More censoring from Nintendo.
Don't want to offend those druken dirty Indians.
>>317507753
>From Nintendo
>From Nintendo.
Get your facts straight nigga.
>>317507753
its not censorship just poor westernization/localization
it almost looks the same except the slight amount of extra skin. Its still stupid though but I will pirate and patch it out like I did the last game.
>>317508949
It is censorship. It's an attempt to be politically correct by not having a character in stereotypical Native American garb, only it backfires horribly by replacing it with a cowboy.
>>317508949
>Implying Native americans aren't commonly known in the west
Did you even think about what you wrote?
>>317507753
for fuck's sake this is like the 6th thread today
>>317507753
There's already a thread exactly like this one.
At least fill that one with whining before making another one that will also reach post limit with whining.
Has anybody here had sex? I was curious what it's like.
>not liking cowgirls
cute cowgirl > smelly indian
>>317510131
>BUT MUH PRINCIPLES
>MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE
>MUH SJW
>>317510127
Like bags of sand
>>317507753
>Nintendo
Squeenix is the publisher this time.
Changing it into a cowboy is probably even more offensive to the indians
>>317507753
westernization in the most literal sense
>>317510478
Is there even any proof these are the same class or job or whatever they call it in this series?
>>317510686
Sidewinder = サイドワインダー
they're using the same attack
>>317507753
>>317507753
There's literally no proof that these are the same outfits. This whole shitstorm was sparked by some anon who browsed the Spanish store and saw the cowboy screenshot and assumed its her native costume. They even have two complete different names. Instead of assuming they "censored" this outfit by changing it completely and renamed it, maybe assume its just two different outfits and the anon either trolling or being an idiot?
>>317507753
Oh cool, I always thought it was weird how a character called Amy Matchlock was a native american and not a cowboy.
T H E C U R R E N T Y E A R
>>317510805
They could just share that attack. It's not too far-fetched
>>317510805
Doesn't bravely let you combine classes? It could be that, or they just share the attack.
>>317511007
The hairstyle's the same.
>>317510996
what the fuck
It's Square Enix's doing,not Nintendo.
>>317510805
They're not the same character.
The one on the left is Magnolia and the one on the right is Amy.
>>317511164
>character has hairstyle
>hairstyle stays between jobs
Like, I'm not saying it isn't the same job, but I think we need more info.
>>317507753
Assassin's Creed 3 and Prey had Native American people and cultures and no one was offended.
No need for Bravely Second to be censored. How would this offend anyone if Assassin's Creed 3 and Prey didn't?
>>317511525
Well, connor wasn't exactly a very stereotypical native american
>>317511462
Friend, you are being willfully ignorant. Hairstyles change with jobs a lot. The fringe bangs and the plait are only used in Magnolia's Flintlocke and Astrologer jobs.
>>317511525
>How would this offend anyone if Assassin's Creed 3 and Prey didn't?
Because they didn't play up the sexy mystical indian stereotype. A better way to handle this would've just been to dress her more like a human being.
That said, it is kinda strange how this class came to be in the first place. Their main weapon is gun, not axe and the asterisk holder is named more reminiscent of cowboys.
>>317511736
It can be anything else. The first game allowed us to combine classes so things like using the same attacks means nothing at this point. There's also the possibility of game now allowing some minor customization to each class outfit, as well maybe even eating us wear different outfits for different classes. I mean, do we even know if this is a class bound outfit and not just an optional outfit you can unlock after beating this tanned looking girl? It literally can be anything else. It's way too early to go creating storms based off one anon assumption. Seriously, it's literally a guess from an anon. How low are we stooping /v/?
>>317512002
>dress her more like a human being
Humans are just meat, meant for consumption. Dress any way you wish, we, the dinosaurs, will gnaw your flesh and crack your bones. Run or surrender, it matters not. All will perish.
>>317507753
>I can't blame Square, no siree
>>317507753
>turning a Native American into a cowboy
Talk about whitewashing. I won't be buying this oppressive product.
>>317511736
317512371 here.
There has already been confirmation that there will be alternate costumes in the game, as well as the game allowing you to cross class skills. This whole thing is stupid. Idiots are buttblasted by the recent xenoblade and other game censorship and are now jumping to every conclusion so easily. This is honestly going to be funny when sme trolls dedicate time to duping the gullible idiots next.
>>317509137
>Native American
I don't see any America lands in Luxendarc, do you?
I just see a bitch in tasseled leather with some feathers, like she killed what she turned into her outfits.
I don't get why people care about shit like this and the Xenosaga costume changes. I mean, I know you want your weenies to twitch while playing video games, I know that's the real reason, but what's the reason you're telling people you care about? They're not excising actual game content (no, breast sliders are not game content). The gameplay doesn't change just because the costume looks like a cowboy instead of an Indian.
>>317513134
>visuals aren't actual game content.
Lets give everyone low-poly models and no colors other than grey. No voice acting. Let's just label them. That's it.
After all... they're not excising actual game content.
>>317513134
Oh man, so many.
>>317513134
Censorship is telling a man that he cannot have a steak because a baby cannot chew it.
>>317513402
Okay, well, you win the bingo card and the game is still coming out. Looks like everyone wins.
>>317513340
Whoa, whoa, careful there. I almost slipped on that slope!
>>317507753
Another game to add to my boycott list. Get fucked Nintendo.
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Dragon Quest VII and VIII
>Bravely Second
>Fatal Frame 5
>>317514158
>Whoa, whoa, careful there. I almost slipped on that slope!
I'm not saying they'll actually do it. I'm saying you'll be okay with it.
>>317512002
>dress her more like a human being.
IT'S FUCKING FANTASY YOU DENSE WHORE
>>317507753
>Nintendo
>Square published
>Not knowing that you can use different class moves while not in that class
Did you niggers even play BD?
>>317510996
SWEDEN YES
>>317507753
SE is doing it for money.
If they didn't censor it then the game would be banned from the state of california
>>317514256
You should start adding companies to that.
Which is all of them because they all censor games the difference is that you're clearly bias towards Nintendo.
If it's not the same costume, which class is it?
>>317507753
>be native american and your offended about the change turning it from a proud powerful native american to the people who killed your people call square racist.
>complain and have people reblog and retweet it
>square enix looks like racists
>profit
if you fags just complain on here you look like fucking retards
>>317514973
>implying this is a class and not just an alt costume
That or what this anon said about the classes >>317514762
>>317507753
that's beyond censorship
really fuck'd up
OH BOY MORE MONEY I GET TO SAVE
NINTENDO IS MY FAVOURITE VIDYA COMPANY BECAUSE THEY LOOK OUT FOR THE CONSUMER
THEY SAVE ME MORE MONEY THAN FUCKING GEICO
>ITS JUST A RUMOR
Looks it up. Theres no cowgirl costume in the japanese version. Im still buying it anyway so whatever.
>>317513025
It doesn't matter. They don't even care about video games. They're just using this game to further their own agenda/causes. If I didn't know any better, it almost feels like they think gamers need them to defend their hobbies for them.
It's funny, the NeoFag mod didn't mind the indian designs in Horizon. Literally ok when Sony does it. Fucking faggots.
>>317515354
What agenda, anon?
>>317508639
>>317508939
>>317510301
>>317511317
>>317512774
>>317514762
Yeah it's not like Nintendo would have any say in what is released exclusively on a Nintendo platform.
The game hasn't gone golden master yet. Email Nintendo and Squenix, there is hope that they'll still change it if enough people make noise.
>>317513134
That's the thing, they don't care. I have been calling them out for a while now. These censorship-fags do not care about the video game. They're just hijacking it for their own agenda. They are SJWs in all but name. They've became the very thing they are supposedly fighting against. Fuck both of them.
>>317510996
>America 2016
Good job, beta american keks.
Donald Trump will ruin this world but it's still better than having THIS in my media.
>>317510127
It's okay. Pretty overhyped overall, but I would do it again.
7/10 I guess.
>>317515328
>Theres no cowgirl costume in the japanese version.
Did you check for DLC?
I remember the first BD had DLC that made it into the full release overseas
>>317514256
Dragon quest 7 wasn't changed at all only 8 was and that was present in the jp version of the remake
>>317514256
>Dragon Quest VII and VIII
Wot m8?
>>317507753
those feathers are so fucking cute
why the fuck would they do that?
>>317515594
>Yeah it's not like Nintendo would have any say in what is released exclusively on a Nintendo platform.
Not when someone else is publishing it. Any changes made to the game are of their or the creator's choice.
>>317515481
You damn well know what agenda, anon. The absolute of 'oppose censorship in any form' agenda.
>>317515619
Is there any evidence to support your claims?
>>317515776
I'm not supporting the entire series on principle. I don't give a single fuck if the series dies in the west again. I'd rather it die than be bastardized like this.
>>317515710
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Bravely_Second_Downloadable_Content
Not there either. This is no rumor and IS censored
>>317515594
Oh right how could I forget, that's why we never got Senran Kagura.
>>317515885
Wait, so it was IS's idea to censor Tharja's bikini in the US DLC?
>>317515710
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Bravely_Second_Downloadable_Content
It's not a DLC costume.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Bravely_Second:_End_Layer_Jobs
It's not an original job, either.
It's the new Tomahawk.
I'm getting JP consoles from Nintendo from now on.
There's honestly no reason for me to get the NA consoles just to wait and get what is essentially a fansub with fanart months later.
Hell yeah the rest of the world gets the exclusive cowboy hat content
>>317515642
>thinking that Trump is going to ruin anything
We're going to make America great again.
>>317516074
No shit, sherlock. That's how localization works. Got to keep that T rating somehow.
>>317516236
I think they said with the next console they'll be doing away with region-locking.
Of course... that might just be another lie.
>>317516363
>thinking that Tharja's bikini would have jeopardized the T rating
off yourself
does DLC even get rated
>>317516236
Are you going to get JP games for other systems too?
Or are you going to support censorship for everyone but Nintendo?
>>317510996
>Muslim is the only fucking normal acting person in the group
Converting.
>>317515195
Why do people still buy Nintendo games at all? The localization teams have responded to your complaints, they have literally said that not only do they not care, they think you're pathetic and will never change their ways. Both the WiiU and the 3DS have been hacked, just wait for the inevitable uncensored patch, or, if you don't want to wait that long, at least pirate the censored version so Nintendo doesn't get your money. But, of course, gamers are pathetic addicts, so we all know they're just going to buy it on day one anyway.
>>317516090
So there's no head accessories in the game either?
>>317516449
what vita games have been censored lately, my good man?
>>317516495
I haven't bought a Wii U game since Smash.
Or a 3DS game since Smash.
>>317515930
Have you SEEN any given /v/ thread the past few weeks?
>>317516449
Of course I do. They're not region locked and moon turned out to be a really easy language to learn once I realized thatPokemon required more memorization than kanji ever could
Boycott SE
>>317516510
Accessories aren't visible, but last I checked it was all rings and gauntlets.
>>317515642
If this gets dubs,Trump will be the true and best 44th President!
>>317516707
I never ever buy SE games except Dragon Quest and Deus Ex, nothing else matters.
>>317516485
Remove kebab
Who
fucking
cares
>>317515930
>Not sure if serious...
Anon, have you been to any of these 'muh censorship' threads? Because the 'muh censorship' fags has been speaking in such absolutes that it's outright idiotic. If they actually cared about video games, then they wouldn't use words such as 'Oppose censorship in any form' or 'Won't buy it because of their principle'. Because clearly video games are the only thing with censorship in them. If they're going to deal in absolutes, then they better be able to choke a bitch with their minds because otherwise it's a biggest pile of hypocrisy I have seen in a while.
>>317507753
CHOOSE WISELY
>>317507753
>kill native american themed enemy
>become a cowboy
unless they are changing the boss as well this is the most racist localization change ever
>>317516549
Monster Monpiece
Criminal Girls
Dungeon Travelers 2
I think Senran Kagura has some subtle censorship too.
>>317516707
Some of you neckbeards are alright. Don't go to NOA's headquarters if you're in the northwest.
happening thread will be posted tomorrow.
so long /v/irgins.
>>317517050
A lot of people itt, apparently. Why post here if you dont?
>>317517050
A lot of people actually.
>>317517184
Oh and for PS4 Street Fighter has been censored.
>>317517113
You're under the impression that we buy anything other than video games and food.
>>317517184
>Nisa games
That's cheating, anon.
And Senran Kagura is just the ages removed from the manual for future reference.
>>317507753
>feathered headdress replaced with hat
>braids replaced with flowing bangs
>censoring
It's localization, retard. That's like saying removing the prayer beads from the Medium sprites in Pokemon GSC is censorship, too.
The first one was cencored too and a week after it was released noone gave a fuck anymore
>>317507753
>>Don't want to offend those druken dirty Indians.
>take native american design
>replace it with a cowboy design
It's almost like a metaphor of western imperialism and genocide. It's literally whitewashing.
As someone of native heritage, I'm actually more offended by the censorship than the original.
>>317517184
Senran has only ever had the names removed. At least in NA. The Yurope version I think had the dressing room dialog translations removed.
>>317517328
The internet has censorship laws. This very anonymous imageboard as well. Do you not see how utterly hypocritical it is to be posting on this website about not using or buying anything that has censorship in it?
>>317517184
pretty sure someone will rip english sub into jp version when custom firmware comes
>edea lee riding cowgirl style.
I approve of this censorship
>>317517484
>And Senran Kagura is just the ages removed from the manual for future reference.
For America, Australia and Europe got the short end of the stick.
That aside Nisa shouldn't be censoring games on such a niche system. The 3DS at least has the numbers to somewhat justify it.
The Vita though? That thing is only owned by people who care.
>>317517652
>I'm actually more offended by the censorship than the original
That's the way it should be. This is idiotic localizing.
>>317517706
>Wah wah, why aren't you boycotting literally everything, then!?
Is this the only argument you liberal faggots can ever come up with?
>>317517217
>>317517243
Oh look, they think they're people
>>317517743
It's almost like the outfits are different or something.
>>317517561
It is.
>oh my god we can't expose American children to religious references that aren't Judeo-Christian!
They pulled similar shit by removing the Yin/Yang theme from Reshiram/Zekrom's Pokedex description.
>>317517804
If you don't want me to use that argument, then stop speaking in absolutes.
>>317517747
NISA is a company filled with literal retards, Anon.
>>317516045
DID SOMEONE SAY SENRAN KAGURA
>>317517804
>liberal
fucking conservakeks and their strawmen
>>317517743
>one has connotations of adultery in America
>the other is closer to this and is also on a system being aimed at the "mature" audiences as opposed to everyone
>>317517918
That's a pretty misleading thing to say considering it's references to judeo-christian themes that get the most blotting out in stateside releases.
>>317517925
I'm speaking in absolutes regarding video games.
I can try and make a difference with video games because these companies need my business.
Moot2 can just tell me to fuck off and I'll have to fuck off because this service is F R E E
I don't get these threads
It's just people crying about a thing
It won't change anything
>>317517743
>BD characters are children
>Lightning isn't
>Lightning's outfit isn't even half as lewd
>Lightning is also Toriyama's waifu
>>317517898
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Lightning_Returns:_Final_Fantasy_XIII_Garbs
>>317518073
That's not true. Threads like these have kept me from buying censored products. These are all about letting consumers know what shit corporations are doing "on our behalf."
>>317518069
>these companies need my business
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>317518128
>children
No
>>317518069
In that case, post your entire video game collection so I can call you a hypocrite if you own any game that has any sort of censorship in it.
>>317507753
>square enix and Nintendo are the same companies now
>>317517743
Both show belly. One was censored to not show belly.
It's not that hard to understand.
>>317518040
Check both games' ESRB for what type of content they have. Both are for the same audience.
>>317518128
Do children not show their bellies in America? Because everywhere else in the western world they do. Also, those BD characters aren't children. They're teenagers and they definitely do show their bellies.
>all localization changes are censorship
>transliterating names is censorship
>changing sushi items into burgers and localizing other cultural references is censorship
>removing japanesisms like honorifics is censorship
>making any changes at all to the game script or graphics in the localization process is censorship
>translating the game at all is censorship
We need to stop this meme
>>317518128
>lightning's outfit isn't even half as lewd
The shit in Lightning Returns puts some fetish hentai to shame.
>>317517184
Good thing I also boycotted those games.
>>317518271
>Threads like these have kept me from buying censored products.
So, why are you still on /v/ if you've stopped buying censored products?
Also if you care about censored products wouldn't you cause a stir where it actually matters rather than just /v/?
>>317517918
That's still not censorship. It's only because Americans are some of the biggest babies you'll ever have the misfortune of dealing with. I'm cool with keeping the Buddhist and Taoist stuff in games. I mean, hell, Pokemon is already accused of being witchcraft, and games like SMT sell fine in the states. Seriously though, as stupid as removing it is, it's better than having to read/hear the same things on an hourly basis.
>THIS IS HARMFUL TO MY CHILD WAAH THIS DOESNT PANDER TO ME GODDAMN LIBRUL AGENDA
>>317518338
>Implying logic means anything to /v/ anymore.
>>317517935
So what does that mean you should do?
Come on, you can do it anon.
>>317517743
square enix and Nintendo are 2 different companies
>>317518409
What are you even talking about? I just want to be informed about censorship to save myself from giving money to shitty companies. It's pretty simple, numbnuts.
>>317507753
your lil bitch tears are delicious, keep cryin
>>317518053
Possibly, though I was more thinking on the lines of how they kept what was obviously a Church in Black/White but removed references to Taoism.
>>317518128
They aged up the characters in the US release anyway. I don't know why they have to do further censoring after that.
There's covering her up, but the cowboy hat? They really censored this for cultural appropriation?
>>317518352
Notice only weebs freak out about "censoring" Japanese shit. If devs were changing kebabs and prayer rugs for Hinduism, nobody would give a shit.
>>317518352
I can forgive changing names 95% of the time.
I can understand changing jap culture jokes to memes, even though I hate it.
I get changing food to be items that locals understand.
I understand changing -san to Mr.
But stop fucking with the script and cosmetics.
I know a way that could settle all this.
Release an OPTIONAL patch that will revert the visuals to the original. Optional. Hell, even have us confirm our ages or some shit if that's what it takes. Christ.
But an optional patch would be nice.
>>317518473
Yup, you prove it doesn't. Nintendo is the one that put the effort into localizing Bravely Default. Of course, the ones localizing a game being the ones to censor it is only logical so that is the reason idiots like you think Nintendo had nothing to do with it.
>>317518616
I'm still mad about Ocarina of Time's Mirror Shield change.
>>317518549
Then why are you still spending money on video games when pretty much every company censors their games in every corner of the planet?
It's simple enough to understand anon, buying video games in general is supporting censorship.
>>317518456
> it's better than having to read/hear the same things on an hourly basis.
>THIS IS HARMFUL TO MY CHILD WAAH THIS DOESNT PANDER TO ME GODDAMN LIBRUL AGENDA
So you're saying you're fine with loud morons dictate what themes and imagery are in the media you want to consume?
Wow. I can't believe people are trying to defend such awful cultural appropriation. My ancestors are not a costume for you to wear. This change is for the better.
>>317518616
I would
>>317518687
>Hell, even have us confirm our ages or some shit if that's what it takes
Well, the problem here isn't that the character is dressed skimpily or showing a lot of skin... so the age confirmation has nothing to do with it
The developers outright changed the class from an Indian to a cowboy
>>317518616
I would care, why would you say that I wouldn't?
>>317518616
I remember they removed the Muslim chanting from Ocarina of Time 3D.
Still mad fuck. It sounded cool in the original.
>>317507753
actually the left one looks generic.
what a shame.
>>317518687
>Release an OPTIONAL patch that will revert the visuals to the original. Optional. Hell, even have us confirm our ages or some shit if that's what it takes. Christ.
>kid has system
>YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER TO DOWNLOAD PATCH!
>type in 59
>hit accept
As for parental controls, who the fuck uses them?I mean I know I do because there are games I don't want my cousin to fuck around with.Kid deleted my Mario Kart DS save on two separate occasions.
>>317518618
Those are stupid, but it's not censorship. Censorship basically became 4chan's misogyny, people getting up in arms and calling any and all localization changes censorship to earn themselves some social struggle points on a popular game.
>>317518914
Have them give you a confirmation screen that you are not a Native American. Problem solved.
>>317518743
no, stop being dumb.
>>317507753
This is literally the same thread as before.
Why has nobody reported you for spamming the catalog?
>>317518537
Point and giggle at them as they slowly go out of business?
This thread has gotten in the way of me watching Digimon Tri.
Fuck you guys.
>>317518540
Both games are from Square Enix.
>>317518743
>when pretty much every company censors their games in every corner of the planet?
That isn't true.
>>317519050
But the topic this thread is actually about is censorship.
>>317519163
Ah denial, we all fall into it at some point but now it's your turn anon.
>>317519196
No leave it, it contains their discussion here so they don't drag down other threads.
Where is sage yulyana?
>>317519050
Localization changes are things like translating jokes into memes and turning Japanese food into American food.
Censorship is changing costumes and art to be less offensive.
>>317510258
You get it.
Cowgirls are cute.
>>317519050
Literally yes it is.
>>317515986
You fags are just as ignorant as the SJWs you fight against.
Are you suggesting that devs aren't allowed to change their work?
Are you...are you trying to censor their voice?And here, /v/ has gone full circle.
>>317519297
>Australia can't have certain games
>Western games get censored in Japan see: Fallout, Saints Row and Until Dawn
>Europe deals with the same censorship as America with the addition of a few American games
Yeah sure.
>>317519280
and the image is blaming Nintendo for some reason
>>317519642
If they wanted it to be a Cowboy they'd have made it a Cowboy the first time they did it.
>>317519383
I don't give a fuck.
Mods can shut down vidya discussions that are kept to 1-2 threads but dipshits like this can make the same thread over and over again without getting banned?
Fuck off!
>>317519690
That's because /v/ hates Nintendo.
Why do you think there's only like 2 or 3 good Nintendo threads at a time?
>>317519752
>But muh Fallout thread
>>317519724
I'm talking about DQ8 you mongoloid.
For what purpose?
>>317519035
So? Nintendo still puts that shit in so they must think that someone uses it.
>>317519864
If they wanted it to be X it'd be X the first time, unless it's X literally everywhere.
>>317509137
Well and anyways, the feathers and traditional garb are ceremonial for modernized Indians. They dress like white people most of the time. The only real difference I would suggest would be an eagle or hawk feather on the hat band, rather than whatever that is.
That's the one concession you sometimes see. That, or a nice piece of silver jewelry or two. Maybe a belt buckle.
>>317519648
Australia not allowed certain games to exist doesn't mean that the companies are censoring games there, it's quite the opposite. They aren't allowed there because they refused to censor themselves.
>Western games get censored in Japan see: Fallout, Saints Row and Until Dawn
I would certainly boycott those titles.
>Europe deals with the same censorship as America
I think a lot of that is from shared localization teams, but European countries have a lot of state-level censorship, like Germany, for example.
I was talking about companies censoring things for release in the country I live, I was not talking about foreign governments engaging in censorship.
everyone shut up and post cowgirls.
>>317519642
It's not the developers changing it, it's a third party, namely the publisher, forcing the change for the localization out of fear of offense. This is definitive censorship.
>>317519690
Because one of those games was released on a Nintendo console and was censored. Whereas the other one was not on a Nintendo console and not censored.
A bloo bloo bloo hoo no pixel loli girls to jerk off to!
Stay retarded you keks
>>317507753
kept midriff so I'm okay with this
cowgirls are cuter anyway
>>317520249
Shortstack not loli
>>317520054
The outfit changes in the USA version are in the JPN version too.
So it literally is X everywhere.
This shit is retarded, just makes me tired and sad.
I just don't even anymore.
>>317520249
>I don't know what loli is
Stay retarded too, you "kek"
>>317520316
>implying retards that use "bloo bloo" as an insult can tell the difference
don't waste your time mate
>>317519642
But at least you've found a way to feel superior to everyone.
>>317519752
They'll do it for 5 years straight. You underestimate 4chan's posters.
>>317519603
Edea lee riding Cowgirl
>>317507753
Don't blame that shit on us. I'm a drunken dirty Indian and I would have never even know that's what that AM I KAWAII UGUU shit character was supposed to look like.
Also, we in general don't get offended by anything aside of being told our BIA applications have been turned down.
>>317520326
What were the changes?
Is it a more conservative outfit?
Every time a virgin cries an angel gets its wings
>>317520556
you're not another faggot that hates super deformed, are you?
>people who don't even read the thread think this is about "muh sexy costumes"
>>317519642
>We're just as bad as them!
Oh look there's that stupid argument again. Keep defending this desecration of a beloved series instead of standing up for your rights as a consumer. Go fuck yourself.
>>317520548
>Edea in a cowgirl outfit
You just opened my eyes. This change is amazing
>>317520567
It's a mix.
>>317518773
When you put it that way, you're right. You checked me, anon.
Why can't all Western devs be based like the Nips?
>>317507753
>censorship is now a buzzword
Why you do this
>>317520734
It looks like shit on that ugly bulma
>>317520548
>Edea Lee riding REVERSE cowgirl
>>317520816
Shitposting fuel.
>>317520774
Because they are cowards who work for shareholders, not for themselves.
>WAAAAH I DONT GET TO SEXUALIZE CHILDREN IN MY VIDEO GAMES
Grow up. This shit doesnt belong in a video game. You people insult NoA all the time but if it weren't for them you wouldnkt be able to enjoy the games. Seriously, censorship has never made a game worse. It has always fixed games.
>>317520691
>>317520862
Sitting on top of alternis!
>>317519690
Because Nintendo PUBLISHED BD is the west. It was Nintendo's decision, not SE's. SE doesn't give a shit.
>>317520816
>using a word correctly means it's a buzzword
Why do you do this
>>317520991
>children
>being this stupid
Censorship does nothing but cloud jugdement and embrace ignorance. Localizing just helps keep people close-minded.
>>317520991
This isn't about sexualization you mongoloid.
She shows almost just as much skin in both outfits.
It's about the slaughter of the Native American people.
Images of the four wearing tomahawk uniforms?
>>317520567
Some outfits became conservative but others became arguably sluttier.
>Magic gun weilding cowboys/girls instead of smelly, hairy, dumb Indians
It's like you DON'T want an entire party of Hol Horse.
>>317521308
>Wanting an entire party of traitorous cowards
Not really no
>>317521192
Not talking about the op, but things in general. People will literally not buy vita games because disgusting lolis no longer show bare ass. You people are sick and disgusting to want to sexualize pure innocent children.
>>317521192
I suddenly don't care anymore.
>>317515594
Remember Cammy in SNES?
Pirate/ninja/cowboy/knight team!
>>317521308
>native americans are indians
This is why localizing can be a bad thing.
>>317520483
I don't give a fuck one way or another, I'm honestly more crossed about seeing this shit everyday without fail at all hours when the point had already been made.
>>317521402
>You people
Nice try faggot I don't own a vita and giant bouncing tits >>>>>>>>>>> loli shit
>>317521076
Where's your concrete proof? It's pure speculation. Fuck off, Destructoid shill
>censoring the clothing of a noble indian culture to replace it with the uniform of the swaggering, racist white people
THIS LOCALIZATION IS RACIST AS FUCK!
#INDIANLIVESMATTER #DEPORTALLWHITES #STUMPTHETRUMP #PROVEMEWRONG #2015
>>317521402
Loli stopped me from buying criminal girls just because it made me uncomfortable even with the censorship.
But if they have post-puberty features like breasts and hips then there really shouldn't be an issue.
>>317521709
But even then you're objectifying women
Why can't women have the same muscular role as men for once? Any game with them as a protag either gives them no character or makes them a floating pair of tits.
>>317521614
>cowboy outfit is literally not in the game in Japan
What more proof do you really need?
>>317520690
>SJW's will bitch and moan until a creator decides to change their product
>ACB's will bitch and moan if they perceive one element being changed from the original.
>SJW's will divert discussion and preemptively silence opposition by calling them misogynists.
>ACB's will divert discussion and preemptively silence opposition by calling them SJWs
>SJWs complain about games they have no plans on buying
>ACBs complain about games they have no plans on buying new
>SJWs will use social media outlets as their own personal soapbox to spread the word, even when nobody wants to talk about it anymore
>ACBs will use 4chan as their own personal soapbox to spread the word, even when nobody wants to talk about it anymore.
I could go on.
>>317521825
Because then you'll complain they're just ms males.
>>317521825
>implying women never get the muscular role
How much are they going to censor the ff7 remake?
that shit was full of "sexism/racism". Just look at RED XIII. Are they going to change his name to Cowboy XIII?
>>317510281
I found the only good post in this thread
>>317522116
It was a desperate 40 year old virgin reference that didn't even properly fit the question.
It's a terrible post, and should be changed during localization.
>>317521402
This is a textbook example of a strawman argument.
>>317521857
I have to say though SJWs have a bit more dedication in their form of crazy bullshit.
After all they get media recognition and people change things for them. ACBs on the other hand just shitpost here rather than take the tactics of the SJWs.
>>317522106
Pretty everything you can think of will be censored.
Even Palmer getting run over. It'll be considered too violent now.
>>317510127
It's pretty great man, just make sure to be great with cardio or your thrusts might be in vain unless you're a two pump chump.
>>317522449
That's because most SJW's are women, and you can't tell a woman "no." because IT'S 2015 COME ON
>>317521857
>>317522449
what the fuck is an ABC
>>317522449
That just makes ACBs more pathetic
>>317522630
Anti-Censorship Brigade
>>317522630
ITS EASY AS1 2 3
>>317522685
why is there a term that is derogatory for people who don't like censorship
>>317521472
Yeah, because what 4chan is, is a website that caters to you specifically, right?
>>317522536
Same could go for the ACBs, after all I doubt it's just men.
Hell, I've seen them use caps of females arguing about censorship although if it's legitimate or not remains to be seen.
Anyway, they never even lift a finger and think that the problem magically solves itself when you ignore it.
>>317522743
Because only fuckwads think that enjoying your games censored is a good thing.
So they have to label everyone with a brain something stupid to justify it to themselves.
>I WANT CENSORSHIP DADDY NINTENDO PLEASE EDIT MY GAMES FOR ME
>>317522743
It's a forced meme.
Not one that's going to take off.
>>317522872
>nintendo
>game is being developed and published by square enix
ebin
>>317507753
Jesus Christ, this nightmare never ends.
I hope you're all bitching to Reggie to let him now how pissed you are over this and aren't just going to lie back and take it up the ass.
>>317522840
>Same could go for the ACBs, after all I doubt it's just men.
>Hell, I've seen them use caps of females arguing about censorship although if it's legitimate or not remains to be seen.
Internalized misogyny.
>>317522743
Because of fags like >>317522818 who do nothing but spam the catalog with the same shit over and over again, even when everyone has already decided on where they stand on the issue, without a trace of self-awareness or irony.
Then you have fags like this >>317522872 that think that just because you don't feel strongly about the issue, it means that you support censorship, or worse, openly support companies gutting large swathes of the game for no reason rather than simply being tired of having most threads about a particular game being dedicated to one element that's not nearly as big a deal as they make it out to be.
Finally, you have degenerates, like the guy who sent dog gore to that Allison chick, and the herd of neckbeards patting themselves on the back for basically fucking over the cause for the less insane members who wanted to find some common ground.
Overall, same reason I don't like MRAs or people who identify as being "anti-X" in general.
>>317522743
Because
1) The hypocrisy involved in their arguments after all they say "all censorship is bad" and yet ignore other forms and their general lack of understanding of what censorship actually is.
2) Not knowing who to throw their arguments at as is the case here where people are throwing it at Nintendo rather than Square
3) Just like SJWs they're ruining video games but on the other side of the coin. They're refusing to buy the games while at the same time not voicing their concerns to the people that matter instead they choose to bitch on here.
I could go on but you get the picture.
>>317517581
They lost a ton of potential sales. The game barely cracked the 1 million mark, even though the 3DS install base is huge.
>>317523286
wait a second
you don't want to discuss this particular topic again
but you're in this thread
why don't you go post in one of the other threads? there are so many other threads
>>317523359
>The hypocrisy involved in their arguments after all they say "all censorship is bad" and yet ignore other forms
what forms? why don't you make a thread if there's another instance of censorship going on that you care about?
>They're refusing to buy the games while at the same time not voicing their concerns to the people that matter instead they choose to bitch on here.
why do you assume that no one is sending any emails to square enix about this? emails are easy to make and send
>>317517581
>tfw really liked what I played of it, but just stopped playing a few hours in and never felt like touching it again
It was like the game just wanted me to go in too many different directions at once to unlock things. Given the option to do everything I will always choose to do nothing etc.
>>317523286
>the cause for the less insane members who wanted to find some common ground.
Is common ground a term meaning "Don't censor my shit and I give you my money"????
>>317523442
>The game barely cracked the 1 million mark, even though the 3DS install base is huge.
That's fine for a niche and censored game with a relatively low budget.
If you want to look at a game that sold poorly look at none other than Project X Zone.
No censorship.
Adequate translation.
Didn't even reach half a million.
>>317523286
Listen, we all know bitching here doesn't do anything.
But backflipping in your mind to where you think "I like this idea! I want my games to be edited by committees without my consent!" to the point where you actively DEFEND companies doing this on forums like /v/ makes you a megafaggot. It makes you such a keked faggot that you are unable to differentiate something in your mind that should be automatically considered bad.
You can say "OH BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT THO" all you want, if you genuinely didn't care you wouldn't want it, because you wouldn't want your games to be edited out the ass for the benefit of a publisher's PR campaign. you wouldn't be making up excuses and justifications in your mind as to why you didn't REALLY want to play the original game. That's what a faggot who is lying to himself does.
You want to support editing games like this because it's easy for you. It's easy for you to sit back in your computer chair and say "lele got you faggots :^)" while not actually contributing anything to any discussion. The only reason you're doing it is because you're a whipped dog that doesn't want to put any mental power into the issue you're arguing for.
You really are a selfish retard.
>>317523442
1 million is quite a bit for such a small budget game
>>317521857
>Sjw's are wrong.
>ACB'S are right.
i see no problem with this.
Fuck this shit. Now to see how bad the Exorcist will end.
>>317523584
It's because he's lying to you about his motives.
His only goal is to redefine the concept of censorship to a narrow and irrelevant area and to demoralize opposition to censorship.
>>317523761
>If you want to look at a game that sold poorly look at none other than Project X Zone.
Project X Zone was awful, though. There wasn't any real reason for people to care about it.
>>317523761
True, that game was a pile of shit.
>>317522716
andDo-Re-Mi!
>>317523584
>why don't you make a thread if there's another instance of censorship going on that you care about?
Because I don't particularly care at this point. I'm too old to try and change censorship in video games or make a huge fuss about it again.
>why do you assume that no one is sending any emails to square enix about this? emails are easy to make and send
And it's also common knowledge that the e-mails are largely useless because no one ever responds to them except the automated reply.
>>317515161
>>317514762
>>317514973
It's the Tomawhawk class. It's their first ability, even. Not sure about "alternate costumes" since that was never a thing in the first BD
http://finalfantasy.neoseeker.com/wiki/Tomahawk_%28Bravely_Second%29
>>317524039
>Literally "Who cares anymore lol" tier argument
>>317524076
>since that was never a thing in the first BD
Except it was but for characters rather than individual classes.
Again with this shit. With all these edits lately I really glad I learned moon.
>>317523789
Indeed. It's how it should be.
>>317510996
i'm not a pedo but those are the most intense fuck me eyes i've ever seen
>>317524143
Hardly, it's more of a
>you're young, why aren't you trying to do something like I did?
argument.
>>317519903
I fucking knew as soon as I saw that sexy lewd native that it would be censored hardcore in NA and EU. I'm hating fucking NA even more now.
>>317524294
They'll suit him well when he's selling oranges.
>>317524308
>Like I did
What did you do, gramps? You're like, what, 27?
>mfw I'm going to buy it and it'll reach 1 million sales, just like the first game
>mfw retards on here are going to shit the bed because they think a handful of sony fags looking for shitpost fuel are going to 'boycott' it
Top kek
Nintendo killing the gameindustri since 1995.
>>317524517
You never answered the first part.
>>317524432
>But Sony
Every time
>>317524517
Go play video games while you can move your fingers properly, gramps.
>>317521308
>/v/ has gone so fed up with retarded censorship that now they set up a delusion that this is okay and openly accepts the censorship while bashing the original
We chaos;head now?
>>317524523
>only one not trying to turn video games into artwork but rather keep them as games
Okay.
>>317524432
>it'll reach 1 million sales
Not likely. I'd wager 600k. The game was well received, but not many seemed to play very far into it.
So are you guys actually going to do something about this censorship? Write letters, start petitions, burn down the localisation teams houses or something
Or is your end game just constantly posting about it on 4chan making it impossible to talk about the 99.99% of the game that isn't censored?
>>317524432
This. Gonna be real funny when it turns out just as successful as Bravely Default.
Also is Boycott the new meme word for this board?
>>317524654
>not trying to turn games into artwork
>literally making statues and selling them
>keeping them as games
>implying they aren't turning them into digital toys
>>317524654
>Artwork isn't censored
>Games are
I'll take art for 500.
>>317524654
>thinking that Xboners are trying to turn Forza or Halo into works of art
lmao
>>317524590
>You never answered the first part.
So you can just question me and shout "Why is it still here huh?"
>>317524674
Even still, 600k is still pretty damn good for some niche jrpg.
>>317524842
Halo is literally a political agenda mixed with an esports cash-in.
>>317524728
>Write letters, start petitions
I've been doing this for every Nintendo exclusive localization since fucking Smash and it's done shit all except have Lillian from NoA support get audibly fed up with me calling.
>>317524728
How about you stop thinking like an underage retard and accept the inevitable? We can send letters, we can email them, we can burn their establishment and it will still not change. Blame the American system.
>>317524908
>final fantasy
>niche jrpg
>>317524826
Not him but artwork gets censored quite a bit to the point where some of it can't even go to certain areas of the world.
>>317523736
That's basically impossible at this point but at least there was a chance that we could've gotten them to see our point.
Rather than sending dog gore and making the rest of us look like psycho-pedos.
>>317524405
Not that turd, but it was easier when the chucklefucks were trying to use the State. You could give money to the ACLU and the EFF for legal challenges (how the CDA was invalidated).
Now they're going the conservative-Walmart route of using the market power of private industry in areas of low competition, and the EFF has been infected with the garbage.
>>317524967
It's not Final Fantasy though?
>>317524728
I've emailed Nintendo and Square almost any chance I got.
I don't think it does anything, but they do reply to my emails and they do say that they've been getting lots of feedback regarding this 'issue'. Does it change anything in this stage of life? Probably not. We got those screenshots because they're close to shipping. They're not going to stop the process now to replace the models.
>>317523286
Yep. You really do think this site exists to cater to you.
>>317524967
>final fantasy game
>worth shit on a store shelf without the name
>>317524967
>BD is FF
>>317524996
Then can they make where I live one of those places and stop giving me this censored trash?
The neogaf thread fucking hurts me. How does a gaming website end up like this? Plenty of racism against japanese people goes by perfectly fine, but a neat native asterisk holder and its class design is OVER THE LINE.
Thanks Ninty
>>317524996
Protip: if art can't go somewhere, it hasn't been censored enough
>>317518616
Then the weeb are the only sensible people? These aren't localization changes.
So, we're getting an exclusive cowboy hat?
Neat.
WHERE DO I E-MAIL SE AT
>>317525098
I'm not the one making the same thread six times in a row.
If anything, you fags think this site caters to your moralfaggotry more than it does to discussions on vidya.
Go to reddit if you want an audience for your soapbox faggot, at least there you'd MRA's who'd be willing to stand by you rather than trying to force people into sharing your opinion.
>>317507753
How is this in any way, shape or form, censorship? They look COMPLETELY different. The outfit that was 'supposedly' censored doesn't even look remotely lewd.
They're either two completely different outfits that you can get in game, or they westernized it for some reason. Either of which are not censorship. Learn what the word means you illiterate cunts.
>>317507753
At least not The nidriff is not censored.Next step is wearing Burka.
>>317521825
So apparently samus doesnt exist you?
did you know that peach even have her own game?
fuck off with your feminist bullshit
>>317507753
I'm pretty sure the one on the left is Magnolia.
>>317525165
That's all the problem of your society not the people who make the art.
>>317525358
Read the thread.
>>317525184
Look at this thread.
It happens because faggots, like the ones in this thread, slowly start to 'accept' it, as the norm. Anyone who doesn't toe their political line? faggots who need to get banned.
So they become more and more anti-freedom and pro-censorship until eventually everyone on the site thinks that way.
We get the runoff here on threads like this because the neogaf kiddies figured out they can come here part-time and get the attention their parents won't give them.
Just look at some of the posts and how most of them are recycled neogaf arguments about how "censorship is good and lel i'm not even mad".
Do you think those kind of people are old enough to post on 4chan? I don't.
As long as Amy herself doesn't changed I'll take the silly cowboy hat.
Though looking at the rest of Magnolia's job costumes I'm wondering how they'll change them.
>>317525357
We're discussing censorship in vidya.
>>317525358
It's literally censorship.
The Indian costume in unacceptable for the West, so it is suppressed and replaced by a Cowboy.
That is the LITERAL definition of that word, you little faggot.
>>317525358
They westernized it by colonizing it and slaughtering the poor native americans.
Makes me wonder if the way you obtain it will be different, too.
The cowboy outfit is confirmed not in the JP game.
>>317525357
What in the fuck does this have to do with MRAs? I don't see any mutilated cocks in Nintendo games.
>>317525291
>Sensible
>lol I don't care about censorship if I can get around it or if it doesn't affect my hobby!
>fuck we've tried sending e-mails but nothing happens. Going outside is pointless too.
>shitposting when they've already convinced themselves they aren't going to change anything
>sensible
>>317507753
Is this just some massive joke everyone is in on because those two are not the same people and there IS a gun wielding class in BS so that might be what the Cowboy is.
>>317525358
>Learn what the word means
>he says this as he completely misinterprets the word
my sides
I bet the Euro version doesn't have this.
>>317525357
No.
Stop thinking this place exists to cater to you. Threads and discussions shouldn't be banned because you don't like it.
Is it on-topic? Then it shouldn't go away because it upsets you.
Also: I love your feverishly emotional arguments that lay blame on me specifically for something you cannot prove I have, or have not done. Nice job, you woman.
>>317510127
Not worth the work getting it the normal way, but very fun if casual encounter or with prostitute. Best bet is to become a regular at an AMP.
>>317523781
Listen friend, censorship has existed since literacy and printed type.
Everything in the world has been censored to some degree, everything, every. fucking. thing that you enjoy has been censored in some way shape or form before it actually got to your hands.
Maybe it was a deleted scene that the director thought wouldn't fit in the narrative, maybe it was a few chapters that got edited out before it was sent to print, maybe it was a level or something that got dummied out while the game was in beta.
The point is that something got cut/altered/rewritten/etc. before it was made available commercially yet most people will accept this for what it is because that's the territory that comes when you try to make a name for yourself in the entertainment business.
>It's easy for you to sit back in your computer chair and say "lele got you faggots :^)" while not actually contributing anything to any discussion.
It's also easy to repeat yourself over and over again to an audience of braying retards who only want to complain and shitpost while lying down and taking it up the arse because they know how futile it is.
>>317525660
https://archive.is/bm7yt
>''This is a new form of censorship that's come into being in this country,'' said Oliver Stone, whose director's cut of ''Natural Born Killers'' was banned by Blockbuster, Kmart and Wal-Mart. ''Essentially, it's the sanitization of entertainment. Studios like Warner Brothers won't even release a film rated NC-17. They point to economic pressure from Blockbuster and Wal-Mart, who won't carry those videos. People don't understand how much power these corporations have.''
>>317509137
I don't think you know what censorship is
>>317523789
>>317524214
>SJW's organize raids and get shit done
>ACB's shitpost on 4chan don't get nothing done
You fags should take lessons from tumblr, maybe then you'd actually get your way.
>Even Neogaf is tired of Neogaf
>>317525824
You're equating all changes done to being the same as censorship, and that simply isn't true.
If a level gets removed because people find it offensive, that's censorship. If a level gets removed because the developer doesn't think it's fun, that's not censorship.
Does censorship happen behind the scenes? Absolutely.
Does that mean we shouldn't call it out when we see it in the open?
Absolutely not.
>>317526094
They blame it on SJWs being women when they have women in their ranks themselves.
>>317526019
cen·sor·ship
ˈsensərˌSHip/
noun
noun: censorship
the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts.
>>317525645
That would be the Tomahawk class.
As in the Indian.
Because the Cowboy ISN'T IN THE FUCKING JAPANESE GAME READ THE FUCKING THREAD RETARD.
>yfw you're going to buy it
>yfw sony drones are mad that they don't get this literal masterpiece on their systems.
>>317517804
>I have no rebutal I'll just shitpost
Every time
>>317525824
>Listen friend, censorship has existed since literacy and printed type.
And you're yet to explain why this is a good thing. Isn't that great? Your best argument is that "It's always been done, I mean, great dictators and totalitarians enjoyed censorship a whole lot, so what's the big deal?" Seriously. This is how dumb you sound.
You can make strawmen all you want how the 'director' wanted it, but the director had zero input into this because we're talking about the localization. The localization is done by localization teams, IE committees of people who aren't related to the original development. These committees only care about the PR of the studio and not the artistic vision of the developer.
Which is why the cocksucking pisses off any sane person on /v/. It's easy to repeat yourself over and over again (like you're doing?), but it's even easier to lay down, take it up the ass, and then scream "Oh please put it harder up my ass. Oh those other games? I want you to shove it in their ass as well. I love it! :^) Silly faggot you should like taking it up the ass as much as I do!" Which is what you're saying every time you write one of these cocksucking posts about how much you enjoy getting your games edited because you're too lazy to make actual arguments.
>>317525915
>all forms of censorship are the same
>you can only call it censorship if your product is being banned from stores or has to be edited to be sold at all.
Stop. You're a moron.
>>317526135
>inb4 self censorship
>>317526245
O-ok
>>317525915
https://archive.is/3s2kU
This one is also pretty fun, given that MTV has been colonized.
>>317526389
>Don't read the thread
>Comment on the thread as if you have
>>317526209
Explain how the localisation process to pertain to certain cultures is censorship.
By that merit it shouldn't be in English.
>>317526271
>yfw you're going to pirate it
>yfw you get to enjoy the gameplay without supporting the censorship
>yfw you're not going to post stupid console war bullshit on /v/
>>317526427
My bad. I'll do better next time, friend.
>>317526472
>It's just the localization process
>Putting it in English is censorship because it's originally Japanese :^^^^)^)^)^^^^)))
>It's just self-censorship in that case!!!!!!
Hahahahahaha
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
>>317526472
Changing a language isn't suppression.
Unless it's being translated from Irish/Navajo to English I guess.
>>317526472
>Explain how the localisation process to pertain to certain cultures is censorship.
cen·sor·ship
ˈsensərˌSHip/
noun
noun: censorship
the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts.
>such as foreign culture that companies may deem too 'complicated' for western audiences.
>>317525609
So you think it is just something to shut up and accept. Good to know.
>>317525575
You're discussing politics that tangibly relate to vidya you cockhead.
It's no better than talking about a car or tattoos because it features video game characters and shit.
>>317525602
You're both essentially anti-SJWs who make yourselves look like fools and would rather complain than actually going out to get some shit done.
I mean, I'd love to see censorship going away but that's just not possible when you consider that this has been going on for centuries.
>>317525775
It's not on topic though.
This has as much to do with vidya as a "what games should I play to be less of a sadsack because my gf left me for another guy" thread.
If anything, this is /pol/ shit since the actual discussions don't even mention elements of the game most of the time.
>>317526304
I think the moron is you, goofygoblin, which is probably why you don't know how to read, and start pissing in the wrong direction.
You should also note the date of that article when considering the person you were responding to.
>>317526575
Prove it wrong.
>>317526472
Localization is turning a onigiri into a donut.
Censorship is turning a bikini into a burqa.
>>317526780
>Censorship of vidya isn't vidya it's /pol/ shit
Fuck off back to where you belong.
The >>>/trash/
>>317526780
So pretty much nothing to do with MRAs.
You should go back to reddit now, SRS.
You can go talk about all ten MRAs in the world there. :^)
>>317525491
I think people wouldn't be nearly as against censorship if you fags didn't spam the catalog with this shit for weeks on end.
It's really your fault honestly.
>>317526780
Game censorship is fairly recent. Barely 30 years old. And complaints do matter and is about the only thing people can do.
>>317526271
>implying Vitadrones don't typically own a 3DS as well
>>317526472
The definitions of censorship and suppression would actually imply that it's censorship to not release a product in another country that you typically sell to.
>>317526096
He's banned now. That was quick.
>>317526472
I'm not saying this is the case, but don't you see how a company changing the outfit of a character because they're afraid of backlash from online groups is negative to a creative industry?
>>317526918
>I think people wouldn't be nearly as against censorship if you fags didn't spam the catalog with this shit for weeks on end.
I don't make the threads. I just post in them.
You're posting in them too.
>>317526793
Translating parts that don't make sense to somebody that doesn't speak Japanese, and making it read in a way that isn't gibberish, I.E Moonrunes to English, is not censorship.
Changing a pun that literally only makes sense when read in moonrunes to an English pun that fits in the same context is not censorship because it falls under the above situation.
Changing a costume to another costume because MUH OPPRESSED MINORITIES! is.
>>317526556
>yfw you're waiting for 3ds emulation because fuck buying anything nintendo
>yfw all these censored games will be getting romhacks that will pull the JP assets back in
>yfw nintendrones will still be bitching about NoA, and can't do jack shit because of region locking
>>317525184
Makes sense to me. We need to protect minorities from those fucking perverted japanese.
>>317526782
>goofygoblin
every
single
time
also what does the date of the article have anything to do with this discussion?
it's been done in the past so it's okay to keep doing it in the future?
it's not new so you need to shut up and bend over?
>>317526996
Anyone who steps out of line gets shot there. It's really a travesty.
It's why we need to shout down the faggots that want to turn this place into there.
>>317526556
>ignoring the censorship is somehow going to stop it
You're literally doing nothing to stop it.
You're worse than the people that don't care and just buy the game.
>>317527078
>waiting for 3ds emulation
>>317527142
>giving monetary compensation for a censored product is better than not buying a product at all
hehehehehe
>>317527136
>Anyone who steps out of line gets shot there. It's really a travesty.
I used to think people were exaggerating, but it's pretty damn bad when they'll even ban a representative from a localization company for not being offended enough by tits in videogames.
>>317527109
You're really dense.
I want you to point to someplace where I wrote it was acceptable.
You goofygoblins are so retarded.
>>317527320
>le gg meme
>>317507753
rev up those censorship apologists
>>317527109
The year of a publication is used to assess credibility and relevancy.
That article is 20 years old, and can't really be considered an accurate representation of the modern era.
does the non localize copy come with English options like last time?
>>317527226
Nigga I have a backlog that would make you faint. I can spare waiting a decade
So if you are really bothered by censorship why haven't you graduated from being an EOP yet?
What is this turn of discussion where people absolutely must go for change about this censorship situation? It is basically impossible. Especially for bull headed corporations like Square Enix and Nintendo. That is the entire reason people are frustrated. At least stuff like Xseed and other smaller companies can be reasoned with. But forget it for mega companies.
>>317527437EOP is a retarded name because the majority of multilingual people don't know japanese.
>>317527437
Because I'm busy learning Russian for when they're the only sane "Western" country left in a few years.
>>317526302
Sometimes it's easier to remove an offending element to avoid controversy than to risk your name, your business, your game and future titles, etc. on the off-chance that someone out there won't just decide to pirate your game anyways.
I'm not saying it's right or that it's justified, I'm just saying that businesses look out for their bottom line, even if it's unjustified in the long run.
>It's easy to repeat yourself over and over again (like you're doing?)
Again, not the one making the same thread over and over again, shame you can't see the irony.
>but it's even easier to lay down, take it up the ass, and then scream "Oh please put it harder up my ass. Oh those other games? I want you to shove it in their ass as well. I love it! :^) Silly faggot you should like taking it up the ass as much as I do!"
Stop putting words in my mouth anon, that's not what I said and you know it.
God, and you people are surprised that people have gotten sick of you at this point?
>Which is what you're saying every time you write one of these cocksucking posts about how much you enjoy getting your games edited because you're too lazy to make actual arguments.
Point out where I said I enjoyed censorship.
it seems /v/ is no better than neogaf these days
>>317513025
Please, show the the costume that looks almost exactly the same as Tomahawk's except for it having a cowboy hat and the same pants, except long. Fucking moron.
>>317527379
It's actually an example of how what you retards are doing has been going on for decades and was considered censorship before you were even born, underagedb&.
>>317527320
Then why exactly did you reply to my post?
And why do you keep saying such silly things like "goofygoblins"? What does that have to do with this conversation?
>>317527379
I would argue that it actually is still relatively accurate, for movies and video games at least. Ratings are still important, and media will be censored if it doesn't quite fit into the target rating category (I think movies are a bigger offender, the difference of ticket sales between R rated films and PG-13 rated ones is quite large). It just doesn't have much to do with the particular reply chain.
>>317527437
バカ先輩です
>>317527563
NYASHNJ BLYAT CYKA
>Sony games receive literal censorship
>Rightfully bombs and sells like shit
>Nintendo game receives localization changes
>Will sell well enough to ensure we get more entries in the series
This is the difference between censorship and localization.
OP's pic is the literal definition of a localization change.
Pic related is actual censorship.
Sony drones on suicide watch tbqh family.
>>317512642
>Lizard people actively shit posting on 4chan
all those fallout threads suddenly make sense.
2spooky
>>317527601
/v/ might be shit, but nobody's ever been banned here for making fun of a gaming "journalist".
>>317527487
In theory if everyone was to boycott it and write them or post on social media explaining why, then the company would change their ways.
In practice, most people don't even realize that these games come from another country to begin with. When they see a commercial for it, they assume that it's being made in their home country and that it was never released anywhere else.
The mass market is scary.
>>317527437
I'm got realkana up right now. One day I will become a non-pleb.
>>317527703
>No Nintendo's isn't censorship
Kek whatever you say, fag.
>>317527538
In terms of playing games no other languages even matter outside of than English and Japanese.
>>317510996
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>>317527703
I think I may have a fetish for censorship before and after images now.
That one basically looks like most of them are undressing.
>>317527703
>Nintendrone brings up Sony
>Then pretends his shit doesn't smell
>Then brags about eating it
You guys are objectifying women and it's sexist
>>317527320
its censorship
they changed it so it would not offend people
ergo they censored the original work by replacing it with something else
The same thing happens in movies with theatrical versions and uncut versions.
>>317527823On se revoit dans Rayman 4
It's a real shame you can't have an argument in good faith about this sort of thing. Speak a word against it and people shit their pants and start everybody pedophiles. The idea of "adults" conducting themselves like that terrifies me.
>>317526871
You're no better than SJW's who invent reasons for why Super Mario Bros. is sexist or how Samus is actually trans.
If it has anything to do with vidya then why isn't vidya being brought up?
It's always about the censorship, not the game.
>>317526897
I'm sorry, I'm not the one making a thousand threads for censored titties.
Did you know, MRA's actually hate censorship as much as you do, maybe you should discuss it on /r/MRA where you belong.
>>317526943
Complaining doesn't do shit outside your echo chamber faggot.
Everyone here either already hates censorship or hate the fags who spam this shit more than the actual censorship.
If you want to get shit done, take some lessons from SJW's since they actually go out and start raids, go on social media, and generally get the word out as quickly (and loudly) as possible.
But then again, shitposting is easier and you can at least pretend to be doing something productive (as if!)
>>317527960
Objectify this
*unzips dick*
>>317526780
>You're both essentially anti-SJWs who make yourselves look like fools and would rather complain than actually going out to get some shit done.
but youre the one complaining
>>317527940
>Nintendo games good enough to sell on their merits despite censoring
>Sony games so shit that their only merit was the skimpy clothes and now that they're gone there's no reason to buy them
>>317528109
*sucks chinchin*
>>317527576
>Sometimes it's easier to remove an offending element to avoid controversy than to risk your name, your business, your game and future titles, etc. on the off-chance that someone out there won't just decide to pirate your game anyways.
Except by making this change, they've already done far more harm to all of those things by showing the world that they're white-washing a character class.
If they didn't do it, no one would have noticed.
The very fact that you think that they HAD to make this change, that their very name depended on making this change that is blowing up in their faces right now, proves you are an idiot. Especially when the ESRB wouldn't have said shit about it, and this is entirely self-imposed by a committee who had no hand in the original creative design.
The fact that you defend this is proof enough that you're either baiting or straight-up a hypocritical, selfish idiot. People are more sick of your kind trying to turn this place into neogaf and reddit.
>Again, not the one making the same thread over and over again, shame you can't see the irony.
Neither am I, we're just two people posting in it. Shame you can't see the stupidity of blaming all of it on a single person like you've done in your mind.
You're perpetuating it as much as I am because every time you respond, you bump the thread. So how is that going for you? Winning that GREAT WAR of yours by constantly bumping these threads which inform people of the censorship?
>>317527538
Maybe they should.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775272.html
>>317528107
>SJW's who invent reasons for why Super Mario Bros. is sexist or how Samus is actually trans.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.
We've got solid before-after pictures of media being censored, and you think it's on the same level as fanfiction?
And obviously we are talking about vidya, not only in this specific case, but also as a medium.
>>317515885
Nintendo is publishing BD2 though
>>317527960
I know this is a joking post, but even as somebody that'd be considered an SJW by /v/'s standards, showing some skin isn't sexist. Even if it's a game all about fanservice like Senran Kagura, that alone doesn't make a game qualify as sexist.
we're all going to hell
>>317527703
and the edited pics would of never made it on a nintendo console
never
ever
plus, spats and leotards are hotter
>>317528107
I'm military. I'm not allowed to show a stance on social media.
This is the only place that I can speak my mind.
>>317528107
>If it has anything to do with vidya then why isn't vidya being brought up?
>It's always about the censorship, not the game.
What the literal fuck are you talking about, you massive fucking retard? The censorship is the thing people have issues with. What the FUCK do you want us to do?
>Man this game is censored. That sucks. I dislike this.
>But MAN DID YOU SEE THAT GAMEPLAY OHHOHOHOHOH BABBY GIMMIE DAT GIMMIE DAT GAME SE GIMMIE DAT DAMN THIS LOOKS GREAT I LOVE THIS GAME
>But yeah it's censored and I don't want it...
>BUT MAN IT LOOKS GOOD HERE'S ALL THE GAMEPLAY, LET'S DISCUSS THE GAMEPLAY WE ALL KNOW IS THE EXACT SAME, BEFORE THE GAME RELEASES SO WE CAN PLAY IT
>But man the censorship tho
WHAT
THE
FUCK
DO
YOU
WANT
KID?
>>317527136
Going onto a video game forum to shout your political stances on non-issues is as foolish as spamming hardcore hentai and being surprised when your shit gets you banned.
Then again, neoGAF actually carries some weight in the industry so I guess that's why they're so anal about shutting down faggotry before it can spread.
>>317528250
I wonder where the data comes from. I'm obviously not polled about this, so it must come from somewhere else. Do I not count as an English speaker since I live in Quebec? Do I count because of my browser history?
I have some serious doubts about Spanish being more widespread than English, considering the latter is the language of commerce.
>>317507753
I was gonna agree if Nintendo published it like BD1, but this one's published by SE.
And Nintendo allowed SK to release on the 3DS with no issues, so don't even start with that.
>>317507753
>rumour
It's not even the same character
>>317528286
stop ruining my joke
>>317528107
>Don't talk about the part everyone is bitching about, only talk about the game itself so nobody knows it's censored.
??????
>being shocked by neogaf being shit
You're talking about the site with users who seriously think that Etrian Odyssey, a T-rated videogame, qualifies as child pornography for having dancer classes despite the fact that you can find similar characters in games as mainstream as FF4.
>>317528443
Does Canada not do a Census?
>>317528381
>plus, spats and leotards are hotter
Cowgirls are hotter than indians. :^)
Two can play that game, friendo.
>>317527226
>>giving monetary compensation for a censored product is better than not buying a product and not doing a thing about future censored products in general
"hehehehehe" indeed.
>>317528423
>Going onto a video game forum to shout your political stances on non-issues is as foolish as spamming hardcore hentai and being surprised when your shit gets you banned.
Hahahah, You don't believe that, do you faggot? The thread is there to support all discussion regarding it. Guess what? Localization changes are discussion regarding the game.
At least I understand that there really ARE people trying to turn /v/ into neogaf now.
>Then again, neoGAF actually carries some weight in the industry
Neogaf has become the laughing stock of the industry. That's why no one does any AMAs there anymore. Anyone serious has moved on to other communities and forums because they don't like giving presentations in orwellian environments as much as anyone else.
Shill harder, neofag.
>>317528240
Let's be completely honest here.
There are more people who'd rather see threads like these die than there are people who actually give a fuck about this one way or another.
You're not changing any minds here, neither of us are.
And even if I ignored this thread and it eventually died, OP would just make another thread shortly afterwards, like he has for the last few hours after every single thread got 404'd by the bump limit.
It's basically like how people got sick of seeing FO4 or undertale threads, except this shit goes on for days with no sign of stopping.
>>317528534
Apparently there's one every ten years? That's what google tells me anyway.
Doesn't change that the English numbers are suspiciously low.
>>317528423
>Going onto a video game forum to shout your political stances on non-issues is as foolish as spamming hardcore hentai and being surprised when your shit gets you banned.
going on Neogaf and discussing ANYTHING is grounds for a ban.
I've seen people post about wanting to buy Neptunia in the Vita thread and get banned for it.
Anything that's not 100% approved by the nazi moderators is grounds for a ban. It's not about censorship or politics, it's about how neogaf is completely devoid of any meaningful discussion because of how tightly regulated all discussion is.
It's a hellhole.
I think Nintendo is fatphobic because wii fit trainer isnt healthier just because shes skinny.
fucking fatphobic assholes
>>317528667
>not doing a thing
what exactly should I do?
domestic terrorism?
sending some emails?
>>317528776
>There are more people who'd rather see threads like these die than there are people who actually give a fuck about this one way or another.
We're at 400 posts, rapidly approaching 500. These threads have been going all day.
If you actually wanted these threads dead, you wouldn't post in them. But you do it anyway, because you like it. You love the idea that you're getting your little rocks off on arguments on /v/.
Nothing is stopping you from just closing the tab. There's a little x right up there that would require one click and you'd never have to post in another one of these threads again.
The only reason these threads last so long is because of people like You and I arguing, so what is keeping you here? I'm here because I genuinely fucking hate this practice and want it to stop. But you? You said it yourself. You don't give a shit. So why keep coming back?
I don't know who OP is, but I enjoy being able to come here and discuss the changes with /v/ because literally no other place on the internet lets me do that. Everyone else on the internet has already knelt down and asked for localization jizz on their face.
>>317528776
>I'm right because people can't ignore threads about shit they don't like
>the post
>>317528457
Different character, same outfit.
Here's the character from the left wearing the outfit on the right.
The cowboy outfit isn't in the Japanese version at all. It's a replacement and it's using the ability from the Tomahawk job.
>>317507753
For once this isn't NoA's doing retard
>>317528960
He wants you to do absolutely nothing, because he's a dishonest propagandist.
And if you're dumb enough to call for anything like brigading here he's going to have you dealt with.
Cowgirls are cuter.
>>317528960
So you see those SJWs?
See what they're doing?
Do that and never stop.
>>317528776
>I'm too stupid to hide threads so I'll just post again about how justified I am to bump the thread that I hate once more
You're really only proving that you're more fit for a place like Reddit than 4chan.
>>317529164
threaten myself on twitter?
>>317528265
Point out one post ITT that actually talked about the game.
Just one.
I'll wait.
>>317528395
So you're sackless, cowardly, and a disgrace to your uniform.
Good job!
>>317528401
Explain why this is an issue that deserves six threads in one day when this is no worse than the censorship that has happened in the 80's and 90's.
I mean, FFVI had the Siren's sprite being altered to show off less ass, but you don't see people making threads about that, or any of the other cases of censorship that has been happening for the last, hmm...centuries.
>>317528496
You can talk about censorship all you want.
Just take it to /pol/ where you belong.
>>317528776
If people don't want to see a thread then they can hide it.
If people weren't interested in the topic then the thread would die.
>>317529085
They don't care.
Hell if it were on a Sony or Microsoft system they would still say something like
>well Nintendo started a precedent!
>>317526780
Yeah, you're pretty much demanding that an entire website stop and immediately cater to you.
>>317529152
No they aren't.
Humba Wumba > Your cowgirl shit
>>317528148
So are you, what's your point?
It's not like people don't complain about SJW's complaining about non-issues that don't matter either.
>>317529286
this is the first one I found
here
>>317507753
>>317529308
Nice strawman. I've been one of the people actually enjoying Bravely Default all the way through.
>>317529282
Get a job as a localizer and xenophobically impose your tastes on your customers.
Major in some worthless humanities program and then protest until the university expands the number of positions for people with worthless humanities degrees.
Colonize every forum of discussion and fake injuries for penalty kicks.
>>317529286
>Video game censorship should not be discussed on the video game board.
>Stuff was censored in the past so it's ok to do it now.
I hope you aren't black or jewish, anon.
Or a woman.
Because then you can get the fuck off the Internet right now.
>>317528692
Still more influencial than this shithole.
Or do you think spamming the same thread will help get it exposure?
>>317529282
Threaten yourself
Threaten other people
Say that as a trans woman you feel oppressed that they can't have more revealing outfits. Hell doing something like that might even get SJWs on your side.
Protest that they are ignoring you and your people
Get a job there and use these things to change it back.
Whatever they do, make a bigger scene.
>>317507753
Goddamn injuns
>>317529486
>NeoGAF
>Influential
Hahahaha
>>317529286
You're a woman, aren't you?
>>317529449
What does that prove exactly?
Where do I e-mail Square Enix to tell 'em that I'm not buying their game if they don't change it back?
>>317529286
>Soldiers that follow orders are a disgrace to their uniform
Here's your reply.
Still buying this game but hoping the feedback they receive will stop this.
Who am I kidding? It's going to keep on happening regardless of how angry anyone gets or how many e-mails they receive on the matter. Just learn moon, faggots.
>6 threads about Bravely Second par day
>Nobody talks about the actual game in either of them
If I wasn't addicted to /v/ I would just fuck off from this fucking place whenever I could.
>>317529486
>Still more influencial than this shithole.
>yfw a shithole like 4chan is an order of magnitude more popular than Neogas
>>317529486
Then why are you here and not Neogaf? Bitch about how you're so above it all and anyone who cares is fucking dumb on your retarded fucking circlejerk of a site, faggot.
>>317515195
>skipping a whole game for something so petty
You faggots are fucking retarded, no wonder you have so much time for shitposting.
>>317529757
You can't. The only ones you can reach are customer support and other people that just send a "thanks for your concern and opinion" message then throw it in the trash without telling anyone about it.
>>317529757
First you take your shoe and shove it up your ass.
Then you take your shit covered shoe and walk to their building.
Then you threaten their secretary with the shit covered shoe saying that you won't let her go until they change the game back before release.
>>317529068
>Everyone else on the internet has already knelt down and asked for localization jizz on their face.
Bitching on a soapbox in the middle of an echo chamber is no better than bitching on a soapbox in your mother's basement.
Say what you will about youtube personalities, SJWs, and other outspoken forms of faggotry but at least they see some degree of exposure and their voice is heard.
>>317529072
>>317529187
>>317529292
Why not go to reddit yourselves so you can actually get some support and change things for the better?
You get to lead a revolution and change the industry.
Me and others like me will get to talk about vidya without having to hear about politics in the background.
Everyone wins.
>>317529837
Make a thread on /vg/ if you want actual video game discussionwith a generous topping of circlejerking.
>>317529703
You're saying we can't complain about a switch from a nice looking and original (for the genre) job to a worse-looking cowboy job because we're totally Sony or Microsoft fans.
Nintendo is responsible for publishing the game in western countries and as such is overseeing the localization.
>>317507753
Why the fuck they changed it? I though native americans didn't mind this shit? Wasn't there an uproar when Tiger Lili turned white in the recent Pan adaptation? Seems they can deal with stereotypes well enough. Who the fucks get offended over this?
>>317529923
>implying I was going to play it after buying it anyway
I hardly have time to finish anything. This actually helps my backlog a bit.
>>317529837
Are you an idiot? What is there to discuss? It's Bravely Default 2.0 and it's not out yet.
>>317529923
Tit-for-tat.
>>317507753
>Nintendo
Square Enix is the publisher. Fucking idiots.
>>317530110
It's been out since fucking forever in Japan you twat.
>>317530114
In Japan.
Nintendo is publishing the NA/PAL versions.
>>317529995
>Just go to Reddit so I can have my hugbox
Uh.
Reddit is the hugbox, buddy. Why don't YOU go there?
>>317530170
Woah, I guess you can go fucking discuss it on a Japanese imageboard, you faggot.
>>317529446
pic related
>>317529332
Not really
>>317529462
Why would you think you'd change something now that's been a thing for decades?
Pretty delusional thinking familia
>>317529768
People who can think for themselves are more valuable than bots who are trained to only follow orders.
So yeah, a disgrace and a whiner to boot.
>>317530170
It's also on a region locked console.
>>317530062
>I though native americans didn't mind this shit?
They don't.
White guilt faggot kekolds do.
>>317530058
What you're saying is all well and good but what does that have to do with blaming Nintendo when it's Square who's at fault as they're the ones publishing and localizing it this time round?
And what does your image do in your argument when you didn't even show a Sony or Microsoft console either and it's for Bravely Default rather than Bravely Second?
I don't think you know what you're doing here anon.
>>317529486
>Still more influencial than this shithole.
That doesn't say much, a shithole no one listens to isn't any better than a shithole no one listens to.
Developers are quickly learning to abandon neogaf, and banning staff members because they won't recoil in horror over tits like they do only reinforces that it's one of the worst sites on the internet.
How does it feel knowing the place you probably visit more than /v/ is quickly becoming less relevant than /v/?
did they change how in the first game how the girls had the same costumes for each job, same for the males. I liked how FF3 made each character have a slightly unique costume
>>317530271
I don't speak moonrune you shitheap
>>317529995
>Bitching on a soapbox in the middle of an echo chamber is no better than bitching on a soapbox in your mother's basement.
So why are you here, in this thread, bitching on a soapbox? Further keeping the soapbox alive?
Are you an idiot? Or are you too stupid to notice the hypocrisy?
>>317530347
A person can think for themselves and still follow orders.
Sorry that I don't feel like losing my job and benefits so I can push political views when I can keep it all and talk about it here.
>>317529824
>Fatal Frame has a costume removed
>Xenoblade X has the breast slider removed, and Lyn's "risque" outfit's covered up, less voice options (the quality of the actual dialogue translation has yet to be seen with the exception of divisions, BLADE, and Skell)
>FE Awakening covered Tharja's ass and changed a couple of scenes
>Bravely Default had Ringabel's outfit removed, and the other two changed to alternate designs
>FE:A has a shit ton of "questionable" themes
I'm so fucking tired. I don't think things will get significantly worse, but they sure as fuck aren't going to get better with the precedent being set. Oh well. I'm thankful there's a market for used video games. The worst part is better localization isn't had to do either.
>>317530406
>>317529867
>>317529853
>>317529578
>Delusional fucktards too stupid to realize the irony and futility of their actions
shaking muh head familia
>>317530347
Reminder that this gentleman, who will be posting in every thread, is posting flamebait.
>>317529995
>Say what you will about youtube personalities, SJWs, and other outspoken forms of faggotry but at least they see some degree of exposure and their voice is heard.
My voice is heard too, I email nintendo, square, and post on twitter all the time about this shit.
What have you done to fight the anti-censorship crowd? Oh right, you've shitposted in a thread and ensured that it will last even longer than it would have if you just ignored it. Great going, you stupid child.
>>317530387
>they're the ones publishing and localizing it this time around
Nope, it's the same deal as before, Nintendo publishes it in the west and a third-party's in charge of the translation.
>why haven't you shown a sony or microsoft console
because that wouldn't make sense in the context, I'm saying console war faggotry has nothing to do with it
>why have you shown bravely default rather than bravely second
to show my interest in the IP, considering the latter is not released in the west yet
>>317530347
>Not really
Yeah. Really.
You're demanding that the website change its policies and ban discussions you don't approve of. That is a textbook example of the behavior that I'm accusing you of.
>>317529620
Are you?
>>317530347
>familia
Get your religious propaganda off of my board.
>>317530572
>Y-yeah! My favorite board neofag is the best board on the site! No one thinks that it's an orwellian shithole ran by nazis as moderators who ban for opinions! I want /v/ to be just like my home board!
Get lost, fucko. No one cares about your delusional, misguided love for one of the worst discussion boards on the internet.
This is like bragging that you post on Kotaku.
>>317530572
fuck off neofaggot, nobody gives a flying fuck about you here or on your circlejerk site
>>317530572
>>317530347
>Familia
>Familia
Samefag just outs himself as a delusional shitposter whose only things to do on a Sunday night is praise Neogaf and preach about how censorship is good for everyone.
Consider suicide.
>>317530483
Woah, I guess your dumbass doesn't have much to discuss in the first place then.
>>317530268
>>317530494
>>317530653
Why are you still here?
If you want to get shit done, reddit's the best place to start.
Do you enjoy having your games censored?
>>317530365
Fucking hell.
>>317530926
Why are you still here? Shouldn't you be on your favorite site ever, Neogaf?
I mean, you just admitted that you go there. So just go back.
>Nintendo support
Hello again. It has come to my attention that the newest game in the Bravely franchise by Square Enix, Bravely Second, the sequel to Bravely Default, has possibly had some costume changes regarding the Tomahawk class. More specifically, the changing of the aboriginal costume outfit to that of a standard western cowboy outfit.
Nintendo of America are the publishers for this game in NA, right? If so, I'm just letting you know that I do not support ANY costume changes for censorship reasons, or "cultural appropriation" nonsense whatsoever, and if the Indian costume is NOT in the final release of the game, as it was in the Japanese version, I will not be purchasing Bravely Second.
I did the same with the first Bravely Default when the censorship for the female costumes was revealed years ago, and I do not support this in any manner at all.
Thank you.
(If you aren't the publisher and Square Enix is, this time, sorry.)
>>317531067
I've sent one like this already to square's Final Fantasy support (Just Final Fantasy, the first one), but I'll send another to Nintendo, can't hurt.
>>317530690
Not him but do you have any proof of Nintendo being the publisher and a third party localizing the game?
Because a simple google search says otherwise.
>>317531140
I actually find it kind of funny that I'm starting to begin them with "Hi, me again." I've done it so often recently.
I now won't be satisfied unless both costumes are in the NA release.
>>317530901
Except I do you backward monkey. At least more than everyone in these fucking threads that's been going for fucking dozens of hours anyways.
>>317531226
>>317531067
>starting with the "in the trash" flag
>>317531232
Nothing would make me happier if I was wrong and this is the hint of a customization system or a new job entirely.
a man can dream.
>>317530534
I guess you just don't give enough of a shit about it as much you thought.
Then again, all you fags >>317530574 >>317530691 >>317530765 >>317530890
are sackless losers who don't want things to change.
You'd rather complain about censorship than actually go out and change things for the better.
I'm under no delusions for why I come here, I simply like to argue.
Yet I'm the only one here whose actually achieving their goal :^).
>>317531268
Then start your thread already, for fucks sake.
>>317531340
I actually send two. One worded differently from a throwaway email.
>>317531167
Actually, now that I look, there's pretty much nothing so we're both in the wrong. Wikipedia says Nintendo NA/PAL without a source. The source saying it's internal is a dumb gameFAQ thread. To employ a popular meme around cool kids, it's like Schrodinger's localization.
>>317531067
I copy+pasted this and sent it.
It's close enough, right?
>>317531140
>I've sent one like this already to square's Final Fantasy support (Just Final Fantasy, the first one),
The Portal App?
>>317530890
>>317530860
>>317530778
All sites are for varying degrees of circlejerks anon.
It's just the fact that it's starting to recycle old material and it's not as fun anymore.
>>317531389
Oh, I don't care if they're censoring games I wasn't going to buy, though I still think it's a shit practice.
However I do think it's best to mock people like you who think nobody should discuss topics unless you approve of them.
>>317531424
>implying it won't instantly go back to the discussions in this thread after a few posts or get shitposted to death
>>317517116
Cowboys. The Redskins can't catch a fucking ball if someone handed them one.
>>317530690
>Nintendo publishes it in the west and a third-party's in charge of the translation.
Square has their own localization team you know anon. Considering they're the publisher this time around who do you think is going to take care of it?
>because that wouldn't make sense in the context, I'm saying console war faggotry has nothing to do with it
Not very good with the reading comprehension are you.
It's less of one being better than the other but more of "Nintendo is always at fault even when they aren't" which is the case here.
>to show my interest in the IP, considering the latter is not released in the west yet
And you had to show that, why?
>>317531051
When did I say I go to neoGAF?
Are you starting to see things that don't actually exist?Don't look down :^)
>>317531576
No, the Final Fantasy 1 support email.
>>317531597
Defending Neogaf is like living in Soviet Russia and claiming that all countries do basically the same thing.
It's a lie that you're telling yourself.
>>317531657
Then why not talk about the game somewhere else with likeminded people?
NeoGAF and Reddit, perhaps, friend?
>>317531705
You outed yourself, twice. Great going though. You almost had us fooled for a minute.Don't be stupid, oh wait, you already are :^)
>>317531657
>wahhhhhhhhh
That's all I fucking hear from your shitty little posts.
>I WANT TO DISCUSS THE GAME
>BUT I WON'T MAKE A THREAD
Just get out already.
>>317531713
>No, the Final Fantasy 1 support email.
Spoonfeed me I'm retarded
>>317516035
How do we know they didn't just add the cowboy costume alongside the regular Tomahawk one for the western release?
>>317531808
http://support.na.square-enix.com/main.php?la=1&id=488
This one.
>>317531630
It's just so stupid to complain about politics in a place where nobody is going to hear it.
Why not go on reddit where people would actually see your plight and maybe, just maybe, start a gradual shift?
I mean, how many people actually go on 4chan that could actually change the industry?Nobody that's who :P
>>317531727
Did you fucking miss the point of my original post or are you just trying to move the goalpost?
>>317531927
So what is your point now?
>>317531910
>How do we know Fatal Frame is censored and we're not getting ZSS and Zelda costumes alongside the others???
Because we fucking do.
>>317531910
Because they would show it off with a new ability. Not the ability from Tomahawk.
>>317531713
Did you just start posting today?
Did you miss the point in time when /v/ had literally a dozen MGSV threads up at once?
This place is just as bad at circlejerking as /r/games.
>>317531678
Your inane replies are getting on my nerve. Why don't you show me proof that Bravely Second is published by Square Enix in the west so we can stop this shit?
>>317510127
it will hurt your first time but after that it's pretty great :)
>>317531801
Where?
>>317532117
>This place is just as bad at circlejerking as /r/games.
:^)
Those five other MGSV threads really do stop you from making a thread of something you might be interested in. Unlike Reddit where those five threads would take precedence over new threads.
You won't, though, because you just want to bitch like the powerless idiot you are.
>>317519903
Because it's on a Nintendo platform, and Nintendo considers itself a children & family friendly publisher/game creator. Further, since the game is being released on a platform primarily targeted at children,and man-children,they're censoring it.
>>317531705
not him, but you are the model poster from neogaf if I've ever seen it. Whiny, arrogant, assuming other people must have the same opinions, and apologetic toward people controlling the conversation.
I mean, you could go back there if people realizing you're full of shit for defending these shitty practices gets on your nerves.
But you won't
See you next thread, you clueless idiot.
>>317532248
As I said earlier, I come here to argue.
You're the ones yelling at a wall and expecting a door to come out of nowhere.
>Unlike Reddit where those five threads would take precedence over new threads.
I guess you also missed the point in time when undertale threads got deleted when they had more than one thread while those five MGSV threads were allowed to stay up forever?
Again, just as bad as /r/game when it comes to circlejerking.
>>317532392
>Because it's on a Nintendo platform, and Nintendo considers itself a children & family friendly publisher/game creator.
And indians really are offensive to children and families!
So please explain why this is acceptable besides 'muh chilluns!'
>>317532473
>Implying I also don't come here to argue
>>317532418
>Whiny, arrogant, assuming other people must have the same opinions, and apologetic toward people controlling the conversation.
I could say the same thing about many anons ITT, it doesn't mean that they're necessarily from GAF or that being an asshole is a GAF only trait.
>>317532565
Wanna talk about it?
>>317532473
>As I said earlier, I come here to argue.
So do I. but I have my avenues to get things done. You're the faggot coming into the threads and keeping them alive with your same retarded circular arguments.
>You're the ones yelling at a wall and expecting a door to come out of nowhere.
He says as he keeps the thread alive just a little bit longer.
Great job, retard.
>I guess you also missed the point in time when undertale threads got deleted when they had more than one thread while those five MGSV threads were allowed to stay up forever?
Sorry that MGSV is more popular than your game undertale fag, who is shouting at walls again? Is it the person throwing a fit now because his little indie game doesn't get as many threads as MGSV?