and real fans of the series will already own a PS4 just as they owned a PS3.
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>>332428487
It's so slow though there are much better weapons to use on that boss instead of tunneling on one.
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>>332429303
kill yourself
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>>332425562
>muh weapon viraity
>when 90% of the community would just go Hex/Ultragreatsword

The trick weapons have more variety than 10 different variations of a long sword.
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>>332424420
GhostRobo has a 60fps pc playthrough on youtube. He's kind of annoying but mostly stays quiet or says normal things
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>>332422448
>2 - gta v
>3 - the last of us
I'm not gonna read the whole list, but I bet there's fallout 3, red dead redemption and skyrim too.
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>>332429406
I agree, but this is DSP. I'm sure he just looked up what the strongest weapon was in the game back when it first came out, and has stuck with that since. There are better options, especially the new DLC weapons and the saw spear for example, but he's too dumb to try anything else unless someone tells him to because it's better.
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Ds3 will be fine for the new wave fans tho.
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>>332429549
Sorry you've missed out on half the series because you invested in the wrong platform.
>>
just standard criticisms at this point

>its the same shit again but thats all people want anyway
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>>332411018
>writing dates in an illogical order
>get shot
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>>332408837
DELETE THIS
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It was expected, Bloodborne is a masterpiece created from scratch, in a collaboration of Sony Japan studio ( goat) + Miyazaki A team. Of course it would be a masterpiece.
DS3 however is just another rehash, the same shit from the previous installments with more pandering and reused assets. You literally can't deny this.
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>>332430047
no, I missed out on one game and a spinoff that I can play at any time because I dont have platform loyalty.
the problem is that theyre tied to bad hardware. thats bad for you too even if you pretend that it doesnt bother you.
I actually even have a ps3 with demons souls on it
>wrong platform
any console is the "wrong platform"
it doesnt have freedom. it doesnt have modularity. it doesnt have upgradability. it only has very few games on it. its shit. having exclusives is holding games hostage from open platforms
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>>332430783
>it doesnt have freedom.
And Steam does? How exactly is that any more free than a platform that plays physical discs that can be resold?

It's clearly sour grapes on your part. I get it, you missed out on the highest rated game in the Souls series and it bothers you.
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>>332408837
>Miyazaki has the problem everyone else has. He's got to follow Bloodborne."
Has Miyazaki peaked with Bloodborne? Will he ever make a better game or is it his final magnum opus?
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>>332430998
>any more free than a platform that plays physical discs that can be resold?
because I can install them on an infinite number of machines. I can install them on budget pcs. I can install them on super powered pcs. I can install them on both at the same time. When I upgrade my PC my games get upgraded. My games actually are products and not accessories to a DRM machine
also
>not buying games DRM free
cuck
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>>332431239
>not buying games DRM free
How do you do that with titles that use Denuvo?
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>>332409004
Why do you people false flag so hard

It's not even funny
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>>332409004
>Implying the DS setting isn't used up
>Implying creativity and innovation are still possible without compromising core series values or changing settings
>Implying fans of Demons Souls and Bloodborne are Sony fanboys and not just non-members of the PC master race who didn't want M$'s bullshit console
>Implying "as good as the last two" doesn't make it a stellar game
Please stop posting.
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>>332431525
if you see that pic, with text like that, its hardly a false flag.

its satire.
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>>332412959
A good game is a good game

I honestly don't get why people think same-ness is an objectively bad thing. As long as the content is exciting and there's a few new additions, we'll still get plenty of fun filled hours out of it.
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>>332430998
>Steam is the only platform that sells games on PC
Console retards everyone
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>>332431650
Well now it is, b cause it's so overused.
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>>332431921
You're right, there's also Origin, UPlay, Windows 10 store, wow all such bastions of freedom.
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>>332432095
a false flag post wouldnt be so obvious.

its clearly satire.
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>>332409394
>DeS held back by hardware
>Outshined graphically by shitware like CoD and Madden
>Controls for the series tailored to consoles
>Online functionality designed around not needing to stretch the console for a compelling experience, became series calling card
>Blu-ray disc for DeS not even half full, repacks around 8 GB
>Combat system made to look and feel smooth, hard hitting and fluid, ended up phenomenal on later hardware
DeS was not held back by the PS3, the entire series was shaped by the PS3. What you're saying is like saying that booze is held back by being liquid.
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>>332422990
witcher 3 is fucking ass mate, although since far cry 4 is on the list at all, it is indeed fucked
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>>332432214
If that image wasn't posted along with it, it could be seen as a false flag.
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>>332409575
Motherfucker, say one more bad thing about Armored Core and I will unleash my full payload of guided missiles
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>>332409394
hardware retrictions are not bad, throwing everything into the mix may or may not be good.

sometimes bad ideas dont make it in cause the hardware forces elegant simplicity
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>>332409004
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>>332432359
yes
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>>332431162
Bloodborne with its dlc > Dark Souls 3

Bloodborne base game < Dark Souls 3 base game

The DLC in these games is always the best content.

Artorias of the abyss is the best content in Dark Souls 1.

The three kingdoms blow dark souls 2 out of the water.

The Old Hunters dlc is the best content in Bloodborne.

I think ds3 will follow suit.

If we're comparing base games then I think Demon's souls and Dark Souls 3 stand apart from the rest.

If we include DLC then i believe Bloodborne takes the throne.

I realize i'm responding to a shitpost but i like the idea behind it.
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>>332432242
Most awarded game of all time.
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>>332408837
>>The game's "astonishingly handsome" world also "lacks a little of the complexity of Miyazaki and From [Software] at their best", the review states, buts its boss fights are "set in beautiful arenas and soundtracked by the finest Souls music to date".
I have a very hard time imagining it will be better than Bloodborne or Demons Souls. From what I've heard only Abyss Watchers is god tier.
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>>332432579
>Bloodborne base game < Dark Souls 3 base game

we will see when metacritic gets 100 reviews anon
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>>332409004
I can't believe anyone would think a 3rd game in a series would ever be the pinnacle.
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>>332432701
I've played the game. I don't read reviews. Yes im responding to bait.
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>>332432701
well youve already lost one review with edge, pcuck
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>>332432771
Devil May Cry 3
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>>332432857
>I've played the game.
honey moon period

metacritic will decide anon. not your special "its new and shiney" and "i got the game early" feels.

seeing you respond fast means you know thier are glaring flaws anon.
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>>332433187
>seeing you respond fast means you know thier are glaring flaws anon

I just like to talk about video games. I wish shitposters would leave so we can talk about good video games.
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>>332420925
You're about 1/3 through the way unless you didn't go to the Cathedral.
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>>332433321
ds3 is good, but i doubt it will stack up to bloodborne, im sure it will be vocally shilled thru the heavens when it falls short on metacritic.
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>>332420925
you have a long way to go
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>>332408837
>ez-mode review build
>difficult

Are reviewers the worst gamers?
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>>332433535
>>332433187
>>332432701
>metacritic

How to spot a shitposter who doesn't talk about video games. Bait etc.
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>>332420113
>>no equip load
Can someone confirm this?
I love it, equip load was terribly realized in every Souls game
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>>332411640
>dear esther got universally praised

No it fucking didn't you giant baby
>"Wahh! This game reviewer didn't parrot my opinion! Shill! SHILL!"
What the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>332433535
why does everyone talk so highly of bloodborne. I haven't played it, but from what i've seen of gameplay weapons do shit damage and the pvp is looks trash due to the super quick healing. Maybe it's one of those games that plays better than it looks.
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>>332433726
Wow dark souls fans are really soft right now.

The honeymoon period must be wearing thin.

guess it isnt as good as people had hoped.

glad i have standards
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>>332433745
Equip load is still in DaS3. However, it's the DaS2 system where you get fastroll under 70% equip load and fatroll over it.
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>>332411640
>even with the DLC (60+20 = 80 bucks) it wasn't on the level of Dark Souls or Demon's Souls content wise.
>even with the DLC it wasn't on the level of Demon's Souls content wise
Is this a joke?

BB+TOH has far more content than DeS.
Less than DaS, sure. But I'm starting to think you either didn't play DeS or have severe nostalgia if you think it was brimming with content.
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>>332434196
You just keep going. Please talk about video games.
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>>332429258
>PC's should have every game ever because I say so

No.
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>>332434230
That's acceptable. DaS2 did it the best.
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>>332434136
>I haven't played it

your post should have stopped there

heres my hours, i usb save and level to the meta making diffrent builds and revert saves when i want to try something else.

people i face never get to heal more than twice as i learn thier healing patten and parry it cause i dont use 2 handed weapons
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Is my swordbro back?
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>>332408837
>Game gets 9/10 for being too similar to it's predecessors
>Other than familiarity the game is considered great
>Consolefags call this a win
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>>332429258
>consoles hold games hostage
>games that wouldn't otherwise have existed without console are being held hostage
Next you'll tell me that Sony are losing out on money by not putting BB and DeS on Steam
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>>332434487
yes. literally that. would you support certain movies only being abailable on specific brand dvd players? fuck. or books exclusive to kindle? that would be fucking retarded.
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>>332434646
>game is considered great
miyazakis greatest hits and pandering only age so well, we will see when its out for months how it fares.

Ds2 was called the greatest thing for awile but aged poorly when the honeymoon period died.
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>>332434646
>Consolefags
Shitposter, anon.

Every consolefag (other than ninty boys) can play this game alongside mustard bros.
The only people wanting it to fail are shitposters.
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>>332434804
>comparing mediums
Dumb shitposter
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>>332432771
MGS3
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>>332409004
WOAH HEY IT'S EPIC WHITE FEELZ GUY AGAIN, HOHOHOH WASN'T THIS A Remember when American men were allowed to have balls and stand up for what they believe? MAYMAY
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>>332434682
yeah, because consoles have so much selling power they have the money to back games that wouldnt exist without that money. but in a world without exclusive platform wars that money would still exist; it just wouldnt be wielded by people trying to sell overpriced and gimped media boxes
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>>332414483

BB will be better for everything aside performance and online functionality.
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How's that online subscription cost going, PSfags?
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>>332415273

The PvP peaked in DeS and has never come close since. Not even once.
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is the weapon upgrade based connectivity thing real?
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>>332435073
>but in a world without exclusive platform wars that money would still exist
Sure, and I'd have twenty four inch pythons and I'd be running a train on Rooney Mara every night but that just isn't how the world works.

Your fantasy world will never exist.
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>>332435191
As someone who jumped from 360 to PS4, pretty good.
It's cheaper than it was last gen, and sometimes I get a few games as well.
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>>332434935
its cute how much new wave souls fans love crowd pleasing features.

Bloodborne is refreshing cause it cuts alot of those out and also alienates some users with other mechanics.

Ds3 is game design by committee, focus tested.

New wave fans simply gobble that up.
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>>332434646
I'm sorry what was your point?
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>>332435457
>"New wave fans"
>Le edgy vidya hipster
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>>332435191
Pretty good, just renewed my subscription.
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>>332435457
It's cute how new wave bb fans think their game is even remotely close to the souls games in quality.

Bloodborne has terribad bosses, weapons, the multiplayer horrendous is overall a shit game.

It's literally babbies first >muh lovecraft
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>>332435191
Like a drop in an Olympic pool, cause I didn't have to spend 3000+ dollars on a "gaming rig."
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>>332435457
>Ds3 is game design by committee
How so?
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>>332435672
0/10

Literally no effort whatsoever.
Come on, anon. You know you can do better than this.
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>>332435672

>Bloodborne has terribad bosses, weapons, the multiplayer horrendous is overall a shit game.

The bosses and weapons are Best-in-series. Work a little harder.
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>>332435795
It's mimicking the tone of the post it responds to, poor grammar, badly constructed arguments etc.
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>2 weeks
My balls are seething with jealousy. It really isn't fair.
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>>332435764
funny, because I only spent $500 on mine and it runs games at ps4 graphics and 60fps
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>>332435764
>He doesn't know I spent $1400 dollars for an all-in-one personal computer and a gaming rig more superior than any console
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>>332435457

i'm sorry, what the fuck am I looking at here?
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>ITT people argue about two games neither of which they have played
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>>332435981
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>>332435819
>having this much shit taste

Top kek

In terms of bosses:

DS1>DeS>DaS2>BB

BB's weapons are all brown and gray r1 spam fests
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>>332434589
I admitted my ignorance as to why people find it appealing due to my lack of play. The rest of my post was me detailing my exposure. I'm sure there's got to be something about it that is fun.
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>>332435302
>fantasy
it exists in literally every other medium except for video games. Music, Movies, Books, etc doesnt even come close to having anything as scammy as consoles
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>>332435764
>3000+ dollars
hehe, consolebaby
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>>332436049
>r1 spam fests
welcome to all fromsoft games since 2009
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>>332435819
>The bosses and weapons are Best-in-series
I never played BB and DeS but I always thought the bosses in DaS1 and 2 were pretty shit. Are BB bosses any different? Because the only "difficulty" from those bosses comes from their gimmicks, if you don't know them, you get fucked but if you learn how to deal with them once, you will never have a problem against those bosses again.

The only legit difficult boss was Fume Knight because his second phase had retarded damage that would instakill me from full life since I played the whole game in the CoC. So learning his gimmick didn't really help.
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>>332413975
20fps ruined bloodborne
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>>332435971
>much fps
Don't you ever get tired of using that line every.single.time?

>>332435973
>superior to any console
K
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>>332436217
Found the mad consolefag
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>>332436157
BB's main game bosses are for the most part literally all shit after the first three.

The second to last boss is decent, but that's pretty much it.

The DLC is good though
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>>332436071
And not in the video game industry, the topic of which we are discussing. Yes, it's a fantasy.

What you are proposing is a major shake up of an established capitalist system, and it simple won't happen.
Like it or not, the video game market has been shaped by decades of sales and research to become what it is today. Exclusives are a part of that.

A world without them is indeed a fantasy world. Deal with it.
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>>332436217
no, I dont get tired of not bending over to companies for garbage performance and throwing money in the trash for a handful of decent exclusives
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This is all you're worth.
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>>332436409
>garbage performance
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>>332408837
Don't believe their lies.
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>>332436356
the truth is that we live in a world where developers make more money by making cross platform games than exclusive games. remember how the last few gens each console company had a few developers exclusive to them through contracts? You notice how literally ALL of them are gone? The only exclusive games are by devs literally owned by the console companies. Bloodborne is actually the only exception to this rule for the last 5 years
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>>332409004
>false-flagging and /r9k/ memeposting
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>>332436043

oh... okay, thanks.
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>>332436593
you know that thats literally still better than console performance, right? a 750ti matches/beats a ps4 just like in every game

why dont I post skyrim ps3? or every 900p xbone game? what you're posting is an anomoly that still beats consoles
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>>332436409
>WE DON'T WANT YOUR GAMES! WEs THE MASTER RACE!
>p-pls sign this petition for x game on PC
El Oh El
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>>332427247
me 2
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>>332436638
Sunset Overdrive
Dead Rising 3 (before being ported to PC)
Ryse (before being ported to PC)
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>>332436754
>750ti matches/beats a ps4 just like in every game
does a 750ti come with a blue ray drive, cpu, input device and hdmi cord?
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>>332436837
no, im saying i want the games. I want them but not tied to hardware because thats a bad way to experience games
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>>332436623
god that game wasn't worth playing more than once.
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>>332436896
no but it only costs $85

I guarantee that the price of your console and your bad pc far exceed the price of a pc that will outperform a console
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>>332436003
I play and enjoyed BB and that makes me want to play DS1 SO FUCKING GOD DAMN MUCH.
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>>332437159
But I have and need a laptop.
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Why do bloodbornefags and pcfats fight each other? Soulsborne is one family, shouldn't we get along?
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dunno why anyone would hate on playstation

its one of the biggest non dx12 platforms and helps drive the industry forward.
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>>332437329
a $500 pc + $200 chromebook/thinkpad >>> $500 laptop + $350++ console
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>>332437151
>he actually gave money to CI Games
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>>332435457
>Official beta-board for QuakeXI: Murder simulator, Quake XII: The Rage of Timmy Masters and Quake XIII: It´s hammer time.
>It´s on the "under no circumstances this technology should be sold to China" list.
>Bitchin fast3D 2000 supports neither OpenGL, nor Direct3D, nor does fit in any case known to man.
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>>332437159
>your bad pc

I only need to upgrade my gpu 670 ftw LE (low end), i have an i7-4770k and 16gb of ram, my ssd is a tad small, its a quarter of a TB but i only play star wars battlefront 2, cs go, quake and doom.

im 980ti ready.
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>>332437339
Because PCfats shitposted aggressively before release, and still do so, limiting any real bb discussion, and the BBfans who start these threads or shitpost DS threads are often the distilled ones who are a mix of sonyggery and muh lovecraft da best or just weird competitiveness with dark souls.
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>>332437443
A 500$ PC is going to have the same performance as a 300-350$ console. And it's going to be outdated incredibly fast, compared to consoles. But I don't want to start this shit now.
You need to pay much more than that if you want a reliable gaming PC.
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>>332437443
Mac + 2 $350+ consoles > $500 pc + $200 shitty botnet book


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>>332437906
no it wont you fucking tech illiterate. a $200 960 or 380 will get 2x the performance of any console. You can easily build a $500 rig around that
>>332437923
thats called wasting money anon, but more power to you
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>>332437339
Because Bloodborne is garbage, and all the relevant souls game are on PC.
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>>332438067
>$500 rig with a $200 video card
How does that work?
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>>332438263
demon's souls is on pc?
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>>332438263
So the highest rated and 3rd highest rated games in the series are not relevant, got it.
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>>332438343
Demons Souls is completely irrelevant.

Both Dark 1 and 3 are better in every way.
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>>332438560
>metacritic score
>ever relevant
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>>332438721
>your opinion
>ever relevant
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>>332438560
>Muh game critics
>Muh game journalists

They also gave Dark Souls 2 a higher score than Demons Souls and Dark 1, you retarded sonygger.
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>>332437797
replying to myself, here is my "bad pc"


id open it, but i got my ig88 into a great pose and i dont want to move him.

its a micro atx build, no see thru reddit meme case shit
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>>332438721
So what is relevant, sales? Your special mustard opinion based on only being able to play half of the entire series?
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>>332432359
Thus the image. What's your point?
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>>332438343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhCVRLi2qdk

SOON!

http://rpcs3.net/
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>>332438649
(you)
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>>332438859
its satire
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>>332438317
by not being retarded
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/trQFFT

GTA V, Witcher 3 1080p 6fps guaranteed
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>>332438970
Name one thing that DeS did better than DaS1 and DaS3.

I'll wait.
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>>332439063
making both "undead" and living forms more diverse in a world building/gameplay sense.
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>>332438989
No peripherals, no Windows, kek anon what am I supposed to do with that?

>GTA V, Witcher 3 1080p 6fps guaranteed
Nice, only 1/5th as well as it runs on the PS4
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>>332439221
>making both "undead" and living forms more diverse in a world building/gameplay sense.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Thanks for proving my point sonygger
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>>332439327
>$350 console
>no ps+
>no games!
>no tv!

kb+m is $15. You have a television and already own a controller. WIndows 7 is free. Dont be fucking retarded. We can run through your proven false uninformed mental loopholes all day.
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>>332439327
bait
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>>332439458
>What the fuck are you talking about?

soul form does more damage, but low hp unless you use the cling ring.

human form you have more HP and have ring slot that doesnt need the cling ring.
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>>332439674
oh and you are also more stealth in soul form.
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>>332439674
>>332439808
these guys made >>332439458
look stupid
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>>332436049

>Still being retarded.

BB bosses have multiple phases, can't get 1-shot, have multiple avenues of victory (weak-point stagger, parry, slash, BSes), and employ game mechanics properly.

Dark Souls bosses have often paltry HP, single phases, and either outright ignore mechanics (BSes) or get broken by them (see: Gwyn).

Also, all the games let you mash R1. The only difference is BB gives you other buttons to use and Dark Souls doesn't. Dark Souls great weapon movesets are so bad that they're exclusively not worth using 1-handed.
Also, BB weapons have great gimmicks that make them unique (Boomhammer and Stake are the modal, unique options from Parasite/Claw complete with unique movement options).
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>>332436338

Compare this to Dark Souls where literally none of the bosses are good.
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>>332440571
ds1 has 3 good bosses tbH

kalameet is amazing

BB has about 3 BAD bosses in the main game

(witch of h lane, emesarry and wet nurse)

more if you count some of the chalice fodder like the pig n silver beast, but fire dog, giants and bloodletting make up for those.

dlc has 1 bad boss. maria.
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>>332409147
well there are a lot of "mini bosses" that call back to AI/movesets of previous bosses. There's an enemy that behaves basically like Ludwig, an enemy that behaves like blood starved beast, etc. That's really about it and I'd call it "fan service" instead of "re-used assets".
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>>332441083
oh and I am aware that emasarry was suppost to be a joke boss, still a bad boss lol
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>>332440479
BB bosses are largely shitty boring damage sponges who can be parried to death or spammed with r1 attacks

Plus, most of them are samey coloured or have shit like minions ruining them, they all merge into a giant pile of shit.

Excluding the DLC of course.

Dark Souls bosses are pretty much all classic, fresh, fun, fair and challenging to the uninitiated, while being satisfying to the experienced.
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>>332441214
>boring damage sponges who can be parried to death or spammed with r1 attacks
ds1 is the exact same.

I don't think you are putting too much thought into your post, im convinced you are trolling.


old hero in demons souls is a more compelling boss than 90% of ds1 bosses
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>>332441214
I'm having some trouble with gaping dragon atm, the fucking arm keeps grabbing me
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Why are Bloodborne fans so obnoxious?
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So if i buy this game from the japanese store will it be English since lots of people are saying so?
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>>332441696
why are darksouls fans so soft?
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>>332409131
thats beautiful
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just glad there is a dev putting out games still that cause fighting/worth fighting about.

proves how talented fromsoft are
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Why do people care if bloodborne is better or dark souls 2 wasn't as good as X? Who fucking cares? The Souls franchise (and bloodborne) are absolutely fantastic games, even my least favourite of all I played for hundreds of hours, and I'm sure Dark souls 3 will be the same.
BRAND LOYALTY GET OFF MY BOARD!
(also, don't believe the shitposters, Bloodborne is brilliant.)
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>>332441696
because it's myfirstsoulsgame to tons of ps4 owners, and it's largely the only justification for their console.

I really find it hard to believe that any sane individual could find BB's base game more enjoyable than DeS or DaS, the DLC helps somewhat, but the slog from forbidden woods onwards and the chalice dungeons reduced me to tears.

Doing the content after amelia on NG+ was mind-numbingly uninteresting
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>>332408969
>people invades
>starts spamming strikes
>gets hit gets fucked
>run and heal
>i didn't heal once
>they leave when run out of blood vials

J u s t
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>>332441214

>Having retarded selective memory.
>Out-of-control confirmation bias.

You saying the bosses are iconic doesn't mean fuckall objectively. They're worse mechanically and there is no offense whatsoever; you literally smash R1 when they're not attacking. They're so squishy usually that they're done after a few fleuries. There's nothing going on there at all for an experienced player coming off Demon's Souls. Going back and replaying them is a joke because they're so 1-dimensional, I mean why bother?

Like fighting Artorias is a joke for example. What do you remember? Hit him while he's channelling and he can randomly flip up to 3 times instead of once.
Compare this to Defiled Hotdog. You have 2 moves that can one shot you but with obvious tells. You can fight in front if you want a stagger riposte, but then you have to deal with a Mich quicker frontal moveset in the later phases. Or, you can take out his legs and get some burst on him. When you take out his legs can mean a great deal if you're trying to push damage on phases.

Also, I'm not sure what "they're samey" means when there are 3 demon's that are the same boss put in the game.

What a crock of nostalgic shit.
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>>332430679
I've never been so triggered.

Bloodborne is based on Souls. It's grimdark Lovecraftian in setting, with tweaked elements, but to think it's something completely different as described here is the ramblings of a deranged mental defective.
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>>332443090
>grimdark
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>>332441083
You forgot the One Reborn, Moon Presence and arguably Micolash if you are not a meme man.
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>>332424836
There's no way this faggot isn't pretending to be retarded on purpose. Like a minute in Ludwig was on the other side of the room and DSP had like 20hp left and just walks over to him without healing. I can't believe you guys watch this nigger.
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>>332443016
>artorias

>fun and challenging with little to no cheese tactics, a fun and varied moveset with no random chip damage from clipping the boss, swings keep the player on their feet while never doing instant kill moves and giving the player enough time to adapt and heal

0/10, it's not sony

defiled watchdog:

literally just circle to his left while not locked on, and hit his back leg twice, or hit him while he's puking and never get hit

Or get him by him and die instantly!

10/10 boss design, BB does it again, bravo wasabi
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>>332443661
one reborn is objectivly better than nito, seath and bed of chaos.
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>>332409131
>>332409540
thats it, I'm leaving /v/
send help I never manage to
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>>332444004
>one reborn is objectively better than nito and seath

Genuine laughter
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>>332443843
>he's puking and never get hit

he only does this move in 2 stages of his hp bar that are short.

You can also break his face easy if you know how to space without doging
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So is weapon durability the same as das2 I hated how weapons would become useless after two hordes of enemies.
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>>332415186

>rolling rolling rolling

And people wonder why Bloodborne is their best game...
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>>332443016
>>332443843
Comparing Artorias to Watchdog is pretty bad.
Comparing Artorias to Ludwig though, thats a lot better. Or even Gehrman, since they're both humanoids.

also
>Artorias
>little to no cheese tactics
You have to be one fucking ignorant blinded nostalgiafag to actually think like this.

The fact that magic exists in the way it does in Souls makes the combat piss tier easy in comparison to BB.
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>>332444157
nito and seath are boring as fuck as is one reborn
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>>332444004
>bed of chaos
Oh yes.

>seath
If you count the "have to die lol" bullshit? Yes, if not, i would put them around the same level.

>nito
Nah, outside of dumb obligatory damage Nito fight was decent and cool looking, just wish he was a bit more aggressive.

None of the bosses you mentioned are "good" so that doesnt say much about the One Reborn though.
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>>332443843

>Artorias.
>Backpedal and block waiting for the inevitable leap or hop.
>Fight never changes.

>Crying about getting 1-shot by tells.

I share a board with scrubs... Go back to Lords of the Fallen or some shit kek.
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>>332444337
>Nito fight was decent
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>>332433745
He was referring to BB.
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>>332432647
That's TLoU silly.
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>tfw DaS3 is better than BB but due to consolewar plebs any mention of the two games together will spark a retard fight
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>>332444157
Not that anon, but One Reborn actually requires you to understand game mechanics and forces you to know what you're doing. You can't just spam it down randomly because it will fuck you up with its puke. Its very simple once you understand the mechanics (limb damage), but its still better than both Nito or Seath

Both Nito and Seath are fights where the bosses can barely even hit you.

Nito has swings that go over your head 99% of the time and half the fight is spent blocking his stupid AOE spam. Hes just a health sponge, nothing more. One of the many bosses where hugging their crotch is the optimal thing to do.

Seath is just downright retardedly simple since he gets stunned for a good while after the crystal breaks, meaning you can spam him down to 50% before he even attacks. The first attack he does is always the crystal breath and again 99% of the time it misses completely, and if it hits it does so little damage its stupid.

Not to mention shit like Dark Bead or Crystal Soul Spears exist, so there you go. Shit bosses.
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>>332444619
tw3 passed it cause "muh indie dev"
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>>332444449
It's okay though, did you use a divine weapon on your first run? I just went with what i had and aggroed all of the skeletons, it's disappointing in the sense it's supposed to be a lord boss, but if it was something like a mid boss it would be an okay add boss, better than phalanx again.
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>>332444721
First review confirms it isn't though.
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>>332444176
The tactic still applies, if you just circle around the watchdog to the left while note locking on, his head attacks will literally never hit you.

He will spam his charge attack as well, but that will never hit either, it's just general cheap design.

>>332444253
Artorias is leagues above gehrman, just by combat and challenge

>>332444350
Insant kills are better than good bosses!
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>>332444721

I feel the same but opposite after just finishing 3. Too bad really, might be time to jump ship on this shithole.
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>>332444841
Proving my point perfectly.
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>>332444857

>Quick! Move the goalposts.

I'll wait for a DaS boss that offers more than half the options a BB boss does in terms of both offense, pacing, and avenues to victory.

They're just way better. I'm sorry you're a fucking pleb that likes retard baby shit.
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>>332444724
One reborn is a shitty arena fight with a boss that literally never (NEVER) hits you besides his aoe and puke attack.

You can literally just sit there and swipe his side and he will literally never hit you other than maybe one of his legs spazzing out.

In addition, the bosses design is basically just a large brown blob in a large brown arena, he's the least threatening boss in the game.

Nito and seath both have much better designs, arenas, attacks which actually aim at the player, and feel much more entertaining.
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>>332444619
Witcher 3 has more than TLoU now actually.

Get with the times gramps.
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>>332444857
>Artorias
>3.750 health in base NG
>No different phases since he can be easily staggered out of the buff
>Small moveset in comparison
>Easily cheeseable with magic, pyromancies
>Never changes tactics

>Gehrman
>14.293 health in base NG
>2 phases before buff
>2 phases after buff
>can change stances dynamically
>hilariously large moveset with varying combos that can change with split second timings
>far larger combos in comparison
>damage is hilariously big because armor can't be upgraded and counter hits are amped up

?????
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>Bloodborne fans resort to infighting just to prove their game is superior
BBfags ruined the FromSoft community
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>>332444857
>Artorias is leagues above gehrman, just by combat and challenge

>holding block, the boss is good design


oh and

>Insant kills are better than good bosses!

my level 50s and 60 can tank all those "1 hits" tip, those 5% all and 7% physical runes are better than 10% hp vs those "1 hits" but you wont find that on the wiki
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>>332445186
>attacks which actually aim at the player
And yet because they didn't design them good enough, those attacks always miss if you just literally hug them.
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>>332445549
Nah, that would be Prepare To Die edition PC release.
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>>332444857
>Insant kills


git gud scrub. You don't need health in these games, just don't get hit.
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>>332445549
It was forever ruined by DaS1
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>>332445743
>"More people playing my favorite game is a bad thing!"
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>>332445979
>this projecting
Feed me some more words that I didn't say.
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>>332445549
>BBfags ruined the FromSoft community

The bloodborne community gets it.

darksouls new wave are used to getting pandered to and babied with crowd pleasing features.

The sony exclusive fromsoft games have nuance and class, they are proof of concepts and take risks.
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>>332444857

>Artorias.
>A sword, 1 phase, and 8 attacks with variations that you slash to death.

>Gherman.
>A scythe, a scimitar, a shotgun, and a literally magic pistol that parries on any hit, 3 phases, 3 movement speeds, with over 20 moves that can be parried, slashed, and BSed.

Retarded.
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