Guys, honestly, do you think Dark Souls III is going to be good, mediocre or shit?
Good for sure and as long as it doesn't have DaS2 bad area design it will be great. Fuck I fucking hate DaS2 at times, what a complete piece of shit.
>>331292745
How do you crash into a parked car you falied abortion holy fuck.
>>331292632
Pretty confident it will be at least good, maybe even great.
>>331292632
Better than DS2 obviously and possibly better than DS1/BB/DeS unless there is another post-anor londo tier drop in quality.
Good, just like Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2. Not as great as Demon's Souls but definitely not as shitty as Bloodbore.
>>331292632
Bloodborne gave me hope, but all the references to the previous games slowly erodes that hope.
>>331292947
>peecuck
>>331293057
this. Das3 is gonna be sliiiightly better than Das2 cause at least miyazaki has had SOME involvement, but it's still B-team and it's still simply made to fill out a contractual obligation with Bamco.
The A-team is working on that next unspecified game that was leaked.
>>331293125
>consolecucks in charge of reading
>>331292632
I think it'll be good. Probably will be between 1 and 2 in the rankings, 2 being the lowest.
I just hope they actually tie the story into DaS1 instead of the embarrassing fan fiction that was DS2s story
>>331292632
From what ive seen during the livestream today, it looks like a clone of bloodborne, even the enemy hit reactions
So its going to be decent, not great like demons souls and dark souls 1, but it will be fun to play
Much much better than dark souls 2
>>331293143
>A-team
>B-team
This isn't a collaborative effort you mong, many games(especially Nip ones) are led by auteur directors. The most important people in these projects are the directors.
It's gonna be great
There are no warning signs like there were for DaS2
>>331292632
DS2 was shit but it's still good
This will be similar
>>331293306
>a videogame is made
>this isn't a collaborative effort
stopped reading there, you're officially the most retarded human being on the entire planet
Concerned, to be honest
No hype means no waiting though, i'll just get it when I notice it is out on steam
>>331293269
>game directly references cycles and refers to itself as a cycle, along with using a prolapse giant as one of the main bosses
>wow guys i hope it doesn't reference Dark Souls 2
>>331292632
Pretty good.
I think DaS2 is pretty good even if it's not as good as the other games, so I'm sure 3 will be fine.
>>331293315
We Monster Hunter now.
>>331293374
Look up what an auteur is before spouting any more stupid shit.
>>331293429
That's not what I meant, I'm saying I hope the story is similar in quality to the first game and not the second
mediocre or shit, but overrated
>>331293476
haha how about you just kill yourself you absolute retarded mongoloid I bet you think Kojima single-handedly created MGSV
>>331293512
What's the difference? Same vague, fill in the gaps story type
>>331292941
Isn't like the last 30% of all the games meh? Bloodborne had the Nightmare Frontier and shit
>>331293612
Dark Souls 2 was essentially a repeat of the original. The universe wasn't expanded upon, and there was no conclusion.
He's hoping for an actual conclusion to the series.
>>331292632
IMO it's gonna be: DeS=BB>DaS1>DaS3>DaS2
>>331293787
This nigga is right about everything he just said except for the fact that it's only his opinion, and not absolute fact
>>331293306
No it isn't, shithead. Warren Spector laughs at idiots like you.
>>331293834
but they did say "IMO" so they were right about that too.
>>331293778
That's false.
Dark Souls 2 deals with the long eternity of the cycle and the fragments of Manus, their influence, and the curse when it's not outright hollowing people instantly.
There is just as much conclusion as in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. If you do everything right, you are free of the curse and the cycle, immortal and unable to hollow.
What your post really says is that you don't like the game and just disregard everything about it.
>>331293778
How do you even pull off a conclusion to this? Save the world/break the cycle?
>>331293778
I sure as fuck hope it's not some shitty "conclusion to the series" crap but a proper stand-alone game.
>>331293930
No no I'm saying he DID say IMO and that was the only thing that was wrong in his sentence.
It's not his opinion, it IS fact.
>>331293306
The most important people (at least for souls games) are those who design enemies and areas. This is not a story driven game like MGS where Kojima has actual influence on game pacing, character development and shit. In souls director at best can give general advice on where to place enemies, traps, powerful upgrades for player etc.
>>331293859
>western game designer
Nice try faggot.
I don't know, but it probably won't top bloodborne
>>331293983
Not him but you can becomethe lord of Hollows now in DS3. To anyone that knows the lore of DS1 & 2 well, this is pretty much breaking the cycle
>>331293626
Bloodborne had a solid finale compared to DaS and DaS2, Gehrman is a way better final boss than either Gwyn or Girl Nito, same with Moon Presence
>>331292632
Good, maybe not great. I'm certain it can't be as bad as DS2.
It will be decent.
Probably in the end it will look like this:
DS=BB>DS3>DES>DS2
>>331294097
Is this a delusional weeb or bait?
I don't know anymore.
No one on /v/ is going to be officially allowed to like the game judging from the shitposting that's already happening now, but my feeling is the people with realistic expectations will be happy with the game. Probably will be regarded between 1 and 2 in the hierarchy after a couple more games have been made and the shitposting flurry has moved on.
>>331293143
>simply made to fill out a contractual obligation with Bamco.
I thought Bamco only handled the localization.
>>331293950
>eternity of cycles
>armor and weapons from the original game is still perfectly intact
Everything you just described happens in Dark Souls except for the cycles. The influence of the dark soul is still there, but in a different form.
>freeing yourself from the cycle
Too bad this is never fucking explained at all, and makes no sense.
>>331294187
>DaS that high
>DeS that low
>>331294187
BB > DS though
I agree otherwise
>>331292632
Very worried that it's going to reuse more stuff from previous games than even DaS2 did. I have the suspicion that it's going to be mediocre because it will lack its own identity. Especially when I see shit like "Dragonslayer Armour" on the list of bosses. That being said I don't think that it will be shit.
>>331294087
even in a story-driven game like MGS, it was a collaborative effort. You know that Fukushima meme? Well it aint just a meme. Kojima didn't solo-write anything, and he sure as shit didn't solo-create anything other than the writing.
![2884913-screen+shot+2015-06-15+at+10.52.05[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/jC6DgIN.jpg "2884913-screen+shot+2015-06-15+at+10.52.05[1]")
I'm hopeful. While the season pass shit really puts me off, the DLC areas in both games were good (with the exception of recycled bosses in Sunken King). DaS2 also had its share of genuine gameplay improvements; bows and crossbows, more balanced magic, removal of non-scaling elements, more equipment load levels, dual wielding, better crafting with more viable infusions, human form mattered in solo play and PvP covenants were accessible much earlier etc. though had its problems with worse level design and boss fights.
I'm hoping DaS3 manages to combine the strengths of both games. I'm still on the edge about whether I should pre-order though.
>>331293778
>Dark Souls 2 was essentially a repeat of the original. The universe wasn't expanded upon, and there was no conclusion.
>He's hoping for an actual conclusion to the series.
At least we can agree on the latter, but DaS2:SotFS somewhat fixed the story's lack of direction with the introduction of Aldia and his questions about whether continuing the cycle or ushering the Age of Dark are proper answers at all, or if there's some other answer to the cycle.
It seems DaS3 will continue off from DaS2:SotFS's new ending due to the appearance of Unkindled and Lords of Cinder (the cycle didn't continue as planned), the narrator mentioning "Lords going without their thrones" (Throne of Want wasn't taken by anyone) and the firekeeper or someone else in the intro holding a crown that is reminiscent to DaS2's sovereign crowns.
>>331294252
Miyazaki babies just quit DeS because it had too many "unfair" gank encounters.
>>331294218
Bamco isn't involved in the development, but it's pretty common knowledge that From signed off on a trilogy contract with Bamco back when they made the move away from Demon's Souls. Meanwhile, it was leaked a few weeks ago, maybe or a month, that From's been working on a new game with the team who created Bloodborne.
Das3 is simply From trying to push something out the door using as many assets and re-used concepts from Bloodborne as possible, while still doing a bit of fanservice to the Dasfags who didn't buy a ps4 (example: they put solaire's meme armor in the game) so they can fulfill the trilogy contract and get back to working on what Miyazaki actually wants to work on, i.e this new game
>>331294221
>Too bad this is never fucking explained at all, and makes no sense.
Wow! Just like everything fucking else like how becoming a monumental affects you, what the old one will do when fed, what linking the fire really does to you, etc etc
>>331294221
"Once the fire is linked, souls will flourish anew and all this will play out again"
"Beyond the scope of light, Beyond the reach of dark, what could possible await us?"
Both your questions are answered in the endings, the most straight forward of lore in DS2, Why the crown keeps you from hollowing will be explained in DS3 since you as an Unkindled can't hollow and there are thrones, crowns and shit all over the game.
>>331294351
But the ending in DaS2:SotFS is no different than the Age of Dark.
The only difference is that your character doesn't become a Dark Lord.
>>331292868
>le dark souls 2 is bad meme
I feel it will have too much pandering, memes, and the game will be mediocre.
I hope i'm wrong.
>>331294495
I don't care about DeS lore.
If we had a proper sequel, then we would get an answer to what happens after we link. Too bad we needed to have DaS2 in between the beginning and the end.
>>331294589
The crown after the DLC's keeps you from hollowing/losing humanity though, making you effectively immortal and sane. I'm guessing the apocalypse scenario is happening now because the Dark Souls 2 character found the final solution to the fire problem.
>>331294623
You're probably right. I just hope the bosses are well designed instead of a giant spider shooting blue lasers out both of its assholes
>>331294836
You know that was dumb, but that was one of the funniest things I've seen happen in a video game in ages. I used to not attack to let it GIANT BLUE SPIDER LASER everywhere.
>>331294836
>instead of a giant spider shooting blue lasers out both of its assholes
what
that sounds awesome
>>331294804
If there was an actual explanation for why three random kings from one cycle could grant this power, I would be perfectly fine with that.
>>331294589
>But the ending in DaS2:SotFS is no different than the Age of Dark.
>The only difference is that your character doesn't become a Dark Lord.
That's already different, the character's motivation behind doing it. Also I think the Throne fundamentally differs from the Kiln in that taking it doesn't automatically burn the user for the good of mankind, but lets them choose.
Description of Giant's Kinship
>Each King has his rightful throne. And when he sits upon it, he sees what he chooses to see. Or perhaps, it is the throne, which shows the king only what he wants.
Emerald Herald
>If you proceed, Nashandra will come after you. Knowing that you will take the throne, and link the fire. She covets the First Flame, and the Great Soul.
>You, who link the fire, you, who bear the curse… Once the fire is linked, souls will flourish anew, and all of this will play out again. It is your choice…To embrace, or renounce this… Great Sovereign, take your throne. What lies ahead, only you can see.
These also make Nashandra's actions make more sense, since she obviously wouldn't want the Throne just so she could burn it in for the good of mankind, meaning the Throne also has the possibility of ushering darkness.
Aldia's dialogue, questioning both continuing the cycle and destroying the order of the world
>Once, the Lord of Light banished Dark, and all that stemmed from humanity. And men assumed a fleeting form. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite… A lie will remain a lie. Young Hollow, knowing this, do you still desire peace?
>All men trust fully the illusion of life. But is this so wrong? A construction, a facade, and yet… A world full of warmth and resplendence. Young Hollow, are you intent on shattering the yoke, spoiling this wonderful falsehood?
cont.
I'm expecting it to be better than DaS2 but worse than DaS and DeS.
>>331294456
But Bamco doesn't even publish the games in Japan.
>>331295114
>worse than DeS
Impossible.
>>331295054
After defeating Aldia and his ending
>I lost everything, but remained here, patiently. The throne will certainly receive you. But the question remains… What do you want, truly? Light? Dark? Or something else entirely…
>There is no path. Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark… …what could possibly await us? And yet, we seek it, insatiably… Such is our fate.
Ergo, while no one taking the Throne will probably have the same effect as just ushering the Age of Dark right now in the long run, the new ending seems to renounce both answers (the cycle and Age of Dark) and feels more like a sequel hook for DaS3. DaS3's intro certainly seems to imply that the cycle didn't continue as planned.
>>331292632
Mediocre at best.
>>331295201
I have no webms but come on man, the meat cleaver is easily the best weapon in any souls game.
>>331292632
It's made by the team behind DS1 and DS2, will have the gameplay of 2, and the level design of 1 and Bloudbourne.
yes the game is gonna be god tier.
>>331292632
yes
especially compared to all the other games coming out this year
I hope it's good.
>>331295342
u wot m8
>>331295342
>90 base damage, making the scaling effectively the same in the end as other weapons
>triple stat scaling you'll never use to full potential, especially if you want to use Light Weapon
>going Quality in Demon's Souls when you need 34 STR, 50 DEX, + INT + FAI for SC + CW
>even at 34/50, doesn't even come close to the full solid physical AR of DBS / Crushing Great Axe which only needs the STR
>horrific stamina usage without the shield rape of Bramd, Dozer Axe, or even Great Axe
>is a Great Hammer but deals Cut damage
>Crippled by Dark Silver Shield
>1% of 1100 HP is basically nothing
Unwarranted love.
Most overrated weapon in vidya history.
Going with mediocre.
>>331294187
The game isn't even out, what's the point ?
>>331292632
That looks so stupid. It's a good thing this is the last game. They're really running out of ideas.
>>331293315
>tfw start to remember maldron
>>331295817
>using the most optimal weapon
>in a souls game
Why not just use magic? Its move-set is fun as fuck, it deals more than enough damage to be valid in PVP/NG+ and that's all that matters.
>>331295812
It's too slow for my liking, but it is cool and fun for a while.I also prefer hammer over great sword
God, I hope it's good.
DeS was perhaps my favorite game of all time and I never doubted for a second that DaS would be fantastic too. It did not disappoint.
DaS2 on the other hand was not what I hoped for.
Miyazaki is back at the helm though, right?
DeS, DaS, and BB are all so fucking good. I just hope it's about as good as they are.
They are all the same game with minor changes in world and gameplay design. So it will be good because the Souls formula is pokemon-tier safety.
>>331296027
>using the least optimal weapon to ever exist in a Souls game
Anon
Anon come the fuck on
The moveset is the exact same as the crescent axe, greataxe, great club, bramd, dozer axe
The damage does not compare to cursed weapon fagolas with pure physical weapons and dark silver shields, same goes for Blessed weapons
>>331296201
is this supposed to be a voynich manuscript about half a presses?
>>331296236
>The moveset is the exact same as the crescent axe, greataxe, great club, bramd, dozer axe
Yes, but with the range of 100 light years, also I didn't say I didn't like those weapons, although greataxe has shit range and great club looks shitty.
>>331293143
I think Miyazaki is a control freak. That's why most of the mechanical tweaks they made in DaS2 were reverted.
I think too much of the game's design is credited to the rest of the team. When in reality, the one doing the design work is primarily Miyazaki, and whoever works directly under him. The rest are all codmonkeys and artists. Simply following direction.
I don't fear B-team's competence under a good director.
>>331294623
>I feel it will have too much pandering, memes, and the game will be mediocre.
I kinda wonder. Would more people buy the game if it had Solaire? Are there Dark Souls fans who would actually enjoy praise-the-sun references in the game?
>>331296728
4.99 dlc for a Solaire starting class. Could make some shekels.
Don't really care, DS2 and all the lies surrounding it was enough to turn me away for good.
Oh, and let's not forget that Bloodborne is on PS4 and people keep bugging me to get on just to play this one game with them. Fuck it and fuck From.
it shapes up to be the best of souls series thanks to level design alone
ign stream lasted 3 hours and they rushed to undead settlement relatively fast but got absolutely fucking lost in the place, it's like two or three cathedral wards stitched together with at least 3 levels of terrain, you can even explore the space under bridges where crystal lizards dwell, you can explore roofs, you can explore every single fucking building, everything has some neat details and items or cool enemies
>>331297675
You could already do that in Bloodborne. I guess they are using the same engine.
I hope they don't re-use too many assets
>>331293626
If you go solely by the totally necessary areas, BB is best.
Trouble is that makes it even shorter.
>>331297808
you can't explore a shitton of buildings in bloodborne, this was one of my largest gripes with its level design
like, there's a fuckton of doors in central yharnam but you can't open any of them aside from a select few
in undead settlement if you see a door, you can open it and it will contain some nice surprise
miyazaki specifically stated that it was his aim in one of the early ds3 interviews
DeS>DS>BB>DS2
How wrong am I?
Regardless how good it actually is, I'm still going to wait until its on sale with all DLC on Steam for under $60.
That way I'm paying full price for the full game and not full price for part of it, then $30 more for the rest of it.
In the mean time, bugs will be fixed and I don't end up looking like a chump who supports this garbage business model.
>inb4 missing the early experience.
Yeah nah, buggy games with invaders isn't an experience, its a chore.
>>331295021
Triforce.
Sunken king = green = courage.
Iron king = red = power.
Ivory king = blue = wisdom.
>>331293315
Maldron confirmed.
>vigor is still in
>bring back luck for BBS 2.0 and nothing else
>pyromancy needs int and fth
it's doa
>>331296201
>the Souls formula
Actually, it's incredibly hard to make a game like that interesting, you dumb fuck. It can produce stellar effects when done right, but it's very, very hard.
>>331298387
Not confident in their ability to make bleed and poison builds balanced through Luck?
>>331298596
Not him, I just don't like vigor. I think the least stats should affect the most objects. Stamina and equip load should be functions of VIT, END, and STR.
But that's just me.
>>331298387
Vigor is so Flynn's Ring builds and heavy armor builds can exist. Equip load is very lenient anyway.
Luck is EXTREMELY useful. Luck gives you a hell of a lot of drops, Thief finds tons of stuff Knight doesn't, and the Rusted Gold Coins are ridiculously good.
Luck also determines bleed and poison scaling, and is was said in yesterday's IGN stream to be good for a number of weapons and spells.
Pyromancy requirements are very low. Fireball requires 6 INT/FAI, Fire Surge requires 6 INT, Great Combustion requires 10 INT/FAI. Most classes start with 9/10 INT or FAI.
>>331298740
>heavy armor
Has never been useful in any Souls but DS1. They bringing poise back, or amping the defense numbers?
>>331298927
>They bringing poise back, or amping the defense numbers?
Poise is back, and armour can't be upgraded.
Since PvP matchmaking is back to SL exclusively, people can't just get 40 END and VIG for fastrolling havels.
>>331294604
God you cunts are the worst
>>331298927
Heavy armor was overpowered in DaS2 and is still good today if you're any skilled with hyper armor weapons.
110 poise and a zwei lets you shit on flynn babbies, they completely fall apart when you tank them.
Anyway, see >>>>331291654
This will Probally be the last dark souls I play, at this point the formulas pretty played out and it could really use some more reinvention at this point. Bloodborne was a step in the right direction but honestly a large chunk of bosses throughout the series are just reused, I just can't get all that excited anymore the franchise seems pretty played out at this point.
>>331299360
>This will Probally be the last dark souls I play
It will definitely be the last Dark Souls you play, because it's the last one they're making, at least for a while.
How do weapon upgrades work this time around?
And are weapon buff spells more like DaS or DaS2?
I want to go into the game without knowing too much, otherwise I'd just go to /vg/
>>331299928
It's upgrades and infusions like in Dark Souls 2.
who do you guys think will be secret betrayal, dark serpant boss?
>>331292632
I´m just gonna play it because there is nothing else in April.
>>331292632
that thing's pretty spooky
>>331293315
FUCK DO I TAKE LANCE OR SPEAR GODDAMNIT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD TO CHOOSE
>>331300083
>dark serpant boss?
Kaathe?
I have stayed spoiler-free and am expecting it to be somewhere between DaS1 and 2. It will be enjoyable and get a couple of replays out of me. I will participate in crafting OC for whatever meme characters /v/ latches on to.
>>331300303
There's a dual spear that has a charge using both spears.
That one's probably gonna be dope.
>>331292632
As with every single Souls game, its going to be an above average and generally enjoyable experience but with a handful of flaws.
>>331300368
Holy fuck that sounds rad
Spears 4 life
>>331300303
Spears also have a charge, its not as impressive visually but it effectively does the same thing hitting from the start of the attack to the end.
>>331294559
>answering a question with a question
Please never be a writer
>>331294187
DS3=BB>DES>DS>DS2
I'm hopeful
>>331296442
anon, not the guy you were talking to, but holy shit fuck off.
Everyone knows axes are decent mainly for rolling r1 in pvp, particularly when buffed by broken catalyst curse weapon.
That said, all the rolling r1s share the SAME AOE, so it makes the most sense to simply use the weapon with the best PURE scaling, thats buffable. Crushing great axe is the only one that fits this bill.
>I have 50 monk headwraps because I realized this shit.
>>331299039
Source on armour cant be upgraded?
>>331301367
>having that much patience to sit through that fucking cutscene 50 times, and probably 60 more for all the people that died on the way up or disconnected
>>331292745
what does this have to do with ANYTHING?
>>331295342
"hurrr I dunno how damage is calculated"
"durr whats split damage?"
you've never pvp'd, anon.
>not pvping in a game whos INTRO shows black phantom invasions
>Not using your black sign to regain human form
>>331292632
10/10 like BB was
>>331292632
Hoping it will be good, expecting it to be mediocre, will play it anyways if it's shit.
>>331301774
>waiting patiently for them to come all the way up past AAAAAALLLL those squid fuckers, then 1-shotting them with a rolling r1 before they even cross the fog wall.
to this day, I've never had as much fun standing around.
my hype just kept building while standing in that dusty room
>>331301071
Holy shit this
I hope to god they can top BB.
>>331302201
doesn't seem like they'll be able to pull it off with the weapons, though. We've seen the first four hours from a fuckload of different sources and the amount of new shit is very minimal.
Demon's souls> Bloodborne+dlc=Dark Souls+ DLC> Dark Souls > Bloodborne>>>>>Dark Souls 2
The combat is strictly worse then BB from the videos and from my time with the network tests.
It could still be potentially better then DeS/DkS1 tho'.
>>331301907
hownew.ru
>tfw no armor as cool as the elite knight set
>>331302428
>>331294362
>>331294187
you're trying too hard to fit in with the DeS shill.
aggreed that DaS2 the worst in series though.
at this point the DeS meme is people trying very hard to pretend theyre "le oldfags" and failing.
I will ask you once.
what was your build/stats in DeS?
which enemy dropped pure bladestone
which 2 weapons ignored shield damage reduction
Which spell allowed running magic to be toggled?
who helps you against penetrator?
What boss comes directly after penetrator?
what prerequisite is necessary for white fog to lift from 1-2?
and finally, how many iframes are your rolls gimped by in water?
>Is DaS3 going to be good?
This can be brought down to a simple question:
Did Bamco fire everyone at From and employ a new, actually competent team?
>Yes
Then DaS3 is going to be good
>No
Then DaS3 is going to suck
Simple as that.
>>331302587
At least we have it back with glorious cloth physics!
>>331302704
I will add to my post another question, whats the optimal way to increase drop rate?
>>331302704
faith, Mirdan Hammer
black phantom dual katana skeleton
shotel (?), LSoM, Blind
never used that glitch
Biorr
False King Allant
kill an archdemon
0
>>331302704
>posting retarded questions that anyone can look up online
>>331302704
BBS icat luck/int
Black skel
Moon/Blind
You could toggle with any projectile projectile as a base? Looks like you didn't even know yourself.
Biorr.
Allant.
Archdemon kill.
BWT for drops.
Don't know about the water thing. Also, I know more than you.
>>331302587
What the fuck did you just say about me, you little bitch?
>>331303165
Shuttup chubs.
>>331302704
>which enemy dropped pure bladestone
I literally tried to get the bladestone for 10 hours straight and still didn't get it and people on youtube got it in like 5 min.
>I will never platinum des cause of that shit.
>>331302587
get out
>>331302704
>DeS meme
fuck off faggot.
>>331292632
If I'm being honest I haven't even looked too much into it.
I am confident that From will do a good job with this coming fresh of the heels of BB.
If they let BB influence the formula for DS it will be a good thing. The combat in DS could be a little more hectic and intense like in BB. They would be crazy not to learn from it.
Plus, if what they said is true, this is the last dark souls game. So they know they have to get it right.
Sometimes the third time really is the charm.
The only thing I see going wrong is that they have simply run themselves dry of anything imaginative and DS3 becomes an imitation of old From tropes with no confidence to try anything new.
>>331292632
I think it will be the definitive Souls experience.
As in, 10 years later everyone will recommend playing Dark Souls 3, because it includes the best of all 4 games
>>331302704
"you have a heart of faggot, don't let them take it from you"
>>331302704
>Shill
Shill doesn't mean "person you don't like" you fucking clown.
Demon's Souls is completely fucked on a gameplay level, but that doesn't change the fact that it has the best level design, atmosphere, and writing in the series by far. It doesn't bullshit you by hiding essential story infromation from you, it treats bosses as unique encounters instead of just ebin 1v1 encounters, and it doesn't have a neutered multiplayer with a shitty covenant system. Dark Souls was a downgrade in every single way except basic mechanical balance, and even then it's still a complete mess.
>>331302885
Sorry, the answer was not "false king allant, but "blue dragon."
also you could not roll at all in water, you would only stagger, so the answer is ALL OF your iframes. you lose.
>>331303117
same with you fag.
the optimal way to toggle is with firespray, or any CONTINUOUS magic.
also you forgot about water stagger in the fucking swamp and blue dragon as well.
lastly for both of you, the answer to optimal grinding is to have 99 luck, large sword of searching, AND THEN black phantom/black world tendency.
THEN AFTER GRINDING HAVE A FRIEND SOULSUCK THOSE 99 LEVELS OUT OF YOU.
you guys suck
I am more looking forward to jolly cooperation with my friend than anything
>>331294914
Freja, spiderspawn of seeth in DS2
>>331303563
>Doesnt have neutered multiplayer
>multiplayer is literally dead
>cant even invade in 1-1 with a lvl 1 scraping spear char.
pls anon, can you try any harder to fit in?
Or will you repost this convo to reddit while whining about getting ousted because you werent "le cool oldfag" enough
>>331294836
>giant spider shoots fireballs
>okay
>giant spider shoots laser
>uninspired trash
>>331292632
I'm very apprehensive about it since I haven't played BB.
I sunk over 1k hours into DeS when it was new as well as DS 1 + 2.
>>331303570
> he thinks the blue dragon is a boss fight.
>>331302704
>>331303570
Falseflag DES fags get BTFO by person who's actually played game
my sides, I knew you guys were fake tryhards
>when ur bf asks for a bj and he been holdin his nut for 3 days.jpg
>>331303570
No. You're wrong.
Any projectile that doesn't halt movement in startup can be used as a base for toggle. All the flamejets and soul arrows can be used just as fire spray is with different effects. You know basically nothing. Spray is just the best because it's so damn fast.
Tell me, what happens when you toggle a cloud?
How about HSA?
Let's see what you really know.
>>331303852
>what is a boss soul
>what is a midboss
>what is a trick question the wiki wont give you the right answer for?
; ^ )
Bb=Das >= DeS>>>>>>>>> Das2
>>331301774
>9/10 people never make it past the squid heads
>finally after an agonizing battle of attrition, one guy makes it through the fog
>I turn around and lock on and my homing soul mass OHKOs him
>>331302116
Played through the game once and I rekt the faggot that invaded me, that was fun
I was just using the basic spear, I don't have time to sit around a read guides then play the game. Shit.
>>331303997
I know more about DeS than anyone in this shithole and I still probably would have answered Allant.
>>331303987
If you toggle a cloud, it becomes invisibru.
to hilarious effect
homing soul arrow is basically the same as any pursuing magic in any souls game, but it has a block break effect in des.
the fun shit is the talisman of beasts though, sonce you can cast with it even if you dont meet stat requirements, particularly curse weapon, since you gain all the be efits, but no detriments.
So what does being an "Unkindled One" mean?
>>331303997
> blue dragon midboss
and the three phantoms were regular enemies in your books?
fuck off loserd you got btfo
>>331303741
Does your mom have to dress you every morning? Community size doesn't have any impact on the basic mechanics of multiplayer. You wanna know what Demon's Souls has? Two basic stones, plus a third one for dueling post game, and you get the first two almost immediately. Dark Souls doesn't let you invade at all early with the exception of the 4 cracked orbs, and it splits the multilayer community up needlessly with half assed covenant so, some of which don't even work (Darkmoon, Gravelord) and have to be leveled up through alternate means in order to make progress quickly. And it only became worse later in the series, with DS2 removing full orbs altogether and Bloodborne forcing you into unfair situations outside of the Nightmares.
I know you think Dark Souls is the best game evarrrr cause it's for mature hardcore players like you, but don't try to pretend that its shit doesn't stink.
>>331304245
HSA sometimes becomes invisible when toggle cast.
Also, I know aboit ToB trick; I invented it.
>>331304170
>not expecting a trick question on a loaded test
>furthermore not expecting it on a seemingly too easy question
it happens to us all anon.
sure. fucking. does.
>Tfw I explored all zones at pw and Pb tendency way way way back
>and made edits to the wiki pages you probably have used
Scirvir is a cunt, but everyone just remembers 2kat
>>331304290
if its not a boss.....
why does it drop a BOSS SOUL?
: ^ )
also yes, all phantom type enemies are par the course/regular.
anyone fucking around with world tendency can tell ya that, faggot.
>>331304327
>im the only one to try using a catalyst without the stats for one of its dual stat requirements
Try harder
>>331304564
It doesn't drop a boss soul though. It drops a unique soul. It's an optional enemy in a mandatory area that drops a soul that can only be used for consuming.
>>331304624
Before me nobody did it or it least used it in PvP.
>>331304295
At least souls has a community still playing, unlike des, which is literally 0.
So there are literally no multiplayer mechanics, because theres no multiplayer.
>bet you think Das is blah blah blah
technically if we go pvp wise, it should look like this
>DeS>BB>Das>DaS2sotfs>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS2
backstab meta brings Das lower than BB, which has so many broken weapons that its balanced. DeS EVERYTHING is broken therefore it is balanced. DaS2, Soul memory is broken, so its shit.
PVE
Das=BB>DeS>Das2sotfs>>>>>>>>>>DaS2
Its a fact the connected world was great and universally praised by everyone on this board at the time, as well as multitude of weapons.
>>331304564
I don't like your attitude, you're grounded for a week.
>>331304989
Too bad she probably has a flat butt.
>>331293125
>If you didn't like bloodborne you don't own a ps4 and never played it
Stop the sonygger mentality, ppl are allowed to not like things you like, I didn't think it was that great either compared to DaS and DeS
>>331303570
>Sorry, the answer was not "false king allant, but "blue dragon."
Blue dragon isn't a boss.
>also you could not roll at all in water, you would only stagger, so the answer is ALL OF your iframes. you lose.
alright, haven't played it in years, I'll give you that one.
I would go and take pics of my platinum trophies (NA and EU) but I have no reason to prove that I've played the game.
>>331302704
>trying this hard
>>331304704
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/bosses
technically, flamelurkers soul doesnt do anything either, aside from hading it over to the blacksmith for meme weapon creation. does that make him not a boss?
>>331292632
94% on pcgamer, 100 ign , people will argue about 360 button prompts, console textures, short (looking back at das2)
>>331304983
A connected world doesn't mean shit if the levels themselves aren't interesting at all. The only good areas are the Undead Burg/Parish, Blighttown, and Ariamis, with the rest being mediocre at best. Demon's Souls may not have had a connected world, but its levels were more unique and organic than anything in Dark Souls. The only low point was 2-2 and maybe 4-2 on multiple playthroughs.
>>331304704
Check the wiki, dragon is listed as a boss.
same in official guide
>>331305262
But his soul does do something, because it's used in a quest line that's actually quite useful for most characters, unlike the dragon souls which only give more souls, which can also be acquired by grinding . You're also conveniently ignoring the fact that he's absolutely mandatory and drops an archstone upon death.
>>331305393
I have the official guide in my hands right now. Archstone bosses are referred to as Major Demons, and the last bosses of their respective areas are Archdemons. The Red Dragon and Blue Dragon aren't referred to anything but their names, not even once.
>>331305392
fuck the bearbugs they are insufferable until you get soulsuck.
4-2 is mandatory for grinding pure bladestone. personally, I found latria to not be as bad as people say it is probably because I had stormruler with me the whole time.
>undead parish(world 1), the kiln(great old one), new londo(world 3), lost izalith(world2 even has identical end boss), blighttown (world 5), Catacombs(world4-2), NOT being the EXACT SAME SHIT from DeS?
goddamn man.
>>331305947
>slayer of demons
>not slaying EVERY demon.
I make it a point to kill those fuckers every playthrough.
>>331292632
from what I've seen, it will be mediocre
won't top DS1, DS2 is just a shit game all around would be hard to not make a better game this time
so the game will probably fun, but won't last
>>331305947
funny that the wiki has em listed under the boss section, huh?
or maybe you just like skipping optional bosses.
>>331306575
>the FANMADE wiki
>official source
>>331305392
Ash lake was cool as fuck faggot
>>331306567
those weapon arts and neopoise are make or break.
this will go very well or verry veeerrrry bad.
at least the weapons will be high in quantity, and quality. i hope builds dont get crippled though.
>>331306624
>still ignoring the fact that it drops a demon soul, and the game organizes it into the same group as the rest of the boss souls.
pls.
>>331304989
>>331304290
>>331303852
>trying to derail the thread with women
Are you 14?
>>331306849
and too young to have enjoyed DeS in its prime, id bet.
hohoho, a tryhard trying too hard to fit in gets ousted again!
>>331294087
I like that, despite having no first-hand experience of the topic, you feel confident in wieghing-in on it anyway.
>>331306816
>no boss health bar
>no music
>optional and located within another bosses stage
>no archstone upon defeat
>no DEMON WAS DESTROYED text
Not a boss.
I need to stop looking at these threads l keep almost buying a console to play souls on
>>331292883
Lmao found the dude who's car was crashed into
>>331306324
None of those comparisons work outside of the very first one, which is quite fitting because they both have great design and ease the player into the world they're about to enter.
The Kiln and Great Old One are only similar in that they're corridors to the ending. The aesthetic, progression, and tone are vastly different.
Lost Izalith is only similar to Stonefang in the fact that it's the "lava level" of its respective game. Izalith is an illogical series of fantasy Dravidian ruins, while Stonefang is a comparatively realistic ore mining site with a temple at the very end, and a proper sense of flow.
New Londo is nothing like Latria, I don't know how you reached that conclusion.
Blighttown is definitely another attempt at VoD, but it's a worse experience overall. Not bad by any means though.
Catacombs shits in 4-2. They're other spooky skeleton level since, but Catacombs is very intricately designed while 4-2 has the dishonor of being the only non-3 level with no shortcut or alternate path.
>>331292632
Better than Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne.
I'm expecting a real souls game again with replayability and a not broken online component.
>>331307062
why dont you remove the dragons from the wiki page then? gotta change that mistake, right?
better also alter the hex code so that dragons souls arent mixed up with the OTHER, ACTUAL boss souls, amiright?
>>331307286
lost izalith literally has the same end boss.
bed of chaos=really shitty version of dragon god.
new lond is like latria in that A. narrow walkways everywhere, and B. darkwraiths soulsuck you very similarly to how octodads drain your life on stun.
>>331297675
D'awww
If they take cues from DS1, it'll be shit, if they take cues from DS2 it will be good and BB will be mediocre.
>>331303997
>Bb=Das >= DeS>>>>>>>>> Das2
This guy's right
>>331308940
bb was shit.
At best it will be on par with Bloodborne, at worst it will be worst that Dark Souls 2.
I do not see any middle ground based upon the kinda shit we've seen in previews.
Honestly, DS3 looks like shit. Pandering, busted garbage that is nothing but reused assets and half assed attempts at a conclusion by a man who refuses to write a coherrent narrative.
>>331295342
that's not blessed mirdane hammer +5
>>331309181
>worst that Dark Souls 2
No way, not fucking happening. First 3 location already blow the fuck out entirety of DS2 and Vordt is a much better first non-tutorial boss than any early DS2 boss.
>>331309090
Fuck you, BB was DeS2
>>331308923
>someone either baiting hard or deluded enough from pc posters to actually believe this trash
>>331309415
>BB was DeS2
You wish.
Dark Souls 3 so far looks like it will be Demons Souls 2
>>331309090
timestamped pic of your game+ps4+psn profile.
>>331309496
twist demons souls plot combine with dark souls series? DeS being canon to DaS?
Doesnt DeS make reference to the "soul arts war" or something?
>>331293315
>weapon art extends the charge
Man, I don't even use lances but that is pretty cool.
>>331309676
I'm talking about in terms of gameplay.
Dark Souls 3 plays and feels a lot like Demons Souls.
There are also some mechanics like the mana bar.
>>331309317
See there you go; hyperbole due to excitement for mediocrity. The first 3 location are straight outta Yharnam
>>331296014
Did you pull the leaver? I did.
2000 HP vanished before my eyes, like a magic trick!
>>331309759
Doesnt change the fact that Bb relied on huperarmor out the ass like DeS,
or the umbasa quote they later removed.
also, rolls shared the same iframe tendency as DeS, along with weapon drift.
>>331309957
>Doesnt change the fact that Bb relied on huperarmor out the ass like DeS,
There's also hyperarmor on some of the moves in Dark Souls 3.
>or the umbasa quote they later remove
That quote was retarded and didn't make any sense.
The movement and controls in DaS3 is the closest we will problably get to Demons Souls.
If they don't fuck up the multiplayer and invasions like in the last two games, we will get a great "spiritual" sequel to Demons.
>>331307216
Underrated post
>>331292632
I think it will be great but soulsfags are little bitches that cry and complain about everything. That and nintendoGaf will join the hate bandwagon since they have the only system not geting this game :^)
>>331293315
this seems a bit too op for my liking. even something like the rifle spear was too op in pve in bloodborne, since you could just one shot charge everything
>redditors literally pretend to be excited for the annual meme souls game that is almost identical to last year's version
and then these people bitch about sports games and call of duties
smdh tbqhwy
>>331295817
>90 base damage, making the scaling effectively the same in the end as other weapons
Base damage doesn't matter for scaling in DeS
>>331293315
That's some bullshit range
>>331302704
>which 2 weapons ignored shield damage reduction
There were three
>>331295201
Dat Bayo 2 influence
Considering all of the games are pretty awful, I'm guessing this one will be too.
>>331292632
Mediocre, almost everything looks recycled. Nothing seems new
I'm replaying Dark Souls right now. I really don't understand why so many people put it on such a high pedestal. It is a good game and all. I don't think it's as miraculous as some people portray it to be. I'm having fun though.
>>331304983
>Soul memory is broken, so its shit
DaS should be lowest then since INVASION FAILED and half the covenants not working.
>>331314191
>replaying
>good
>fun
>I don't get why anyone would praise it
this is some kind of next level stupid
>>331309317
>bashes DS2 for having too many bosses that are "dudes in armor"
>DS3 boss he praised is gorilla in armor
>gameplaywise nothing different
I hope you're hyped enough to actually kill yourself when DS3 dissapoints you.
>>331294125Total annihilation's no fun though, it's not like you've had to personally sit and watch the entire time, jerk. Now the dragons win, unless they're already extinct
>>331315427
Funniest thing is DaS2 has 42% of bosses as men in armor and DaS1 has 39%.
>>331292632
I don't care I want Bloodborne 2.
Or something new.
C'mon FromSoft, surprise me !
>>331315427
Where i was bashing DS2 bosses because they are humanoids, degenerate?
They are shit bosses, humanoids or no.
>>331315601
I sure hope there's a way of disabling the white phantom effect without the use of a ring in DaS3.
Good, I even liked DSII. These games are kinda the only games I find fun anymore
>>331315758
It's the only argument there is to bash DS2 bosses over DaS1 bosses.
Also, you were speaking of early bosses which in DS2 are admittedly mostly humanoid.
>>331300303
Lances and Spears are godtier souls weapons.
I speared DS1, lanced DS2. I might continue with a lance build for DS3.
>>331315679
funny thing is DaS had 26 bosses with DLC and DaS 2 had 41. In DaS there were 5 dudes in armour, 9 if you want to count in 4kings, 10 if you want to count in Iron Golem as a dude in armour, 11 if you also count in Gwyndolin even though he's neither a full dude nor wearing armour.
DaS 2 had 18 of them, 20 if you want to count in the 2 Smelter demons, 23 if you want to count in Skeleton Lords, 24 if you want to count in Lost Sinner (who's not wearing armour), 25 if throwing in Prowling Magus (who is again not wearing armour), 26 if you count in Elana summoning Velsdadt (which is a stretch).
>>331316248
>It's the only argument there
then you're blind or have a highly selective memory
in both cases, fuck off
>>331294362
I honestly didn't like DeS or BB at all, because the PS3 controller sucks monkey dick, and I didn't really want to drop another $60 to get a weird modded controller that might be half decent.
>>331316248
>Also, you were speaking of early bosses which in DS2 are admittedly mostly humanoid.
They are also an utter trash which is completely unrelated to them being humanoids.
>>331316627
>26
What? What's your list?
>>331316627
and that's not counting in that for a bulk of the areas, including all 3 DLCs the vast majority of your godamn enemies were - guess who - dudes in armour
>>331294604
It's legitimately a terrible game. You just look like an autist trying to defend it.
>No Lovecraftian atmosphere
>No Cosmic horror coming from the Moon
Won't play it.
>>331316762
That is 26 boss fights, as can be found here: http://darksouls.wikidot.com/bosses
That does not include minibosses, only fights with boss health bars. If you want to stretch it to individual enemies then that makes the percentage even smaller.
>>331316640
>>331316753
>no arguments
>DS2 bosses were shit JUST BECAUSE
>>331309317
Seriously? You're not seeing any similarities with any other Souls bosses?
That moveset look entirely original to you?
>>331316959
No, I mean where are you getting 26 humanoids from? What's your list?
>>331298387
there is literally nothing wrong with Vigor you dumb retard
>>331317125
Just because they have utterly predictable and limited movesets (in case of dragonrider and pursuer it's a frontal dash, 2-3 hit combo and sweep you learn to recognize in 2 minutes of fighting them never being hit before, in case of last giant he's not even trying to hit you), slow as shit and completely destroyed by unlocked play, lack any unique gimmicks, lack atmosphere, lack good design and lack good soundtrack.
It's gotta be better than 2
>>331317259
I don't care about fucking similarities, Fromsoft has been re-using assets since 1994.
What i care about is atmosphere, dynamic, music and visual design, in terms of which Vordt looks fun.
>>331317464
>Just because they have utterly predictable and limited movesets
>lack any unique gimmicks
Then why praise the boss posted in the webm?
Suffers from exactly the same shit. Or did you not play the beta?
>lack atmosphere, lack good design and lack good soundtrack
Agreed, but kinda subjective.
Hard to tell if DS3 will be any better in those regards.
>>331317701
>Then why praise the boss posted in the webm?
He at least has two stages of combat with changed moveset and frostbite gimmick on top of them, which already puts him ahead of absolute majority of DS2 bosses with rare exceptions, mainly from DLC.
>>331317339
That was 26 armoured humanoids.
>Pursuer
>Dragonrider
>Old Dragonslayer
>3x Ruin Sentinels
>2x Dragonriders
>Looking Glass Knight
>Velstadt
>Throne Watcher + Throne Defender
>Ganksquad
>Fume Knight
>Sir Alonne
>Burnt Ivory King
>(OPTIONAL) Elana's Velstadt
>(OPTIONAL) Prowling Magus
>(OPTIONAL) Lost Sinner
>(OPTIONAL) 3xSkeleton Lords
>(OPTIONAL) Nacho Cheese + Cool Ranch Smelter Demons
Drop the optionals and that's still 18 dudes in armour, plus overwhelming amounts of dudes in armour you fight to get to them
>>331317974
humanoid bosses aren't the problem. the best bosses in the series are humanoids
>Artorias
>O&S
>Fume Knight
>Gehrman
>Gascoigne
the problem is that the humanoids have movesets that make them behave like larger versions of normal mobs, so they're boring as fuck and feel like a regular enemy with inflated HP
>>331317974
That's 18, not 26 humanoid boss fights.
>>331317464
Pursuer and Dragon rider is a boss that have comparable moveset to DaS bosses such as the Iron Golem, taurus, sylum demon, ceaseless discharge,capra demon etc.
>lack any unique gimmicks, lack atmosphere, lack good design and lack good soundtrack.
DaS2 have more than double the amount of bosses than DaS.
When it comes to an acceptable form of gimmick, soundtrack, design and atmosphere, DaS2 suprass DaS in raw numbers.
>>331315427
From that webm alone the boss looks nothing like the generic big swordsman from Dark Souls 2. No 3-hit combo, no 2-hit sweep, no overhead. He's exactly like Ludwig, who had those lunge attacks and a laser attack almost identical to the one Vordt does at the end of the webm.
>>331317860
He's nothing different from many SotFS bosses.
2 stages, minor gimmick.
Design is weak at best.
The Dancer of the Frigid Valley would be a good example, as it's moveset and design at least seems unique.
mediocre pandering
it'll just be like DaS2, it doesn't even have the "A team" it just has miyazaki overseeing a bunch of literal whos
>>331318148
Noone said anything to the otherwise, I just pointed out how many armoured humanoids you have to fight. The bulk of the bosses are either "blob monster" "giant animal" or "dude in armour". Fume Knight was a great fight because he punished the standard roll-hit-roll-hit-hit routine with his slow wide sweeps and variety of attacks, but the rest were incredibly predictable unless they bumrushed you in numbers (Which is another boring fuckup from the DaS 2 team, see something like 2cat or ganksquad)
>>331318217
>I hacen't played the beta but I do have an opinion because of a 10 second clip
alright
Can't wait to get invaded. Any news on how that will work?
>>331318175
Not even once i've compared DS2 bosses with DS1 ones.
DS2 bosses are trash on their own.
>>331318217
>he's not exactly like <boss archetype>
>he's exactly like <other boss archetype> so he's good
>>331318245
>Design is weak at best.
He has a lot more details put into than most of DS2 bosses.
Like rare long fur sticking out from his armor or his frost aura or his uncanny movements that combine human ones and beastly ones.
I want the combat of BB with the world design of DaS, so far it looks like that's what we're getting and the hype is literally killing me. We won't know for sure until the game is out though.
My biggest concern is that all the areas are going to be kind of samey. As much as I loved BB, I really missed the map variation of DaS. I hope there's a good mixture of comfy places and nightmarish places and a couple of surreal places.
>>331318165
That's 18 individual humanoid enemies. I counted individual enemies in the Dark Souls 2 humanoids. If you want to boil it down to boss fights alone, that makes it only 4 boss fights where you fight purely humans in armour in Dark Souls, amping up to 7 if you count in the mentioned 4kings, Iron Golem and Gwyndolin. Boil it down to just fights in Dark Souls 2 and you still end up with 12 armoured dude boss fights, or 17 if you add in the optionals
>>331318701
>the game is prettier
ok so now the boss is better I guess
They have a winning formula. It will always be a triumph. Only nit picky no lifers why cry about frames and backstab triggers bitch (after buying lol) and they make up less than 1%
I lost hope with Das2 and felt like souls games in general were out of ideas, but bloodborne really renewed my faith. If its even half as good as that I'm happy.
even if FROM fucks it up again, it cant be worse because it's SL based and not SM
SM almost exclusively killed DaS2 for me
>>331292632
Well, there's more good than bad on the list right now.
>Poise seems to actually work now, no more stunlocks up the ass like in DaS2
>Every weapon has a special ability or special moves
>Bows are better
>Bringing back old movesets but improved on (Greatsword's lightning fast second swing, Claymore, complete revamp of whip, etc.)
>Already has unique weapons (Boss mace, weird machete)
>World feels like a mix of DaS1 and Demon's Souls
>Uses stuff from ALL games: Demon's, Dark 1 and 2, Bloodborne
>Only TWO roll types, light and fat
>No bullshit ADP stat that determines your i-frames on a roll
The things I DON'T really like right now
>Hexes are back, and they were some stupid tryhard garbage for DaS2's story
>DaS2 encouraged you to be a shitter and use these way too much
>The story may take some of the garbage from DaS2's story
I'm more concerned about the lore and stuff rather than hexes, but yeah. It seems fine right now. The Japanese release will tell us all we need to know, assuming we can check without massive spoilers.
>>331318934
How can a game that departed the most out of 'Souls' series renewed your faith?
>>331318808
He's sure better as he's a combination of 2-stage combat, good music, good design and good atmosphere.
>>331318995
It will have BB style invasion restriction with a couple of tweak.
If SM killed DaS2 for you, this one will nail the coffin for you.
>>331319027
>Poise seems to actually work now, no more stunlocks up the ass like in DaS2
there's no actual poise, just 2-hit stunlocks and hyperarmor
>>331318701
Details don't make the design significantly better.
His overal design is boring and par for the course for a Souls game.
Dancer at least looks unique.
>>331319027
>Uses stuff from ALL games: Demon's, Dark 1 and 2, Bloodborne
What are they bringing from bloodborne? I'm curious.
>>331319027
I think hexes this time around are just a variant of miracles, pyromancies are the int/faith scaling spells this time around
>>331319071
By having fantastic boss design and good level design you autistic little cum rag
>>331319098
That has nothing to do with the point that was being made. Good job.
>>331319195
>Details don't make the design significantly better.
Oh no, they are exactly what makes any design good.
>>331292632
shit, then it's going to be mediocre with the dlcs
the ultimate edition will be decent
>>331319203
art style
>>331319071
By being good. Plus it wasn't a huge departure, ctrl + f souls ctrl + h blood, delete shields.
>dark souls 2 is the best
I can easily understand liking DaS, DeS, or BB better than rest but if you think DaS II is the best, or even not the worst, you are wrong and your opinion is worthless.
>>331319176
>It will have BB style invasion restriction
what's that?
>>331318603
I didn't say it was good, retard.
>>331318436
The first phase is more similar, but still more like a Bloodborne boss with all the moving around it does. Even then, I don't think dismissing half of the fight makes it a valid comparision.
>>331314384
You should try actual reading comprehension instead of just skimming.
i'm not thinking about it too much.
i've avoided threads/media until now.
i was hyped for dark souls 2, obviously. hell i remember when it was announced live i nearly stopped breathing just because of how unexpected it was.
DS2 established that it's possible to create a bad souls game
bloodborne established that miyazaki is a genius
i'm going into 3 as much of a blank slate as i can make myself.
my subconscious, however, is BEYOND hyped. i'm trying to contain it, but just yesterday i found out it's released on the last day of classes for me so i'm just about ready.
>>331319265
BB have good bosses that suited to its own gameplay style.
Souls game have its own formula and approach, and as a fan of both series, I rather each of them have their own flare rather than being melted into a single pot.
>>331319475
>specifically brings up Vordt as a reason DaS3 will be good
>b-but I didn't say he will be good
fuck off
>>331319203
weapon arts, artstyle, slight speed up of combat
>>331319514
>bloodborne established that miyazaki is a genius
Reminder that Miyazaki is responsible for DaS2 far longer than Shibuya and created the basework and designs for most of the stuff in it.
>>331319304
Oh okay. I thought they were gonna bring in something crazy like the logarius wheel or something as an easter egggot my hopes up
>>331319595
I wasn't the one who posted the webm, retard.
>>331319395
Shit. It's one of the few bad things in the game. It did make sense within the the setting at least.
tl:dr; You can only get invaded if you coop, or in 2 late game areas (without requiring coop). You can also kill an enemy to stop the invasions from happening.
>>331319683
Nice try but your name clearly says Anonymous on both posts.
>>331319683
Wooow how was I supposed to know that faggot
>>331319756
I think I heard you wouldn't need summons this time?
>>331292632
Mediocre
Just like every single other Souls game.
Fight me.
>>331319376
DaSII is the best mechanically, at least.
It's fighting mechanics are the reason it's online is still alive and well; having shit like viable dual wielding and special weapons meant that it never fell to the same issue as DaS PvP (i.e. only 5 weapons being used in online)
>>331319281
Holy shit you can't be serious.
>>331319903
>only 5 weapons being used in online
warped sword
longsword
estoc
ice rapier
chaos blade
I've never played Bloodborne, but apparently it's fantastic, so maybe they're on the ball again.
So I heard that you can't upgrade armor anymore. So is armor just gonna be like demons souls now? Where it's kinda useful in the beginning, but becomes completely useless in the middle on onwards. I mean I was hoping for good armor like in DS1, since armor was completely useless in DS2, no matter how much you upgraded it, but I guess it'll stop twinks. Still kinda blows if true though.
as long as the netcode is still shit the PvP will be a luckfest that only comptards will defend
>>331320018
>no yorgh's
>>331320165
mid tier at best
never seen it on arena
>>331319903
>das 2 is better mechanically than bloodborne
even dark souls 1 is better mechanically, ADP and DaS II shit clunky movement is awful mechanically, also like this post >>331320018
said certain weapons CLEARLY dominate PvP.
GUYS
was it ever confirmed that Ice Magic usable by the player?
>>331319903
>DaS2 is best, mechanically
>ADP
>SM
>clunky as fuck movement
>despawning enemies
>weapon """""durability""""""
>fucked item discovery
no
>>331315601
>Gets knocked off chain
>Maldron does not fall to his death
fucking maldron
>>331315601
why is this allowed?
>>331321243
Hey, I saw that webm too!
Maldron did get knocked off the chain, but didn't fall!
If you watch the webm, this is what happens in it!
I'm worried the bosses are gonna be too easy.
>>331321412
I would be careful about saying that, we don't know the cuhrazy twist that's going to hit halfway in
>>331320618
Seems to be a lot of emphasis on ice, so I suspect so.
Can't confirm it though, so you just get to suck on my useless post.
>>331321412
Everybody breezed through the beta, so I hope they at least adjust the things we've already seen to be more challenging.
>>331315601
DELETE THIS
DARK SOULS 2 IS THE BEST SOULS GAME
>>331321794
>>331321412
remember when people thought that Ludwig would be boring and easy, since the japanese players were having an easy time of it during the pre-release events?
>>331321412
ign stream was way harder even though girl already knows the game
>>331322037
This gives me hope.
>>331321638
There are some ice swords and a new ice-based bleed-like mechanic, so I'd assume there will probably be some ice magic, but then again theres no bleeding or poisoning direct hit magic. Maybe a frostbite cloud??
>>331292868
I liked ds2 but i will agree the area design was garbage, the distance scaling was fucked and the levels had next to no connectivity. i mean holy fuck, heides tower of flame, okay we're on the sea? then why the fuck is there a cavern that looks out across the sea? its not even a clever sue of impossible space, its just lazy.
>>331322203
people were hypothesizing a class of reverse/corrupted pyro that deals physical damage and also causes frostbite buildup
>>331321412
The build they used in the 45minute highlight reels was a toned down version to give the worse journalists a chance to get good content.
>>331322269
Well obviously I can't say if that will or will not happen, it could be cool depending on how it's done though.
>>331322269
would make sense since that hexes are now reverse/corrupted miracles
what would be reverse/corrupted sorceries?
>>331322356
dark magic was corrupted sorcery in DaS1
>>331322356
Melee weapons :^)
>>331322524
yeah I guess
>>331321150
ADP > clunky ass, full Havels ninjaflipping
SM > INVASION FAILED INVASION FAILED INVASION FAILED GRAVELORDING NOT WORKING
The movement is literally just Dark Souls but you walk faster and can roll in more directions while locked on.
Despawning enemies not an issue.
Weapon durability? What's wrong with it?
>fucked item discovery
wut, the base rate is fine and you get item discovery bonus armor literally at the first merchant you encounter.
>>331322269
>>331322356
I liked the idea that ice magic would be caused by an ash-covered pyro glove.
we know that ash can cool estus, so why not a pyromancy flame, which produces ice instead of fire?
>>331321412
The series has never been hard.
>>331319203
weapon arts
charged attacks
art assets
NPCs reacting to gestures
blood splatter
faster combat
>>331293315
>>331295201
I've been away from the internet for a few days, can I get the source of these?
>>331322956
ign video showing off some new armor/movesets I believe
>>331292941
>thinking anything can top Demons Souls
>>331322726
>bad mechanics aren't bad
>>331323267
>being a hipster
>>331323347
Bad mechanics are better than the worse mechanics they're replacing.
>>331292632
I really do think it'll be good. Even if the games aren't the second coming, they'll at least be enjoyable for a playthrough or two. Basically any game that you'd want to sink 30+ hours into is good at the very least
>>331323486
>ADP is replacing a worse thing
get out
>>331322726
I much preferred clunky as havel flipping to ADP, ADP is a worthless addition to the stat pool because if EVERYONE needs 25 ADP to be viable, then all you've done is add 25 SL onto everyone's builds. All this does is add on 25 more levels to grind that are essentially meaningless, since EVERYONE needs it, it could have just been given to everyone at the start and there would have been no difference.
SM> whatever the fuck happened in darksouls1 pre dscfix. I agree completely on, this is why when me and my friends want to play we pick up darksouls 2 even though all of us universally agree the game is worse.
The movement in darksouls 1 is much faster, you start off with like the equivalent of 100 adp that doesn't need to be leveled. You only get faster in darksouls 2 at like 100 agi.
>whats wrong with weapon durability
Lets not play this game, acknowledge the thing you like has flaws, flaws like the weapon durability ticking down twice as fast in 60fps because physics was linked to framerate.
I have no idea what was wrong with item discovery, so I agree that there is nothing wrong with it.
>>331323574
Yes, the easily exploitable ninjaflipping system of DaS was worse than ADP.
>>331323594
>flaws like the weapon durability ticking down twice as fast in 60fps
Doesn't happen anymore, it was patched.
>>331323640
no it was not worse, because ninjaflips didn't ruin the early game of DaS1
>>331323782
Neither does ADP.
People will pretend it's bad so they can shitpost about it just like le ebin tortanic
>>331319659
I'm sure there will be plenty of unorthodox weapons in DaSIII.
>it's another meme faggots shit on DKS2 thread
I seriously hope this is the last Souls game. I can't wait for this fucking community to die, literally MWF2 era levels of faggotry.
It will be better than Dark Souls 2 but worse than Dark Souls 1.
If it's worse than DS2 then I'll give up on gaming as a hobby entirely.
>>331323640
You're honestly a very weird person.
>>331323884
>pick between borked hitboxes and SHOCKWAVES
>or powerlevel ADP and put up with being critically underpowered for the first few hours of the game
FotFG and Heide's are one of the best-designed levels in DaS2, but they're one of the biggest chores ever to clear, since you either move like you're drunk and coated in molasses, or be weak as fuck everywhere else
>>331324108
People like you are just as bad as them shitdick.
>>331322726
Don't reply to meme lords anon, you are wasting your time. These faggots literally don't play the game, much of what they parrot is still from 2014 e-celeb videos.
>>331316831
It's a pretty damn good game. Only edgy contrarian teens on /v/ disagree.
Its probably the worst in the series, but still way better compared to games in general.
>>331315601
That fucking shrug before he leaves
>>331324210
>borked hitboxes
You mean iFrames that are actually tight instead of casualized like Dark Souls where you roll like an Olympian fresh out the gate? Sorry that you can't clear the first half of the game while in a coma like Dark Souls.
>>331324301
>If say thing me no like it because eceleb and meme. Me only opinion good
[proceeds to attempt to put a cube in a round hole for several hours]
>>331324382
>exposed lingering hitboxes aren't broken
DaS2 hitboxes are only tight after you've softcapped ADP, they suck before that point. It's like the devs said "hey you know what was a fun fight? Ceaseless discharge! Let's make the WHOLE GAME play like that fight unless you pump our new stat!"
>>331293165
>its a pc nigger opens up a salt mine episode
>>331292632
Mediocre, despite what "More" fags say, making the same (very similar) game too many times wears out developers, and decreases their ability to put in quality content.
>>331324541
The hitboxes aren't an issue if you time your rolls correctly.
>>331324521
>[proceeds to attempt to put a cube in a round hole for several hours]
Your mother didn't complain.
>>331294604
it is tho
>>331324658
if the attack physically misses my body, I timed my roll properly. If it connects anyway, that's called "horseshit" and is evidence of laziness and bad game design
>this isn't a bad mechanic because you can still beat the game in spite of it!!!!!!!!!!! :^)
>Meme faggot cucksole pcuck frames frames never ever meme faggot eceleb
There. I've condensed all of your absolutely necessary, riveting dialogue into one sentence. You can stop now.
>>331324734
So, you've never seen a penis or a vagina then? I'll make sure to show your dad both when I'm fucking YOUR mother. He'll pass along the message after he's done openly weeping.
>>331324826
>if the attack physically misses my body, I timed my roll properly
If you got hit you messed up.
>this is a bad mechanic because I'm too used to Dark Souls' pitifully easy rolling mechanics and the second that something demands mechanical competence of my I fold like an accordion and start crying
>>331303885
>>331302704
not even trying to be subtle samefag
>>331324826
No attack physically misses your body no matter how many fucking adaptability you have or what game you play you fucking retard. That's why there are invincibility frames in the first place you meme spouting mongoloid.
>>331323267
DeS had the best level design but that was it. Dark Souls was more polished and had better bosses and equipment variety.
>>331302116
>Using magic warrior build
>Wait in the room
>Enemy appears
>Shoot a Soul Ray or two at them
>They would try to close the gap so they could hit me
>Take out Northern Regalia when they're almost in striking range
>They immediately turn around and run away every time
>Shoot them in the back with Soul Ray until they decide to turn around again and try to fight
>Kill them with Northern Regalia
>Get hate mail
I really hope they do another boss fight like it.
>>331316627
>dudes in armor
>implying they aren't all just sentient pieces of armor
>>331324986
>Only weewees go in the peepee
18+, fuck off.
>>331323750
It's still pretty bad, I played it on the360and my weapons were close to breaking after like 15-20 enemies
>>331302704
Oh! Oh! Let me try!
*I started with strength/faith, but then I started duping and maxed everything like a faggot
*ugh that fucking weeb skeleton, 4-2 I still haven't gotten it >:(
* Hiltless and the Shotel I'm guessing. Great sword of moonlight might be one?
*idk
*biorr of the twin fangs
*Old/False King Allant
*gots ta kill one of them there archdemons
*idk, a lot?
Fuck I miss my ps3
>>331325479
>It's still pretty bad
It's 100% patched.
>>331325554
So did you like not read my post or what
>>331325063
http://orig12.deviantart.net/2c4e/f/2014/094/4/f/reremake_by_aloo81-d7d2zxq.gif
>>331319027
>Only TWO roll types, light and fat
That doesn't sound like a good thing.
>>331325819
No weapon that has average durability breaks that quickly.
>>331324987
>getting hit by attacks that miss you isn't a problem
then why do people get mad at laggy japs, AUs, and brazilians in pvp?
>Le guys in armor meme
It's kind of frightening the kind of lasting damage you get when you couple an autistic e-celeb with the loudest and most vacuous gaming community.
Before Dark Souls 2 all of the best boss fights were against humanoid enemies, after Dark Souls 2 suddenly it became the worst thing ever and then after Bloodbourne it went back to being the best thing ever again. These retards literally run on memes, no wonder the community turned into what it is now.
>>331292632
Dark souls 2 is the only souls I never finished.
DeS>bllodborne=DaS>>>>>DaS2
Hopefully 3 is good but after two im not hyped for it like i was for 2 after Des and Das
>>331326013
Because that's impeding your inputs with lag, you have zero control over that.
>>331326173
but if you got hit, you messed up, so it's still your fault, just deal with it
>>331326246
It's not the same situation. You can learn your effective iFrames without lag as its static, the same isn't true for lag.
>>331326246
Are you literally 12 years old? Fuck off you underage faggot.
>>331324987
>people complain about hitboxes in CD, Manus, O&S, for years ever since DaS1's release
>DaS2 rolls around
>N-NO, LINGERING/LAGGY HITBOXES AREN'T BAD, THEY'RE A FEATURE!!! A F E A T U R E!!!! JUST GET GOOD LMAO :^)
or my favorite
>it's ok when DaS2 does it because it happened in DaS1 as well :^)
I'll admit to being a fairweather das fan, one whose opinion the devs should never take seriously.
But thank FUCK it finally looks good graphically.
>>331326745
The answer was the same then as it is now: get good.
>>331326906
the game isn't literally unbeatable, that means these features are good :^)
>>331322954
Npcs reacting to getures?
that is something so advance, only japan can do something like that.
>>331327027
How else are you meant to defend DaS, though? It's half finished, reuses bosses 6 times, reuses Demon's Souls shit 3 times and in the year 2016 hasn't had the resolution issues officially patched into the game.
>>331292632
I think it's going to be fucking fantastic and I can't wait for it.
Miyazaki is God.
>>331326745
>people complain about hitboxes in CD, Manus, O&S, for years ever since DaS1's release
Are you the same 12 year old faggot as above? You are making shit up. NO ONE complained about shit hitboxes in DKS1, in fact that fucking game still gets carte blanche for everything today, and NO ONE complained about hitboxes in BB as well when they were just as fucked.
Not that hitboxes were ever a major deal in these games, because it's a natural part of game design, but they were apparently in DKS2 because e-celeb + parrots = meme
>>331327238
why the fuck would people still be working on DaS1 in 2016 after DaS2, BB, and DaS3? Are you going to complain that they still have no plans on adding in the 6th archstone into DeS?
>>331296537
This well said
>>331327286
>NO ONE complained about shit hitboxes in DaS1
>NO ONE complained about shit hitboxes in BB
holy fuck, the historical revisionism is strong with this one
>>331327396
Because it's literally broken on PC and easily fixed with user made mods, a competent studio would integrate it via official Steam mods. People can bitch about Dark Souls 2, but it's not an objectively broken piece of shit like Dark Souls is.
>>331327286
>the same things can't be made worse in different games
>I'll just say it's not their own opinion, that'll prove my argument
>>331326847
It looks worse than BB so far, I hope that it looks on par when it comes out.
>>331327286
hitboxes in BB were nowhere near as fucked, the handful of bug webms you see on /v/ aren't how the game really is. I have never had an instance in BB where an attack that shouldn't have hit me did, and that very rarely happened in DaS except for a couple select bosses.
It happens often in DaS II though.
>>331327567
so your argument is that ADP is a good feature because the PC port of DaS1 is sub-par? wew lad
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Souls-III-Estus-Flask/dp/0744017068/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1458412674&sr=8-4&keywords=dark+souls+3
what the fuck 80 quid for this
>>331327686
I agree BB looks better but it's just so refreshing not to be trying to play through mud.
>>331327837
I've already given my argument as to why ADP is fine.
>>331292632
Mediocre
>>331328010
what do you mean?
>>331325964
The ones I'm using do
>>331327824
What an amazing coincidence, i have never had an instance of it happening on DKS2 and i must have 300+ hours in that game.
>>331328034
your argument is that it isn't OK to dislike anything that isn't a random CTD bug, because they don't make the game actually unplayable
that's not a good argument
>>331328192
Denial can work wonders
It'll probably be good but it'll not be better than dark souls.
It'll probably go like this
Dark souls > dark souls 3 >>>>>>>>>> pure shit >>>>>>>>> dark souls 2
>>331328083
The fucking texture work and the look of the world in das and 2. It triggers me like a dyke at a straight bar. I like the art direction but the presentation as a whole just puts me right the fuck off. 3's got the fidelity increased to the point where I can put that behind me.
Shallow as fuck I know, and hardly a rational complaint. But still.
>>331328205
No, my argument is that something being tight isn't an issue just because you're used to a more casual version of it. The fact that you're brushing off LITERALLY game breaking problems but nitpicking "waaah I'm too shit to learn how to roll with less leniency" shows that you're a drone.
I think it's going to be shit
>Powerstancing removed
>Back to the retarded IP pool matchmaking rather than what it was in DS2
>Basically two things DS2 did that pretty much everyone agrees were improvements
>removed
B-but look at all these Dark Souls 1 references guys! It's basically the same game, right?!
>>331328238
>That physical evidence is totally bogus mate, take my word for it, it's totes not true.
>LOL am i suppose to take your word for it? Nice denial bruh XD
I just hope drinking Estus isn't tied to a stat again
>>331328469
It's back to DKS1 matchmaking?
EL OH FUCKING EL now i hope that's true. Truly pandering, the game.
>>331328370
but they aren't tight. hardcapped ADP hitboxes are tight, we've all seen the scholar drakekeeper/fume knight webms. >>331325845
is a tight hitbox. Hitboxes cause your character to take damage on whiffed hits are the opposite of tight, you're a very confused person, anon
>>331328520
what physical evidence?
>>331328739
>hitboxes in BB were nowhere near as fucked, the handful of bug webms you see on /v/ aren't how the game really is
>>331327567
And yet it's still more fun and better made than DaS2.
Soundtrack has been leaked but does anyone know the exact number and names of areas or at least an approximate?
>>331328469
>Powerstancing removed
no one cares faggot
>>331328680
It does in all versions we've seen so far, and this close to launch that's unlikely to change.
>>331328867
Nah, Dark Souls 2 is objectively better mechanically and graphically and doesn't CTD or make you fall through the map if you uncap the FPS.
Gonna wait for reviews/until I can actually play the game
>>331329019
>Dark Souls 2 is objectively better mechanically
Your hitbox lags during rolls so that you can get hit where you were rather than where you are. Adaptability doesn't even fix that, it just gives you more I-frames.
>>331328791
there are literally like 3-4 webms of hitbox bugs in BB and they are just that, bugs. They are also never of boss fights.
You can boot up DaS II and experience bad hitboxes easily for yourself, the same cannot be said for BB. You would know if you could play it.
>>331329070
you'll get 3 weeks of footage from the japanese release, is that good enough?
>>331329143
You fall through the map in Dark Souls and your rolls don't guarantee your safety because the hitboxes are equally janky. You can't cite something about Dark Souls 2 that is as bad as THE GAME LITERALLY NOT FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY.
>>331329163
>implying I'm not cutting my internet for those 3 weeks
>>331328302
I thought Dark Souls 1's world was fucking beautiful. There were some lame, empty looking places here and there but overall I thought the art direction was fantastic.
>>331329403
well, at least you won't have to fuck around with day 1 bugs like the japanese will, they will probably be patched by then
>>331329143
>These same faggot from the previous thread posting this made up bullshit
God you are pathetic
>>331329019
>Dark Souls 2 is objectively better mechanically
Fuck no, you can't even combo r2's into r1's. What a shit fucking game.
>>331329156
If you think I'm gonna waste my time dumping links you are sorely mistaken. All you need to do to call your bullshit is type "Bloodborne hitbox" or "Bloodborne bullshit" on youtube.
>>331329710
All I can seem to find that is actually a problem is the chalice watchdog which was patched, and either way Dark Souls II STILL has way more shit hitboxes.
So do you have a PS4 and BB? Have you played it?
>>331329453
Yeah the art direction was great, like I mentioned. I just thought the actual game assets looked mostly like puke.
Well, that's a bit strong. I just never felt like the games presentation lived up to the imagination that went into it. I can't help but feel it's fundamentally ugly, even where it's still pretty/striking. But not artistically ugly, just 'this still looks like king's field' ugly.
Could never quite get past it.
>>331328469
your first point was ok but the rest was all retard
>>331316883
Why would you play any souls game then? Bloodborne didn't even have that shit until about half way through.
>>331330738
Victorian Era aesthetics are Lovecraftian.
>>331292632
It will be great. Look at this screenshot.
>>331331271
I-is that a...
GIANT
ENEMY
CRAB?!
>>331331271
this will be on the way to Aldritch
screencap this post
>>331331428
ATTACK ITS WEAKPOINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE
>>331330921
what the fuck are you talking about? Victorian aesthetics are gothic, Lovecraft wrote the majority of his setting in his contemporary time, which was early 20th century
>>331331771
I don't get the origin of this meme
>>331331847
Victoria died on 22 January 1901. Lovecraft was born on August 20, 1890. It's not that big of a leap.
>gothic
You don't know shit you're talking about, do you?
It's gonna be shit.
>>331333125
>gothic horror
>>331331271
Looks like a game made for 12 year olds on the Nintendo Dreamcast.
>>331331271
>entire area flooded with water
JUST SLOW MY SHIT DOWN F4M
>>331333524
hope you brought your very old rusted iron ring :^)
>>331293612
Not the same. Dark Souls 1 told the story through implications, character motivations, descriptions, area layout, character actions, myths and legends. It was vague for a purpose, to keep the player looking to understand the world better through living through it.
Dark Souls 2 told the story thought Item descriptions. That's it.
>>331333430
Did he sharpen the blade or something?
>>331333430
Is that a boss weapon or just a regular greatsword
>>331316697
> He doesn't like the PS3 controller
Let me guess, you don't like the PS4 controller either? I honestly don't understand this. The PS4 controller is literally perfect. I don't ever want to game with anything else. And the DS3 controller was like a smaller prototype for the DS4. Both are much better than the clunky Xbox controllers.
>>331333672
it's a tonitrus-tier weapon art
Its insane how much faster this is than DaS/2. Knight isn't fatrolling at the start, you can move while using Estus, and stamina costs doesn't seem massive
>>331333443
>my 4chen memes are better than le reddit memez
>rare pepes anyone? ecksdee
>implying it's not all shit
>implying you're not taking an anonymous forum wya too fucking seriously
>implying you made me mad
>IMPLYING YOU MADE ME FUCKING MAD
>>331334191
Miyazaki understands the importance of fluid, responsive movement in souls games
>>331334191
>Its insane how much faster this is than DaS/2
I'm not sure if I like that.
I enjoyed it in Bloodborne, as a change of pace, but I really ejoyed the flow and feel of combat in DaS1. That seems completely gone.
>>331334272
>conbabgulations u fell 4 my mastr bait wats the ztep for ur mastir plan
>xD
>>331292632
It'll probably be at least good just like the rest of the dark souls games. Even 2 was fine, bad by comparison to the other games that were great, but still good.
>>331292632
Mediocre shit, i will not buy it unless i m sure its a long game and there was no downgrade.
>>331334459
a lot weapon arts seem dedicated to allowing you to slow the game back down without being punished, like by giving you infinite poise and shit
>>331302704
wow a quizz you sure are smart, how could i ever those answers without playing the game?
>>331334739
Oh golly.
Why are chimes and talismans 2 different weapons in Das3?
>>331334459
I feel they need to give the bosses we have seen like 10-25% more HP. They die so fast.
>>331335495
weapon arts
there will probably be a generic art for chimes and a generic art for talismans
>>331335741
Also, is it just a placeholder that the wiki has at least 10 empty slots for different pyro flames?
>>331336004
Probably
It's more of a game than DoAX3
If I'm going to end up getting all the DLC anyway, should I get the season pass?
>>331336356
do you believe that they won't pull a Scholar and release DLC outside of the season pass?
>>331315601
definitely inexcusable, and a sound strategy, but maybe if this guy wasnt shit, he wouldn't have to cheese maldron in the first place.
>>331315926
>NPCs can animation cancel
who thought this was OK?
>>331293315
Heres to hoping the sexiest armor from DaS1 doesn't have shit stats/weight ratio this time around.
>>331336476
They did that? I didn't follow any news on DaS2
>>331337128
no they didn't
>>331337128
They did but it's really doubtful they'll do the same thing with 3 since with 2 they were releasing it on next gen consoles for the first time.
>>331337208
>>331337339
WHICH ONE IS THE TRUTH?
>>331304290
s-s-s-source?
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