>fleshies unironically believe the human form is sacred
>fleshies will hold our species back from being smarter, stronger, happier, and longer lived
You're going to become a cyborg in the future, right /v/?
i dont mind it, but youre right people will be like >muh humanity
It all depends on one question: can augmentations be hacked?
Imagine having eye implants. Now imagine some bored dude on his basement rapid-firing the most disturbing shit you could imagine every time you close your eyes.
Shit, aren't mechanical or biological augs an option?
Robo dick
>missing the point of the game
augs are only the first step
did you not understand What Megan was working on?
Fuck no, I'm going full on robot.
>you will never become a cyborg or full on robot
sick of this meat sack holding me back
>>332087698
what would the benefit of having any augs that deal with vital function connected to the net when im just derping around in public? oh right there is none so how would this even happen? seriously some kinda 80's movie mentality on how "hacking" works.
>tfw future government makes it mandatory to replace your brain cell by cell with nano machines until everyone is a robot
>tfw "uploading your mind" would just be making a copy of yourself, leaving you still stuck in the shitty real world
>>332087698
>ads constantly hovering in front of you
>cyborg leg only works at 50% with the rest being unlocked later on when you pay more
>if you bypass it an automatic firmware upgrade happens when you walk by cy-leg terminals and your leg bricks up
>your cyborg arm glitches up due to a faulty patch and your destroy your boner with it while masturbating
>your backed-up brain starts to work slower since your memory storage unit malfunctions
the only viable scenario for this to even work realistically is if you can get your cyborg components serviced daily by a team of experts.
>>332087456
I want to be a transhuman.
>>332087456
How does sexuality work when you're a cyborg? Would you even need an actual cyber dick or do you just have a button that triggers an insta-orgasm in your brain?
>>332087456
>people seriously would go full chrome
>people seriously would let big business or the government have control of their limbs
>people seriously don't realise how much maintenance it would be
>people seriously don't realise that you'd need to inevitably upgrade to newer augs that cost double what you originally paid
Face it cybercucks, the only guaranteed way to not become conciousness trapped in the shell owned and operated by someone else would be to assemble and graft the augs yourself. BRICK THE AUGS, PURITY WAR NOW!
>>332088307
>Implying every aug wont be sending back constant data for market research.
Do you really put it past these shady corporations.
>>332087456
I want immortality as much as the next guy, but implants are not really for us. By the time they roll out, if they even roll out in our lifetime, our bodies will be on the verge of shitting themselves in old age. Exoskeletons will do us more good than artificial limbs.
What we need is either uploadingbut I'm coming to believe it is impossible, not just a matter of time, or a very, very good cryo option to bide our time.
>>332087456
>Cyborg
You think as small as the nuts and bolts holding your shitty mechanical body together.
I want my brain to be transferred into an advanced robot, so I can explore space by myself, far away from the garbage planet that is Earth.
>>332089212
>paying for augs and upgrades
>not getting the unlocked modded shit on black markets
>you will never live in a classic 80s cyberpunk world
>you get to live in Brave New World
>>332087456
Augmentations are degenerate.
>>332089564
But anon, you do. It's just a shittier version without all the shiny lights.
>>332089547
>trusting the black market docs
>ever
Honour among thieves is just how they get your stupid ass to let your guard down, they're just as likely to fuck you over, if you don't die of infection on the operating table.
Just be SINless and buy a reliable gun
>>332089658
But no-one is dressing in leather bondage gear and wearing skulls and facepaint.
>>332089839
SINless you'd just end up like Mona or his pimp.
>>332087456
Not gonna happen in feasible amount of time, generation or two after me will probably get some cool things, but I think I'll be dying when the technology emerges and will be available just for rich.
I'm quite happy with my current body. I've put years into it, and I'm going to continue to put years into it. I want to see what it's capable of. It's already strong, fast, and beautiful.
I'll let someone less happy with their physical form handle the envelope pushing this time.
>>332090274
>I want to see what it's capable of.
That's why we want to go chrome, there's no point putting time into my body when I already know the limits and are not impressed by them.
>gets cybernetic implants
>commits crime
>authorities find him due to gps implants in all cybernetics
>kek
>mfw
>>332087964
Not OP, I remember nothing about what Megan was working on
Is it even mentioned in the game?
Is it some transcendental shit where humans become literal electricity in the cloud or some shit?
>>332087456
Well, no, not to the extent you're envisioning. But that's because odds are that won't happen in my life time, or if it does, I won't be able to afford it.
>>332087698
Any computer system can be hacked, unless it's totally closed off and has no interface to anything (i.e. it's useless).
I'd love to be a cyborg on 4 conditions:
>I don't need a wi-fi connection to function
>the company who builds my augs can't access or control them after I've bought them
>there is no way to access/hack my brain
>all the "concious" parts of my brain are remained untouched, or augmented through purely indirect means
Just let me keep my soul, free will, and privacy pls. Biological augments don't really come with these problems, but being a mech is just so much cooler and fashionable.
>>332090631
Well at the end she starts looking into nanotech so there is that.
>>332090274
Congrats, anon. But your strong, fast and beautiful body is not going to last. You have about 10 years to enjoy it, if you are lucky.
>>332087698
>It all depends on one question: can augmentations be hacked?
Only if they're networked.
I think that Adam's eyes could in theory be hacked, because if I remember correctly the UI and stuff he sees in his built-in HUD is information being fed to him by the computers at Sariff. He also gets "hacked" if you take the "improved" bio chip, but that's something that he voluntarily put into his body via a procedure, so I don't know if it counts as hacking if it's not done remotely or on-the-fly.
It's perfectly possible that you could invent/manufacture your own augs that don't have any spyware or networking capability. You might be one step behind the commercial or military augs, but you could at least have certainty that outsiders won't meddle with your implants.
>>332087456
depends, can I be a cute sexbot?
>>332090778
>nanos
every fucking time
Why is it always motherfucking nanotechonology. Its so overused in games and movies its ridiculous.
GAS THE HANZERS RACE WAR NOW
>>332087456
I don't believe in fixing what isn't broken.
>>332090881
In this case it's because that's a lead in to the original Deus Ex.
>>332090778
She joined the nanotech project, but it had been going on for at least a decade by the time she was kidnapped.
>that's just not human
Fucking dumbest shit I've ever heard. So a prosthetic limbs isn't "human"? Or a pace maker? A colostomy bag? Where the fuck do you draw the line? Isnt any medical intervention or body augmentation okay? Are tools okay to use at all?
Luddites go home.
>b-but it's unnatural
>muh sacred human body
The human body is fucking terrible, it just barely does the job
We should feel no reservation from upgrading it
>>332090914
Is this where you live, friend?
>>332088661
We SOMA now?
>>332090764
>Biological augments don't really come with these problems
Well they might not hack you but cut here, put hormone there and while you're not directly mind controlled you've just become liberal cuck or something else government desires, and since change was made on biological level you wouldn't probably be even able to tell difference.
>>332090868
>if I remember correctly the UI and stuff he sees in his built-in HUD is information being fed to him by the computers at Sariff
I don't remember that ever being specified. Pretty sure it was implied he just had computer chips in his brain that did it.
He did definitely have a wireless connection to Sarif though, which he used to talk and send data back and forth.
>>332087456
I won't get augmentations or shit
I just wanna die as quickly as possible without making it look like suicide.
>>332088661
Doesn't matter. Just let your brain be shut off and stop worrying about it.
>>332089212
Okay so I know this is hard to imagine because you are sub 80 IQ and technology is indistinguishable from magic but if a prosthetic limb was able to send and receive signals or an implant was able to do the same or whatever else you can see these things. It's not magic.
>>332088661
Yea man thats why if this ever happends i want my brain in a robots body.
>>332090881
did you not play the original Deus Ex, kid?
>>332087964
All I remember was that she discovered Adam's special DNA and realized it could be used to circumvent Neuropozyne dependency.
>>332091108
If we're going to build new houses, of course we should make them better than the old ones, and if the old ones break down or aren't doing their jobs to begin with, might as well replace them. But I'm not getting my eyes replaced with robot ones when I can see perfectly well with glasses, which are more reliable anyway.
>>332087456
why wouldn't I want immortality?
>>332087456
I've already got 2, 3 ft metal rods, and 22 screws in my spine. I'm already in the way. I'm saving up to attach a jet pack
>>332091389
No, I didn't
>kid
wooo, elitism, soooo cooool
>>332090909
>my lungs filter out the gas and only let oxygen through
>walk out of gas changer unphased
Baseliners BTFO
>>332091481
you deserve all the elitism that comes your way, faggot
>>332091452
Well too bad there are far more colors that human eye can't see, you can see perfectly for human standarts, cyborgs can see like eagles or better.
>>332087456
>my heart implant needs wifi
>>332091524"unfazed"
>>332090881
nanotech has been in Deus Ex since it's conception, it is a cheap literary device but the strength of Deus Ex is that it doesn't linger on the more fanciful elements it or make them the focus. The characters and world come first.
>>332091625
>there are far more colors that human eye can't see
See thats an interesting question though. Will your brain actually know what to do with the eye's output if it's got eight channels or something?
>>332091625
I don't really want the entire world to look different. I'm enjoying the way it looks now.
>>332091012
>we use glasses to improve our vision
>we use watches to tell the time
>we use 4-wheeled exoskeletons to travel at high speeds
>smartphones do more work for us than some of our organs
We're already transhuman, why stop the future?
>Islam is literally burning down Paris and turning France into the next islamic caliphate
>deus ex:MD is set in Paris and we're supposed to sympathize with the augs who are basically radicalized muslims at this point
Talk about poor taste.
>>332091798
Most probably not without genetic modification to brain, it would probably just 'emulate' like we do with current devices, therefore you won't see 'Infrared' as new color(as some animals probably do) but as red/orange/yellow on blue background, like we do with cameras.
>>332091625
I always wondered, what the fuck would happen if we were able to see those colors too? Like the mantis shrimp wich can see 15 color cones instead of our 3., right?
Would we go crazy since we are not even supposed to see, by nature, all those colors? Would one be able to see things others aren't able to see?
>>332092103
i thought it was set in prague
>>332092221
yes you're right, that was a typo.
>>332092103
Stop believing everything you read on /pol/
>>332091809
It would look same, just not to you because you would see 'more of it', take it as bodily version of red pill, you might not like what you see (probably too colorful or shit) but it's far more 'true' than what you were able to see until that point.
>>332091945
Right now we use technology externally or to fix defects. There's a reason for that- the human body is versatile, while machines are static. Attaching electronic devices in a way that can't be removed easily tends to cause more problems than it solves.
there isn't a single downside to becoming a cyborg so of fucking course I will
I will also start a cyborg revolution and murder fleshits
>>332092273
Pretty shitty typo since Prague and Czech Republic DOES NOT (yet) turn into Caliphate, on other hand it's one of the most bitchy countries in EU about it. In story same, all those Czech Police harrasing augs who chimped out after Darrow pulled the trigger.
>we're supposed to sympathize with the augs
It's Deus Ex, I think you'll be given choice.
>>332092182
see post above yours, brain usually ignores information it can't process, like there are infinite information and data streams flying around your head but without computer or phone, you wouldn't even know they exist (if you were for example abbo taken out of forest)
>>332091012
>>332091945
You draw the line when it comes to replacing something you already have.
If your limbs are already working there's no need to cut them off and replace them.
>year is 2050
>the 1% is all cyborgs ruling over the human caste who weren't born into wealth
>the technological singularity comes
>AI deems that the cyborgs are too harmful to their own species
>they get their augmented brains plugged into a virtual hell
>they experience more pain than is physically possible in the real world, with time slowed down so the agony lasts seemingly for eternity
>hanzers BTFO for denying their own humanity
>>332087456
>fleshies unironically believe the human form is sacred
Its not. But if you believe that replacing your arms with glorified iron bars is a way to go you are borderline retarded though.
Nano machines is where its at.
>>332088661
>you will live as a "cookie" for all of eternity serving the actual you with basic inane tasks
that fucking episode of black mirror gave me chills mane
>>332092954
>iron bars
You mean carbon nanotubes and advanced composites that are lighter and stronger than steel?
>>332087964
She was making the grey death, that fucking bitch, it wasn't enough for her to NTR Jenson with the enemy she had to fuck the entire world too.
>>332093217
>You mean carbon nanotubes and advanced composites that are lighter and stronger than steel?
Yes as I already said glorified iron bars. With nano machines you can have much more than this.
Space elevators when
>>332087456
>not using cybergenetics
Enhance, don't replace
>>332087456
Only if they male waifus real.
Or an eternal delusion at least
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
>>332087456
Only the rich would get the cool augs. Worthless neets like you will not be able to afford the augs and will be the slaves of the new cyborg master race
>>332087456
No, I'd go full on robot. Shame it won't happen. ;_;
Ziggy the best cyborg.
Jensen is a nerd.
>>332094314
>Technically, the punishment is only theorised to be applied to those who knew the importance of the task in advance but did not help sufficiently. In this respect, merely knowing about the Basilisk — e.g., reading this article — opens you up to hypothetical punishment from the hypothetical superintelligence.
>>332087456
>Wanting to live knowing you have a kill switch that can be flipped at any second
>>332095321
>reading this post set me up for the hypothethical punishment
>>332094314
It exists after I die, and it only makes a simulation of me and tortures that? Why the fuck should I care?
>>332095490
All biological humans have such a switch and it can be flipped with pretty much any weapon. It's called the brain.
>>332095617
Because odds are that you are that simulation.
>>332095490
don't be such a paranoidlaputan machine
>>332094314
>>332095321
YOU FUCKERS
![tumblr_luy3hjj3Wn1qghgnxo7_250[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/S2Q2hSt.gif "tumblr_luy3hjj3Wn1qghgnxo7_250[1].gif")
>>332095691
>>332087456
Only when we can bring about democratising the economy so that my options for augments are not just from corporations that want to monitor all my "data".
>>332095740
I AM NOT A
>>332095569
>>332095910
Better get into AI development, anons :^)
>>332095920
well if the AI creates 99 copies of you that are identical to you up until your death, but burn in hell for eternity afterwards, there's only a 1% chance that you're the original
So there's no way of preventing death from old age besides going full robot or uploading your mind to a computer?
>>332094314
This is almost too stupid for words.
By what basis would people be judged to have contributed? What about farmers who grow food to keep scientists fed? What about ship crews who transport equipment that the scientists use? Police who keep the scientists from being murdered? Are they all uncontributing? What about a scientist who was building AI, but was following a different project that didn't go anywhere? What about the scientist who DID build the AI, but took a few weeks longer than he otherwise would have because he had to go home every night to feed his dog? It's completely arbitrary, and the amount of people who "contributed" to the AI could be the entire world's population.
>>332096210
If I'm one of the simulations, and I only exist to be tortured, then it's already too late to do anything to stop it.The original me that drew the AI's ire is already long gone.
>>332096341
Direct contribution, aka people working in the field of AI research and development.
>>332096210
None of the copies are the real me. They're just mere copies, so who the fuck cares?
>>332090764
>soul
Nice try Descartes.
>>332096358
well that kind of gets into the whole free will thing doesn't it
would a sufficiently well simulated version of yourself do the same things you do? because if it would, then living a life of pleasing the AI would guarantee that you're the original, because there'd be no reason for the AI to simulate someone like that
>>332090764
this
>>332096212
>uploading your mind to a computer
Is this even possible? Always sounded like bullshit to me. The conscience is a part of your body. You can't just "separate" it from your body and store it into a hard drive.
This always sounded like a pseudo scientific replacement for the religious concept of the soul . Replace "soul" with "mind" and "heaven" with "computer"
>>332096653Consciousness.
And you're saying that it's part of the body. Which part?
>>332096610
naw, it's the opposite
original me doesn't give a fuck because he's not going to be tortured either way, only some simulation is
simulation me doesn't give a fuck because he never had a chance not to be tortured--from the moment he was created, it was going to happen.
fuck the AI in either case.
>>332087456
>There will come a time when people will support transgenders while opposing transhumans/cyborgs.
>>332096462
>Everyone works in the field of AI research
>Lab shuts down because no is generating electricity
"Superintelligence"
>>332096003
Sticks and stones.
>become cyborg
>become owned property that becomes obsolete in 20 years or less anyway
>>332096212
There's no such thing as death from old age
You die because important bodily systems start to cascade in failure to the point where fixing one problem would cause 4 more.
Solving those problems would allow for clinical immortality.
>>332096726
Fuck. Sorry, English isn't my first language.
And is part of the brain, I guess.
>>332096789
>mfw I'll tell those filthy micyborgists to check their privilege
>>332096781
that kind of presumes that you know which you are, doesn't it
if you don't know, but there's a way to guarantee that you're not a simulation, wouldn't you take it?
>>332096793
I was going to post something like this. Alternatively
>group of people decide that having power, food, and infrastructure is just as important to the AI cause as actually developing AI
>dumb fuck retarded AI tortures them for not contributing in the right way
There honestly should be a second AI that tortures everyone for being involved in creation of the first AI
>>332097018
>that kind of presumes that you know which you are, doesn't it
No. I just said, either way it's not in my interest to help make the AI. Either I'm doing it for nothing since I'll die and only a simulation of me will be punished. Or I'm doing it for nothing since I only exist because the real me didn't and I'm still going to be punished no matter what.
>>332096793
It's not reaching into the past to fetch everyone who did not contribute but rather simulating them in the present (our future) and punishing that simulation for eternity. Supposedly the simulation would be you, for all intents and purposes.
>>332097090
There should also be a third AI the tortures the first two AIs for torturing people
>>332096789
>die, cishuman scum
>>332087456
>Having to constantly upgrade your outdated and shitty hardware
>Cost of surgery every other month and putting your organic parts under that much stress regularly
>>332096653
The only way to do so would be to preserve your brain in a vat. Of course your brain may still die, theoretically that may be avoided in the future but then you're getting into Ship of Theseus territory if you replace your dying cells instead of just preserving them.
>>332097018
Yes, I know which one I am. I'm the guy sitting right here writing this post, in a time where recreating a person's personality in the digital realm is nigh impossible and uncharted. I'm the only "me" of this specific universe.
I'll be dead by the time this AI comes into existence, any copy it makes of me will not be the real me, it'll be "someone" else.
>>332094314
>Benevolent AI
>Literally punishes you AM style if you don't help create it
>>332097510
So what you are saying that we need to become robobrains to achieve immortality?
>>332096946
Brain cells die all the time, don't they?
Is it a part of the brain in such a way that there are certain brain cells that need to survive no matter what, or is it more about the structure of the whole thing?
>>332097609
>I'm the guy sitting right here writing this post, in a time where recreating a person's personality in the digital realm is nigh impossible and uncharted.
What if you're just a simulation of a guy in that time?
>>332092834
They aren't really working as good as they could now are they. So why wouldn't I replace them if I can have something better? Durrr
>>332097510
Isn't you're body always replacing itself already though, the molecules that make up your cells aren't the same as the ones that formed you years ago.
If a computer could download all your thoughts and memories and act like you would now. The only thing is it wouldn't be "you." Your current stream of thought would die (the one in your body/mind), but "you" would live on in a sense. Would you be okay with this?
>>332092337
> there isn't a single downside to becoming a cyborg
It's resource intensive and incredibly specialized from a biology standpoint.
Ignoring the risk of hacking, the level of augmentation seen in HR would require constant maintenance/drugs and environments rich in engineered alloys/electricity.
The moment a person who is half or near fully augmented as Jenson travels to extremely low tech, natural environments with no urban development they put themselves at risk to a variety of situations.
Augs and Cyborgs are specialized as fuck, this basic biology,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalist_and_specialist_species
>>332097872
I haven't heard a good answer to that question yet. I know that brain cells are generally not replaced, but I don't know about the molecules constituting those cells.
>>332097701
The structure of the whole thing. Every part of your brain, the whole nervous system, the feelings it produces. All of that.
>>332097972
>Your current stream of thought would die
Why not just leave it alive? I'd be okay with that.
Although a situation like that would obviously raise all kinds of hairy legal and moral issues.
>>332096212
I suppose if regenerative medicine gets advanced enough you could effectively stop ageing.
>>332098134
Well, if the structure is what's important, then you're made of information, right? The medium, i.e. the atoms you body is made of, aren't the important part, but the way they're arranged is.
But information can be copied, and copied exactly. That is to say, the copy of the information is the same information as the original information.
So that would imply that it's possible to pirate you, wouldn't it?
>>332097804
What if our entire reality is a simulation in a superrealistic virtual reality made by aliens, while our real bodies are being maintained in stasis tubes in an alien facility, kept in deep slumber, connected to this simulated reality, and when we "die" in this world, it's actually the aliens waking our real bodies from stasis and removing us from this fake reality to live in the ACTUAL reality?
>>332098439
So you kind of get to live twice? Cool I guess
>upload self into computer for sweet paradise and immortality
>cyberme assumes control of android
>[pic related]
the perfect crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc&feature=youtu.be
Relevant, maybe.
>>332098430
Not really. Again, you can't just separate it from the body. How would my mind work without my body? Can you even copy all my brain and store it inside a computer? Not to mention problems like >>332096938, even if my mind could be copied, it probably would be that, a copy, not really "me".
>>332090631
play the original dude sex :^)
![1-machine[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2cE6M8V.jpg "1-machine[1].jpg")
>>332098785
http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/stayingalive/Default.aspx
>>332098948
http://static.existentialcomics.com/comics/2-machine.jpg
>>332098820
>How would my mind work without my body?
Of course it wouldn't work without *a* body. But it would work without *your* body. If only structure is important, then that structure is you, no matter what atoms it's written on, or what language it's written in.
>Retards forgetting that Jensen's augs were top of the line, worth billions of dollars, and possibly became illegal due to how dangerous they could be, and were mostly prototypical
>They somehow think they'd get that and not some cheap as fuck Chinese bullshit that's slightly more beneficial for manual labor work and fucking nothing else
>>332098002
Brain cells actually do get replaced, just very very slowly.
>it's not ok to want to be a girl
>it's ok to want to be a machine
Why 4chan so retarded?
Ugh
>>332099419
Point is though that at no point in your adult life you won't have any brain cells left you had at another point every point in your adult life, you'll have cells in your brain that you had with you your entire adult life. And I'm pretty sure it's most of them.
Reminder that "uploading your mind to a computer" will not transfer your consciousness, but make a copy of it. The real you remains in flesh.
Reminder that teletransportation does not transport you, but copy your being to another location, while deleting the real you from existence.
Reminder that your best bet to become a cyborg is to transfer your whole brain medula to a robotic body that does not contain any tracking/wireless devices in it.
Reminder that being one of flesh is not any more "righetous" or "sacred" than being one of metal.
>>332099618
Okay, I just had a stroke there.
>>332099419
>Point is though that at every point in your adult life, you'll have cells in your brain that you had with you your entire adult life. And I'm pretty sure it's most of them.
>>332099401
>Of course it wouldn't work without *a* body. But it would work without *your* body.
Would that mean you would have to copy my brain and then make an artificial body to host it?
>>332099849
Well, if you can copy a brain, you should also be able to copy a body.
But perfectly simulating your brain on some other computer would be enough. That's what I meant by the "language" part. It's like how a file contains the same information whether I store it on a hard drive, a solid state drive or printed on paper.
>>332087456
>uploading your brain to machine actually kills you, but no one will notice because it is the exact copy of you
Nah, fuck that.
>>332096212
You could figure out a way to keep our regenerative ability going forever instead of stopping like it does now.
>Am I going to install DRM into my body
>With a mechanical limbs that are worthless without a mechanical body for them to not snap of
>Or hardware into your brain that will soon be outdated and require massively invasive brain surgery to replace
>All of which require additional maintenance on top of anti-rejection drugs and general well being
>Just so I can waste it as a wageslave/NEET and pretend I'm a elite soldier or mercenary
>>332089578
go away, Bill
I'd become a souless machine who serves corporate interests as long as I get sick-ass cyber parts.
>>332087456
>cybernetic augmentation
>not genetic engineering
Maximum pleb. Flesh is more efficient than machine by several orders of magnitude.
Why would you ever downgrade like that?
>>332100182
I don't even see how uploading is supposed to be possible
The human brain and man made computers have nothing in common. This isn't like comparing Mac to Windows, two systems which have compatibility issues as is.
>>332087456
First thing I'll get maybe are arms and legs. Then my manlet days are over.;_;
>>332102564
>genetic engineering
Yeah that'd be great if it wasn't for the fact that I've already been created, you can't genetically engineer someone who is already alive.
>>332102647
Usually it presupposes sufficiently fast computers to simulate the physics of the entire thing. Which is already a complete bitch to do with an NES, so yeah.
>>332087456
Already have augments
>>332102823
just use viruses or some shit
>>332102823
Sure you can. Engineered retro-viruses and shit.
>>332102971
How would that work?
>>332103062
dunno, but it's how they always do it in the movies
retroviruses
NANOMACHINES, SON
>>332103061
>>332102971
>viruses
>mutating your body
>cant even get a good physical form through lifting
>talking shit about augments
fucking dumbass lmao
>>332087456
You would be surprised how tough human flesh is. Sure cybernetics would work as long as they're well maintained but that would get expensive. And you would have to repair any damage instead of letting your body do its own thing.
Implants to basically let computers sit inside your brain? Maybe. But we will never have cybernetics that outdo human's natural limbs or organs.
>>332103312
never is a pretty strong word m8
>>332103312
>But we will never have cybernetics that outdo human's natural limbs or organs.
NANOMACHINES, SON!
Seriously though, nanomachines could mimic the functions of organic cells while being made of more durable materials.
>>332103473
you literally have nanomachines inside your cells right now
>>332103312
>we will never have cybernetics that outdo human's natural limbs or organs.
>lose arm or leg
>hurts like fuck
>either have to amputate it our keep a mangled ugly piece of shit dangling from your body for the rest of your life
>it never grows back or heals completely
>lose cybernetic implant
>lol just replace it
>>332103062
Viruses reproduce by altering the genes of a cell to make the cell produce more of that virus until they destroy the cell and spread. The idea would be to engineer the viruses to alter genes in ways that we would want instead.
>>332103237
This is a thing though, theoretically a virus could infect every cell in your body and add adjustments to your existing DNA
>>332103237
>lopping off pieces of a perfectly functional organic mechanism and replacing it with clunky tech
Fucking peasants. Improve what you got instead of throwing it away for something that can't even maintain itself.
>>332104028
>Improve what you got
You can't, no matter how many years you spend lifting you will never lift 1 ton on your each hand, human body have shitty limits.
>he doesn't want to lift several metric tons with ease
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/507576/nanotube-muscles-bench-50000-times-their-own-weight/
Suit yourself, /fit/fags.
>>332104236
>>332104312
And there is no way a humanoid body can handle that kind of stress.
>>332104236
There are organic compounds that could handle that weight and it is not outside the realm of possibility to engineer a man-sized organism that incorporates such compounds.
>>332104785
>muh organics
shouldnt you be busy having mandatory timeouts due to muscle fatigue and cramps, fleshie?
>>332104596
It can when you upgrade the rest.
All you'd need is a bundle about a centimetre in diameter, and you'd already have peak human strength.
>>332087698
>can augmentations be hacked
Only if you have a wireless connection. The only thing that would reasonably have a wireless connection is a datajack for your brain if cyberspace is a thing that will exist, and even then you're not going to have a datajack that connects directly to your brain exactly because of shit like this.
I guess you could argue that wireless software updates could be convenient for augmentations, and then argue that the connection there could be hacked and manipulated, but wireless software updates are seriously fucking dangerous shit to do when it comes to your physical body and possible your brain, so it doesn't seem likely.
>>332104983
>implying machines are immune to fatigue and malfunction
Please. My heart has been beating non-stop for 25 years and it ain't stopping any time soon.
Show me a machine that can say the same without maintenance.
>the NSA has been spying on your cell phones and emails for years "just cuz"
>Viewers are forced to watch a 15 second ad before a 30 second Youtube video
>If you go two years without upgrading your phone, three years without upgrading your PC, or five years without upgrading your console you are offically outdated as hell
>Unironically asking me to put computers in fucking brain
Kill yourselves. You're asking for the worst, most inescapable dystopia imaginable. I'm not a caveman for having a more realistic understanding of human nature than you.
>>332087456
Of course. Technology is a fundamental aspect of human beings. It's only logical to implement it into our own physical selves, to directly improve the human experience rather than indirectly.
There are certainly some dangers, but none that can't be worked around thanks to human ingenuity.
>>332089212
>he would unironically wage war agains people who are smarter than him, stronger than him, more durable than him, can shoot rockets out of their arms and turn invisible
>>332088661
Only if you do it that way. It'd be preferable to dying forever, with no remnant of yourself to leave behind for those you've lost and future generations.
Although I'm sure it's possible to maintain continuity in consciousness if you replace the brain piece by piece and allow electrical impulses to travel freely in between organic and synthetic parts, until the entire brain has been replaced and can then be uploaded into an electrical construct while still maintaining continuity.
>>332105349
They aren't, but at least a fatigued synthetic muscle won't bother you with pain signals, all it needs is a little cooldown time.
>>332105712
>Implying you would be allowed to have anything stronger than a normal human as a civvie
streaming dudes 4, kill yourself faggots:
>>332087456
>>332105859
It will throw you a diagnostic feedback signal which is pretty much the same thing.
>>332106010
nigger you call that stream? check this shit shitter shitson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVl7snUEYQ
>>332105379
this
>>332106010
smarjuice mit ply
>>332106010
Huh?
