underrail thread
last thread archived before I could ask a question:
Is persuasion or intimidation too important? I'm thinking of dropping them in favor of more crafting skills for my build
>>322060694
No.
>>322060694
Not too important. You can't get the good end of some quests without them, but other than that they aren't of much use.
It's debatable, the social skills are all pretty 50/50 in what you get back. Not too many intimidation/persuasion options but they are there.But what do I know, I almost always start a new character with doctor+packrathound.
Posting best tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_vK7-svWs
>>322060694
Not really. Pers doesn't influence nearly enough shit to be of importance and the best use intimidation is tied to a feat.
It's serious time mother fuckers.
Psi builds are quite powerful, that's true.
What about mono Psi builds though? Like Thought Control only.
Would that be a challenge to play through the game with Thought Control being your only means of offense?
>>322060934
>>322060989
>>322061108
All right, I'm definitely dropping that for more crafting.
>>322060694
For everything practical to gameplay, Persuasion is irrelevant.
For Story it's a hard-requirement for a pretty good number of endings.
>>322061121
You can get pretty far. But you'll have to branch out to using grenades 'n' shit, every so often. Also, bots will wreck your shit if you're pure thought control.
>>322061049
I went to school with the guy in that picture
>>322061049
You had better also get Intimidation so you cansave Cliff
>>322061049
that kid is madcool
how good are regenerative vests? i just found Blaine and he's selling a decent one.
>>322061121
Only thought control can't do jack shit to bots.
>finally craft my first sniper rifle
>go into battle
>44% chance to hit
>rises to 58% at the edge of vision
>character can't see far enough to get decent hit rate
How did I let myself get suckered into this. I knew a sniper wouldn't be any good in caves.
....Fast metabolism or Nimble for a Psi character
I know, those two feats suck ass but it's for level 1, I don't have much of a choice here.
there some reason as to why fallout is a shooter, this gameplay just doesn't work. its not intuitive or inmersive. like i created a character, accepted the psiconics path but in order to learn a skill i had to do a quest. good, the quest was to shoot a rathound with a special bolt (i got 2 of them) but i chose a firearm instead of a crossbow before and the crosbow was expensive as hell and no way my character could adquire it. so i could not do the quest or powers. eventually i steal a crossbow i go and shoot a rat, i miss the first shot but landed the second, once i killed the rathound and picked up what it left i ran to complete the quest only to learn i got one of these things to level up, a rathound ear or something, so shooting and killing the rathound wasnt enough apparently or there is a drop rate, and with only 2 bolts, good. now my character is stuck at completing that quest and is usable to get its psiconic powers. really there no way to inmerse yourself in a game that just doesnt make sense.
>>322061750
fast metabolism. psi boosters boost more
>>322061438
Get night vision goggles
>>322061438
should've gone with a crossdressing trap that has decent stealth build
hitting niggas with my bolt all day long
>>322061108
>Best tune
>Not Protectorate
You had literally one job, and you still fucked it up.
what else have you lot found
20 / 1 / 14 / 2
Man I love the music that plays when you're just exploring the caves. It's so damn comfy.
>>322060694
>>>/vg/
It's time.
>>322062439
it's a big step
>>322062439
At least let a month pass from release before going to /vg/.
>>322062023
>>322062439
>>/utg/
Has anyone tried a knife+throwing knife build yet? There seems to be tons of perks for it, so I might make that my next character.
>>322061990
I stumbled upon the Bieretta 27 today, had a right giggle
>>322062669
>A month of shilling before the blessed relief of /vg/ exile
pls no
>>322062439
/vg/ is a trap you never get out of. We'll devolve into a mess of circlejerking and non-discussion. Most posters will vanish and no-one will ever talk about the actual game ever again.
Just entered Depot A through the wormhole. Are the muties and dogs killing each other? I'm just sitting in one of the first rooms and there are constant explosions, barking and shooting coming from outside.
>>322062976
you can't even post waifu butts, there's literally nothing to discuss on vg about this game
help me out here
premeditation
last stand
or meditation
>>322063004
One of the dogs ran into the mines
The explosion attracted the rest of them, and they also found the other mines
>>322062875
>shilling
It's anons enjoying a game.
The game was recently released and people are gonna drop in and out of the thread and if there's no thread they'll make a new one since they're unaware of the /vg/ thread.
/vg/ is where threads go when general interest in the game dies down and all that's left is a few retards participating in some inane circlejerk.
>>322063709
>It's anons enjoying a game.
*Wink* ;D -_O
>>322063389
Premeditation.
>>322063785
Go back to your LOL threads.
>>322061990
Not bad
>>322063709
In case you haven't noticed he's the faggot that's been shitting up these threads because he felt that the game was unbalanced because his specific build wasn't a fucking swiss army knife that didn't roll all the content
>>322063420
Fun.
How often do enemies respawn there? Is it safe to leave and get myself patched up, or do I have to do this in one go?
>>322061990
Still trying to find the other claw. (Not the one in the sewers.)
>>322064435
I don't know the exact time but I'm pretty sure it's definitely more than an hour, you'll be able to run to Fixer and back
>Game blesses me with a cool looking robe drop
>Offers no protection (which i'm fine with I suppose)
>Comes with a penalty of -2 perception
What
a
load
of
fucking
shit
I just want to wear a fucking robe.
What are some must have feats for a crossbow user? I'm looking at concussive shots or kneecap shot right now. Doing traps and throwing (mostly for grenades) on the side, as well as a bit of crafting, if that helps give an idea of what I should go for.
>>322061438
I had 70-80 at medium distance with my 1st crafted sniper, without a bipod.
You can't expect to have 95% at max range from get go. Use bipod mod a normal scope for +20% precision early on, throw flares amd lure enemies into them, get night vision goggles asap.
Snipers are able to one shot everything in the game. Well except the Final boss, needed 2 for him, still took my one turn.
>>322064732
i prefer knee shot despite implied memes
>>322064592
is it only the animals that respawn or do the mutant with guns also respawn?
>>322065013
mutants with guns don't respawn
the ones without guns do
>>322064076
Actually anon whenever I viable-post it's because these threads are full of people telling people every build is viable, then tell them to avoid entire feats and skills as they're completely useless. Just like on Steam where people will say with a straight face Underrail is a story game. And on another forum the Underrail thread goes a week with no posting until someone posts "Hey no let's not let this thread die!"
http://steamcommunity.com/app/250520/discussions/0/458604254430186936/
My build got me through Depot A just fine, then I stopped playing because I gave the game that long to get interesting and it didn't.
>>322065013
I'm pretty sure the muties don't respawn, not sure about the mutants.
>>322064732
I go with
Interlopper 2
Quick Tinkering 4 (tr 25)
Trap Expert 6 (tr 30)
ambush 8 (st 40)
Opportunist 10
special tactics 10
sharpshooter 12
critical power 16
deadly snares ( tr 50)
elemental bolts
sprint 20
don't recommend wasting points on throw since you can use it from the get go and it's more of an "oh shit" button. Lots of fun putting a bear trap in a door way and throwing a molotov inside a room packed with enemies to watch them burn
I got some "cybernetic spawn" to deliver and told the Protectorate head honcho about it and he told me to go visit his second-in-command.
I'm not finding him? The wiki doesn't say anything about this option for the bug either so, I don't know.
>>322065151
Cancer is a hell of a drug
I am sorry you couldn't enjoy the game, I nearly dropped it at Depot A too
>>322064732
Take all the crossbow related feats, all of them are worth it.
Aimed shot and Snipe will be used the most frequently so get them fast, kneecap is really good too.
>>322065402
I leveled up some throw just cause otherwise the chance to throw things in the proper spot seems to be pretty low. I was running a build before with 0 throw and i kept blowing myself up. I don't really know a good spot to stop though, i'm at 20 right now and I feel like I have too few points to go around, so that might be my limit.
>>322064592
Thanks, bro. So one hour then. I better get to work.
>>322065420
He is outside, in front of the Protectorate. The guy who unlocked the door for you.
To the guys that have 10 Perception, I have question.
How many "secret areas" do you actually find? Is it a good amount or are they few and far between?
>>322064832
Didn't exactly expect to be a deadshot, but definitely didn't think it's range would be limited by character's vision. I better try that night vision goggles but might redo and go assault rifles.
>>322065852
Quite a few actually.
I'm at the "Go to core city" quest and I've found 6-7 hidden stashes with a handful more secret doors and what not.
It's pretty crazy seeing them pop up when I never saw them before, not to mention the godawful loud-ass noise it plays to notify you.
FSSSSSSSSHHWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>322065916
Night vision goggles are a must. They ofyen bump your hit chance from 40-50 to 95 in dark areas.
>>322065934
No.
It's the only way to get top tier gear.
>>322065852
There's fuck all, the only slightly useful secret is a vendor and I have no idea what Per you need to spot it.
>>322065934
stop posting any time
>>322063420
>The explosion attracted the rest of them, and they also found the other mines
As it turned out a turret gunned down about five muties and a few dogs. Probably a good thing.
>>322066325
kill yourself
>>322066080
This game impresses me more and more.
Is the Psychosis feat worth it for psi?
+15% critical chance but +20% all psi costs more action points
>>322060694
>make a mine field full of traps of every kind
>plant TNT near it, but not near enough to set the mines off
>all the enemies go to check the explosion
>2 die right away from huge mine chain reaction, rest gets caught in the poisoned bear traps and bleeds to death
Love being a trapper
>>322066547
See (you) tomorrow
>>322062439
fuck you, I made this thread to ask a specific question you fucking faggot.
I'm very new to this game.
Do you have any tips for a complete noob?
>>322066734
Worth it if you push your critical chance by all means possible with psi headband, drugs and other feats.
That said, tranquility is more reliable early on, and you can get crits on demand later on.
>Made a Thought Controlling, persuasive female character
Is this real life?
>>322066906
Enemies walk over their own traps.
Bumrush any enemy that uses crossbows or psi right at the beginning of the right, or you will have a bad day.
>>322066906
>start the game
>make the build you wanna make
>die repeatedly
>restart
>check the wiki for feats
>fix the build
>actually start the game
>>322066714
They effectively negate all the light penalties. You probably won't find them before after Depot A, so try throwing flares so the enemies run into them for a clear shot, shot those who are in a bright area first, and get that bipod mod.
>>322060694
This game just keeps on delivering. Just opened up that Vault full of borrowers and got wrecked because I have no stock of antidotes.
Fuck should go restock and come back, and machine gun them to death.
>>322066734
20% increase in all isn't really worth it. But the later feat, psymania, might be worth it. Requires psychosis.
But tranquility leads to meditation. Which adds 25 extra psi points.
Choices, choices.
>>322066906
become a crossdressing trap if you want to have a good time
What are the best traders if I want to make my own Sniper rifle with reaper+rapid reload+smart module?
>>322067790
Never leave without antidotes.
And I'm not even talking about burrowers, imagine melee burrowers with paralyzing poison that sneak up on you, poison you, disappear, wait until the stun kicks in, and then come back to rape your defenseless ass.
Yes, those exist.
either i got gud or they really nerffed depot a when they said they did in the last patch. i didn't expect them to make it this easy.
>>322067963
>become a crossdressing trap if you want to have a good time
yes, but what about with regards to the game
link to old thread if anyone's interested
>>322005798
>>322068370
No one is.
>>322068256
I've heard of that update. I'm staying away from it until I can do this casual filter version.
>>322068256
Styg ought to buff the midgame instead.
>>322068132
>reaper
>rapid reloader
Not worth it m8, you won't get more than one shot anyways, use bipod. Better to actually hit than have spare AP whole missing.
Reaper should be use with anatomically aware scope, bipod and smart module.
Later on you will spearhead, which can actually shoot twice with rapid reloader.
But to answer your question, any weapons trader. The one from Core City is probably your best bet at the moment. Mechanic traders have some quality frames from tome to time, too.
>>322068174
Just started the game recently and its my second build. Fucking hell its really System Shock kind of love all over again.
My Assault Rifles are raping everything with full auto, I just need a better armor, concentrated fire and Commando I am ready for business.
Should have took chemistry maybe, I dont know if I will be swimming in money enough to just spam buy grenades and flashbangs.
>>322068654
Fucking phone, try to ignore all the typos.
>>322061121
I got to the Junkyard and started getting rekt. The mutants required me to be a cheap shit. The acid dogs were too much. You need to be able to ruin everything in the first two turns or you get fucked.
>>322068749
You will be swimming in money, but you won't get the best nades without chemistry. I found like one Mk IV in the whole game, and you can craft up to V.
>>322068827
20 in chem, 15 in tailor for molotovs. If fire can't purge it, it ain't meant to be purged.
>>322068654
Thanks bud, spearhead is the one you make yourself right?
>>322069000
this was meant for
>>322068967
>>322069000
It's worth to mention that drinking mushroom brew gives an empty bottle to craft molotovs with.
>>322069104
Yes, you can't buy them, only the frames to craft them with, and those start spawning in shops later in the game.
That said, you can find a Dragunov unique that can shoot twice a turn. It's inferior to quality spearheads, but you can get it earlier. It's in Rail Crossing, in the tunnel leading to Buzzers Shop, in a locker.
>>322061886
I had a similar thought, but I tried again with a straight up gun/melee focused gut until I get the hang of this,and it's working a lot better
Would you take the psionic inhibitor pill, /v/?
I think the new patch has broke something.
I cannot seem to get ANY Psi beetle oddities.
When the game first came out, I got 3/3 easily.
I've killed like 60 psi beetles on this new character and not a single one has dropped.
>>322069832
fuck yea psionics are fun as fuck
>>322069832
No.
I would meditate and figure that shit out the proper way, like a man. I like my immunity system, thanks.
>>322069832
Yes.
>>322069832
>get aids
>but mindpowers
hmm....
>>322069950
>getting the casual update
>>322069950
I found the 3rd one on the Arena.
>>322070084
It fixes a game breaking bug right before the final boss though.
>>322061886
Your character was stuck because you are a moron. You get a fucking free crossbow in that initial quest, and there is plenty of fucking time and rathounds to get the samples. At close range its fucking easy to hit a rathound with 0 crossbow skill.
Although I admit the game only really kicks in at about level 4.
>>322066714
Its not only about gun skill, tons of other factors affect accuracy, weapon condition, darkness and a bunch of others.
Night vision really does help a fucking lot, thats why you need energy to use the googles.
>all those scrubs getting rekt by fucking rathounds
>not only are they easy as fuck, you can actually close the fence door and have a plinking session
How can anyone be so bad?
>>322070220
I think what fucks with most people is how easy it is to die in this game. Until you are level 5, a squad of rathounds can be a serious threat. There really aren't casual, easy encounter until you are 100% cheese.
I'm assuming there's some way to use all these empty casings to make bullets, but how?
What is good against the siphoners? Trying to farm them for anti-acid armor, but they take sledge hits like champs.
>>322066906
Use grenades, especially in the very beginning. Buy a few frag grenades or molotovs with your starting cash and the first couple harder fights will be a breeze.
>>322070562
That is why the game is good it does not fuck around, you have to respect the enemy. Choose your battles.
Hope the game does good enough for a sequel. Between this and Dragon Dogma I have my future full of games. Its a good feeling.
>>322062706
>Has anyone tried a knife+throwing knife build yet?
asassins build are godly one vs one, you get so much crit and crit damage you destroy even high armor enemies, your weakness is large crowd but it's nothing a good flashbang/emp grenade cannot solve
>>322070779
they are for special ammos, such as poison, fire, explosive, etc
>>322071105
Damn. Would have been good to use metal scraps, with casings, to make new bullets. Would probably need to buy or make gunpowder as well.
I get the feeling bullets are going to be one hell of a cash sink.
How much throwing skill do you need to use grenades more or less effectively?
I found Ice Shield.
It's just a buff that has a 50% chance to block X amount of melee mechanical damage up to 5 times before disappearing.
At 90 skill it blocked 20 damage each time.
>>322070779
>empty casings to make bullets, but how?
recipes, they're pretty rare though
>>322070779
They are used to craft special ammo.
Blueprints are rarely sold by wespon traders.
They go as follows:
5mm- extra electrcity damage, requires 20 mechanics and 20 elecronics
9mm- extra acid damage, 20 mechanics and 30 chemistry
7.62- 50% chance to deal 100% weapon damage over 3 turns, only 20 mechanics
8.6- 35% chance to set target on fire, 20 mechanics 60 chemistry
.44- small explosion, 20 mechanics 60 chemistry
12.7- deal bio damage and leaves a toxic gas, 20 mechanics and 35 in biology and chemistry
>>322071505
>I get the feeling bullets are going to be one hell of a cash sink
Nah you will be swimming in money and bullets by midgame, the real cash sink is super steel
Is a pistol build with high critical good?
And what should I put my base points to?
>>322071875
And your Core City house.
And buying all the fucking ammo you can to shoot it all on the shooting range, craft hundreds of special rounds to never use regular ones again.
Quick way to earn money? Buying stuff for your house is expensive as fuck.
>>322072006
>Is a pistol build with high critical good?
>And what should I put my base points to?
Depends what pistol build you want to make. Normal pistol or energy/chem pistols, imo energy pistols are better because they give you more options: electro pistols and plasma pistols with aimed shot and crit damage talents are fucking nuclear bombs.
>>322071836
The 7.62 formula looks good for pure damage.
Can you make a 50-caliber assault rifle of Death incarnate?
>>322072381
I think 12.7 is exclusive for snipers.
>>322060694
I just bought this game.
Any tips?
>>322072291
I want to make a build with a good dodge/evasion and high crit
>>322072269
sell drugs like in real life, morphine at 1k a pop
>>322073076
You can sell like 5 of them at most though.
Electronic parts ans laser pistols are better.
>that feel when you get hacking/lockpicking to 85 and don't need to raise them anymore because there are basically no locks above 100 difficulty anyway
>>322072645
>I want to make a build with a good dodge/evasion and high crit
it's pretty straightforward, don't go too low with agility, you willl need at least 6 strength for steady aim, 10 dex (for gunslinger +dex on lvl up to lower pistol Ap costs) and 10 Per for sharpshooter. Recklessness will give you another +5 crit chance and you can get more on gear. The res of your ability points you can distribute as you like
>>322071582
20 seems to be the optimum, I had 10 and I still threw them sideways, but 20 seems to have done the trick.
>>322073289
>do the same thing (75 & 80, actually)
>find a 120 elec lock in the tchort institute
>there's a key 2 rooms away
Now I'm feeling like I wasted those points. Oh well.
>>322073785
Only 20 really?
Good.
>>322064704
There's a robe item that is also armor which looks pretty cool and has decent stats.
>>322073785
>>322071582
>not running around with full inventory of molotvs and 0 throwing skill
Sure I threw it at my own feet that one time but most of the time it doesn't matther
>roll psi character (metathermics)
>everyone on /v/ says im a babby because psi characters are overpowered
>roll a throwing knives and grenades only joke character
>it's better than my main by a wide margin
Seriously, the grenadier trait is fucking ridiculous. 2 turn cooldown basic grenades are better than any low level spell, and specialty/high end grenades are just as good or better than higher level mentor-only spells. Throwing knives ain't nothing to be fucked with either. Split throw + hypertoxicity means you can stack poisons dealing 150 damage after only one turn.
Should I get this game or Xenonauts?
Its great how sniper characters benefit from having good traps.
Really makes you feel like a sniper setting up his traps and planning your takedowns.
>>322074907
Yeah but if you keep chucking grenades all over the place, you're gonna cause a complete cave-in.
>>322074352
But anon, throwing them at your own feet while wearing one of those smelter suits is the best tactic while you're waiting for exothermic cooldown.
>>322074907
The power of psi characters is largely from utility in various incapacitating debuffs, enrage and force wall, not in plain damage.
Not that it's lacking in plain damage either, thermodynamic destabilization is absolutely beastly.
>>322074907
PSI is easy because they get access to everything but they don't specialize.
I miss being a stealthy sniper you could hit into the 300-500s and just delete the biggest thing in sight....but then raging 5+ guys with 1 spell is also strong.
Is there any way to get disassemble without spending a precious feat point on it?
>>322074907
Most builds are stronger than the Psi ones, with a few exceptions.
Psi works best when combined with other things that it can complement.
If /v/ wants a challenge, then try a Thought Control only character.
You'll find it pretty decent at the start, but it rapidly starts to lose it's potency.
Not even LoC can save you when you start dealing with enemies that are immune to mind control abilities.
>>322074907
You shouldn't take anything /v/ says about this seriously. Most people in these threads don't even account for stat bonuses and skill check difficulty limits when planning their builds.
how to use cheat engine?
>>322080550
you put it in your cheat car then put in and turn your key and put the peddle to the metal
Why is this game so good? How did it capture our attention do well?
>>322080974
because its actually made for people who play video games.
Alright /v/ I need help. I went for a stealth/crossbow build and it seems like I got completely fucked over. I have no problem downing 1 guy from stealth before he can even react.
But even if they don't have line of sight on me, or the guy I shot, the rest of the mobs argo as well. Then I just die.
Am I doing it wrong or should I just reroll because crossbows suck?
>>322081781
you need traps to hold enemies off so you can keep using your range, or at the very least some caltrops
>>322073758
Thanks.
>>322081940
Yea but when I picked crossbow I though I was trading damage for the ability to quietly pick guys off 1 by 1. Right now it just seems like crossbow is inferior to sniper in every way.
So with all this shilling going about I expect to see /v/ shitting all over this in a months time.
What build is better vs a large group of guys?
Psi only
Melee/psi
Assault rifle/heavy armor?
>>322082139
it doesn't really work if the enemies are in a cluster or within sight of each other, it's more for lots of isolated targets so you don't alert them all at once.
So I got 2 extra captured hoppers from that one quest where you gotta use dog cages and shit.
What the fuck can I do with them? Is there anyone who will accept buying them? Or should I just throw that shit away?
>throw caltrops
>barely win with low health
>forgot I threw caltrops
Nice.
What the fuck just happened?One minute I'm laying waste to the Tchortist institute trying to find the cube, simple enough, the next I'm fighting endless waves of Faceless because they want something I don't have that I'm trying to get to give to them, now I'm fighting 1000hp mushrooms with crit/status immunity in some sort of Plants vs Zoners or some shit. No Protectorate, no Free Radicals or whatever their name is, nothing.Did I just skip like half the plot or something?
>>322081202
More like made for the people who used to play video games.
The fuck is the point of this area? There's nothing here.
>>322084475
One would assume there's a secret door that you can't see because you're blind as a bat. You'd use it to sneak around those guys you had to kill.
Raise that perception.
>>322083069Caltrops cant do fatal damage. Unless poisoned.
>>322082842
chuck those fucks
>>322072620
Git gud
>>322084601
I figured that would be the case, but I discarded that reason because...
Why the actual fuck would you want to sneak around those guys? The only reason to go there is to kill them all. There's fuck all else there.
Unless Gerhard Page is there for some quest related reason, but I've yet to see that be the case. He just seems like a named guy that you murder.
>>322082139
beauty of crossbow is that you can use different bolts, incendiary bolts hit multiple targets and set them on fire which is nice for crowd control
need traps and chock points to make em work nicely
>>322082590
>Psi only
>Melee/psi
>Assault rifle/heavy armor?
Throwing. But seriously, AR is good if you have a 2nd burst (feat related), you can wipe out a bunch of knobs at once as long as they're in your firing cone; Thought control has excellent crowd control with Locus; Metathermics has a half-decent firebomb and Exothermic is great vs melee fags. Melee/psi is probably the weakest (although i've not tried melee) because the psi you'll be taking (telekinesis) doesn't have a good crowd pleaser. Telekinetic Proxy can do some crowd damage but not much.
>>322085084
>Gerhard Page
Anyone notice that him and a couple of other named raiders/lunatics were experiments in a lab somewhere in NW upper rail? What's that about?
>>322072620
collect poppys to make morphine, 1000 per shot and you only need 25 bio
trap is very useful to collect traps that are scattered around, specially around junkyard, but you need to be 20 points higher than the trap to collect it undamaged so get the trapper belt
I just found the claw. What a fucking trip
THREE FUCKING THOUSAND CHARONS FOR A SINGLE SUPERSTEEL PLATE
SOMEONE HOLD ME
>>322081781
One of the things you have to learn about Underrail, usually the hard way, is that you probably are not going to be able to just focus on one combat skill and have an effective build.
Like anon above said the best way to solve your problem is to use traps and caltrops in combination with your crossbow sniping, while also take advantage of special bolts. You have to manipulate the environment so that you *can't* be ganged up on all at once and your ability to quickly pick off a single target can be used one by one.
>>322085713
Man you're gonna love decorating your house.it costs like 40k to do it all
>>322086173
Does the security stuff you can buy for the house ever matter or is it just to look cool?
>>322067963
>crossdressing trap
You've mentioned this twice, and now I'd like to know why.
>>322086574
Because you're on /v/
Regenerative vest, yes or no?
can items be destroyed from durability loss?
>>322086173
There's player housing!? Fuck yesss. Now I wont feel like a total autismo for jewing as much money outta every vendor I can.
>>322086457
I reckon it's useless but then I don't really use the house anyway
>>322087312
See above. It's fucking pointless but whatever suits yer fancy.
Doing the Gauntlet, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I got to a level were I can use the keys you collect to skip fights with enemies, but then the floor just sends a shock wave and kills me every time.
Remember that if you're going to used infused leather to get Skinner so you can double-dip your benefits.
>>322087990
The other 2 runners are doing the level with you. First one to get to the end pulls a lever that sends out the shocktrap that kills the other 2. Gotta go fast(er)!
>>322088314
Is it depended on the time it took to do the whole run or on just the speed of that last level, because I can't possible go any faster and I have all the keys.
>Locked gate
>Unlock it
>Locked box inside
>Hack it
>Nothing there
>Nothing else is in the room
Nice.
>>322089348
I think it's meant to have the illusion that it takes the time you took to do the previous levels into account but I don't think it does. You just have to kill/ pickpocket (?!) those fuckers fast and leg it.
Electrokinesis works on robots, right?
I'm having trouble killing robots with fire, ice, and my shitty 5mm submachinegun, so I went back to learn that
>>322090913
Yup. Gives you a nice 1 round stun, too.
>>322091106
all right, awesome. Time to get revenge on those piles of scrap
Does heavy armor and assault rifle work? I want to make a underground space marine. Im guessing str/con/perception for skills.
im stuck at the GMS compound
I have to sneak around all these robots because they instant stunlock me and kill me, its a fucking bitch.
Ive been everywhere I can go I can think, but I can't figure out where to reach the third level at all.
Is it really hidden behind these doors that take like 30 hacking or whatever?
Where the fuck do I go?
>>322091306
AR is kinda supposed to go with heavy armor. You'll need 9 STR for the best heavy armors but you only need 7 for the heaviest AR.
Check the feats in the wiki and their requirements and distribute your points in STR/CON/PER accordingly and remember you get an extra stat point every 4 levels so you don't need to max anything from the start.
>>322091741
Only read the spoiler when you have completely given up.At the bottom right hand side of the map there is a trap door that takes you to the third floor. You can take the vents right to it and completely avoid the robots. Its locked but you can pick it. If you can't pick it, the key is also hidden on the second floor.
>>322091741
Get an omnitool from the first room and use the vents. Also, learn to fight, mane. Get some EMPs and grenades and shit.
>ran out of money
>forgot to buy a copy
fuck.
>>322091934
I know str gives you more melee damage, dex lowers AP costs, does perception give you any combat advantages besides unlocking feats?
Are there more psi abilities past what the sgs instructors teach you? Just finished learning the last of what they offered and was wondering if I should be paying attention for new folks.
>>322092001
Oh so it's one of those hidden trap doors again?
I don't think my character can see those with my stats.
I remember running into the other side of one of them in the caves and I couldn't see it previously.
Why would the objective be behind something like that that's invisible for some characters.
Also i didn't know you could crawl through vents, I thought it just let you look for them. You can pick vents with a lockpick right?
>>322092219
Yes. All the other psi abilities you need to buy or find a consumable that teaches them to you though.
>>322092035
i dont know what an omnitool is, but I think I looted pretty much everything I could that wasn't behind a locked door on the first floor
going to have to recheck.
>>322092228
You don't need stats to see it. Its not hidden, just kind of hard to see. You need a multitool or crowbar to get the vents open. Also save before hopping down.
What's the point of having a skill system that includes lockpicking and hacking, when 90% of the games content is locked behind doors anyways?
That's not even a choice. There is no freedom of choice here. Why is this a thing?
>>322091741
lol, I was stuck at the exact same place 20 minutes ago. I just went back home, learned to throw magic lightning with my mind and fucked up those robots right proper.
>>322092458
I just snuck past everything MGS1 style and stole all the experience point item things, ive almost gained 2 levels because of all the experience points that are in that room.
The only thing though is I cant find the omnitool on the first level at all, I must be retarded.
Ive spent forever just trying to sneak around anyways, and also I am out of ammo and the dude who sells the ammo hasn't refreshed yet.
How long does it usually take for stores to refresh their inventory, im imagining they do otherwise that would be retarded because there would be no ammo to buy.
I have SMG thats out so now I have no weapons except this knife, but the guy who sells ammo already sold all his ammo to me.
>>322092759
>How long does it usually take for stores to refresh their inventory
90 real world minutes.
The guy in the corner of the canteen and the hobo just outside the compound sell omnitools, I think the freaky guy in science sells them as well.
>>322092983
90 minutes? Shiiiit.
I might as well just leave my game on for an hour so I can get more SMG ammo otherwise I am basically fucked cause I dont have fancy mind-magic powers.
>>322092120
It gives you synergy (bumps it to a higher level than you've spent points on, it's the number in parenthesis) with some skills, the one of primary interest being Guns, which, the higher it is, the higher your to hit %. It also helps with detecting hidden passages but that's a non-concern.
Essentially, put it as high as it needs to be for you to get the feats that relate to the ARs, the ones that are worth it anyway, like Commando (which funnily enough doesn't have a per requirement) or Concentrated Fire (8).
I'm not doing the research I need to to say this but I reckon 7 to start would be enough and you can give it an extra point at some point.
>>322093139
What's your build man? Cause it sounds awfully like Guns is the only offensive skill you took and that's a bretty pig mistake.
>>322092440
legitimate
>>322092440
I think the developer went a little crazy with skills. We didn't need 5 different crafting skills, 2 different ways to open locks, or 2 dodge skills.
Should've just merged all the crafting into "science" and "mechanics" for crafting, the two dodges into 1 "dodge" skill, and just one "open locks" skill.
>>322092290
When do they start getting sold? Past the junkyard?
>>322092440
I'm about to do a no hacking/lockpicking run. We will see how it goes.
>>322061886
Is that a fundamental problem with the game though, or just a rough-around-the-edges / lack of polish problem?
>>322094203
Yep. Junkyard is early game, and you have most of the early game spells available at SGS
HELP! I have no idea how to do the final room of the gauntlet. No matter what I do, I can never get there in time, I have all the fucking keys but I always get killed in the hallway leading to the final room.
>>322094276
It's none of those things.
He just did not read all the quest dialog. The NPC says "If you don't have a crossbow you can barrow mine from my locker". The NPC gives you 10 bolts and iv always had a 100% drop rate provided you get a hit. Sure maybe you get really shitty RNG and miss all 10 shots but then you just reload a save and the your fine.
The trick to crossbows is you get a pretty large loss in accuracy if you move and then shoot. That's probably why he was having such a hard time.
>>322092440
AND lockpicks are consumables
when will this nonsense stop being the norm
>>322094113
Why not just turn it into an FPS then? Making tough decisions during character creation/leveling and your playthrough being molded by those decisions is exactly what makes a RPG a RPG. At least a proper one.
By his logic, you could ask "why even make guns a skill since most the game is hidden behind angry mobs?" and the response would be exactly the same. You take guns and mop those mobs OR you don't take guns and sneak around them instead. Locked doors are the same thing. Pick them or go find a key. It's all about designing play areas to be suitable for different approaches and a good design will at the same time reward AND punish the decisions you made creating you character by allowing you to solve the problem in one or maybe some but not in all possible ways.
>>322082347
So is "shilling" just a synonymy for "discussing" now?
And yes, of course, /v/ fucking LOVED Five Nights at Freddy's and Undertale until the general internet found out about it, now they're both "meme games" with "bad communities" (some how the community makes a SINGLE PLAYER game bad)
>>322094693
I have to agree with you on that. Even as a game mechanic, lockpicks are not rare, I have 50 on me right now and I can buy 30 at a time if I need more. There is no point to it.
>>322061886
>I can barely type but I reckon I can into game design
There's a reason it isn't taught in 3rd grade.
>>322094375
Go faster. Stop reloading your quicksave halfway through the level and reload the autosave at the elevator instead and kill those guyse quicker. Enter combat as soon as you open the doors and drop 'nades. If you don't have enough, reload the previous autosave and loot them lockers. The time you take to clear the 2 previous levels doesn't actually matter.
>>322065852
There's about one secret/hidden area/item/door/switch/key/whatever every three maps, more or less.
SourceI have 15 Per and the +3 for the sake of finding hidden shit perk, my hit chances are still double dipped ass dipped in ass though
>>322066782
Yo anon i don't know what i fucking did wrong but where i am in the game
>Trap up an entire hallway, 5+ Bear traps, four HE mines, two blob traps.
>Enemies run in
>Nobody fucking dies from the traps
>Have to Caltrop and Molotov the place up to even get anyone to start dying
>>322095193
Ah fuck it! I have all four keys and reload the auto save made when I went down the elevator and no matter what I do, despite the fact that I don't have to fight anything, I can't do it.
>>322068174
>That satisfying feeling of coating your caltrops in crawler venom and throwing them into a small area enemies have to run through
>6+ Enemies run through them, run out of action points two turns in a row, and then get stunned.
>>322086574
because it's my codeword for a crossbow trapper build, though in reality I'm more of a in the closet crossdessing trap
>found the claw
>found power fist
>found boxing gloves
they really dumping all the unique fists on me in the last half hour
what's the biohazard suit and gas mask good for?
>>322095712
Shit, I dunno what to tell you. I had enough time to kill the three rooms, collect the keys from the corpses and activate the lever at the end. Hope you saved before starting the run.
>>322096583
You will find out soon enough.
>>322074907
>running stealth/psi only character
>Only way to make it really consistent is to dump points into will/int to have that 15 regen / turn
>At first its godlike
>Eventually it takes 4 spells to kill a single enemy
>Aimed shots and snipers one shot you without you even noticing them
>Your extremely limited by both action points AND psi regen
>eventually you just say fuck it and run the grenadier feat and just molotov your way through the rest of the game.
Psi is pretty good against rathounds, and then eventually i just said fuck it, cheated to give myself decent crossbow/trapper/nade skills, and used it as a supplement.
>>322094739
Are you having a giggle? You reduce the number of skills by removing useless skills/merging similar skills and then also reduce the number of skill points the player gets. The same "Tough decisions" remain and have a bigger impact on the game with less of a mushy impact. It's the same reason a granular skill system like Fallout has less immediate impact than a less granular system like in 3rd edition D&D. A 55% to 65% difference in a Fallout skill is less noticeable and impactful than a 3rd edition D&D skill going from 4 to 5 points. And even less difference than in games where skills are all or nothing, like in Infra Arcana where you have a skill or you don't. But naturally that means "Why not just turn it in to an FPS then".
Christ, fucking Underrail fans.
>>322076381
>Access to everything but they don't specialize.
You dump 15 points a level into those skills. Opposed from 5 as a Crossbow/Melee/Guns/Throwing character.
As multipsyi you're going to be hard pressed to have anything but maybe 1 or 2 crafting skills.
>>322084475
Its a secret door from the other zone. I know because i found it15 PER ANON HERE.
>>322095387
need dem night vision goggles
they actually do something
>>322096780
source?
>>322096672
so I should just buy them if I see them?
>>322096780
>Fallout 1
>Hey Let's improve upon the base game with improved player choice, story reacting to choices, and multitudes more ways to complete quests.
>Fallout 2
>"Hey let's streamline this game so it appeals to a wider audience"
>Fallout 3
>Hey Let's improve upon the base game with improved player choice, story reacting to choices, and multitudes more ways to complete quests.
>Fallout New Vegas
>"Hey let's streamline this game so it appeals to a wider audience"
>Fallout 4
No anon you are the death to video games
>>322096715
Are you using your Psi correctly? The only way to get big damage out of psi is combining shit and having the feats that go along with it, like Mental breakdwon+Overload, Proxy+Punch, Cryogenic+Induction crit.
>snipe enemy
>run around the corner and down the hallway
>stealth
>shoot a guy with aimed shot
I wish I knew what feats to get and utilized traps for once, but otherwise I love letting loose with the goosh on guys.
>>322097265
>Cryogenic
*Cryostasis. Fuck these terms are giving me a headache.
>>322097361
>>322097265
Should i be worried you think those combos are good and/or useful in the lols15enemiesatonce midgame?
>>322097263
He's fully right
What's wrong with anything he said?
What you're saying has nothing to do with his post either
Faggot
>>322097263
baaaaaaait
>>322097265
Mental Breakdown + Overload = like 3x the action point cost 5x the psi point cost all for 2x the damage. Can someone explain why that's good?
Which one should I take?
I'm playing a Thought Control only character.
Everything from Yell and onwards looks tasty.
>>322096780
I have no problem with the removal of actually useless skills (but the the bone you picked should've been mercantile) or simplifying "0-100 in 25 level intervals" to 1-4. But you're arguing the removal/merger of useful skills that do impact how the game is played because for some reason you think every lock should be exactly the same because there's some overlap or redundancy is some situations. If anything the change should be how one type of lock refers to doors only and the other for containers with little overlap. Except what you're defending is dumbing down for the sake of it, making the characters less nuanced and the amount of choice inferior.
You set up a system of skills and then design the game around them as best you can. What you don't do is remove skills outright because the world you designed doesn't (in your opinion) take advantage of it to the fullest extent. You make it better. You sound like the Mass Effect 2 design team. "Oh no, the inventory is kinda rubbish" "I know, we'll remove it". And then suddenly you're playing a TPS and not a RPG.
>>322098172
i love thought control, but im not sure if mental subversion is worth it since it technically means i deal more damage every consecutive overload, but im not sure if it really does enough to matter.
>>322097921
You're complaining about how "it takes 4 spells to kill a single enemy" not "lols15enemiesatonce".
Are you drunk perhaps?
>>322098062
something something resolve. I don't get it but the enemy does use it often (and well) against you.
>>322098646
Gotta use it in conjunction with mental breakdown.
>>322099389
Yeah but what exactly is the "small percentage" resolve is reduced by? Mental breakdown already reduces resolve by 50%, will like 1% more make any difference?
>>322098062
>>322099049
Double damage with 50% less damage resistance. It's a shitload of damage, especially with Cerebral Trauma.
>>322099920
wait, is it double damage + 50% resolve removed
Or is it just 50% Resolve removed = Double Damage.
>>322098646
>>322099389
Okay I saved before leveling up to give Mental Subversion a try.
I don't notice a difference.
Here's an example.
I tested it on a Mutant at the Junkyard.
First hit of Overload did 53
Then 46
then 54
Then I used Premeditation and threw a Mental Breakdown on him (So now he's up to 35 stacks of Mental Subversion)
Next hit crit for 114 (Which feels low as fuck considering that was a hit with Mental Breakdown on him while he's at 35 fucking stacks of Subversion AND it was a crit)
Then my last hit did 56
I dunno, that feels unimpressive as fuck to me.
What is the sledgehammer build? Just barely scraped by Depot A, and wondering if everything is even close to where it needs to be to survive the rest of the game.
>>322100313
Everything into Strength.
>Walk into Protectorate building
>That music
These aren't the good guys, are they
That's one hell of an intimidating theme.
>>322100313
A sledgehammer build should have a difficult beginning but once you get to depot A it should be slowly becoming easy modo for you. Heavy armor + sledgehammer + throwing + traps + all crafting skills
>>322100816victors write the history books anon
>>322100192
I took Uncanny Dodge instead of Mental Subversion.
I regret literally nothing. Seems like an excellent ability.
>>322092440
>What's the point of having a skill system that includes lockpicking and hacking, when 90% of the games content is locked behind doors anyways?
To make those skills pay off if you decide to take them?
Would you rather that only 10% is locked behind it so it just feels like a waste of skill points?
>That's not even a choice. There is no freedom of choice here.
Yes it is a choice you faggot, it's in no way mandatory to take them.
Finished the game without both. Found pretty much all odditites, reached level cap, swimming in money, crafted all the best gear I wanted.
Stop being such a fucking completionist and confusing "I can't imagine playing wothout those skills" with "I have to take those skills".
>>322094113
>We didn't need 5 different crafting skills, 2 different ways to open locks, or 2 dodge skills.
Yeah, we didn't need 4 weapon skills either. Just merge it into "weapons" and call it a day, right?
Or even better, merge ALL the skills into "I'm a faggot" skill.
>Should've just merged all the crafting into "science" and "mechanics" for crafting, the two dodges into 1 "dodge" skill, and just one "open locks" skill.
Just fuck off with those smart ideas.
I don't want to be able to craft everything because I took 2 skills, nor do I want to open everything because I took "open everything" skill.
Reducing the number of skills is never good, especially when every single one of them has extremaly useful stuff in it.
>>322061917
wut
>>322100816
Well, that all depends on whether you think the Nazis were good guys.
Will joining the Protectorate conflict with me wanting to be peaceful with the Faceless? Because I'd rather do the latter if I had to choose.
is it worth letting buzzer die? does he sell anything good?
This is really just flavor of the month garbage. No one will be discussing this game in a month or twos time.
>>322101982
No.
> Because I'd rather do the latter if I had to choose.
Good, make sure you don't kill any, help the one fromDrop Zonefind the group near theFoundry
It pays off later in the game.
>>322102030
He's a medicore electronics trader. Siding with Faceless is more worth it.
>>322102137
>threads reaching bump limit one after another
Sure Anon.
>>322102231
Happens with every flavor of the month game.
>Doing an AR build
>Pick up a sniper to see if it compliments my main weapon well
>Its a Godtier combo
Combat is so much easier when you can just switch between the two.
>Doing Jack's quest where I free that one guy from the foundry prison
>Pick up the sniper rifle, convince the deputy that the culprit was innocent
>Quest done
well fuck it, that was too easy, lets do it the fun way:
>reload earlier save
>bust him out of prison by sneaking
but the end result is worse, now he's a fugitive.
This is why Jack refuses to give me any more quests, right?
>>322102349
>using physical weapons
>not going locus of control biolocation spec
enemies literallyspookedto death
>>322102590
Abrams > Jack > the next guy is one long chain of quests that you can fuck up at EVERY STEP and fucking it up means you dont get the next ones.
I fucked over abrams because i lied to him about dogs, muh bad.
>>322060694
>more Undertale threads shitting up this board
>>322102329
Interestingly, it doesn't happen with other games, unless the discussion devolves into shitposting.
>need to get into Depot A
>talk to Black Eels
>send me on job to collect on a debt
>find guy
>he don't got the money
>don't want to kill a guy just to save money, even if it is 1,500 charons
>listen to his plan
>he wants me to murder someone else as a way to pay his debt
>he's willing to kill to cover his 100 charon debt
Dammit. What do I do? I can kill this little shit now that he's revealed himself to be that sort of cunt. But to kill him would make me no better.
Paying his debt for him, he'll never learn his lesson and I doubt I'll get my money back.
This is fucked, jacks.
>>322102619
>not one shoting everything in the game
You will never know the joy of ending the Final Boss battle in one turn.
The only enemy to survive more than one shot.
>>322102839
I Cant even figure out how to take black eels quests, who gives them?
>>322102804
I think it's really the niche indie games that do it.
Ftl, undermeme, maybe cities skylines, etc.
>>322102965
You need to talk to the Black Eels trader first, ask him of he knows where to find drill parts
How big effective electronics skill is it worth to get? Mine is currently at 180, are there even any items that would necessitate a skill level as high or higher than it already is?
>>322103068
>Mine is currently at 180, are there even any items that would necessitate a skill level as high or higher than it already is?
You will find 160+ components in the final area in the game.
>>322060694
>every game is now post apocalyptic
Eat shit redditumblrites
>>322102960
Huh. I kinda expected tchort to be a small blob, like a beholder.
>>322103207
>implying it's post apocalyptic
>>322102960
>Implying sniper rifles are the most powerful spec
>Not going Cryostasis W/ Cryogenic Induction + Implosion spec
>Literally 40 Action points to instantly kill ANY CREATURE IN THE GAME through shields and any damage mitigation.
>>322103249That meaty hole use to be a giant Eye with 6 tentacles
The carpets in the Institute actually show a pretty accurate image of it.
>>322103391
>Literally 40 Action points to instantly kill ANY CREATURE IN THE GAME through shields and any damage mitigation.
I can do that in 24.
Git gud.
>>322103164
so the answer is "no"?
>>322103457
160 quality, I mean.
Making energy shields with 2 160+ modulators and a 160+ core might require even more than you have right now.
>>322096839
Past early game you aren't really hurting for skill points.
>>322103505
Two 160 parts should give a total requirement of 176
>>322103391
>Literally 40 Action points to instantly kill ANY CREATURE IN THE GAME through shields and any damage mitigation.
You are small time, I used to do that early in the game for 35 action points.
Try 24.
Somebody should make a Underrail general with all these threads popping up
Anyways, I've got a story for you.
>want to go to Rail Crossing so I ask for directions
>northwest until you see train tracks
>get robbed by bandits, sneak by gang territory, slaughter some rats
>finally get to the new tracks
>meet some friendly Faceless who promptly tell me to fuck off
>feel like lost so go into some cave
>end up chased by several fucking crawlers which I have to sprint past
>finally stumble to some society
>2 guys at a place called Lost Vault
>do some trading and decide to head south to get back to the metro
>meet some crazy guy who wants me to find some key, find it on the way, loot that chest for a sweet energy weapon
>continue my way south until I find a route into the metro
>see some lights and friendly machineguns
>where could I be? Rail Crossing? the central city?
>fucking SGS
Yeah Im taking a train this time thanks. But man, haven't had an experience like that in ages. Great game.
>>322103725
The biggest I every found was 168.
>>322103451
>I can do that in 24.
>>322103745
>You are small time, I used to do that early in the game for 35 action points. Try 24
You wana really dick wag, premed +tranquility means instant one shot to one enemy w/ cryo+implosion at the beginning of the fight for5 action pointsThen the next one would cost 30, and then you're fucking out of psi points.
>>322103745
725 damage.....
Fuck me it took 5 rounds of cc for me to kill him
Shiity first time psi build....fuck me i should restart.
someone justify the reason why i can only pool 5 points into one skill each level
>>322100816
They ARE better than the majority of faction. They are militaristic, but in a world where everything is solved via violence, and they have genuinely good goals.
They have a thing that will creep you out though, but even commanders are enraged by it.
>>322103908
In other words, 2 sure kills in the first round.
Same as snipers with Snipe+Aimed Shot, but I can do it from far away.
>>322100816
Doing whats necessary to bring order to a shithole isn't evil.
>>322104074
for the brudderh- i mean protectorate
>>322103912
>725 damage.....
Not even my limit m8, that was a pretty unlucky shot. In the spoiler picture I dealt 1242, 442 resisted
And can do it twice if starting a fight out of stealth.
>>322104175
>you have to sneak up on your mirror
>>322103207
>every game made in eastern europe is now post apocalyptic
Yes even The Witcher is technically post-apocalyptic
>>322103978
Because were you allowed to put all 40 of your points every level in metathermics you would incinerate anything and everything that stands in your way.
>>322104074
>They are militaristic, but in a world where everything is solved via violence, and they have genuinely good goals.
The thing is, Underrail is not post-apocalyptic as it might seem.
The end of the world happened so long ago no one really remembers it. Things are so shitty because there was a revolution to overthrow the goverment in the South Underrail not so long ago.
Is it true that some psi skills can only be found with high lockpicking AND hacking?
>>322104395
>Underrail is not post-apocalyptic as it might seem.
It's not post-apocalyptic but it's full of anarchy. Thugs and gangs everywhere, cannibals, psi freaks, even goddamn free drones who are just a violent gang. Protectorate can be too militaristic, they have a goddamn Dreadnoughts and chemical assault unit for fuck's sake, but they have actual diplomats and genuinely good people in their ranks who want to actually help people.
>>322104616
>even goddamn free drones who are just a violent gang
This one is actually more complicated than it seems.
They used to be a normal force that was just pushing in the opposite direction, but recently a Protectorate spy became one of their leaders who started to recruit dumbfucks and psychopaths to discredit the whole group.
So, thank the Protectorate for that. They might have some good people, but superiors care about winning, not helping people.
>>322104803
>They might have some good people, but superiors care about winning, not helping people.
Every succesfull group ever in the history of humankind sadly.
>>322104380
that doesnt sound like fun to you?
>>322104803
>Protectorate spy became one of their leaders
From what i remember he was an agent who just delivered info to protectorate because they had his daughter as a hostage or something, not tried to sabotage group from within as they were successfully doing it by themselves for quite some time.
>>322105019
Of course it does. But it's hard to balance a game like that, and it's no fun if you are responsible for your own challenge.
>>322100192
THIS GODDAMN GAME IS BROKEN.
WITHOUT MENTAL SUBVERSION, A REGULAR NON CRIT ON A MUTANT WHO WAS EFFECTED BY MENTAL BREAKDOWN DID 112
HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE? THE ONE FROM BEFORE DID 114, WAS A CRIT, AND THE FUCKER HAD 35 STACKS OF MENTAL SUBVERSION (WHICH IS LIKE -35% RESOLVE OR SOME SHIT)
THIS GAME IS FUCKING COCKS.
>>322105695
resolve is based on your will stat, so i guess if they dont have lots of will they dont resist damage much
>finally arrive in foundry
>oh boy, can't wait to buy some high quality metals
>everything still below 80 quality shit
FUCK
>>322106035
you need to advance in the main story a bit and suddenly almost all traders have higher tier gear
>area filled with crawlers where you can't kill one without aggroing 6 more
Why is this allowed?
Should I help Abrams spy the embassy?
>>322106368
You can. I went with it until his last quest and turned on him for shits and giggles. Either way the protectorate doesn't become hostile.
>>322106484
thanks. Other question, where I can find the blueprints for special Micro-shrapnel and incendiary bullets?
Also it's ass you can craft special ammo but not normal ones
Sup, wanted to do a pistol guy who can throw grenades and wears thick armor but have no knowledge of the game except for the first three quests. Has any tinkered with this kind of build something along the lines of 7 str, 7 dex, 7 perc, 10 vit. Will it cary me far or will i just succumb
>>322105695
Mental subversion is supposed to double the damage of neural overload, double the duration of frighten/enrage, and spawn 2 dopplegangers with billocation.
Sounds like a bug.
>>322106035
They can't mine, out of good metal to sell.
Help them reopen the mines first.
I have literally just found this in Depot A.
I'm playing a Thought Control only character too.
I've played through this point like 8 times so far and I've never come across one of these things.
I am so fucking happy right now. This ability is absolutely amazing. It destroys other Psi users so fucking hard.
Also, the reason I made this character again despite my other Thought Control only character making it past Depot A, is because I didn't have the option to go to Silent Isle for some strange reason. The captain guy had no dialogue option for it. Anyway though, after one of my other, non Psi characters made his way to silent isle, I suspected that the pillar might require a thought control user to activate it, judging by its dialogue. Lo and behold, I was fucking right, so now my new Psi character can summon fucking dopplegangers.
I can't believe that at this point, my last Thought Control user only had access to fucking the initial 3 spells.
This is glorious.
>>322106484
>I went with it until his last quest and turned on him for shits and giggles.
You missed out on some sweet lore.
>>322107230
>I'm playing a Thought Control only character too
What about the bots?
>>322106642
> Other question, where I can find the blueprints for special Micro-shrapnel and incendiary bullets?
Rarely sold by weapon traders, it's random.
>Also it's ass you can craft special ammo but not normal ones
Yeah, hopefully we will get modding tools to change that.
>>322106840
shamebump, noone tried pistols or just shits on them?
>>322107336
I just avoid them with stealth.
I want to create a sniper character but what should I take other than snipan'? traps? psi?
Is there any way of dealing with Evelyn without killing her?
>>322107525
Try riot armor with shields.
They give a % chance to block a melee attack, but you acn olny use 1 handed weapons with them.
Besides, playing riot police is fun.
>>322065151
Eh, the game got better for me after Depot A.
>Chemistry got high enough to use magnesium and hexogen
>clean Buzzer's shop with EMP grenades, gas grenades and mollies
>Become Crazy Ivan
>>322107663
Can you give me maybe a clear line, i dont even knew shield existed in the first place but going in completely blind wrecks shit because of some lesser onbvious mechanics. What requirements are needed to be met to for example use the shield or the heavier pistols?
>>322106953
>Mental subversion is supposed to double the damage of neural overload, double the duration of frighten/enrage, and spawn 2 dopplegangers with billocation.
Wait what? I thought Mental Subversion just reduces resolve.
this thread just died in like 1 minute, what the fuck tier right here
>>322107876
Eh, half the fun is figuring it out yourself, but I guess I can give you a few pointers.
>What requirements are needed to be met to for example use the shield or the heavier pistols?
Shields have a STR requirement from 4 to 6, depending on the plates used to make it. Only Riot Gear can have them.
You can find riot armors with shields in shops, but it's probably better to take tailoring and mechanics to craft them yourself.
Pistols have no STR requirement whatsoever, but there is a feat that increases your crit chance the more AP it takes to fire your pistol, requires 6 STR.
Get your DEX high, every point above 5 reduces the cost to fire a pistol by 1 and there really isn't many ways to increase your AP count.
PER is also important to hit anything.
Take Aimed Shot, Expertise, Execute and Kneecap Shot feats, rapid fire and Point Shot are also very good at short ranges.
Find a way to stun/incapitate your enemies to use Execute on them, flashabangs will work well if you want to throw nades.
If you want to rely on crits, use a hammerer pistol and puh your crit chance/damage by all means possible.
If not, take a Neoluger since it has the most reliable damage spread and bonus precision.
Yuo can also try energy/chemical pistols.
>>322108417
Oh, right. All the mental subversion does is reduce resolve.
Resolve doesn't really change damage all that much, it's more about resisting psi stuns/incapacitation.
>join the protectorate
>immediately promoted to corporal
>all the junior soldiers are deferential to me and now call me "m'am"
>mfw
>>322108707
Wait until CAU starts pushing you around.
>>322108571
These threads are slow.
>>322108686
>Yuo can also try energy/chemical pistols.
But for those he needs to invest in electronics and chemical when he's already doing mechanics and tailoring for the armour.
>>322108914
>But for those he needs to invest in electronics and chemical when he's already doing mechanics and tailoring for the armour.
That's why I'm saying he can, but I wouldn't recommend it.
>>322108763
Do you at least rank up with the Protectorate as you do their missions?
>>322108686
Is there a feat that allows you to summon two dopplegangers though? That would be a real game changer.
>>322109031
>Is there a feat that allows you to summon two dopplegangers though?
Only an ability.
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mental_Breakdown
Or Locus of Control feat that makes your next though control ability AoE.
>>322109021
No.
They are your superiors and you are their bitch.
>>322109279
Wait a minute, so I'm stuck at the rank of corporal forever? This is some bullshit.
>>322108571
>this thread just died in like 1 minute, what the fuck tier right here
the game isn't popular enough to go through multiple threads fast, I don't think there's many people in here
>>322104369
>>322103251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underrail
>Underrail is a post-apocalyptic turn based isometric role-playing video game developed by the independent developer Stygian Software
When this this fucking place get infested by slavshits?
>every game is post apocalyptic because stalker sold for money
This game is a slav, unpolished version of Fallout 2 but it's quite fun actually.
>>322109371
You are a filthy southerner.
Conider yourself lucky to get that high so fast.
How do you get bilocation? The wiki says you just need 7 will and you use the crystal but I have 7 will but it doesn't work, I just get attacked by doppelgangers. Does my thought control need to be high? I think I only have 30 or so in that.
>>322103251
>>322104369
>The game is set far in future where Earth's surface has been uninhabitable for a long time and the remaining humans live in the eponymous Underrail metro network
>There are retards in this sekai who don't know what post apoc means.
>Literally ripping off metro shamelessly
>IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT'S SLAVS
>>322109572
Yes, increase thought control.
Is it ever actually explained in game why we're all running around underground? Has there been any mention of anyone attempting to head up to the surface?
>>322109608
>you can't make a game about post-apo metro because there is one already
I will give you 2/10 for effort and because it's New Year soon, now fuck off.
>>322109871
>there is one already!
There's actually more than one.
Fallout 3 was also largely metro tunnels. Fallout 4 is at least partially metro tunnels.
>muh one game in the setting!
>Go to the Mushroom Cove for the first time to capture hoppers
>Do it without any problems, decide to explore the place a bit
>''Oh man this cave is quite comfy.. oh look! some cute blue beetles I wonde-''
>Get bombarded by Neural Overload, Cryokinesis and Pyrokinesis shots, die like a bitch
>mfw
>>322109763
They don't explain shit. They just make shit up and hope nobody questions why things are the way they are.
inb4
>muh atmospheric storytelling
>muh implied narrative
>muh deep lore
>>322109763
Entire tchortism is about getting out of underrail via the evolution of human species up to the point you they survive on a surface.
Where can I find all the ammo blueprints?
I found the 7.62 micro shrapnel one already.
>>322109515
>This game is a slav, unpolished version of Fallout 2 but it's quite fun actually.
Mechanically is far superior and balanced imo, but fallout had better writing and quests. As a dungeon crawler though Underrail it's fucking amazing.
>>322110040
I've never seen beetles use pyrokinesis. Do they have it but not use it because I've always work fire resist armor?
>>322109871
>one
>metro 2033
>Fallout 3
>Fallout 4
>metro last light
>All literally within the last 10 years
>One
>>322109763
There are mentions of the surface and one faction wants to get out, but we don't know what happened and never go there.
>>322109985
>Fallout 3 was also largely metro tunnels. Fallout 4 is at least partially metro tunnels.
Trying a little to hard now, lowering to 1/10.
By your logic, all those games are ripping off original Wasteland anyway, which ripped off Mad Max, but you are probably too young to remember that.
>>322110040
Psi-beetles are a bitch during the early levels, especially if you get them in groups. Single beetles can only use basic neural overload though, it's when they get into groups that they can use more powerful abilities.
>>322110203
Wow they managed to improve the mechanics of a 15 year old game?
Amazing, 10/10 slavs did it again.
>>322110134
Weapon traders sell them rarely.
>>322109985
>muh originality
whatever dude, I'm having fun playing jin-roh:the game and unloading a hell of bullets on my enemies inside my metal suit of badassery.
>>322110289
>Fallout 3 wasn't largely metro stations
Are you 10 years old and mommy didn't let you play that game?
The major gripe was that it was all about literally crawling through subways you little shitcunt.
>>322110203
>fallout had better writing and quests
Honestly not a single quest i can remember in Fallouts even comes close to a rape dungeon quest or gassing rebels.
>>322110134
In shops randomly I think. I bought 5mm shock from the SGS armory and some other one somewhere else, I forget. I haven't been able to make either one though because my crafting isn't high enough. I actually haven't even used anything but normal ammo and I'm level 14.
>>322110134
>Where can I find all the ammo blueprints?
they're really rare, you find them inside containers or from shops, it's all rng though
>>322071019
whats your assassin build, anon?
>>322110214
They use it when there's others beetles around, since it amplifies their shit
>>322110402
>originality doesn't matter
>I'll play whatever the slavs shit out!
>>322110427
>I like the edginess
So that's the appeal of this game.
>>322110410
Fallout 3 has a big metro dungeon, not a metro-based setting.
>>322110321
anon was your mother raped by slavs or something
>>322110516
>big metro dungeon
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Metro
Kek
>>322110598
>Praising slav copycats
>>322110516
>not a metro based setting
>literally most of the areas are metro stations
>>322110410
Subways made up less than 10% of the map space.
The game was garbage for a lot of other reasons. Your autism is flaring, calm down.
>>322110878
Are you retarded? All of the underground dungeons in FO3 are metro stations.
And the overworld is basically a giant shit heap of nothing.
>>322110715
>>322110838
Metro in Fallout 3 is nothing more than a huge dungeon crawler, I don't know who are you trying to convince otherwise.
>>322110516
They've been at this for days, lad. Literally any game with metro tunnels in it counts as a metro-based game now.
>>322060694
this game seriously needs some new wallpapers and some OCs
im tired of seeing this picture at every underrail thread OP
>>322110991
>nothing more than a huge dungeon crawler
There are no other dungeons except metro tunnels.
>>322111031
>any game with metro tunnels
The only reason to have tunnels in a modern/post apocalyptic setting is either to make
1. Vaults
2. Old subway tunnels
Literally why would any other sane person dig a tunnel into the ground in large cities?
>>322110480
>whats your assassin build, anon?
dagger/stealth focused on getting all the crit talents like recklessness, weaponsmith, crit power, ripper, cheap shots, etc. Cheap shots is fucking god mode 1vs1 if the rng favors you because of how many time you hits with dagger+high dex+tabi. You can literally skip your turn once you get the incapacitation and stunlock a single enemy. Once you get cu-throats you can do that with two enemies as long as one is a humonaoid. Only weakness is heavy armor stuff (you rely on critcs and before getting to midgame you don't crit often enough) and huge crowds (but you have grenades for that). You also have really high stealth and can obviously skip any trash encounter you want more or less. It's not as strong as some other builds but it's pretty fun and you have to actually think when you fight instead of mowing everything down with AR or psi powers.
>>322111378
Wow, why am I not surprised it looks exactly like a ripoff of fallout (which was in turn a ripoff of wasteland and mad max) and metro?
>>322110715
I din't praise anyone i asked youy why you have such a huge hateboner for slavs because it's pretty obvious that's the reason you're shitposting
Cleared pre-nerf Depot A, I'm finally worthy of playing this game fuck yeah.
GMS was harder because of how little resources you have at that point, but going all out at Depot A was much more fun.
>>322111604
>hate boner
kek, faggy fallout ripoff that's worse than borderlands is not worthy of hate.The word you're looking for is disdainboner
>>322063389
Is this the fucking street from Streets of Fire?
>>322111539
Because your dad touches you at night.
I wish these boxing gloves I found were actually useful. As of now they are just sitting in a barrel where I store all my unique weapons.
What's the deal with crawlers? Are they invisible or invincible when they're on the ceiling? I'm walking through some cave, then they drop down and sting me, then go on the ceiling right after without giving me a chance to do anything. Then I just walk away. I've killed a couple because I got lucky and they didn't run away when they first attacked, but most of the time I have no way of killing them.
>>322112142
Oh so this is now a concept art comparison thread
>>322107230
>I suspected that the pillar might require a thought control user to activate it
>Lo and behold, I was fucking right
No, you're not. It requires 7 Will.
>>322110203
Don't forget the level design. It's above and beyond the levels in Fallout, and combined with all the tools, traps and skills it allows for some incredibly entertaining scenarios.
>>322111625
How badly did they nerf Depot A?
>>322112291
They hide somewhere on the map. You can bump into them or bomb most likely places.
>>322112291
They hide on the map in stealth. If you suspect they're nearby, you should stealth up. Even with a fairly average detection, you should usually spot them before they spot you.
>>322112423
It needs something other than just 7 will. I had 7 will and it didn't work for me. I'll try later with higher thought control.
>>322112356
No, it's an underrail thread.
>>322112985
Fucking hell, that wiki is a joke.
>>322112142
>Obligatory STRONG WYMEN WHO NEEDS NO MAN tumblr SJW fanart
>>322113414
She doesn't look like a brute force char though. Judging by that crossbow, she's all about stealth.
>>322113374
The game is still new, people are figuring shit out. Wikis take time to be totally reliable.
>>322113618
the wiki isnt updated by players senpai
>>322112708
From what I heard it only affects the mutants, their health and damage got reduced.
>>322113618
Yeah, but I took 7 will so early only to be able to take bilocation, I wanted to pump points into thought control after I got stealth to a decent level. Now I will have to blitz thought control before I get to silent isle.
>>322112423
You do need Thought Control though.
It gives you a fucking Thought Control ability for interacting with it.
Come on anon...
>>322113374
It's mostly fine. The game recently came out and you can't figure stuff like that out accurately on your own. Some guy probably had the thought control requirement but not the will requirement and saw that increasing will to 7 got him the ability. Also, I just noticed the text for the entry on regenerative mixture is the text for morphine copied and pasted. I would change it myself but you need an account.
>>322113978
You can visit it again whenever you want. To poor to afford the 10 coins?
>>322114060
>wikis are usually autistically correct
>underrail wiki says the pillar requires 7 will
>no, wiki must be wrong
Come on man, how could I know.
So, if you worked for Coretech, you apparently wind up with the whole institute of Tchort hostile against you, and I apparently lost a lot of potential content because of it.
Is this how I would have accessed this Leo guy who apparently teach you to resist the Creeping Dread?
>>322114284
>You can visit it again whenever you want.
Coolio. I thought it specifically was just a quest area.
>>322113414
>a female with a crossbow
>STRONG WYMEN WHO NEEDS NO MAN tumblr SJW
Stop posting any time.
>>322112423
>>322114060
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bilocation
>Trainers
>Mysterious Pillars in Silent Isle (requires 7 will)
I hate everything.
>>322112142
>>322111378
>>322060694
why are all three pictures pretty much the exact same
>>322115090
the wiki is outdated in many things, especially quests
>>322115208
Because slavs are creatively bankrupt.
Ran into this between Core City and Rail Crossing. How do I get in here, guys?
>>322115208
Because it's just a fanart.
>>322115323
you get there much later in main storyline
>>322115323
You don't.
You get out of there.
>>322114447
>So, if you worked for Coretech, you apparently wind up with the whole institute of Tchort hostile against you
Shit, is that true? I went with Coretech in Core City because they seemed like pretty cool guys, but I also wanted to fuck around with the Tchort
Any idea how much thought control you need to get those bilocation pillars working?
Like, I'm not asking for the actual amount because we obviously don't know it, I'm asking for the amount you had when it worked.
When the hell do you git gud at traps? I can't even disarm simple bear traps at 52, and I'm critically failing to disarm every mine I come across
>>322115319
Considering the whole game is made by one guy, it's plenty of creativity.
>>322114447
You don't, unless you are a fucking moron and admit it.
>>322115548
It's not, he just fucked up.
>>322094623
>"If you don't have a crossbow you can barrow mine from my locker"
fuck me I didn't see that and only completed the quest when I was in the SGM building
I feel like a retard now
Okay, cool, just lie to the interviewer.
Now where the fuck is Leo?
>>322116752
I also would like to know this.
>tfw wandering aimlessly around in the caves north of Rail Crossing
I've gone like 15 maps over and I have no idea where the fuck I am. The ride never ends.
That's odd.
For some reason, all the Junkyard Black Eels (who I helped out) became hostile to me.
Did anyone else get this bug?
>>322115585
I have 7 will, 20 thought control, and I just got a level up. I'll try to find an exact value for it. I'm assuming that 7 will is one of the requirements and I'm hoping it's not any higher than 60 for thought control.
>>322117216
Did you accidentally hit one with a grenade or burst fire? They'll all aggro on you for reasons like that. Even if you tossed a molotov and one of them wanders into the fire like a tard.
>>322117216
Careful with your AoEs - I think its possible for some psi and the yell to cause hostility. >>322117138
Remember to hover your mouse over the edges of the map - If you're in the section I'm thinking of, theres only one exit from the loop, in the SE corner, and the exit doesnt show the little orange blocks.
>>322117421
Great, thanks a lot bro.
Does this game have worthwhile waifus?
>>322113618
>Wikis take time to be totally reliable.
Yeah. And it takes even more time if the only contributor is the dev of the game, and he keeps some of the information vague or completely missing on purpose. Not to mention that the information that is there is all based on the development version, and there's even a disclaimer at the first page saying that the info isn't 100% reliable. If I were you, I'd wait until he opens up the wiki to public editing (which, according to him, is coming soon) and the people can actually update the whole thing properly and make it relevant.
>>322117540
I think I found my bearings now. I found some lunatics, climbed up some rocks, found an abandoned sealed up building filled with soil spiders and noped the fuck back into some familiar-looking corridors to the south.
>>322117760
evelyn is qt and innocent
>>322117504
>>322117540
This is long after the gang war and I'm always careful with my AoEs and traps.
I simply waltzed in through the front gate and out of the blue the Black Eels appeared to be hostile to me.
>>322117760Your own PC.Almost everybody in this game deserves to die in agony.
kek
>>322117421
>>322117634
>>322115090
35 thought control for bilocation
Where can I find the ghostface and the phantom jelly?
>>322115323
Hey, I just found that same area too.
>walking next to a mindshroom colors the character portrait blue
TECHNOLOGY
>>322118067
>>322117540
>>322117504
>>322117216
OH SHIT I FIGURED IT OUT
ApprehendingModreand making him hostile (through dialog) turns the entirity of SGS AND the Black Eels hostile - possibly more factions!
How bad could you fuck this up as a developer?
>>322119938
When do you have to apprehend Mordre? The only interaction I've had with him was giving him hopper meat.
Working for the JKK and Ola just told mevivian is dead, Did she get killed off behind the scenes or what? Was supposed to go to the bar with her later ;_;
>exploring the Foundry, looking for the prison
>find a trapdoor in the homeless area, guess this must be the secret back way in
>go through it
>mfw
i'm gonna be honest, I don't like the look of this
>>322120154
When Jack Quicksilver is in Core City, he will give you three quests, one involving a murder investigation in SGS.
>1hko sniper rifle fags will never kill Carnifex in the most humiliating way possible
>>322120484
Where is your face dude
I FUCKING LOVE SHIELDS
How do I hack a door if it is in sight of NPC/Turrents?
Are there any smoke grenades?
Is this game a dungeon crawler with nice aesthetics and atmosphere, or does it actually have a story?
How about roleplaying? Are there morality options and/or political games involved?
>-6% sale
what the fuck
>>322118601
Thank you! <3
>Fucking around near GMS
>Find some mines, traps skill too low to disarm
>Fug it, throw a frag at them
>They actually blow up
TECHNOLOGY.
Wonder if that might help with shithead's house in Junkyard, or if it'd just piss people off.
>>322110040
Also, can Cryonesis ever miss? I always, always get hit, and I have some 20 points in evasion.
>trying to save a group of hostages
>use lightining bolt psi to stun a dude
>lightning bounces at all the hostages and they turn hostile to me
fuck
>>322122242
Psi abilities always hit except for pyrokinesis which is aoe.
>>322121835
Yes to all of these to different degree.
It is very much a dungeon crawler in that you are mostly going to explore caves and tunnels fighting or sneaking by shit that want to kill you.
It does have a story. Hardly a literary masterpiece, but it has some nice twists and is actually somewhat more complex than it might first seem. You are not going to read a lot though.
There is some roleplaying, but not that much. Think about Deus Ex level.
There are morality options and political games, but as said before this is not going to win a purlitzer nor does it really want to.
>>322122156
That's how you actually do it efficiently, throw a grenade at your own frag mines
>Junkyard Mutants evade traps without +100% to camo
>>322122527
Okay, thank you very much. I might give it a chance.
>>322122527
Don't sugar coat it anon, tell it like it is. It's like playing Fallout 1, 2, Deus Ex, Dark Souls, and Jagged Alliance 2 all at once.
>finish the murders quest in the Foundry
>get 4 new quests thrown at me at once
nice
>>322123013
Jagged Alliance 2
nah absolutely nothing can replace or even get close to jagged alliance 2
that game was a legend
>>322122853
Oh yeah, one more thing which I think might be relevant to you. There are a number of factions in the game with their own questlines that are mutually exclusive, so the game has pretty decent replayability,
i want to buy and play this game but reading these posts makes it sound so confusing
can someone tell me a good beginner route to do or something
Can you fuck up a build in this game?
I've just started put most of my points into guns, stealth, intimidation, persuasion and thought among other things.
I'm, not far in, but should I reroll any?
I picked about 11 skills and have well rounded stats for the kind of character I wana be.
Regenerative armor is a godsend on hard difficulty.
Not for during battle, but rather post-battle. Auto-heals one back to 600hp in no time. No need to fuck around with hypos and bandages anymore.
>>322124042
>Can you fuck up a build in this game?
Heh.
Heheh. Heheheheheheheh.
>>322123938
>i want to buy and play this game but reading these posts makes it sound so confusing
It's a confusing game at the start, but you get the hang of it soon enough.
I don't think wandering around in the Underrail ever stops being confusing though.
>>322123938
It's not that hard. Try to follow that picture guide for character creation, but Even with a shitty build much of the game will be fine, just bring along molotovs. I roleplay as a jew so I had to dump a bunch of points into mercantile and pick the doctor perk even though the guide says not to.
>>322124042
send my regards to the nerfed mutants in depot A
>>322120946
>the most humiliating way possible
>implying killing him even before he gets to do anything isn't way more humiliating
All he wanted a good fight, and you gave it to him.
In my case, there was no fight.
>>322124042
>Can you fuck up a build in this game?
Yup.
>I'm, not far in, but should I reroll any?
Guns and stealth are very handy and go great together. Persuasion is pretty useless (except for the rare speech check) and intimidation isn't really useful except for the Yell feat.
It's not worth rerolling based on that alone. Whatever you do, do not put points into mercantile though. It is 100% useless in this game.
Where can I find the enrage psi ability?
Ezra you nigger, why won't you accept my goddamn charons. I wanna learn how to mindfuck and I'm not in the mood to waiting for my next payment or selling crap.
One day I'm going to murder you for this, Tanner.
Where the hell can I find a Flux Controller?
>>322125031
You can't sell charons for credits? Even then, how do you not have several stacks of credits? The game prefers to use charons over credits so unless you manually use credits you end up with more leftover credits.
>>322125179
They give you one.
>>322125476
Who gives it to me?
>>322125582
The engineering guy or maybe Tanner. Are you just skipping all the dialog without reading it?
>>322125582
The engineering guy you're sent to talk to in the first place.
Did you even tried reading the dialog options?
>>322125751
>>322125762
I've talked to him many times and he doesn't even give me one.
>>322125353
Not sure, maybe. I know an Eel exchanges credits for charons, maybe he also does the reverse.
Before I left for the Junkyard I used up all of my credits for equipment, and before I returned I sold all of my valuable gear for charons. I don't know if Tanner pays for the Depot A quest, but I'd like to finish up my exploration of the nearby areas before the map opens up.
>>322125883
Have you checked your inventory?
>>322126006
You can straight up sell credits and charons back and forth if they have them - Their both simply items that they accept for their value worth. So buy whatever with charons, then trade your credits in. Far more efficient than buying them from the money changer.
>>322126030
yes, no flux controller there
>>322126006
You can exchange charons for credits in the barter window of anyone who has credits in their shop inventory. The eel guy probably doesn't have credit but any shop in SGS will.
>>322123938
you don't really go wrong if you
>keep to two fighting specs
>decide if you want to bother with psi
>keep to what you chose.
You will get to have a viable build one way or another, especially if you go stealth.
I personally recommend chemistry, electronics and chemistry for self-made molotovs and grenades. Electronic are good to make shit to sell.
>>322126359
check again
>>322126246
>>322126473
Shit, I'm retarded. Thanks guys.
>>322126606
Make one of them mechanics.
>>322126632
Just remember to do it manually - Auto fucks the currency stacks up badly, and seems to always prioritize charons
