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Calia's age has been retconned and she is marrying Anduin, giving Stormwind a claim to Undercity
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k
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more porn for me

you people seriously undervalue blizzard's contributions
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>>318189926
who
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>>318189926
but that does not make sense shes 2 years older than arthas
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who
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>>318189926
Didn't she marry with Deathwing and 2 years older than Arthas?
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>>318189926

Sauce
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>blizzard isn't cool with sexy milf aged women marrying teenagers

Come on Bliz that's the hottest shit
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>>318189926
>giving Stormwind a claim to Undercity
so? if they even wanted to reclaim UC, what other than 'humans used to live here' do they need for legitimacy?
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>>318189926
JUST
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>>318191178
Apparently they are playing CK2 and need a valid casuis bellie
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>>318189926
>giving Stormwind a claim to Undercity

Yeah because legal ownership is the real issue with retaking Undercity.
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>>318189926
>Almost 2016
>still playing wow

i shiggy diggy
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>>318189926
I dont understand, I have million questions

- She was suppose to marry deathwing? what happened with that?
- how did she survive undead takeover? It's impossible
- what's wrong with her being 32? still fertile
- why wouldn't anduin marry a dranei? we know that he find them attractive and they also believe in light and shit
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>>318190832
>Retcon
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>>318191454
-Deathwing engagement is broken off at the end of Day of the Dragon when his spells are lifted.

-No idea, but it's not impossible, there are (were) loads of humans still alive in Lordaeron for a long time.

-She'd be much older than 32, more like 40.

-Political reasons. Given the chance he'd marry Wrathion.
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>>318191178

Because the real citizens of Lordaeron are still living there.
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>>318191557
sauce that shit google gives me nothing
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> Blizzard
> giving a shit about lore consistency
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>>318191762
I think i'd know the outcome of that referendum then.
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>>318191775
Use saucenao, you fucking scrub.
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>>318190832
>Thinking anything matters in a Blizzard universe now
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>>318191775
Strange, it works for me.
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>10. Last Stand - Defeat Nathanos Blightcaller on the deck of the Skyfire.
>11. Queen Takes King - Battle Genn Greymane on the deck of the Skyfire.

What happens in this scenario /v/?
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>>318191454
>why wouldn't anduin marry a dranei? we know that he find them attractive and they also believe in light and shit

Are characters in Warcraft cool with interracial marriage?
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>>318191413
This thb senpai
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>even blizzard knows that women past the age of 25 are worthless to all of humanity

It's a good feel.
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>>318192000
Not getting any results either. If you found it, post it
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Statue at Paladin Order Hall
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>>318190796
Purge
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>>318192245

Hot interracial action is canon, senpai.
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>>318192000
>works for me
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Nice source bro
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The Forsaken is a threat towards everything and should be destroyed.
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>>318192124
sylv shoots genn in the snout
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>>318192551
The Forsaken have been irrelevant since their inception.
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>>318192551
so is illiteracy
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>>318192767
>The Forsaken have been irrelevant since their inception.
>since their inception
>inception
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>not arranging a marriage with the only human sovereign nation that hasn't been completely fucked over, kul tiras
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Where the fuck was she pulled from? I actually thought that she had been silently retconned from existence?
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>>318193146

Kul Tiras is irrelevant, also probably fucked over by the cataclysm.
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>>318193146
I doubt anyone in Actiblizz remembers that Kul Tiras exists.
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>>318189926
>>318192265
>>318192384

Stop using a private server to shitpost you faggot
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>>318191762
Sylvanas isn't a citizen of Lordaeron, nor are her secret police made up of valkyr, or the various unholy abominations her plague doctors cook up for her to use on her enemies, but when said plague doctors go insane and attack the Alliance AND her Horde comrades she somehow claims she's unaware of their actions despite directly benefiting from them.

Seriously though Sylvanas should be executed for more war crimes and acts of high treason than can even reasonably be recounted during the span of the average court hearing, how the fuck is she Warchief.
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>>318193251
No, just MIA since Rise of the Lich King.
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Danath Trollbane NPC is also in the files as a quest giver
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>yfw Sylvanas turns her into an undead
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>>318192384
Literally who
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>>318193402
hoard ar badguy
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>>318193507
Turalyon
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>>318192551
Not really. They just wanna be left alone and to themselves, but Alliance can't have that. They could leave the Horde, fall back to their original borders and cease all conquest (they can pull this off because they're dead) but the alliance would still try to destroy them.
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>>318193878
But that looks nothing like Turalyon. They couldn't be bothered to give him a non-generic model?
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>>318189926
>Calia is marrying Anduin

What kind of asspull is that? She just appears out of nowhere for the sole purpose of marrying Anduin?

Who writes this shit?
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>>318194247
You say that, but then every expansion there is at least one if not multiple instances of the Forsaken wiping out entire populations for no goddamn reason other than that they want to slaughter indiscriminately.
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>>318194389

Gee I wonder.
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>>318193432
>just MIA
That's my point.
Where was she at?
No one ever acknowledged her existence outside of some fluff in the Warcraft PnP books.
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>>318194395
Alliance started it. Nothing wrong with defending yourself from those who have been trying to slaughter you.
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>>318194990
They do it to the Horde too, though, and half the time they're in a middle of a fucking truce with the Alliance when they do it. And what about that time they invaded Gilneas, who were literally shut off behind a wall and had done nothing to instigate the attack, ever?
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>>318192245
There's a gnome/human couple in Northrend.
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>>318189926
>Those who ran away from the scourge and essentially abandoned Lordaeron have more of a claim than those that actually fought and died when the scourge invaded and then later drove them out.
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>>318192245
Garona was a fruit of interracial sex
So was Turalyon and Alleria's kid
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Where are you guys getting this info from?
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>>318192384
cool he looks exactly like my main
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>>318189926

I like how people keep saying this, but no source.
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>>318195648
datamining from the PTR
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>>318196031

We already know Calia is in the game somewhere from what's been datamined.
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>>318196061
From which site? MMO-C and Wowhead aren't reporting this shit on the front page, and they're usually all over spoilers and shit.
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>>318196097

So where do all these stretches come from then?
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>>318189926
What exactly caused everyone with talent to leave Blizzard?
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>>318194291
>But that looks nothing like Turalyon.

It's a less ugly version of him.
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>>318189926

The book was never accurate anyway

The game retconned it to begin with

Book

>I dont wanna marry daval prestor

In game

>Flips coin into dalaran fountain
>Wishes Daval notices her, "He's so dreamy"
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>>318193546

That's the thing though, both the playerbase and blizz don't see the Horde as the bad guys. They see them as the proud noble ancient Klingons.

Which is why a leader that does blatantly evil shit doesn't fit.
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>>318197136
>jamie lee curtis face
>piercing
Otherwise total woodberry
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>>318195243

Yes, they do, because that's how succession works.

Doesn't matter that no one knew Arthur was conceived by King Uther Pendragon, or that he had been living with Sir Kay growing up, not knowing his heritage.

He pulled the sword from the stone and anvil, and Kay revealed his identity, and by divine right he was King of all Britons.
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>>318197654
He wasn't an undead tho. Only you die your shit belong to the next living person in the succession line.
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>>318197936

Terenas Menethil is dead, as is Arthas, King of Lordaeron.

Arthas never had any children with Jaina, thus the next in line of succession is Calia.
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>>318191557
Just gonna save some people time

bubukka
http://exhentai.org/g/868232/51e32cbf16/
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HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>318198298
Bless your kind soul.
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>>318198364
Where is that from? HotS?
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>>318195106
Didn't Garrosh push Sylvanas into that to make up for the Wrathgate thing?
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>>318191413
If they do it right, it could actually be an interesting plot point. The Forsaken don't hate Terenas, I mean they have a shrine for him right in the city saying he shouldn't be burdened by the sins of his son. If there's a legit Menethil who wants the throne, that could cause some rumbling in the Undercity.

Let's be real though, Blizzard will never go anywhere with the idea.
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>>318189926
>Calia's age has been retconned
Says who?
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>>318198731
Shadow priest artefact.
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>>318198731

Shadow Priest Artifact Talent.

Essentially mini versions of the old talent trees are back, but they're on the new artifacts
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>>318194990
>Alliance started it

Excuse me, what was one of the first acts the Forsaken did as a faction? Cause I'm pretty sure it was betraying one of the last vestiges the Alliance in Lordaeron.

Say what you will about Garithos, but Forsaken fans can't pull the "Alliance started it" card when even the poster-boy for racism in the Alliance was down for a team up with them, and he got fucked over.
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>>318199123
It'd be interesting if Calia came in and supported the Horde and petitioned the other races for recognition as the ruler of Undercity over Sylvanis.

After all, if she's warchief, she has more to do than just rule UC right? Might want to pass that responsibility on to the rightful heir that isn't batshit insane (yet)
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Prishe's age has been retconned and she is marrying Trion, giving San d'Oria a claim to Tavnazia.
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>>318199352
>>318199372
That's pretty gay.

Weren't the talents removed for being all "cookie cutter and toxic" or some bullshit like that?
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>>318199123

And the sad part is, it won't not happen because of story reasons. It'll not happen because of gameplay reasons, because you can't have a Human on the throne of a Horde race.

Same reason why they had to make it so that the Blood Elves don't join the Alliance in MoP when they had every intention of ditching the Horde and going back to the Human/Dwarf kingoms that supported them in the Second War. Because it would instantly make all the BE players either kicked out of their capital, or be forced to be Alliance players now.
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>>318199462
And Sylvanas might consider it if Calia would consent to being killed and raised, but not otherwise.

It came up in one of the books, Vereesa was offered a commanding role in undercity but she would have had to be killed first.
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>>318199462
For some reason I have this feeling that in Legion something will happen that forces Stormwind to officially have to recognize Sylvanis as Queen of Loerderon.
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>>318199608

Cookie cutter yes. But so were the every 15 levels system.

This is for the sense of progression with your artifact.
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>Blizzard is stealing its plots from small-scale roleplaying private servers

I am so done
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>>318199123
The shrine wasn't built by the Forsaken but by the people from lordaeron after Terenas got murdered by his own so, hence the message about not being burdened by the sins of his son.

The Forsaken don't give a shit about Menethil or about people from Lordaeron in general. they even experiment on them or shamelessly destroy the remaining human towns with the Plague.
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>>318199795
>This is for the sense of progression with your artifact
And the old talents were "for the sense of progression" of your character. But guess is better to make that part boring and sell more lvl 100 boosts, right?
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>>318192124
Nathanos gets defeated i.e. killed, Genn gets battled i.e. survives.
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>>318200018
>Nathanos gets defeated i.e. killed
Hasn't stopped him before
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>>318191998
>Thinking anything matters in a Blizzard universe now
>implying it ever did
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>>318199796
wat
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>>318199814
Surely it says something that they haven't got rid of the shrine. I mean especially after they've started to populate the upper parts of the city.
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>>318199608

Everything is cookie cutter. It doesnt matter anymore

People will find a way to optimize something and they will post it on the internet for everyone to copy

May as well just let people pick whatever they want

>>318199756

Sylvannas was never queen of anything ever though. She never ruled Quel Thelas. She wasnt even human so she has no stake in the kingdom of Lordaeron.

She only rules the forsaken because when they all broke free of the Lich Kings control they had no idea what to do and were all confused, and she was so thirsty for revenge against Arthas that she saw a chance to mobilize the forsaken as an army against him.

And the Forsaken being all confused and scared and shit devoted themselves to her.

>>318199814

The forsaken dont give a shit about humans anymore (for the most part) because those that attempted to return to their families when they got their free will back were essentially vilified and treated like monsters, chased off with torches and pitchforks

They have every right to be mad at the living.

Sylvanas on the other hand, has no such right. The living never fucking did anything to her. It was all Arthas/The Lich King. And now he's dead. And she knows she's going to WarcraftHell when she dies, so now she's intent on killing everything to ensure she doesnt end up in hell.
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>>318199953

You still have talents. Instead you get an impactful ability every 15 levels instead of "+1% damage with swords" or "+1% damage to giants" or "Disables against you last 3% less time" every level.
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>>318192384
Those eyebrows...
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>>318198364
i knew we'd reach the point where people claim warcraft is a ripoff of dota
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>>318200318
They didn't get rid of the shrine because they don't give a shit about it. It doesn't represent anything for them anymore. The Forsaken stopped being Lordaeronians the moment they were raised by the Lich King/Sylvanas. Hell they didn't even bother to wipe Terenas' blood in the throne room.
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>>318193051
>loud low brass blares in the distance
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>>318200453
>every 15 levels
And that kills the "sense of progression with every level".

The lack of stats/talents/perks/choices make the leveling pretty boring. Again, I think that's their intention.
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>>318200558
>Implying they didn't meticulously paint that on for dramatic effect
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>>318191545
How the hell do you retcon that?
>woops she died but heres an alternative history version thats younger ;^)
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>>318200352
>The forsaken dont give a shit about humans anymore (for the most part) because those that attempted to return to their families when they got their free will back were essentially vilified and treated like monsters, chased off with torches and pitchforks

>They have every right to be mad at the living.

To be fair you have to look at it from the perspective of the humans. Their entire kingdom was being overwhelmed by hordes of fuckers that looked just like them, and they were expected to not be scared shitless?

And it's not like the Forsaken were altruistic, let's remember again, they betrayed the last form of government the region had.

If they were vilified after doing something good, that would be a far better reason to be pissed.
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>>318200648
It's the blood from Terenas' crown in the Warcraft 3 cinematic.
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>>318200836
There's a boombox under the floorboards playing the cutscene too.

Sorry to ruin your illusion
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http://legion.wowhead.com/spell=189051/greymane-death

http://legion.wowhead.com/spell=189058/shoot-greymane


Well fug.
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>>318200751
It's already been said but I don't know why Blizz is against having a MILF Calia marry/fuck a barely 18-year old Anduin
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>>318201021
because old women are gross.
>better cover up slyvanas in an effort to look PC tho :)
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>>318198364
>you summon a faceless void from to aid you
>from to aid you
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I just want humans in WoW to not get shit on for once.
Is that too much to ask?
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>>318201008
They're not gonna kill him after going the effort of giving him a new model.
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>>318201008
Sylvanas probably executes him after she captures him in the fight

Oh well, at least he beat her ass and killed her second in command before that
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Who gives a fuck. Might as well make Thrall a super saiyan and just fire a hadoken at sargeras.
It would be a step up from this garbage. Blizzard can suck my fucking cock, nothing but a sinking ship.

Cowardly fucking kikes.
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>>318200818

>Betrayed the last form of government the region had

Nobody liked Garithos other than human supremacists. Nobody gave that much of a shit that he died.

Nobody built him a shrine or gave him a big statue

>>318200904

>Boombox under the floorboards

Explain
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>>318201090
Humans are literal nazis. They put the noble savage orcs in slaves camps even though they just wanted to rape and pillage their cities.
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>>318195361
>Garona was a fruit of interracial sex

ir rape iirc
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>>318201084
C'mon man, they don't have the resources for a spelling check..
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>>318201207
>Explain
If you listen closely/turn the volume way up in the throne room you can hear the cutscene of Terenas getting killed (Unless they cut that out for cata or something)
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>>318201258
>mentioning rape in a modern videogame
Pls. If we pretend it doesn't exist it'll go away
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>>318201142
>>318201008

Aren't Worgen immune to the plague or something?

I've got a sneaky suspicion Genn is gonna go ham on Sylvannas and tear that ass up
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>>318201345

No you max out the ambient noise and turn off all other music
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>>318201258
Noble savage don't rape, m8.
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>>318201452
>Aren't Worgen immune to the plague or something?

Yes, they can't be resurrected either. They're completely immune to undeath.

It's why Crowley's daughter was taken hostage, because he couldn't bring himself to turn his own daughter into a worgen
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>>318201258
it's not rape if it's from a underprivileged race
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>>318201207
>Nobody liked Garithos other than human supremacists. Nobody gave that much of a shit that he died.

>Nobody built him a shrine or gave him a big statue

It doesn't matter. What did the Forsaken do to prove that they were any different from the ravenous hordes of Scourge that were literally at the doorsteps of their families. Keep in mind, we're not talking about like, families that were in Stormwind or some shit, these people were having to deal with Scourge on a day to day basis.

You got a bunch of zombies coming at you, and damn right you're gonna be scared. The Garithos stuff is just the icing on the cake, because it proves they were already willing to backstab humans who were up for helping.
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>>318201452

Worgen aren't immune to the Plague but they cannot become undead.
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>>318201554
>They're completely immune to undeath.
DK
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>>318201640
nothing about the DK class fits into lore
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>>318201640

Blizz explicitly said that Worgen and Goblin DKs aren't canon and that they're there purely so you can have a DK with those racials.
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>>318201753
Well why won't they let me have a fucking Panda Demon hunter, then?
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>>318201718
Draenei dks were explained somehow but i forgot where
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>>318201802
uh-huh
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>>318201367
>>318201469
>>318201558
ALLIANCE, YES!
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>>318201640
If I'm not wrong Worgen DK aren't from Gilneas. They're one of the Worgen who got summoned by Arugal.
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>>318201090
>humans getting shit on

>alliance story focuses on them 99% of the time
>their heroes hog the entire spotlight of the alliance (Anduin in pandas, ect)
>their architecture is the entire basis for 99% of alliance towns/garrison/airships/everything else
>have the most heroes still alive by far

Humans have no right to complain when Tauren exist.
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>>318201753
>Goblin DKs

What's wrong with Goblin DKs in lore?
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hey /V/

hearthstone
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>>318201942
why would the LK ever waste time raising a goblin corpse as a DK
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SPOILERS FOR LEGION LORE DONT LOOK IF YOU DONT WANNA BE SPOILT

Varian dies

Im pretty fucking bummed to be honest. I liked him
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>>318201909
Yeah, they're from Shadowfang Keep, escape Arugal and somehow one gets recruited by the Scourge and another gets recruited by the Argent Crusade
Still, makes sense they're not considered canon
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>>318201942

Technically nothing, but you can't make one canon and not the other.

>>318201797

THERE IS NO REASON, BUT LEAVE ME THIS CONTRADICTION DAMNIT!

We've had DKs of nonhuman races since WC2 (sorta). All Demon Hunters have been elves.
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>>318202012
I assumed that more people were going to die when artifacts were announced.

Why else would we be using shit like the Ashbringer or Doomahmmer?
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>>318202009
Why would the LK ever waste time raising a gnome corpse as a DK?
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Wait, why is Sylvanas warchief now? Is vol'jin dead?
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>Survival Hunters are now Melee Hunters

What the fuck.
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>>318202012
Hopefully this means we get more of other races like dwarves, night elves, and worgen

Heard magni gets healed too
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>>318202012
>varian dies?

How come VARIAN DIES? Thats odd, that they would make VARIAN WRYNN DIE. Odd choice by blizarrd games, making VARIAN WRYNN THE KING OF STORMWIND DIE.
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>>318202128
at least gnomes make useful shit
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>>318202012
>thrall continues to be alive
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>>318202012

He was one of the few racial leaders that still had decent writing behind him.

Magni is getting unpetrified though. That'll take some weight off of Muradin's shoulders, because honestly Muradin doesn't know how to be king.
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>>318202140
should've been BM to be quite honest.
>survival is about trapping your opponents so they can't move or setting off giant explosions
>yes I'll be doing that while Im right next to them, this makes sense
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>>318201942

Wrong timing, as in there were no Bilgewater cartel goblins around when the DKs came about.

They were all on Kezan living it up

But you can hand wave it as "They're some other goblin"

Worgen DKs however make 0 sense because of the whole "Cant be resurrected" deal.
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>>318191369
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>>318201915
It kinda makes sense if you think about it, the Humans are the richest and most powerful race in the Alliance, so the dwarven/gnomish airships, funded by Stormwind gold, should have some Human elements to them. The alliance towns made by humans obviously look like human towns, because that's what they're used to building. Dwarf towns have dug-out bunkers, gnomish towns have those weird tin-looking buildings, draenei simply scavenge from whatever's around them and Nelf villages have a bunch of nature shit on them and hollow trees and shit.
I must agree on everything else tho
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>>318202215
>Muradin doesn't know how to be king.

Strange considering he sent 10 years or so as king of the Frostborn in Northrend.

Muradin is definitely better off being some sort of front line fighter/explorer.
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>no qt blood elf girl warchief to surround with big, hung orcs

why even live
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>>318202313
Aren't goldin DKs supposed to be Steamwheedle?
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>>318202372
King of the frostborn is a fucking meaningless title, though. There's like a dozen of them and they don't even build houses.
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>>318200063
yeah but hes kicking the bucket, which is gonna be a way for blizzard to re-humanize Sylvanas a bit.

>right now shes all about muh preservation
>she'll be Warchief while Vol'jin is missing and then she'll start shit with the worgon on the broken isles while they're supposed to be cooperating
>her champion and old lover/pupil gets killed by alliance dogs


she'll realize she still cares and can't fully abandon her people for her own protection.

plus it will bring the lore peace pact to a head and end it as the worgen and forsaken try to wipe each other out, dragging the factions back into war.

We always have to have a tentative peace treaty in the 'lore' bc [X expansion] is the greatest threat we've ever faced before, and we can only beat it together.

But we obviously still have pvp so its whittled down at the launch.
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Blizzard is the worst publisher in the industry. Not even Bethesda shit this hard on the fans of the Elder Scrolls/Fallout games.

You have to be a special kind of retard to be playing these games. None of you better even be considering buying Legion or any ActiBlizzard product despite what the OP shill says.
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>>318202365
Humans honestly probably shouldn't be the richest and most powerful, all things considered. Think about all the shit that's gone down with them. They lost like, how many kingdoms? They've been in how many wars?

Stormwind should be a refugee-filled hellhole with its people barely clinging together due to having half a dozen wars happen back to back to back.
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>>318189926
Wait, when did this bitch come back again?
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>>318202515

I bought it once it was available at Blizzcon
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>>318202727
Cool. Fuck off retard.
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>a claim to Undercity
Who cares? There is zero chance Blizzard does something cool like a race losing its home and gaining a new one.
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ITS BROX!
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>>318202515
older games are an absolute fucking scam, I swear Starcraft is still sold for full price on Blizz's store
>DID SOMEONE SAY "PIRATING"?!?!?
I actually am interested in Legion tho, I've got money to throw away on useless shit so might as well give it a go
As time goes on I realised that your point was correct, but I still play the game because I simply have fun doing it and I didn't spend 7 years of my time playing it to drop it just like that
It's going to take some SERIOUS shit for me to drop this game, as bad as it might be right now
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>>318193402
Don't worry, eventually she will be a raid boss because only important Horde characters can be evil and be raid bosses.
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>>318202945
Sylvanas also raised Alonsus Faol as a Forsaken.
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>>318203015
literally who
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>>318203042
Founder of the Silver Hand and trained Uther.
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Putress did nothing wrong.
Death to the Living!
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>>318202989
People like you are the reason Blizzard thinks this shit is okay.
>My standards are too low to stop giving retards money, but it's okay because I'm having fun
Just fucking sell your Battle.net and move on like a reasonable human being.
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>>318202882
Remember patch 5.1?

I swear it was the coolest fucking patch story-wise the game's ever had. You, the player, actually got to participate and see a civil war in Dalaran, and have it switch factions.

Then the city just disappeared from lore completely for an expansion and a half, and then finally it comes back neutral, defeating the entire purpose of that plot point.
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>>318201915
>Stormwind getting wrecked or invaded EVERY expansion
>every single expansion humans lose more territory
>no Southshore
>no Stonetalon
>no Theramore
>King Varian is dead
>Magni Bronzebeard stuck in limbo
>Genn Graymane written out of the story
>Tyrande Whisperwind a complete shit
>Anduin Wrynn going to get corrupted
>Mekkatorque barely exists in the lore
>Gnomeregan will never be a real city despite the trolls getting cool islands

Y-yeah, being Alliance human is great.
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>>318203042
Literally the pope during the First War and the guy who created Paladins you ignorant twat.
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>>318202480

Dunno, never made a goblin dk. Do they cover that in the starter quest for them where you have to kill a goblin?
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>>318203221
Wow, sorry I haven't spent enough time of wowwiki
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>>318202639

Humans mainted Stormwind's relative prosperity by banishing the refugees to Westfall.

Westfall has become a Azeroth's version of Detroit since then.
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>2015
>people still misspell SYLVANAS
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>>318203204
>no Theramore

Remember how this was supposed to be a rallying cry for the Alliance? We gonna get something good in return for losing it?

Remind me, what did the Alliance get? Cause it's not Dalaran anymore.
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>>318202639
Well they're obviously richer than fucking Gnomeregan, shouldn't they technically be broke?
Dwarves are actually good competitors for the title of richest tho, good point
nelfs spend way too much on fighting the Horde on Kalimdor and anyways they're nelfs, where do they get money from?
Gilneas should be on the same level as Gnomeregan: fucked and poor.
Draenei, just like Nelves: Where the hell would they get money from? and there should be some finite amount of them (lore-wise) because all of them literally are just refugees from the Exodar.
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>>318200063
well unless Nathanos can get a new head this time he's kicking the bucket for good, apperently Graymane used a big ass rifle and blew his head off.

He also forces Slyvanas to use one of her valkyire 1-Ups before taking enough black arrows to the face that he has to back off.
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>>318203015

>Faol literally died of old age

How many important lore figures can you say that about?
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>>318203389

I'm doing the Westfall story on a new Mage right now.

I wouldn't compare it to Detroit. It's more like the Midwest when the Dustbowl hit and everyone's homes were taken away by the banks.
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>>318203390
What do you mean? Sylvanus is the undead elf allied to the orcs of Ogrimmar.
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>>318203451

Night Elves make money because they essentially control all trade in northen kalimdor.
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>>318203451
>Dwarves are actually good competitors for the title of richest tho, good point

See that's the impression I got in Vanilla. Ironforge was the defacto capital, basically. You looked around, and they were the ones with tanks, planes, a fucking airfield. Hell, they were the only ones with an auction house.
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>>318203565

Yeah Detroit may be a bit of an exaggeration. But you get my point. Its a shit hole. But hey, maybe the hobos will colonize and turn Westfall into a semi-decent area with time
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>>318201915
Or Gnomes.
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>>318203683
They even traded with the orcs - Stopping that trade is what made Garrosh invade Ashenvale or something.
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>>318202945

Why is Brox back?
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>>318203778

Nah, the majority of them joined the Neo-Brotherhood and you killed them in the Deadmines.

So you fixed the crime problem and the poverty problem in one swoop
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>>318203182
I know, anon. and I'm not proud of the fact.
I just can't let go.
A little part inside of me, which has known this game for so long, is just holding tight to a little itty tiny bit of hope that tells it that WoW will become what it was when I first joined again.
And I hate that.
Because it will never be.
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>>318203836
This expansion has artifacts, Demon Hunters, Emerald Dream, everything people have always been vocal about how it would be sweet to have.

Broxigar is one of those things.
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>>318203860
Play Nostalrious and stop making up excuses.
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>>318203836
the warrior class hall is literally Valhala, decent chance there's a few ghosts of past warriors walking around
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>>318203926
>a game that literally goes nowhere
might as well just replay WC3 over and over
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>>318203913
Blizzard are so desperate it's pathetic. Instead of getting a proper expansion we're just getting another cluster fuck of garbage and re-hashed ideas.

Dropped this for XIV. Best decision I've ever made.
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>>318203913
>>318203992

Can you get his sweet wooden axe?
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>>318202071
There are worgen in Grizzly Hills. That's where the Worgen dk come from.
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>>318203926
But it's not the same.
The reason I hate that little bit of hope is because it's base off nostalgia. Unless I get an opportunity to travel back to 2007 and delete all my memories of WoW, and started fresh, then yeah, that'd be great.
But as old and vanilla-y as Nostalrius might be, it's not the same.
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>>318203852

Well all right then.

So Westfall is gonna slowly go back to being a farmland that ridiculous dangerous for farm land

Duskwood continues to be haunted as fuck

And Deadwind Pass is still "Just dont fucking go there" territory.

Why did Elwyn Forest end up so nice surrounded by such crappy places?
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>>318201915
>Anduin
>Alliance Hero
BWAHAHAHAHA
He allowed Garrosh to do more thing than his dad.
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>>318204091
See now that would of been an interesting artifact weapon for Arms, instead of Generic Greatsword #75204.
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>>318203926
no thanks i've my fair share of grinding every single potion in existence to go anywhere in pve, and spending entire days in WSG and AV to be able to go anywhere in pvp
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>>318203926
>wanting to play easily the worst version of the game
>wanting to play an extremely bugged emulation of the worst version of the game
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>>318203926

Not him but FUCK THAT

I hated Vanilla WoW with a passion even when it was new. It was clunky, it was buggy, everything took fucking forever to do, and the only fun thing about it, old Alterac Valley, got gutted within Vanilla itself. The only reason I played was because I was 18 when Vanilla came out so my mother was the one who paid for the subscription.

I didn't have actual fun with WoW until BC came around, and even I remember some serious unfun times with that

>Heroic daily is Mechanar
>mfw
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>>318203836
hes going to get corrupted
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>>318204204
He's directly responsible for everything that happened in wod
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>>318204237
I hated Arcatraz and Shadow Labs more, Mechanar was always a breeze
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>>318203204
>Anduin Wrynn going to get corrupted
Velen literally fucking said he is the choosen one.

And ally literally kicked in Orgrimmar's door and fucked shit up.
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>>318201909
>>318202071
>>318204132

Timing isnt the issue with Worgen DK's

Its supposed to be the fact that Worgen are immune to undeath. The whole "Shapeshifting nature power" thing.

Same reason why theres never any "Undead Druids".
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>>318201147

What makes that gif even more pathetic is modern dungeons are typically three room long zerg fests.
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>>318203498
>Greymane is an Outlaw Rogue

pretty cool tbhh
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>Deathwing destroys the Park in Stormwind and scorches the entrance
>"np lol, let it burn for 2 years"
>Horde bombs Theramore
>"rargh. horde,what the hell man xD let me jus... let me... lemme dye my hair white and... be angry and don't do a thing"
>"except youstupid... horde get out of my new town... shoo"
>Khadgar: "Jaina stop.
>Jaina: k xD
>Iron horde destroys nethergarde keep
>"yah but horde lost taurajo, is real important"
>every expac new warchief important too
>alliance? yah, your king dies, and everyone not named malfurion and thrall is a weak shit
>so fuck you alliance

I hate neo blizzard
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>>318204059
>dropped WoD for WoD: FF edition

top lmao
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>>318201915

>The last time Tauren had plot attached to them, their leader died, one of their peaceful hunting camps got burnt to the ground, and they had to put up a wall to stop people fucking with them

Why do they bully the innocent cowfolk
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>>318203202
New Blizzard is way too safe.

In a hypothetical situation, If Genn and the Alliance kicked the Forsaken out of Lordaeron where should they place their new home? I think having them move to Northrend would be pretty sick, atleast get a race that isn't on the two main continents.
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>>318204470
>Game has actual content updates
>Doesn't look like garbage
>Devs actually care about the game and don't make up excuses

Japs once again proving they can provide much better quality than washed-up western devs.
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>>318204352
>And ally literally kicked in Orgrimmar's door and fucked shit up.

What'd they fuck up? Cause Garrosh got away and he's the reason WoD even happened. Hell, Thrall got the final kill on him too, so they didn't even get that.

Org itself didn't get wrecked, while meanwhile Stormwind is still literally on fire.
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>>318204216
That axe is literally the most powerful weapon in wacraft lore.

LITERALLY.

I'm actually glad it's not.
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>>318204540
Yeah bolvar would probably let them chill in Icecrown
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>>318204431
Greymane has always been some kind of Hunter/Warrior combo. Typically uses his gun when he is in Human form, and his sword when he goes Worgen.

And I guess sometimes he just goes completely feral and uses only his claws for full RIP AND TEAR. Which apparently might happen when he fights Slyvanas.
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>you will never get a Horde led by Cairne

It all could have been so different.

fuck you blizzard.
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>>318190573
its just human female model # 12 you dumb nigger
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>>318199690
Pretty much this. Most of the story stuff that SHOULD happen simple can't because of gameplay.

Forsaken shopudl of been wiped out. horde dismantled, dranei and orcs sent back to their broken world, gones actually gettting their city back, yada yada yada.

Game causes the story to crap out cause it causes player problems.

Of course if they had the guts to go thru with most of the things they should of then you'd have an online game that truely changed over the years.
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>>318204628
I actually don't think it's much more powerful then Ashbringer or Doomhammer
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>>318204540
Northrend would basically be the perfect place for them if they wanted to get out of the Eastern Kingdoms. Who the fuck even lives there anymore besides Bolvar? Dalaran's gone.
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>>318204626
Killed a lot of high ranking horde leaders as well as a lot of skilled Orc's. Most of whom weren't necessarily loyal to garry, but the horde.
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>>318204631
What about the part where Bolvar asked Tirion to keep secrecy about what happened to him?

As far as Azeroth knows, the scourge are feral and leaderless.
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>>318204626

Wasnt it a Bronze dragon that let Garrosh out? If anything its the Panda's fault that WoD happened. Alliance wanted to execute, Thrall wanted to execute. Pandas wanted him to stand trial for some reason
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>>318191441
how did people not just straight up drop this after cataclysm

that xpac was pure shit.
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>>318204846
There's probably still rednecks in the grizzly hills.

And a shitload of Vrykul.
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This expansion is giving us Tauren and Undead Lore for Horde

Night Elf, Worgen, and Human lore for Alliance


Just need Dwarf and Troll lore again tbhh
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>>318204352
>And ally literally kicked in Orgrimmar's door and fucked shit up.
Yeah, and so did the horde.
SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY FUCKING MATTER NOW DOES IT?
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>>318204846

Grizzly hills is still inhabited by lots of humans. Not sure if they're still worgen though.
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>>318204970

We'll probably get more lore when we find out why Vol'jin is missing (likely something to do with the Zandalari).
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>>318204828

Broxigar's axe brought harm to the most powerful being in the Warcraft universe.

Granted all it did was make a little cut on his leg, but when he's a mountain-sized god that destroys worlds, that's still impressive.
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>>318204631
you mean yogg-saron would probably let them chill in icecrown
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>>318204970

Fuck trolls

Dumb jungle/forest/sand/snow niggers get in every expansion in some way shape or form. And their dumb shit gets them killed in every expansion
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>>318204828
What's so special about Doomhammer? I honestly don't know, I thought Thrall only carried it around to carry on Orgim's will.

Also Ashbringer's special properties only works on undead no? Wouldn't it work like an normal blade against anything that isn't specially effected by the light?

Broxigar's axe is extremely light and indestructible. Which is what puts it above anything else for demon slaying.
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>>318205051
watch him try to resummon Hakkar, only for it to backfire spectacularly
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>>318204916
I'm not blaming the Horde or Alliance on anything here, I'm just saying, there were basically no gains from SoO, especially considering this was supposed to be a cool moment for the Alliance.

I mean was the win that Alliance killed a couple of B-tier NPCs? I'll take Theramore back for those, thanks.

And it's not like Dalaran is Alliance anymore, so people can't tout that.
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>>318191178
>>318191762
>>318193402
Remember when Undercity rebelled up against Sylvanas?
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>>318205209
>general of the Horde army
>B-tier NPC
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