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what went wrong?
The cast being a multicultural abomination.
Why can't the main character be white and not ambiguous brown?
Asking for a ludicrous amount of money for a simple game that doesn't look all that interesting, especially since the team is a small indie team anyways.
Why would they possibly need all that money?
They did a horrible job of handling the campaign, they let Mike speak publicly and a lot of the character designs are pretty meh.
>>318347441
>Why would they possibly need all that money?
Because video games aren't made of magic for free.
I don't know if you're pretending to be retarded or not at this point.
Assuming the gets the last minute push, it might actually get funded. They really should have designed a smaller, more focused game and had their "true vision" or whatever as a stretch goal, though.
>>318347219
You posted it again.
>>318347441
It costs a shitload of money to keep devs on your payroll.
Remember, they're not there to work for free.
>>318347383
Is this a joke post
Asking too much for a game people aren't interested in.
>>318347569
>Assuming the gets the last minute push
It's on its extension, the push already happened.
They asked for too much, plain and simple.
Now, is it unreasonable how much they asked for? No. They were honest and transparent with us, telling us straight up that the game would cost 3mil, and that it needed 1.5mil from crowdfunding or it'd never see the light of day. People refuse to believe (for whatever reason) that games cost money to make, especially when you're doing what LZ is trying to do with all the individual animations.
Also, they shouldn't have released a prototype. People thought, and still think, it was a beta. People on here of all places still think that. They played it and thought "oh this is really unpolished and has very few features, so that must be what they're trying to accomplish"
What they WANTED us to think was "wow this is rough but it gives us an idea of what they are eventually going to imrpove upon." You know, like a prototype. People either couldn't understand that or refused to accept it.
>>318347659
SJW's pls leave
>>318347685
This.
>>318347685
./thread
Everyone go home, shows over.
>>318347579
Guess they should actually make games that get them capital like almost every other fucking dev.
Who the fuck puts 1.5 mil as their initial goal. That is a fucking insane ask.
>>318347678
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you know how long 5 whole days is? Its 5 WHOLE DAYS
Do you know how hardcore shilling for this game will get in that time? less than 300k is fucking nothing. This game is guaranteed to be funded and im saying this as someone who fucking wishes this abomination would get strangled in the crib.
>>318347926
Someone who needs to raise 1.5 mil and don't feel like lying about it?
>>318347992
So you do what every jackass on KS does, set it lower and put shit into stretch goals. Give yourself some kind of option, some kind of breathing room. They're five days away from walking away with nothing.
Aside from the way they set up the campaign, which isn't necessarily bad but just doesn't work as well, I think the character designs are nearly all just bad. Only a few characters stand out or are just nice to look at while the rest feel uninspired and boring.
No fucks given about a dirt bag team censoring their fighting game because it triggers sjw faggots. Casualized gameplay, removing arenas from randomrotation, "improving" panity shots. Why should I trust them? No, fuck them.
Basically they asked for way too much. Cool they told us straight up how much it was going to cost and how much they needed, and I think the game has a lot of potential, but does 2.5 million mean they couldn't successfully make the game?
I think the game has a lot of potential, especially in some of the great character designs (some are very, very questionable however). The combat is a little different, but isn't too different to be a game changer.
I don't think this will be the end of Indivisible or the last time we'll hear of it; they'll find a way to release it even if they don't get what they want.
>>318348153
I don't know if that would have worked? Unless they outright lied about the other 1.5m coming from a studio.
If they set it at, I dunno, ~$500k and it got funded up to $700k and the big publisher pulled out, they'd be left with their pants around their ankles and forced to push out a shitty not-even-half-funded game.
>>318347219
>build a fanbase based off of fightan and fanservice
>Get rid of ALL OF THAT
>What went wrong?
Gee, I wonder why alienating the people who supported you and paid your bills the first time around would make your campaign fail. I fucking wonder why.
>>318347992
They didn't need 1.5 million. The four characters cost about $225 000, according to them (the cost of one Skullgirls character.) With a roster this big, filled with so many hit-or-miss characters, they could have easily gotten rid of a few bland designs (is anyone really going to miss Antoine?) and brought the cost down significantly.
>>318347926
Post the Dinosaur character.
WHY IS IT CALLED INDIVISIBLE WHEN I CAN STILL SEE IT?
>>318347685
>Also, they shouldn't have released a prototype. People thought, and still think, it was a beta. People on here of all places still think that. They played it and thought "oh this is really unpolished and has very few features, so that must be what they're trying to accomplish"
>What they WANTED us to think was "wow this is rough but it gives us an idea of what they are eventually going to imrpove upon." You know, like a prototype. People either couldn't understand that or refused to accept it.
God, that really hits home.
I'm making a game and was actually considering doing exactly the same thing, though I might not go the public funding route. I might just throw it up on Steam Greenlight or something.
But this really made me re-evaluate my plan to release a prototype to build awareness. I'm not sure what I'm going to do now.
>>318348356
>I don't think this will be the end of Indivisible or the last time we'll hear of it; they'll find a way to release it even if they don't get what they want.
Looks like you havent heard the guilt tripping sob story yet. They're completely done if this campaign fails. Lab Zero is dead.
Personally im happy since it means zone will actually have time to do more porn now instead of being mike Z's bitch.
>>318347982
>if i repeat a lie enough it'll come true
>>318347685
>Also, they shouldn't have released a prototype. People thought, and still think, it was a beta. People on here of all places still think that. They played it and thought "oh this is really unpolished and has very few features, so that must be what they're trying to accomplish"
The amount of completely unironic comments to the effect of "the background textures are really low quality" is especially amazing.
>>318348609
Make better games maybe.
>>318347219
What do you mean
Hate it all you want, it's going to get fucking funded no matter how much you want to believe that it wont
its going to happen
and there's nothing you can do.
>>318348381
>$8 million
jesus christ that looks awful
>>318348220
Wat. Source?
>>318348754
Never, ever KikeZ.
>>318348626
That's exactly what I'm fucking talking about, man. And it blows my mind, do people not understand what a prototype is? It says it very clearly on their IGG page.
It just blows my mind that this is what the games industry has come to. Fuck arguing about SJW/Neckbeard rhetoric, fuck all that stupid circlejerking nonsense. Fuck gamergate or whatever that shit was about. The most disappointing thing is that gamers, and not just casual/sjw/female/boogeyman gamers, can't distinguish between a clearly labeled prototype and a finished product.
>>318348369
>characters are literally the entirety of the game
>>318348618
Why would I lie about this? The places I frequent are shilling the FUCK out of this game and hard.
Less than 300k is absolutely nothing. Especially when it comes to crowdfunding.
That last push to get its extension that I hoped wouldn't happen happened. The exact same thing is going to happen this time. I may not like the game but at least Im not sticking my head in the sand about it. Its going to get funded whether we like it or not.
Any shills lurking, post any new incarnation. is hand girl the latest?
>>318347219
people didn't actually want a game with valkyrie profile like gameplay
>>318348906
So many buzzwords in your post, invalid.
>>318347219
Female protagonist
>>318347219
Skullgirls was shit that got forgotten in a few weeks no surprise here
>>318348695
Let's get real for a second.
What would the quality of the game ACTUALLY have anything to do with popularity or awareness?
Sure, a good game would get word of mouth, but that only actually works one out of every ten times.
And what is someone who is actually making a game supposed to do with that suggestion?
"Oh, I was going to scale back the quality a bit. I didn't want to release the best game I could possibly make, but your post has changed my mind!"
>>318348381
I saw this on Amazon the other day. It's literally just a deck of 52 cards with an instruction manual that costs $25.
>>318348906
these people are just trolling, dude, most of /v/ didn't even try out the demo
>>318348626
The problem I have with the prototype is more fundamental than that. Even assuming they tweak the platforming stuff to make it not feel awful and expand on the combat until it's fun, stopping your exploration every few steps to have a battle ruins the flow of the game. There's a reason most Metroidvanias either give you a ranged weapon or give you incredibly powerful melee, because combat is second to exploration and progression. This start-and-stop is the fundamental game structure, and there's no real way to fix that without changing the entire structure of the game.
>>318348914
The most expensive part of the game is animation, and the characters are the ones requiring the vast majority of the animation.
>>318349049
So you're entitled to make your game? Regardless if not enough people are aware or do not find enjoyment in it. People should donate out of the goodness of their hearts? Not for something they want?
>>318349148
>stopping your exploration every few steps to have a battle ruins the flow of the game. There's a reason most Metroidvanias either give you a ranged weapon or give you incredibly powerful melee, because combat is second to exploration and progression. This start-and-stop is the fundamental game structure, and there's no real way to fix that without changing the entire structure of the game.
Jesus H Christ somebody finally fucking gets it.
My god why dont more people understand that this right here is one of the absolute biggest problems with this game and why I firmly believe this whole thing was a poorly thought out and bad Idea just to keep their artists busy.
>>318349148
>stopping your exploration every few steps to have a battle ruins the flow of the game
This doesn't happen though, hell you can beat the prototype with only entering like 3 fights. And you don't even enter combat with low level enemies once you power up, you can kill them without ever entering a battle or just avoid them.
>>318348369
>They didn't need 1.5 million.
That's right, they need 3.5 million.
>>318348773
I have it. It's fun.
The reason it was funded so much is because it's basically the perfect storm Kickstarter campaign
>Recognizable name
>Funny visuals
>A simple premise easily executed
>Very quick turnaround time
It's not like a video game where you wait three years and the end product may or may not look exactly the way you'd want it to. The Exploding Kittens campaign was litterally "Here's a game, here's how the game is played, here's exactly what the cards will look like, pay us 25$ and you'll get it within six months"
>>318349107
Its shit faggo.
>>318349337
>why dont more people understand that this right here is one of the absolute biggest problems with this game
Because it's not true, for one.
Hell, once you have completely powered up in the prototype literally no enemy can actually stop you except the secret boss.
>>318349016
>that iamge
What the fuck?
>>318349107
It's not just /v/, it's pretty much every website that talks about games that allows the general public to discuss shit. It just boggles the mind.
I'm not even terribly interested in the game! I played the prototype, I thought it was fun for what it was. I'll be bummed if it doesn't get funded, but I was not going to purchase it right away if it does get funded. I'm just disappointed in the community as a whole.
>>318347219
>2016
>side scroller
>without publisher
>asking 1.5mil to make
A mere 600k is more than enough for any side scroller without MMO or MMORPG element.
Developers nowadays overconfindent on their worth and value in the market, thanks to steam or any online market place boosting their overinflated ego.
Kickstarter has fucked up people's expectations of what a game is supposed to cost. Shit like Bloodstained and Yooka-Laylee ask for almost nothing, with people not realizing the bulk of the funding is coming from other sources. Other Kickstarters are deceptive, setting a stupidly low initial goal and then hiding the rest of the game in stretch goals.
Laymen have always underestimated the cost of development, but it's really bad these days. Games were already costing millions to develop in the 90s, but now people are like "What, you can't make this modern 3D game with high resolution artwork for 2-400k? Are you stupid or something?". People seem to think if you can't pull a Notch and make billions from some poor Java shit you made in your free time then you're just not trying hard enough.
>>318349334
...what?
>>318349471
>Hell, once you have completely powered up
So after you have already gone through the part of the game where it is true?
Or I guess you could also avoid all enemies and never level up so that bossfights are impossible. That's another option.
>>318347219
They didn't hire this guy as their character designer.
>>318349471
for the first 90% of the demo this is not the case
and this will be the same for 90% of the full fucking game, you stupid shit
>>318349559
>A mere 600k is more than enough for any side scroller without MMO or MMORPG element.
You are utterly delusional.
Explain why Bloodstained, a game cheaper to make than Indivisible required 5.5 mil then.
>Developers nowadays overconfindent on their worth and value in the market, thanks to steam or any online market place boosting their overinflated ego.
Which is why they're working for far less than average pay, right? Makes complete sense.
>>318349580
>People seem to think if you can't pull a Notch and make billions from some poor Java shit you made in your free time then you're just not trying hard enough.
But you obviously aren't trying hard enough?
honestly, the world would be filled with notches if people just tried a little bit harder. Some bootstraps is all they need and they'd actually be making money.
>>318349559
>A mere 600k is more than enough
That's a pretty bold claim. Care to back it up?
>>318349676
>for the first 90% of the demo this is not the case
You're clearly very bad at math.
>full fucking game, you stupid shit
And very angry. Good combination, are you a Trump supporter? Or Carson?
>>318349427
Oatmeal has probably got to be the ugliest and stupidest webcomic going. The epitome of "lol fahny face!" humour.
>>318347678
>the push already happened.
it gained 35,000 dollars today
yesterday it gained 26,000
the day before it gained 13,000
the final push is coming and it's blindingly obvious.
>>318349664
I bet that guy has a fart attack, too
>>318347383
What does it matter either way? Whine about something that's an actual problem, like the boring combat or shitty platforming.
>>318349539
you offended? Little bitch nigga you is.
>>318349559
Oh look, someone who has no concept of how making a game works.
>>318349807
Better than white kucks like Sanders or Hillary. Both are literally kucks.
>>318347219
People gave it money.
>>318347219
Shotgun focus when it needed a rifle, revealing all the characters leaves no surprises, prototype comes across as demo which leaves impression that gameplay and character designs are already complete/won't get much better.
>>318348220
They did it because they're autostart and thought it looked weird and impractical.
It's funny the only triggered niggers are the waifufaggots. You have a million other panty shots and you butch about one change that still shows bare bootycheeks?
I'm glad Lab Zero is going under. Hopefully Shitgirls dies and waifufaggot numbers dwindle. I really want Kike Z to go back to making games like Battlefront 1 and 2 and quit pandering to cancerous Tumblr and Pixiv faggots. Also his faggot ass just needs to go back to playing Guilty Gear because his fighting game sucks balls.
>>318350003
There isn't much on the face of the earth that isn't better than Hillary, but in this case you're actually wrong.
>>318347219
The people who have money are white males and there isn't one showcased
They are asking for a LOT of money, rather than setting the goal low and going over
They used indiegogo instead of kickstarter
$30 to get the game, which will be well below $30 the first time it goes on Steam sale
Skullgirls, while it looks good, did not catch on in the fgc aside from a very small amount of niche players
They are not selling any specific person's idea, you can't relate to a couple silly anime pictures. Image related. Also,nobody really likes Mike Z
>>318348220
>dirt bag team censoring their fighting game
When?
Where?
>it triggers sjw faggots
What are you talking about, le epic buzzword man?
>Casualized gameplay
You what?
ITT Shills blame white male gamer oogeymen and use buzzwords like female protags, brown people, and feminism instead of uninteresting concepts and gameplay.
mariel is such a qtpa2t
>>318350254
Fuck off shill.
>>318350118
I think we can all agree nobody likes Mike Z. Fighting game developers in general tend to be close minded insufferable dumbasses who spend too much time jerking it to frame timing and not enough time thinking about core gameplay.
>>318350118
>which will be well below $30 the first time it goes on Steam sale
You mean like $20? That's a pretty bizarre claim.
>Skullgirls, while it looks good, did not catch on in the fgc aside from a very small amount of niche players
I imagine that has more to do with the fact that Skullgirls was unfinished barely playable garbage for the first few years of its life, and only at the start of this year finally started shaping into a good game.
>>318347219
Uninteresting and bland for the most part. The characters look like they're just there because the designers wanted variety, it doesn't feel natural. I can't pinpoint why exactly these designs are shit, all i know is that its really shit.
The gameplay is similar to whats been done before and doesn't carry the game at all. There is nothing about this that makes it seem like a game i'd pay more than 2.50 for.
>>318347738
>call out someone for making an irrelevant post about the main character's gender/race
>get called a SJW
How does logic work?
>>318348609
You're better off making a REALLY good proof of concept instead of a playable prototype.
See hyper light drifter, NONE of that video they used for their KS was actual gameplay but people ate that shit up. Hell at least it seems to be shaping up, good for them
>>318349887
Where do you go to see that?
>>318350102
You're factually wrong kucker.
>>318350391
Muh sjw boogy woogy censorship man
>>318350118
Who gave this cunt permission to use the le ironic shitposting face?
>>318350391
woah bro, didn't mean to trigger you there, I'm so sorry.
>>318349694
>explaning how a "software" company works
Son, if you never been working in any software companies then you never seen shit. Most software including games have always overbudget with stuffs like utilities or personal uses but registered under company name, especially with a mid-small or mid level company.
>working for far less than average pay
wait what ? lemme rephrase that for you.
"They're working far less FOR average pay."
nuff said, software companies tend to overspend on non essential stuff. Plus the game you posted basically reaps horny weeb fans who loves fan content or and castlevania like fans.
im not supprised shenmoo will get the funds over the roof coz the guy working on it only does the facial capture tech back then.
>>318349580
Crowdfunding is too fickle and anyone who stakes their company on it is a fucking retard who can't manage their finances. For example: how the fuck did Mike Z manage to give Konami all the profit for Skullgirls? Why does he think having an office in San Francisco is a good idea when Lab Zero doesn't actually do anything that produces sustainable capital?
Nobody should blame the consumer for being overly cautious about giving their money to devs who don't want to (or can't) go the traditional route by being bankrolled by a publisher.
Especially when the costs break a million.
>>318350463
>kucker
I can't tell if this is self parody or what, but it is funny, I'll give you that.
Oh well
>>318350391
Looks like some one has been triggered. Better head to your safe space mate.
I want readit and neofags to leave.
>>318349539
>What the fuck?
I dunno whachu mean
>>318350369
For me, I stopped playing the game when they announced a patch for 360 that never came out.
The entire community had switched to the PC version and I wasn't going to buy the same game again.
Shows that they don't have a very good reputation
>>318349998
better than you do, go cry to your "community".
Get a real job if you're still in crowdscamming industry.
Seriously, I hope people think a bit before putting these large as fuck projects on indiegogo from now on. They may cut you a better deal but man you'll really fucking struggle to meat your goal.
Sure it sucks that KS has a fucking strangle hold on these type of things, instead smaller projects with smaller goals should use indiegogo and build it up so it can actually compete.
>>318350596
You should head back to your regular blogging site :)
Why do they need so much fucking for, what the demo seems to indicate, is merely an indie game? Toby Fox only needed 50000$ and his game is probably way better than indishittible will be
>>318347219
If they miss the mark, I'll bust a gut laughing. These threads have been some of the most cancerous trash I've seen on /v/ in a while due to how defensive the fans are.
I didn't give a fuck about Indivisible earlier but these shit threads have convinced me to actively hate it.
>>318350568
>lemme rephrase that for you.
>here I am lying because I know you are right but I have no argument or evidence so I'll keep insulting them and attacking you on a personal level so I can feel better about myself
Neat.
They worked multiple jobs, with Skullgirls being less than minimum wage and they still did tons of extra shit for free.
Indivisible will pay them less than the average pay for software engineers, etc.
You being delusional doesn't change facts.
>>318350213
>Can't be bothered to read or search for yourself
They censored multiple frames of fighters.
The most obvious being the "panty" shot everyone talks about, every single thread.
Shill/Troll please go or do some research.
>>318347219
>release free gameplay demo
>it's shit
Nothing wrong here.
>>318350538
>>318350664
Not him but feel free to stop being edgy faggots anytime
A game is not made better or worse due to the race or gender of the main character
I suggest you go back to the /pol/ echochamber
>>318350369
Its an indie trash game. When you see it on Steam, it won't be more than $30 full price.
Likely will be 20 or below within a year of release.
Indie trash games don't sell if they're more than $10.
>>318350808
Amen
>>318350695
>I stopped playing the game when they announced a patch for 360 that never came out.
That never happened though, all versions are up to date, unless you count the PS4 exclusive content they got paid for not coming out on PC yet.
>>318350745
It's utterly bizarre that people have "loyalty" to a crowdfunding platform.
>>318349991
It does matter you fucking SJW.
I don't want my vidya being Tumblr-friendly.
>>318350789
She needs extra money to pay for a therapist due to all of the emotional suffering caused by twitter bullies that goes along with being a female developer in a male dominated industry.
>>318350821
well why don't you fork out more money for them as a counter to my opinions ? it should encourage you to show you have more faith in them.
maybe start forking $100 each day ?
everything
>>318350894
>A game is not made better or worse due to the race or gender of the main character
Bullshit bitch nigga, Every game that lets me make my character a little brown girl is instantly 10x better.
>>318347219
>2015
>People still think people want to play RPGs
>>318350836
>I'm going to lie and assert shit with no evidence but claim it's your fault
Okay.
>>318347219
It's not fun.
Putting out a prototype was a really, really bad idea.
>>318351036
What is the point you're even trying to make here? Did you have a stroke?
I'm just glad this shit might not get funded. Regardless if it does get an injection from some 3rd party source. I'll a good 4 years to shitpost how bad it is diring production.
>>318350894
y-yeah guys, white people should be ashamed and everyone should race mix with proud trans people of color :^)
>>318350580
The point I am making is that 1.5 million is actually not a lot to make a game with, really. I have no problem with people who are skeptical about crowdfunding. No one should back a project just to keep people employed either.
But 1.5 mil isn't a lot.
>>318351121
Not him but I'm shocked you haven't heard.
>>318351109
>thinks the RPG audience doesn't exist
>RPGs still sell in the millions (big names at least)
Retard.
>>318351349
Fallout 4 isn't an RPG.
>>318350407
My fucking hard drive. I've been taking time-stamped screenshots for the last few days since everyone was crying about how crowdcharts stopped working but were too lazy to hit 'print screen' themselves.
>>318347219
Nothing, some revs wanted the populace to find their game, not enough people in the populace cared about enough to want to give it money, the game didn't reach its goal and isn't going to be made. I personally had no reason to fund it, it didn't look interesting or fun. I, and apparently enough other people, saw no reason this game should have their support, and thus it did not get enough money to be made. The way I see it a game that a majority of people didn't want didn't get funded by the people. People didn't owe them to fund the game, most games that are made aren't crowd funded, im sure they did need this amount of money to make the game, but people weren't willing to give that amount for it to be made. I'm sorry if I repeated some ideas in this, but the point was that people don't buy what they don't need or want.
>>318347219
can't stop it now
>>318351346
Meanwhile, in the other 99.9% of the game.Also those changes happened months ago but people only just now started to notice.
>>318350947
I guess you didn't get the game near release, but the 360 patch was delayed for over a year.
>>318351346
That is pretty scummy changing the game like that. Fuck these kikes.
>>318350695
to be fair
microsoft is fucking awful
>>318351378
Yeah, it's shitty gimmicky FPS that combines minecraft and garbage FPS. No wonder it sold so well, retards ate up that piece of shit.
>>318351385
/lzg/ stop advertising your shit here
>>318347219
>from the creators of Memewaifus: The Game
>One million five hundred thousand dollaridoos
>>318347562
You didn't really give an explanation, you basically just said "because they need that much money" it doesn't really help anything.
>>318351476
That makes it okay right? You are cancer.
>>318351385
>>318351465
>There are people who believe this game wont get funded
Fucking priceless. Even if you hate this game there's no denying its going to get funded now.
>>318351505
How? They cleaned up tons of frames, you know, polishing the game, that literally 3 of them happened to be panty shots and they changed them is scummy? That's retarded.
>>318351663
Never, ever KikeZ.
>>318347219
The game feels like Skullgirls with an ATB system. The only reason to play Skullgirls is for the waifus and Peacock's smug dialogue.
Battle system is extremely awkward, putting out the prototype was the worst thing they could have done.
>>318351618
>update a few ancient sprites
>a bit less panty
>thousands of other sprites completely intact and panties fucking everywhere
You should just kill yourself if you get this upset over such minor shit.
>>318349664
stop inserting your disgusting fetish into our games please
>>318351385
here's 2
>>318351565
If I was from lab zero I'd imagine I would have access to some way better data since I would then have access to the campaign-running side of Indiegogo
>>318351732
Kill yourself censoring soccer mom swine. Get AIDs
>>318351501
>over a year.
>never came out
>over a year
>never came out
Something is wrong here.
>>318351840
/vg/ in charge of reading comprehension
>>318349148
>stopping your exploration every few steps to have a battle ruins the flow of the game
Nail on the fucking head.
I could forgive this if it was Tales-style combat, but as it stands? Fuck no.
>>318351783
If they're so keen on keeping the panties intact then why is there 0 fanservice in the new game? Like not even a single bone thrown to their old fans?
>>318351847
Damnit, you made me choke laughing.
No one could seriously be THIS angry that other people aren't retarded drones, it is a funny act though, so thank you, I enjoyed it.
I'm ashamed I thought you were serious before.
>>318349664
>likes both Jojo and SMT
And you people say that persona fans are bad, when SMTfags are all like this.
TIME FOR ALL OF YOU TO CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE
>>318351783
You are literally the cancer in video games seeing nothing wrong with fucking up a game you already pay for and own. Get raped by niggers tumtard.
>>318351987
And why the fuck does that matter whatsoever?
>>318352051
Why are you still alive?
They asked too much money for a goddamn 2D side scroller in this time and age.
>>318352025
>when SMTfags are all like this
>all
Now that's some delusion.
>>318352021
You are this fucking brain washed to see nothing wrong with it. Please never breed Neofag.
>>318351840
The days go down at 930 pst? That seems really weird.
Did the day already go down today and we still have 5 days or am I missing something. I struggle with time zone stuff.
>>318348549
because we'll never see it funder
>>318350998
"I don't want minute bullshit that has no bearing on gameplay whatsoever meaning that people I don't like will enjoy a game that I may enjoy."
Why do you caaaaaare
>>318351850
I'd say 3 months of delay is enough to kill a game in the fgc. Check the patch history, they had some beef with XBL where Xbox was asking for a bunch of $$$ to ship the patch.
Labzero has a shit record, but their artwork is good.
I'm still on the fence. At worst, I could get it when it comes out or goes on sale for $30 or less.
>>318352124
Why are you still alive? Please for the good of the industry kill yourself.
>>318352217
>Labzero has a shit record
Yeah, keeping their promises while having to work second jobs and then over delivering is a shit record.
>>318352124
Because I cared about the fanservice in SK so I care about the lack of fanservice in IND.
Is it really that hard to follow?
>>318351840
And here's 3
>>318351918
Ah, I see. Well I'm just going to continue posting on whatever board I please no matter what you think.
>>318351346
Holy shit who gives a fuck
>>318352146
Purseowners like strong breeding waifus, and SMT fans like Jojo and dressing in fur suits.
I wonder if they will get a random 300k donation from a certain fat man.
This white male is triggering me. Lab Zero had better make him gay.
>>318352172
>You are this fucking brain washed to see nothing wrong with it.
You have yet to provide an argument for how fixing art is wrong, you can't claim it's censorship since they clearly didn't censor the game.
>never breed
Have a kid, nice try sport.
>>318352338
Please kill yourself cancer. You are a tumor.
>>318352404
>tumblr nose
into the trash it goes
>>318351987
>ajna hiking up skirt
>thorani
>pic related
Seems like a shame if this doesn't get made.
I've been looking for a good side scrolling action-RPG with more cartoony graphics.
>>318352051
The others are more granny panties/pantsu cute, the edited sprite is like a thong.
I actually think the edit looks better because it gives her the illusion of a rounder ass.
I don't play these games to jerk off, theres plenty of porn available elsewhere for that.
They made over $30k today. For the first time I'm starting to think they'll actually make it with the last day push.
>>318352407
Never, ever breed.
>>318347219
>RPG
>Creator of Skullgirls
>>318352195
>The days go down at 930 pst?
no, that's just a time I am always awake and usually at my computer so I take the screenshot then, the important part is that it's done consistently.
![69df77822d2134eafc37e5a135554b1c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ydmMpak.jpg "69df77822d2134eafc37e5a135554b1c[1]")
>>318352291
such is the life of an indie trash dev
>>318352293
Actually it is hard to follow why a grown adult cares about fanservice, autismo.
>>318352458
You are a deflection from the real issue of these changes. Kill yourself drone.
>>318352441
Honestly why are you so angry
This thread has been interesting... seeing the shift in tone and language structure in a number of posts here to those more frequently found outside 4chan. Maybe it really is being shilled.
>>318352623
Low test are you? Or maybe a cunt bitch.
>>318352540
Already did, but it's something you should clearly avoid, being the angry illiterate retard that you are, there are already enough people willing to blow themselves up or shoot up random public places because they can't read.
>>318351315
No. Instead your girlfriends should get ravaged by the BBC.
>>318352623
You're probably gay, that's why
>>318352453
Not him, but that's what, 3 instances (being generous here, since Anja isn't even remotely fanservice) out of ~30? Throw them all into tiny micro-skirts with pantyshots and tits flopping all over the place like SG, and then I might care. Chuck in a few more scantily clad lolies, and maybe even a trap for some good measure (they could write it off as SO PROGRESSIVE).
Also, I'm not going to lie to you; I want fanservice, and it is a selling point for me, to the point that it can make or break the sale.
>>318352623
>Actually it is hard to follow why a grown adult cares about fanservice
Because I enjoy it?
Are you supposed to just only enjoy football and beer and talking about the game around the watercooler with the guys at work and nothing else when you reach adulthood? No. Thats not how that works.
What went wrong? SJW dog knot taking kucks made it.
![reggie-fils-aime-shrug-640x426[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cXDxA8t.jpg "reggie-fils-aime-shrug-640x426[1]")
>>318352682
Your view is narrow, the world is not black and white, friend.
>>318352778
Kill your offspring. Its for the betterment of mankind if it doesn't your drone mentality.
>>318349052
$25 is actually not an unreasonable price for a card game. If you ever want to see the true face of the jewery threatening to consume vidya, look no further than the /tg/ industry.
>Cool Mini and Fantasy Flight selling $100 board games with $200 worth of expansion content on launch day
>Blatant Cards Against Humanity clones saturating the <$30 game market
>Steve Jackson shitting out a new flavor of that shit game Munchkin every other week that idiots eat up
>Dungeons and Dragons turned into a casualized mess with no character building choices allowed
>Tabletop wargames release a handful of new $25 OP must-have units every month or so
>CCGs are blatantly P2W and have been since their creation decades ago (and people complain about hearthstone, kek)
>>318352778
Man, you're fucking dense, you know that?
Those changes don't even make sense. Her skirt is lose enough to drop over her hips, but apparently too tight to flip up?
You probably should kill yourself.
>>318352789
>request a single bone
>presented with 3 bones
>THAT'S NOT ENOUGH BONES
literally obviously actually factually objectively clearly moving the goalposts.
>>318352841
>The world is either black and white or it isn't
Seems like pretty black and white thinking to me pal.
>>318352841
Get cancer and die :)
>>318348381
Cards Against Humanity is probably one of the worse things to happen to card games. Every week there is five new games like this on kickstarter every week trying to cash in on its success.
>>318352956
flipping up requires an upward force, if you ever actually watched the old animation it just looked stupid.
Fuck this thread is full of edge. Do these super edgy cunts really believe the L0 are SJWs meme? Holy fucking shit.
>>318352407
Tell us about your wife's son.
Two things
1. They should have used Kickstarter. It's just more popular
2. They should have waited until the final push to publish the demo and outright stated that the game is a Valkyrie Profile homage. They could have made it, but they mishandled the hype and now it's dead.
>>318349631
You can beat the prototype without beating either boss, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>318352967
>2 people with two different opinions
>moving the goalposts
You're doing it wrong.
>>318353081
Nigger please go go your blog.
>>318347219
guess theyre gonna have to suck dicks at a gas station lmoa
>>318352920
>drone complaining about drone mentality
Well that's adorable .
>>318352956
>I can't into physics
It's okay buddy, you tried.
I like the art, but detest that it's a "rpg" with no rpg elements, because Mike Z couldn't bribe his staff to work on yet another one of his fetishes. So we get an even greater dullard of a Valkyrie Profile that's more concerned with building meter than any aspect whatsoever of a RPG.
>>318347219
http://gematsu.com/2015/07/first-look-exist-archive-ps4-ps-vita
because this exists
>>318352967
I'm not the person you originally replied to. I'm just saying, I expected a mountain of fanservice after what SG gave us. I expected the the quality of the animation/fanservice that SG had, but a step higher. Instead, all I'm seeing is a somewhat bland cast (when compared to SG's cast) that has absolutely zero fanservice. They had dozens of opportunities in the prototype to throw in upskirts with Anja, yet she doesn't have any. It's as if they specifically went out of her way to animate her to not have any.
>>318353080
>>318353259
It doesn't matter anyway.
Lab Zero's still gonna close its doors after their funding disappears.
Deal with it, nerds.
>>318353171
Why do you think I have a blog you edgy cunt?
>>318353102
>we have a demo that will be released when backing reaches $1,000,000
Instead of using the demo to get them in the door, use hype FOR the demo to grab them. Perfect!
>>318353309
>Valkyrie Profile
Why valkyrie profile of all games? Like seriously, wasn't their anything better lying around to pull inspiration from?
>>318352820
Holy shit nigger, that strawman. Did you forget what board we're posting on? Football's retarded, but not as faggy as neckbearding it up by getting worked up over pantyshots in a fucking video game, holy shit
>>318353309
>but detest that it's a "rpg" with no rpg elements
Leveling to get better moves and change how you itneract with enemies, equipment managment, equipment upgrades, main and side quests, none of these things are an RPG element?
>>318353071
This.
I work in a distribution center for card/board games and every other week we get some shitty new game that looks EXACTLY like CAH, right down to the fonts and box designs.
I mean look at this shit.
>>318347219
This is what happens when you pander to tumblrinas http://indivisiblerpg.tumblr.com/
>>318352785
>not caring about 1 frame, 2-D pantyshots because real women are a thing
>must be gay
Okey doke.
>>318353381
Have you seen the IGG? It's getting funded, and there is nothing you angry parrots can do about it.
>>318353508
>In which I pretend to be from /v/ and complain about people wanting fanservice.
The cast is a clusterfuck. They could've been all white or all black and it wouldnt make a difference.
>>318352780
>>318352920
>>318352956
>>318353010
>>318353081
>Fuck this thread is full of edge.
I know, right? It's Sunday in the middle of the night, what are all these kids doing here?
I can only speak for me, so I'll say why I didn't fund it.
Because the game doesn't look good. The animations are crap and weightless, the characters are living tropes and the protagonist design isn't likable neither fapable.
The art itself isn't bad, the designs are. There's no research, you can tell they just made up whatever they felt like and that's not how good designs are born. See >>318352404. His armor is all wrong. He has armor on the back of his thighs, besagews are acting like pivots for the shoulderpads and none of the articulations make any sense whatsoever. Compare this to the over the top ridiculous armors from monster hunter. No matter how crazy the design is, the articulations are right, a couter is a couter and a poleyn works like one.
This is just an example, but happens to all designs showed so far. They all scream "amateurish work" while still having no soul. It's like the worse from AAA and Indie. Neither quality or attention to detail.
Sorry for any grammar mistakes, had a few.
>>318353102
It's pretty clear that they've done as well as they have because of the prototype. Their initial burst was about equal to what they got from the squigly campaign aka nowhere near enough, and their progress since then has been unprecedented in campaigns. The prototype was a huge source of publicity to attract people and it gave them a massive retention rate when people heard about the campaign through youtube e-celebs and gaming news articles. Most campaigns grind to a complete halt between the initial rush and final push but indivisible has picked up most of its followers in that time to make up for the poor initial rush.
>>318347219
>1.5 million
>simple 2d rpg
>"enriched" cast
>female protag
Did they really expected anything different?
>>318352770
2D cartoons don't get me riled up because I am neither a child nor a virgin. If you get babby's first boner over this shit, please continue to jerk off to it instead of imteracting with humans
>>318353309
>>318353528
Not to mention recruitable party members, dungeon crawling, etc.
>>318353508
Except im not getting worked up over it?
I enjoy fanservice in games. I enjoyed labzero and skullgirls because of the tons of high quality, well animated fanservice. I dont enjoy Indivisible because even though its from the same studio it lacks one of the major things that made skullgirls a great experience for me, the fanservice.
You seem to be the one getting worked up here.
>>318353102
This actually. They thought they could ride in the wave of "we made skullgirls guys!" and it didn't work.
The same consumers that hype centered business practices has transformed in this day and age are also fickle beasts that will move on when something is more hype and they can latch onto the attention of.
>>318348614
Is zone evewn working with L0 anymore? I thought they just commissioned him for a few odd things just for promotion purposes.
>>318353323
It's a different kind of game. It's story focused with a lot more characters and a world that the team wants to present to players
there isn't as much room for fanservice in that kind of game. they still have it but not as much.
>>318353636
I don't care about your autism until it turns into the ragey REEEEE THEY CHANGED THREE FRAMES OF PANTYSHOTS THEY SHOULD LITERALLY DIE. It's a little silly to get triggered about all that, isn't it?
I hope somebody's collecting screencaps of people saying THIS WILL NEVER BE FUNDED
or IT'LL MAKE IT FOR SURE so we can all enjoy a good round of bootyblasting in a week
>>318353071
I would always play apples to apples and it was hilarious making dirty inappropriate jokes out of innocent cards
Cards against humanity is like apples to apples for unfunny dipshits
>>318353710
The bow and arrows in the game are particularly dumb.
Game doesn't look fun, game asked for too much and the lead animator is a cunt.
I'm not super keen on the gameplay, the cast looks colorful but it doesn't have as much personality as Skullgirls.
I'd rather have a RPG themed fighting game or a Metroidvania, I'm not a fan of the Valkyrie Profile style combat system.
I don't know, I know I can't judge the game from the prototype, but it's so... hollow, you look at these colorful characters and feel nothing.
>>318353618
Is there an echo?
Devs gave away their DLC for free instead of selling it for money.
>>318352172
>>318353791
My bad dude I thought you were the guy telling people they were cancer who should die because they don't care enough about it.
>>318353903
>there isn't as much room for fanservice in that kind of game
Why not? Would it be less of "that kind of game" if Anja was wearing, for example, a bikini?
>>318353978
>look
Why base it on looks?
>>318354071
kek
>>318347562
Dragon's Crown was made on a budget of 1 million and that is way better looking and more interesting gameplay wise that your tumblrite game.
>>318353528
First person shooters have those things. They aren't RPGs. And no, we're not having a dumbass discussion about the nature of RPGs because of 'RPG elements.' I'm not 15. Indivisible is not an RPG.
Trying to pretend it will satisfy RPG fans that are looking for an RPG is the core problem with its design. It's obvious he has no interest in them but couldn't help but kowtow to acknowledging that not everyone likes the same things he does.
>>318354149
Yes, that would look stupid.
Even Skullgirls didn't put characters in bikinis just because.
>>318353937
No one cares what you get worked up over, NeoFAG. You just aren't from here.
>>318347219
Wasn't their first game a colossal failure?
>>318354159
You don't get too much else to work with for a Kickstarter.
>>318353975
And badly animated. Even berserk blunder of the century looks better than the game.
I'm seriously convinced this is being shilled. Threads for this are up every single day since there's not much time left for this game to get funded and they've received a huge increase ever since.
>>318353710
Don't be autistic. It's a simplified art style. Reducing the amount of detail helps in animation.
You just compared a little 2d sprite game's level of realism to Monster Hunter. Let that sink in for a moment. The guy in your picture looks like he's smuggling bee hives in his legs. What's that shit all over his body? Someone in that garbage wouldn't even be able to move.
played the proto, its ok but nothing i would buy on release or even add to my wishlist
found the 'defend drains magic' irritating because i couldnt keep the healer fed in the boss fight, so didnt use it that much
>>318354292
I suppose we just have differing opinions then. Games like Stella Glow have characters like pic related running around, yet they can still portray a serious story just fine.
>>318354250
Over 1 million you sperg and art drawn ages ago
>>318354250
>not fully animated beat em up with 6 stages cost less than a 30 hour Metroidvania RPG
Shocking.
>le tumblar
>>318354313
I'm okay with you thinking I'm not from here if your entrance requirement is being a huge faggot
>>318347219
Literally unfundable
Glad it won't get made. Too tired of literal shills spamming /v/ with the kickstarter everyday. Looked like shit anyway
>>318354198
and most campaigns are even slower in the middle relative to their goal.
>>318354532
/lzg/ creates threads here for marketing and argues with random /v/ spergs about idpol garbage to keep it at the top of the catalog until a mod notices it and deletes the thread.
looks like it might be interesting. i'll buy it out of the steam bargain bin
>>318354291
Leveling up in FPS games means you don't have to go into the turn battles and can just kill enemies on the map?
They have recruitable party members and quests for upgrades? And are largely dungeon crawling?
I don't know if you think Strange Journey is an FPS or what, but it seems like you don't know what an RPG is.
>>318354621
>30 hour Metroidvania RPG
>i likey de bezzwurds mummy!
Try developing some taste, please.
>>318354624
No, the entrance requirement would be you not trying to shame someone on /v/ for liking fanservice.
You have a real difficult problem reading.
>Indivisible's current funding is now higher than Crowdcharts' broken prediction
>>318354473
They put up a playable demo when they launched the crowdfunding campaign, the fuck are you on about?
>>318354673
You're that chap that could never read that graph.
>>318354506
>should've taken a lesson from Guilty Gear Xrd
>>318354819
Non of those are buzzwords
>>318354819
>greentext something I said
>greentext something you said
>random non-sequitor about taste, implying you hate Dragon's Crown
Uh, did you have a stroke?
>>318354890
Yeah, and I didn't really like that either. Not enough to give money for it anyways. That's what "look" at means. It was looked at. Can't make this any easier.
>>318354879
Their projection methods are really simplistic.
They should really into modeling using information they gather from each campaign. But dumb is what you get for free. If you want smart you have to pay.
>>318354701
Pretty sure /lzg/ hasn't made an indivisible thread in weeks, shitposters pretty reliably make them within a couple hours to stir up shit.
>>318353763
I agree. there's no way it would get that much interest with that mediocre art and lazy pitch video.
if they did it like every other kikestarter ie lied in the pitch video with super cool concept art, made huge unreasonable promises, had a goal way lower than what it actually would cost, and had no playable prototype they might be sitting on even more money.
>>318355113
Then this post >>318354473 makes literally no sense.
>>318354879
The main reason for that is that crowdcharts hasn't tracked a single money donation for almost a week.
>>318354805
Again. RPG elements. You stupid child. Is that all it takes for you? If I took Call of Duty and had it pause the game for 5 seconds after every shot, would that be an RPG too? You're "dungeon crawling" in those games too. You advance levels, upgrade equipment and can even get new party members. GASP! What an RPG!
Without going into the history of RPGs as pencil and paper systems that existed to help you play as a role, the core of any game is going to be whatever its main interface is. In the case of Indivisible's combat system, you have high and low attacks, and build meter to use specials. Yeah, that's an "RPG" all right. But yeah, please regal me with more stories about how many other RPG elements you can list before it magically stops being yet another braindead fighter to appeal to Mike Z's terrible lust for frame-focused brawlers and fithers.
>>318355341
I'm not seeing the issue. The prototype isn't indicative of the final product. There's people in this thread even saying that. Nonetheless, I saw the IndieGoGo, played the prototype, and from the look of it it didn't seem fun so I didn't give it my money.
Could've been worded better but there's nothing wrong with the post itself.
>>318355402
>Indivisible and Valkyrie Profile are fighting games
shitposters, everybody
>>318355379
I know, I just wanted to point it out. I find it really amusing.
>>318355402
>I can't give a single reason it's not an RPG, therefore it's not an RPG, trust me
That's not how the world works.
>>318355548
They're neither really. They don't have the depth of interaction RPG fans tend to want nor the speed, spacing or timing that fighting game fans want. They have elements of fighters and elements of RPGs but tend to satisfy neither fanbase. Or just offend one or the other.
>>318354554
It's not about amount of detail. It's about making things right and researching what you're doing.
The one that wouldn't be able to move is the Indivisible one, because the articulations of the armor are all wrong. He could not bend his knees. The guy from monster hunter, on other hand, despite wearing a super fantasy crazy armor, would still be able to move because the armor has proper articulations.
Comparing the two armors with real armor, you can clearly see which one of the two actually based the design on the real thing, instead of trying to guess.
>>318349580
And then when it's crystal clear about how everything's being paid for it ends up being mishandled and shit anyway.
There just is no way with Kickstarter, it's five times worse than early access, and ten times worse than pre-ordering.
>>318354725
This.
Ignoring dumb faggots yelling Tumblr, the game looks like it has potential to do some interesting things and the cast is fairly interesting because they're drawing from so many thingsthough that honestly looks like it's just going to create a clusterfuck with too many characters that mean nothing.
Basically, here's the outcomes:
>Game gets funded, turns out good, people are pleasantly surprised a year or two from now and the game gets pretty popularmaybe becomes the new Undertale
>Game gets funded, turns out to be shit, people who funded it buttblasted, Mike on suicide watch, people laugh.
>Game doesn't get funded, "news" sites complain for a couple weeks, nothing changes from there
None of these options are really that bad aside from the spoilered bit.
>>318355845
Can't really compare a couple of indie devs to the damn team behind MonHun
>>318353627
It's not gonna make it.
>>318355834
Then why is Valkyrie Profile beloved and why is Indivisible going to get funded?
>>318355845
He'd be able to move just fine. Stop being an autistic /v/ shitposter. Jesus. Seeing someone lament over games not being as realistic as Monster Hunter really has to be a new low.
>>318347219
It went up 4% in the last 24 hours. If it continues that pace, it'll be funded.
>>318356087
Tell us all about physics.
>>318347219
Would this game have made it if it was another fanservice fighter?
>>318356042
Why do you say this? The donation rate is rising, and it's nearing the end, only a couple hundred grand left, are you just pretending to be retarded to get my attention?
*please fail please fail
>>318349016
Sure as shit nobody wants a game with gameplay like VP that screams cheap knock off at the top of its lungs.
VP gameplay is fast and fluid and actually has a point to comboing, as well as having interesting stories before joining the party.
In this...
The final fantasy-esq atb system is pointless, comboing serves no function so there's no reason to do anything but spam the heavy attacks, and all the characters there just look like they're there to fill the diversity quota.
It resembles VP, but contains nothing good from it.
>>318356154
the pace will only increase, with the last week hype + that Super best friends contest
http://imgur.com/a/jf1Pj
>>318356232
Dont bother with a prayer. I tried that with thems fighting herds and that didn't work.
>>318356247
>comboing serves no function so there's no reason to do anything but spam the heavy attacks
oh look lies on the internet
also
>nobody
>People still doubting this won't get funded when it's a mere 260k~ away while pace is steadily accelerating into the final push
>Gonna announce Bloodstain qt on Monday for last trick
As someone who didn't like the prototype for multiple reasons I can't deny it will be funded. I denied it back when they didn't do an extension and announced all those guest characters to help shill the game because that was much more believable especially after that terrible start. They are gonna squeeze by in the last day or two and maybe hit a stretch goal if they decide to announce them.
>>318356270
Jesus fuck I wonder how much those kikes paid off SBF
>>318356232
Mike Z is outside your door right now, laughing.
>>318347219
What went wrong is that its a shitty little generic platformer but OMG SO UNIKUE BCOZ WE PUT RPG IN FRANT OF NAME. Completely riding off the skullgirls fame, and skullgirls wasn't all that impressive either.
>>318356178
Well, see, when you're wielding a gigantic chainsword made of monster teeth, there's this thing called "a fulcrum." It's basically like a lock that prevents you from doing cool things. But just use magic and coolness and it turns it off.
It's a shame that a random hurried design of a potential character out of a list of almost a hundred playable characters in a 2d sprite game where everything is drawn frame by frame can't show the same exquisite level of detail and care to realism that Monster Hunter does.
>>318351783
So they're censoring shit and lazy? Fuck off, it's stupid to remove any of the shit.
>>318351476
>fillia/fukua changes a mystery
>literally visible in the post you responded to, as well as cerebella
>>318347383
A-Anon... I think that's called tan... Its what you get when you do things in the sunlight.
>>318356023
>it takes a team to google a couple of references for suits of armor and then draw something based on that.
yea I can't really compare your retard post to the post of an intelligent human.
>>318355402
>Again. RPG elements. You stupid child
Wait a second, you're the retard who literally just said
>>318353309
>but detest that it's a "rpg" with no rpg elements
So what the fuck are you even talking about?
First it has no RPG elements but it's an RPG, but now it's not an RPG but has RPG elements.
>>318356023
Yes I can, because this isn't dependent on budget or anything like this.
Look, I'm a no one and made a quick edit of the armor. Took me 10 minutes and now he is able to move. All I had to do was look to a couple picture of armor.
>>318356496
>almost a hundred playable characters
Why?
>>318356462
>Bloodstain qt on Monday
Is that happening? The Bloodstained people are fucking saints for even dealing with LZ after how much shit MikeZ talked about them.
>>318356462
>steadily accelerating
No. That's not even how that works.
>>318352049
>amazon goddess
>those tits
>those thighs
Checking my privilege super hard right now... it's good
They should of made it a beat em up instead of another RPG on the endless pile of RPGs
>>318356469
dream on retard.
>>318356707
>after how much shit MikeZ talked about them
What did he say?
>>318356693
They should seriously consider hiring you to be their artist. At least you look like you'll actually earn the salary they're paying.
>>318356746
>tits
>(s)
She only has one m8ty
>>318355402
By your logic the entire mainline Shin Megami Tensei series other than 3 and 4 are first person shooters and not RPGs.
>>318350953
I think it's an addiction for many
It's going to be funded. And it's hopefully going to be shit so I can drink some tears.
>>318356861
Confirmed false.
Isn't everything up to this point subject (gameplayin the alpha + character desing) just concept and is subject to change?
>>318356930
If its funded it doesn't matter how shit they actual game is. The backers and shitposters will defend it to the death.
>>318356703
Because when your combat system is "press attack button to attack when it's your turn," you need to flood the game with characters so it seems like there's more to it than there really is.
>>318356906
It does let you buy shit and give yourself the feeling like you're making the world a better place, one potato salad at a time.
>>318356787
He was blaming Bloodstained pretty directly for making 1.5 million seem like a lot of money / using crowdfunding to prove to the publisher the game was viable. This is despite the Bloodstained pitch video stating directly they just wanted the money to prove to the publishers that people were still intetested in Metroidvanias, and the fact that LZ also had publisher backing from 505 Games.
The Bloodstained people still featured Indivisible in an update, and if they're lending Miriam to the project that's even nicer.
>>318356693
maybe you should go and post it in their forums, they are very close to the community there
>>318357018
The shitposters aren't defending the game though. They're the one's against it.
>>318356894
To be fair, they kind of are!
>>318357008
yes, they could suddenly change the game to be about 2 trannies with giant dicks that are permanently fused to each other but have to defeat the 9 dark lords of the solar system and their unique armies.
Doesn't /v/ like video games? Isn't more video games better than less video games?
>>318356787
He said that Bloodstained cost 5 million dollars
>>318356693
Congratulations, you added a week to development time for no reason other than you were being autistic. And it's not even noticeable.
>>318357176
BUT MUH SJWs!!!!!!11
>>318357008
This isn't even an alpha. It's a prototype version that shows off the ideas they've come up with so far and acts as a proof of concept, nothing more.
>>318357176
>Doesn't /v/ like video games?
>>318357208
Is that true? Even if it is how is that bad? Video games cost money.
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM
>>318356693
not him and I agree with you. But you have to take into consideration that the lead artist can't focus or have knowledges on everything.
She had to draw a hundred different characters for this game. And out of the playable characters there are many different armors from different cultures.
She might not have the know-how to distinguish between meaningless armor details or really important functionality-related stuff, so her version ended up not being that great, but it's understandable
Keep in mind that time is money, and the time she'd spend in doing a deeper research, she could spend drawing the next character or animating instead.
Here's a generic oriental armor concept I drew. I know it wouldn't work at all, he can't bend his torso. But the rule of cool and not having more time took precedence over realism
All of that being said the characters do look game and the game is shit so I'm not even sure why I'm playing devil's advocate here.
>>318357176
I wonder who could be behind this post.
Brown and diversity.
Cute girls are only white!
>>318357396
It wasn't that Bloodstained cost 5 million, it was that it cost 5 million but they only asked for 500k. He was saying that they were being dishonest for having a publishing partner, despite the fact that Lab Zero also had a publishing partner.
>>318352213
>why do you caaaaaare
>caaaaaaare
go back to tumblr.
sidenote: why do YOU care? if all that matters is gameplay, cast could all be ayylmaos.
>>318357592
He looks pretty stopped.
>>318357617
gee anon, did you do that in your edgy phase
>>318357176
>Doesn't /v/ like video games?
Welcome to 4chan, or as most of the Internet calls it, Hell.
>>318357617
Mariel didn't draw all of those characters you weirdo.
>>318357617
>a LEAD artist doesn't need to know what she is doing.
yea I'm glad you aren't running any companies.
>>318357801
Do you think they would add 4 playable fanservice oriented characters?
I mean if they're going to have a hundred characters there's no harm in making enough sexy girls to fill up a party.
>>318357801
Is Kampan cute?
>>318357396
The Bloodstained Kickstarter was just an interest check.
>>318357807
They were dishonest because they presented it as if the Kickstarter was their funding (just like most kickstarters do).
Indivisible is being open about both the amount they need and that they have a partner which is probably part of the reason why they are having trouble reaching the goal.
>>318357396
yes
it isn't, /v/ is just retarded.
>>318357807
>500k. He was saying that they were being dishonest for having a publishing partner, despite the fact that Lab Zero also had a publishing partner.
Why are you lying to >>318357396?
He said it was dishonest to hide the fact they had a publisher and that this was just an interest gauge.
>>318357823
Even like 30 years after his death is too soon. ;_;
>>318358037
>part of the reason why they are having trouble reaching the goal.
Except they're having absolutely no trouble at all.
They're going to be fully funded in a day, day after tommorow tops.
>>318358019
Ajna
Thorani
Phoebe
Leilani
>>318356205
It worked before, so yes
>>318357103
Not gonna do that because that would be treating the symptom, not the cause of it. This happens with many designs in the game.
>>318357617
The thing is, like I stated in my first post, this is my personal reason for not funding the game. They are not putting love in each character, researching their shit and trying to make each one special. They are just trying to put out as many characters as they can. That's what it feels like, at least.
I don't understand what the problem with brown characters is. These characters are supposed to be from all over the world and history, it would be weird if an African shaman were white.
>>318358037
Go back and rewatch the pitch video. I GA says he needs the kickstarter to prove to publishers that Metroidvanias are still relevant. 500k was never actually the budget, and it was never presented as such. Likewise, 1.5 million is not the budget to Indivisible, since the publisher is going to contribute a significant amount of Lab Zero can Prove Interest with a successful Indiegogo. The only difference is the percentages, and IGA didn't explicitly name his publisher.
>>318358186
>They're going to be fully funded in a day, day after tommorow tops.
That's an awful lot of optimism you got there.
>>318347685
>They were honest and transparent with us
Yes that's somewhat true, in what was basically a fine-print part all you fucking idiots scrolled over, they reveal the money is mostly to grossly overpay their employees and fun a new office, including furnishings.
oh, and maybe make a game, hehe :)
>>318357801
Anime = Japanese = not white.
>>318358212
Only thorani is even remotely fanservice oriented out of those girls you listed.
Im talking valentine tier at the least.
>>318347685
>>318347750
>>318347821
>they shouldn't have released a prototype
so you're telling me that having fuck all to show other than empty promises and screenshots of concept art would of been better? rather than being the few crowd funding campaigns to openly show what they have to offer people. because u know, that's worked out wonderfully for other projects...such as mighty number 9, we got nice looking concept shots then when the game came out it looked like garbage.
releasing a decent playable demo that's polished shows how much they give a shit compared to other "please give us your money and we may come out wit what you were hoping" projects.
its no lab zeros fault that people don't know what a fucking demo is and cant read that its just proof of concept.
and before anyone calls me out, i haven't even donated anything to indivisiblenever again since mighty number 9
>>318358410
Then you wouldn't mind showing us where they said that, right?
>>318358323
>They are not putting love in each character, researching their shit and trying to make each one special. They are just trying to put out as many characters as they can.
You hit the nail on the head anon.
I sure am excited to play a game where I know who all the characters I'll recruit are 2 years before it comes out!!!
One of the things I loved about Valkyrie Profile was you didn't know who the the next Einherjar would be.
>>318358186
They had to take an extension and are only going to get funded because of a lot of community pushes.
That is having trouble getting funded.
>>318358323
>They are not putting love in each character, researching their shit and trying to make each one special
Except they are, have you paid attention to the weapons? And backstories? Not every single one is as detailed, but they have to rush them out now, the original plan was one reveal per 100k, which meant they'd have time to fully show them off, they're doing it at 50K and the rate has been pretty killer for that exact amount.
They aren't even doing that fast enough and it's still rushed, they had shit planning when it came to time, and that's completely their fault, but that doesn't mean they don't care about the characters.
>>318358490
not every game needs skullgirls tier fanservice
>wake up
>it's at 83%
How do we stop this?
>>318358531
>>so you're telling me that having fuck all to show other than empty promises and screenshots of concept art would of been better?
Yes.
People are stupid. People are REALLY stupid.
They would react better to an imagined version of the game. The prototype was rough as guts, and people, being stupid, thought it was a beta version. It only hurt the campaign.
>>318352374
I thought it was bitchy elitist edge lords?
>>318358034
Eh. It's slightly better than her concept art, but I wouldn't call her kawaii uguu~.
>>318347219
It came out of nowhere
No Hype
Little to no presence
>>318358410
>30% below national average
>overpay
oh look lies on the internet
>>318358098
They never hid that there was a publisher, they just didn't name them. And "if you can raise X, we will give you Y" is the exact same thing Indivisible is doing. If Mike Z had limited his comments to "I don't like that they didn't tell us the publisher's name" instead of accusing them of a number of other things, including causing the difficulties of Indivisible's initial campaign, we would be having a different conversation.
>>318358675
all im asking for is 4 characters out of 100 to be skullgirls tier though.
>>318358531
If mighty number 9 had shown the prototype they eventually made no one would have believed in their efforts.
Reality derails the hype, people like to dream more than they like to see results.
I want this game to fail, I want this studio to crumble. I want everyone working there to be forced into a life of financial stress.
These people deserve to suffer for what they've done.
>>318358583
literally the indiekickgoer, fucktard.
>>318358676
We get #GamerGate to help us with our plight.
They'll know what to do.
You guys realize no matter what, they'll get a big anonymous donation from some unknown company at the heels of the final hours, right?
It's getting funded, it would be massive egg in Lab Zeros face that after all their posturing, they don't make it.
>>318358791
the actual number of playable characters is closer to 25.
what about shantae, does she count?
>>318358661
Read the full post.
>That's what it feels like, at least.
Even if they are, doesn't feel like so for reasons I already posted. The dragon armor dude is the worst example but that doesn't mean the other designs aren't as souless.
>>318358706
like i said though, that isnt lab zero's fault. thats people being dense as shit because theyv been conditioned from betas and early access shit removing the concept of a demo completely.
no one can blame lab zero for trying
>>318357883
commissioner wanted more spikes and more metal things in general. He was much more lightweight in the beggining
>>318357972
You can't know everything at the same time. If I asked you about the best Lovecraft short story, the best american football tactic, and then to explain how a SpaceX rocket lands you wouldn't be able to give me specifics on all 3 of those.
Same thing happens when an artist is asked to draw armors from almost every culture out there. Being able to grasp how everything works to the smallest detail isn't easy. What some take as common sense (such as how plate armor articulation works) isn't for others. Like he said, she's an ammateur artist, it's only normal stuff like that gets skipped over
Again, not saying I like the designs, just seeing it from her prespective.
>>318358323
Yeah it does feel like a rushed project. These characters look less appealing/inspired than discarded SG concepts.
>>318358859
>wake up
>600% funded
>>318358818
>These people deserve to suffer for what they've done.
Did they kill your dad and rape your mom or something?
>>318358661
The designs are crappy and poorly thought out. Writing fanfic tier backstories doesn't mean you put thought into the design, and a lot of the nonsense physical attributes of the weapons show that.
Why don't they just not put so much effort into the animation?
Is it really worth it to have a few extra frames?
>>318358859
Please, those useless faggots would end up funding them to look progressive and diverse
>>318358853
>spending an industry standard amount of money per man-month of work
>overpay
oh look you're still lying on the internet.
>>318358853
>average spending rate
>grossly overpaying
Yeah, fuck off. Also, it says nothing about a new office so fuck off harder.
>>318358905
But you dont get her or any of the extra characters until the end of the game. Thats far to late for me.
4 out of 25 still isn''t to much.
>>318358796
were people not impressed with the prototype? i kinda was, it was like something you would expect a year or 2 after successful funding for other projects if that. it didnt get me dreaming of what it could become but i was hella interested in where it would go/what it could become
>>318358853
That isnt much at all.
>>318359030
I don't know what to tell you man, they seem generally focused on making characters part of the world and story, not to personally cater to your dick.
>>318358926
I'll contact them right now.
>>318347219
I dunno you weeaboo faggots fucked up and invested in something that sucks shit? And then it didn't happen?
>My fucking face when this is going to get funded and nothing you butthurt children can do
What a wild ride though.
I don't keep up with this stuff, but can you please tell me they don't get a single penny if they don't reach the goal?
>>318359068
Indivisible?
No. The gameplay mix is boring, and adding knockups isn't going to fix that.
No way it'll be worse than MN9 though.
>>318358919
But you'd do it way better, right? And in the same time frame too. Quite admirable of you.
>>318359207
Women should be shot in the street like the degenerate hussies they are.
>>318359240
>but can you please tell me they don't get a single penny if they don't reach the goal?
They don't get a single penny if they don't reach the goal.
Not being a smartass here either, it says so in the page.
>>318359158
>they seem generally focused on making characters part of the world and story, not to personally cater to your dick.
But they can do both. Just make the breasts a little bigger and add some titty jiggle and bam, they're done.
>>318359240
1.go here https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indivisible-rpg-from-the-creators-of-skullgirls
2. Put your cursor over the question mark (?) under the goal number
3. Read nigga
>>318359384
No one cares about your dick.
>>318347219
>Incredibly dull game that will likely be a few hours long
>$1.5Million just because it appeals to SJWs that won't even play it
L M F A O
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>>318359481
I do though. Why dont you?
>>318359487
What?
>>318359207
>this is going to get funded
I highly doubt that. And I'm not saying that to spite you, I'm saying that because hope is looking rather bleak for this project.
>>318347219
>rpg with a qt brown girl as the protag
Am I missing something? Why isn't /v/ all over this game's dick?
>>318359740
it just gained 3k in the last hour
in the middle of the night on a sunday
>>318358921
>If I asked you about the best Lovecraft short story, the best american football tactic, and then to explain how a SpaceX rocket lands you wouldn't be able to give me specifics on all 3 of those
Damn right because I'm not a literature major, a football coach and a rocket engineer which are 3 DIFFERENT fields. And none of that shit applies to being a fucking Lead artist so your argument is garbage.
>Same thing happens when an artist is asked to draw armors from almost every culture out there
WRONG. It is not the same thing. Your job as LEAD fucking artist is to know whatever the fuck it is you're drawing. So if you're asked to draw European armor. You google that shit and draw something based on that. If you're asked to draw Samurai armor. You do the same thing.
>Again, not saying I like the designs, just seeing it from her prespective.
Wrong. I'M seeing it from her perspective and she's incompetent and definitely not qualified to be a LEAD artist. This isn't grade school where you can draw what the fuck ever without any research and get praised for it. She should stop calling herself a lead artist if this is how she works.
>>318359740
Unless some big donor comes out of nowhere I don't see how they can get $250,000 in 5 days
>>318359867
Because muh SJWs, man.
>>318359878
>timezones
Clapistan has multiple of them and still doesn't understand how they work.
>>318359904
See
>>318359878
Shilling on /v/ is effective as fuck.
>>318359904
they've gotten 40k in a day
>>318359958
Gasp!
No seriously, why does /v/ shit on this game every chance it gets? What'd they do, bitch and moan that she was white originally or something? Because I honestly like the change if they did.
>>318360053
Honestly, if the guys who hated it didn't flood the thread with posts accusing people of being shills and just ignored it, the thread would end up on page 10 in like 30 minutes. Thanks to them the thread stays on page 1.
>>318352441
If you're gonna get triggered that easily, you shouldn't be here.
I would force Razmi to flash me her feet before I donate
>>318360220
>why does /v/ shit on this game every chance it gets?
I just told you. That little thing is seriously the reason of most of the shitposting around here.
I am not kidding.
>>318358034
What a qt3.14, would ravage after taking her to the amusement park.
>>318360220
Its because the dev went from DoA to super serial diversity storytellers
So drastic a shift tends to make people think SJW's are afoot.
>>318359904
Before the extension they were making 100,000 dollars a day due to the first end rush. That was cut short though, but 100,000 a day again is definitely doable, but with 5 days they really only need about 50,000 a day.
>>318360302
The lead artist draws awful feet.
Fucking fat ankles. Can't stand that shit.
>>318359904
Crowdfunding campaigns tend to follow a U-shaped curve, where most of the money is made in the first few amd last few days of the campaign. For example, Bloodstained raised about half it's total budget in the first and last two days, and a million dollars in the final day.
Obviously Indivisible is no Bloodstained, but if the last day push happens they will make it over the limit.
>>318360347
>>318360412
Oh, is that all? Fucking Hell, /v/.
Next you'll tell me that From is full of SJWs because they stopped making Armored Core games.Wait. Holy shit.
>>318360430
Damn, these donors have some deep pockets.
>>318360347
If /v/ hates the game, why are multiple threads made daily by posters desperately defending it and begging for money? Seems kinda pointless, no?
>>318360027
10:30 pst
11:30 mountain
12:30 central
1:30 eastern
are you honestly telling me that america is not the biggest source of funding for an american based project, and that 10:30-1:30 sunday night are not dead-as-fuck timezones for that country?
>>318360567
Bloodstained has a cute protagonist and people still love Ika for Shanoa.
Indivisible has nothing.
>>318360581
False-flagging IS a thing, anon.
>>318360220
Because it's shilled here literally every single day, and the devs set out on some campaign where they started posting all over social media being like "HEY FEMINISTS, CHECK OUT OUR GAME INDIVISIBLE, THE LEAD CHARACTER IS A STRONG, BROWN FEMALE! SUPPORT OUR GAME! DONATE TOWARDS OUR GAME!" and apparently that pissed people off.
>>318360567
Ah, I see. That actually makes sense. If this game gets funded /v/ will lose its shit.
>>318360220
I dislike Lab Zero enough to shitpost their threads, but not enough to actually want them to fail. Really I just want them to get humbled a little, but I don't want them to disband or not be able to make their game.
>>318358323
>They are not putting love in each character, researching their shit and trying to make each one special. They are just trying to put out as many characters as they can.
>That's what it feels like, at least.
I totally get that. It's not really about whether the armor is realistic or not, it's just getting that feeling that someone put a lot of love and effort into a character design.
You gave that example from Monster Hunter. That was just one of many random ass sets of armor that only a couple of people will make and it's not even really featured in any promotional art, yet the detail on just the sketch of it looks like someone really cared about what they were doing. At the very least, it could've been one guy who was really passionate about designing armor and you can feel that passion in the design.
With the Indivisible designs, you don't get that feeling, not with all of them. You get the feeling that it was like "Quick! Make a medieval knight kinda guy!" "Okay I made a dude in random armor but he has a dragon coiled around him!". Personally, the one that broke it for me was FIRMLY GRASP IT, because I refuse to believe that such a terrible design came out of someone who even remotely gave a shit about what they were doing. How do you even fuck up the design for "voodoo zombie man"?
Each character is a character with a backstory, but functionally you assign them as single button attacks so they're as expendable as any RPG weapon. It feels like they're designed to just be "oh look at this cool sword you can use, we have so many!" while I would instead prefer if they, I dunno, MADE A MAIN CHARACTER THAT DOESN'T LOOK SO BLAND.
>>318358661
>Not every single one is as detailed, but they have to rush them out now
I also understand that, but that's the problem. They have to rush it now. They have to rush it because those initial designs weren't very good. The recent ones are pretty good but they're rushed. Too little, too late.
>>318357820
Tumblr, wh? Nice meme.
Characters can be whatever, but I don't get mad when a game features a character roster that isn't based on what I want to fuck, I can't believe how badly you fags need games to double as your girlfriends sometimes
>>318360581
>desperately defending it and begging for money
"what went wrong?" is a shitpost trying to bait fans into arguing about the game
shitposters are making the threads
if you believe these are shill threads then you are a tool.
>>318360567
I bet if this game gets funded every big KS we see after this will have a "false deadline" like this one did just so they can get two last day pushes.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/607591819/the-vagrant/description
Reminder we could have had a Not-Vanillaware game, on the PC for $30k, but no one funded it.
Indivisible has no excuse asking for so much money.
>>318360840
All Indiegogo campaigns can get an extension if they reach 60% of their initial goal 3 business days before their initial deadline. Kickstarter does not allow any extensions.
>>318360687
It's shilled here every day because /v/ has become a singularity of shitposting about it and Fallout 4. This is just the first thread I've felt like asking about it in because all I've seen on it is
>es jay dubyahs
>>318360743
Honestly? That's a fair enough reason.
>>318360664
Look at this thread, there are people in here legitimately defending and arguing for the game. Even if there is false-flagging, and I've seen there is, posters are clearly shilling it. So why? If /v/ hates it and da sjw menace or whatever, why annoy and piss everyone off with constant shilling? Move on. They're not going to get any money from /v/. On top of that, /v/ is CLEARLY not the audience for the game, mikez seems to have implied that, so again why.
>>318361006
>why annoy and piss everyone off with constant shilling?
It's false-flagging shitposters, you dense fuck.
>>318360784
Thanks for putting into words what I failed to communicate.
That's exactly what I meant.
>>318360909
You can still get a slime slayer https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tookindstudio/pankapu-the-dreamkeeper as some anon shilled in a prior "advertise for Indivisible" thread.
it's over, the shills won. it's gotten from 200k to 240k in a day and that pace is bound to continue.
the only way for it to fail at this point is if some people who donated a lot pull a bait-and-switch or if someone on the dev team causes a controversy and a ton of people start unfunding. actually, if someone really wanted this to fail, maybe they could fake something like mike z acting racist and post it all over tumblr. that's their target audience after all.
>>318360840
Indiegogo nigga.
They give extensions.
>>318347685
Playing devil's advocate on this, I think the biggest problem is that people just DON'T see beta/unfinished stuff as anything other than a demo.
The fucking Rainbow Six Siege "beta" is for a game coming out not even three days later. It's a fucking demo. Both the industry and the consumers don't see betas as work-in-progresses, they seem them as examples of how the game plays. They also fail to realize that most of the time, betas are when most of the game design is set in stone and committed to.
All this really hurts a prototype because it ISN'T a beta. It's a proof of concept. And as far as I know, MANY new IPs in the past and present have had prototypes and proof-of-concept versions that were rudimentary compared to their own. And in the same case, some have had features cut out because they hurt the game more than add to it.
If anything there's plenty of games that needed more time to cook, per se, as they work out whether or not the systems implemented are legitimately fun before needing to practically redesign the whole game to do so. I still think from what I've seen that Indivisible needs to undergo that process, but I'll admit that even if I do want it fail, if it succeeds I don't expect it to play as simply as the prototype does.
>>318361165
Good, fuck you, I was looking forward to the game. Now not only we I get that but also all the porn to follow.
>>318354826
I'm shaming the tardrage more than the fanservice per se, but that's pretty pathetic, too.
>>318361093
Every single one of them!
>>318360784
I think a huge part of it is the art. Compare the art for the first few incarnations to all the rest, and it's clear the public was never supposed to see those drawings. They look like the "HD" Ace Attorney sprites, which were ugly as sin and originally intended to be used as a basis for drawing sprites. If you compare the HD sprites to official art of the same character in the same pose, the difference is staggering, and I think the same thing happened here.
>>318351346
>Skirt is circular in every instance except the edited censor which drastically changes the design
>"We made the change to make it more consistent and fit our artistic goals"
>>318361006
>there are actually people defending and arguing for the game
No shit, over 19,000 people have donated money towards it. Obviously someone out there actually thinks it looks good.
>shilling
Being interested in a game isn't shilling, that buzzword is getting dangerously close to "mary sue" tiers of uselessness.
>>318361006
>On top of that, /v/ is CLEARLY not the audience for the game
/v/ is not one person. Lots of people here are interested in the game and you're only helping the campaign by talking about it instead of just ignoring it, but we all know when people hate things they can't help but talk about them.
>>318358920
it totally is their fault. this is part of market research and they did that part poorly. they should have known that releasing something not complete could backfire. when you design a game you're constantly reminded that people are stupid and you hve to design around their stupidity, if you dont, its your fault as a designer for failing to do that, not people's fault that they couldnt understand your game. the same applies here for their campaign
Is the autistic boomerang guy gonna be in?
>>318361159
I will probably back this.
Shame they couldnt have both got funded.
>>318361165
No shit, /v/ it will get funded.
>He /v/ lets keep drawing attention to a game that wont reach it's funding goal, becuase we dont want to get it funded that much.
These threads are started by shills and the mentally retarded. Mostly shills.
>>318361725
Autistic boomerang is in everything.
You're going to have to destroy the Korean economy to keep him out.
>>318347685
If they operated in a city with even a quarter less of the living expenses of where the majority of them and the headquarters are located at, Beverly Hills, I would imagine that they wouldn't have had to ask for $1.5 Million. That's really what set the goal line so high in the first place, they refuse to relocate to somewhere that's actually within a reasonable budget and they believed that their one past success would actually give them enough renown to get others to maintain their celebrity living standards
>>318361725
no, and that's why it's doomed to fail, their latest attempt to get money is having the tbfp audience donate because Zubaz is getting in
>>318348626
>He thinks the problems people were having with the prototype was the graphics being bad and not the gameplay being bad
>>318358987
Nigger you ARE one of those useless faggots by virtue of posting on the same board, according to the rest of the internet and the law of generalization
>>318361779
Their contractors live all over the place, and their employees are receiving below market wages.
It would be cheaper to make in Poland, which is why Polish developers should be underbidding overpriced American labor in the scamstarter market.
>>318360909
It is such a sad feeling looking at a failed crowdfunding campaign you would have donated to at the time, but also knowing you would never have made a difference anyway.
>>318360784
For some reason this doesn't happen with bro quest.
Every character despite being a trope feels unique and cool. You want to be in an adventure with all of them and you can instantly recognize what they were based on.Rank File the best
>>318361357
When you join a discussion with the intent of getting someone interested in a commercial product or going out of your way to argue with naysayers you are shilling by the literal definition of the word, dipshit.
I challenge you to find me an archive of one fucking thread on Indivisible were people actually had an actual discussion about the game here.Considering the hundreds of threads on this topic are nothing but shitposting and shilling, I seriously doubt anybody would, in good faith, think they're going to have anything resembling a decent conversation here.
>>318362084
there is literally nothing in human history less likely to get made than bro quest.
>>318362246
True, but still.
>>318362246
Cirno Racing.
>>318362153
>where's the skullgirls money
>they'll just take what they got so far and make a smaller game
>CENSORSHIP SJWS
i wonder how such quality /v/ posts have prevented actual discussion from taking place
>>318361919
below market wages only if you compare theirs with those working positions outside of the same conditions. Everybody knows programmers make a fuckton more if they work in a tech industry instead of vidya, and everybody knows that programmers are going to make even more if they work in a bigass tech city instead of one that operates more on acting entertainment. There's also the fact to consider that the developers don't make money like Nintendo or EA make since they only have one product out that they barely profit off, which is why they're crossing fingers for crowdfunding. If you compared Lab Zero to some other indie dev team with similar sales and fees numbers then they'd be about the same.
>>318362084
okay
I've never heard of this bro quest before
every single one of those designs are infinitely more interesting than ANY of the incarnations in Indivisible
They should scrap all them and get whoever made these to make all new incarnations for them.
>>318359290
He never implied that at all. Stop acting like a dumbass.
>>318353532
>Skybound
Does that have invincible? Tell me!
25 characters.
8 cameo characters from popular games.
Demo on PS4.
MUH DIVERSITY CAST and SJW pandering.
Shilling everywhere.
20 days extension.
Still not funded and needed 50k per day now.
Fucking hell, nobody wants this game, accept it already.
>>318362393
It is far more likely that another doujin circle sees that idea and picks it up, there are touhou fan games across almost every genre.
>>318362084
The Kabuto Samurai and Dwarf Mechanic look cool. Everything else is meh.
>>318362476
>I've never heard of this bro quest before
hownew.ru
>>318362648
>MUH DIVERSITY CAST and SJW pandering.
Stopped reading.
>>318354506
fuck what happens after that webm cuts
btw this game is gonna make it. Last day pushes are always extremely surprising and the Internet at large won't let a project like this fail.
Honestly, I'm just looking forward for the next few months where these threads will still exist but the shitposting will be even bigger.
>>318362464
they used wage values from within the gaming industry.
>>318347219
i was going to donate to this game, (i donated 100 dollars for Skullgirls at Evo) but all the shilling this game got really bugged me so I decided not to.
>>318361723
>dont bother trying ever because your effort will be wasted
wow, great mentality
also
>releasing something not complete
you mean how it was labeled? how it was literally called the prototype and how demos (short for demonstration, as in to show off your ideas) are somehow a bad thing. no one said it was complete, ever.
>>318362750
>Last day pushes
It is already failed m8, do not forget about extension.
>>318362648
ants etc.
>>318361919
>>318362464
>>318362756
>"Guys we're making less money than EA and Activision even though all we made is Skullgirls! We deserve more money, donate now so we can buy more dead hookers!"
>>318362648
>8 cameo characters from popular games.
Did they always plan on having all these cameo characters, so their cost is included in the budget, or are they just going to reduce the amount of animation for all the other incarnations to fit these guys in?
The sad thing is that even if this somehow gets funded, it doesn't look like it'll be that successful a game, I don't think it'll be able to make back production costs
>>318362558
>Does that have invincible? Tell me!
I don't think so, pretty sure Skybound just publishes the game. They do sell a TWD addon deck for the game, but nothing Invincible, sorry.
>Breeze Grigas 2 hours ago
>Has anyone tried hitting up Anita? Female, dark-skinned protagonist with integrity seems like something she and her crowd would be very into supporting, maybe?
Haha, L0 fans on suicide watch.
>>318362648
1.5 million is a large sum to fund, anon.
The fact that 1.2 million dollars came from 19,700 people to make it happen means people want it to happen. On the flipside, 14,749 people wanted Shovel Knight and that was a drastically lower amount of funding to meet.
>>318363010
why? do you think there aren't people who said "it looks interesting but i'd rather wait til it comes out to buy it"?
>>318362880
Nope, all projects get huge huge pushes on their last 2 days. The amount of donations they get in the last 2 days is pretty close to the amount of donations they get initially. Especially considering this one is relatively close to being funded.
>>318347219
The only reason people play skullgirls is to jack off to the cartoon girls
The only audience Lab Zero ever had were the people who want to jack off to cartoon girls
Indivisible and Lab Zero are trying to get rid of the people who only play to jack off to cartoon girls by using a bunch of bland, ugly, and uninteresting designs and getting rid of the tits and ass almost altogether
This means that the people cannot jack off to cartoon girls with Indivisible except for short-haired Korra and therefore have no reason to play it
If they have no reason to play it they lose the single greatest reason to buy it
>>318363202
It is ALREADY FAILED, no last push happened at real end date.
>>318363329
No one cares that you only play games to fap, you fag.
>>318363349
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure the extension came a few days before the real end date, no?
>>318363173
I think there isn't enough people that said that, this is a niche type game, skullgirls didn't sell the best and the market for fighting games is infinitely bigger than games inspired by an obscure-ish ps1 game
>>318363349
This was their "push" around the end date.
>>318363443
>extension came
Not the real goal. So it is failed, no BIG PUSH AT THE END WILL SAVE IT, it failed once, it will fail a second time.
>>318363349
Lookat the curve of the Crowdcharts graph before the extension. There was absolutely a push during that period. The only question of whether there will be two pushes, or if the extension "exhausted" every donor who would have otherwise contributed to the final push.
It is possible to make a blander protagonist?
>it fails funding
>it gets funding
>it flops upon release
>it gets cancelled
>it's actually successful
All these options end up in shitposting. And it will be glorious my anons.
>>318363582
>48k
And they need minimum 50k per day now. Just not possible.
>>318363349
You do realize the extension happened before three days left pre extension right? The momentum immediately slowed to a crawl once that happened since there was more breathing room/calm of having over 3 weeks left.
>>318347219
This game shouldnt have pandered to the sjw crowd and set its goal very high if it wanted minimal issues with the funding. Im glad I dont support it.
How do making games actually work
By yourself i mean
Obviously you need to spend time making the artwork, build the program on whatever program you decide to choose
and other stuff
but do you really need a lot of money for it, if time constraints isnt an issue
>>318363737
>since there was more breathing
Again. they need minimum 50k now, not possible already.
It was like only 33k the last day.
>>318363751
That's not by the devs, you fucking idiot.
>>318363349
1. The extension came days before the real end date.
2. The last push usually happens in the last 2 days.
3. Last pushes are bigger if the project is actually closer to being funded, which it totally is right now.
>>318363791
Not really, like outside of buying programs, licenses and maybe assets if you want, it just takes time which is why they want money to pay for living expenses
>>318363865
>last 2 days.
And ~160k left in best case scenario.
Not possible.
>>318363648
I don't see anything bland about her.
>>318362750
I'm looking forward to the porn.
>>318363558
JRPGs are a massively bigger market than fighters
and pretty much every crowdfunded game has sold dramatically more copies on release than their preorders through crowdfunding. Shovel Knight had 14,000 backers but has sold over 750k by this point.
>>318363827
>50k per day
Again, this assumes a linear funding curve. If the funding curve is instead accelerating into another end-of-campaign push, this is not a problem.
I haven't looked closely enough at the day-to-day funding amounts, so I don't know if it is actually accelerating, and if a second "push" will happen. But it certainly not impossible.
>>318363931
Go watch the movies. They are terrible but berserk.
>>318363847
>sjw will defend this
Like I said, sjw dont play the games, so pandering to that crowd didnt make sense.
>>318363973
I think you underestimate last pushes. We'll see soon. I'm pretty sure I'm right though.
>>318363329
I feel like you think this, but you don't realize that the most well-known artists for the company have a reputation for drawing sexy ladies.
One of them is explicitly a porn creator before this, in fact.
If they wanted to shirk this reputation, then they would not have those artists on the team. Yes, you could make a case for the ones closest to the company, but keeping ZONE on? C'mon.
They don't want to make a game purely for fap material, but you'd be retarded to think they wouldn't have sexy characters with this game either. Most of the incarnations are a few modifications (and there will be modifications) away from having a bit more sexiness and character in them. I mean, it doesn't take much. Razmi gets a ton of fanart and she's literally just an apathetic girl with a tiger pelt that, fanart being true, she keeps on even during sex.
>>318363827
>the last day
anon. Last day never happened. Nor the 2nd to last day. You know the biggest moments of a crowdfund. Extension happened way before that cutting off the momentum short so it will actually happen this time since no more extension interruption. Last 48 hours of Skullgirls made way more then 50k and this has way more backers now.
>>318364108
>I think you underestimate last pushes
See this >>318363582
>>318363827
do you not see the 84,000 dollar day there? it's pretty clearly a number that is greater than 50k.
>>318364104
But they're not pandering to them.
>>318364174
That was days before the actual end date AND the project wasn't nearly as close to being realistically funded as it is now.
>>318364128
>Skullgirls
Different story, not even comparable.
>>318364060
It made more yesterday than it did the day before, and it's making even more today.
>>318364174
>84,000 dollars
>that wasn't even the final day before the deadline
yeah, you aren't helping your case.
>>318364104
Thank god they're not pandering to them.
Either that or we're blind to the machinations of the Wiccans and the Inuit powers that control the gaming market share.
>>318362648
>Battle Chasers.
Why not get Usagi Yojimbro or Conan while they're at it? That's just kind of out of left field.
>>318364178
>84,000 dollar day there?
1 day, and other days not even 50k.
And you need 50k from today at minimum, but it still gets less, only 20-30k.
>>318363791
Assuming you have infinite time (and by that I mean another job that allows you to have infinite time) then game development is only as expensive as your vision. If you can do something yourself "for free" (because your other job is paying for it) then it is obviously very cheap. The minute you have to pay somebody to do something for you, the expense balloons exponentially. Or, worse, if your rent is coming up soon and you're "getting paid" by taking a loan against the profit of the game you have yet to finish or release.
>>318364348
Already got more than 30k today.
>>318364268
>Not Skullgirls
Your right.This is more favorable for Indivisible because more backers involved thanks to the wider demographic due to the guest character shilling and YT personalities
>>318364348
>And you need 50k from today at minimum
they need 50k on average you ignorant retard, that's completely different from "at minimum"
and the donation pace slowed because an extra 20 days was added to the deadline.
>>318363791
If your willing to make the game yourself on your own time, its all good
Keep in mind, making things faster and having a group help you, means needing to pay them
They arent just gonna wait for sales of the game to pay them off
>>318364482
I'm looking every day at funds.
It was.
~27k
~33k
~10k for 6 hours today (and stopped at 1 moment)
Not gonna funded.
>>318364110
>If they wanted to shirk this reputation, then they would not have those artists on the team.
Conversions are better than expulsions. Implying that certain people have "seen the light" or at least can be held on their leashes is much more impressive than simply replacing "problematic" members.
>>318364597
Look at every Kickstarter out there. The last 2 days bring nearly as much money as the first 2 days. Look it up. Now look at how much money they got on the first 2 days and do the math.
>>318364197
>>318364279
>Not pandering to them
>shitskins and sandskins left and right with no context for it and whites practically non existent
Fucking shills.
>>318363073
Fucking dropped!
Thanks for the heads up.
>>318364504
>implying they will get 100k spike just because SJW miracles
>>318364706
>with no context for it
It's like you have no idea what the basic premise of the game is.
>>318364704
Yes, very believable.
And why they failed original end date?
>>318364781
>basic premise
>South Asia
>No Slavs
>Native Americans
>Aztecs
Wow. BRAVO L0!
>>318364801
All you have to do is look it up. This is literally what happens. Also, the original end date never happened.
>>318364049
Assuming full price sales, minus the copies from the crowdfunding campaign that's about $1.5M in revenue from Steam (before Valve's cut) and $1.2M from Kickstarter (before KS's cut).
>>318364727
the numbers are probably gonna be something like 40, 40, 50, 70, 70
>>318364886
>REALITY ISN'T REAL WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR ME
not him but you're not making yourself look good at this point
>>318364781
>says its based on SEA
>but lolno we globetrekkers now
>>318364801
Because they needed more time to get people to even notice the game. At the start nobody was even talking about it, but then slowly but surely people started talking about it more and more and here we are with it just about funded.
>>318364930
????
Doubt it'll break 90% funded
>>318364918
So 270k and they need 260k.
Nope, not happening.
Will be 35, 35, 45, 46, 90 at best.
>>318364997
yeah you're pretty delusional to be honest
>>318364860
Wow, you really don't have any idea.
>>318365078
they made more than 35k today, you fucking moron.
>>318364860
>>318364953
lawls.
>>318365114
Well, enlighten us shill.
>>318364706
>no context for it
There is context for it. They are placed in areas that are based on their own cultures, the main theme being Southeast Asia as that is where Ajna is from. She's on a globe-trekking quest. She is going to explore a lot of various areas, and this was mentioned on day one.
>>318364104
She are more like bullies. They'll call you a lot of names and try to make trouble for you but doing what they say is worse, it'll either end up being fruitless and humiliating or nothing of benefit will happen to you and the bullies will just laugh how they made you do something. It's all to their own ego.
Bet every failed fame sjws just clap their hands ad moveon lik it was nothing.
>>318365216
>incarnates are heroes from all over the world
So hard to understand.
>>318365258
>She is going to explore a lot of various areas
Just not with WHITE PEOPLE, amirite guys?
>>318364897
This one is pretty much suicide watch.
>>318365189
look at
>>318351840
>>318352326
24 hours apart
38,000 dollars difference
38,000 > 35,000
now end your worthless life.
The rage.
The salt.
Everything is so delicious. Perfect seasoning for when the game gets funded.
>>318365309
>all over the world
Just not the WHITE WORLD.
>>318365369
198-170=38
SJW MATH KEK!
>>318365319
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