>Mega-Evolutions allowed
Well now, maybe Charizard X/Y will actually last longer than a few sec-
>Digivolutions also allowed
Jesus christ.
Have they ever done a battle that was this much of a curbstomp before? Even AstroBoy vs. Mega Man wasn't this one sided.
>>318711573
>Digivolutions also allowed
Can't Digimon basically digivolve into fucking anything?
>>318711573
Raiden vs Thorand Goku vs Superman
>>318711813
It's gonna be Digimon Adventure Greymon with Tai and Charizard will be the one used by Red from Origins mixed with the Red from Gold/Silver apparently.
They could use the entire species feats from all sources though
>Digivolutions also allowed
So Charizard is completely and utterly boned?
Fuck, I have a hard time picturing a single pokemon that can beat WarGreymon
>>318711813
Yes and no.
Warp Digivolutions let them go straight up to anything in their immediate Digi-Chain (Agumon --> WarGreymon).
But they have to De-Digivolve to hop over to a separate chain.
DNA Digivolution is different and fucked, there are no rules about it.
Looks good
How much damage would Seismic Toss do to WarGreymon?
Would Dramon killers work on Non Digimon?
>>318712181
There literally isn't.
When a Pokemon evolves, lower level AND lower evolution chain pokemon can still beat them. Their power increases, but only slightly. No pokemon even gets twice as powerful as their previous evolution.
When a digimon digivolves, their power increases by several orders of magnitude. Rookies aren't beating Champions, Champions get fucked by Ultimates, and Ultimates generally can't even fucking touch Megas, let alone hurt them (with very few, strict, angel vs. demon related exceptions).
MetalGreymon fucks everyone not named Arceus. He'd probably still fuck Arceus, but it might take a bit of time.
WarGreymon crushes literally the entire Pokemon universe.
>>318711573
It really depends. Are we using anime v. anime logic, or game lore v. game lore logic?
this whole argument is worse than millennium falcon vs. enterprise bullshit
>>318712906
There is no argument. Greymon wins.
>>318712271
>Dramon killers
Yes they would work, they are fucking Chrome Digizoid spikes that easily pierce rock and metal. They go through Charizard's hide like a hot knife through butter.
>Seismic Toss on WarGreymon
Nigger, WarGreymon isn't getting TOUCHED by Charizard. Seismic Toss against Greymon would hurt, but Greymon's taken harder falls with little damage, so it wouldn't do much. Also, Greymon's much fucking bigger and heavier than ANYTHING Charizard's ever been able to lift before. We're talking 10 times fucking heavier than Blastoise. Charizard ain't picking Greymon up worth shit.
>>318712271
Any hopes for the fight itself?
It is a Season finale after all
The last time a Death Battle episode was a season finale was Goku vs Superman 1
>>318713080
Going by game logic weight doesn't really matter though.
But WarGreymon is still highly faster than Mega Charizard X
>>318712906
>this whole argument is worse than millennium falcon vs. enterprise bullshit
>some people legitimately think the Falcon could do shit against the enterprise
No one's arguing that Charizard's getting fuck all done in this fight. They're wondering why Death Battle is running with what is essentially a slaughter instead of a fair fight.
Any Digimon that is armored with or made of Chromedigizoid is invulnerable to any Pokemon. Only something else made of Chromedigizoid can harm it, which is either another Mega Digimon or a weapon like Zudomon's hammer.
Machinedramon, MetalSeadramon, or MetalEtemon would annihilate the entire Pokemon world without getting a smudge on their bodies.
>>318713467
Demand, people seriously demanded for it.Mewtwo vs Black WarGreymon would have been a better Pokemon vs Digimon match honestly.
Are we going to count the feats on the Pokemon Pokedex? Because going by the Pokedex the Legendaries in Pokemon can easily beat anyone other than the reality warping Digimon and even then there are reality warping Pokemon like Palkia, Dialgia, Giratina and Arceus. Then again, the Pokedex is fucking ridiculous. A single Alakazam is smart enough to mind control the entire human race.
>>318713702
What about psychics?
Can they mindfuck them?
>>318713702
If we count Pokedex feats Dialga makes them stop in time. Giratina sends them into nothingness via a black hole. Palkia rewrites space. Arceus rewrites reality.
>>318713390
Greymon's 15 feet tall (minimum), mostly pure muscle. He weighs at LEAST 2 tons, and more than likely 5 or 6. Going off all mediums (Game, Anime, Manga).
Charizard's at MAX height (in weird anime filler) is 8 feet. Their average is 5.6. Ash's is 5.2. At max weight, they hit 500lbs.
He's not using Seismic Toss at all.
This is like pitting a firebreathing T-Rex with useful arms against a flying Komodo Dragon. There's no fucking contest.
>>318713827
Their Pokemon Battle Royale did use Pokedex entries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcUSRT7CFPs
>>318713832
Mewtwo or Lugia could likely just hold them in place, but that's about it. And it's not going to stop them from using their ranged weapons. One Endless Cannon or River of Power and the Pokemon is bacon.
>>318713958
VictoryGreymon tops all of that, and is actually in Greymon's evolution chain.
Of course, WarGreymon would speedblitz them all before they knew they were getting hit.
Even MetalGreymon would be fine, considering he launches micronuclear missles, which none of those pokemon have ever been able to tank.
>>318713229
I remember Wargreymon splitting a sea in half or some shit in season 2. I don't see Charizard winning against any greymons.
>>318713229
>Charizard vs Greymon is getting the Goku vs Superman Treatment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
>>318714161
No, I know my Digimon lore. Short of the deities no Digimon can compete with the Pokedex Legendaries. Dialga can control the flow of time. You can't be faster than Dialga. It literally moves faster than the speed of light, can rewind reality, make it slower and time travel. It's virtually unstoppable.
>This Pokémon completely controls the flow of time. It uses its power to travel at will through the past and future.
And Palkia controls reality and space:
> It has the power to control time. It appears in Sinnoh-region myths as an ancient deity.
> Its total control over the boundaries of space enable it to transport itself to faraway places or even other dimensions.
> It has the ability to distort space. It is described as a deity in Sinnoh-region mythology.
>>318714225
No splitting seas, but the fight between WarGreymon and BlackWarGreymon was pure awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igoV-VoFms
>>318714456
Neo does literally all that shit and he isn't even the strongest in the digimon verse.
>>318714456
What if one existed freely in and beyond space and time?
>>318714456
Zeed Millenniumon.
>>318714456
Hence why two rookies can beat it in Mystery Dungeon, or why 12 year olds can capture it in a ball?
>>318714536
It wasn't a sea but I remember blackeargreymon literally evaporating an entire lake with a fire attack to destroy a stone that the kids had to protect and he ended up releasing something.
>>318714225
Maybe if they didn't allow digivolutions, Mega Charizard X could fight Greymon on equal terms due to its speed and mobility, because he can't fight Greymon head-on, it is much larger and stronger than Charizard, mega evolution or not.
Now WarGreymon? If Mega Charizard X strongest attack puts even a dent on its armor it is already inaccurate bullshit.
And WarGreymon claws are dragon killers, meaning he one shots Charizard with any physical attack.
>>318714626
That's the strongest Digimon, it doesn't count.
>>318714593
NEO is deity-tier and far stronger than any Royal Knight, Angel or Demon.
I'd say Mega Rayquaza, Mega Mewtwo, Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre and a couple of other uber legends are the only pokemon with the SLIGHTEST chance of beating a fucking Ultimate let alone a Mega.
Charizard literally has nothing in this battle. They can't have Char win and they can't see its close.
If Digivolutions are allowed he is done.
>>318714718
I did say going by the Pokedex information. Like how a single Alakazam is smart enough to mind control the entire human race.
Can't wait for you Metal Seadramonfags to get BTFO.
>>318714456
>VictoryGreymon
>Zeed Millenniumon
>Apocalymon
>Imperialdramon Paladin Mode
There's a lot of others, but I'mma stop here.
>trap Greymon in computer
>Teach Charizard how to install an anti-virus
There he wins.
>Terra Force[10] (Gaia Force): Takes all of the energy within the atmosphere and concentrates it into one spot, then fires it as an extremely dense, high-temperature energy shot.
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Wargreymon
How deadly would this be in real life?
>>318714823
Going by Pokedex entries the Sinnoh legendaries are by far the strongest in the Pokemon world. Groudon and Kyogre just control sea and land, the Sinnoh bullshit controls time, space and reality.
>>318714739
Oh yeah, that part. BlackWarGreymon literally made a rip in the ocean to get one of the sacred stones that was keeping the Digital World stable. Blew away a pod of Dolphmon and a MegaSeadramon doing it, as well as Submarimon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2jjV47H20
Screwattack is most likely going to mention the fact that that Blackwargreymon evaporated this lake with a fire attack and Wargreymon fought him to a draw.
Charizard's attacks aren't any wear near that strong.
>>318714979
>Imperial Dramon and VictoryGreymon
>on the same level as Zeed
Yeah, no.
>>318714905
Going by Pokedex information is retarded. Going by the equivalent in Digimon, WarGreymon's Armor is literally impenetrable by anything not made of Chrome Digizoid and reflects absolutely all attacks.
Pokedex was written by 12 year olds and senile old people. Do not trust the fucking thing.
>>318712638
Everything you said except the part about Pokémon evolution is false. Digimon are entirely capable of beating digimon of higher evolved forms. It's happened a shitload of times in the anime and manga and is actually really common in games. The increase in power is not that huge. And, no Wargreymon doesn't beat the entire Pokémon universe. If fucking Magcargo can generate more heat than the surface of the sun and isn't even close to being top tier, Wargreymon would eat shit if he tried to take on even a baby pokemon.
>>318715064
MagnaAngemon was able to physically fight BlackWarGreymon to a draw and almost sent him into a Gate of Destiny. If BWG hadn't smashed the stone MagnaAngemon would have won.
>metalseadramon fag again
these are the most autistic threads on this board. this isn't even really vidya. what the fuck is wrong with you
>>318715135
But Palkia can manipulate space and separate WarGreymon from his armor!
If Greymon were to lose how would Screwattack explain why?
>>318715135
>Chrome Digizoid and reflects absolutely all attacks.
That's not entirely wrong. When it comes to chrome digizoid, it's almost impossible to break it unless you're extremely strong, or the other guy is using a weapon made out of even better chrome digizoid.
I hope Charizard wins just so this spoils the one thing Digifags have
>>318715251
Charizard landed a crit
Zygarde can beat any Digimon. Fact.:^)
Pokedex entries is like Saint Seiya attacks. You see small beams that barely destroy a stone temple but they say that they're throwing Big Bangs at each other and moving at the speed of light.
>>318715001
>e): Takes all of the energy within the atmosphere and concentrates it into one spot, then fires it as an extremely dense, high-temperature energy shot.
>http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Wargreymon
>How deadly would this be in real life?
This is basically Goku's spirit bomb without the 5 minute build up.
It'd fuck up the area really, really fucking bad.
And there'd be no pieces left of Charizard. At all.
>>318715001
That's basically a chunk of white dwarf star matter, incredibly dense and incredibly hot. Anything within 500 miles of it is going to be burned or radiation poisoned to death, and if it impacted the ground it would create a crater five times larger than the one from the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.
>>318715238
It's don't think it's him, it's actually happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KehZYh0a6lk
>>318711573
>mfw Charizard wins
I'm calling it. They going to do an asspull of epic proportions.
>>318715325
Shouldn't you be bowing down to your new youkai watch overlords?
>>318715393
There are Pokemon hotter than the temperature of the sun.
>>318715397
the posting style is uncanny. that youtube shit and all power level shit is absolutely retarded, but this guy takes it to a whole new level
>>318715349
That's the same as the descriptions for Digimon, though. MetalGreymon's missiles are supposed to be as strong as atom bombs, but in the anime they only make small, clearly non-atomic explosions. There's like 5 digimon who are "the fastest". And chrome digizoid is unbreakable unless they pull another type of digizoid from their ass and none of them is actually unbreakable because digimon without digizoid armor or weapons can still win.
>>318714536
>digimon can't even hit a car
>>318715593
The sun is 6000 degrees.
A white dwarf is over a million degrees.
>>318715593
No, there is a single pokemon that has a pokedex entry saying it can generate twice as much heat as the surface of the sun.
You know what would happen if that pokemon actually could?
Everything around him in a 5 mile radius would be instantly vaporised. But that doesn't fucking happen now, does it.To top it off, WarGreymon's Armor lets him handle it anyways... he's a little OP
>Digimonfags are reduced to power levels squabbles
>>318715972
The one bone Death Battle threw us, they gave us a shit match up.
The fuck else are we supposed to do? We gotta wait 2 more months before Cyber Sleuth
>>318715856
You know what would have happened in Tokyo if Wargreymon's signature move was a white dwarf? It would have been vaporized along with the entire planet when he used it against Venom Vamdemon. If you're going to call bullshit on the Pokedex, you might as well also call bullshit on Digimon info.
>>318716118
Nigga just watch Tri
Would any Pokemon be able to defeat a Digimon based off of a god or goddess?
>>318716893
Yes. Digimon based off of gods or goddesses are just data that took that form. They're no more gods than Agumon. Arceus is literally God.
>>318716893
Probably Mercuriemon and Apollomon both weren't that great
>>318716507
I didn't say it was a white dwarf, other anon did.
And yes, I already fucking said that Pokedex AND Digimon lore should be straight ignored, since it's factually wrong and contradictory in so many ways. Pokedex is written by 12 year olds and senile grandpas, and Digimon lore is just straight unfounded myth.
Took you a fucking while to realize that. Just go with straight feats.
>>318715856
>>318715593
Did you know that the SURFACE of the sun isnt THAT hot?
The average lighting is "hotter" (the air around it) than the surface of the sun.
Some metals dont even melt at that temp.
>>318712105
It should be Alain's Charizard instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEbRDHPIIPo
Red's shitty Charizard would be stomped.
>>318717448
>>318717406
What about The Seven Great Demon Lords?
>>318714593
NEO let the protagonists win. The fuck are you going on about? That sort of shit means he cannot be beat. Outside of maybe Zeed, no Digimon can compete with him.
>>318717718
definitely has a solid chance against Greymon if he's going Mega X, but he gets stomped something fierce against anything higher though
you're right, much better than red's shit
Just a quick question about WarGreymon's attack.
Is it Tera like terabyte or is Terra as in the earth?
Named after a unit of measurement seems to make the most sense because it's preceded by Mega flame and Giga destroyer but the X evolution movie clearly has WarGreymon-X perform Gaia force so I just had to ask.
>>318718325
Tera as in terabyte. greymon's attacks scale Mega Flame > Giga Blaster > Tera Force
>>318718096
I think he can hold his own against MetalGreymon for a good minute because Mega Charizard X tanked Origin Form Groudon's attacks. Origin Form Groundon is stronger than base Groudon, who's a threat to the Hoenn region. He'd still lose though.
>>318718325
Terra the Earth. As in he's harvesting energy from the Earth. WarGreymon X, a powered-up WarGreymon with X-Antibodies, uses Neptuno Force which is the same attack but water based.
>>318718325
Could be a double pun
>>318717718
What if they used scaling, applied both of their feats, and compared the two for the match in order to determine how powerful Mega Charizard X is?
>>318718325
>>318718445
While the Mega > Giga > Tera would be neat, the japanese name is actually Gaia Force. The english name is Terra. It's named after the earth.
>>318719280
They could literally have both Red and Alain's Charizard's show up, Mega Evolve (which they can't do without a trainer, but meh), and they would probably beat Greymon.
And then promptly get stomped by MetalGreymon. This bitch is 4 stories tall minimum, and skyscraper size at max.
>>318719280
Origin's Charizard X barely has any impressive feats. All it did was defeat a featless version of Mewtwo and Mega Punched him through some rocks. Keep in mind that the anime Mewtwo was able to destroy an island after waking up.
On the other hand, Alain's Charizard did this in his first battle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevIltzBHx0.
>>318719280
Ash's Charizard gets eaten. Immediately.
Red's Charizard goes to Mega X, then gets stomped. Immediately.
Alain's Charizard actually puts up a decent fight, and though he probably still loses to Greymon, it'd be one hell of a match.
Here's a better question.
Can any Pokemon OR Digimon defeat Godzilla?
Does anybody else really like the design of the angel type digimons? I can't really think of any other angel designs being executed as well in media aside from Diablo's angels.
>>318711573
Greymon vs Charizard x/y would be one sided.
Charizard would get his ass fucked.
It would be like a little bird trying to kill you.
>>318718676
>>318718445
It probably just works in both ways.
>people ironically thinking digimon is worth shit
lel
>>318715345
Zydog just looks like a Ben10 thing
>>318720854
I remember liking that one with the armblade.
It's actually Red + Charizard vs. Tai + Greymon.
Which means Charizard is doubly fucked. All Red does is provide direction and strategy, since Charizard is fucking useless on his own. Greymon's actually a smart fuck who makes his own strategies, which generally actually work really well - Tai's there to give him energy to digivolve or power up when needed.
Apparantly it's starting with Agumon vs Charmander too as well. This is about the only fight that's actually worth watching, since Agumon isn't leagues above Charmander. A class or two higher yes, but not leagues.
Death Battle is literally the most autistic thing I've ever seen anyone get upset about. Some armchair neckbeards determining which imaginary character will win in a fight. Why do people get mad at the results of some autist that thinks he's a drill sargeant?
>>318722816
Ya his name is Holyangemon I think? I think Seraphymon is the neatest of the bunch.
>>318723157
It's the extension of One Minute Melee, which are actually pretty fun.
Could Knuckles actually kick Wario's ass? Would Luffy really fuck up Naruto that badly? Who cares, watching it was fun. Death Battle was supposed to be an extended version of this, but you're right, they fucked it up and are pretty much making it the most autistic thing imaginable.
Greymon kicks every Mega Charizard and lower's ass, while Agumon definitely beats up Charmander and loses to Charizard.
Literally the only question about this fight is whether or not Agumon can beat Charmeleon.
If Greymon evolves into Omegamon its over, Omegamon has the power to see into the future and the only way to cancel that ability is to be Alphamon
who cares charizard will win via asspull because viewers and revenue
>>318715001
>Charizard wins because mega Charizard X is 4x resistant to "fire"
watch they'll use that excuse. ending of the battle will be terraforce, it'll seem over then Char X will burst through and kill greymon in some edgy manner. it'll be bullshit but I feel like that'll happen.
>>318711573
>Have they ever done a battle that was this much of a curbstomp before?
Samus vs. Boba Fett
He Man vs. Lion-O
Thor vs Raiden
Doom vs VaderBatman vs. Spiderman
and more
like nearly half of the death battles are curb stomps.
>>318726489
>Omegamon has the power to see into the future
That hasn't been used in anything though.
Is death battle the only deviantart fanfiction that /v/ likes and thinks is acceptable?
>>318713390
Now that I see it, Groudon would have been a much better choice. I know they picked Charizard because it's so popular but it's just too damn weak in both, anime and games. Groudon would have made for a more interesting fight.
>>318727632
He probably meant Omegamon-X anyways who did have that ability but I doubt they'd go that far.
For what this thing is you'd figure it would actually generate more money than what it does. Maybe they need to start using waifus more.
How long until powerlevels start getting crazy in the Pokemon universe?
I know GF loves Mewtwo but it's possible that they make something completely retarded.
>>318728537
It already happened with gen 4 but then it got stupid with primals and megas and now zygarde 100% and hoopa unbound exist which don't look like they belong at all
>>318725369
I don't think it matters but Charmeleon and Agumon should be about the same power level. The difference is that Agumon only has claw attacks and a small fire blast, about the same power as Ember I'd guess, maybe a bit stronger. Charmeleon on the other hand has a decent variety of moves and even if it could only use 4, it would still have more options to use during a battle.
As long as both of them are about the same power, I think the variety of offensive and defensive options decide the outcome of the battle.
>>318728825
I mean even crazier. Mega Evolutions aren't that insane. Primals and Mega Rayquaza (which is a Primal evolution in my opinion) are much closer to actual power level inflation, regular Mega evolutions are very specific power ups in comparison.
>>318715661
>There's like 5 digimon who are "the fastest".
Really? Can you tell me the names?
>>318729225
Well as long as you stay alive for the next 20 years you'll see pokemon do some yugioh synchro monster tier shit and you'll have shit like another pokemon thats eight times stronger than arceus that arceus was just a limb of or some shit
>>318729225
Rayquaza is already stupidly overpowered even without the mega, he blew up an 6km long asteroid, it was calculated at something like 23.7 gigatons at lowest possible end and 91.2 teratons at best. Even the tsar, strongest nuke ever used, "only" was 50 megatons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOJ5tOnbjqM
>>318729712
when the fuck does this happen?
Is Digimon more autistic than Pokemon? Its exactly like some 12 year old thought Pokemon was too babyish and came up with the most overdesigned shit and gave it dbz powerlevels shit
>>318715001
It's a Spirit Bomb that looks like the Death Ball/Supernova. It'd fuck over a planet hardcore.
>>318720840
The creation trio and Arceus for pokemon, pretty much any mid-high tier mega/ultimate digiimon, which there are about 30-50 of depending on what you go with as canon.
This is assuming 2014 goji, Showa would be having a hard time even with some ultimate/perfect digimon and the weather trio from pokemon.
so fucking autistic
The only pokemon that could even possibly compete with the majority of mega/ultimate digimon are the weather trio, creation trio, and arcerus, and a good 20-30 of those digimon would still shit all over the weeather trio, Arcerus and thee creation trio just stand a chance because reality warping.
>>318732484
Mega mewtwo in both versions would fuck shit up just as bad as the creation trio
>>318711573
Fuck. I love pokemon and all,but this is fucking one sided. It'll get tons of views though and plenty of salt so I guess they're happy. Can't really think of a way charizard could win without severely nerfing greymon. Should've just been an all out war 721 vs ???
>>318732167
Pokemon Mystery and Dungeon, and Pokemon: Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, the later was said to be "more than six miles in diameter" and former was stated to be capable of destroying the world, and a low end of destroying the world=only killing all forms of life was used, if you really wanted to you could get a lot more than the numbers that I gave you.
>>318715661
>clearly non-atomic explosions.
stop playing fallout you autistic retard oh my god
>>318727698
no one thinks this is acceptable but 10 autists in their basement who write deviant art fanfic
>>318732484
Arceus is a god, THE god of the pokemon universe.
The god of the digimon universe is arguably a guy, just a normal dude.
Only reason any character that isn't a dante or superman level of OP would win a fight let alone survive a fight with arceus is because he wishes it for some reason.
>>318711573
>Implying Charizard would have a chance.
What's the point of these things again?
>>318711573
>Charizard goes into his X mega evolution
>Dragon/Fire type
>Greymon digivolves into Wargreymon
>Literally anti Dragon type
>>318711573
Ok /v/,give me your bat shit reason death battle would use to make charizard win or alternatively how could charizard reach a state of power where he can kill greymon?
>>318734717
Charizard survives long enough for greymon to expend his energy and reverts to Kiranmon or whatever that baby form is.
Charizard then eats him.
Something about how greymons attacks are just not as strong as charizards.
Remember that charizards flame can reach sun temperatures, if mega evolved into charizard Y that power would almost triple with the sunny day passive that comes into place.
>>318733531
The god of digi-verse is Yggdrasil.
>>318711573
Can someone explain to me why they decided to use Red's Charizard for this battle instead of Alain's or any other Digimon?
The battles are getting more and more fucking retarded.
>>318736458
Red considered a legendary trainer. Ash's charizard was strong and is only at around level 60-70 reds is stronger
>>318711573
They're going to have charizard win for views and contraversiality
>>318735194
>Sun temperatures
Everyone knows most of the shit on the Pokedex, especially the older one, is pure bullshit. That kind of stuff never really matters in the battle itself as seen in the Pokemon battle royale.
