>only worthwhile game on the PS4 was Bloodborne
>now it's shaping up to be almost as good as the PS2 in terms of game library with all the new announcements
Damn. When did things go so right for Sony?
>Nintendo lost
People have been saying the PS4 will get better ever since their pre-launch e3.
It never did.
Half those games won't even be translated.
Sony always wins baby.
>>318311497
>Remasters
Sony® is literally saving the game industry!!!
>>318311497
>now it's shaping up to be almost as good as the PS2 in terms of game library with all the new announcements
give me 10 games from that pic that are better than these
>>318311497
Very dumb question: is that pic fanmade?
I say this only because Squeenix hasn't said anything about a PS4 version of Dissidia (even though it's clear like the sun they're working on one).
>>318312997
They're not out yet. How am I supposed to know? And I said "almost". It's already looking a lot better than the PS3 at least. It probably won't have an equal or stronger library compared to the PS2, but it will get close.
>>318313240
Of course it is.
>>318313240
it definitely isnt an official list seeing as they havent announced a new god of war game
>>318313443
how do you its almost as good as the PS2 then?
>>318311497
>Quantic Dream collection
You couldn't think of, I don't know, literally any other game?
>>318311497
>almost as good as the PS2
When will the marketers leave?
>>318311497
>all those ports
How sad.
>now it's shaping up to be almost as good as the PS2 in terms of game library
It's actually shaping up to be almost as good as the PS3, because they have the same fucking library.
>>318313679
This.
Like, i'm costantly baffled about the moltitude of faggots that not just like David Cage's "products" (dunno how to call them, certainly not games), but worship them as the holy grail of gaming or some shit.
I grew up as a Sonyfag starting from the first PS and even i find this revolting.
>>318313917
your point?
>>318313964
I feel this, but on a larger scale with consoles. I don't see why people obsess over WiiUs and Xbox's and PS4s when all they have are weaker versions of things you can get on the PC.
It's surreal.
>>318311497
>Idolmaster
Yea right.
>>318312997
Fuck REKT.
The perfect lineup. I had no idea those all came out in the same period.
>>318314187
After getting a PS4 I finally get this image. He bought all his games digitally, he just couldn't resist all those amazing discounts.
>>318311497
Call me when even half those games are actually released, and then I might think about buying a PS4.
>>318314187
daily reminder
pc: $2000
games: 0
>>318314604
>no games
This meme was never funny broseph.
>>318313647
>>318313793
I said "shaping up", you niggers. It's not almost as good as the PS2 yet, but I compared this list of PS2 exclusives to all the new announcements and it's looking pretty similar to me. Lots of JRPGs, new IPs and stuff.
Why can't Nintendo sell 35 million consoles? It just isn't fair.
Can someone please update that image removing the remakes, remasters and ports from the Vita?
>>318314839
>hide baby games
>doesn't also hide the MATURE GAYMER shooter, jumpscare simulator, and cinematic fanservice
>doesn't blank out the entirety of the PS4/Xbox sections
I think the button is broken.
>>318314839
>hide baby games
>still shows Ratchet and Clank, Knack, Tearaway and weeaboo titles
>Xbros play games
>Nintenbros play games
>PCbros play spreadsheets and games
>PSbros talk about the others' games
Deep Down is about medieval shit? What the fuck, i thought it had something to do with underwater stuff.
>>318315072
>pretending i cant play undermeme on my 60 year old laptop or even my smartphone
>implying i would even though i can
>>318314654
>Undertale
lol
>Mexican - Argentine girl got this ps4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGrB4LV4Mo0
Why do women pretend to like videogames?
>>318311497
A whole 5 games I'm interested in.
>>318314705
you have to be really fucking delusional if you think this
Yawn, PS4 is literally my bloodborne machine, I mean, I don't regret having purchased it but I'm not looking forward to any of its future releases
>>318315382
>>318315340
>pretending i cant play undermeme on my 60 year old laptop or even my smartphone
Why is that a bad thing? I thought graphics didn't matter?
>>318315257
Boot up your wiiU, go play super mario world 3D for an hour then come back and watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5KCB99ZLhY
As a wiiU owner, Nintendo games are simply low-effort babby games, there's no other way to put it. Tearaway and Rachet both have superior platforming and are not 1 hour games with 2 minute levels.
>>318315510
He means has no interest in playing, regardless of anything.
>>318315510
it only matters when discussing console FOTM games
>>318315503
>he buys a Japanese console and hates Japanese games
Go back to neofag.
>>318315603
>>318315580
So what, Undertale sucks because it's a PC game? That's kinda shallow.
Thats great, just remove all the re-releases, multiplats, and digital indie games, then tell me how many real games it has.
>>318315576
>that strawman
>>318315510
It's not bad thing, it makes gaming PC obsolete. Graphics do matter, game looks like taken from NES.
>>318314187
Never fails.
>>318314521
Going digital on the PS4 means renting games.
>>318312997
What a good year for videogames 2001 was. God fucking damn.
>>318311497
I wish my PC had at leat half of that number games upcoming. I feel buyer's remorse
>>318315261
>PCbros play spreadsheets and games
Best combo
>>318315748
>Graphics do matter
Then why play on consoles that can barely achieve 30 FPS, let alone 60? Or suffer from jaggies and lag and watered down hardware?
>>318315529
Undertales sucks because its an indie game, that's just how I see it though. It might even have a good story but I can;t see how some art grad with coloured hair could create something that'll keep me engaged
>>318315510
>I thought graphics didn't matter?
>>318315580
What am I supposed to be seeing in this video? It looks like a babby game with a lot of particle effects.
I intend to play it but I'm exactly wowed by its maturity.
>>318315954
>talk about graphics
>he pull fps out of ass
Many console games run at 60fps. Put garbage like Undertale and you can get 89999 fps even on WiiU.
>complain about jaggies
>play Undertale
hilarious
I don't know why I open these threads, or why they're allowed on /v/ for that matter
There's no discussion here, just boldfaced shitposting like >>318315580 >>318315576
>>318314604
>>318316059
>defending Undertale graphics
Getting desperate don't we?
>>318315954
mgsv runs at 1080p and 60fps on PS4.
not that it matters because nobody noticed anyway because we aren't spregs who obsess over integers and decimals and let numbers dictate our capacity to enjoy video games.
The graphics are good enough to not warrant an additional $2500 space station with no games.
>>318311497
>Deep Down
This is still a thing?
>>318316291
>2500 space station with no games
FUCKIN NAILED IT ANON
>>318316046
>I've never seen Toby Fox at any point in my life
>I've never played Undertale
Das all your post is saying.
>>318316159
>Many console games run at 60fps
>games
Stopped reading there. What consoles have are weak cinematic experiences.
>>318314146
http://gematsu.com/2015/07/idolmaster-ps4-video-shown-10th-anniversary-event-ps-vita-taiko-crossover-game-announced
>>318316291
>complains about PC costing too much using an antiquated and blatantly incorrect strawman
>will call people "poorfags" when they don't want to pay hundreds for PSNplus
>>318316418
>Stopped reading there.
I would stop reading too if I lost argument and had to cling to meme in order to not look retarded.
>>318316214
How is that shitposting? The new rachet is obviously within the vein of Nintendo-eseque mascot platformers and it is completely superior to Nintendo games. I own a wiiU and can attest to that.
>>318314076
Console exclusivity is itself an anti-consumer convention, especially when all the latest consoles are barely different from one another.
When you start fanboying for a company or a system and argue it's better than another, you are playing into the marketer's hands.
>>318316418
>Bloodborne or Bayonetta are movies
oh wow
>mfw have ps4, wii u and pc
i always wonder how is it feel to be poorfags that have to resort to shitposting to feel better about their inadequate gaming experience
>>318316537
>pay hundreds for PSNplus
$25/year for psn+ on blackfriday
>>318316537
>thinks i built a strawman
>actually builds a strawman
noice pc. and for the record, i dont buy ps+
>>318316698
>but you can get this deal one day out of the year
How about the other 364 days?
>>318316690
I have a wiiU and ps4 and it is completely retarded to own a gaming pc in addition to those consoles.
>>318316410
While exaggerated, it's not far off from the truth is it not?
>>318315954
>Then why play on consoles
So I can play gorgeous looking games like Bloodborne instead of cellphone tier indie like Undertale.
>>318316837wait until the next blackfriday
>>318311497
I did something different for once, and looked at the list not dismissing games that don't interest me. Instead I thought what would interest atleast some people.
That's a lot of games. The amount of new IPs is something unexpected. Many famous series are getting a proper sequel. There are a lot of jrpg clones, but surely they'll please their respective fans. What seem to be lacking are games targeted for children, though there are a few of those.
When is this piece of shit getting hacked? I remember the brazilians were hacking it some months ago what happen?
>>318312572
Care to explain why they'd mention them in a conference held in San Fransisco, then? Because that's not a fan made advert. That's the ACTUAL advert they're using for PS Experience.
>>318316931
oh i agree, i use the pc less and less for video games consider i also have handheld
but living in this day and age without a pc is kinda annoying, it is mainly a multimedia/tasking machine for me now
>>318317041
>Bloodborne
>gorgeous
It's just Dark Souls rehashed with more blood and black backgrounds. You call that gorgeous?
>>318317142
>game have cinematic sequences so that means it's movie gameplay don't matter
Arte you retarded by any chance?
>>318311497
>weebshit
>indies
>free2play
Looking good.
>>318317263
>rehashed
Apparently you don't know what rehash is and yes game looks amazing.
>>318312393
>he thinks its a competition
>he can only afford one console
>tumblr filenanes
>>318317418
>>318317528
>grey and light brown
Wow, so innovative.
>>318317409
>games have massive amounts of talking and parts where you don't interact with the game
>this is perfectly fine, even though it undermines the entire point of a video GAME
Well shit, guess I should have picked one up for Black Friday. Meh, I can wait a year.
>>318317528
Game looks like American McGee jacked his tiny dick all over Shadows of the Damned, glad you're fedora enough to enjoy that sort of thing
>>318317219
Fair enough, I'm basically using my laptop now and use it for media/personal files.
>>318317149
They did make an one official one, it was really small, at first but the fans just took it over and added many games to the list and kept the footer at the bottom.
Pic related was the original. I think.
>>318316552
>a game with weapons, gadgets and a health bar
>in the same vein as Nintendo platformers
OK friend, whatever you say.
"Superior" is subjective but I don't really put them in the same category.
I also own a PS4 and Wii U, and I plan to get Ratchet and Clank, before you or anyone pulls out some dumb shit buzzword.
>>318317131
They weren't hacking it. I don't think ANYONE has come even remotely close to cracking the PS4 or Xbone. The Brazilians just found a loophole that allowed you to play some games off of an external drive. You had to get a hold of the drives they made (which meant buying shit from Brazil...good luck with that) and only like six or eight games could even utilize the loophole.
At least that's how I understand it.
>>318317691
There are other colors. If you expect rainbows every few meters in gothic stylized games go play Mario.
>games have massive amounts of talking and
So does every RPG except Bloodborne has much less dialogues than most of them. According to your autistic logic Baldur's Gate or Witcher are movies.
PC users really need to jump ship and come to PS4.
I don't understand ho its fair for you to suffer with no games, honestly. Why do that to yourself? I don't understand.
>>318315510
They dont and thats not why Undershit is shit
>>318311497
They are making lots of promises. Lots of "COMING SOON" but not a whole lot to play there right now
but people have always trusted playstation to deliver games they like, all 3 previous consoles eventually had massive libraries of good and bad games
>>318311497
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE, IS THERE A NEW GOD OF WAR COMING?
>>318311497
>Pc games (better performance)
>ps vita games (more comfy)
>ps3 games (free and mods)
kek
>>318318080
No I don't want those retards there
>>318315812
Oh you mean like Steam?
>>318318062
>So does every RPG
That's because the genre is, in itself, flawed, and only a few exceptions exist to the general rule that RPGS are a poor kind of game.
>According to your autistic logic Baldur's Gate or Witcher are movies.
Except they are. Who needs 5 hours of cutscenes in a video GAME?
>>318318160
Yeah. which is why you should at least wait for more games to come out and the price of the console get even cheaper. Holiday 2016 seem like a good time for me to pick one up
>>318317691
>>games have massive amounts of talking and parts where you don't interact with the game
>massive
Genuinely retarded, or merely pretending?
I haven't played Bayonetta 2 but Bloodborne has an opening cutscene, an ending and some dialogue in between, once the game starts you are never taken out of the action for more than 30 seconds or so. If that bothers anyone so much then they probably have ADHD or something, fucking settle down a little.
>>318318195
>PC
>games
oh anon
>>318318194
AND A NEW UNCHARTED!? HOLY SHIT! ITS A GOLDEN AGE OF GAMING ONLY ON PS4!
#4THEGAMERZ
>>318317826
>Pic related was the original. I think.
Ah. That explains it. Still that's a pretty fucking solid lineup.
>>318318080
Because I don't care for weebshit, tps hack n slash, movie games or generic fps all with inferior controls, resolution/framerate, an online access paywall and a total lack of my favorite genres.
>>318318280
>to the general rule that RPGS are a poor kind of game
Since when your personal opinion is fact?
>Who needs 5 hours of cutscenes in a video GAME?
Bloodborne has 5hr long cutscenes? Source?
>>318318351
are you kidding? we will be hearing about PS5 by 2017-18.
>>318311497
Deep down is still on this list.
Laughingyellowface.png
It was announced together with the fucking system.
>>318318392
That wasn't shitposting. I legit love GoW. And I don't even have a PS4
>>318314654
What exactly is the point you are making with your graph?
>>318318250
Don't want grown men breaking up your sekrit online squeaker club?
>>318318357
It's retarded to not want large parts of your game be unplayable? It's retarded TO WANT TO PLAY A VIDEO GAME? Excuse me if I don't think too highly of the new cinematic direction of this industry.
>>318318537
>Since when your personal opinion is fact?
Since I based it on logic, like a game with gamePLAY being PLAYABLE.
>Bloodborne has 5hr long cutscenes? Source?
I was more referring to garbage like Zelda and Metal Gear and Bayonetta, but Bloodborne makes up for it with horrific amounts of dialogue.
>>318318749
>Since I based it on logic, like a game with gamePLAY being PLAYABLE.
RPG games are not playable? They have more gameplay than almost any genre.
I like PC, obviously, but I wish it had good exclusives.
No, shit like Undertale and FNAF don't count. Where are my solid, lengthy, polished JRPGs or exclusive games that aren't shooters or RTS games (which I hate)?
>>318318718
>PCocks
>grown men
>>318318749
So we went from console games are movies to I don't like RPG games because characters talk so that mean console games are movies XDD
>>318318934
>RPG games are not playable? They have more gameplay than almost any genre.
Try telling that to Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon.
>hey, let's talk to pikachu ^___^!
>insert 50 hours of talking and dialogue
>finally a battle
>oops its short lived
Same goes for quite a few RPGs as well. And even Undertale suffers from it.
>>318318514
>AAA games only suck when they're on consoles.
Did you play MGSV? FO4? Witcher 3 by any chance?
If there isn't a single game on that list you want to play you really don't enjoy video games. Really
>>318318749
You dont have to talk to anyone.
Its just like fatal frame costumes but donne right. Instead of removing they give you the choice.
Whoever wants dialogue can have it. Those who dont just dont get close to an npc and press x.
>>318311497
I feel literally 0 interest for any of the... Titles in that image.
A large library of exclusives doesn't make it a worthwhile platform. PC has far more exclusives than that. If we're counting games that are on previous consoles from the line, and we are because you have heavy fucking rain and beyond two souls listed there, the WiiU has far more "exclusives" because it's actually backwards compatible, unlike the PS4.
Lastly, I noticed that you have Firewatch listed in the image, which is absolutely not an exclusive. It is being released for both PC and even OSX for fuck's sake.
All I really see here is another artificially bloated "list of exclusives." I'm not going to say you HAVE to spend your money a certain way, but I've gotta ask that you stop acting like the PS4 is the best platform in the history of time, especially when you post shit like this.
>>318319341
Being able to skip the cutscenes and dialogue is okay, but it's only a bandaid on the larger problem, namely that games are trying to become 60 dollar movies.
If TLOU and Uncharted didn't tip you off at the start of the gen, then it's just gonna get worse from here.
>>318318749
>Zelda
>5hr cutscenes
You've never even played a fucking Zelda game.
>>318318749
>30 second dialouge scene
>game suddenly is a cinematic experience
I bet you haven't completed nor played a jrpg in your life, xbox kid.
>>318319514
>A large library of exclusives doesn't make it a worthwhile platform
>>318319307
>AAA games suck more when they're on consoles.
Fixed
Why would I choose to play any multi-plat on a console over a pc anyway?
>>318319691
It really doesn't if the exclusives aren't interesting. Bloodborne is literally the only game on PS4 that I have any mild interest in. It's not worthwhile whatsoever for me to buy one.
>>318319627
Skyward Sword, mi familia. Which is basically filler leading from one cutscene to the next.
>>318319646
That 30 second dialogue scene happens about 1000 times just in th ebeginning of the game. It adds up.
>>318319836
>It really doesn't if the exclusives aren't interesting.
If you have bad taste yes they aren't.
>>318319274
>even undertale
It might as well be a visual novel.
>>318315685
Yeah. NeoGAF can go back giving blowjobs to Sony.
>>318319757
Because PC has no games
>>318311497
>Detroit
>Drawn to Death
>Kingdom Hearts 2.8
>Republique
Aw man you guys, I'm so excitednot
>all this PC fat butthurt
>implying you even play games beyond your 3 shitty meme games
>>318320038
That's why it's not my GOTY this year. Do you want to know what my GOTY is?
Excited for Onimusha, Souls and Ninja Gaiden put into a blender, /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuY6R-iF3XU
>cancerous shitters still trying to pretend theres even competition for ps4
>>318319894
Sorry, Skyward Sword is the one Zelda game I haven't played, I've only played the other seventeen fucking games.
>>318311497
>tfw only like 5 good games in that entire image
jesus christ I regret getting a PS4 already
>>318319894
>>318319894
There is like no cutscene/dialogue in Bloodborne though, arguably the focus is on the gameplay in which you'll spend hours in.
I can understand the argument for metal gear but metal gear has always been about cutscenes, the gameplay is fine as is in my opinion, story and character development made the series for me, that's why when the roles were reversed in MGSV i felt the game was no longer metal gear and just a typical AAA shooter
>>318320110
I don't really care about whatever you're gonna say, I just wanna clear up in case you're confused that I think undertale is an overrated piece of shit.
>>318320270
>it's okay if a game has alot of cutscenes, because I can jack off to big boss and quiet
See, I don't agree with this. I prefer GAMEPLAY above all else, with as little story and dialogue as possible. It's crazy, but I like interacting with a game instead of watching it, and Bloodborne just doesn't deliver. Metal Gear is just the worst though.
>>318320308
>I just wanna clear up in case you're confused that I think undertale is an overrated piece of shit.
This is how I view console exclusives, so perhaps we can see some common ground.
>>318320063
Then why do I have literally over 100 games installed and almost 50 more on my wishlist?
>>318311497
Looks pretty good. Still want to get a Wii U and a PS3 instead though.
Probably will get a PS4 at some point, maybe when I have my first duty station.
>>318320172
>all information obtained from: http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main
>obtained from:
>2013
I think the Xbone is a pile of shit, but come the fuck on dude, they changed a lot of those things when literally EVERYONE said they wouldn't buy their console if they kept those ideas.
This is why people hate people who pick one corporation and choose to defend it at any cost. You're using ridiculously old information to try to prove your point that your toy is better than someone else's toy. Corporations are not looking out for you, and they will fuck you over if it makes them more money to do so.
>>318318250
This. Seeing how bad modern PC redditors are I don't want to see them on PSN.
>>318320539
Bloodborne is watching instead of playing? Holy shit, nigger you went full retard.
>>318320663
because they are indie shit I can play on smartphone
>>318320539
>so perhaps we can see some common ground.
I should probably also clear up that I, the guy who said undertale is trash, jumped into the conversation you were having with someone else. I don't think all console exclusives are bad purely because they're console exclusives, but every exclusive that's come out for the PS4 so far and has been announced except for Bloodborne looks absolutely mind-numbingly boring to me and not worth the console at all. Same with Xbone. My WiiU, on the other hand, fills my needs quite nicely with the 7 or 8 games I have for it along with my PC library of 300+ games.
>almost as good as the PS2
That isn't something to celebrate about. The PS2 was overloaded with weeb shovelware, just like PS4 is turning out to be according to your pic.
Of all those games I realistically give a shit about 5-10 of them.
>>318320539
>Bloodborne dosen't deliver gameplay
>>318320539
If you like gameplay above all else then MGSV would have been the game for you. For me MGSV would have been fine with the same level of gameplay PLUS story and character development. It feels substanceless otherwise, gameplay is important but so is story and lore.
It's also obvious now you haven't played Bloodborne nor have you played MGS1. There is simply not enough dialouge or cutscene in Bloodborne for you to reach that conclusion.
>>318320901
nope
>>318321160
yep
Let me know when it actually shapes up and then I'll care.
>>318320974
>>318321039
It seems I'm not really communicating clearly enough the things I demand for a game to be good, which is my fault. Let me post something that remedies this and shows just why I don't like games like MGS or Bloodborne or Mario.
Whether a game has gameplay or not, if it's also bogged down by garbage, it's hard to enjoy it.
>>318321354
OH, and for that anon who says MGSV isn't cinematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwowXkysk2o
>4 hours of nothing but talking
>>318321354
Story=Garbage now
Don't reply to him, hes a troll or some dudebro with ADHD
>>318311497
All I see are movies and weebshit.
>>318321354
>that image
Top tier bait anon. 10/10
>>318321560
>games are movies now
>games are shit because they are japanese
Asshurt is real
>>318321527
>>318321670
I know that games need some kind of context in the form of story, but DOES IT NEED TO BE HOURS LONG?!
Can't you take the Metroid Prime approach and not put it in my face so blatantly? If you want lore, can't you hide it in the environment, instead of making massive scripted sequences where the player does nothing but sit and watch?
>>318321285
In 2016. You PC only niggers seem to forget that it's still earlt in current consoles lifecycle especially considering most of the devs started developing with one year delay due to the old consoles still being around. Give it some time, if by the end of 2016 there still is no games then by all mean feel free to keep memeing. Also it's not like PC is any better, outside of a couple of meme games it had literally nothing released this year.
>>318321849
a guy and his dad just enjoying their games, this pic makes me happy
>>318321849
>outside of a couple of meme games it had literally nothing released this year.
My goty nominations would like to argue otherwise mate.
>>318321354
>this whole post
>>318321809
This only holds true for games like metal gear and bayonetta though AND you can skip the cutscenes 100% of the time. You aren't being forced to do anything, just don't watch them. As someone who wants the most out of my games I watch them and enjoy them.
Gonna build a PC since I often feel I'm missing out on the freshest stuff, especially multiplayers. PS4 interests me since BB and Persona and Playstation has always been a good choice, Wii U interests me since couch co-op, 3DS interests me because of all the exclusives. PC is the best for getting into online communities and getting online 'friends'. Not being able to play the newest games is gimping that aspect.
>>318322140
that dosen't change the fact that they are movies
>>318321790
it's a fact that the west makes better games overall.
>>318322038
>a bunch of console ports
>a buch of meme games
>a bunch of unfinished early access games games
Not even Mushihime sama could be considered 'new release' on PC since you've been able to play it since PCSX2 got released.
>>318322038
0/10
>>318322038
It's obvious where the discrepancy is between games you have played (on PC) and when games on consoles you don't own start to begin.
>>318322339
bloodbornes like a 50+ hour game jesus
6/10 bait because you got me to reply
>>318322376
no, it's not
>>318321849
Maybe by the end of the current console generation (2017) there will be a few games worth buying and the system will be sold at a price that better reflects its value.
Meanwhile, now is a great time to buy a PS3.
>>318317592
Stay mad Nintendo baby
>>318322038
>am I /v/ yet
>>318322587
where you spend hours watching talking instead of interactive the game
>>318322213
I'm the opposute not surprisingly. I spent the last 10ish years on PC playing multiplayers, MMO's, multiplayer shooters and everything under the sun, etc and have now given all that up and moved to consoles exclusively. It's strange.
>>318322339
Why can't video games have some cinematic elements in them? What if people enjoy the movie part AND the gameplay part?
What makes you think that you hold the absolute truth and that video games that aren't like your assfaggots have no right to exist? Do you really believe that video games would be better if everything was arcade style with 10 minutes of gameplay?
>>318322607
>now is a great time to buy a PS3.
No, it's not. More and more PS3 games are coming to PS4 with better visuals and framerate.
>>318322917
>muh graffix
>>318322607
Don't you think it's a little bit silly to completely dismiss the system forever and meme it because after barely 2 years of existance it doesn't have much games that personally interest you? Especially considering good games take 3 years or more to develop?
>>318322793
If I wanted to watch movie I would watch movie
>>318315257
DID SOMEONE SAY KNAAAAACK
>>318322069
>>318322140
The games shouldn't have them in the first place, that's the point. Skipping a cutscene is no different than going into console and typing "level up 50" to avoid grinding in a mediocre RPG. It's just a bandaid on a festering wound and doesn't fix the problem.
>>318322471
>>318322482
>>318322525
>>318322723
I don't get what's wrong with the list. It accurately represents what I think SHOULD win as "best game of 2015."
>>318322793
>Why can't video games have some cinematic elements in them?
Gee, I don't know allow. Why shouldn't video GAMES (with game PLAY) have large segments of the GAME where you don't actually PLAY THE GAME?
It's like asking why books aren't all just pictures with no words. You're kinda missing the point of the entire medium.
>>318323019
>dismiss the system forever
That's not at all what I said
>>318322917
Just a reminder that this wouldn't be a problem on the PC.
>>318323120
But people should not be allowed to play and like Metal Gear? What about people who like video games and movies? To them it's the best of both worlds, they get some good gameplay and some fun story to follow what is wrong with that?
People have different opinions and like different things, some people enjoy interactive movies, it allows them to immerse themesleves more into the story by becoming part of it. Why can't there be video games in various genres with different target audience? It's not like your assfaggots are going away or getting replaced by games inspired by movies.
>>318314604
Very funny, lad
>>318323221
>I don't get what's wrong with the list. It accurately represents what I think SHOULD win as "best game of 2015."
Stop talking about games you haven't played.
>The games shouldn't have them in the first place
Did you start gaming like 5 years ago or something? How old are you? Was your first game COD? Serious question.
>>318323409
"wouldn't" the game is best PC game
>>318316214
I came into this thread just to hope against hope that at least one post pointed this out.
Godspeed anon
>>318323409
>being obsessed with graphics and performance
>>318315580
Gotta admit, that looks pretty fun
>>318323536
Why are the first 20 games on the PC list obscure low budget indie games that I could play on my 60 year old laptop, yet wouldnt because I wouldn't play those sorry excuses for exclusive games in the first place?
Show me some AAA games or cease speaking.
>>318323536
>all that indie shit
>>318323221
You're such a good boy.
>>318323185
KNACK BABYBAY AWW YEAHH
>>318321354
So, you want a hard, unique (not a shooter) game that's on PC and isn't a poorly done port and doesn't involve any storytelling breaks?
I can understand those qualifications for GOTY, actually. They aren't the same as my qualifications for GOTY, but I can understand how you would choose those.
What do you think of Titan Souls? It's challenging, it's not bloody, it's colorful, it doesn't really have any dialogue, and it doesn't involve any anime or weeaboo stuff. I feel like that's the kind of thing you'd like a lot, although it does have pixel graphics and I feel like you might deem it cinematic for what happens after you kill the bosses.
Personally, I think your actual opinions are pretty valid, but I think maybe you spend so much time on /v/ that you're overreacting to certain things. Like, cinematic is a stretch of the term for Pokemon SMD. There's dialogue and story, but you can blast through it by mashing B.
See, on /v/, we have a tendency to overcompensate our arguments for how vehemently and aggressively people scream their opinions. I don't really plan on picking up MGSV because I really lose interest in the cutscenes and I feel like the story is too developed and convoluted for me to just jump in after only playing 2 and 3. That said, I recognize that it's just not my type of thing, but it's not a bad game.
Also, again, I really think you're overusing terms when you call PSMD cinematic and Fallout a CoD clone. Gears of War isn't even an FPS. You don't have to like shooters, but using the term CoD clone is just killing any meaning the phrase has. It's why people say "go back to tumblr" for literally anything these days. Overusing terms is why they have no meaning.
>>318315937
Tell me more about this game
>>318323678
lel
>buy ps4 for better graffix
>fucking pckeks are graffix whores go back 2 lebbit
Do you know how retarded you look when you do things like this?
>>318311497
>Summonride
Fuck yeah, I'll shell out the dosh for Kamen Rider Infinity.
The rest of this looks like weeb trash. I got so excited I almost started cumming and shitting when I saw Rena and Claude but it's just a goddamned port of a port.
>>318323517
>But people should not be allowed to play and like Metal Gear?
The problem comes from people wanting video games to be glorified movies, like with MGSV. 4 HOURS OF CUTSCENES, and the fans still wanted more. They wanted Kojima to gut the remaining gameplay just to add more cinematics. Did you forget how long MGSIV was with the story? 8 HOURS OF CUTSCENES, NONSTOP. And I'm not sure if you undertand this, but that's kinda bad for a medium that's supposed to sell itself on being played and interacted with.
>>318323547
>Stop talking about games you haven't played.
But I've played those games. Why do you have such issue with my selections?
>Did you start gaming like 5 years ago or something?
Been here from the start man. I've seen games devolve into hollywood experiences, and I've had enough of it.
>>318323881
It's deep
Very deep
2 deep 4 me
>>318323918
>wanting to play games at 0p and 0fps
Go home PClown
>>318311497
I'll be so sad if Japan ever stops using the anime art style. It makes my life worthwhile. I hope I never live to see it die.
>>318322038
>>318323221
>It accurately represents what I think SHOULD win as "best game of 2015."
Okay, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and replying to you seriously for conversation before, but I get it now. You can't seriously say Undertale is a 7/10 when you say games shouldn't ever be cinematic. I mean, it's 90% dialogue. The actual gameplay is barely gameplay, it's like playing a bullet hell from the 1970s.
>>318324110
Is that what the PS3 does?
>>318320539
>shit taste; the post the movie the game
>>318323918
>buy console because of the video games you like
vs
>build PC because "lele reddit told me le 60 fps is le better XD"
PC fats don't even play demanding video games it's 99% Dota 2, CS and Meme Fortress 2.
>>318316059
pic related
>>318323760
>>318323840
>What do you think of Titan Souls?
There's really no challenge in it. Bosses die in one hit and choreograph their attacks too much, so there's never really a threat.
>Like, cinematic is a stretch of the term for Pokemon SMD. There's dialogue and story, but you can blast through it by mashing B.
Mashing B just doesn't feel like a proper solution for it, especially considering that this is a NINTENDO game, the one company I expect to not have a bunch of cutscenes and dialogue. I expect that from sony or Ubisoft, but come on Ninty.
>Also, again, I really think you're overusing terms when you call PSMD cinematic and Fallout a CoD clone. Gears of War isn't even an FPS. You don't have to like shooters, but using the term CoD clone is just killing any meaning the phrase has.
I have a simple system to tell me if a game is a COD Clone.
1. If it has guns.
2. If it has excessive violence.
3. If it's third or first person.
4. If it tries having "le realistic" graphics.
5. Gruff white guy as the main character
6. Focus is on the story, or linear hallway checkpoints.
Games can have some of these, but having ALL of them has become a blight on the entire shooter genre.
>>318323918
Again.
>>318316059
It's like pottery
>>318323810
YOU LIKE THAT YOU LITTLE BITCH DONTCHA
>>318324516
>using strawman because got btfo
>>318324462
What about
>build PC because of the video games I like
>>318324552
>console games have shit graphics
>but PC pixelated indie games graphics is ok XDDD
Damn you showed them
>>318311497
How do we stop this!? /v/ says the Wii U is the best console.
>>318324027
Do you even know why Metal Gear Solid is popular in the first place? Do you know why the fans like the series so much?
Do you even know about video games at all? Cutscenes are a thing since the NES and people who play video games always loved them.
End yourself underage faggot.
>>318324527
You're literally retarded.
>>318317142
I haven't played Bloodborne yet, but have you even played Bayonetta?
It's the most fleshed out and versatile combat out of any action game, EVER. Not to mention how sexy andfunit is. Also the GOAT soundtrack.
>>318324702
>but PC pixelated indie games are all that exist!!!
sure whatever you say
>>318324291
That's why Undertale is so low on the list. I love it so much from the likable characters and amazing soundtrack and the... erm, "unique" graphical presentation, but I cannot forgive it for having so much boring bloated exposition. Trust me, I struggled with trying to determine where UT belongs on a rating scale, because I don't want to be a hypocrite. '
And that's when the answer hit me: I'd make sure it's in a lower tier, while a game that does fit my standards deserves GOTY.
>>318324596
>moving to goalpost
Am I the only one who didn't care for bloodborne?
>>318324686
Like what? Cite some games that made you build a PC, post your most played steam list.
Because all I ever here when people talk about PC is how the performance and graphics is so important and so worth of that $600 980. It's never about the actual video games and when it is it's "PC port when?" followed by "I don't even play weebshit :^)".
>>318324832
well, this is what you people post constantly
>>318324845
>directly responding to topic of his post is moving goalpost
>>318324946
Me either
>>318324845
Where is goalpost? Never been.
>>318311497
>Detroit
>Quantic Dream Collection
OH MY SIDES
>>318311497
>Summon Night 6
I only played Swordcraft story 1 and 2, so since when are these games SRPGs?
>>318311497
DELETE THIS
>>318324946
yes
>>318324718
>Do you even know why Metal Gear Solid is popular in the first place?
Same reason why reddit and tumblr and Undertale are popular. Because the majority often has poor tastes.
>>318324743
>I haven't played Bloodborne yet, but have you even played Bayonetta?
I tried to enjoy it at least. But it's just boring and skirts itself on "LE SEXY XD" characters and cutscenes, and wacky randumb gameplay. I was never a big fan of hack and slashes, but a pretentious one like Bayonetta just pisses me off.
>>318324527
Your system isn't really indicative of a clone, that's just six tropes/motifs. I would add things like specifically a military shooter and twitch reflex/arena gameplay. I'd also switch #6 to focus on the multiplayer. Some other stuff you could throw in is create-a-class loadout systems and killstreaks.
I really just take issue with the term "clone." Like, that system you have would say Metal Gear is a clone of call of duty, and regardless of your opinions of it, it would be quite a reach to claim that.
>>318311497
I like how people post this picture but they probably never played and never will even touch 80% of those games because they'll be either Japan only or be so bad you'd better avoid like a plague.
>>318325013
Maybe I not the same person?
I was just showing the double standard here. I don't like or hate undertale or any PC gameaside from mobas
>244 Posts
>72 IPs
Damn someone is buttblasted
>>318325176
Damn son, you're trying way too hard. Not even worth a serious response since your acting in such bad faith.
>>318311497
>God of War: Working Title
>>318311497
>doax3 is multi
>rachet and clank, cool that's one
>Yakuza
>DQ is multi
>Starocean, good another one
>GG will be multi later
>SFV is multi
>KOF will be multi
>Shenmue III multi
>Tekken is multi
>Valkyrie... nice
So that's like 4 games, and other are either....
>Multi now or later
>Weebshit
>Remaster trash
>Indie bullshit
I can name 4+ good wii u exclusives right now, the only reason they suck is because they arent getting multi's
Xbox... lol
You guys are just the shiniest turd, congrats. Nowhere near the ps2, ps3 killed your reign.
>>318325236
>Japan only
No such thing with no region lock. Now whether or not they'll get English subs is a different matter. If you understand nip it doesn't matter.
>>318325454
What did you expect? Even mentioning PS4 or Sony in general causes immense butthurt among both PC friends and Nintendo fans.
>>318325002
The selection of games that interest me would be pretty damn tiny on a nogaems station.
>>318324053
I want to play this shit but apparently it's guaranteed to crash after a while. Does anyone know how unplayable it really is? Is it worth getting into as it stands?
>>318325195
>Like, that system you have would say Metal Gear is a clone of call of duty, and regardless of your opinions of it, it would be quite a reach to claim that.
It's not a 1:1 clone of course, but it follows the dangerous trend of the franchise by making games about realism and voice acting and the spectacle instead of having substance, and considering that most of Metal Gear V feels unfinished, I'd say they spent a bit too much on the former.
Here, I've made an image to accurately explain my position. But in a nutshell: I feel a great conflict between myself and this industry's definition of a "mature game" and a "kiddy game" and I feel like it's time we stop judging things positively depending on how much blood and violence and realism they have. Not to mention cinematics.
Yes, call me autistic if you please, but I'll be damned before I ever keel over and accept movies being the norm.
>>318325648
Go to bed, nintendrone
>>318325753
You cropped the assfaggots and team fortress out?
>>318320141
This looks really fun.
This, Bloodborne, and Gravity Rush 2 are all games I look forward to.
>>318325843
>Nintendrone
When PSX and PS2 were the best of their respected gens. Its just bad luck for you guys that the others were just as good but fell short.
>Implying i'm not an idort
I want the Sonyggers to leave. Your dominance has passed, now everything is trash tier.
>>318325935
lel no but you can imaginate all you want.
>>318325648
>those potentially good games don't appeal to me personally so they're all shit
>>318321354
> Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon just cinematics.
> Shitposting this hard.
>>318326083
You know there's an easy way to clarify this without doing much effort. If you didn't crop the screenshot you have nothing to lose..
>>318326156
TLOU and The Order 1886 "technically" have parts of the game where you interact with them. Does that make them any less movie games? Shouldn't a game like this have almost zero dialogue and script to tread through?
it's all anime bullshit that anybody with taste or self-respect wouldn't even consider touching
this is the same as saying that the 3ds has any considerable support left. more than 3/4 of it is anime shit that nobody in the west wants or will even see.
>>318325756
I honestly haven't given it a real attempt. I still keep going back to my old standby.
>>318326152
>I get hype for project diva and games of the same tier
Top kek
>>318325002
Star Citizen, Elite: Dangerous, countless other space simulators and strategy games like Planetary Annihilation or Kerbal Space Program, and Red Orchestra 2 are the first few high-stress PC exclusives that jump to my mind that made me want to build my PC. There's also the added bonus of many multiplat games that run at a higher framerate with sometimes slightly better visuals than their console versions. I also have friends who play a lot of games on PC, like the Battlefield series, some stuff I mentioned before, and other random multiplayer stuff that we pick up.
My PC was $550 total to build, and it runs everything I've mentioned at high/max settings at a good framerate. Before that, I had a shit laptop that I played a lot of low-stress exclusives on, but I didn't mention those before because a lot of weaker computers can play them, albeit around 20 frames with bad settings.
For me, none of the games posted in the OP look interesting. There are more PC exclusives that I find interesting, and I can emulate older consoles. The added framerates and better graphics are almost purely aesthetic, but when it comes to multiplat games, I don't see how that's not a bonus.
I could have either paid $400 for a PS4 with one exclusive that I am interested in and a bunch of multiplats that don't run or look as good. Instead, I paid an extra $150 for more exclusives that I like and better performance. I don't get what's bad about that.
>>318311497
Any ps4 list that includes persona 5 is instantly disregarded.
When will you stupid fucker understand that I can get that on my ps 3. Maybe if Sony stopped fucking releasing ps 3 games, and started making actual exclusives, I'd consider getting one.
>>318326525
So many amazing games, The Last of Us is truly remarkable and stay mad I have no PC play all the multiplats in the best quality available for a console, develops are choosing PS4 as the lead platform and outsourcing the PC version to a half ass dev, enjoy ur shit tier PC versions my $300 console looks better and all those multiplats belong on PlayStation, they sell best on PS and publishers can't go against Sony cause they love money, PlayStation was always the home for 3rd parties since 1996, you can't fight it Sony won and next year the Japanese exclusives start rolling in and they won't stop
>>318325826
Undertale contradicts two of your points. Story is the #1 part of that game, and the gameplay is not challenging at all. This is why I think you're trolling.
>>318325826
That image seems mostly based on aesthetics. It almost seems like you're doing exactly
>it's time we stop judging things positively depending on how much blood and violence and realism they have
but in the opposite direction. What you should be doing, if you don't want a really restricted view of what can possibly be good, is appreciating aesthetics as they suit different games. Having gory and realistic graphics doesn't make a game bad, nor does having stylized graphics.
You're going unreasonably far in opposing what you perceive to be the problem, only to end up opposed to games that don't even contribute to said problem at all.
Cave Story and Undertale force much more story on the player than the Bloodborne you keep complaining about. I like all three of these games and I just don't see how what you're saying makes any sense, which again makes it seem like you're only talking about aesthetics.
>>318326668
Sure, I'll reply seriously. I played The Last Of Us two years ago on my PS3. I'm not going to apologize for not paying an extra $400 on top of what I spent on my PC just so I can play it again with slightly better visuals. $400 is above what I would deem worth better visuals. $150 is not.
Going through that list, I compiled the ones I'm actually interested in.
I preordered four of them already.
>>318326525
Why are you so butthurt? Why are you trying so hard to justify your purchase. It's a good thing that you went for PC because of the games it has and not because of the memes but don't be so butthurt about consoles. Nobody gives a shit that you are playing on meme resolutions at meme framerate no need to rub it on everyone's face. Also consider the possibility that lot of the games listed by OP will potentially be good and some people are interested in them, these people don't give a shit about you playing western trash at 60 fps.
>>318326530
Fair enough, you're a pretty decen guy. Too bad you're probably a cancerous platform warrior that port begs and shitposts every thread that isn't about ERP-ing on steam.
>>318327060
I'm not butthurt and I'm also not saying you can't enjoy PS4. All I'm saying is that it's not for everyone, and that people who keep spouting that one platform "won" the generation or that no other platform is worth purchasing for anyone should open their minds a tiny bit.
Also, the amount of times you used the "meme ___" meme tells me that you're the only one who's mad here.
>>318326560
Learn English, Paco.
>>318326560
>graphics matter on PC and are worth $1000
>graphics suddenly don't matter on console and the inferior version is suddenly okay
At least be consistent nigger.
>>318327060
>Why are you trying so hard to justify your purchase
>>318325002
>Cite some games that made you build a PC
Sounds like someone just wants to be right
>>318326701
>Undertale contradicts two of your points
Yeah, I just realized my mistake by posting an older image. I meant to post THIS one. I used to have high hopes for Undertale, but then everyone in the game just started prattling on in massive bits of dialogue. I never got a chance to correct my images to compensate for this.
>>318326776
>What you should be doing, if you don't want a really restricted view of what can possibly be good, is appreciating aesthetics as they suit different games. Having gory and realistic graphics doesn't make a game bad, nor does having stylized graphics.
The problem is that those gorey, realistic games spend all their budget on junk like voice acting and CGI cutscenes, and guess what happens? They forget to optimize the rest of the game. Do you remember Bloodborne's infamous day 1 launch problems? The 0.2 FPS that plagued half the game, and the 50 minute load times? But hey, at least From got to implement blood splattering everywhere when you hit an enemy.
>You're going unreasonably far in opposing what you perceive to be the problem, only to end up opposed to games that don't even contribute to said problem at all.
I've tried to like every game on the left, but the flaws that persist in them always outweighed any "enjoyment" that I could extract.
>Cave Story and Undertale force much more story on the player than the Bloodborne you keep complaining about.
Undertale was a bit of an oops on my part, but I will defend Cave Story as being good because it rarely ever held you in one spot and made you watch hours of cutscenes. Most of it was spent exploring the world around you. Plus, there was no waste in the game. No excessive voice acting, no realistic graphics, and killstreaks and achievements and online leaderboards/multiplayer weren't prominent in it, so in a way it remained untainted from what I feel plagues the industry today.
>>318327250
I really fucking hope you're not one of those PC only niggers shitposting and derailing every thread with your shitty reddit arguments about PC.
>>318318718
>grown men
>gloating over prebuilt toys
>shitting up all threads
>complain more about graphics than actually playing games
>petition like babies for games
>which they then turn around and pirate
>then cry and whine why devs treat them like the assholes they are
yeah nah.
Only games the PS4 has is Bloodborne, Rime and the Last Guardian, other than that nothing interest me.
Maybe I'll buy the console when it's 100 dollars and they're trying to sell everyone the PS5.
>>318327392
>this image
Are pcfags really this delusional?
>>318311497
I don't care what you say, any list that includes fucking dragon quest heroes as a "worthwhile game" is retarded.
The PS4 is shit.
The controller is utter garbage.
The exclusive library is complete shit.
PS4 online is fucking garbage.
If I want good console exclusives I'll get a Xbox One or Wii U.
If I want decent console online gaming I'll get the Xbox One.
If I want the best of everything I'll get a PC.
Now matter how much you shill for Sony the ps4 is always going to be fucking garbage, and you know it, that's why Sony shit heads are wheats shilling.
Because if they don't they can't suppress those troubling feelings of having bought a console that is utter fucking garbage.
>>318327807
have you even tried ftl or soccer cars?
Guys, did you get an external HD to store the games u bought off PSN ?
I am not sure how this whole thing works, and where the downloaded games are stored.
>>318327507
You sure talk about reddit a lot.
>>318327392
>Xenoblade listed as and example in Mature games
>>318314705
no fuck you, i wish
PC was definitely the way to go this gen.
ShitStation 4 is just Xbox 360 Part 2.
>>318327960
>good
>xboner
You had me with you for about 4 lines bud. Better luck next time.
Sony fucktards spend all their time starting console wars and shit posting instead of playing games because their consoles have no games.
>>318325826
>>318327392
I don't think Bayonetta tries to be "mature" at all. The game is pure wacky fun.
>>318328258
Not him but it's not a bad console gotten some enjoyment out of the exclusives.
>>318327392
I honestly found Cave Story to have frustratingly slow dialog scenes, it's the one thing that's keeping me from ever replaying it.
>They forget to optimize the rest of the game. Do you remember Bloodborne's infamous day 1 launch problems? The 0.2 FPS that plagued half the game, and the 50 minute load times? But hey, at least From got to implement blood splattering everywhere when you hit an enemy.
Personally I forgot about it because I only recently bought a ps4 and with the patch it's mostly fixed, but I can see your point.
>Plus, there was no waste in the game. No excessive voice acting, no realistic graphics
Different aesthetics do in fact impact the experience while playing a game. I do agree that many games that do have voice acting do not benefit from it at all, but voice acting can definitely be a boon. If I'm playing an action game it seems odd to be standing around looking at dialogue boxes Cave Story-style, and having a voice speak while you're actually playing the game is much more natural in that case. Realistic graphics, in turn, have their own place in games that want to convey a realistic setting or have to do with realistic mechanics. By being this against certain possible aesthetics you're excluding a whole slew of games that could be interesting in their own right, simply because they don't fit your definition of what games should be like.
It just seems pointlessly limiting. I can understand some frustration if your particular needs aren't being catered to at all, but there's shittons of indie developers doing nothing but making games like the ones on the right, so it seems a bit odd to be this opposed to any game with somewhat realistic, regardless of what it was trying to do with those graphics.
>>318328258
>buh buh buh muh gaystation!
>xboner!
Aww, you sound triggered son.
Guess I was right about the ps4 being utter fucking garbage. That truth hit so close to home it brought you to tears.
PS4 is utter fucking shit.
>>318328387
The exclusives that'll make their way to PC in a year? If your going to wipe your ass with a few hundred dollars, I'd suggest at least getting to play Bloodborne. Who let these microshills in here?
>>318328142
It doesn't fit the "excessive violence" part, but it sure fits the "MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DIALOGUE/CUTSCENES" part. I mean seriously, by the time Shulk says "le true power of the monado!" and his wacky sidekick mascot makes a witty retort for the 50th time, I'm about done.
>>318328336
>I don't think Bayonetta tries to be "mature" at all. The game is pure wacky fun.
The problem with this game is that it too tries way too hard, yet in the end it's still about violently killing monsters with guns and shooting and swords. Being "wacky" doesn't magically reduce that to nothing. Along with Xenoblade, it too suffers from too much voice acting and too many cutscenes. I frankly don't care about feminist characters like Bayo who exists only to be eyecandy and flaunt how she's a "strong womyn who don't need no man."
ITT: Sony retards who actually think they can troll people into liking a huge piece of shit.
Dude Raider?
I don't play that shit because I'm not a faggot.
>>318328507
I play on pc friendo. I have a ps4 for bloodborne, that's all its good for. What part of me owning up to that twice gave you your retarded sentiment? Upset mommy bought you the wrong console? Tell her to upgrade daddys pc next time
>>318311497
>PS3
>PC
>Vita
There really aren't that many games actually made for the PS4 here.
>>318328587
Nah I'll keep enjoying playing games. You enjoy calling people shills senpai.
>>318328725
Weeb shit?
I don't play that shit because I'm not a pedo.
>>318317726
>I don't know who Lovecraft is, I'm 12, silly!
>>318328603
>I frankly don't care about feminist characters like Bayo who exists only to be eyecandy and flaunt how she's a "strong womyn who don't need no man."
This nigger serious?
>>318328758
>but but but I'm a PC gamer I swear! Sony is still cool, r-right g-guys?!
>>318328936
Why is the PC fan wearing a neogaf outfit, are you sure that isn't a Sony fan?
PSP = No games
PS3 = No games
PSV = No games
PS4 = No games
The sony tradition continues.
>>318327392
so you don't like shooters, qte fests and shooters.
Congratulation, most of us don't either but the fact that you're trying to group in other solid AAA titles under your skewed umbrella of logic is simply to your own disadvantage. We've already been through this before, you like indies and have a very extreme specification for the games you like play, and that's fine, just please stop talking shit about games you've never played and clearly don't understand.
>>318329115
PSP = No games
PS3 = Demon Souls
PSV = No games
PS4 = Bloodborne
The sony tradition continues.
Holy hell what's gotten the sonyggers all riled up?
>>318328451
>>318328921
>>318329147
I honestly dont see the point of games ever needing voice acting. See, it ties into the theory of handholding in video games. if I need to be told about something or have my hand held with someone talking to me, then the game is just taking the easy way out.
If I may, perhaps I can incorporate something I learned long ago. I remember an old documentary called "The Invisible Hand of Super Metroid" which perfectly described the experience that you go through when playing the game for the first time, and how you don't need one single bit of dialogue or voice acting to tell you where to go. It was so masterfully crafted that to this day most metroidvanias could never even hope to achieve it. Infact, I think this is the article in question.
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/HugoBille/20120114/90903/The_Invisible_Hand_of_Super_Metroid.php
I'd like you to imagine it. "Interactive Storytelling" without any talking, CGI cutscenes, or hell, barely even a word on screen. Makes me giddy just thinking about it. And this was also back in the time when games didn't need excessive violence or tits everywhere. Female characters could be sexy without it being their sole defining trait.
Nowadays? Well, I'll let you decide if the industry is still held to the same standard.
>>318328612
ITT: Multiplat stations try to convince people AAA games are shit only when they're not on PC. And the fact that PC has games, which it doesn't.
>>318329213
DirectX 12 and Blast Processing
>>318329203
/thread
>>318328936
>being such a butt hurt Sony autist you had to made your own tl:dr edit.
Sorry kiddo, sony autists are the worst fanbase every. Everyone knows it. Everyone laughs at you.
Stay butt hurt!
>>318329064
And what would be the official PC outfit? A blanket because nothing else fits them?
>>318329387
Nah probably a hoodie, t-shirt, and skinny/slim fit jeans.
PC > Sony shit
Xbox One > Sony shit
Wii U > Sony shit
Android TV > Sony shit
Actual Shit > Sony shit
>>318327392
>you will never be this autistic
Feels good. I have fun with games on both sides.
>>318329249
>I honestly dont see the point of games ever needing voice acting.
And this is why nobody will take you seriously. You obviously only own a PC and havent actually played games with high quality voice acting. You hate say you hate cutscenes but you actually hate any kind of story has the capacity to engage you with a deeper experience with the game doesn't adhere to your goldfish tier attention span. In general, it's safe to assume that you simply do not like video games in general., which is fine. Go play your indie games but please stop talking shit about games you've never played and clearly don't understand.
I love these threads.
I love watching everyone shit all over the gaystation kids every time they try to gloat. Man, it must really suck to be a gaystation fanboy,
>>318329115
>PSP = No games
I beg to defer
>>318329341
PC port when? I'll buy 2 copies for $5 to support the developer so they see PC is relevant platform and port the relevant game so I can pirate it :^)
>>318315576
4/10 of those games did get PC ports, although this was back when PC ports were shit and consoles actually had their own merits making each one worth owning instead of just being downgraded PCs
>>318328936
Fuck off retard
>>318329654
You just proved his point anon. A game I can play on my phone is no reason to buy a PSP.
>>318311497
Why are you fags so obsessed with all these weeb japanese niche games
>>318329681
>waaah PC piracy
Meanwhile I'm enjoying my Gateway 3DS and CFW PS3.
>>318328603
Goddamn, you're a fucking faggot. Can you make it any more obvious that you haven't played any of the games you shitpost about?
>>318329793
because they're good. Not all western games are crap, etc.
>>318329681
>ebin :^) maymay
sure this the players™
Don't you niggers ever get tired of this console war bullshit? What greater purpose drives you to shitpost about the same moronic subject, on and on endlessly all day every week? Is it a mental defect?
>>318329249
But the Souls games and Bloodborne are some of the only games that actually still do anything even remotely close to what you're describing. It seems odd to complain about those in particular when they're so close to what you're looking for. There's some optional talking and cutscenes, but a lot of the story is told through solely environmental cues and item locations.
I also disagree that every game necessarily needs to strife for this. It suits some games, but when you're making a game about a distinctly social situation, say, Pathologic, it would be very odd indeed if there was no text at all. Again, it seems like your arbitrary needs are incredibly limiting and in a way I kind of feel sorry for you.
>And this was also back in the time when games didn't need excessive violence or tits everywhere
There were always incredibly violent and sexy games. You're also conflating two points, violence and tits have nothing to do with textless storytelling.
>>318328936
>NEVER EVER
And then GTAV and MGSV came out on PC. Funny how that works.
>>318329646
>You obviously only own a PC and havent actually played games with high quality voice acting.
I have actually, but only very rarely has it ever improved the experience, like pic related, where the voices help differentiate the classes so you know who you're fighting in a firefight. Even still, just because it has voice acting doesn't excuse the questionable decisions made in the game, nor does it take precedence over the gameplay, which is more important.
>You hate say you hate cutscenes but you actually hate any kind of story has the capacity to engage you with a deeper experience with the game doesn't adhere to your goldfish tier attention span.
I'm playing a VIDEO GAME. I don't really want a story that tries to "engage le narrative experience". I want to have an adventure, to platform, to shoot in a wacky, colorful environment, or maybe solve a puzzle, or drive a wacky space vehicle, or command armies of terran siege tanks, protoss dragoons, AT-AT walkers, and experimental monkeylord spiderbots. Does any of this require a deep 10 hour narrative into the human psyche to enjoy?
>>318329681
Console port when? I'll buy 2 copies for $5 used so they see my console is relevant platform and port the relevant game so I can buy it used :^)
>>318330024
And yet still no red dead redemption port
>sonyggers dont have enough games to play so they spend all their time shitposting
>>318329793
First day here?
>>318330141
You mean the RDR port for PS4 and Xbone? Oh wait.
>Ignored bitter /v/ shitposters and bought the PS4 black friday bundle
>Bought Bloodborne and Tearaway which are great games
>Have Persona 5, Gravity Rush 2, TLG, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Final Fantasy XV to look forward too, all of which are not coming to PC
feels good
>>318325708
Lack of region lock doesn't automatically translate the game though.
And importing or creating a Japanese PSN account is a pain the fucking butt. Only obsessive DoAX3 fans actually went through the trouble to get this game, most people obviously won't as we all know console gamers are lazy as fuck.
>>318330220
Stop avoiding my question.
>>318330210
No It's PC that have no games, no scratch that Xbox have no games. No actually Nintendo have no games.They can't decide and only deflect
>>318330210
But most of the posts in this thread are shitting on Sony
>>318330245
Apparently Rockstar can't even get the emulated version working for xbone.
Would be nice if they took the time to port it over, that's all I'm saying anon.
>>318311497
>games yet to be released
they may as well be complete shit considering how fucking awful most AAA are being lately.
>>318313443
>They're not out yet. How am I supposed to know?
....and yet you still brag and post huge tile images of games that don't even exist yet. How can you stand yourself?
>>318330391
Confirmation bias much
>>318330270
>bloodborne
>tearaway
>great games
I have a PS4 and it's a piece of shit
Silky smooth 25 fps experience is not for me
>>318330324
Your question is far too retarded to answer seriously. You're clearly pretending to be retarded. Stop.
>>318329985
>But the Souls games and Bloodborne are some of the only games that actually still do anything even remotely close to what you're describing.
To be honest, they don't really do it as well as people like to say. They often have confusing design philosophies, and rely on dumb luck sometimes. The games aren't terrible, but they're far from revolutionary.
>when they're so close to what you're looking for.
That's the key here. They're "close" but not quite there entirely.
>There were always incredibly violent and sexy games
I know. Games didn't NEED it though. A game that experimented outside the comfort zone could sell pretty well, even if it wasn't part of a famous brand and never got marketing. Games like Super Mario World and Super Metroid and A Link to the Past didn't need the princess to strip down to their underwear and dance on a pole to gain an audience. They didn't need Kirby violently ripping his enemies apart in bloody chunks to see success. But nowadays, thats all the industry focuses on because of this warped view of what makes a game mature, as if maturity is the only thing that makes a game good.
>violence and tits have nothing to do with textless storytelling.
To me, they go hand in hand. They're not really doing much to enhance the gameplay, but rather to keep you occupied during the boring parts of the game, which I Feel is backwards. If you want me to be interested in your game during the boring parts, perhaps you could put in non-boring gameplay. But you and I know that alot of high profile developers these days don't give much thought to that idea.
>>318329981
1. Realize this has said many times in the past,
2. It did not change anything, console war threads were still posted at the same frequency.
Fucking faggot.
I'm returning the PS4 bundle I bought on black friday. I got tricked by /v/ shitposters into thinking it had great games but aside from Bloodbourne all the good ones won't be out yet until next year. And I can play a lot of them on my PS3 and PC.
>>318322038
>prominent 2015 releases
>games from 2016 on the list
>ratings for games you haven't played
can i borrow your time machine?
>>318329793
Because this isn't reddit and because they're usually better than AAA Western garbage.
>>318330454
Right back at ya, slick.
>>318330715
>no u!
>>318330458
>buying a ps4
>complaining about framerate
fucking retards I swear.
also calling bullshit that you own a ps4
>>318312997
fucking can't tbqh
why was 6th gen so godly
>>318330620
Sure, it's right next to the machine that lets you determine a game's quality based on evidence given beforehand, a company's track record, and common sense.
Oh wait, I think people have that built-in.
>>318330601
>I don't know the answer to your question, so i'll just spew out some filler and call you a retard
>>318330825
Because the market for vidya was 10x smaller back then and shovelware wasn't nearly as profitable.
>>318330606
>They often have confusing design philosophies, and rely on dumb luck sometimes
You've literally never played one of the game's in the series. If you have, you don't have very much experience with them if you actually believe this. Stop posting, you stupid fuck.
>>318330774
I got it for 200 dollars
dont care im rich
>>318330750
>no u!
>>318330643
They all look the same to me. Western games have more variety.
>>318331098
>I have nothing to say so I'll just repeat his post and spew no u right back at him!
Adorable.
>>318330616
So we're going with mental defect, then? It makes sense I guess, you'd have to have some form of mild retardation to repetitively post the same tired bullshit everyday and think it's a worthwhile use of your time. Have fun then, but please try not to be too much of a burden on your parents.
>>318331018
>You've literally never played one of the game's in the series
You telling me that Blighttown couldn't use some design improvements, or that it's a good idea designing a game around really small pathways and instant death pits where you can be knocked around easily by archers?
>>318331126
fallout 4
shooter
cod
shooter
battlefront
shooter
Assassins creed
Assassins creed
FarCry
...
What else?
Witcher 3 was the only good western game released this year. Western vidiya is shit
>>318330878
Why the fuck do you even come here? You're clearly underage if you don't understand the idea that some people have preferences that differ from yours and enjoy japanese games.
Why did I even take this retarded b8? Just go back to r/4chan.
>look at how many games my favorite console will get!
>regardless, I will spend my days shilling the PS4 on 4chan for free because frankly speaking I'm not really interested in any of those games
>muh 30 million sales!
Ok, I get it. Sony banzai!
Is that ok?
>>318331270
Resistence is futile anon.
>>318316291
Cool story, you revisionist cunt. Die in your mother's arms on Christmas morning.
When the PS4 had the best version numbers was ALL you fuckers cared about. MGSV was practically a PS4 exclusive because it was the only version that ran at full 1080p/60.
Of course as soon as the PC version was announced framerate and graphics suddenly don't matter, it was all YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT GRAHPICS WE DON'T LET NUMBERS DICTATE OUR ENJOYMENT PC HAS NO GAMES IT WON'T FEEL RIGHT A BLOO BLOO BOO
>>318331126
Sure thing.
>>318331237
>I'll accuse that anon of confirmation bias even though I clearly have it too
Cute.
>>318331126
>he still plays western garbage
What is it going to take for you to finally learn your lesson?
>>318331453
As compared to Souls rehash, generic anime JRPG and boring cheap hack and slash?
No matter how you look at this the modern Japanese developers are just garbage. /v/ just overhypes those titles out of nostalgia.
>>318331423
Blighttown is bad because of the framerate. Everything else you mentioned was only "unfair" due to your lack of skill.
>>318330606
I want you to respond to that guy's point about games that have to do with interacting with other characters. Are games only allowed to be empty environments that tell of past happenings? If you want to involve actual people in a game's setting, it seems highly unlikely that they won't ever speak. If you want to make a game about social dynamics, it seems doubly likely that they will speak at some point. If not with text or voice acting, should this only be done with vague shrieks and hand motions, ensuring no more difficult ideas than "me hungry" can ever be communicated? All for the sake of aimless subtlety and minimalism?
It seems to me that you're the one advocating for games that only rely on violence, but are somehow opposed to them including blood because some games you dislike also include blood.
>>318331660
And yet those Japanese games plays like garbage and are boring to hell.
You people bark loud but in the end this stuff sells poorly even in Japan. Not even their home country wants those games anymore.
>>318331486
>I'll tell him to go back to r/4chan so i don't seem like the retard here.
Kill yourself anon.
>>318331506
>This entire fucking strawman argument.
Pic related, you proverbial ass cactus. Performance is only relevant to me as a console user when it is noticeably bad, I am perfectly content with the performance my $300 exclusive + multiplat machine turns out and I'm sorry that makes your $4000 multiplat machine owning ass hurt as fuck.
>>318311497
>that image
>>318331904
Still better than Cûckout 4 or SJW Simulator: Inquisition.
>>318331660
You're just cherrypicking. I could easily switch and swap your image and use it against you.
>>318331662
not sure if serious
Bloodborne is not a souls rehash, even if it was, it's mile better than fucking shooters jesus christ.
>generic anime jrpgs
Yeah you haven't played a jrpg in years and have no idea. Just look at gravity rush, xenoblade or star ocean, although admitedly star ocean leans toward typical jrpg, these games are way mre engaging and longer than shooters and AAA rehashes like ass creed. Witcher 3 will stand with Star ocean and xenoblade as far as I;m concerned, they are good open world games with tons of content.
>>318330391
look at the fucking OP if you're seriously wondering why
>>318331904
>And yet those Japanese games plays like garbage
>he thinks WRPGs have good gameplay
Top kek.
Even turn based babby shit is more complex in terms of gameplay than modern WRPGs these days.
>>318330684
>being salty and make your own edit
autism is real here, chaps
>>318331883
>I want you to respond to that guy's point about games that have to do with interacting with other characters. Are games only allowed to be empty environments that tell of past happenings?
That's an acceptable way of doing things ala Bastion and Transistor. But if your game needs NPCs and towns and villages, you can at least keep them from bloating the game with billions of words. I like to harken back to an old /tv/ saying. "Brevity is the Soul of Wit". It means tell me what you're gonna say in as few words as possible. instead of saying, "due to my hunt against the amber dragon, my energy suffered depletion and I must now find a method of restoring my power through edible means", you could say, "ey dog, I'm hungry, fetch me a sandwich."
>If not with text or voice acting, should this only be done with vague shrieks and hand motions, ensuring no more difficult ideas than "me hungry" can ever be communicated? All for the sake of aimless subtlety and minimalism?
Let me clear the air. I don't hate all story, and I understand the important of context within a game, but like I said above, there needs to be moderation in how much talking there is. Surely you can understand why the brave adventure who wants to go into the next dungeon doesn't want to sit around and talk to some old lady about the history of their town.
>It seems to me that you're the one advocating for games that only rely on violence,
I Don't think games need violence. I think conflict is necessary at times for the need for progression, but does it need alot of violence? Does that blood stain on the floor of the ground really make the game that much better when you killed that squirrel for 2 EXP? I don't see how it would help. And such frivolous details like that are baffling when you consider how much they could've saved by not including it.
>>318331924
>I don't have a comeback for that anon's comment that won't make me look like the drooling retard I am, so I'll just focus on one part
Okay, little guy.
>>318331126
Don't fall for it
>ps2 library
>good
nah
>>318331660
>he is a fucking weabo
well im not sick bro
>>318332353
Bruh, western games have been trash since like 2007. You're just too much of a newfag to realize it.
>>318332963
>Western games have been trash since like 2007
Pretty fucking subjective, don't you think?
>>318332963
>man faced lesbians
Versus
>generic anime girls
I think we all lose here.
>>318332651
It was far too retarded to answer seriously, maybe he should stop pretending.
>>318333198
You'll only disagree with that statement if you're a dudebro casual.
>>318333198
Name a decent western game that was made after 2007 that isn't trash.
>>318333442
Team Hat Simulator 2.
>>318333371
>only five characters on the right are anime-styled
Westakeks aren't even trying anymore. And they still look better than their cartoony counterparts on the left.
>>318331928
Stop using cranky for your stupidity you fucking dumpster trash baby
>>318333442
Dragon's Dogma
Dark Souls
Bloodborne
Witcher series
Dragon Age series
Your turn weeb
>>318333442
>>318333667
If you're basing a game's quality on the character design and not the gameplay, you dun goofed.
>>318333701
only two of those are western games you fucking retard
>>318333701
> Being this ignorant
tkek
>>318333397
I admitted I took the b8 already, anon.
>>318333442
I'm currently playing Destiny, and it's fantastic.
>inb4 weeb bitching about how it is a first person shooter, on consoles even though this is a console thread, or how it's just "western trash" like "western" is an insult
>>318333442
NV, Tropical Freeze.
I do agree that good western games are few and far between
>>318333701
>Dragon Age series
>series
Only Origins was good, faggot.
>>318334048
>Destiny
Not even a weeb, but you have terrible taste.
>>318332610
>"Brevity is the Soul of Wit"
It sounds nice on paper, I agree. It's a good rule of thumb to keep shitty authors from being as shit as they could possibly be. It is not, however, an actual law for writing. Words, too, can be an interesting experience if used properly.
>Surely you can understand why the brave adventure who wants to go into the next dungeon doesn't want to sit around and talk to some old lady about the history of their town.
I can, but a lot of games try to present stories more complicated than just nameless adventurers in nameless dungeons for absent reasons. The fact that most of these games also have terrible stories does not make the concept of having a more complicated story and a sufficient amount of words to tell it bad.
>Does that blood stain on the floor of the ground really make the game that much better when you killed that squirrel for 2 EXP?
If the developer wants to convey a dark aesthetic, which leads to quite a different experience for the player than a bright one, it might actually add a lot. If they want to convey to the player that they're playing a psychopath a la Drakengard, then a lot of violence with blood is not a bad way to do so. These are not frivolous details, they are integral parts to the experience. You yourself agree that context is important for the mechanical rules to make sense to us humans. These different choices for aesthetics are exactly that.
>>318333701
>Dragon's Dogma
>Dark Souls
>Bloodborne
All japanese bruh.
>Witcher series
Did you even play Witcher 1 & 2?
>Dragon Age series
Are you seriously implying that the Dragon Ages series is acually good?
>Your turn weeb
Bayonetta 1 & 2
Dragon's Crown
Catherine
Yakuza 4
Nier
Killer is Dead
Vanquish
MGR Rising
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
I purposely avoided what you would call "weebshit".
>>318334127
Okay contrarian.
>>318333442
Jackie Cha--fuck you
>>318334662
Fuck off back to reddit nigger.
>>318333815
Witcher,
Soma,
Dragon Age,
Wolfenstien New Order,
Dishonored,
Binding of Isaac,
VVVVVV,
Rayman,
Sunset Overdrive,
Donkey Kong Country Returns and Tropical Freeze (Retro is an American Studio)
The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom,
Battleblock Theater,
Costume Quest,
Mirror's Edge,
Scribblenauts,
Metro 2033,
Hotline Miami,
Limbo,
XCOM: Enemy Unknown,
Eufloria,
Bioshock,
Penumbra,
Shadow Complex,
Grand Theft Auto V,
Little Big Planet,
etc,
etc
WHAT ARE GOOD PS4 MULTIPLAYER GAMES? I want to coop with a buddy
>Crows Burning Edge
Looks great
>>318334375
>I purposely avoided what you would call "weebshit".
Killer is Dead is weeb shit.
>>318333442
The best "Western" games are those that aren't really Western. STALKER, Metro, Mountain Blade Warband, Witcher etc.
>>318334375
>>Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Fine ass fucking action game. Only the online co-op missions are literally impossible.
>>318333442
Wings of Vi
Divinity Original Sin
The Void
>>318334237
>It is not, however, an actual law for writing. Words, too, can be an interesting experience if used properly.
I agree. But they're supposed to be limited in an interactive medium considering that reading something limits your interaction with it.
>I can, but a lot of games try to present stories more complicated than just nameless adventurers in nameless dungeons for absent reasons.
Right here is one of the main issues. When they're fleshing something out, does it need to have that extra dialogue or backstory? Or is the same going on too long about something that's ultimately inconsequential to the main game? If they want to create an entire universe, that's what an expanded universe is for. Imagine if Star Wars tried to shove in every single bit of the EU into the movies. It would be a mess.
>If the developer wants to convey a dark aesthetic, which leads to quite a different experience for the player than a bright one, it might actually add a lot.
The problem is that they never budget it correctly, or to make sure they have room for the edgy graphics and blood, they have to sacrifice something else. With Bloodborne it's obvious that the gameplay quality suffered just so From Software can make Coldsteel Souls.
>If they want to convey to the player that they're playing a psychopath a la Drakengard, then a lot of violence with blood is not a bad way to do so
Another problem arises here. What is the end goal here? To show that you're a psychopath ingame, right? Now, I've never played Drakengard, so remind me, what happens in it? Does your main character just kill people, or do they plan on a global extinction ala Shadow the Hedgehog? Sure, they could show the MC violently murdering everyone in graphic detail, but if you want to drive the point home that they're worse than Hitler, perhaps a more inventive method could be employed to show how bad they are. Even for the sake of adding an edge to your game, there's far better options.
>>318334881
Diablo 3 and borderlands. You need nothing g more
>>318335251
>The Void
Russians would be offended if you called them Western.
>>318335654
Russia is weird because I wouldn't in any sense classify them as Asian however they aren't quite western culturally.
>>318335296
I would love to respond more, but I need to get back to programming.
>is the same going on too long about something that's ultimately inconsequential to the main game?
I think what's going in is that we disagree on what "the main game" is.
Sorry to end this so suddenly.
>>318333683
there is no need to be upset
>>318334876
You know someone is desperate when half of their list is indie shit with low production values.
>Soma
>Wolfenstien New Order
>Sunset Overdrive
>Little Big Planet
Garbage.
>Metro 2033
Not Western.
Japan makes quality games that sell nothing and the West churns out garbage that sells trillions. Pretty sad. The Western indie scene is pretty cancerous as well with all of it's Phil Fishes and Kikestart Jewery.
>Literally 80% of the replies are the same handful of Sonykeks desperately trying to validate the Bloodbornemachine
>>318322038
>all these people triggered when their favorite game is low on this list
The biggest mystery is, why is Pillars of Eternity so high? Game's combat was boring as fuck and it had more WORDSWORDSWWORDS than probably any game on that list.
>>318337708
muh Baldur's Gate nostalgia.
>>318337548
This is a Weeb vs Westakek thread now. Get with the program, buddy.
>>318319274
Confirmed of never playing that game
Anyway, all Sony threads are cancer. This thread just proves it
>>318322038
1/10 for trying
>>318326286
So are you saying that story=bad?
Actually I knew that from the start but still holy shit you're retarded
The cutscenes in PMD is definitely less than 1 hour
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