>“What I want to do, I think our first job right now is to make sure that the customers, those 10 million customers who have a Wii U at home have software to play. And we need to make sure that they are satisfied with their purchase and continue to enjoy playing on this platform. So we can’t just abandon them and say ‘Hey, it’s time to move on to the next thing.’ Of course we are working on NX and looking at the experiences we can bring to that platform. But first our job at this point is to support the consumers who have purchase Wii U and make sure that they have software experiences available to them.”
How NX is something completely different from Wii & Wii U:
>“As far as NX goes, I’ve said it’s different and obviously a new experience,” he tells me. [...] “That being said, I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.”
http://time.com/4131306/nintendo-kimishima-interview/?xid=homepage
The NX will save Nintendo.
>>318759941
>implying they need saving
>>318759767
The guy looks happy as fuck in that picture
Whats with /v/ saying he's a yakuza-esque boss
>>318759767
>I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U
God fucking dammit. WHAT IS IT.
On one hand I really appreciate the sentiment.
On the other, I don't want them to bumblefuck the NX by not getting behind it 100%.
It's going to be more underpowered proprietary gimmicky shit that shits on third parties again, isn't it?
Why can't they learn? It's been nearly 20 years.
>>318760165
>muh third party ports!
No one cares
>>318760097
It's not being named Wii at least. Hallelujah.
>>318759767
I would like to know more.
>>318760004
/v/ can't emphasise with someone unless they attach a "meme" to them.
>>318760165
>Negative Prediction
>WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB NINTENDO
>>318759767
Every time I read an interview of this man he speaks a lot without ever saying anything. You can kinda tell he was a PR guy.
Your understanding is required
>>318760271
>emphasise
Not only did you use a hilariously incorrect word, but you spelled it wrong.
>inb4 this is some ebic joke I don't know about
>>318759767
>That being said, I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U.
Hell yes, maybe now we can finally be free of Wiimotes and dumb gimmicks
>>318760353
Well what exactly do want him to say about the thing? Can't give out too much before announcing it.
>>318759767
I like how on Neogaf people is purpousely ignoring the "we will keep making Wii U games" part. "B-but muh lies, muh agenda".
Whoever still thinks the NX will launch next year just officialy got BTFO.
>>318759767
I remember when the DS was going to be the "third pillar" which was going to sit alongside the gameboy, rather than kill it off.
I think we all know what happened with that.
>Kids that were born when the Nintendo DS was launched are now 11 years old
>Soon there will be teenagers that have never heard of/or been able to play any iteration of GameBoy.
>>318760504
or their consumer base is children and its going to be an amiibo machine for skylanders games
>>318760504
>Only Wii and Wii U have gimmicks!
>>318760423
assuming he meant "empathise" then he did use it correctly because, i assume, the anon isn't a Yakuza boss or a Japanese businessman
>>318759767
they said this for the GBA when the DS came out, what a fucking lie that was
>>318760518
>Whoever still thinks the NX will launch next year just officialy got BTFO.
You know it's entirely possible they can make both Wii U and NX software. Or it can be the same, only enhanced on NX.
>>318759767
Watch, it's gonna be some gay VR headset. Look, is it too much to ask to just make a goddamn "normal" console without some gay gimmicks?
>>318760607
It wasn't a lie. They actually kept making GBA games after the DS launch.
>>318760004
If I were a Yakuza boss I'd be pretty happy
>>318760607
Yeah because the DS isn't different from the GBA at all.
>>318760219
Nintendo should, if they don't want to release another flop. I'm tired of getting maybe 2 decent releases per year.
If they aren't going to cooperate with third parties, they should at least put enough resources into their own studios so that games aren't on 5-year development cycles.
But I think they'd much rather spend the money on handheld and mobile games which are much cheaper and sell much better.
>>318760598
>dumb gimmicks
You can't read!
>making it completely different
>not backwards compatible with the Wii and Wii U
D E A D O N L A U N C H
Where have I heard that before?
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/01/11/nintendo-confirms-that-wii-will-still-be-supported-once-wii-u-is-out/
>>318760518
I don't see why anyone would even doubt that they'd stop.
>>318759767
Great news! Shovelware, guys!
Proud Wii U owner reporting in, can't wait!
Yeah right
Like you said with the wii?
And sony and ms said with the ps3/360?
>>318760773
Not a nintendofag, but you're deluding yourself if you think
>Kinect
>Move
>Playstation Touchpad-Twitch
>SteamOS-Big Pic Mode-Trading Cards
are anything other than dumb gimmicks that serve to appeal to a broader consumer base
>>318760862
>Scott Moffitt from Nintendo of America
Why would you listen to him or anyone else that isn't from Nintendo Japan?
>>318760097
new new 3ds
>>318760682
Honestly, if it's VR, it would be instant buy for me.
They always say this shit. They're being deliberately ambiguous because they don't want people to stop buying Wii Us.
As though that isn't happening anyway.
>>318759767
"We will continue releasing big titles every month for the Wii U in 2015"
I guess no one remembers that the Wii U only had about 7 or so games released, where most of them were completely awful and rushed.
It must mean they are just making more shitty budget titles, and then porting them to the NX later. Nintendo is the worst on this PR bullshit, and they treat their Wii U owners like shit by telling lies.
>>318760963
Except I'm not implying that at all and that's why I said that we would be free of them. There are very few games that used Wii Motion control in a substantial way and even fewer for the Gamepad
Don't even know how you brought Sony and all that into this
>>318760004
memes
from the beginning people have actually described him as "soft and friendly" but yakuza is more funny to /v/
>>318761394
There are a lot of great uses of the GamePad. Stop parroting shitposts you read on /v/
>>318760682
Nintendo actually doesn't like VR because they think it alienates players from each other
>>318761512
Such as? The only acceptable use is the ability to play without a TV. Everything else is a gimmick.
>>318759767
>It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.
This man is literally saying they're throwing away what Iwata built, the absolute madman
>>318761512
Yeah but most of the games don't even use them. That, or they are completely fucking useless.
>>318759941
Just like the Wii and Wii U saved nintendo.
>>318759994
>this is the power of nintengaf
>>318761630
You're implying Iwata had nothing to do with NX
>>318761512
Off TV Play is neat but that's all the thing has going for it
>>318760165
>Console is one of the more powerful out there
>"t-the instal base is too small to be viable"
>Console has the biggest install base of the gen
>"i-it's too weak to be viable"
Thirds don't want to release games on nintendo consoles, it's a waste of time trying to appeal to those
>>318761815
Pretty much, its financial suicide not releases kiddy stuff on a Nintendo platform. People want their Mario.
>>318761630
Iwata ran the company into shit. He tried to capitalize on the only console he had that was successful in sales. He failed horribly. 1 trick pony
"My- my Cresta!!"
Probably cross platform releases for like a year, so it's like 5 years of Wii U or so of support so they won't bitch about the NX. I'd rather get a NX tho if they're gonna release new games on it tho.
>>318759767
Yea
PS3 games still gets made despite PS4 existing
>>318760512
Why do the interview then you nugget
>>318761954
:^)
>“As for the codename NX, I don’t believe that there’s any real meaning behind it, and to be perfectly honest, I don’t know where it came from,” says Kimishima, laughing when I ask.
>“Or perhaps Mr. Iwata had meant to tell me and then never got the chance.”;_;
>>318762042
Nintendo have never really done cross platform and they won't start now.
Games are either on the old platform because they want the money, or on the new platform because they're transitioning away from the old platform.
The nx is basically the next 32x. You keep on betraying your fan base and wonder why you're irrelevant
>>318761954
DS and 3DS were also very successful
inb4 3ds is a failure because it didn't do better than DS
In that case, every system ever is a failure
>>318760881
Nintendo keep releasing NES, SNES, GC or Wii games for a couple of years after releasing new hardware. N64 was the only left behind.
>>318761880
Imagine a world where Nintendo never censored Mortal Kombat.
>>318761815
It's because their hardware is always proprietary and they rarely offer any support to third parties who want to make games for their systems. They make them pay for their own disc/cart production and since its Nintendo proprietary the profits go back into Nintendo. It's not Nintendo's reputation as family friendly, they deliberately make it difficult for third parties.
No shit you are just going to go to the companies that actually want your games and are willing to help you release them.
>>318762246
Hey, show your working here buddy. How in any way is a product that is confirmed to be an upcoming piece of dedicated gaming hardware anything like the 32X?
>>318762225
>Never really done
You mean all those Wii U games going to the 3DS like fucking SMASH? Hyrule Warriors? Xenobalde to the 3DS rather than the virtual console? Twilight Princess? Windwaker HD?
>>318762225
>Nintendo have never really done cross platform
twillight princess. Also they tend to be in favor or retro compatibility with the previous system.
>>318762225
Everything that has been said so far leads to believe that NX will in fact be cross platform and that's a very good thing.
>>318762336
I think he's talking about cross generation, Nintendo usually kills the old console as soon as the new one releases
Anyone else remember when "the DS wouldn't replace Game Boy?"
>>318762336
>You mean all those Wii U games going to the 3DS like fucking SMASH? Hyrule Warriors? Xenobalde to the 3DS rather than the virtual console? Twilight Princess? Windwaker HD?
They're in the same generation you donut, what you were implying in your OP was that Nintendo would continue supporting the Wii U with the same releases the next console is getting, as if they still supported the GC with Wii releases, or the DS with 3DS releases. Not to mention the NX Is confirmed to be running on different architecture.
You fucking idiot.
>>318761691
Oh yeah, they lost all that money with the Wii and the Wii U.
On wit, that was Sony with the Ps3
>>318762246
so what's going to be the next Sega CD ?
>>318761620
What about the ability to play games like Windwaker without the need to ever pause the game ever.
>>318762350
>One release implies that there will "probably be cross platform releases for like a year"
My god, shut the fuck up you moron.
>>318762436
It did.
>>318762436
Game Boy Advance was still getting releases in 2005, where development shifted to the DS completely. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>318762527
Before I started walking, I had never walked before. Guess what happened?
>>318760423
>>318760574
Look what you did to this poor guy. Have some emphasis, will you?
>>318762447
The NX is fucking dead on arrival like the Wii U, how is it not the same?
>>318761620
Gyro aiming is a godsend. One step closer to mouse and keyboard.
>>318759767
>retards are going to fall for the "third pillar" meme
>for the second time
>>318762614
>Before I started shitposting, I had never shitposted before. Guess what happened?
Well you showed me, kid.
>>318762630
It's not even out yet you fucking child. Stop being a memer and get a life.
>>318759941
Haha nice post anon who is clearly a fan of Nintendo and not just shitposting
NX is probably going to be gimmick shit. they should stick to Wii U software because wii u owners actually buy games and make profit that way.
>>318762518
>3-second waits to change out items are too long
fuck off, arin
>>318762630
Are you from the future?
>>318761508
He looks like one of those guys that rape little girls in my loli hentais.
>>318760504
>>318762225
There's a lot of things they apparently will never do, but let's be honest, they do whatever the fuck they need to and right now they're trying damage control as much as possible since they have to jump to the NX after the failures of their last console.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if they charged for online with the NX. Remember how DLC wasn't the Nintendo way? Now half the directs are like DLC/Amiiboos...
>>318762705
>NX is probably going to be gimmick shit.
Oh really? Wow, you think Nintendo is going to come up with some gimmick shit? Wow, great deduction sherlock. What other mysteries are you going to solve for us?
>>318762731
>3 second
>Every single time you have to change an item or look at the map
>In a game where you swap items and look at maps
>>318762787
But NX literally runs on different architecture. Are you honestly believing that after a year of for the most part universally panned releases by a publisher, said publisher will then split their development 2 ways for each project?
>>318759767
So Ninty is finally going to do what MS, Sega and Sony did for 20 years and NOT put their userbase at gunpoint to upgrade right away?
I'm really curious if this will be true
so, /v/, what do you think the NX is going to be?
i'm fairly confident it's gonna be the 3DS' successor, but you can stream it to your TV
>>318762787
>content cut from the base game to be sold as DLC
>what Nintendo is doing with DLC for Smash, Splatoon and MK8
You can only pick one.
>>318762731
Yeah man, fuck having multiple monitors. Alt+tab just takes a second haha
Someone post the thing about the DS not replacing the gba.
>>318762910
I reckon it's a box that you can hook up any bluetooth controller/device to for truly social gaming. It will also have a Nintendo licensed handheld variant that runs the same games at the same frame rate, but perhaps at a lower resolution.
Basically, the WiiU. But fully realised.
If third parties were so good, they would be first parties
>>318762932
You are getting both already, useless choice.
>>318759767
>we will continue
That implies they started making Wii U games
>>318762910
Wouldn't be surprised. Nintendo clearly hates the cost of proper HD development as evidenced by the Wii U's pitiful release schedule and how most of its games are cheap trash. Being able to make one game for both handheld and home and without all that nasty stuff like effort and depth would be a godsend to them.
God I'm so disappointed in this company.
So what is NX
>>318763246
A cellphone device, partnered with Apple.
>>318760812
how else would they make you rebuy games you already own?
>Nintendo boss saying the wii u will still be supported when nx is released
I don't know how people are still such gullible fucktards. The Wii didn't see shit worth a damn once Wii U was out, and the Wii U is worse off than the n64 ever was, and the n64 got ditched in 5 seconds flat
Nintendo of japan lies through their teeth constantly. They know their userbase is the gaming equivalent of stockholm syndrome addled iDrones, and they say whatever will shut you up or put you at ease.
I distinctly remember Iwata or Miyamoto say there was no new DS version coming soon, then like 2 weeks later they announced 3ds or some shit. They tell bold faced lies all the time. They want to sell all the Wii Us in their warehouse collecting dust, they'll be pretending they're gonna support Wii U past nx right up until the NX launches, and then all you'll see for Wii U is dollar store tier shovel ware like barbie games and other dog shit
>>318762854
1. You know jack shit about the NX, so stop assuming you do. I'd be glad if you were right and it was a some new powerhouse dream console, but current Nintendo is just one fuck up after another. I fully expect another Wii U level mess.
2. Nobody is gonna be splitting anything except Nintendo. Not anybody elses problem they fucked up so bad and need to mop up their own mess. Last thing you want is the remainder of your fanbase jumping ship.
>>318762527
>pretend things never happen
>actually happen
>I DOENS'T COUNT WHO CARE OK
every
time
>>318763275
what format would the games come in?
>>318763246
Buy NX, it's what's next ™
>>318762932
>creaming your pants over extra tracks and racers
>creaming your pants over Early Access
>>318763385
digital
>>318763246
A flop, since it isn't 3 letter
>>318763390
What games do you like anon?
>>318759767
I wanna see this
It's likely that Wii U will get trash low quality games though, like Mario Tennis Ultra Smash or Animal Crossing and NX will get better releases.
>>318763385
Cartridges you can use on both the handheld and the home console.
>>318762025
I laughed , good one.
so is this thing supposed to be on the same level as sony and ms, or is it just another 'alternative' platform propped up by brand celebrity?
>>318762773
>dumb gimmicks
Is there some kind of virus in the air that fucks up one's reading comprehension today? Jesus Christ
>>318759767
They also said the Gameboy series would continue despite the DS.
>>318759767
Nintendo sounds like it has no vision right now. It's going to be a clusterfuck, how can they expect to support two home consoles, and two handhelds (New 3DS + older models)?
>>318763876
We already know that's a lie but who cares, the Wii U already had his chance, no one expects it to be a success now, I'm more interested in what they'll do with the NX
>>318763698
It's the water around here unfortunately, because I was under the impression Nintendo always did dumb gimmicks for their console controllers since the N64.
>>318763956
Because they're lying.
the nx is a wii-U pad that is compatable with ps4, x1, and pc that allows gamers to play nintendo games without a wii U.
it will be bundled with mario maker and an unannounced kirby game where you draw custom faces on your kirby in multiplayer mode
>>318763956
The N3DS isn't a different console you retard
>>318763956
NX will very likely share software between home console and portable system.
That means no more droughts and a constant stream of games from Nintendo themselves.
>>318764091
No, but there are certain games that are exclusive to that handheld console, granted, only a few, but still.
>>318760512
>iwata apologist now picking up a new mantel
That didn't take long. Keep that cock shining.
>>318763530
WOAH! Who's this cute semen demon?
>>318764091
Fuck's sake, a charming anon appears.
N3DS is for all intents and purposes a new handheld; it supports system-specific games that won't run on older 3DS, like Xenoblade Chronicles.
>>318764091
Nintendrones, everyone.
>>318764154
There's 2 exclusive games, and it's just a 3DS game a little more demanding, they can even downgrade it to run on the regular models just like MH has been doing
>>318761508
I want him in a Nintendo Direct. I want him to be soft and friendly to me.
>>318760253
nx is just a working title, just wait until its revelaed as Wii W or something retarded like that
>>318764373
>new format
ACTIVATE UNDERSTANDING SEQUENCE
>>318764285
Anyway, it will be interesting if Nintendo can support 2 platforms + handheld.
>>318764112
I can't stand handhelds. Nintendo seems to think handhelds are an excuse to make cheap, shallow games with bad graphics and no one will care because the "real" games are on the console. The problem is that they make one worthwhile game for console for every 10 handheld ones.
Now that philosophy is infecting their console too. How long until every release is on the level of Amiibo Festival and Badge Arcade? Nintendo went from having a decent level of integrity to Toy and DLC peddlers so quickly.
>>318759767
I cant handle getting blueballed anymore.
Nintendo projects are too much for me to handle.
They can end up being the greatest or the worst shit. Anything goes. The NX could end up being a fish and it wouldnt surprise me.
>>318763956
When Nintendo says that the NX is something new and different, they probably mean that it's JUST a gaming console. I can't imagine Nintendo is ready to throw their hat into the VR ring, and the casual gimmick crowd is still concerned with the Wii/Wii U. The NX is probably a "hardcore" gaming machine with impressive specs that will have a higher price point. Essentially, their strategy will be to sell "mature" games on the NX and casual/kiddie games on the Wii U systems.
>>318764974
>he NX is probably a "hardcore" gaming machine with impressive specs that will have a higher price point. Essentially, their strategy will be to sell "mature" games on the NX and casual/kiddie games on the Wii U systems.
So, are they gonna split their fans even more?
ok
>>318760963
>side items that aren't required to even start the machine
Inb4 xbone. Consumers hated it and you no longer need kinect but even then it's not intrusive to how you play the games.
>>318764091
Exactly, that's why it didnt even come with a charger
>>318765041
>split
I thought those were their fans, the same ones we see crying here that nintendo betrayed them
>>318759767
just like 3DS wasn't going to kill DS development, right? Or how DS and GBA were supposed to co-exist. They don't even have the resources to give the Wii U more than 5 releases per year as it is
>>318765041
Think of it like this, Nintendo has been the "2nd" console for the last 3 generations. Everybody buys their primary "hardcore" machine, AND THEN buys the "Nintendo". If they create a genuine competitor to the PS4/Xbone, it WILL have 3rd party support for multiplats PLUS Nintendo's own lineup.
Basically, Nintendo wants to be everyone's first AND second console.
>>318764809
The Nintendo Fishy-Four.
>>318765338
This is more like a Nintendo fanboy wet dream.
Reality is very different kiddo.
He says tons of interesting stuff in the interview but you kids only focus on one thing
>>318765338
Not to mention that launching this late(2-3 years after the others) will allow their console to have the most raw power. IF they can price it at around $300-$400 it would be a VERY attractive device to the console crowd.
>>318762614
You defecated diarrhea with such impact your pantyhose got filled with feces & you had to be taken to the hospital to have your cunt scooped out?
>>318759767
Just like Game Boy and the DS
Absolute pottery
>>318764974
>they probably mean that it's JUST a gaming console
LOL that's what the Wii U was, but they half assed it because they thought they could get away with it being Nintendo. Now they're just trying to be like Sony and Microsoft. On their knees, sucking off third parties since those are the only things that keep console manufacturers alive.
>>318765338
The GC was even more powerful than the PS2 and that helped shit, it's not just shove horsepower and the thirds will come in waves
>>318765302
>like 3DS wasn't going to kill DS development
they didn't say that
>DS and GBA were supposed to co-exist
and they did
>>318765485
>meme from 15 years ago are relevant to modern market
ayyy
>rscottykek actually pushed "NX" as meaning something significant
http://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/316896587/
http://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/316568147/
Top lel
Embarrassing. First "Wii One" now this. Fuck off back to your hole. :^)
The nx is a way to play new Nintendo games on ps4/xbone.
Screenshot this.
>>318759767
so NX is a 400$ with the power of a 1k$ gamer pc
BUT the games get downgraded to be wiiu compatible nice ninty
If the NX is released 2 years from now (probably), they would probably support the Wii U with games for one more year or so before they move on to the NX.
So I get to use my Wii U with new games for 3 more years. Hooray.
>>318760161
>On the other, I don't want them to bumblefuck the NX by not getting behind it 100%.
this
>>318765338
This is hilariously delusional. I hope for the best for Nintendo, you however, are a stupid idiot.
>>318762610
Name a good 1st party GBA title that came out after the DS launched
>>318765456
Didn't say it would work, just that that is the most likely strategy given that we know:
1: Not a portable.
2: Not a direct competitor to the Wii/Wii U.
3: Something completely different.
4: Nintendo's corporate culture has never forgotten the failure of the Virtual Boy.
>>318760219
>ports
No one said anything about third party ports.
Third party exclusives should be a focus. Some of my favorite games on Nintendo platforms (especially GameCube) were third party exclusives.
>>318765683
>1: Not a portable.
How do we know it's not a portable?
>>318765625
>a 400$ with the power of a 1k$ gamer pc
so just like the other consoles, nintendo finally decided to be competitive
>>318765525
Each gen is different
PS2 won because DVD player
>>318762075
Nigger it's called hyping up the audience. You have to pretend to give out information to get people more interested. It's clearly working.
>>318765728
Third party exclusivers are becoming very rare today
The NX will be composed of two consoles, right? A Handheld and a table console. I'm thinking about buying a n3DS this christmas, should I wait? The handlheld NX will be able to play n3DS games too right?
>>318765749
competitive with the vita and still cant get more sales bhahahhaha
>>318765496
Not really. The Wii U was a "safe" new gimmick console. Because of the past decade of absolute success with the DS portable, Nintendo falsely believed that the same gimmick would translate well to home gaming. Don't forget that the Wii U's modest specs are divided between two screens, and that the "controller" is a now a monstrous abomination.
OH BOY
http://nintendoeverything.com/new-nintendo-patent-supplemental-computing-devices-for-game-consoles-cloud-gaming/
>>318765751
The DVD player was a factor. Not the entire reason.
>Everyone makes Muh DS third pillar example
>Nobody considers he GC was supported for 5 years straight till the end despite it being the worst selling Nintendo home console and their biggest marketing disaster up to gen 6 (Because apparently the Wii U selling bad means it will be dropped just after 3 years, right)
>Nobody considers that the GBA was supported even after the DS launch
>Nobody considers Kishima never said "third pillar" anywhere
The NX is just another shitty excuse for shitposters to bring doom upon the Wii U and nothing else. People just talk out of their asses coming up with wishful thinking and made up release dates.
Rather than lstening to the tin-foil hat shitposters, I'll believe Yakuza-san and be sure that next year will still be dedicated to the Wii U.
The Wii U was called a new experience too and it was just a shitty screen in the controller. It's probably VR. Actually I'm afraid it's VR because that would be fucking terrible
>>318765751
>Imbeciles always say that PS2 won because of the DVD
lol
>>318765751
moneyhatting is the only guaranteed way of getting thirds
>>318765817
unless you work for nintendo you dont know
and if you work for nintendo and you leak you will bring shame to your family and get fired
>>318759767
>we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different.
this is gonna be gud
>>318765835
It was a HUGE factor, it created momentum and the PS1 was fantastic. As the competition you could have released anything, and it wouldnt matter the PS2 was failure proof.
>>318764421
>WiiWIT'S THE SAME EVEN IF YOU READ IT BACKWARDS
AMAZING
>>318765860
>>Nobody considers that the GBA was supported even after the DS launch
But it wasn't?
>>318765817
Not sure, but it will definetly share the same architeture as the next portable, so you should expect lots of ports
>>318765674
pokemon mistery dungeon
Why cant this piece of shit just come out already and flop?
>>318759767
All said and dont what he says dosent add up.
A short summary of what he said about plans with wii u and NX
>We will continue to support the wii u
>NX will be completely different from wii u(meaning no cross gen releases)
>we want people who own a Wii/Wii u to drop these systems and change to NX
Now spot the one statement that dosent fit in.
>>318765968
It was. Mainly Pokémon of course, but that's what people buy Nintendo's portable console for. And even then, they kept it a little. You know, that dual-slot thing.
>>318765674
mother 3
rhythm heaven
warioware twisted
>>318765860
>Nobody considers that the GBA was supported even after the DS launch
Name a good 1st party GBA title that came out after the DS launched
>>318765952
That & it's game library absolutely trounced the competition.
>>318766087
So only one game (pokemon) means that the entire handheld was supported after the DS was launched
Now you are just grasping m8
>>318766095
>mother 3
development hell/never even released in the US
>rhythm heaven
>warioware twisted
so more Wii U shovelware? Can't wait
>>318765825
>Not really
Nintendo disagrees with you or at least they did until it blew up in their faces.
>>318759767
how fuckin ominous does that sound for nintendos hardcore fanbase?
>its something we have to move away from those platforms IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT WILL APPEAL TO OUR CONSUMER BASE
sounds like a growing casualization of nintendo even more
>>318764421
They'll probably call it the New Wii U 2 or some shit and only show pictures of the power supply.
After how badly they fucked up with the Wii U, I still can't believe they went ahead and released the new handheld as the "New 3DS" in the west. They really don't care that the word "New" isn't as cool here as it is in Japan.
>>318766192
why the fuck are pulling wiiu into the discussion when it was about gba games
>>318765751
No. The only reason it won was the same as everyone else: marketing. Nothing else.
>>318759767
Iwata: We will continue to make GBA software despite NDS.
HA HA HA HA HA
>>318766243
How moving away from their consoles that focused on casuals means getting even more casual?
>>318766293
If wario shovelware is what we have to look forward to for "continued Wii U support" then the system is dead by all practical definitions
Mother 3 just happened to be in development hell and they didn't know wtf they were even doing, which is the only reason a good game slipped out for the GBA
>>318766192
>i don't like those games
>it doesn't count!
There are grownass men in this thread right now between 25 and 30 that will buy and argue about the NX and its version of amiibos when it all releases in 2 or 3 years and keep arguing for at least 5 years after that.
Stop trying to innovate. Just make a good console.
>>318766269
He literally said that they're moving away from the Wii brand, how retard can you be?
>>318766243
It sounds like stock answers of a person representing a vidya company to me, nothing more, nothing less.
>>318766395
>confirmed for not playing warioware before wiiu
i think it's way past your naptime buddy
>>318766165
Games still had dual-slots features, and some GBA games still came out. Look at what games the DS had at first. Tech demos and minigames. In 2005 the DS could've been just a new GBA model. If it failed they would've done a new console. Instead, it became the new console.
>>318762679
Wow, you got your asshole completely blown the fuck out. The second-hand embarrassment is almost palpable.
>>318766495
even the handheld games were literally just a collection of shovelware, that was the whole point
>>318766208
I don't care what they tried to market it as. It was a gimmick console. Anytime you shove a gimmick onto a new console or fuck with the classic control design(adding a thumbstick or extra buttons is one thing) you produce a gimmick console. The NES, Gameboy, SNES, N64, Gameboy Advance, and Gamecube were just gaming machines. The DS and Wii began the age of gimmick that had been abandoned following the early failure of gimmicks like the Virtual Boy in the early 90's. When BOTH the DS and the Wii were rousing successes, Nintendo went full gimmick and hasn't looked back.
>>318765814
Which is tragic. Devs are not enticed to learn the SDK to make a captivating unique experience. They'd rather make cheaply produced profitable shovelware that can be easily ported across platforms. Also, first party console manufacturers are not contracting with third parties. They only do contracts for timed exclusivity. It's telling that the only notable third party exclusives this gen so far are Bloodborne, Sunset Overdrive, and Bayonetta 2
>>318765835
That's mostly what I use my PS2 for. It's still my DVD player.
>>318766660
So the PS4 is a full gimmick console for putting a touchpad and a tracklight on the controller?
>>318766786
There's a big fucking difference between adding a touchpad/imbedding motion controls in a dualshock, and making your gimmick the entire purpose of your new controller, like say getting rid of all but three buttons and the thumbstick, forcing you to use motion controls, OR shoving a huge weighty screen in the middle of your wireless controller to devour battery life and increase the size of the thing to a fucking brick.
>>318766495
He is right though. Nintendo is pretty harsh when it comes to releasing games late into a consoles life.
If its big it gets ported.
Hell they even ported AC to GC and cancelled the western localization of the N64 version, because it was to close to the gc launch. Same with stuff like eternal darkness that was delayed and ported to GC.
>>318766676
>Devs are not enticed to learn the SDK to make a captivating unique experience.
You're so fucking full of it. Consoles should have been standardized since a long time ago, the fact that devs could only make software for one system realistically because porting was too expensive was nothing but a hindrance and ultimately negatively impacted the consumer. Console exclusives are a bad thing which were only ever made by necessity due to a lack of uniformity, not because devs actually wanted to be exclusionary.
Explain what difference it made in the end that the hardware inside the machine was different, when the only difference to the consumer is that there's a couple buttons different on the controller.
>/v/ suddenly cares about 3rd party games
Why do these shit games suddenly become good when Nintendo doesnt have them. You niggers complain about them all day.
What NX needs to be is a streamlined console that can speed up Nintendos internal dev cycle instead of splitting their resources. Basically an actual Nintendo box. That would sell, since people are not gonna buy a Nintendo Xbox, they already own PS4s.
>>318766660
The NES had an awful looking controller that tries to be "new" and "innovative" instead of being just a normal controller as it should. It's the same thing the DS did. If there was any competition in the portable console market it would have become the new standard too.
>b-but le pee ess fiiiveee
They were appealing to you.
>>318766445
Sometimes I feel Nintendo's giving it's fans the middle finger saying "FUCK YOU I'LL DO WHAT I WANT WITH OUR CONSOLE AND GAMES, AND YOU FUCKING BUY WHAT I MAKE, UNDERSTAND?"Thank god. Nintendo should keep doing what it feels is right.
>>318767183
Third party support is mandatory for a financially successful console.
Don't kid yourself, Nintendo aren't going to commit the cash to a proper release schedule on their own.
>>318767228
The NES had a Directional pad(which was just a cut down joystick) and TWO face buttons(not counting the two navigation buttons). It was essentially a more stylized take on the classic Atari joystick.
>>318767314
I like it because that's what I would want to do too. You basically do whatever you like better.
>>318759767
tldr: We'll continue to pump out shovelware-tier games and charge full price for them because they'll buy it.
>>318767041
>When I'm don't like it's a gimmick
>>318767505
just like they bought Devils Third, amiibo festival and Ultra Smash right?
>>318767561
>When I'm presented with logic I don't like I ignore it.
>>318767376
Third party shit is getting more irrelevant each day with pc gaming, exclusives are what sell consoles
By different, they could just mean it's different than the Wii and Wii U
In other words, it's just a standard console, which is very different for NintendoPlease god
>>318761620
Gyro aiming
God, if only more first-person shooters implemented this! I really hope the next regular controller has some gyroscope
>>318767393
The DS is just a GBA with another screen, that has touch support, which is a great addition.
If you flip a Wiimote it becomes a NES-like controller, you have to use it like a remote only in the games that require it.
The WiiU GamePad is a controller with a touch screen. It's basically the same idea as the DS.
The only reason you don't call the NES controller "gimmicky" is becaus its standard got adopted by everyone.
>>318763123
So your mad that they prefer making handheld games? Why?
>>318765956
the Nintendo WiiW Lad
>>318767668
Well that's weird because from where I'm sitting, it looks like the Wii U has the most exclusives yet is doing the poorest.
>>318767806
Wii and WiiU don't have "Nintendo" as a part of their name.
>>318767725
Gyro aiming is shit for competitive play, it's just a gimmick
>>318767750
Because handheld games are usually always cheap, shallow, ugly and don't hold a candle to their console counterparts. There's a reason why people tend to ignore the handheld Zelda titles when discussing the series.
>>318767819
That's because Nintendo thought it was a good idea to sit on their asses for a whole year figuring how to make games in HD instead of working on that shit before releasing the Wii U
>>318760219
>no one cares
>The best selling games on the current systems are mostly multiplats.
News flash Nintendo fanboy, if your console doesn't have 3rd parties is Wii U garbage tier.
>>318760527
it's already happening; my niece plays video games and she wondered why I still call the DS a gameboy once.
>>318767603
Fair enough. I'll believe Nintendo gives a shit when I see it, though. A true Metroid sequel would be nice too.
>>318767895
I guess regular controllers are gimmicks too because they're shit for competitive fighting games
>>318762193
Anyone figure out why the WiiU was called Project Cafe?
>>318767736
No one would argue that 2 buttons weren't better than 1 button
No one would argue that thumb controlled axes weren't more comfortable and more accessible than clunky sticks
On the other hand, waggling and touch controls are, especially for a home console, something that I imagine a lot of people kind of wonder "ok, you CAN do this, but should you? is this easier? is it more convenient? what does it add besides a fleeting sense of novelty?" and most importantly "is it truly better"
That's what makes waggle and touch screen a gimmick, because if everyone agreed it was better, it would have been adopted by everyone. Most people think it's just annoying once the novelty is gone, which is what Nintendo should avoid. If its only value is a novelty, it's the worst kind of gimmick
>>318759767
They are so fucking dead...
>>318760004
Its called journalism, son. Something negatove occures with the company and someone posts an article with him and an angry/serious face while in the other hand you'll get a happy like photo when good news are posted.
>>318761508
Reggie is the only one in that picture that looks like he doesn't give a fuck and just wants to get paid.
>>318768262
Take a sip while you wait for games
>>318760004
What makes u think that the yakuza are evil mean looking people? Japan fag here and my boss used to be a yakuza, pretty chill guy.
All Nintendo had to do was make newer versions of old games that we all love and want. Let Sonyfags on /v/ cry rehash all they want, because i know what I want, and what I want is what I've always wanted from Nintendo.
>More Zelda games
What did we get? HD remakes and Tri force hero spinoffs. Not what we wanted. We're all eagerly waiting for Zelda U.
>More Metroid
>More Animal Crossing
Again, the shitty spinoff amibo crap is not what we wanted.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Zelda is a MASSIVE system seller, especially in the West. The fact that they've taken THIS fucking long is a major blunder on Nintendo's part.
I don't own a Wii U, and I never will until I see Zelda U.
>>318768278
Are you saying that you can't see how a touch screen is better for menu navigation? Or how gyro is better for quick aiming?
>>318768278
If it's the WiiU what we're talking about, you might be right (even though I think the idea could work). The best thing about the WiiU GamePad is that you can play the game even if you can't or don't want to use the TV. The touchscreen might've been implemented better, I guess. Still, I think it is great for a portable console, and the DS did it in the best way I can think of. It adds something new, while not being intrusive and not taking away anything else.
>>318766660
I will never understand people's problem with gimmicks. Why is it automatically a bad thing if it's a gimmick? Nintendo's thinking of ways to mix up how you control and play games and shit in attempts to make something fun out of it, and people complain about it because it's outside of their comfort zone.
I liked the Wii and it's so called "wagglan". I liked the Wii U and it's controller with a screen. DS with it's two screens and touchscreen. I n fact, I support "gimmicky" VR. To some extent, they made fun games with these gimmicks.
Companies that do "gimmicks" should not be castrated just because they made one. They should be castrated when the gimmick wasn't well thought out and nothing fun came out of it.
>>318759767
'NX' sounds like the kind of short name you'd give a phone.
>>318767916
Bedtime, junior.
>>318767916
Except there have been many times where handheld games are better than console games. There is nothing inherently wrong with being done cheaply. Having a budget of 300 million dollars don't automatically mean it is better than a game made from 5 million. Funny you mention Zelda, because Link Between Worlds is commonly accepted as being better than Skyworld Sword and Twilight Princess.
>they think NX is a system
>implying it's not a TV channel like disney XD, devoted to nintendo game let's play, cartoons and advertising, with broadcasted tournaments and exclusive tv shopping for rare amiibos and goodies
>FF7 Remake will be released on the NX
A man can dream.
>>318768457
>More Animal Crossing
Again, the shitty spinoff amibo crap is not what we wanted.
The amiibo game wasn't even done by the AC team, let alone Nintendo. The AC team did Splatoon instead of a console AC.
>>318768964
what would the purpose of another ac game serve? nothing. you can play new leaf. you don't need it on a console as well.
>>318768753
Don't think too much, if analog sticks were introduced today people would be calling it a gimmick
>>318767668
Exclusives are what sell consoles to you and me you dumb faggot.
An extensive lineup of games, multiplatform or not, are what sell consoles to casuals. Most people buy a single console each generation and play all their games on that console.
>>318768753
Not to say, "gimmicks" actually make sense. They try to give the console something special, something that a PC game couldn't have by itself. It gives you a reason to buy a piece of hardware.
>grown men play Mario
Any particular reason these threads haven't been reported to the FBI?
>yfw the NX will be the console that doesn't have gimmicks, just games
>yfw said games will be F2P and/or casual. and i don't mean nintendo casual, i mean angry birds casual
>>318761512
Nintendo doesn't make games complex enough for that shit. Actually, no one does. They made this huge ass controller with gyro, microphone and a screen and at the same time released the most lame, safe bet games ever.
>>318769259
The FBI lurks 4chan full time.
Kimishima has the right ideas, but let's not forget that the man has less than a year until his retirement. Even if he does work hard until then (and from the looks of it he is) he will only be able to do so much.
>>318769273
They have de DeNA deal for that market
>make a new system
>don't abandon two old systems
Third Pillar much?it's gonna suck and Wii U will get a few shits for two years before disappearing completely
>>318768880
>24 hour reruns of Mario Bros Super Show and Donkey Kong Country
It would be the ultimate go-to channel if you really wanted to spend your time in the worst way possible.
>>318769384
The DeNA games will end up on it for sure
Maybe 3DS support as well
>>318769274
Shame they don't have a strong, sassy, independent developer that don't need no rules.
>>318768487
>Are you saying that you can't see how a touch screen is better for menu navigation
One small perk does not compensate for a clunky, awkward design. It's not nearly as uncomfortable as the old square NES controllers, but it pales in comparison to small, ergonomically designed controllers, like the Wii U Pro. Gyro can be implemented in a standard controller and I still think it's not as good as stick, for anything other than novelty gimmicks
>>318768539
Off screen play is either something you use or you don't. I personally have my own TV that I spent an awful lot of money on and I enjoy using it, in fact, resent not being able to use it because Nintendo's vision was an asymmetric experience. Perhaps for some people it works well but the same people might have well just bought a portable console. I bought a home console because I wanted to connect it to my TV. Hopefully the NX's home/handheld paradigm pans out so people can just buy what they want, because off-screen is not useful to me, and the only reason I even own Nintendo handhelds anymore is because I would miss out on exclusives, not because I enjoy playing portably
>>318767136
>Consoles should have been standardized since a long time ago
If that was true, why doesn't everyone just get PCs? What's the point of consoles if not for the exclusives?
>>318769509
How are you enjoying those kinect classics?
>>318769372
He definitely won’t be a one-year president
“I know that everyone is interested in how long I will be around,” he says, laughing. “I really want to say that all the initiatives I’ve discussed with you, these are on me, these are my responsibility and I have every intention of seeing these to fruition.”
“Also, something I think that maybe was misunderstood previously was, there was talk about me being around for one year. What that was, is the board of directors, as a member of the board, the term is for one year. And at the next shareholders meeting we have to be reconfirmed as board members. That happens on a yearly basis, but there was never any meaning that I would only be president for one year in that conversation.”
“What I really want to do is work with the young and talented staff members that we have at Nintendo, and continue to nurture and grow them, so that they can express their creativity, but also so they can take on some of those management roles and become the leaders we need to take the company into the future.”
>>318769681
>Perhaps for some people it works well but the same people might have well just bought a portable console. I bought a home console because I wanted to connect it to my TV.
I don't have a WiiU, but I would like one. Having a portable console doesn't replace it, because it has different games. I would honestly use both, depending on what I want to do.
>>318769710
The point of consoles is a cheap alternative. Even cheap PCs are generally more expensive, and PCs that are cheaper are generally weaker because they have to have a lot of things that you don't need in a console, not to mention consoles are and were historically sold at a loss
Just because consoles had exclusives historically does not mean that that was their "point". It was an unfortunate SIDE EFFECT of a lack of unified hardware, because developers only had money to make games for one platform, so they typically just made them for the one that sold the most. Only the large studios could afford to do multiplats because developing the same game 3 times was the same as developing 3 different games, it made more financial sense to just make 3 different games unless you had a sure hit on your hands
It's not a coincidence that PS4 and Xbone are x86-64. And NX will be too, and we'll finally be out of this non-standardized hellhole where the only exclusives are 1st party
PS4 SLIMDUCKING WHEN?
>>318770031
>Having a portable console doesn't replace it, because it has different games.
Games should be playable anywhere. I should be able to play 3DS games on my TV and Wii U games on my 3DS, and I wouldn't even own a 3DS in this case because I'd never want to play games on my 3DS.
Consumers are being artificially restricted. Again, the NX seems like it's going to change this so that's a good thing
>>318761620
Gyro aiming, ingame map for rpgs, menus and shit.
Why you guys don't have imagination?
>>318769712
I haven't played a Rare game since MS bought them, I'm just sayin' (and it's true) that Rare provided that higher-level experience which Nintendo is unwilling or unable to do themselves. Games like Perfect Dark would never come from a company like Nintendo, they need a smarter, more 'high-level' 2nd party who can deliver those more demanding experiences.
>>318770568
They already have Retro for that
>>318768347
no way, look at reggie in that pic. he looks more like he's thinking "when will this shit be over so I can go back home and play mario maker". he look like exactly the type of manchild nintendo SHOULD be marketing towards instead of literal children.
>>318770443
>Games should be playable anywhere.
Fuck that noise, I want my experiences to be unique, not to have my home console games designed to work on portables.
Closest I'll come to something like that is Super Game Boy. It was pretty boss playing Kirby 2, then turning it off, taking it out of my SNES, putting it into my GB, and being back to playing, all in ~10 seconds. But let's be real here, consoles now take 10 seconds to turn off or on, to hell with sitting there and waiting for data to save, transfer to new hardware, all that other bullshit.
>>318759767
>All those people that keep saying that NX will replace Wii U despite Nintendo saying multiple time NX will be a side console, and they get BTFO'ed another time
>>318765860
GC had third party support though. It was failing and still managed to get RE4 exclusive for some time. Wii U is more akin to the Virtual Boy. Both are built around an underused gimmick, and both have only a handful of games.
So, this makes it sound like this won't be coming out until 2017. It would work with the pattern for sure...but what fucking games are in the pipeline for the Wii U? After Zelda there are literally no releases planned.
Doesn't he mean "we will continue to make no games for the Wii U like we always did" lmao
Wii U and NX confirmed to be Nintendos DOOOOOM
fuck yes, finally
>>318770686
Oh yeah, delivering Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong accessories forever. Prime 3 was what, 8 years ago now? Call me when they are allowed to do anything on their own without Nintendo holding a carrot in front of their faces.
>>318770827
Yeah, just like the DS was a side-handheld
>>318770897
Yeah, look at all the great things Rare did out of Nintendo, I'm sure Nintendo had no input on the amazing games they delivered
>>318770873
There's Pokken, Starfox, and apparently Twilight Princess HD counts as a frountrunner for some reason.
That seems to be it, for the time being. We may get more unannounced titles though.
>>318770827
Yeah, but remember in 2004 when they claimed the DS would be the 'third pillar' of their system strategy, alongside GCN and GBA? That really lasted, huh? Remember all those GBA games they kept making? Drill Dozer, Wario Ware, that crappy Yoshi tilting game. Then nothing.
>Nintendo will never die and have to sell Retro, Monolith Soft and Intelligent Systems
Worst feel, only reason I buy their consoles.
>>318771082
AFTER Zelda U. All those games are coming out before.
>>318764809
Why are you so negative, Anon?
Nintendo has two possibilities:
1) The NX will be a pure gaming console, like the SNES/N64/NGC was and we got a great, new console.
2) The NX will bomb, a total disaster. Nintendo will go the Sega route and I will buy the next Mario Kart for 10 Dollaridos off of g2a for Steam.
Either way, gaming wins.
>>318759767
NX is going to be some kind of cell phone gimmick that caters to casuals.
Probably going to be able to use your phone as a controller or even play NX games on your phone.
>>318771058
And I'm sure it was Nintendo who came up with the ideas for Perfect Dark, Killer Instinct, and fucking Conker's Bad Fur Day, and that it wasn't at all a case of Howard Lincoln's excellent relations with the Stamper brothers allowing him to convince Nintendo execs to ease up and let Rare do what they needed to do.
Guidance and suggestions are fine, but Nintendo needs, as I said, a strong independent entity to be their right-hand man, not a weak-willed team that's easily led around.
>>318771126
Every company would be jealous of such a dumb sheep customer
>>318770443
>Consumers are being artificially restricted.
Not really. Home consoles are generally more powerful than portable consoles.
>>318771427
Agreed, I shouldn't buy what I want.
>>318771231
>Nintendo will go the Sega route
Yeah.
I fucking love Sega these days.
>>318770953
Exactly. It was.
>>318771231
>gamecube
>great
That turd was as much of a flop as the WiiU.
Gimmick or no gimmick means nothing.
>>318771231
Nah, Nintendo hasn't gone Sega's route yet. They've profited off all their consoles, even the Wii U.
Sega had huge problems with the genesis and its add-ons, the Saturn, the cancelled Neptune, Nomad, and Dreamcast. They tried way too much and fucked themselves over.
>>318771686
What are they doing nowadays anyway? They finished the 3DS Classics series so I don't know anything aside from Yakuza 5: Never Ever Edition.
>>318771231
>SNES
more of the same
>N64
gimmicky controller
>GC
gimmicky discs
:^)
>>318771818
They shit themselves in the corner of the room and then pass out.
>>318771778
they were an arcade company, and arcades get ahead by constantly pushing new hardware R&D. Problem was, console markets need a long-lasting support base, not constant new upgrades and editions. Thta's what really fucked them, along with inability to adapt to new industry trends and shitty management.
>>318771603
Resolution actually scales really well between 480p and 1080p considering how powerful a handheld would realistically be. It's probably how Nintendo will unify the NX library. Nintendo's divided library is what's killing them
>>318762286
Name 1 GameCube game released during the Wii Era
Do it.
>>318768753
There's nothing wrong with including gimmicks. The problem is Nintendo designing everything around said gimmicks. It backfired with the WiiU and now the console has nothing going for it. You can't just slap two Wii consoles, add a tablet and call it a day.
>>318771925
Same as the last 15 years
I'm just glad that Sammy gambling money and autistic sonic fan's wallets have kept them alive long enough to put out the 3D Classics, finally some good home ports of a good chunk of their popular games.
Still sucks that it's over now, we'll probably never get a great Virtua Racing port now.
>>318759767
Nintendo is going the way of Sega
>>318771818
Outsourced Sonic Boom then blamed Alien Isolation for its slow profits that quarter, made a full fledged game with Game Freak that walked like an indie platformer, and gave a good PR guy the seat to control the Sonic Twitter account.
>>318770759
The 3DS takes just as long to boot up and into games, and handheld hardware is going to become increasingly parallel to home consoles in this regard.
Also fuck your "unique experiences". Consider every console and handheld up until the 6th gen, they're all emulatable on PC and what has been lost in the "experience"? Fucking nothing. Maybe a few games you need a special controller, one with analog triggers for instance, in order to get the proper experience, but that has nothing to do with the hardware that's running the games. Your "muh experience" is nothing more than nostalgia and no different from faggots saying MGS5 wouldn't "feel right" on PC as opposed to console. It's utter nonsense.
>>318770530
You just listed everything done to this point. Is just a novelty. It isn't solving a huge problem.
>>318772004
I don't agree, I think that consoles and portables have significant differences which demand different foci and force fundamental considerations in design. Nintendo themselves has championed this very tenet for 26 years now, and has beat back competitor after competitor who attempted to 'put the home console in your pocket'.
I don't think they're going to start winning the industry by changing a core tenet of their strongest asset.
>>318772615
This, I was willing to believe in the Wii U but 3 years of 'play without a TV!' has convinced me that no one in the professional field has had any good ideas to try, or at the very least that no one has the money/resources to work on an innovative title for the system.
>>318762623
underrated kek
"The DS will be a third pillar, we won't be discontinuing the Game Boy line"
>>318772624
>a core tenet of their strongest asset.
3DS is predicted to become Nintendo's worst selling handheld ever and Wii U is certainly its worst selling console. They need to change if they want to survive. Supporting 2 separate libraries is not something they can do all by themselves, and there's every reason to believe the major 3rd parties will continue to shun them because people just don't buy 3rd party on Nintendo consoles
2 libraries just spreads Nintendo too thin, and that's far more detrimental than whatever you think is a strong point in their current philosophy
>>318772734
Probably something to do with tapping on a touchscreen to affect things that are happening on a TV on the other side of the room isn't very intuitive. All the DS games that make good use of touch controls involve you actually touching gameplay elements.
This is also why I feel like the new Starfox will bomb. The whole looking between the gamepad and TV thing for different perspectives on the battle sounds like a nightmare, honestly.
>>318759767
>moving away from wii shit
finally
>>318763327
This.
Pii Poo owners just got shat on. I'll be here staking it out for the NX while you guys watch your paperweight collect dust.
>>318772937
>3DS is predicted to become Nintendo's worst selling handheld ever
So the preditcitons are already wrong, since it has already sold more than the GBA.
>>318772378
>Sonic's Twitter
I'll be honest, that's the best Twitter account around right now. Also, having Robotnik 'hijack' the account, while his voice actor responded to questions, was fantastic.
>>318772937
People don't buy third party on Nintendo consoles because developers don't release AAA titles on Nintendo consoles. Developers don't release AAA titles on Nintendo consoles because said consoles are bogged down in proprietary hardware, gimmicks, and a company that doesn't make any effort to help them. Other developers then avoid them because they don't want to make games for a console no one is buying. Nintendo are the ones digging their own grave here.
>>318772394
there's a big difference between where and how you play portables vs. when you play consoles. Making one game for both of them disregards this aspect and in the end one of them suffers for it. I don't know what you're getting on about with the 'muh experience' bit you shoved in there.
As for startup/load times, the only way that would be real is if they started using the same medium for both home and portable units. That would basically demand that the portable be a pocket version of the home system, which is something Nintendo will likely never do because, as stated before, they've spent the better part of 30 years beating competitor after competitor who tried to do exactly that.
Post yfw
>>318759767
>that will appeal to our consumer base
Do they even know who their consumer base is anymore? They both lost the casuals and hardcore with the Wii U.
>>318773520
I dont care about F-Zero.
>>318772060
Twilight Princess.
>>318773520
>Not calling it F-Zero NX
ONE JOB
>>318773005
It will be, believe me. The DS works because they're two identical screens right next to each other. The Wii U has two vastly different displays that are anywhere from a few inches to dozens of feet apart. It's a terrible scheme, and problems were visible a mile away. I still had good faith that Nintendo could do something with it, surprise us, but apparently that was not the case given what we've seen from them.
>>318773281
To be honest, Nintendo sees 3rd parties as something of a liability, an entity capable of damaging the Nintendo brand image. Probably stems back to the Famicom where they spent all their time in the US trying not to become the next Atari.
nintendo is diving further and further into irrelevance, lmao
>>318773549
What hardcores I wonder.
The ones who didnt buy the Gamecube already?
>>318773281
The only reason AAA devs didn't release on the Wii is because they couldn't fill the game with DLC. Instead they just launched shovelware and that just put the WiiU in a bad position due to the install base being deliberately built away from Nintendo systems.
Only an idiot would think the third party devs were giving the cold shoulder to a system that was at one point selling more than the other 2 combined because of hardware. It's because if CoD sells 20 million they'd want those guys to be on the systems that those customers can buy the map packs or season pass on. Hence why CoD4 was launched on Wii 2 years after the other versions when Cod3 sold a close 2nd best on Wii.
>>318773520
>201X
>all they can offer is a port
Fantastic.
>>318762295
At least they learned they lesson with MK2
>>318772306
>Nintendo is going the way of Sega
Yea, no
>>318773943
this, Nintendo isn't the company they once were but their management isn't a box of tongue-slapping wunderkinds like Sega's.
did console manufacturers always talk this openly about in development consoles prior to publically revealing them?
>>318762458
>losing money by producing a console.
>>318773091
I always wonder what kind of person would actually take the time to write "Pii Poo" and genuinely think they've burned someone or made a funny joke and I finally came to the conclusion that you are either extremely stunted in maturity or not old enough to post here.
>>318773756
>Nintendo sees 3rd parties as something of a liability, an entity capable of damaging the Nintendo brand image.
They manage that pretty well on their own.
>>318759767
so... the nx will be another gimmicky garbage that no one actually wanted. FUCK YOU NINTENDO JUST MAKE A POWERFUL FUCKING CONSOLE AND ADD NINTENDO GAMES TO IT. STOP WITH ALL THIS GIMMICK SHIT PLEASE.
>>318773806
Also Ubisoft and EA sabotaged the first WiiU years, remember ME3 and Rayman?
If it's more filler shit like mario tennis and amiibo festival then just let the wii u die peacefully after zelda
>>318762286
>Wii
Nigga, they nearly completely abandoned the Wii a full year BEFORE the Wii U was released.
>>318774070
No. The only reason Nintendo even announced the NX as early as they did was because they wanted to soften the blow of the mobile partnership announcement. If they didn't then people would have just assumed that Nintendo was giving up on hardware.
>>318774318
I want them.
>>318774318
>implying that anybody wanted the Gamecube
>>318774659
Aren't you busy purchasing amiibos?
>>318774098
>losing money by producing a console.
Its happened before, the PS3 was sold at a massive loss of ~$200 per system at $599. Then they slashed the price to $499 and then $400 to compete with the 360 and lost billions.
This would be like if Nintendo were mass producing WiiUs and selling a Mario Kart or Splatoon Bundle for $50. Or just simply handed them out for free.
>>318759767
Oy vey..
3DS successor
>>318774665
gamecube had gimmick shit also. aka the small discs and the C control stick.
>>318774735
I would only buy one of them, but I'm too lazy to go out and buy something like that.
>>318764223
>like Xenoblade Chronicles.
and... uh...
>>318774946
The c-stick is just a small analog and the discs are regular small dvds.
Neither of them are gimmicks.
>>318773806
It was because of hardware. No developer is going to want to develop a second version of their game so they can make it work on a weak console with a retarded controller, which isn't even marketed at their target demographic. Not being able to add DLC on top of that is just the icing on the cake.
>>318775040
Then tell me why they keep making the ps360 verisons?
And WiiU have DLC support.
>>318775024
>gim·mick
>ˈɡimik/
>noun
>a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
>synonyms: publicity stunt, contrivance, scheme, stratagem, ploy; informalshtick
>"the trivia contest was a gimmick to sell more newspapers"
gamecube was the only company with these things thus obtaining attention to them by usinging them. They are gimmicks.
>>318774642
>mfw the NX is mobile shit and the sweet gooks was feeding the gullible fans bullshit all along
I'm not really a fan of Nintendo anymore, with their recent track record - but that would be so fucking shameful that everything else they've been doing would be insignificant.
>>318775217
>>318775220
I fucking love mind gymnastics like that.
At most the Gamecubes shape was there to attract attention. But calling that a gimmick would also push it.
>>318775220
>unga bunga look! that caveman has fire
>hurr unga fire is just a gimmick dunga
this basically confirms that the wii u will be nintendo's last console
nx will be a gimmick for phone games
>>318773520
>amiibo
>>318775486
CONFIREMEDthat you're a faggot
>>318775527
>not wanting to pilot a Rosalina-themed ship
>>318773806
Anon, Wii had more third party support than the WiiU. It even had third party exclusives. The only ones crying about the small storage were the Super Meat Boy fags.
>Nintendo isn't looking to create "the next version of Wii or Wii U" with NX, according to president and CEO Tatsumi Kimishima. Instead, the company wants its next platform to offer something completely new.
so not a console, gotcha, mobile gaming it is
>>318775486
>>318776047
Thats mean 3ds retards, its already on last legs.
>>318776271
it means there won't be a home console, this interview and zelda wii u confirm it
>>318762278
> inb4 3ds is a failure because it didn't do better than DS
Well, it did worse than GBA.
>>318773520
F-Zero is impossible on modern hardware. It's a game that pretty much has to run at 60 FPS, and 60 FPS is no longer possible to accomplish. It's also too expensive to develop. It's a niche game, but for even the niche to buy it they'd have to give it a budget that would depend on at least 5 million sales. No one on /v/ would even look at it if it didn't have full HD and tons of detail. And that's impossible to make for a niche audience.
So:
No console is powerful enough to run F-Zero at 60 FPS
It is too niche for a modern budget, and even the fans wouldn't buy it if it didn't have a modern budget.
>>318776271
>>318776271
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/unHR%2BCCf7m7Nlf0LSRzlFw%3D%3D
Ruggarall, usually you change the filename of your anime pics, you're getting sloppy.
Its the DS "third pillar" all over again.
>>318759767
It could be all talk, but I really like his stance. They had to come out with the NX sooner to make up for their Wii U loses, but just abandoning the consumers that bought it would be in bad taste. Specially when you expect them to continually support your products.
And all this talk about how the NX is completely different from their current consoles make me want to get more inf about it already. Hopefully it's not to far out for consumers and devs.
The only saving grace is that Nintendo is pushing pre-installed/download able games. They've mostly stopped selling bundles with physical discs, probably to push digital Wii U games over to the NX.
blemp
>>318762773
>the c-stick on the gamecube is a gimmick
Am I being trolled right now?
Yes. Yes I am.
>>318765485
It's like pottery - it rhymes.
>Luthor is drinking in his office when Superman arrives and they discuss recent events separated by a glass window. Luthor accuses Superman of being the end of human achievements, Superman claims that Luthor takes himself as superior to other humans, and is terrified that for all its wealth and power he is still beneath all the heroes that fought in Metropolis and fight everyday for an ideal grander than themselves. The ideal of justice. Luthor vows to destroy Superman. Superman claims he'll be waiting.
could this be the GOAT comic book scene we've been waiting for?
>>318774243
Mad butthurt pii u baby
So it's a new handheld
>>318774243
Kids like to smear walls with shit winkled outta their asses, it can't be helped.
>>318760812
It will need to support the shitty wiimotes and/or wii u tablet. I'm sick of wiimotes.
>>318776508
It didn't.
>“A challenge that we’re facing right now is, our earliest goal for the Amiibo was to have these connected to software and have them enhance the play experience for the consumer, and for other consumers to say ‘I see my friend using this Amiibo with that software and it looks great,’ and again increase that attractiveness of that combination. What we’re seeing instead is that the Amiibo are being picked up more as a collection item at this point, rather than, say, as an interactive item with software. And so we haven’t really established them as an enhancement for all of our software at this point.”
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>318786938
They really have no idea what the fuck they're going.
NX is Oli and liO, two devices which are "like brothers"
>>318759767
What he means is that there will be a Wii U version and a NX version of their games for the first year like what they did with the Wii and Wii U.
Then after the first year.. it's all NX games.
>Flat out says it's not a home console
>People plug their ears and still say it's a home console
>>318780257
When it doesn't exist before, it is a gimmick to draw in users by doing something different. Only historically will something be considered an innovation.
>>318787942
Where does he say that stupid?
>>318787574
A cellphone and a 10 buck dvd player?
>>318759767
absolutely based.
Of course, saying and doing are different things but it is in their best interest to keep happy the people most likely to be early adopters of NX.
>mfw the cancer killing Nintendo was killed by cancer
>>318767994
Eh, my mom called the her wii a gameboy once so it's not that bad.
>>318763275
>3DS2 and 3DS2TV
Anyone who thinks that concept would amount to anything else knows nothing about tech.
The nintendo ceNsorXip
>>318773520
>F-ZERO GX HD
All they would need to add is online multiplayer.
>>318760963
But none of those are the main focus of the fucking console you dumb blonde
>>318776701
>60 FPS is no longer possible to accomplish
>>318762773
Everthing from Famicom-gamecube was a IMPROVEMENT on the controller already built.
With the wii they threw all that work out the door.
>>318766602
Show working.
>>318773832
no anon
>NX
>>318774006
I would have said that 3 years ago but the wii u anon.
The wii u.
>>318763367
>1. You know jack shit about the NX, so stop assuming you do. I'd be glad if you were right and it was a some new powerhouse dream console, but current Nintendo is just one fuck up after another. I fully expect another Wii U level mess.
Except it runs on different architecture you idiot, look in to comments made by Iwata maybe before you start shitposting?
>2. Nobody is gonna be splitting anything except Nintendo. Not anybody elses problem they fucked up so bad and need to mop up their own mess. Last thing you want is the remainder of your fanbase jumping ship.
Ah so you WERE talking shit, good to know.
>>318773761
>irrelevance
>every day /v/ becomes more and more nintendo only.
>>318796358
>look in to comments made by Iwata
he never talked about it except by name.
>>318796490
Where? All I ever see are threads shitting on them.
Which they deserve right now
>>318796358
>look into comments made by iwata
>Implying that they didnt scrap iwata's googoo baby fuck up conosle the second he stopped breathing
>>318796316
>The wii u.
Is STILL profitable last I checked, and so is the 3DS, and so too are Amiibos.
>>318796358
>Except it runs on different architecture
Do you even know what that means?
