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>buy computer to play vidya
>everything fucking lags and some games don't even work
>can only play Age of Empires
>friend tells me I need to buy a 3D graphics card
>shit I didn't know you would need to buy extra stuffs just to play vidya
>get my PC to the nearest computer store
>buy a Geforce 4 mx440 64Mb
>get it installed
>all my games look incredible and smooth as fuck holy shit
>play Medal of Honor and C&C Generals all weekend
>walk pass the store from where I bough my VGA
>see same VGA but with 128MB also twice as expensive
>ask the guy what's the difference
>your games will run better with this one
>HOLY SHIT
>bring my computer back
>get that bad boy installed
>everything looks exactly the same
>the ATi Radeon 9700pro was out at the time
So, any retarded things you've done when building a gayming PC /v/?
Let's hear them.
>>317707724
>bought an expensive soundcard and gaming headphones
>everything sounds the same as before on cheep phones and integrated card
>>317707724
>buy gtx 970
>3.5gb
>>317707856
>soundcard in the year 2015
LOL
>>317707993
I have no regrets.
>>317707993
By the time you reach 3.5 you are already having shit performance. This is the shittiest meme.
>>317708025
High end headsets and speakers need a soundcard you retarded mong.
>>317708092
>vram usage = lower performance
God I wish neo-/v/ would just all be rounded up and gassed to death.
>finally have the money to build a PC after years of using cannibalized prebuilts
>put all the parts together and hook up all the power cables
>turn on
>LOL CPU TEMP 99C EAT SHIT
>open case and check the cooler (stock because I hadn't thought to go aftermarket at the time)
>remove the cooler and rotate 90 degrees clockwise
>suddenly CPU temp drops to 25C
Then I found out months later that I forgot to install the USB 3.0 drivers for the motherboard.
>>317708167
I think he means by the time you reach the 3.5gb vram usage, you'd already be basically maxing out the card to begin with
>>317708106
Lmao. Get keked by sound card companies. How fucking out of touch with tech are you? Why would you ever buy an internal solution for sound instead of a dap if you are truly an audiophile?
>>317708235
>>317708235
just shut up already, you know nothing
When I was a kid I built two PCs out of junk parts so that my friends could come around and we could all play Counter-Strike. The things had tiny hard drives that were already ten years old at the time, they could barely just fit an OS and the game on them, they got shitty framerates in software mode and one of them didn't even have a case, but hey, they worked.
>>317708235
Of course, considering it only has 3.5gb of VRAM.
Nearing 75% performance should NOT bog down anything. Most hardware is performing optimally at around 85 - sometimes 90 - percent. Any more or less than that and you're lacking efficiency.
>>317708460
fuck you
>two times 64 is 128
>>317708494
>Nearing 75% performance should NOT bog down anything.
>Most hardware is performing optimally at around 85 - sometimes 90 - percent. Any more or less than that and you're lacking efficiency.
What are you even blabbering about? VRAM usage isn't uniform across games, it's not even a direct metric for anything performance related.
>>317708494
>try to run 4k with the power of a gtx but unlimited vram
>get 10 fps
WOW
>>317708494
Is this what happens when a consoletard talks about pc stuff?
>buy gtx970
>buy 144hz 2K displayfuture proofed display, i guess
>>317708749
I'm "babbling" about the fact that hardware performs optimally at "85-90%". Are you having trouble reading, anon?
The extra 10% gives you plenty of wiggle-room (and in some cases, especially with hard drives, you can start seeing really weird errors if you're consistently at ~95%). If you're anything less than 85-90% then you're obviously overkill in that particular regard.
>>317708883
Feel free to educate yourself before you reply to me. Thanks.
>>317708747
64 x 24 = 1536
>>317708106
>High end headsets and speakers need a soundcard you retarded mong.
I almost died laughing just now. Good one.
>>317709042
The mind of a retard truly is a thing to behold.
>>317709042
>This guy
>consider building PC
>get massive anxiety over the idea
>decide not to
Good day!
>>317709042
You're retarded m8.
>>317709042
That shit doesnt matter in the slightest. What matters is how shit fps youll have being anywhere near the 3.5 vram point. Its very rare horribly optimized conslole ports that break this trend.
>>317709042
this guy. sorry to break it to ya buddy but... you're a dumbass. tough
>>317708025
You mad?
>>317709156
>gaming headphones
there's the problem not the soundcard, you're just a retard with shitty hearing.
>decide to build PC
>can't afford jewtel and don't want a bottleneck gpu
>end up with a bottleneck cpu
and the shittiest part is that I'll have to buy a new mobo and cooler if I decide to upgrade
I built a new rig the other week there, 980 ti with 6600k. It was only my second build, so I'm still pretty inexperienced with it.
>mfw monitors wont work
>mfw try x100000 different things off google for like 4 hours
>smarter, more tech savvy friend solves it in <10 minutes, all I had to do was change the boot preferences to the GPU
Pic related, me the entire time. Shit is stressful, think I'm going to just buy a custom build next time, not sure I want to deal with that shit again.
>tfw silky smooth 100+ fps in practically every game now though.
>>317708461
Sounds like fun
>build a PC
>every time there is a graphic or sound glitch in the games I think it's my computer dying
>freak out for weeks
>it happens again
>keep freaking out
Having a PC is a fucking nightmare. Now you're constantly thinking about if it is well ventilated or if it doesn't have dust inside. Oh what if there is an electric failure, checking the temps every 15 minutes. I can't fucking do this shit.
>>317709608
>he paid upwards of 80 dollars bare minimum for this waste of money
>"You mad?"
That's fucking hilarious.
>>317709350
There are places that will make it for you. You specify the parts and that's it. No stress. Normally they don't charge you -that- much more for labour charges either.
>>317709626
PC building is a giant money pit. You either spend like 1500 for real quality or spend like 800 for watered down shit barely better than what you would have got for half the price, and then needing to upgrade in a year because your motherboard doesn't support the the newer CPUs
>>317709652
Pretty much my experience. Next time I'll either buy prebuilt or pay bestbuy 50 bucks to put the shit together for me
>>317709740
You don't actually do this, stop acting retarded
>>317709740
You have OCD.
Not even joking
One time I bought 16gb of RAM and then I found out that that's too much. That sure was embarrassing!
>>317709756
I bet you have a 2-speak setup, no digital anything, and a sub 600 ohm pair of headphones. Of course Audio quality wouldn't matter to you and your built in laptop speakers.
> build pc
> put ram chips bext to each other on mobo
> computer wont start up
> mobo that /g/ suggested has digital read out, code indicates problem with ram chips
> turns out I had to put ram in alternating slots, not right next to each other
The end
>>317709624
Sorry to break it to you, but you're actually the retard here. You don't understand even the first thing about electronic interference, because if you did, you'd realize that buying an internal sound card is literally no different than just using on-board sound. But don't let this stop you from trying to argue with me. I find it incredibly amusing to see someone who is blatantly wrong trying their hardest to argue their wrong points, all the while calling everyone else retarded. It's great entertainment.
this thread is amazing, keep posting
>>317709776
This implies I need to buy their parts, which means I would not at all get a good deal and end up paying atleast 2-300 more.
And the stress exists in picking the parts as well, not just the building.
>>317710038
Where else are you supposed to put a sound card?
USB that is prone to even worse interference and fails to work half the time?
>>317709865
>you don't actually do this
Not him, but as someone who actually suffers from real OCD, that is something people with OCD do. Daily.
>>317709801
>implying you can't get decent quality for $800
I guess maybe if you live in Canada or the UK or some other hellhole where PC parts cost more than prebuilts.
What has /v/ become
>>317710027
You could have the best headphones on the market and you would notice absolutely no difference between your onboard sound (provided you got decent onboard sound) and a 200 dollar sound card. You can go ahead and continue to argue, but the more you argue against this the dumber you look. You can't into electrical interference.
>>317709801
Why are you upgrading your cpu after only 1 year? I built my computer 4 years ago for $750 and I can run fallout 4 1920x1080 @ medium settings with only 1gb of vram just fine.
>>317709801
>PC building
that's the problem, some people simply enjoy building computers but not gaming, my 600€ can play witcher 3 at 60fps without issues. Meanwhile my friends spend hundreds of euros every year to get over 100 FPS and they barely play 4 hours a week.
>>317710129
you buckle easily under stress, huh?
>>317707856
>gaming headphones
This was your mistake
>>317710129
>And the stress exists in picking the parts as well, not just building
Can't say I experienced that, thats the easiest part of the process. My sweating occurs when I'm installing and having to handle the parts, particularly the CPU cooler (especially when its sizable). And then afterwards if theres any problems - I'm technical enough that I can get along, but the majority of issues I've got no idea how to solve which means spending ages on google or begging smarter friends to help.
>>317709652
Kek, I did the same thing on my first build in highschool.
>Get everything perfect, no help aside from the manuals.
>Feeling proud as a lion that has a silky smooth mane and 10 mating partners.
>Monitors not working.
>Turn everything off, take everything apart.
>Put it back together, no changes.
>Do this three times.
>Remember that BIOS are a thing.
>Smash head into desk a few times.
>>317710226
Show me. No really, do it. Outside of BF deals, I have been using pc part picker, logical increments etc and cannot put together a decent PC that can run all/most things at high 1080 60 fps for less than a grand.
>buy CPU
>never changed CPU before so nervous
>nightmare images of bent pins in my head
>take old CPU out
>put new CPU in
>paste it up and lock it down
>turn on PC
>PC won't turn on
>start troubleshooting
>eventually find out my motherboard doesn't support the new CPU
>buy new motherboard
>accidentally ordered the wrong size (got a half-case sized mobo)
>send it back and order another one
>right size but doesn't align with the rear panel
>can't fit the faceplate in so I just leave it open
>reassemble my entire computer bit by bit
>turn it on
>it works
You don't need to be smart to upgrade a PC, just determined.
>spend over £800 on first build
>money I earned during a summer working some shit min wage job
>parts finally come
>putting it together watching tutorials on my phone
>takes a whole afternoon
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
>put everything together
>looks correct
>plug monitor, keyboard in etc
>finally pc gaming
>press on button
>nothing
>start shitting myself
>press it again
>nothing
>oh fug
>start panicking
>take build apart, double check everything is in its right place
>plug monitor and stuff back in
>press on button
>nothing
>what the fuck
>look down at my feet
>wasn't turned on at the mains
>laugh in relief, what an idiot I am
>turn the mains switch on
>press on button
>nothing
>panic resumes
>take build apart, put it back together
>about 1 in the morning now, I started about 3pm
>everything back together, mains switch on
>press on button
>nothing
>almost in tears at this point, emotionally exhausted
>look round the back to unplug the PSU in order to take build apart again
>realise the PSU was never switched on
>mfw
>>317710061
>be like 12
>for some reason all my elementary friends think I know shit about computers
>classmate tells me he has a problem with his 486 DX machine
>it was a soundcard or something, can't play Fallout 2 with no sound
>tell him I'll fix it no problem like a boss
>get to his house, we're alone there
>try installing drivers, it's the only thing I have any idea about
>doesn't help, can't admit defeat
>try wiggling the card around
>no luck
>d-don't worry anon I have an idea
>take card out
>turn computer on
>put card in
>it shuts down, a bit of smoke
>doesn't turn on again
>S-see you in class anon!
>bolt it out of there
>>317710247
Because I need to?
>>317710316
I use DJ headphones myself, its also an excuse for not having a mic.
>>317710296
Incredibly so.
I go to therapy to deal with it.
>>317710349
>thats the easiest part of the process
For some of the parts. Other parts it's a nightmare. Especially if you want to get a good deal
Unfortunately good deals in the PC component world don't exist since everyone uses the backwards jackoffery that is mail in rebates.
>>317710398
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
holy shit i did the same.
When was the last time you treated your PC to a nice upgrade?
>>317707724
>building first pc
>everything is going well
>cable from mobo not going into port on back of DVD drive
>remember advice from IT friend "you don't have to be too gentle, sometimes you need to apply some force"
>apply force
>broken DVD drive
Turns out I was inserting the cable upside down or something, I'm just glad I fucked up the cheapest component.
>>317710237
I get it. You're not an audiophile and you can't tell the difference between a telephone speaker and well resined catgut in an auditorium. I know your ears have no level of sensitivity but some of us are a bit higher on the evolutionary ladder.
Let's be honest, you're basically a consolefag.
>>317710371
i5 2500k
GTX 760
8gb DDR3 RAM
1tb 7200rpm Seagate HDD
Hyper 212 EVO cooler
Beyond that, buy whatever else floats your boat. I've been using this setup for years and it has yet to fail to get me 1080p/60fps with the exception of Arkham Knight, though I used the pre-patch pirate version.
>>317710038
electronic interference is a thing but the fact that good sound card USB or what ever will improve the sound so it is different from the on-boards sound. You can go fuck right off and stick you head up your deaf head ass. I'm am truly sorry if you have bad hearing.
>>317710398
>touching radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
Holy shit dude me too. All I heard from my friend was
>Watch out for that static bro
>Careful with the static man
>THE STATIC BRO WATCH THE STATIC
It didn't help I was building iton my carpet because nowhere else to. The rest of my experience wasn't too exciting though besides my hands constantly being sweaty
>mfw the entire time building
>buy headphones, finally ditch speakers
>"man this is so amazing, now I can listen and play anything without my family bitching about the loud explosions"
>"this is so much better"
>years of fun later
>"man these headphones sure are old and dirty now, better buy a new set
>buy new set, same brand, same type, same box, same everything
>sound feels dull and distant and weird compared to the old ones
Is it possible that my old headphones got fucked over in time and now they're the only one I'm accustomed using?
What the heck am I gonna do when they finally break down.
>>317710735
No offense but this looks like trash, doesn't even meet the min requirements of a lot of games, and doesn't factor in several other parts you need such as case and mobo which are also pricey
>>317710540
well, i hope you get better then.
>>317710862
>building it on the carpet
mate that is Evel Knievel levels of madness
>>317710398
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
tfw long as fuck hair and I do this all the time
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qvM96h
Rate my build /V/
>>317709652
I just ordered a custom build PC with a 980 6600k, might arrive friday.
>mfw using shitty toshiba tv as a monior
>Get an absolute SHIT pc, makes counterstrike look like minecraft, no exaggeration.
>Play games at LAN Cafe, see 60fps and high quality graphics
>Get video card for shit PC for birthday
I forget which one but it was prob like $200
>install in my computer, get nothing
I think in retrospect now I didn't have a PSU strong enough to run it, and I never trouble shooted it because I was a dumb kid.
>>317710038
what about EMI? It can be reduced and all it does is crackling and hissing. I don't see how it reduces the sound quality on a good sound card if you shield against it.
>buy computer parts
>stock CPU cooler makes a lot of noise
>70ºC on desktop
>SHIT
>go fucking nuts and buy a new cooler
>because of cheap case there isnt much space for new cooler
>install it without removing any pieces or cables
>dont have enough space to operate
>finally it is on place and locked
>watch my hand full of blood
>there is blood everywhere
>clean it, cross my fingers and press the power button
>it fucking works
>CPU 40ºC
>>317709801
My current PC:
4 years old i5-3570, still don't see any reason to upgrade it
4 years old mother board with 16 gb of DDR3 memory, upgrade isn't worth the cost
4 years hd7850 graphics card, considering to change to r9 380
6 years old chassis and 500w PSU
some 5 years old 500GB mechanical HDDs.
Didn't cost me more than $700 and runs fallout 4 at stable ~55 FPS on1280x720, I don't see any reason to be running it at higher res since it doesn't look any better when I'm streaming it
>>317710975
You do realize that most "minimum requirements" are inflated to push more pricey parts, right?
As for case, there are plenty of cheap models that offer decent space and airflow, and for mobos you mostly just need one that fits your CPU socket, not the most expensive ones.
>>317711138
Thanks for proving what I stated.
>install new graphics card
>plug everything in
>turn PC on
>everything looks weird and zoomed in
>must be new GPU underscanning
>go into CCC
>doesn't change anything
>try loads of online solutions, nothing works
>what the fuck
>assume new GPU is broken
>go to unplug everything to uninstall it and send it back
>had my HDMI plugged into the motherboard
>build multiple gaming PCs over the years
>keep buying graphics cards whose fans eventually start rattling and failing and which don't have replacements available because there are no standardized graphics card fan sizes
Even though I swore to myself to buy a third party GPU cooler that can mount standard 120mm fans this time, I bought a regular OC graphics card again at the beginning of the year, and the fans already rattle on load.
>>317711042
its shit
>>317708461
this is an awesome story. i like it.
>>317710961
Buying new headphones is awful for me. Almost as bad as getting a haircut.
Putting a PC together is fairly easy enough, the only part I really hate is case wiring. And installing coolers is a bitch.
>order a BenQ 1440p@60Hz screen
>they ship the wrong model and it's a more expensive 1440p@144Hz one
>plug it in
>spend the next 3 hours dragging windows around on my desktop and scrolling fast on websites because it's so silky smooth and great
They never called and asked for it back.
>>317711247
Isn't that just the dust accumulating under the fans? I had the same problem with my old card and solved it by applying some soft oil on the juncture between it and the fans. Rattling disappeared.
>buy supplies
>living on own, but really want to drop on this build
>parts come in, extra careful
>everything set in place
>hit power button
>it doesn't turn on
>hit it again after a while
>nothing>the power supply wasn't on
>>317711267
>says it shit with no evidence why
Pls
>Build PC for the first time
>Slice my palm open due to the sharp edges of the Mobo due to lack of experience with happening
>Blood spurts all over my components
>PC boots up on my first try putting it together>I learnt that virgin blood ritual is good for PC building
>>317711408
>spoonfeed me
>people afraid of static
lol
>mobo has a preinstalled cooler holder thing
>almost broke mobo in half while trying to take it off
>ram wouldn't fit in completely until I pressed it so hard mobo made a *CRACK* sound (and suffered 0 damage)
>accidentaly plugged HDD in SATA2 instead of 1 so I couldn't install OS for quite a while until I decided to poke around the cables
>can't do cable management because case limitations so had to gently tuck cables away from the radiator
>cooler broke after less than a day working (it works perfectly but it makes horrible sounds)
holy shit the fun I had
>>317711060
Waiting for same parts to arrive, but I'm using an old as fuckGateway monitor
>>317710862
Hate to sound like a normie, but your post made my day. Thanks m8.
>>317711239
>install new graphics card
>replace thermal paste on CPU while I'm at it
>plug everything in
>turn PC on
>no picture
>check motherboard
>RAM error LED blinks
>replug everything, no fix
>reinsert old graphics card, no fix
>after hours of research on tablet find some forum post saying to reseat the CPU and reattach the CPU cooler
>problem fixed
>read somewhere afterwards that if you tighten the CPU cooler too far on this particular model of mainboard, the RAM looses contact by a fraction of a millimeter
>Installing heatsink
>Lose a mounting screw from the box
>LOL whatever 3/4 screws is fine
>Try to complete mount
>Turn PC upright
>Heatsink falls over. Breaks thermal paste connection
>Spent days looking for the lost screw
>Needed to order more thermal paste
>>317710184
>>317710753
If you were smart you wouldn't have wasted your money on a sound card that provides zero difference from onboard sound. If you knew how electronic interference worked, you'd realize that sound cards are snake oil. They're still situated right in the middle of an electronic interference factory. No amount of shielding will eliminate interference. Literally, yes, your best bet is an external USB 3.0 DAC plugged into the front panel of your tower. It will still have electronic interference, there's no escaping that, but it will be barely noticeable if you buy a good one and set it up about a foot away from your tower. If you're going to spend 100+ dollars on some doohickey that cleans your sound, you should at least buy the one that actually works. Literally, you guys are the deaf ones here.
>>317710684
If you were a true audiophile, and not just some dumbshit pleb who got tricked into buying an internal sound card and is now coming here to shitpost about it because of your buyer's remorse, you would have bought a high quality external DAC and set it up properly. But nah, you're a pleb, and also a shitposter. Can't wait to hear your next sad excuse for an argument.
>>317711453
>seat mainboard into case -before- attaching the CPU cooler
>can't attach CPU cooler anymore
>seat mainboard into case -after- attaching the CPU cooler
>slice open your fingers in a striped pattern from the individual fins of the CPU cooler during fixing the mainboard screws and attaching various tiny cables in impossible places.
>>317711239
>AMD
>>317711138
>bought a cheap PC from a friend of my moms for 100€
>buy a cheap GPU for it
>year later upgrade the power supply and GPU to GTX650 for 150€ or something
>year later upgrade MOBO, CPU and RAM for 180€
>2 years later still run everything I want on medium 1080p/60fps
I don't see a reason to upgrade for years to come because I hardly even play AAA shit
>Pc doesn't boot
>check RAM
>check Mobo
>check power adaptator
>check everything
>dismantle it, clean everything
>check everything again
>surgically remove one piece at a time to see where the problem is
>unplug HD, both
>check power to see if it runs through, it does
>try everything possible
>pc still doesn't startThe start button was broken.
>buy computer components
>assemble everything laid out on desk to install software already because the case would arrive late
>end up accidentally dropping a screwdriver into the power supply fan, breaking off a wing and making it unstable, shaking the entire power supply, and the fan was some weird 135 mm format that you couldn't replace and you were afraid of your power supply not booting if you cut the fan cable so in the end you had to fix it in place with duct tape and then tape a case fan to the outside of the power supply
I'm curious, how many of you have melted a CPU or GPU by overclocking it?
>>317711170
That's awful advice. If you get a cheap shit mobo you're going to find yourself up shit creak in 2-3 years when you want to upgrade your CPU or basically anything. Buying some 150 mobo will save you having to buy another 80 dollar one in 2 years. I'd sooner buy a shitty GPU
>>317710862
>Building first computer after using a pre-built for years
>poured months of savings into it
>all the parts arrive, admiring those shiny ass boxes
>slowly and carefully begin assembling
>turns on first time
>begin applauding
>install OS
>plug in old harddrive
>everything is corrupt
my day was still ruined
I still use an x-fi 5.1 external card from creative even though onboard sound is all built in now. I just like the little bastard
>>317711816
I actually know this feel
>build first pc
>reuse old case from prebuilt
>I'm retarded so mobo is too big to fit with the psu in it's proper place
>velcro the psu down in the front end of the case and run the cable out through hole where the back of the psu is supposed to bethis just happened days ago actually, what could go wrong.
>>317711816
>Not checking that first by jumping the connectors on the mobo
Come on man. Every booting issue comes down to a few things. It is when your computer refuses to POST then it is an actual headache.
>>317711456
Hello 2014 summerfriend
>bought an exepnsive gaming pc
>2 months living from oatmeal
>get those vitamine deficiency signs people talk about
Worth to be honest lad
>get all the parts for my current pc delivered in 2011 (i5 2500k, 8gb ram, no gpu for now)
>put it all together in a CM 690 II Advanced case
>do light cable management right away so i don't have to unplug stuff when tightening it down later
>hit power, nothing happens
>ugh wtf!
>take a look inside, everything seems to be in order
>carry it to another outlet, plug it in, hit power, it boots up
>wtf man?
>carry it to the room that it's gonna be in for good, plug it in, hit power, no boot
>great
>get extension cord, plug it into next outlet a few meters away, it boots
>weird what it happening here?
>less that 1 year later psu doesn't want to start up unless the its' own power switch in the back gets flipped on and off repeatedly
>too annoying to deal with, get it replaced cause 7 year warranty
>replacement unit lasts less than 6 months, thx corsair, premium quality my ass
>say fuck them, don't rma'ing that shit & buy a different brand
>everything is back to normal
thanks again and fuck you very much corsair, never again
also
>same pc
>sound cuts out for ~1sec at random intervals
>try to ignore it for the longest time
>rage builds up when listening to music
>grrr no fuck this
>unplug pc case's internal connector for the front audio jacks
>sound never ever cuts out again
>everything went better than expected
still don't know whether to blame the mobo or the case wiring
>Buy new DDR
>Set it up
>Hit power button
>Sparks and a bit of smoke coming from the motherboard
>There was a gap in between the slot and one of the DDRs
>4 contacts ded
[/spoiler]>Still managed to set it up properly and it still works though system's loading times takes forever even without any memory-heavy processes set on start[/spoiler]
>>317708106
Don't even bother m8 it's a waste of time trying to explain it to people like that.
>>317711651
>tfw 6i6 for small time demoing and general fooling around
>using it for game sounds also
no regrets
>spent hours putting pc together
>drop gpu on the edge of the case
>small chip into the part that you insert into the mobo
>works fine
>>317711883
Most CPU and GPU have sensors that automatically switch the component off when it is overheating. It is over volting that fries it most of the time. I killed 2 GPUs that way once.
>>317711517
I think my tv can hit 1080p at 60Hz so it should be ok for now.
Not looking forward to having to switch my HDMI cable from my PC tomy PS3 to watch nteflix in bed.
>>317711992
I used a tool I had at house to see if the start button connectors worked, and they did.
I have no idea how to jump-start a pc without using the start button though.
>>317711247
>be me 9 years ago
>CPU noisy as fuck and hot
>test aftermarket sink+fan (thermaltake) $30
>still noisy
>test aftermarket sink+fan (cooler master) $30
>still noisy
>give up on it
>went to dreamhack, look around retailers setting up booths
>some guys selling cooling and modding stuff
>think what the heck and ask them about fan
>sells me an arctic cooling cpu sink+fan, $10
>what the heck, why not
>install
>cpu now runs cool and silent
>keep buying arctic cooling shit ever since
I've always bought either AC fans+sinks for GPUs or GPUs who had an partnership and came with their fans pre-attached. It's finally starting to get pointless as every other aftermarket cooling manufacturer have simply copied their designs.
Can you imagine that the current GPU dual fan + sink design started with people buying ACs passive GPU cooling sink and then strapping fans onto it using cable ties? Been using accelero twin turbo 2 for 4 years now and it's still running fine and shitall noise. twin turbo 3 is out now and its still the exact fuckingsame except with backplate added and increased product compability. Just don't buy AC case fans, since scythe slipstream and gentle typhoons are the best.
Still wondering if what I did is silly or not. Got a i7 4790K about a year ago and I'm using the stock heatsink instead of an aftermarket.
I helped my friend build his a month ago and he just got an i5 with a MONSTER heatsink. Who is silly here?
>>317711894
Mobo are based on chipset anyway. If I wanted to upgrade to skylark today, I have to replace my motherboard as well.
>>317711883
I'd never overclock. Seems dumb.
>>317711883
I ran a Q6600 at a ridiculously high voltage(forgot to set it back to normal or something I can't remember) for years with no problems.
>>317711883
I melted my north bridge twice though...everything stock master race with unlocked processor
>>317712117
>TV
>60Hz
>>317712117
you know it's just filling
>had a HD7770
>upgraded to GTX970
>hyped as fuck
>open case
>install card
>see two PSU pins instead of one
>look around, find another
>put everything together, then turn on PC
>monitor goes all weird, then nothing appears on screen and PC keeps rebooting
>shitting myself
>see PSU adapter in the box
>thought I just burned my new card
>turns out I just needed to upgrade my BIOS
Building a PC is fucking scary, that's why normies will always buy laptops and prebuilts. You know shit's wrong when it works on the first try.
>>317712174
Use a metal tip screwdriver and touch the two pins together? Come on man. This is basic circuit shit.
>>317710129
I have a business of making computers. What do you want to use it for? Gaming? Video editing? Office work?
>>317712230
That's what it says on the menu, probably shouldn't have spent all my money on an OP rig when my monitor is ass.
>>317712230
How's 2008 treating you?
>>317711883
Overvolted and overclocked my onboard graphics on an ancient Core 2 Duo home office PC once. Almost melted it. Screen flickered black, then an error popped up. Windows reset the voltage and OC on its own to save the onboard graphics chip from melting. It was pretty neat. Did it for fun and would never consider doing it with anything expensive tho.
>>317711042
Holy shit get a load of this billionarre
>>317711619
You're using too much thermal paste you dumb cock goblin. Thermal paste is to fill eventual gaps between whatever two things it connects together since it transfers heat better than dust or pockets of air. It doesn't magically make the CPU or GPU cooler just because it's named fucking thermal paste. Applying too much of it makes the cooling performance WORSE.
>>317712346
>What do you want to use it for? Gaming? Video editing? Office work?
We're on /v/, so good bet on gaming.
>>317712221
The Q6600s were something else, I fried two motherboards trying different setting with it and it still works up to this day >>317712224
I'm upgrading with the K6600 just because it fucking sounds the same.
>>317712219
Overclocking actually does help with older machines, provided you know what you're doing. It's good to squeeze more performance out of underpowered and/or dated hardware.
>>317712025
>bought an corsair PSU
toppest kek. Buying corsair PSUs is like buying razer anything. They're fucking infamous for overpricing their below average quality products that are made by shitty OEMs which they then stick their company name label on.
>>317712448
Show me a TV that even is under 60Hz. It's basically always been a standard.
>>317712547
>/v/
>playing actual games
>not pretending to play them but actually wasting all free time shitposting on games they aren't playing
>>317712547
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tynz3C
I suggest this.
>>317711651
I had a USB external audio thing but it kept not being recognized by the system every time I resumed from hibernation and being generally a pain to send audio to
>>317712213
Both of you. Him less so because at least he's making certain his cpu is cool
>>317712682
Can you find me an 80+ 650w for less than 50?
No rebate shit.
>>317712760
Well that sounds like your problem, nigger.
>>317712682
Only if you buy their "green" label crap.
I bet you actually bought a Rosewill
>>317712845
Cheaping out on a PSU is the best sure fire method of sending your computer to the grave.
>>317712682
What's a good PSU?
I had thermaltake and enermax and they both died, I'm using corsairs now and I have another computer running with an OCZ PSU with absolute no problems so far since 5 years
>>317712750
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tynz3C
>seagate HDD
>no PSU
>intel and not a samsung SSD
>buying windows
>20almostfucking16
>DDR3 memory
the a.b.s.o.u.t.e madman
>DDR3 memory
>>317712682
>razer anything
Hey man Deathadder 2013 is pretty alright. I wouldn't trust any of their other shit but that mouse hasn't disappointed me yet
>>317712750
>over a grand
I guess that guy who said you pay over a grand or get shit quality was right.
Here's what just happened to me.
>have custom PC thay runs everything on high - max
>4 years in and suddenly my fps in everything starts gradually going down
>Not just shit like Witcher 2, but pleb games like LOL even start to lag
> no clue what the problem is
>upgrade graphics card and ram since I was due anyways
>0 results
>for over the span of 2 weeks I try everything including wiping my hard drive, getting a new hard drive, downloading every fucking driver known to man, endless searches nothing
>autism kicks in and I want my fucking vid ya
>ready to bite the bullet and buy new motherboard and cpu, shits already in my shopping cart on newegg
>friend suggests I try my other PCI slot
>don't even get my hopes up, but it works
>glorious 60 fps at high settings on everything again
>immediately went from worst of my friends at rocket league thanks to low settings and fps spikes to one of the best
Still not sure how or why and I still feel dumb for not trying it first, but at least I didn't burn almost 300 bucks.
>>317711651
and what does that interference do? How will that affect the sound?
For some fucking reason I still don't understand ordering a custom built PC was cheaper than all the parts on their own from newegg. Even similar parts so try to bring the price down still had a greater total price.
>Pick parts
>Place order
>Save money
>Get PC
>It fucking works
>3 weeks later
>Burning smell while playing arkham knight (I could actually run it at release somehow)
>Have to send it back
>Pick it up a week later
>Mobo, PSU, Cooling, and GPU were all replaced for free
>Feelsgood
It's so much better than building my own. I couldn't tell exactly where the smell was coming from and apparently they couldn't either so they just replaced a bunch of crap. If I had built that on my own I would've been fucked trying to figure out what to send back.
>>317712926
No one mentioned cheaping out, though.
>>317712682
that particular psu got good reviews pretty much everywhere though and seasonic is not exactly a 'shitty' oem. but i can't argue the subpar performance after what happened. it was the ax 750 btw.
the whole rma'ing the thing, not being able to use my desktop only to have it happend again after about 6 months really turned me off. i still have the faulty unit around. just need to send it in to get a new one and then sell that off.
>>317712845
What do you need a 650w PSU for? It's not needed even if you're running two graphics cards or overclocking. Heck, in most cases it's not even needed when you're running 2 graphics cards. EVGA Supernova <insert letter>2 <insert wattage you need> costs 80$ or so and is close to top tier in quality.
>>317712750
>seagate
NOT
EVEN
ONCE
I bought 4mb of ram once. It was one stick.Of course you'd need matching pairs.
>>317713212
I don't, but the stated claim was corsair is overpriced. I can get a corsair PSU, exact wattage and shit I stated, for the price I just stated. And no one seems to be able to price match that here.
Ergo, corsair isn't overpriced.
>>317713212
OC 290x and a CPU will easily take 550~ watts.
>>317709740
>PC sometimes takes 30 seconds to POST
>Can hear PSU cycling during this
>Boots in seconds after POST due to SSD
>Have replaced PSU but still does it
>Constantly paranoid
Every IT guy has to start somewhere.
>around 10 yo
>trying to install Bionicle : the game
>not starting, CD needed
> install it once again
>one more reinstall ( still didnt used the crack)
>give up then decide to uninstall manually
> go into windows folder
>so many files without icons, delete them
>even clear the bin, go to sleep
>morning: need boot CD
also
>jsut got my PC, core2 Duo 2,66ghz, r3770 passive cooling ( my sister chose it...)
> my friend is kinda poor, only have a P4 and a 9800pro, something is fucked up in his PC
>" give it to me, i'm gonan fix it"
>on that day open it up, detach the cooler and pull out the CPU - dunno why
>trying to put it back, fuck up the pins
>put it back fast like nothing happened
>my sister checks it up ( she was at an IT shop),
> I didnt tell i fucked up the pins, so she get an another P4 and make my friend pay for it
> I remained silent
>also a long ago i stole yellow lego rocks from him :(
>>317713078
It shows up as that background hiss, or crackling, or just general static. You will still notice it even with a high-end sound card. You may even still notice it with a high-end external USB 3.0 DAC/AMP. There is no way to eliminate it 100%, just suppress it and clean the signal as best as you possibly can.
>>317713017
I thought I put a PSU in there. Thanks. I'll fix that after class.
>buying windows
I'm trying to run a respectable business here. I can get it for cheaper than $140, but like hell am I breaking the law in the big leagues.
Speaking of class, if you have some witty response you better make it in 7 minutes because I need to bolt.
>>317712213
My CPU heatsink is overkill.
I've had it for at least 5 years and when I look closely at it, only the first 3 of it's 64 plates are tarnished in anyway I don't think the heat has gotten past that, I've never seen it's heat rise above 24°C.
Still, I figure there's no harm in playing it safe.
>>317713351
Do you have a lot of shit connected to your motherboard?
Multiple ram slots filled? etc etc
>>317713384
Not him, but why even bother with all this when the guy you originally replied to stated getting others to build it would cost him hundreds more than building himself, and then proving him completely right?
>>317712813
But do I need one? I'm not overclocking and my temps are always great.
>>317713475
DVD Drive
1 HDD
2 SSDs
2 Ram slots used out of 4
>>317713106
Must be good to be in a country with actual support. My story:
>be hue
>build a PC for my little brother
>parts arrive, start working on it
>brother is fucking hyped
>build everything carefully
>PC turns on, no image
>spent two days troubleshooting, dad also helping
>no luck, sent all parts back to the store
>almost a month later replacement arrive
>didn't have most parts in stock, so they sent "similar" parts
>everything is completely inferior
>mobo isn't even compatible
>>317713143
>No one mentioned cheaping out, though.
and I wasn't either. the psu in this story >>317712025 was a ax 750. it's gold rated, fully modular, 7 year warranty and cost like at least 120 euros. definitely marketed as a premium product and reviewed well, so i thought i boulght something solid. but i got two duds in a row. that looked like a bad pattern to me. went with another brand and that is working now.
>>317713562
UEFI or Legacy boot?
Do you have an external HDDs attached when you boot your PC?
Proper boot order?
>>317713625
UEFI,
External USB HDD + KB+M are only devices connected.
>Build my first PC.
>Get all parts right.
>Motherboard wont lock the CPU in
>Have to use a lot o arm strength to close that spring lock.
>Pretty sure it bent some pins
>After 3 years, never had any problem.
But seriously, the tension booting it up the first time was big.
>>317713559
If you're temps are good then you're aces man. Sure it's better to be safe but who cares if you don't NEED it
>>317713556
I don't know man, I've looked into it and aside from the OS, it's not like he has friends in high places to get RAM for a nickel.
I'd say about $75 more.
>>317710975
Dude I'm rocking a HD6870 and a Phenom II quad core from half a decade ago, still runs most modern games on low/med. Minimum specs are fucking lies.
>>317713710
Try disconnecting the external USB HDD when booting. For the longest time, I had fucked up POST issues because I left my WD HDD attached when I booted. Turns out that brand of WD HDD has been known to cause issues that some have been able to solve by turning off USB legacy. Didn't work for me.
>>317713621
I don't care how "dead" it'll make my PC. Spending that much on a PSU is nuts.
>>317713474
I have that same heatsink and I've been using it since 2011, it's pretty great
>>317713218
I have the same seagate 500gigs HDD for about 5-7 years, cant even remember.
Never had a single problem, but always backup my shit. People tell me that it is a clock bomb.
>>317713218
what's wrong with seagate
>Mfw I took the standoffs off the first time and finding out what they're for
>>317713373
Right.
I have a ASUS XOnar Essence STX which claims to have a signal to noise ratio of 124dB. I can turn my speakers up to maximum and still not hear any hiss or crackle.
Are you saying that onboard sound has the same SNR as soundcards because that's a load of bollocks desu.
I will admit if you're a proper audiophile you'll have a seperate amp connected via HDMI to your PC or w/e but they're expensive. I think a decent soundcard provides a good middle ground.
>>317713798
OS+75=over 200=plural hundreds
>>317713848
Thanks will try that. It's Western Digital too.
>>317713920
Seagate had a very shit 2014 where they had the highest harddrive failure among all the brands.
>>317713384
If you're going to SELL pcs then pick either Win 8 or 10 home. As if the morons who buys prebuilts are going to go for lmao outdated windows.
>>317713197
AX750 should've been good. But if I'm to google it now I get a bunch of results of forum posts about people having problems with theirs. Sounds like warning signs to me considering how they're supposed to be "top of line premium quality".
Seasonic PSU should *generally* be good, true.
>>317713804
And I'm running fairly new parts from like 3 years ago and can't even get solid 60 FPS in games like TF2
On medium settings
>>317713851
true. they successfully turned these things into marketable products for gamers or something. like fucking gpus. it's stupid.
>>317713947
Nigga. I. Told. You. I. Can. Get. The. OS. For. Less. Than. 1. 4. Dee.
By the way I'm out of time so feel free to call me nigger or something because I won't read it. Time for finance.
>dad builds pc after i move away
>1 new voicemail when i wake up
>"anon i need help it keeps asking for the any key. I can't find it"
>laugh and go about my day
>new email next morning
>picture of his screen asking for any key
>being that clueless
>First PC
>Buy a case from a non-Newegg website
>Case comes with a free 500W Power Supply, model is named "Demon"
>Case and PSU arrive in the mail
>PSU is pretty light, almost like a toy
>Think nothing of it
>Proceed to installing my MoBo and parts\
>Turns on for a mere second and powers down
>Panic
>Ask for helpon Gaia
>Nothing helps
>Ask my Computer Hardware teacher for guidance
>Nothing helps
>Spend money on a new MoBo
>Spend money on a new PSU
>PC finally boots up
>Always vow to spend the extra dollar on a PSU name I can trust like Antec or Corsair since that incident
>>317708747
2^6 x 2=128
>>317709626
i know that feel
back in 2010 i bought a intel i7 980x. wasted $1,000 on a processor that i never used for its full potential. i paired it with a 470. yes, a 470.
i should of gotten a i7 960 or even a i7 930 / 940 and pared it with a 480 or even 470 sli.
>>317714058
rude of you for not helping
>>317714037
You're doing it wrong somewhere in there.
>>317713894
>>317707724
bought a 1TB seagate a few years back
TWENTY DAYS later, it bricked. Just fucking died out of no where, made clunking head sounds etc
Research it
Find out this particular seagate has some weird issue and OVER 60% fail rate within 6 months, and tons of other people had the same issue I did
Send it back
They send me the same faulty piece of shit type of harddrive, but refurbished, because clearly I paid full retail price for a refurbished model.
My second negative brush with seagate was buying a 1TB back up with "seagate dashboard agent". The thing is so fucking difficult to use, so fucking stupid, and so inuntuitive that I am actually considering buying a new backup just to save me headacvhes, even though this one "works"
>bought a 212 evo with my computer in march
>haven't put it on because it seems way too heavy for it to hang horizontally off my motherboard
>>317714020
by extension of what happend with the corsair model i am now warry of seasonic as well. although i never had one that read seasonic on the outside, the ax 750 i think was just a rebranded model of theirs. there really was not corsair design in there to begin with i think. both exhibited a bit of coil whine as well. just not a good product overall.
>>317714262
>paired*
Remember to check crystaldiskinfo if you haven't this week. Don't want a harddrive failing.
>>317714279
you think the evo is heavy try a d14 / d15.
use the evo. its NO WHERE NEAR heavy. its one of the lightest heatsinks you can get and it performs amazing for the price.
I have a quite old GTX660 TI. I also done fucked and bought the one with nvidia stock sink. It sucks.
Dont have money for a decent aftermarket sink.
Are those 10 bucks chinese gpu heatsink + fan trustworthy?
>>317714039
It's also mostly bullshit. 4 years ago everyone said just get a decent 80+ certified psu and you're fine. Suddenly today everyone is going on how you need a SPECIAL GAYMEN 6000W 80+ TITANIUM 4000 DOLLAR PSU or your PC is going to explode in two days from the awesome power of your singular mid range GPU and I5
>>317713998
>tfw bought Seagate 1tb HDD 2 years ago
>this year it starts having problems
>computer stops recognizing it
>eventually set it to work again by switching around SATA cables
>upon turning on my PC it was recognized for about 5 minutes before disappearing again
>trying to access any files on that drive would cause serious lag
>manage to start running a defrag after resetting 10 times
>it works normally again
>repeat 3 months later
>I have to defrag my drive every 1-2 months, otherwise it gets fucked
>drive now shows up as "null, unidentified hard drive" in Speccy
>>317713920
easily the most unreliable
don't let that one person who says "durr I've had a seagate drive for 8 years and it worked fine that means every drive is perfect hurr"
just spend the extra 10-20 dollars more and get a WD black, probably the more reliable.
>>317712732
Most SDTVs from Europe and Australia
>>317714279
That's why the backplate exists you numbnuts. Granted, the mounting system is ass.
>>317714270
That or some part is bugged/broken as per the two dozen horror stories in this thread about weird PC problems that took weeks to figure out.
>>317714279
don't be stupid, i have pic related and i have carried that thing around too. it'll be fine
>>317710684
>audiophiles
>>317714486
Why not just buy a new 1tb drive. Come on 1tb drives are cheap as fuck now.
>>317713930
I'm telling you that if you bought a decent enough motherboard, yes, there's no difference between onboard sound and an internal sound card. No amount of shielding on the card will ever eliminate the interference, and as such, it's a waste of money. If you're going to buy a doohickey to clean your audio signal up, you should at least buy the one that works best, otherwise you're a straight up pleb and a retard, end of discussion.
>>317714527
>cooler is bigger than the case
>come into some money
>want to build a PC finally
>find out PC's nowadays cost like 500 more than my budget
Oh well, at this point no amount of FPS or resolution seems worth a 400% cost increase over a PS4
>>317714527
>Giant Saw Thing
>>317714425
so it is supposed to just be completely suspended by the motherboard
goddamn building this computer in the first place as already so nerve wracking the mb didnt screw in every single slot for some reason and the gpu didnt perfectly fit in ruiahrariojiojg
>>317714527
But why?
>>317714279
Got a Hyper TX3 (almost hits the case limit) and thought the same. Actually it was fucking hell 'cause my case is crampled and the pins would never fit. Always one or two pins fucked, then having to take it off, fix and redo. Took like an hour just to insert the cooler.
I'm glad everything worked out in the end, but it was scary to see the pins bending for some reason I don't know.
>>317714583
>let me tell you about your ears
>>317714554
>audiophile
>digital audio medium
Nope. Real audiophiles use records
>>317714580
I did, but I am still keeping this drive for as long as I can.
>>317714554
They're worse than wine tasters. honestly.
>>317714554
>he's getting a blowjob under the table
>>317714272
My friend has the worst luck with computers out of anyone i know. He buys a new one and its fucking up left and right within a month. His last laptop wouldnt run shit so he gave it to me for free and got a new one. Now his old one is running everything splendidly for me, and his new one fucks up the hdmi output, the power adaptor makes noise, and the keyboard sometimes has ghost inputs. Hell the one he gave me sometimes outperforms his new one.
And his desktop has been a mess since he got it.
>>317714554
What is wrong with him?
>>317714674
Nice greentext reply. Doesn't change the fact that you're a pleb. Here's your (You).
>>317712937
Component quality, Efficiency, Voltage Regulation, Ripple, Fan quality.
Component quality - speaks for it self. Shit breaks easily.
Efficiency - poor ones gets hot and causes faster degradation
Voltage regulation - stability
Ripple - in simple terms shit generated that disrupts slowly destroys rest of your PC components
Some manufacturers makes better PSUs than others.
>>317714832
Thanks for the (You) desu
>>317711883
I had an 8800GT melt itself
>>317714779
See stories like this just make me want to stick with consoles. PC's sound like a giant fucking gamble. Either you strike gold or you get a massiv whammy and are out over a grand on something that barely outdoes a console that costs less than a quarter what it costs.
Not to mention constant problems that spring up, and how difficult troubleshooting PC problems can be
>>317713998
>>317714486
>>317714495
>just built a new pc with a seagate hdd
>>317714652
what?
pics of your guts for we can see?
>>317714754
Pretty much any faggot who claims to be some sort of hauty elitist about something is a faggot.
>You're not REALLY enjoying that because you're not doing it like I do
>>317707724
>Buying a Geforce 4 mx440 64Mb at any point in your life is grounds for ridicule.
>>317715020
This is why I always laugh at keks like you that try to save money so badly you don't even look at the quality.
Reviews are there, do the research.
>>317714520
I'd recommend trying to fix that asap.
Start reseating shit and downloading drivers yo. Mines 5 years old and I'm bouncing between Rocket League, Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 like it's nothing.
>>317714554
I work with music and I wish it was just like that. These guys live in a different world than musicians and listeners.
>>317715020
I don't get this, I've had a Seagate drive for 4 years and haven't had a single failure.
Are people carrying their PCs next to industrial magnets or something?
>>317714272
Oh and to add, the shit refurb they sent me died 2 years later
>>317715020
My 60GB Seagate HDD in my Sony Vaio lasted 15 years
>>317707856
>gaming headphones
>>317715037
i'm not at home, but basically the motherboard is screw in fine to my case except for one screw on the top left having to be half screwed in at an angle
similarly, the gpu fits in fine but the part with the hdmi sticking out doesn't screw into the case
its been working fine mostly but it slightly worries me in regards to the stability of this thing
case is a fractal design define r5 btw
>>317715158
The amount of time that takes just isn't worth it to me. We're talking a week of legitimate WORK just to get shit to functional again. Might as well just buy a new PC,.
>>317715020
Your OS should be on a SSD so it doesn't matter. Just periodically check to make sure your HDD isn't failing and back up occasionally. Unless you are one of those keks that don't have a SSD in 2015
>>317715184
Congratulations, you won a game of Russian Roulette. That's what having a working Seagate is like.
>>317714270
He definitely is. My 6870 can run Ryse smoothly on low settings. The first game I've come across that it can't run well is Fallout 4, my rig chugs like a fat bitch with that shitty unoptimized trash. I'm upgrading to a FX 6 core CPU and GTX960 soon, only 300 dollars or so for both. I like buying the cheaper slightly outdated hardware because it still runs modern things well without breaking bank at all. I invested in a somewhat future-proof mobo back when I originally built it, thing has seen so many different cases and hardware configurations without a hitch. MSI isn't really fucking around when they say military class hardware, it isn't the most advanced or highest quality, but military grade shit is rugged as fuck. Our TCNO course used MSI mobos with chucklefucks ripping out RAM and plugging shit in wrong all day every day, those mobos are years old and still operate well.
>jumped on the SSD bandwagon too soon
>only 128GB was affordable
>can't fit any games on it now, just the OS and temporary program files
I should upgrade but fuck it's a pain.
>>317715229
HDD's from 15 years ago were also infinitely more stable and reliable than ones today. Modern harddrives are way way more likely to fail than some 60gb from 2000
>>317715230
>tfw always buy gaming headsets
>never have a problem
I'm not trying to be >>317714554 this guy, I'm just trying to hear shit and talk to friends. If I WAS an audiophile I sure as fuck wouldn't be listening to music on a PC
>>317715020
If it's brand new, you don't have to worry about losing much data
Plus, hard drives are the second easiest thing to upgrade, after memory. And it's the season to be stocking up on 4 TBs, nigger. You can easily splurge and get a hitachi n TB drive or even WD would be acceptable
And it's more likely than not that your seagate won't fail, it's just a fuckload more likely that it will compared to any other brand. I still use my old seagates from when I was in your position, just back everything important up
tl;dr
you aren't fucked
>>317715326
>tfw 250gb and it's not enough because fucking FSX and its addons take up 50TB
>>317715287
That's PC building in general
>first custom PC was a fucking Q6600 and a 9800
Crysis was NO MATCH.
That computer was a fucking champion.
>>317715326
Bought a 500 GB 850 EVO for $135 the other day. They're slowly getting cheaper.
>>317707724
I sold my Yamaha Blaster so I could get a computer from Tiger Direct that had an AMD K6-2.
>>317715326
What OS are you fucking using?
I have Win7 installed and Dota2 and I still have 30+ gb space left with 10% set for over provision effectively leaving me with 50 gb of space left.
is reusing old parts generally a bad idea? I'm building a new PC because my mobo is failing, but the HDD inside is less than a year old and fully functional. Is it bad to reuse that?
>>317709037
2k is fucking 1080p. Are you retarded?
>>317708605
Nice comeback, weeb.
>>317715598
I have 15GB free on it right now and no games installed on it, it's Win7 I'm using.
I really have no idea what's using all the space, just crap from thousands of games or programs that insist on saving data to the C: drive.
>>317708320
>he thinks there is a difference between a soundcard and an "external DAC"
>>317715175
Seems like a curse, to me
>99.9% of the world can enjoy music fine normally
>you can only enjoy it with several thousand dollars of overpriced equipment
>>317715615
Why would it be a bad idea?
>>317715527
I and 6 friends now have custom built PC of varying prices over various years.
Sure we have our problems like my PCI slot, one of my buddies had his hard drive die for no reason, etc but at the end of the day it's definitely worth it.
I'd post my pic of me running 4 emulators, a current gen game and a movie all at once but I'm on mobile.
The investment is definitely worth it if you're not some sort of fucking normie.
>>317715326
>mfw morons who gets into SSD now buys a kingston v300 trying to save money and gets a piece of shit that runs effectively as fast as a WD red MECHANICAL drive.
>>317715751
I don't know, which is why I asked to clarify rather than doing it blindly?
>>317715268
wow.
the define r5 is a great case. maybe you didn't seat the motherboard correctly?
what motherboard is it?
>>317715828
Do you have any common sense?
>One part is bad
>Should I replace every single part?
>>317715828
HDDs rarely go bad and it won't hurt at all, just save you money.
>>317715592
I also kept buying 8800GTX's and waterblocks for them.
>Never used them.
>>317715615
I have a 5 year old 1TB HDD and an 8 year old 80GB HDD in my rig that still work perfectly. They got corrupted during a recent swap between builds but completely reformatting and whatnot fixed the issue. Hard drives can be reused constantly until they're BTFO, it'd be a waste of dosh to buy new ones for every new build.
>>317715742
You probably have a bunch of temporary data plus the hugeass winsxs folder.
>Plan to buy new power supply and graphics card on this prebuilt I have so it can actually run more games, only thing holding it back
>Have never done anything like that before
For my first time since I don't have the extra money in case I fuck up, I could still afford to have those guys at best buy or microcenter do it for me. Is it worth it if there's a chance I may fuck up?
>>317715808
The investment isn't worth it then? Because that's what I read. Unless you are obsessively into PC on the same level guys like the audiophile type are into audio, the amount of cash and risk a actual passable PC costs compared to a console isn't worth it. I could buy a VERY nice non-gaming PC AND a PS4 AND a Wii U for the cost of a fucking gaming PC.
And I likely wouldn't have to spend any time trouble shooting or googling answers.
>>317710684
You claim you're an audiophile but then go on to mock him for having a "2-speak setup, no digital anything and a sub 600 ohm pair of headphones"
You literally know nothing of what it means to be an audiophile.
>>317707724
>decide to build my first computer in 2003 to play Call of Duty
>buy parts
>don't know what the fuck I'm doing but they are expensive so must be good
>build computer
>crashing everywhere
>take it to a computer repair shop
>they tell me my ram is shit
>buy more ram
>still crashing
>decide to push through that computer with crashes for years
>later build a new one and it works fine
>years later check that crashing computer to see what was wrong with it
>never put thermal paste on the CPU
>mfw I could have just put some paste on that fucker and all those years I endured with crashes could have been prevented with some FUCKING PASTE
>>317715750
Well, to be fair, good equipment really makes a difference. Good tech doesn't turn you into a clown, though. I bet he enjoyed it more than the guys playing the music he was listening to.
>>317714787
those are $3000 headphones and turn any high pitch sounds into knife blades in your ears, every time he flinches it's because a trumpet or snare drum is going off
>>317715615
it depends on the parts and how old they are but mostly it should be fine
I always get a brand new PSU for what I'd consider a new build (without getting into Theseus' ship bullshit) but otherwise I reuse everything else unless it's incompatible
>>317712682
The new RMx series is on-par with EVGAs G2 series which are both considered to be one of the best PSUs for that price range, both also has 7-10 years warranty
Cheap corsair is shit though
>>317715940
So you think it's better to not ask questions and make dumb choices? Always ask questions, retard.
>>317715920
Asus Z97-A
i was debating just putting the entire thing back to together again, but that was so stressful since this was my first built computer and it was really expensive for me and everything seemed to go wrong the first time, so considering everything works fine i'm figuring i shouldnt fuck with it
>>317716124
How do I know to ask a question if I can't ask someone if I should ask a question first?
>>317716013
Can you read labels and attach them to the respective area? If yes. You won't fuck it up.
>>317707724
not actually building my pc but...
>flashing my gpu bios to get a bit more perfomance
>suddenly, BSoD in the middle of flashing
>panic.webm
>restart pc
>black screen, not even post
>oh shit nigguh
>remove gpu
>enter bios
>set video to onboard
>turn off pc, insert gpu
>load windows
>try to flash gpu again
>it works
>reboot
>it works
i think i dodged a bullet with that bricked gpu since i had no warranty.
>>317714554
This guy has some pretty good review videos
>>317715746
>internal sound card of any type still outputs interference no matter how much shielding
>properly set up high quality external DAC outputs clean audio
Sorry, but you're wrong.
>>317716045
>Good equipment makes a difference
Yet there are people enjoying music as much as him and spent nothing.
But yeah, he's the winner here, had to spend quadruple digits to enjoy something.
Once something starts costing thousands, it's no longer worth it to me unless it's an essential thing to living like a car or a home.
>>317715742
Ignore my last post. I uploaded the wrong image.
>>317715527
No, that's if you don't know what you're doing and have limited knowledge of trusted brands, model numbers or what numbers yield good performance.
Equipment failure does happen, but knowing which brands are less prone to this makes it more of a blue chip.
>>317715820
This has to be bait, but I'll bite anyway
I have a v300 in my gaming rig, and while I know it's not the fastest SSD in the world, to say that it's as slow as a mechanical drive meant for NAS is absolutely idiotic
>>317716103
love my evga 1000watt supernova g2. that superflower leedex quality.
>>317716338
Why did you reply to act as if you were disagreeing and then agree at the end?
>>317716182
either the motherboard isn't seated properly or the case is off.
even the video card could be off. i had two 290s in crossfire awhile ago and one card bracket wasn't seated correctly so it wouldn't properly align in any case.
can't really tell without pics.
as long as its grounded its fine though.
>>317710961
>had several extremely serious ear infections as a kid
>have had permanent hearing damage for pretty much all my life
>will need hearing aids before I turn 30
>can't tell the cheap and expensive headphones apart from audio quality alone
I honestly don't know if I should feel good that I will never have to spend money on expensive audio equipment, or bad that I won't ever experience how awesome they are.
>>317716438
Because you don't know what the term "blue chip" means.
>>317716619
i'd assume its grounded, considering like 11/12 screws fit in perfectly and its worked pretty flawlessly for 8 months
i think im just gonna leave it be for now, thanks for the help tho family
>leaves wip computer out in garage
>dad goes into garage to "get some tools"
>come back to find wip computer ON FIRE.
>>317716360
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kingston+bait+and+switch
>>317716013
no matter how stupid you may be, it is NEVER worth it to pay someone to build your computer for you
You can do it, anon. Although personally, I'd just ditch the prebuilt, salvage what I can from it, and build the new PC from basically scratch.
>>317716750
Neither do 99.99999999999% of people who will build a PC for gaming.
It's almost as if you're stating building a PC is something only enthusiasts should do due to the incredible complexity of components and brands, and that most people would be far better off just spending 2-300 more and getting a prebuilt.
Because it's the truth.
>>317716886
Why is it dumb to spend 50 bucks for someone to put my components together? It'll take me an entire day, maybe days, to do so myself. My time is worth more than a 50$
>>317714652
You're suspending a few hundred grams off a reasonably substantial slab of fiberglass with some copper signal layers in between the layers, tightly bolted onto the chassis via several mount points close together. It's not an issue on the vast majority of rigs
>>317717003
>50 bucks
Try $85
>>317717003
Sure it is. But learning to put together the components at least once is always good because you can easily disassemble it later for cleaning or troubleshooting. You know what to do if you want to upgrade in the future.
You are going to pay someone 50 bucks every you want to clean your PC?
>>317716852
>>317716360
>buying from a company that literally released a batch of SSDs, waited until review came out and then stealthily changed the hardware in subsequent manufactured products of the same name to shit
>>317712937
These days I'd recommend EVGA's G2 series, it's absurdly high quality and not that expensive either. Seasonic is also a safe choice
>>317707724
I work as a systems engineer and get stupid requests every day, today's gem:
>"can I buy a blade server and put a titan in it? for gaming while the server isn't in demand" - IT manager for a 1000 user company
The only retarded thing involved with me building anything is the customer
>>317716205
>>317716886
That's kinda how I was feeling about it, I won't rebuild from scratch cause I have no need to the rest of the parts in the prebuilt will work fine for what I'm doing. Replacing a video card shouldn't be too difficult it really is just the power supply I'm scared of.
>>317712069
What's the difference between 2i4 and 6i6?
>want to build a computer for the first time
>do research about everything
>scout prices and deals for a couple months
>drive to Microcenter one day and decide they have good deals on most of the parts I need
>order the rest from Newegg
>build it
>everything works perfectly
>runs beautifully
>play vidyas
>enjoy
I don't understand what people even have trouble with when building a PC. I don't understand how you can have lived near your entire life with computers and not know how to at least troubleshoot.
>>317717003
There are plenty of reasons
1. it'll save you $50 (probably more because I've never seen those scammers peddle their shit for less than $100)
2. as an owner of [thing], it's good to know the basics of [thing], The knowledge of how your shit works and how to fix your shit is invaluable.
3. the time it takes to assemble your pc is negligible. Do you have cancer or something and won't live to the end of the year? what's one day of putting together legos?
4. you won't have to live down the shame of being a tard
5. you can use all this knowledge so you don't have to pay them $50 the next time you want to do this
>>317711042
It was good until >Seagate
Lmao
>friend built pc
>it doesn't boot
>asks to come over and check it out
>come over, start looking over
>notice motherboard is seemingly flush agaisnt the backboard
>look closer
>he bolted the motherboard right agaisnt the metal plate with no spacers
After unbolting it and putting spacers it booted fine, surprised me that it wasn't DOA after he tried to boot several times with it bolted straight.
>>317717405
The only hard part about power supply is cable management. Buy a modular one to make your life easier.
Make sure your motherboard's 24 and 4 pin is plugged in.
PCI-E to PCI-E
Sata to Sata
I don't see how the fuck you can even fuck it up desu.
>>317717561
man i'm so torn
I plan to builda new computer, but I want to know what deals microcenter will have on friday.
or if I should just wait until monday
>>317711170
>You do realize that most "minimum requirements" are inflated to push more pricey parts, right?
Its mimimum requirements to be able to play the game under the most stressful point in the game.
Imagine if your game met the requirements, but crashed near the finale because it was more graphically intensive?
previously i had a gigabyte z97 board with alc1150 on it. i tried using it when i got it but it sounded terrible compared to my titanium hd. i recently upgraded to skylake and got a maximus viii hero after reading a few reviews for it. they all praised its audio highly and said its a replacement for dedicated sound cards in the $70 - $100 range.
the alc1150 implementation (supremefx 2015) on my maximus face rapes my previous gigabyte z97x's alc1150 in audio quality and compared to my titanium hd, i cannot tell the difference between the two. they sound near identical. sound is clear, crisp, accurate, and no poppings or distortions.
i'm using my same speakers as well, klipsche promedia 2.1.
onboard audio has really improved over the years. its nice manufacturers have been giving it some love. the way asus did it on my maximus viii hero really allows realtek alc1150 codec to shine.
i know they're better sound cards and dacs out there, but for me at least, onboard now once implemented correctly, is "good" enough.
>>317717718
>caring about cables
cum on step it up. it's not like you'll see shit anyways
>>317717740
http://www.microcenter.com/site/specials/catalog/catalog.aspx?rd=1
>>317717540
The main difference is that the 6i6 has more inputs and outputs, much like the model name suggests
>>317717940
the fuck is that GPU
>>317711042
all the parts are good (well, except for the HDD) but they are absolutely not worth the amount of money you'd be paying
so in short, it's shit and you're just throwing money around to compensate for your lack of knowledge on how to get the best price/performance ratio
>>317718012
...of course they would announce that before hand. Thanks anon
>>317717696
I had to troubleshoot a friend's build
>"Anon come over my PC isn't starting"
>I get to his, he shows me the PC and it starts, but just whirs
>no monitor connected, so obviously the next step is to see if it has an error message
>I get him to connect a monitor
>no OS installed
>"So windows doesn't come free on the motherboard?"
He was studying computer science at university.
>>317717940
Loose cables can affect air flow you stupid fuck.
>>317718153
most computer science students i've met even after spending the four years and graduating don't know jack shit about computers.
its sad really.
>>317716907
>That deflecting
The reality is that no brand is perfect, only trusted. Seagate isn't a trusted brand, it's one of convenience that saves guys like you a couple of bucks.
Just like guys who spend money on low shelf model GPUs and expect to run the latest games in "Master Race" quality.
You want shit that works? Shop a little smarter and be willing to spend a bit more than you planned. 200-300 range video cards. 75-120 range HDDs, 300-350 range CPUs. 4-6 Case fans with high air flow and low noice, full size ATX cases. That sort of thing. It ain't rocket science and you could probably end up making a good deal if you play your cards right.
Shit's pretty doable for a 800-1050 budget, even less than that if your needs are less frivolous. Some of you just don't take the time to read up a little before making a decision and that's not PC builder's know-how, that's consumer know-how speaking.
>>317717940
>Non modular
>PSU at the top of the case
>No cable management
>>317717940
nice airflow, m8
>mfw went full autistic poorfag mode and browsedr/buildapcsalesfor weeks on end for another best buy coupon glitch while also picking up individual pieces on sale
>4690k+mobo combo for $199
>280x for $150
>8gb ram $45
>case for $15
>1440p 24' monitor $120
Basically $550 for an amazing setup that runs Witcher 3 ultra @ 1440 with shadows/gd toned down @ 60 and fallout 4 @1440p 60fps with shadow/gd toned down too
>>317718240
so what do they do? Theoretically play with ones and zeroes?
>build first ever PC 2 years ago
>jump right in at the deep end
>spend £1500 on 780sli, SSD, huge aftermarket heatsink for oc'd cpu
>followed a guide online, didn't have a fucking clue what I was doing
>hour later everything was in
>switch it on
>install windows
>done
>still running like a dream playing newest games 1440p butter smooth 60fps
>no problems or glitches whatsoever
>>317716286
I did and here's what it looks like.
>>317718370
They sign up and get their shiny laptop free from the college, then they learn how to use dumb WYSIWYG shit and random useless shit like equality, group development methodology and team leadership, then they graduate and work at mcdonalds.
>>317716852
>>317717241
I already knew about all that shit when I bought it, that's why it was so cheap, didn't really give a shit about the transfer speed as I'm on sata2 still, I got it for the faster access time and random read/write over a mechanical drive.
Been using it for about a year now and it's still way faster than the WD blue I was using, windows 7 still boots up in 20 seconds with zero maintenance so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>317708025
You only need that for professional music recording. External sound cards tend to have a slight delay.
>>317718370
they're good with math and went the programming route since there is a "demand" for them. all they need to know is how to use an IDE.
you don't actually need to have an "understanding" how computers work to do programming. they just see the shit as massive math equations and this number is bigger than that number and vice versa. use floats instead of doubles because i need bigger number. if i use float i cause more big numbers which use more space so i need to use something less and whatnot.
growing up in san jose and working at the frys electronics you would be appalled by the shear amount of "programmers" that came in looking for a computer and asking me and others for help because they don't have the slightest clue what to get. you be sickened to see how many went with X because X had more ram and more ram equal faster!
>>317707724
>get pentium. 1800 mhz 128 mb ram
>unreal tournament demo runs like shit
>ask computerfriend what i should do
>he says my pc is 800 mhz instead of 1800 and i need a 3d card
>spent all my money on a new geforce 5 series
>install it
>computer crashes after 30 seconds of gaming
>psu is to weak
>go to store for repair
>they give me a geforce 4 mx 64mb like op
>pay 70 euro on top but everything worked
>go to consolegaming till my age of 25
>>317718871
If you are a consumer and you are looking to speed up your computer, upgrading the RAM is the best possible way to see an upgrade in speed.
>>317718240
>ask a friend with a BS in CompSci size of a HD he wants to put in his PS3
>starts listing physical dimensions
Fuck man, I know what form factor means.
>recycle parts from a few old PCs to make a computer for CNC shenanigans
>shit won't boot, the fans either spin up or they don't depending on the mood of the thing while the screen shows jack shit
>double and triple check the mobo standoffs, PSU voltage, jumper setup (lel IDE HDD), everything
>still no dice
>feel defeated, maybe the mobo blew a cap or something during those two years it sat unused in the box
>after a solid couple hours of googling, try replacing the mobo battery on a whim
>the fucker happily boots up just like normal, like nothing was ever wrong with it
That mobo is the first and only one I've seen that refuses to boot at all without a working battery. For fuck's sake, most computers at least can fire up POST and tell the battery's empty, but not that one apparently
>>317718871
a lot of them just see it as a job. not a passion. they do it for the money, not the love.
>>317718725
1. Move your users files to your HDD stuff like My documents, My music, My pictures etc
2. Run Disk cleanup for your C drive. That will cut down your Windows folder a little.
3. Go into your program files and tidy it up. Uninstall everything you don't use frequent and reinstall in on your HDD
4. 3.6GB Nvidia?! Delete all your old installation folders for your drivers. Do that everytime you update your drivers.
That will easily net you 30gb
>Build 1st PC with no help other than internet
>Works perfect outside of messy wires
>keep upgrading it never have a single problem
>have good job and can afford more stuff now
>decide to install a try hard custom water cooling kit
>all fucking perfect senpai not a single problem 1st try again
>mfw installing the usb and all the front case LEDs is the hardest part of building a computer
all those goddamn tiny connectors, can never plug them with the mobo outside the case you have to be a midget to do this.
Installing custom water cooling valves and making a custom modular PSU is always easier.
>>317709801
found the 12 year old
>>317711517
>stuck using an old monitor
I know that feel I'm stuck using this monitor
>>317719176
Until this moment I had no idea it kept all of the old updates.
I thought computers were supposed to be smart.
>>317718816
>windows 7 still boots up in 20 seconds
Nigga the 2 7200 rpg seagate HDDs I stole from my work running RAID1 boots windows up in 20 seconds.
Should I buy a 700 series graphics card? I currently have a 550ti and I'm not 100% sure my system would even run a 900 series
>>317719465
It does that for easier rollback and backup.
>helping friend put his pc together.
>he forgot to buy a heatsink and his cpu didnt come with one
>never come across this problem and just put it together after telling him to buy one asap
>power it on just to see if we put it together right
>immediatly turns off
>what the hell?
>try again and the same happens
>touch his cpu and burn the shit out of my finger
I never knew juat how fast thry got hot.
>>317719524
why wouldn't it? iirc a 980 ti doesn't even fully saturate all the bandwidth provided by pci-express 2 16x slot.
I don't know how to google it: the thread
>>317715640
2K is 2556x1440 or 2556x1600 you fucking cum rag. 1080p is 1K
>>317719524
your graphics card would pretty much be only reliant on your psu. Make sure you have enough wattage and the proper pcie connectors to support whatever card you're buying; i'm pretty sure haswells are power hungry though
>>317719464
sell that trashtop and clean your room faggot
>>317719465
Oh and by move your folders. I mean change your location, I don't mean drag and drop the files inside those folders leaving them empty.
http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-change-location-folders-such-documents-or-downloads
>>317719592
It's not a joke to say you can cook an egg on your CPU.
>>317719827
>2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.
Yeah 1920x1080 is so close to 1,000 horizontal pixels
>>317719827
lol you're so fucking stupid haha
this is why i can't take battlestation related threads on v seriously
>>317719904
That's not going to fuck up any games which save files to the original location is it?
Thanks for the help by the way.
I forgot these.
>GPU fan acting up
>Clean it
>Still doing those weird ass sounds
>Remove it, clean it properly
>Still the same
>Remove it, fucking disassemble it all and reassemble
>Work better than ever
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but it's working.
>>317719894
But that trashtop is what's giving my desktop internet at the moment
>>317720031
I move my documents to my other HDD the moment I installed my SSD so I have no way to guarantee you it won't fuck up any game but most game should be smart enough to look for your save files in wherever your windows point your My documents folder to. If you are paranoid, leave my documents where it is but move the other folders.
>>317710961
almost all headphones need a break in period. You're fine.
>>317720071
>I love shorting everything in my computer!
USE STANDOFFS
>>317719962
>>317720001
Google it you fucking sperg mongols. Keep it up with the latest marketing terms if you want to sound smart.
2K is known as 1440p by most people and it's marketed as such.
>>317719464
MAH FUCKING NIGGA
You took it from one of those piece of shit prebuilt dells didn't you? 1280x1024 master race
>>317720214
It's My Documents that's the biggest of the bunch, I'll just go for it, if I lose any saves I'm sure I can dig them out or get them from the cloud like magic or just not care.
>>317720250
lol nice try but you goofed up :^)
it's okay we all have made retarded comments like yours from time to time
>>317720309
Good luck. That should save you plenty of space already. Do remember to run disk cleanup as well, search for it in your windows start menu.
>>317720275
Yup friend decided to gift me his shitty dell monitor and tower and the piece of shit tower didn't start up. Managed to acquire a 60 gig hard drive from it at least
>>317707724
Well I built everything myself, and things mostly work out.
First computer I had was a Pentium Pro, then an Athlon XP - Sempron, then an Pentium E2140, I've got a Athlon II currently.
Building now is cheaper, and less risky,
>>317719851
My PSU is a 500W and I've been debating on getting one with more wattage, but I'm not sure if it'll be worth it since at the moment my PC runs fine.I am having problems with temperatures. I recently bought anther fan for my PC (intake) but I'm still getting temperatures from 120 to 150 even with software that increases fan speeds
>>317707724
>PSU gets busted, takes a week to deliver a new one
>SSD crashes around december and i have to spend a month with my old HP-laptop because our computer-shop had ran out of them, and my ISP decides to start fixing our connection in the middle of my christmas vacation
Sure. PC-gaming is fun. But the hickups can be devastating.
>>317720598
I found another 6GB of Nvidia updates in Program Files and otherwise did everything you said. 40GB free now instead of 15. Thanks. I don't need to panic about it filling up from a single download anymore.
>>317720801
always keep hardware backups for when the new stuff fails
>try to put a build together
>stuck on case forever
Please help. Every case I find is like some 200 dollar ricer shit I don't need because 100+ extra for LED's is retarded. And most of the ones I see that are recommended are old and seem to have compatability issues with modern shit according to pcpartpicker.
>>317721021
I've never been huge on cases
If its a box that holds parts i'll take it
>>317720795
You need like a 1000w these days600 should be fine unless you're overclocking and have like SLI 980's or titans
>>317710398
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
This is why you don't have a carpet and have based wood floors instead.
>>317721021
Fractal Design's shit is recommended by everyone and their dog, and for good reason
Why do more cards have 4 gigs of vram while other expensive cards have 3, or 7. What else should you look for in a card.
I know jack shit about computer parts, I was genuinely curious why my 7970 has 3g vram,but a 780ti is about 150 dollars more with the same amount of vram.
Someone spoonfeed me please.
>>317720984
No problem anon.
Happy to help.
>>317721142
you can heavily overclock a CPU and a 980 for under like 700
>>317721021
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA/
>>317721021
Antec 300
>>317721018
I just upgraded from a GTX 760 2GB to a meme-970 this summer. I've seriously considered just buying a used a GTX 780Ti from a friend of mine, just because i'm too paranoid.
>Built my own PC about three years ago
>The other day my 670 explodes, need to get a new graphics card
>Get a 970, install it, windows shits itself entirely and I have to reinstall it completely after formatting the drive
>In doing so discover that I could have had my CPU overclocked this whole time
Reinstalling windows was a pain in the arse, but things are running better than ever. Feels pretty good.
Speccy doesn't show it but the CPU is running at 4.5GHz
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>317721021
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/deepcool-case-tesseractbf
>>317721363
>>317721363
Haf 912 is one of those aforementioned older cases PC Part picker detects compatability issues with most modern mobos.
>>317721479
>reinstalling windows
>pain in the ass
?
You should be reformating yearly, at least.
>>317718287
>>317718194
>implying
kek
cables affecting the airflow is literally one of the dumbest fucking arguments I've ever heard. If some bundled cables would affect airflow then those fucking filters that come with most recent "high end" cases would be KILLING air flow.
I've never had GPU temp exceed 57C even when running games needy enough grafics wise that it only runs at 40 fps for hours.
>>317721021
I was about to recommend the CM 690 II, but for some reason the only people selling it on Amazon are charging $400+ for it while I got mine from Newegg for about $80 a few years back.
Anyway, if you can find one at $80 or so, it's a steal. The airflow is perfect (even with my shit cable management), there's plenty of room for whatever parts you want, and it even has a hotswap bay for transferring stuff from an HDD.
>>317721479
>Bought a 970
>>317708106
>paying 50 bucks for some transistors slapped on a peace of PCB
ahahAHAHAHAHAHAHahahaha
>>317721479
What'd you use to overclock your cpu? I'm basically retarded and am too scared to risk damaging for cpu
>>317721556
The problem was one of the basic windows files had corrupted, which meant I thought I'd have to lose everything and I tried literally every possible thing other than reinstalling.
Turned out I lost nothing when I reinstalled as it only deleted the stuff on my SSD and not my main hard drive. I'm retarded. Oh well.
>>317719492
thats great senpai
but for those of us that don't want to piss about, or work anywhere where multiple hard drives can just go missing without question, it was a good option
>>317721339
Earlier on people were arguing you needed some ricer tier massive PSU and that a 50 dollar 650w is cheaping out. I don't get the modern need people have to spend CPU or GPU prices on a part that historically never used to cost that much
>>317721695
>Being a memester
That said, I'd fuck that squash.
>>317721767
It's in the bios of your motherboard. Look for a guide, there's a gorillion online.
>>317721556
Why would I want to experience a week of annoyance?
>mfw upgrading from some shitty 256MB card I got in 2007 to a GTX570
>buy pre-built pc
>upgrade the PSU and add an high-end gpu
>gets hotter than a volcano because of the shitty stock coolers
>can't upgrade since the case it's too fucking small
>>317721767
Go into your bios. Don't touch the voltage unless you are sure you know what you are doing. Play around with the clock speed.
>buy 3770k
>want to overclock it
>put the multiplier from 35 to 36
>nothing works anymore
>still can't figure out what broke
>>317721845
Because $50 on a PSU is cheaping out retard. You aren't going to get anything of quality for that much but 650w is fine. wattage != quality.
>>317721556
But anon, I lost the key my friend gave me and I want to use UEFI instead of Legacy. I can't pirate Windows AND use UEFI :(((
>>317719827
oh /v/, sometimes your stupidity is only rival'd by youtube comments.
>>317722027
From antediluvian to just old as fuck, congrats.
>>317722031
This is why I bought the biggest case I could find way back when and I've never had any space issues.
It sits on my desk like a great monolith.
Had to cut out a palm size piece of steel to fit my new 390x into my case (Antec 300).
No ragrets.
>>317722094
Cool I'll keep spending 50 on quality PSU's, you spend 200 on rice, retard
>>317722149
I almost did that for a tri-x 290, I just bought a new case that could also accommodate for a second one instead.
>>317722143
>mfw carrying my case anywhere
I didn't even think it was that big but it's like it's made of lead and bricks
>>317721845
A 50 dollar 650w is cheaping out. I am not sure you can get ANY good brand of PSU which is 650w for 50 dollars. You seem to think wattage = quality, fyi China sells 50 dollar 1000w PSU that might as well be named ticking time bomb.
>have some CPU you need to put on the MB like a card into a slot
>It was an AMD so you can mark the CPU with a fucking sharpie and overclock it
>put 3 fans onto it
>almost 500mhz horey shet
>all dem details man, even playing on 1024x768
Does anyone else remember booting up WinXP for the first time? Shit was revolutionary, just plugging shit into your Computer and it just works or searches for working drivers
Only thing that Windows evolved over the years is sending their users data to the NSA
>>317722274
Why do you move your PC?
Isn't that what a laptop or tablet is for?
>>317722214
>50 dollar
>Quality
Link me newegg or amazon please.
>>317721912
>week
uwotm8?
Ninite literally makes reinstalling easy as fuck
I literally don't even know where to begin with this.Mom bought me a pc after my brothers' shat out on me and so far, I'm undecided on getting a new computer or upgrading this one.
>>317722303
No nigga, I don't think wattage is quality. Why do you think you need to spend hundreds for a PSU? This is a new development from retards who buy razer type products. Please show me what you think is not cheaping out, then explain what makes a 80+ cert 650w corsair shit.
>buy a console
>it just werks
enjoying fixing your shitty hardware pcu.cks :^)?
>>317722379
For LAN parties, of course. You DO have friends, right anon?
>>317721798
Don't you get it?
People buy SSDs to get higher speed.
Running HDDs at RAID1 barely increases read speed, as it mirrors the same data on 2 drives, two outdated drives on top of that.
You fucking paid extra to get the performance of a conventional mechanical drive. A normal WD red 2TB that you can buy today performs at those speeds.
>>317722475
Not since 2006.
>>317722414
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
>>317722436
>10gb of ram
>10
4, 4, 2?
You can evne do that?
>>317722462
>Not spending 50 dollar on PSU means you are spending 100 on PSU
Nigga you retarded? I am talking about forking out that extra 20-30 for a reputable brand.
>>317721279
Just look at benchmarks and reviews and see how they compare, easiest thing to do really.
>>317722308
>XP driver search being worth a shit
That sure isn't the XP I remember
>>317710197
Do you mean OCPD, friend? Surely someone with your condition would know the difference.
>>317722578
Corsair is quite reputable, anon.
>>317722558
>It is 50 bucks cause of Black Friday
>>317710391
but anon, you ordered the right sized mobo the first time ;^)
Standart ATX is a meme
>>317722143
is it the TJ11 anon?
>>317711883
I've been overclocking for 12 years and never had such an issue.
>>317722436
>10 GB of ram
What....
>>317722678
>sales do not count
You can find something similar for around the same price any day of the year. Someone ALWAYS has a reputable name brand PSU on sale, do you people just buy everything at MSRP? Do you enjoy your 5000 dollar PC's?
>>317722574
>10gb of ram
I think it's 8+2 but as I said, I have no clue when it comes to computers aside from cleaning it and installing basic things.
>>317722661
Of all the brands /v/ will recommend you buy, corsair and EVGA probably rank the two lowest PSU brands you should buy.
>>317722776
2x4GB and 2x1GB I guess.
>>317722883
But then you are not running the 4GB in dual channel and since you are never going to use that extra 2GB anyway you are just slowing your computer down.
>>317722874
>EVGA PSUs
>shit
Come on, if you want to talk shit then at least do your research. Old EVGA PSUs were indeed junk, but the G2 and P2 series are pretty much the best money can buy
>>317722874
And /v/ rarely knows shit, so why would I listen to it? Literally anywhere else on the internet disagrees.
So it's the word of every PC site on Earth vs a group of people well known to lie and fuck with others for personal enjoyment. Tough choice.
>>317722874
EVGA maybe, but corsair has historically been a VERY strong psu brand especially considering historically they'v contracted seasonic, the highest quality psu makers in the business, to rebrand their products under the corsair name. I've had a corsair 600w for what, 3 years now, and it hasn't had any issues. It even saved my system after a blackout
>>317722505
>sustained transfer speed is the only merit to SSDs
o-ok then, anon, you clearly know my use case better than I do
>>317721845
The fact is you can run an i7 + 980ti on a decent quality bronze 450w PSU no problems. Nothing wrong in spending $50 on a PSU for anything other a very high level enthusiast PC.
>>317723094
Didn't EVGA change their manufacturers to China awhile back and then there was a dip in quality?
I'm dumb so insult me and all, but will I just be pissing my money away on this build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q3Gm99
>>317722874
That's because /v/ is filled with tech illiterates.
Corsair is pretty damn reliable, assuming you aren't buying their retarded eco-friendly line. EVGA is a bit more of a wildcard, but they're still more reliable than Rosewill, who make cheap PSUs are about as reliable as a black man getting paid to squeal.
>>317722874
Kek what is this bullshit
>>317723262
>960
>>317722874
>buy corsair psu 3-4 years ago
>have 8 years warranty
fag
Holy shit, I love these threads, they make me laugh better than any YLYL and other shit like that
Best parts are when you can relate to some fuck up
>decide to clean CPU cooler, because the case hasn't been cleaned for who knows how many years
>it's a carpet down there
>take off cooler
>notice thermal paste
>first time hearing about it
>what could go wrong
>run my PC for a week without thermal paste on CPU, even playing games
>works to this day
>>317723256
Most PSUs are made in China, including the ultra high quality ones used in servers. The PSUs I mentioned are built by Superflower to fucking autistic specifications, the performance you get out of those things is absolutely ludicrous. I have no idea about the other series they make though
>>317723431
What do you recommend for the same or less price then? I refuse to go up.
>>317712007
>start studying in uni 3 months ago
>different town, living alone
>don't remember the taste of fruits or vegetables, get like 600 kcal daily intake if I don't eat some chips or go for fast food with friends
At least I still have enough power to shitpost
>>317722114
This was when the GTX570 was pretty new, kid.
>>317708494
That is not how computers work, son.
>>317718353
>ultra @ 1440 with shadows/gd toned down
>ultra
>not really ultra
top kek
>>317723631
280x
128bit bus in 2015 is absolutely fucking retarded.
>>317723883
>playing with shadows up
They're barely noticable and almost no graphical option kills performance more.
>>317712071
>buy mobo+cpu+ram combo from friend
>first time taking out and putting shit from the case other than coolers and shit
>takes hours
>BSOD, because I need to reinstall windows, because of new components
>build it back to the old build to backup some files
>build it back to the new build
>knock the fucking half working GPU to the ground, drops on the plate where connectors like VGA and HDMI go
>seems like no damage
>shits the bed 3 months later
>one month left on warranty, no fucking serial number sticker on the goddamn GPU because of 80C melts the glue on the sticker
>>317722874
>>317722661
>>317713212 here
You morons need to understand that when people are recommending something, they're recommending a particular model, not a brand.
Brand means fucking nothing. EVGAs supernova G2s are great. EVGAs supernova G1 are shit. Why? Because brands means fucking nothing, all they do is to pick a manufacturer and then slap their name onto it. Same for Corsair.
It's like saying Dragon Age 2 is good because it's Bioware and Bioware also made kotor and Baldurs Gate.
See how fucking dumb you've just made yourself look like?
>>317723908
According to GPUBoss they are nearly identical and rated exactly the same.
>>317721484
fucking christ these just brought back a memory
>friend is building a pc
>hey anon what do those do
>tell him to look at his motherboard's instruction booklet for the diagram
>'oh I threw that away'
>mfw
>>317724093
>GPUBoss
Stop talking information from that shilling website
>>317723908
>radeon card with intel processor
is the difference between a 980 and 970 really worth the almost double jump in price?
>>317724093
>GPUBoss
>>317724228
Why? Give me a reason to not believe them and instead believe you? Its your reputation (0) vs theirs.
>>317715326
I got a samsung 830 128 GB in 2012. Still have the same space used, 105 GB free. I have blacks that are doing 120 MB/s with my games and that's all I need.
>>317724327
>/v/ computer advice
>280x with a fucking intel processor
>need to buy an expensive PSU because higher price=better
>recommending people cases from 2008
Please, stop.
>>317724365
It is widely known fact that GPUboss shills for Nvidia.
http://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/43790-misinformation-regarding-gpuboss
Not just this. A simple search on google will turn up more info.
>>317723956
Still not playing on ultra m8.
>>317724483
>le old case is bad
???
>>317724483
>>317724239
Hey /g/ your fucking shitty 2010 meme about Radeon cards and Intel processors is old.
>>317724483
How exactly is a AMD gfx card paired with an intel cpu bad?
>>317707724I bought an APUyes I'll kill myself
>>317724567
>Any modern mobo has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but (Old well liked) Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.
>>317714058
Hey Bart! I loved your show when I was growing up.
>>317714514
>buy 212 evo
>goddamn, installing the backplate is pain, case doesn't have a cutout on the other side, so have to take the whole mobo
>can't screw the cooler in place, it's just not fucking reaching it, I will break the goddamn steel
>watch tutorials on youtube
Goddamn, why couldn't they make the fucking screws 5mm longer, you have to screw them in in correct order and even then it's requires some tard strength to reach
>>317724782
I'd ask you ??? in return. What was the point of posting your speccy?
>>317724747
Use a converter for the front ports.
Plug USB 3.0 devices to your backpanel.
>>317724851
Are you blind? Do share what is wrong with my 4670 with 290x?
>>317724873
Or just buy a non-ancient case and save yourself the fucking trouble. The haf, for instance, isn't any fucking cheaper than other modern cases you WON'T need to fuck around and buy converters for.
>>317724851
???????????????????????he replied to amd+intel post smhfam
>>317724975
People recommend old cases because most of the time, it is the same casing they have been using till today.
>>317724972
No one stated you cannot run the two or they will not work. And a speccy shot will not prove or disprove whether you are getting as good performance. Basically this cannot be proven or disproven unless you have a few PC's with different cards, different processors etc and high end games to test them with. And I doubt you or I have 10+G's to do this little experiement.
>>317725069
And do you have any information to backup your meme sir?
>>317725205
No? Do you? If you don't want to believe it, that's fine, but a lack of proof is not somehow proof to the contrary.
>>317723956
low settings shadows look like ass, I'd rather turn off shadows entirely and block my mind from knowing about shadows than play with a fucking black square on the ground
>>317725271
You are the one to make the claim senpai
Or do you not know how burden of proof works?
>>317721536
Well, it's ATX compatible. So unless you're going with a micro itx build or all mobo sizing standards changed suddenly, I'm pretty sure it will work
>>317725401
Go check low vs maxed shadows on witcher, they're almost identical and don't do the block effect. On fallout you do sort of get the block effect on lower shadow settings, especially when godrays comes into effect but it will do that even when you set them to ultra
>>317725401
Unless you are severely autistic there is no noticeable difference in Witcher 3 for the shadows when are actually playing the game.
http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-shadow-quality-interactive-comparison-1-ultra-vs-medium.html
>>317720801
>GPU dies
>no on board graphics
>it before fucking christmas
>I get my fucking GPU after new years
thank god I was a wee lad and got presents on christmas so I managed to live through those 2-3 horrible weeks
>>317725624
Compatibility issue is probably the front ports not being USB 3
>>317721484
Are these the front panel audio ? because they look the same, but don't remember then being named like that
anyhow, I was happily surprised when bought a new yet cheap and shitty case and it had front panel audio as a solid block connector
>>317723170
That's cutting it a bit fine, but you could get away with it as long as you knew what you were doing and exactly the specs on the PSU, and how much wattage was on the 12v rail etc. My cousin has an oc'd i5 and a 780ti running of a Corsair CX500 that cost £40 no problems.
>>317725748
Oh, yeah I guess. I almost never use front USB because my case's front ports suck dick. YOu can always get one of those front USB3 ios in 3.5" slot or something
>>317722031
>bought evo 212
>didn't even look at any "specs", just read about it a lot on 4chan and other review sites that it's one of the best price/performance coolers
>case doesn't close
>no worries, don't care
>buy a new case half a year later
>looked for one where it would fit
>still fucking warps the side panel of the case, but atleast fits
Bit late to the game but I build a computer with a large chunk of my student loan back in 2004.
Fucking well didn't use thermal paste on the cpu, as I had no idea it existed or why you needed it.
Also didn't use mounts to attach the motherboard to my case.
So for months my PC ran like shit and kept turning off for the above reasons and I had no idea why till a friend saved me from my faggotry.
>>317722379
Have you never moved house?
>>317722308
>>317722643
I had to reinstall win7 on some laptop not too long ago and I remember it not getting any drivers because I couldn't connect it wirelessly to internet, had to manually download all the drivers
Sure as hell XP didn't have that too
Okay, here's the dumbest fucking thing I've done related to building a PC.
>get some money and order a new gaming pc
>order every single component - none of the old shit is used in this new wonder, all of the new stuff is pretty damn good/expensive
>stuff starts arriving - I look with glee at the new powerful stuff I'll get to enjoy
>I only need the new cabinet, everything else is ready. Cabinet takes forever to arrive and days go by while I'm being impatient
>Finally the cabinet gets here! I'm excited as hell and open the box and... what the fuck? This isn't the cabinet I ordered!
>I look at it and it looks all fucking weird. It doesn't look like a normal cabinet at all... the box shows the right box but this isn't it?!
>welp, I live a 40 minutes drive away from the store, so I immediately pack it up and go confront them with their mistake
>the guy behind the counter is the fattest and saddest looking shit I've ever seen. He seemed like he wanted to commit suicide, but he couldn't be bothered to actually do it because he was too lazy.
>I put the cabinet on the counter. "Hey, look at this case I just got from you. You can see that's not what I got, right?"
>Fat guy takes a loooong look at the case, doesn't touch it at all. "... nah, I can't see that."
>"What do you mean?! It's not like the stuff I ordered, model XXXXX - look at the front of the box, it doesn't look like this model at all"
1/2
>>317722436
>HP
sell it like it's hot
oh wait, it is
>>317726140
>Fat guy takes an even longer look at the box, his fat arms still hanging. Can't even be bothered to look closely. "... I don't know what you mean", he just about manages to mumble.
>I'm getting a bit upset at this point. I turn the cabinet around and point - "Look right here! There are supposed to be holes for water cooling here, and there isn't any. It's not the same cabinet as shown on the box!"
>Fat guy stands quietly for a moment, looking at the box, looking at the cabinet, looking at me. "... you know it's turned on its back, right?"
>Fuck. Me.
>in my eager to build my mustard race PC I just turned the cabinet the way it was set in the box, which means it's standing on the backside, front up in the air. I was so blinded with excitement and disappointment that I couldn't even put it together.
>I look at the box, the cabinet and the fat guy. I quickly do a mental check - is there any way to get out of this looking something intelligent? No there isn't.
>"... well", I say with a sickly smile, trying to laugh it off, "now you have a new funny story for the coworkers.
>"... yes, I have", responds the fat guy.
I wish I could say it was the first PC I'd built, or that I was young and naive, but that wasn't the case. It was probably the 4th PC I'd built from scratch, and I had never had any serious problems with it. I was just being a dumb fuck.
I work in tech support now and every time I get a dumb as shit customer I remember that I fucked up once too.
>>317723161
You should be looking at 4k random read/write
>normal SSD
>30mb/s
>kingston v300
>12mb/s
>>317725669
That's not bad, I'm more used to playing games where max shadows mean they look like shadows and low shadows mean that you get to watch 144p version of shadows that are blockier than minecraft. When that's the case, I'd rather not have any shadows than that ridiculous bullshit
>>317725816
That's a different one, this is power, reset, disk activity etc. Good mobos come with a nice header that you can plug them all into before plugging them in the board.
>>317726419
I think I only had like 3 or 4 cables for that, like power, reset, HDD led and that's all I remember, but the mobo is old and the case is shit, so not much more to connect
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