So, how did a humble independent game BTFO most AAA titles this year? is it because of a double standard?
>people criticize furrytail
>tumblrfurries reply with memes as arguments
>half the images in any tumblrtail thread have tumblr filenames and/or furry shit
>none of the fans can actually describe why the game is any good
>mindlessly defend middle school fanfic x tumblrfurry pandering
And worst of all
>games as art is brought up
>tobyfox cocksuckers reply with le games are not le art memes because they only play meme games and haven't yet crawled out of their retard circlejerk bubble
Meme games: not even once.
>>316642802
I didn't understand a single word of what you said. It's time to lay off the drugs.
>>316642802
What the fuck did I just read
>>316644480
OP made this thread to post that, look at the IPs/posts.
>>316644571
I would never create a thread about a meme game. I care about post quality.
>>316644765
There were 4 posts and 3 IPs, you either replied to your own bait to bump the thread, or made the thread and then posted that to bait both sides, which is my guess.
>>316644850
Or the OP replied to my post. Idiot.
>>316644958
Nah, this people are doing this nonstop with the same pasta, you think you're clever or something?
Undetale? More like Overshill.
>>316642524
Let's see
>Gameplay that is a mix with traditional face-to-face RPG and Touhou, making it a fast-paced, yet addictive game
>Like earthbound, different music depending on what enemy you fight instead of one single track for everyone unless boss, it's also own pretty great tracks
>Characters that are actually enjoyable if you aren't autistic about it
>Code fuckery there and here
It's just the fanbase, the game is top notch.
I think it's probably the gay agenda this game force feeds you.
Literally everyone is gay in the game. Apparently millenials love that shit.
>>316642524
Starting a question with a presumption is a technique of rhetoric. Let me tell you, it doesn't work on anyone with half a brain.
The fact of the matter is, your first assumption was wrong, it didn't beat most AAA titles this year. Even AC Syndicate was more fun than this game.
>>316645803
It worked enough to get you to reply smart guy.
>>316645457
haha yea toriel and asgore really are both the same sex and had no children due to it
>>316642524
because it's fun
it has mixed senses of humor, there's varying ranges that multiple types of people can find funny, you wont find everything funny, like tumblr or homeshit tier jokes but if you play RPGs or just games in generals, it's still a good play and laugh. But that varing levels of "humor" can set off a lot of autists who, while they may find some enjoyment, see something they don't get and quite enjoy and just hate the whole game as a result.
>>316642524
>So, how did a humble independent game BTFO most AAA titles this year? is it because of a double standard?
it didn't
>awful artstyle
>awful character design
>no real gameplay, only minigames
>no strategy nor skill needed to beat the game, you only need to memorize patterns
>extremely short. It only feels long because the walking speed is way too slow
>annoying characters who only exist to ruin the game's atmosphere (sans, papyrus, undyne and the autistic dinosaur)
the music was alright, although generic
>>316645940
Stop responding to shitposters
>>316646464
but, i am a shitposter
>>316646326
lol
>>316642802
first of all, its not any furryshit. anyone thinks like that are already into that shit who tries to justify their inner senses.
I personally don't see any "genderwagoning" in the game, thus it feels a little bit pushed over the feminine side, but you will see it's really well balanced between both genders.
secondly, i always hated jrpg and especially neo-8bit games. This one combines both and i fucking loved it.
Finally I don't know how much effort that faget has put in the game, but undertale has a godlike level of immersion and real-life interactions. Though this was actually what kept me playing for days.
the most and probably the only cringe thing about that game is those little anime references. and you can even avoid them without damaging any progress. And yes, I hate anime too.
What makes the heat about internet hype and overration of the game is all because of tumblr faggots who love the "cute" hearts and drawings because they cannot see beyond fake subcultural happiness.
And there are those reddit faggots who forcibly draw characters of the game in sexy poses of ponies and share it everywhere they can reach. sigh.
And there's you.
>>316648056
STOP RESPONDING TO SHITPOSTERS
>>316642524
>So, how did a humble independent game BTFO most AAA titles this year?
A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt).
Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda. The traditional example is the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, they will admit to having a wife and having beaten her at some time in the past.
I kind of liked the game, but god damn am I sick of seeing it posted. I believed it was false flagging but now I'm convinced that the fanbase actually is MLP-tier.
>>316648326
93 at metacritic, I think it's fair to say.
>>316642802
>pic
>that terrible fucking English
How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?
>>316648056
>responding to shitposters
Stay retarded /v/, this is why you are considered the worst board
>>316642524
Why does the shitposting cancer part of /v/ exclusively determine whether a game is good or not by its fanbase and how popular it is? You guys are spouting terms like "meme" all over Undertale threads without actually using them correctly.
>>316648326
Except it doesn't. It simply states that Undertale is extremely popular, and more popular than many AAA titles. Hipster 4chan, you must know at this point, does not esteem anything because it's popular. But the author of the post admits that popular consensus could be wrong when he says
>is it because of a double standard?
If you're saying that you don't think that "[Undertale] BTFO most AAA titles this year" isn't essentially accurate then I urge you to reconsider your opinion. It's difficult to evaluate those terms' truth value objectively, but I think that we know without a doubt that Undertale is extremely popular.
>>316642524
>So, how did a humble independent game BTFO most AAA titles this year?
he didn't and you're completely delusional and or living in your own little world where you think that only what happens to you mattersPRO TIP:IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL AND YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL
>is it because of a double standard?
Hello fellow tumblrite xP
fuck you and anyone who fucking starts these retarded fucking threads with a circular reasoning fallacy as the literal headline.
>>316649646
>and more popular than many AAA titles.
HOLY SHIT THEY REALLY BELIEVE THIS
I loved Undertale. Still, the only reason why it's a contender for GOTY 2015 is because 2015 was a terrible year for gaems.
>but it refused
I just finished my first run today. I killed a couple of bugs in the ruins but otherwise had a clean playthrough, but I still got theFlowyending. Not gonna lie, that was creepy. I kinda figured how it would end, but the presentation and the loops it through you through were just... man. I don't know why everybody says this game is so cute, everything with that fucking character in it is downright horrifying.
Started a new playthrough to get the other ending today, so far going really well.I will never forgive myself for killing Toriel the first time. I thought she'd let me through before defeating her all the way, but then your last hit gets that super crit on her that takes off a quarter of her health and insta killers her. Then that fucking Flowey has to come and rub my save-scumming into my face. Fuck that bitch ass nigger.
>>316649224
I think Hylics was made with a random text generator
>>316650093
Get out before someone spoils you, the game is best played blind.
Just make sure to not be a coward and do genocide when you're done. Don't believe Floweys lies.
>>316650093
I think everyone gets the Flowey ending first. That or I just didn't get the phone call for the Alphys date until after I finished and reloaded
>>316650092
>tfw it refused
went out and bought a pie becus dundertale
its all a pie scheme really
>>316650383
>>316650093
Everyone gets the neutral ending first. I think you can go full genocide on your first run, but Undyne won't call you to take the letter to Alphys till after a neutral run.
Hard mode when
>>316651004
>bought a pie
>bought
So lazy.
>is it because of a double standard?
Do the other games have a fuckable robot?
No?
The answer is clear.
>>316654636
Any game where I can pose dramatically is okay in my book
>>316654785
Gotta raise those ratings
>>316648352
Yeah same, its a good game but my god it has the most obnoxious fucking fanbase since homosuck, which I'm fucking sure is the same fanbase anyway since it has the same pseudo-deep vibe to it
>>316642524
undertale posters:they do it for free
>>316642524
Because it was legit good.
i thought this game was good
i want to fuck that robot
>>316648056
>thus it feels a little bit pushed over the feminine side, but you will see it's really well balanced between both genders
I want tumblr to leave desu
>first of all, its not any furryshit. anyone thinks like that are already into that shit who tries to justify their inner senses.
you're either ignorant or just pretending to be ignorant. the game constantly panders to tumblrinas and furfags, that's why so many of them love it and defend it to the death.
>>316654636
>fuckable
>tranny
back to tumblr with you!
>>316657116
How is he a tranny
He's just a fab dude
>>316657263
>female ghost in male robot
hmmmmmm...
I enjoyed the bullet hell gameplay, loved the music, liked most of the characters (Aliphys was too on the nose) and thought the story was nice and well realized. GOTY 2015? fuck nah, Bloodborne and Mario Maker were more fun for me, baby. Doesn't mean I don't really like Undertale, because I really do. To call it the best thing ever would be exaggerating, but it definitely isn't shit.
Worst game I've played in my entire life
Glad I didn't spend $10 on it desu
>>316657320
Robutts don't have sex organs.
>>316657320
>>female ghost
When is it ever hinted the ghost was female?
>>316657341
>I enjoyed the bullet hell gameplay
bullet hell fan here, why?
>>316657458
>>316657501
either way it reeks of tumblr.
>>316645357
>papyrus and sans co-op game
I HAVE A GREAT DESIRE
>>316657609
>>some tumblrite headcanon confused me and I thought it was true, better accuse the game itself of being tumblr to save face
>>316657609
>Everyone is trans and autistic and X sexuality
Tumblr needs to be cleansed.
>>316657712
but anon, the game does pander to tumblr.
the creator even allowed this despicable furshit in the game. you're really defending this garbage?
>>316657520
I thought it was unique, mixing it with an RPG. Adding silly characters and graphics as things to dodge made facing each monster rewarding to me.
Trying to no-damage the final bosses is also an insane challenge and I'm a crazy boy.
>>316657782
>butter dragon
holy fucking kek
The thing is, if a AAA studio put out this exact game it wouldn't be as well loved because it would be seen as pandering or whatever new buzzword people are on at the moment.
>>316657841
fair enough, I just find his use of physics objects as bullets unforgivable.
>>316657782
how much DID that lardass pay to get this lardass in the game anyway?
BEST SONG COMING THROUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wptBuM6zs
>>316657609
>mettaton is trans autistic and gay
Speaking as an actual autistic person I find this sort of behavior from SJWs to be extremely patronizing.
Besides, autism is an extremely nuanced psychological condition that would be difficult to represent adequately in a video game.
>>316657970
it's still considered pandering. bacause it is.
why else would the game be filled with flaming homosexuals and furries?
>>316658006
one thousand dollars. muffet was the same story, but she's not nearly as bad and evenkind of cute
>>316658006
$1000, I think.
And to Toby's credit, he did hide the character well enough so that most people won't ever see him.
boring, predictable, play-once game with le epic 8bit retro totally not overused style
It didn't BTFO of anything. It's just a few of you fags, redditors, and Tumblrinas that like this shit. I'd literally rather play the most weaboo game out right now than this shit.
>>316658065
>Besides, autism is an extremely nuanced psychological condition that would be difficult to represent adequately in a video game.
Undertale is a cohesive game made by a single person with a clear purpose in mind, and a good way to convey it.
On the other hand, AAA games are a multi million dollar hundred people mess whose sole purpose is being "safe enough to get as many sales as possible for normies".
This is like asking why a single good chef can outdo mcdonalds or canned food in quality.
>>316658062
I prefer this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1-RyLUQUrAat 200%
>yfw this happened
IF you think Undertale is a bad game, then please, what was your GOTY this year? I'll be more than happy to accept any game, as long as it's better than Undertale. HOWEVER, being "better" means that it can't share a single flaw. That means:
>it can't have popularized any memes or enticed the fanbase to make memes (MGS, Splatoon, Halo)
>it has to have good graphics (no mature games for mature gaymers, like halo or Xenoblade or anything with 3d polygons, because I'm sick of games trying to be open world)
>no casual games (anything on the WiiU or Ps4)
>it must be optimized for the PC, that means it uses a keyboard and mouse
>no hardware restrictions
>no story games either (that means no Xenoblade or MGS)
Games like Rocket League are okay by me, since they're relatively simple, fun concepts. But mature dudebro murder simulators like Bloodborne and The Witcher are not welcome.
>>316658209
he still let it in the game? would you?
would you not save your dignity and tell the furry not to shit up your game?
even if he refuses to change it he still lost the money, toby made the final decision and no amount of hiding will change that.
>>316658281
Thats why one single mechanic can build a better car than full production line OH WAIT that's fucking stupid
>>316657609
>sans is autistic and depressed
>>316658381
>no casual games (anything on the WiiU or Ps4)
wut
>>316658381
If you jump down your toilet into the sewer, you'll be surrounded with shit. You can pick out the nicest looking shit but it's still shit.
>>316658381
My personal GOTY is Bayonetta 2
I very much enjoyed Undertale though
>>316658090
Well, even then, /v/'s natural hate for the big companies would spark even more shitposting than there is now.
>>316658467
>I use an analogy as a metaphor after explaining what I'm trying to say
>You bring a completely unrelated analogy that doesn't make sense
Nice going retard.
>>316658381
i've seen this in every thread i've shit up and have said MGSV.
you're only posting this to try and illicit a response from me, you triggered tumblrina.
LOL! PLAYED LIKE A FIDDLE!
CAN I FUCKING EXIST NOW AGAIN?
>>316658418
>would you not save your dignity and tell the furry not to shit up your game?
not him but fuck dignity. Selling out is really overrated. I mean damn I LOVE money
>>316658381
No one cares about your opinion lard ass. GOTY will be a "casual normie" game. Stay mad.
>>316658520
It's a meme when people say Bloodborne or Bayonetta are hard, when in reality they're pretty damn easy to anyone who ever grew up on a PC.
>>316658554
>Bayonetta
>2015
>>316657782
>hid away in a location 99.9% of players will never find
based toby
>>316642524
It's because >>>/tumblr/
>>316658090
Because the world isn't nearly as small or categorized as you soooooo very obviously believe.
;^)
>>316658381
I didn't play Undertale so can't comment on whether it's better, but I really liked Life is Strange, Ori and the Blind Forest, and the Talos Principle DLC.
How can I make my indie game become as popular as Undertale?
>>316658603
millennials need to kill themselves.
>>316658565
and the game would still be a mess of tumblr and furbait.
>>316658601
uboa?
>>316642524
It's because the creator actually cared about his game and put a lot of effort and attention to detail in it. Something most AAA publishers are incapable of doing (Fallout 4, Bam Ham Knight and Assassin's Creed 64567 being prime examples of stale garbage pushed out the door for cash with zero care put into them).
Not to say NO AAA game had love and effort put into it this year. It's obvious Xenoblade X, Witcher 3 and Splatoon all had the developers invested in the game.
>>316658176
I do have to give the game credit, it barely felt like Muffet was a kickstarter character and fit in very well with everything.
Butter dragon on the other hand? Not so much...
>>316658418
>he still let it in the game? would you?
He paid to have his character in the game, so yes.
Then again, I'm a poorfag, so I would take any money I could get.
>>316658703
>Life is Strange
Visual novel with no gameplay? I wouldn't say that's a valid contender.
>Ori
Good platformer. I'd gladly accept this.
>Talos Principle
Never played it myself.
>>316658686
>MKUltra: the game
I've never seen a game so capable of completely changing people who play it. People abandoning prior videogame favorites and even tastes in games and entertainment as a whole to fellate a game about atari graphics and dating skeletons and furries.
To the extent even that people doing combat in what's ostensibly a turn based RPG are considered to be doing a "genocide run" and are actually considered to be bad people for killing pixels in a videogame.
It's baffling, it's insane.
Not to mention the obvious socjus narrative of the very feminine main character having "they" pronouns and being considered "gender neutral" while going on gay and straight dates with furries and skeletons who all happen to also be bisexual because muh progressivism.
I wonder what Freudian analysis could be made about all the love for the "goat mom", especially among those who draw the fanart of porn and/or making her a BBW…
>>316658704
it's easy, make a good game
>>316658703
>Talos Principle DLC.
Is that any better than the main game?
>>316658707
>how dare you pick money over dignity
tip cake, m8. Call me again when dignity is paying my bills
>>316658821
I don't think you get how kikestarter works.
he paid to get it in the game, but by no means are you obligated to put some asshole's fetish in your video game. he still loses the money, weather or not he changes his shit up.
>>316658885
But there are similar games like LISA which didn't become this popular. There must be a secret formula
>>316658901
It's pretty damn good, give it a try if you liked the main game. The puzzles are very inventive
>>316658708
Gaster.
Guy got scattered throughout time and space so hard in-game that he and everyone who knows him have to be modded back into the game by messing with the code just to see them. If Undertake does one thing well, it's clever use of the fourth wall.
>>316658381
> tired of the open world games
> doesn't realize rpgs have been open world since d&d
>says no casual games
> picks a rpg without a world map calming not to be casual
Don't start preaching to me about game play. Nier did bullet hell rpg long before and better
>>316642524
Frankly, this game isn't all that good and I've been very patient with these threads. All you people shilling this wannabe JRPG are annoying as fuck.
The game is worse than just about every major JRPG release I can think of that I have played. Even Final Fantasy XIII was more enjoyable than this shit.
You people like this game because it is an Indie game, its furbait, and the idea that because you can go through without killing anything that is somehow amazing and not a total snorefest. The game tries to be deep and fails miserably. The game's best aspect(the shmup elements) could be better utilized in a sequel of some kind is about the best compliment I can give it.
That being said, the fans of this game are easily the worst thing about it. You fucks are annoying autistic fuckwads and your game is shit, but if it came down to Fallout 4 or Undertale. I really hope Undertale would win. Unfortunately I don't see Undertale winning jackshit besides maybe something indie related.
>>316658918
>Call me again when dignity is paying my bills
try honest work, millennial scum.
>>316659025
LISA isn't very good.
>>316642524
>So, how did a humble independent game BTFO most AAA titles this year?
Delusion
>>316659069
>if you liked the main game.
I thought it was alright but not spectacular.
Ended up getting bored of the puzzles near the end. I'd hardly call it a bad experience at least.
>>316659086
> picks a rpg without a world map calming not to be casual
My post isn't praising Undertale. I'm actually operating under the assumption that I hate the game, and am asking for recommendations that steer me as far away as I can from it.
>>316659107
>The game tries to be deep and fails miserably.
mind giving an example of this?
>>316659260
>I'm actually operating under the assumption that I hate the game
That doesn't seem to make much sense.
Why would you chose to assume you hate the game?
>>316657014
kek that image really does say it all, doesn't it?
>>316659110
>millenials invented selling out
you people...
>>316659342
>YOU WERE THE TRUE MONSTER
Just shut up, anon. I don't know why you're bothering to even try to resist the fact that the game tries to be deep and it just doesn't work.
>>316659110
>honest work
yeah honest work gets you a room in an apartment with 3 other people
do you even have an actual reason to turn down $1k besides muh integrity?
>>316659368
I'm trying to be fair and making a point.
Assume that I hate everything associated with Undertale, and want a game that isn't anything like it whatsoever. That means I don't want games with furries in them, or casual gameplay, or anything like that.
>>316659136
it isn't?
>>316659260
what the fuck are you even saying nigger?
like what
just don't play the game if you think you'll hate it god damn. on the other hand, play it if its the opposite
>>316659512
>YOU WERE THE TRUE MONSTER
Okay we've identified a theme, now onto the next step. How does it try to be deep
>>316659512
What are you talking about?
Do you think the game was trying to surprise you by calling you a bad person after killing everyone? Because they made that pretty obvious as you where killing them.
Cause it's fun and has a lot of heart and soul put into it. Basically the antithesis of AAA games.
>>316642524
No, it's because of furries.
>>316659532
I suppose some modern FPS would fit that bill.
>>316659848
>modern FPS
>no casual gameplay
You're a funny guy anon.
>>316659630
That is the thing. That's all it does. It establishes a theme. If so many Undertale fans I've discussed this with weren't so insistent that I just didn't "understand" the game, I wouldn't be accusing the game of trying to be deep, but apparently the legion thinks its the deepest most meaningful shit ever to grace the planet.
>>316659678
No, I don't. That's exactly the problem. It's right in your face. The game tries to be deep initially but then does nothing.
>>316659678
>>316659025
A lot of people really like Undertale and find it touching and when they finish playing it they want to tell others and have them experience the same. LISA as good or bad as it may have been can actually be pretty horrific at times, it doesn't fill you with a desire to share it.
>>316659723
Don't forget that it's cheap to buy and made on a low staff and low budget and doesn't try to make up for a lack of innovation and depth with "OMG SO REAL" graphics, and didn't spend a third or more of its budget on marketing alone.
Undertale really is the complete polar opposite of your average AAA release.
>>316659962
I said "some" yes?
Honestly, I don't know why you're so intent on finding a polar opposite to undertale in the first place.
>>316658381
Here's an image for your shit taste. Undertale was great, but so were many of the games and platforms you're generalizing, you gigantic fagwagon.
>>316659983
>The game tries to be deep initially but then does nothing.
Where do you get the impression the game is trying to tell anything beyond its own story through your own actions?
That's certainly not the impression I got.
>>316657609
it really is amazing how tumlrites manage to make characters that should be linear/simplistic into categorical shit that a normal person wouldn't care or need to know about.
Their fucking warped reality makes them force shit like this and other aspects of their agenda (to make everything relatable to them based on sexuality rather than character) to ends where they should stay the fuck out of.
>>316654636
Where's the patch that makes him dateable, Toby? You fucking promised a robotic husband, Toby.
>>316642802
Stop misusing the term meme game faggot
Goat simulator, rock simulator, Five Nights at Freddy's
These are meme games.
>>316658357
>clipping
>>316658601
Not until Toby stops being a lazy nigger.
>>316642802
I just beat Hylics today. The best 4 hours I spent on a RPG Maker game.The different Things animation kills me, especially the frozen burrito.
>>316659983
You really are just shooting yourself in the foot with this post.
>That's all it does. It establishes a theme.
Okay great, what's wrong with that
>The game tries to be deep initially
But you literally just said that all it does is establish a theme, which is it? That bit of contradiction aside,
>the game tries to be deep initially
How
>>316659434
no, but they sure are the best at it. boomers were sellouts too.
the sooner you see that boomers and millennials have the exact same logic, but different work ethics you'll understand a lot.
>>316659527
>I don't understand how shit works: the post.
you also fail to see that if someone gives money to a funded kikestarter project they lose the money even if the project delivers nothing.
>>316660267
It hardly matters. People will just use it as a blanket "I hate it for a nebulous reason disguised as comradery" term.
>>316660267
>undertale
>not the new FNAF
are you serious nigger?
>>316660398
>>316660229
Nothings really wrong with it. I'm just pissed off at the autistic fans is all. They're louder than guys like you. They swear I'm not fucking getting it and it makes me want to punch them in the furdick.
>>316657609
>Mettaton is male
>He hits on player, who is implied to be a girl
>Ghey
>>316660128
They're only good if you lower your standards down to where you can find dinosaur bones. And as a paying customer, why should I?
this memegame needs to go
>>316660530
Does it look like something you can cover in 15 minutes while making "Hil-ar-ious" screaming noises?
>>316660605
>Implied
When? I always thought it was supposed to be ambiguous so it's easier for the player to project themselves onto them?
>>316660595
>I'm just pissed off at the autistic fans is all.
Oh. Well that's just an entirely different issue.
You're just mad at over-analytical dorks claiming certainty. Not worth your time or anger.
I always try to separate my experience form fandoms.
>>316660605
the player is genderless too so all the progressive faggots can jerk off over a self-insert protagonist.
>>316660605
>implied
Women just aren't equipped with that kind of libido.
>>316657782
Toby knew this was horryfingly cringeworthy so it is hidden and you can kill it and it doesnt matter if you are doing a pacifist run cause it only gives 1exp.
>>316660605
>on player, who is implied to be a girl
Besides, Mettaton never hits on Frisk, he just says fabulous shit like "darling" and "gorgeous" because it's showbusiness, and the whole "one true love" shit was literally a play.
>>316660530
Yeah, Toby is gonna fart out 4 sequels in a year.
>>316660595
The quality of a game should never be decided by its fanbase.
>>316660605
>who is implied to be a girl
It's never stated one way or the other.
If you thought Frisk was grill, that's your own impression.
>>316660647
Do you even have fun with anything anymore? MGSV and Splatoon are genuinely fun and well made games. I honestly don't think either of those or Undertale are GOTY, but I play games because they're fun, not because some faggy magazine with shit taste picks them due to popularity.
>>316660745
People keep saying Toby made Frisk gender ambiguous, but more male characters hit on you than female and your first items are girl shit.
>>316660838
he won't but undertale is still the latest flavor of the month furry endorsed meme game.
>>316658704
1. make the artstyle similar to earthbound, center the game around a big cast of quirky characters that's easy to make OC/fanart off, make a setting that gives them anime powers (determination), make sure the game isn't unplayable.
2. profit.
>>316660907
>MGSV and Splatoon are genuinely fun and well made games
Who says? Some random guy on the internet?
>I play games because they're fun, not because some faggy magazine with shit taste picks them due to popularity.
Yet the people who proclaim these games as the best thing ever have the exact same credibility as these "Faggy magazines".
>>316658704
just pander to tumblr and they'll do all the work for you
>>316660971
That honestly doesn't sound nearly as bad as you seem to be trying to make it sound.
>>316660971
All of that requires talent.
Character building isn't as easy as people make it seem. Good aesthetics simplicity is also difficult to achieve.
>>316660971
Thanks. I think I already have the quirky characters part figured out
>>316660907
It's fine to have fun with a game.
It's far better to explain why it's fun.
Every game was BTFO by Splatoon. Stay fresh bitches :)
>>316661027
>Who says? Some random guy on the internet?
Well no shit. I played them and I enjoyed them. If you didn't want a recommendation, you shouldn't have asked for one in your initial post. But your point is right. I don't really have any credibility, nor do any of the major publications. They can tell you what's objectively wrong with a game and what they think is right about one, but you have to come to a conclusion yourself. So stop arguing on a message board and buy or pirate them and decide for yourself faggot.
>>316660835
>implying Mettaton won't be all over Frisk's ambiguous genitals since they're ambassador to the human race and he wants to make it big in the human world
Hope he's got an autoblow built-in.
>>316660949
It's literally the same audience as LISA the painful.
You still don't know what a meme game is, stop misusing the term.
>>316661193
Not that guy, but I enjoyed the characters and found themhumerous
>>316645357
Sans and Papyrus better show up in another game down the line
Easily the best characters in the game
>>316661307
You little slut.
>>316658637
Traditional PC "gamers"
>good at action games
Pick none
>>316661285
Not really. Not that guy, but I played both, and Lisa is really grim and not all happy-nice funny, and doesn't have the same upbeat feeling as Undertale does. That would explain why it sold less in about a year than Undertale did in a month.
>>316650375
>that cutThat's kinda hot.
>>316661097
>good aesthetics simplicity is also difficult to achieve
except it's not
>>316658704
Put a lot of love and effort into it. Pay attention to details (checkable objects, item flavor texts, how different players could react differently to the situations you put them in, etc.)
Write engaging characters that the player can get invested in. Have funny and memorable dialogues.
Make sure your game "flows" well, so the player is not stuck doing the same thing to the point it becomes monotonous or repetitive, vary dialogues and gameplay, plot dumps and exploration, etc.
Make sure to ramp up the difficulty properly. The more the player plays the game, the better they'll get accustomed to the controls and mechanics, when they do, you can introduce new mechanics to change things up, expand certain mechanics, or create more challenging scenarios using the skills they've assimilated.
>>316658291
I want to fuck a temmie
>>316661097
Do you have any tips on character bulding? Even the simplest ones
>>316661270
>Well no shit. I played them and I enjoyed them.
So because you had "fun" it's an objectively good game then?
Because gee, you know what kinda games that normal people find "fun" and "enjoyable? They're the games that win massive awards for being "progressive" and whatnot.
So I guess popular opinion isn't that trustworthy.
>>316661097
Character building is simple when you base them off of a single trait or quirk or emotional base like many of the characters in Undertale. Not that something like that is bad, but building multi-dimensional characters is where writing a character becomes tough. I imagine Sans took the most time to get right out of every character in the cast.
The community is fucking garbage.
Solid game, though. Interesting mechanics, bitchin' music, great story.
>>316661548
It's basically a vibrating onahole.
>>316661285
LISA wasn't full of characters that spouted shit tier referential humor or talk in shitposts like pic related
LISA did gay characters tastefully instead of shoving them down your throat like undertale
LISA actually felt like a proper homage to earthbound, where as undertale felt like I was hanging out with weird kids that smoke pot in public and write sanic fanfiction.
get the fuck out.
>>316661478
They're very similar in humor and in being earthbound-like.
But yes, Undertale has it's dark moments but nothing is more fucked up then having a drug dealer make you decide between cutting the nipple off a little girl, cutting off your own arm or killing your team members.
>>316661543
Thank you, that was very helpful. I'm a sucker for little details like that
LISA and Undertale fans fight? The fuck, boys?
>>316661892
I dunno, both are stellar games, man.
>>316661876
whatever you do, make sure it's progressive or tumblr will lynch your ass.
>>316650092
>>316650904
>>316653360
>tfw the heroine appears
>>316661580
pick a trait or a group of traits and build the character around it.
Costume Quest seemed more Earthbound-ish to me than either of these games, to be honest
>>316661803
I see no referential humor in the picture you posted. Sounds like you're "meme crazy."
While I do want to play LISA, it looks like a fucking EDGE fest, which is a huge deterrent. The only reason I'm taking any interest in it is because of /v/, similarly with Undertale back in the day of the demo when people here appreciated it and had nice discussions.
>>316661580
Base them off of an emotion or an emotional quirk or tick and work from there. But don't make that the entire character. Building a living character requires them to have complex thoughts and feelings, and to go against or with their flaws and quirks. Also, unless it's like a one-off character or you're writing something really wacky, try not to just have a crazy little quirk be the sole drive behind a character. Something like a nervous tick or a habit to be autistically worried about cars can be built off of and potentially made compelling. Something like "oh my character has le green hair" or "my character is half rhinocerous" is harder to work in and takes more work to not seem like you're just tossing in special snowflakes, unless it fits the theme or setting of your story. That said, good writing can be taking really fucking zany quirks and making them seem grounded to earth.
>>316662117
>grill and black dude all warrior like
>wite boys a pony fag and a robut fag with no weapon
>>316662125
Lisa is as edgy as UT is funny. Take that as you will, I thoroughly enjoyed both. Lisa made me feel like shit, UT made me feel happy. Both are good.
>>316662125
how bout this one?
the game isn't full of maymays but it does draw heavy inspiration from internet use.
>napstablook(lol napster!)
>is anime real?
>burgerpants(lol ass burgers! get it!!!)
>>316662125
Naw, Lisa is solid. It's a story about a man trying to fix things he's broken. The only 'edge' is the fact he's dealing with a crippling drug addiction while he's at it to which there's no cure for.
>>316662220
No one cares.
Don't be just as bad as the tumblrites.
>>316662351
>lol ass burgers!
That's a stretch.
>>316662351
What's the meme there? It's an emotionally unstable plane.
>>316661892
We fight because we care. We're like siblings.
>>316661626
>So because you had "fun" it's an objectively good game then?
>Because gee, you know what kinda games that normal people find "fun" and "enjoyable? They're the games that win massive awards for being "progressive" and whatnot.
>So I guess popular opinion isn't that trustworthy.
Did you ignore the rest of my fucking post? I basically told you that. Popular opinion isn't worth shit. I basically only go on /v/ for videogame related stuff, and half of the people told me Undertale was shit. I initially went with that, but then I tried it for myself and I had a fun time, and it wasn't nearly as bad as they made it seem. So like I suggested in the last post you only read the first two sentences of, play games yourself and form your own opinion.
>>316662351
I literally didn't get 'assburgers' from burgerpants. I saw that as more of a joke about spaghetti and pockets, with burgers in pockets instead.
>>316661714
Funny how when we try to imagine other people, our perfect idea of people is defined by a single trait, rather than the complex bag that people actually are.
Truly is the source of moral absolutism cancer.
>>316661580
Base them off people you know, people with actual character, but don't make it obvious. It's a good starting point to get an idea of how complex people can be.
>>316661497
A lot of thought was put into the original sonic the hedge hog design even though it's simple.
It's hard to achieve an aesthetic simplicity.
Developer's passion > producer's $$$
>>316662443
I do play games myself. Why do you think I hold an opinion that /v/ hates me for?
Infact, did you know that Undertale isnt even my GOTY? I hold another game in that spot.
>>316662351
Sure, that's fine, but I still feel like you're grasping at straws for something arbitrary to complain about. To each their own, I guess.
>>316662437
what is tsundere?
you're on an anime website you should know this one.
>>316662448
which is still an internet reference. my point still stands.
>>316662529
Well said, anon. Well said.
>>316662448
this, burgerpants was literally just a young guy working at a fast food burger place to me, it never crossed my mind that he was referencing anything but that
>>316662536
not really, I just want you guys to admit the game is full of tumblr pandering, furbait, and internet humor.
pic related also counts. straight up memebait.
>>316662125
LISA has a FotNS moment right at the end of the base game that has more feels than the end of Undertale's pacifist run, but in a more depressing way. Also, the entire game is basically a super fucked up FotNS.
>>316662585
>you're on an anime website you should know this one.
Uh, no? Because I don't watch anime obsessively.
>>316662664
Then you're a fucking moron.
>>316662125
Lisa has a segmented kind of spread to it's theme.
Most of the time it's just you going from camp to camp meeting dumbasses fucking around in the desert.
But then Buzzo shows up and shit gets dark.
>>316662784
google then go back to tumblr.
>>316662535
What's your GOTY? Mine's TW3.
>>316662818
i guess you know all the hot maymays in town
what a thread
>>316662351
Don't you be making fun of Burgerpants now. Or else you and me are gonna have a little problem.
>>316662351
>Using japanese terms that people who play videogames have become familiar with makes it a meme.
>>316662869
just so happens I do.
>>316661580
show don't tell, give them flaws and try to give each character has a unique 'voice'. don't write them all in your manner of speaking.
>>316662868
Imagine an indie game without a pretentious story, or stupid anime kids like in Xenoblade, or stupid looking anime mechs, or without any DLC or early access, and it's not even 10 dollars.
That is my GOTY.
>>316642524
because toby fox put passion anddeterminationinto his game, meanwhile metal gear solid 12 and fallout 7 are just washed out money grabs by CEOs who want to buy another summer house.
money makes people sort of forget their souls
>>316662932
no but it's referential humor.
did you even read my post? I admit the game isn't full of memes, but does draw heavy inspiration from toby's extensive use of tumblr.
>>316662672
It really isn't.
It's not full of tumblr pandering.
It's not full of furbait.
It does have some internet humor.
Why are you do desperate to try and shit on a game so hard?
If you don't like it, why do you come into these threads? Just to shitpost? To be like, 'here are all of my arbitrary points, now admit that I am right and you are wrong!!'
It's a videogame, man. It's open to the player of the game to decide if they like it or not, the fact you're trying to say 'no, you did not enjoy the game, and if you DID enjoy the game you are a bad person' is just...
It's pathetic, man.
>>316661714
If it was that simple, tons of games would have big casts of characters people fall in love with like they did undertale. It's very hard to write a character that is liked and remembered.
I think the papyrus introduction scene is great in that you can 'get' the character within seconds, but there's also motives, insecurities, and interactions with other characters (sans puns) that make you understand their personality and preferences even more.
It's just a silly scene, but it's efficient, isn't an expository bore, and is amusing. It even has his theme song for it.
>>316661543
Everything his guy said. Especially concerning pacing and introducing new variety. Undertake had consistent introduction of new mechanics (especially with bosses) and events (dating, spears, etc) to keep things fresh while still being cohesive. Each area also has its own theme, purpose, and associated big NPCs and events.
>>316662115
>>316662143
>>316662474
>>316662968
Thank you guys.
>>316663090
I'll accept a free steam key to your game when it's developed as my just thanks.
>>316663025
This
I dont understand why everybody hates Toby Fox when he just fucked off and made the game he wanted to make
>>316663201
Sure buddy, wish me luck
>>316663048
>It's not full of tumblr pandering.
explain all the gay characters, the genderless protagonist, and fucking mettaton then.
>It's not full of furbait.
toby's an admitted furfag who put a lot of anthropomorphic animals in his game, sure looks like furbait to me.
>'no, you did not enjoy the game, and if you DID enjoy the game you are a bad person'
I'm not saying that. what I am saying is
If you like undertale you admit you:
>Browse Tumblr
>Meme every chance you get
>Are a furfag
>Are an ex-Homestuck fan
>>316661824
The point is that a happier game is obviously going to become more popular than an incredibly disturbing game.
All these mother influenced games like OFF, yume Nikki, and LISA have all gone the dark horror route, so undertale going the opposite way seems to have worked in its favour.
>>316663000
That looks pretty damn cool honestly. Reminds me of Gunstar Heroes and Contra, and the music has a kind of Vectorman feel to it. I'll check it out.
>>316663000
So the only game you like is bad rats? Got it.
>>316663305
Mettaton is a reference to glam rock, aka David Bowie, Freddie mercury
The mc is not genderless, its just unspecified because self insert.
There's only 2 gay couples and they're not evident if you don't want to see them
>>316663305
it's a game about one human in a world of monsters, whoopie there are anthropomorphic animals.
the genderless protag is for self insertion of your name to drive the 'Chara = your desire to complete games' point forward.
the gay characters don't introduce themselves like a tumblr blog ("please refer to me as this pronoun, also I am omnisexual"), and therefore I find them fine
>>316663482
>unavoidable is now non-evident.
top kek.
won't even go into mettaton becasue it's been discussed to death, blatant tranny allegory no matter what narrative you tumblrinas wanna push.
the only reason they made the mc a genderless simpsonskin was to be progressive. prove me wrong.
It's better than most games this year because video games are mostly fucking shit. It's still not better than the best games released, though.
>mfw someone got so asshurt at the annotated soundtrack video they made their own without annotations
>>316663025
This is another reason, the game is extremely authentic and representative of the creator's vision. It's a reflection of everything he likes. It doesn't take any compromises, nor does it feel impersonal and anonymous.
That's not for everyone, but the point is, make a game that only you could make.
>>316642524
It's just been several months since anything else really good came out.
Bloodborne was better. We just all forgot.
>>316663000
I'm surprised I hadn't stumbled upon this on Steam. Gigantic Army was pretty cool.
>>316663305
>explain all the gay characters, the genderless protagonist, and fucking mettaton then.
The creator is fine with making gay characters, a protagonist that any player can fill the shoes of, and a crazy sexual robot. Your deranged tumble war US V THEM nonsense has nothing to do with it.
>a lot of anthropomorphic animals in his game,
All but one of which are sexualized, and even then as a joke.
In fact, the most sexualized characters are a robot and a skeleton. Everything else is fan made crap.
If you honestly taken a serious stance against it for these reasons, youve deluded yourself. You're looking for drama. A 'villain' of sorts you can use as a scapegoat for when a game makes you uncomfortable for reasons you don't want to consider or analyze.
Just another angry /v/irgin.
>>316660229
Not that faggot but the beginning of the ruins and Flowie's dialogue DEFINITELY comes from a far deeper world than anything, including himself in the true endings, does later.
"WHAT IF YOU MET A RUTHLESS KILLER"
99% of monsters are based on internet humor, pure animal instinct, anime tropes, or quirky innocence. Not an actual negative bone in their body.
"DON'T YOU FEEL LIKE A DICK KILLING GOAT MOM?"
No, you just intentionally cheated by making the damage multiply as a "Killing intent" buff when the dialogue implies you should be strong enough to fight less noble people.
It has a very childish mindset towards grey morals which makes the metanarrative a bunch of filler bullshit. As far as story telling, it could just be regular ole time travel and no difference would be needed.
>>316663639
fair enough. I guess all the homosex and lolrandom humor just reeks of tumblr and makes me dislike it then.
>>316663692
Nice. We should celebrate with more annotations.
>people complain about pixel shit
>still trip all over themselves to call Undershit art
>meanwhile, good pixelated games like serpent in the staglads (and with good gameplay and good story to boot, unlike undershit) get's ignored because it isn't a meme game
>>316645357
most fan art is pretty 'I waited for you fry' level shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le-FLQfmKis
I don't have a problem with the fanbase as I don't surf tumble or furry porn sites. which apparently half of /v/ does
>>316663048
It really does. Toby even smugly admits it through Sans with his "you really like hot animals" joke.
The game shamelessly steals from every successful cult game and indie game and then panders to every Internet subculture while hamming itself into a meme frenzy. It also combines internet memeing with cartoon Sanic catchphrase memeing.
This self-awareness and calculation is ultimately what makes it weaker than Cave Story or LISA. It's not wholly innocent of popular culture, it panders and is aware of who it's marketing itself to--even smugly so--with its scads of barely tweaked and hidden memes.
It's "impressive" at first glance but will ultimately be forgotten because it's too derivative.
Toby's pretty smart and smugly self-assured while affecting something worthy of classic status because "he figured out the formula", and that kind of disingenuousness is offputting. It's calculation marketing itself as otherworldly fantasy rather than otherworldly fantasy itself. It is "the Internet" wearing a mask that says "I am not of the world."
It's ultimately too derivative to endure. It's the Eragon of indie games.
>>316663848
>99% of monsters are based on internet humor, pure animal instinct, anime tropes, or quirky innocence. Not an actual negative bone in their body.
He's talking about himself. Foreshadowing omega flowey's taunts.
>>316663834
I was fine with everything you said up until
>Just another angry /v/irgin.
>posted on boards.4chan.org/v/
you forget where you are m8? also it is a bit us vs them, I don't want tumblr anywhere near me or the sites I go on and I think many other anons share that interest.
>>316663664
If you go genocide, you will never learn about the gay characters. The two knights are only shown as gay if you spare them, and the Alphys/Undyne thing can only be done in a true pacifist run and is entirely optional if it triggers you that much.
>>316663848
I just took at as Flowey being a short sided edgy fag.
Also:
>killing goat mom when the game makes it VERY clear you don't have to kill anyone.
Actions have consequences, and the game follows suit.
>>316664054
holy shit, you've perfectly and eloquently said everything i've been trying to say for a week. thank you.
>>316664013
>Dog couple are cyclopses
wait really?
>>316664007
That game looks pretty rad. Too bad I'm never in the mood for CRPGs.
>>316663692
I ALREADY FILED A COPYRIGHT STRIKE SINCE HE DIDN'T ATTRIBUTE THE VIDEO TO ME (I'M POSITIVE HE JUST DOWNLOADED THE VIDEO ITSELF) WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF THE CREATIVE COMMONS LICENSE THE VIDEO IS UNDER
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOLKS
MORE ANNOTATIONS
I'M SURE YOU KNOW THE RULES BY NOW
>>316664187
>for a week
>a whole week
>>316663928
People can no longer distinguish what is "tumblr" and what isn't.
>>316664098
>game encourages nonviolence
>go through it only killing random encounters every so often, I believe I was on neutral path.
>welp, everyone's a fag!
>>316664080
>I don't want tumblr anywhere near me or the sites I go on and I think many other anons share that int
Then you're needlessly categorizing. All for the sake of belonging to a group that doesn't give a rats ass about you.
>>316664187
You've spent a whole week shitposting this game? And couldn't manage to pwice together a coherent though about it?
What do you think that says about you?
>>316664226
SANS CUMS GUMMI WORMS
put it during Premonition
>>316664187
Good job.
>>316664310
no, it's for the sake of not having to deal with disgusting people that promote censorship and degeneracy.
that sekrit club shit died a long time ago, kid.
>>316664013
>that ending
>>316664226
Fucking ruthless. Let's meme it up!
>>316664194
probally just the artists interpretations?
>>316664335
that I should probably go back to school.
>>316664392
>promote censorship
God forbid a game have possible gay characters in it
>>316664226
>WHO PUT SPIDERS ON MY DICK
During Spider Dance
>>316642524
It's because modern gaming sucks. I didn't even like Undertale but it was better than all of these "AAA" games this year.
This is nothing new. Indie games have been better than "AAA" games for a long time now.
>>316664058
But
That's
Fucking
Stupid
Since then that makes him nothing more than a whiny goat boy faggot who thinks way too highly himself while so called "not having a soul".
It's the same exact obnoxious anti-christ child JRPG final boss "DON'T KILL HIM, YOU'LL JUST BE HIM THAT WAY!" bullshit that doesn't get any better because you can hug him in the end.
>>316664392
>spends a whole week trying to do the opposite
>>316664335
>i don't know what shitposting means
>i think it means when someone doesn't like something i like
>>316664369
ADDED
>>316664403
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT IS NO LAUGHING MATTER
>>316664492
ADDED
I've said it before
While I did like the game,the true pacifist final boss battle with asriel is fucking clique as it can get
>muh friend
>i hate u
>here is my ultimate attack that will damage you a lot but not kill you
>pls stop
>ok i give up *cry*
>>316664531
>undertake is jrpg inspired
Shocker
Keep on whining about it
Maybe use "smug" and "meme" 15 times a post too
>>316664475
don't mind gay characters in my games, already said I thought LISA did it far better than undertale.
gays have nothing to do with censorship anyway I was talking about tumblr as a whole. or are you one of those delusional fucks who thinks gays actually have some big agenda?
>>316664537
i'm not that anon, guy. i've been at it far longer than a week and actually stayed in school, unlike him. >>316664470
Can we all just agree thatI should start existing again? Please?
>>316664392
>no, it's for the sake of not having to deal with disgusting people that
Enough.
You're just generalizing. By your arguments, anything even remotely associated with tumblr must have all the stupid shit we mock them for. Nothing is so black and white. You're wasting your life caring about something so trivial and limiting.
I played the demo and the game was just boring
of course this game will "shine" when its going up against processed shit such as AC, fallout 4, and that new tomb raider garbage
>>316664706
Sounds like a good annotation. Should we add it?
>>316663848
> "WHAT IF YOU MET A RUTHLESS KILLER"
to be fair, the asgore/undyne boss fights kinda fit into this
>>316664845
Only if you put it during the Asriel battle theme
>>316664825givemeyourskin
This game is shit because it won't be remembered in one month/two months/three months/one year/two years/five years/ten years etc etc
I know his because I can predict the future.
>>316664829
butthurt tumblrina detected.
yes, nothing even remotely related to tumblr is welcome here.
not sure if it includes undertale, I just think it's a 6/10 game with a bit of bad humor. fanbase is tumblr as fuck thou
>>316664940
I feel like this game will be added to my "beat once a year" schedule along with spyro and chrono trigger.
>>316644028
That's a pretty straight confirmation of how retarded this fanbase of your shitty game is.
>>316664825
uboa?
>>316642524
Dying Light, MGSV, Fallout 4, Blops 3, Halo 5, Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Arkham Knight, and AC Syndicate are all better than that faggy indie crap. Hell, Battlefront, Pillars of Eternity, MKX, and The Order are even better. And we still haven't played Rainbow 6 Siege or Just Cause 3.
>>316645457
This guy gets half of what's going on here. Fuck this faggy game.
>>316664013
>that ending
>>316664187
You're welcome. It took me a while to work it out, myself.
>>316664901
Of course.
>>316664226
Put HOT GOAT ASS in during Fallen Down or Home
>>316664103
Yes. Don't kill anyone.
It doesn't say don't beat them within an inch of their lives.
It doesn't say don't fairly contest them.
It doesn't say run away all the time.
The full on damage buff on Toriel with half HP just comes off as abandoned filler when the game wasn't bluntly black and white in everything but the most shallow ways.
>>316664714
Just because it's shit in other games, doesn't mean I should tolerate it in UT.
You probably don't even like JRPGs to begin with.
And then there's the whole "you'll fit right in" message Toriel gives you if you go PLATINUM EDGE with slashing her with her guard open. It can't just be Flowey at that point, and yet it NEVER IS.
>>316642524
>Shit ate urine, momma mia!
>>316665137
ADDED
>>316665069Stop calling be Uboa you fucking retard.I don't even know who the fuck that is.Listen, I just want to fucking exist again. But nooo, you faggots gotta call me Uboa or request my skin.I don't fucking have skin anymore, I'm fucking non-existent!I swear, I bet you're that fucker who took my place and took all credit for the creation of the Core, my creation!Yes, I am talking to you, you lizard-fuck. I hope you get erased out of existence, so you may feel how fucking useless one can become.
>>316665020
Yeah. I use Tumblr. Not nearly as long as I've been 4chan though. And over the past year I've been regularly checking out Reddit's front page for random news.
I have no one to impress, and neither do you.
Your whole claim is centered around the idea that those who like this game must be those 'evil tumblrinas'. I'm not into SJW bullshit, I just like an engaging experience.
>>316665406
okay, you can go fuck off back to tumblr and reddit then.
you're not welcome here in any regard.
>>316665349
Hey Ima flick the light switch on and off for a bit.
Lemme know if you start existing.
>>316665181
I never said you had to like it you stupid fuck. Of course it's shit, why would anything in this memetale tumblrina furryyifftail memeshit taleshit furrymeme tumblrtale memefurrytumblrgame be good in the first place?
>>316665467
>you're not welcome here in any regard.
As if that ever stopped me.
Honestly, what can you do about it but whine at me for a while, then agree with me in the next thread. Don't be such a pawn.
>>316662351
Tsundereplane was an enemy designed by a Kickstarter backer.
Same as So Sorry and that spider boss.
>>316665181
or you can just reload your save then not kill toriel
>>316664450
Animator mentioned in the comments that that's how they seemed appeared in-game.
>>316665574
don't be such a faggot. you know where you belong now go there.
>>316664054
>It's the Eragon of indie games.
fucking E P I C
>>316665574
Congrats, you're just a normie/redditor that will never fit in here. Good for you, I guess.
>>316665694
I just saw it as a profile shot like you'd see on a coin
>>316665707
Nah. I think I'll just shift between whatever I want like any rational person.
Like I've been doing for 8 years now.
No one ever notices until you bring it up. That's how valuable your anonymous 4chan cred is.
Good mechanics, catchy soundtrack, not too short or long, no grinding or fetch quests, lot of variety, no DLC no early access, nice complete experience, lots of optional styff, cheap, can run on any computer imaginable.
There's lots of reasons why it's better than AAA stuff.
>>316658596
I saw you the other day.
You are the faggot who thinks Tsundere and Moe are mutually exclusive terms.
Fucking retard.
>>316665509
>You don't have to like it
>I just felt the need to defend it FOR NO REASON
You have genuine schizophrenia sir.
>>316665587
And then Flowey shits on you for it.
Jesus Christ, did any of you play the actual DEMO? Never mind the full game.
>>316665912
>no grinding
You didn't play RIP AND TEAR mode, which is fine, because that shit gets boring, and if you do that first, you fuck yourself out of a good ending
objectively Fo4 > Tumblertail
and that says a lot, considering how shit Fo4 is
also find another bait already
>>316665895
>thinking anyone on here cares about cred
here's your reblog senpai, further proof all you tumblrinas and ledditors are just in it for internet coolpointsI started r/neverbegameover because I got shitposed out of /v/ with my MGSV conspiracy bullshit, after a week it became obvious reddit is absolute cancer and you should feel bad about being a part of it
>>316665349
This is the gayest shit ever. Definitely the faggiest thing I've seen this week.
Congratulations.
>>316666017
>And then Flowey shits on you for it.
Oh no. A little guilt for doing a bad thing.
You can still get the nice ending.
>>316666137
I thought Flowey said he used his own save powers to undo your save scum, thats why Toriel won't talk to me.. right?
>>316665998
what? moe is just liking cute anime shit, and tsundere is an anime grill who acts like a bitch but secretly wants to fuck.
>>316666058
No mandatory grinding.
>>316666017
>flowey bantz!
Who gives a shit what he thinks
I haven't played it yet. Is the fish girl literally Vriska?
>>316666126How about we two take it to the gym and get it on?
I just got the true pacifist ending, and boy was that a trip.I was not expecting Alphys to literally be worse that Hitler.
>>316642524
Yeah, so BTFO it wasn't even considered a GOTY nominee by the biggest review site.
>>316666207
I don't recall that at all.
Reason why Toriel won't return the calls:A dog stole it. If you actually wait for Toriel in the beginning when she tells you to, the phone gets stolen by a dog and that's why she never actually comes (and you gotta go through yourself). She gets it back, but the dog will take it again when you leave. Either that or she just doesn't want to return the calls.
>>316666137
>>316666301
Are you both retarded and forgetting we're talking about the writing?
You're on the level of Steven Universe fans who just blabber out the reasons when they're crying that episode instead of saying why it's good writing.
>>316666304
pretty much.
the homosuck influence in this game is nauseating.
>>316666118
You started a fucking subreddit and here you are losing your shit calling everyone else here a redditor
>>316666118
>proof all you tumblrinas and ledditors are just in it for internet coolpoints
Odd. That's exact opposite of what I care about.
I really don't care what you think of me about it. I just want you to realize that it's pointless to damn whole groups and whatever's popular with them with because of a few loud idiots. It shows a lack of value in your own identity and beliefs.
>>316666293
No, you are just a fucking troll.
Moe is a feeling, Tsundere is an archetype you fucking uncultured swine.
Fucking Kenshiro and Guts are pretty moe.
>>316664013
>Profile pic
>Horse fucker
Every fucking time.
>>316642524
It didn't. It's a decent game that was the product of an excellent campaign of shilling, including, primarily and most notably, 'fan artists'. By immortalizing the mostly unforgettable characters in the game in fan art, it entices people to see what the game is all about.
Plus, Undertale is only $9.99, so the barrier of entry is literally 'dig in your couch cushion for change' tier of accessible to the average gamer, and because it can run on your fax machine's LCD display, it's even more accessible.
Look back at all the indies that got popular without any real warning. Shit like Cave Story, FNAF, Shovel Knight. None of these are particularly amazing games, but because of the low barrier of entry, the fanbase behind them (notably, many of the most prominent supporters are also artists; this is not a coincidence), and the short length of these games catering to the ADD generation of kiddos and basement dwellers who are loathe to part from their game of the month, these things persist and do extremely well.
>>316666407
Says the faggot who even knows who the fuck that character even is.
>>316666396
>Either that or she just doesn't want to return the calls
I always thought it was this since she asks you not to return once you leave.
Then again would have been nice to call and tell her I was about to shank her faggot ex husband but he got killed by a flower.
>>316666207
>>316666396
Also I want to point that that Flowey states very explicitly that with your arrival, his save powers are no more. He can't fuck with you like that.
>>316666408
I had nowhere else to go with my bullshit, thought reddit's 'anyone can make a hugbox' platform would facilitate my needs. turns out it was just as cancerous as I thought.
>>316666409
seems like it's all you care about. you keep replying after all :^)
>>316642802
This is hilarious
>>316666458
>Moe is a feeling,
>liking qt anime shit isn't a feeling
>Gutts is moe as fuck and I based my best DaS build off him
>never got into fist of the north star, so he might be moe for all I know
how am I trolling m8? just because I can't define moe as well as you?
>>316645940
Haha holy fuck thats hilarious
>>316657014
Heh that image
>>316666824
Well now you know the definition of moe, stop using moe to describe something so superficially and actually learn to use other words. Tsundere characters are pretty moe for a lot of people so saying shit like "I like moe but not tsundere" is pretty dumb.
>>316657609
Aw man I actually feel bad for normal people who just happen to like plumbertale.
>>316663848
>WHAT IF YOU MET A RUTHLESS KILLER
Undyne and Asgore can't be spared, they can only give up. Mettaton EX would have killed you if it weren't for Blook's and other fans' phone calls. Sans would be pretty ruthless if he didn't make a promise to Toriel. A lot of monsters don't even realize that you're a human, because they probably haven't actually seen a human before.
But it's more likely that he's just referring to himself, and also trying to bait you into killing things as self-defense.
>>316658640
And he got 1000 shekels for it. My man.
>>316667295
it's mildly interesting for weirdness value
>Games unarguably better than Undertale in any reasonable's person opinion released in 2015 (Chronological order)
Bloodborne
Pillars of Eternity
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Super Mario Maker
The Age of Decadence
Fallout 4
If you honestly disagree with any of the games listed above being better than Undertale, you're a and not worth listening to.
>Games that may or may not be better than Undertale but are about on par released in 2015 (Chronological order)
Blackguards 2
Cities: Skylines
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number
Ori and the Blind Forest
Titan Souls
Crypt of the Necrodancer
Splatoon
Massive Chalice
Rocket League
Galak-Z: The Dimensional
Volume
Until Dawn
Soma
Prison Architect
Downwell
Yoshi's Woolly World
Rise of the Tomb Raider
StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void
If you honestly think Undertale is for sure better than every single one of all of the games listed above, you're a and not worth listening to.
>>316663751
>le meme bears
you should pay a visit to
>>>/trash/
and stay there
>>316667653
>no serpent in the staglands
You're gay
When will /v/ learn that obsessively hating something is just as autistic as being an overly-enthusiastic fanboy?
>>316667907
considering /v/ is where all the social rejects go, perhaps never
>grr furries
huh?
thats like calling loony toons furry
>>316663305
dude
gay people who exist aren't pandering to gay people
they're just gay, faggot
who cares if they're gay
nobody gives a fuck
also, who cares if he put them in
are you going to tell me walt disney was a furfag because he had fucking bambi
jesus christ, nigga
i've never used Tumblr in my life
i hate homestuck
i have no strong feelings about furries
i hate memes
>>316667653
>Fallout 4
You lost me there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psplbU7MolE
>>316669698
he lost me at Phantom Content but apparently we're not worth listening to
>>316657501
Mettaton is not a female ghost. Everyone always refers to him a male. Napstablook says "he" when referring to his cousin. Mettaton is just one really glam dude.
>>316657501
oops, meant for
>>316657320
>>316648056
>responding to shitposters
>hating anime
>sigh
whelp
>>316670769
>Alphys pours every ounce of her horny fujoshit fantasies into creating Mettaton to be the ultimate fuccboi
>still gets BTFO by the anime goat kid who has 10x the porn
>>316671232
I want to boop goatkid's snootleplatonically
>>316670769
>tfw I'm on this boss but I dropped my stick.
>>316670769
He's basically just david bowie, and david bowie is awesome
>>316671527
I always saw him more as a Micheal Jackson myself.
What with his obsession with having a new body.
>>316671392
>I want to boop goatkid's snootleWhich one?
>>316671753
MJ was never very feminine though. Just... childish
>>316671793
The one on his face, obviously
>>316671906
His entire body is a face. He's a flower.
>>316671454
OH FUCK YOU PLAYED WITH AN ARCADE STICK??
I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THAT GODDAMNIT
>>316672063
Then allow me to elaborateI want to boop the snootle on goatkid's face while he has enough souls to allow him to achieve a goatkid form, or during his time pre-mortem
>>316672067
oh man, imagine binding a lot of buttons to z and a lot of buttons to x for maximum speedrunning
>>316672252
Is that another term for "facefuck Flowey"?
>>316650375
>>316650383
I'm the guy you're quoting.
Just finished the good ending. You were right, it was good to leave the thread, I thought the "good ending" would've just been everybody leaving and living happily ever after, but there was so much more. The whole friendship stuff I totally missed the first time around.
That fake-out during the credits almost made me lose it, though. I was about to go to Twitter and call Toby a nigger if that had been yet another trick by the flower.
This was a very good game. Yeah you can argue that it pretty much forces you to replay it, but the second time playing it goes pretty quickly, sped through everything in an hour and a half, so it wasn't too bad.
Games like these live and die by their characters and writing, and both of those were fantastic. Add to it the interesting battle mechanic, and I'd give this game a solid 9/10. Points taken off for making you replay it and for some really lame puzzles. But otherwise, fucking hell this is without a doubt my favorite game of this year that I've played.
>>316672703
Now do it again and this time kill them all.
>>316672845
Nah, if I want to see the ending for that I'll probably just watch a walkthrough or something. I don't feel like playing through the whole thing again just to kill all my friends.
>>316673030
>I'll probably just watch a walkthrough or something.
>>316672703
though I ended up resetting after the neutral end even though I went pacifist, I think you can actually reload the save and go on the pacifist ending path.
it's just weird though, because to get the phone call you gotta return from the core, but you have barely any reason to go back after reaching Asgore.
>>316673178
Are
You
Fucking
Shitting
Me.
>>316673178
Please tell me this isn't real. Please tell me Toby isn't this much of a sadist.
>>316673360
oh it's real alright
>>316673030
>being a pathetic person too weak to do it themselves
Come on, partner. Let's finish what we started.
>>316673360
Oh it's real alright. Flowey doesn't let anyone get anyway with anything.
>>316673360
It's as real as can be.At the end you cut the fuck out of Flowey who's begging and crying using Asriel's face and voice before meeting Literally Satan and destroying the game.
>>316658381
Duck Game
>>316658381
vermintide
you didnt say no furrys :^)
>>316673259
>>316673360
The entire theme of Genocide is "Well you've satisfied your sick compulsive curiosity, but at what cost?"
Do you think it would have any weight if people could just watch it second-hand without feeling the guilt?
>>316673425
>>316673473
>>316673418
Okay, you know what? Fuck Flowey. I don't wanna know. I'm not gonna watch it, OR read up on it OR do it myself. Fuck you Flowey, I'm not playing your shitty game. I beat your fucking dirt-ass fair and square, I saved goat mama and goat papa, I saved the fish lesbos and the knucklehead skeletons. I'm not going to just go back and undo it all just because Toby is a sick fuck.I'm just glad there aren't achievements for the different endings or else I really would go back and kill them all.
>>316673030
>Nah, if I want to see the ending for that I'll probably just watch a walkthrough or something
have fun with that
>>316673676
It doesn't matter, anon. The seed is within you now, germinating. In a week, or perhaps two, you'll break, reset, and kill them all. Because you want to see what happens when you do.
>>316673676
I feel that sans said it pretty nicelybut now, you've reached the end. there is nothing left for you now. so, uh, in my personal opinion... the most "determined" thing you can do here? is to, uh, completely give up. and... do literally anything else.
I still killed him, and moved forward. because I wanted to see... and sate my sick completionist tendency.
>>316642524
>tfw you've become so disillusioned with the true ending that you try and talk random /v/irgins into going genocide so they can share your pain
>>316673676
Open the game
your best friend wants a chat with you
>>316674090
FUCK
EVERYTHING
>>316674089
>true ending
you are the master of that universe
any ending you choose is the true ending
>>316642524
it is pretty good once you play it without assuming it is a meme game.
>>316674198
Then I choose destruction. And so to should you.
>>316674179
Go ahead, anon. Click the button. Reset everything and do what need be done. Satisfy your curiosity so you can finally move on.
After all, they're just pixels, and you can always go back and do things right again.
>>316671753
this desu.
I hate when people compare robotrap to bowie.
>>316669145
>disney was a furfag because he had bambi
walt disney was the first furfag and biggest one of them all.
his company is still doing it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9lmhBYB11U
>>316665754
i forgot this games, name can you remind me? (not in the meme way)
>>316674659
uboa.
>>316674603
FURRIES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>316674684
thanks senpai
>>316674593
The thought's already in your head. It's started.
>>316674603
The furfag uprising is happening
>>316674593
I like your style, anon. Don't listen to all the soul-selling fucks who want to drag you down into their despair with them. You're better than them
>>316674871
kung fu panda is nice tho.
>>316642524
Furry tumblrina neofag meme game that's cheap enough to become viral.
So like Freddy's except this one is more SJW friendly and less crazy christian.
>>316674895
I just spent 12 hours trying to undo the fact that I killed Toriel by accident in the first half hour of playing the game. There is not an ounce of me that wants to go back and kill her again, nor Sans, nor Undyne, nor Alphys or Asgore.
>>316674871
>the nut job
fucking lost.
>>316674895
He tried mocking us instead of ignoring us. It's already started. He's thinking of how different the game would be right now I bet.
I mean, what would it be like if you killed Papyrus? Or if instead of helping you Alphys tried fighting you? How would you deal with Snowdin if you were a ruthless killer?
This world is pointless. You've seen the best of what it has to offer. Now why not see the worst?
>>316674895
Jesus Christ, the autism this game generates is making me cry for the species.
This next generation can't differentiate between fantasy and reality. There will be laws soon against killing groups of pixels.
Fuck Generation Z. I hope you all commit suicide out of self-loathing and cognitive dissonance about having to kill and eat a defenseless carrot to survive.
>>316661548
You have to pay for her college first
>>316675043
Eventually you'll stop caring. It happens to everyone. Eventually you'll just see them as pixels and code. Lines of dialogue, sets of numbers.
Also the new bosses are really, really fucking cool and challenging as hell.
>>316675116
even though all of the autism, characters seemed pretty live to me at my first playthrough. i was blown away by how realistic they acted at first.
>>316675116
>Jesus Christ, the autism this game generates is making me cry for the species
Friendly reminder that people committed suicide after watching James Cameron's Avatar because they wanted to be reborn on a planet like Pandora.
Caring for fictional characters isn't autistic at all, people have done so since the beginning of humanity.
>>316675190
Despite everything they're still just NPCs. They follow predictable set patterns, say the same things every time, fight the same every time.
>>316675326
yeah, but it was my first playthrough, so i was expecting a branching story rather than a static route. everyone makes mistakes desu
>>316675307
He is right. Why do you think ISIS still exists?
>>316675307
>Friendly reminder that people committed suicide after watching James Cameron's Avatar because they wanted to be reborn on a planet like Pandora
>Caring for fictional characters isn't autistic at all
Unfriendly reminder that you just described severe mental illness and then characterized it as "normal."
Great job proving his point better than any argument. You're patient zero.
>>316658704
>pander to a tumblr/autist/furry/4chan crowd and make sure the gameplay is semi-decent to go with it.
Also noticing that these games aren't particularly complex in terms of modeling or programming. They should be able to run on toasters for more potential downloads.
>>316675448
Implying that it is a mental ilness, tell me about all the terrorist attacks around the globe.
>>316675448
>caring for fictional characters is autistic
Friendly reminder thatRando did nothing wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXzSY-bNIiQ
>>316675542
Yes, organized religion is standardized mental illness, you otherkin dumbfuck.
>>316675448
>Unfriendly reminder that you just described severe mental illness
Yes, in the Avatar case. Killing yourself because of a fictional world is proof of mental illness.
Caring for fictional characters has nothing to do with mental illness.
>>316674871
Only Bakemono no Ko and maybe Zootopia will be any good.
>>316675681
I don't know, Rock Dog seemed decent for a low-budget Chinese film, KFP3 might be cool since the first 2 were alright (or it might be Shrek the Third 2 electric boogaloo).
>>316675631
>attempts to shut down a religious belief that every single religious people believe
>calls me an otherkin dumbfuck
>mfw
>>316675648
Caring about them to the extent that you wring your hands over their fate and act like you've committed some grave sin by pushing a button is.
I've seen too much autism and the future is clear. I give up, now. I'm just going to watch the world burn as this new generation cries itself to the long sleep.
>>316675854
>people cry when characters they like die
>people not wanting to kill characters they like is autistic
I don't get it.
>>316672703
Okay but... did you go back and talk to EVERYONE?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dlm_p1ZxA
>>316675116
At least it's a game, back in the day people would make up a religion and try to convince everyone to follow their retarded make believe shit.
>>316676120
Oh goddammit I knew there was going to be something in the Ruins, but I said EH FUGGIT and didn't go back.
>>316676019
You miss half the game by not doing it, and it's just the game.
I actually think Toby is somewhat irresponsible with this excessive meta shit on young autists such as yourself.
This reminds me of that kid who watched Naruto and buried himself in sand so he could become a sand ninja and died.
It's like you're all an entire generation like that, and Toby exploited that vulnerability.
Games that don't contextualize themselves as games are dangerous. It's like all that shit the conservatives feared about D&D turning kids into Satanists is true when games take themselves this seriously and refuse to admit they are merely entertainment.
Undertale should be rated M for Mature.
>>316676221
>2015
>people makes up something that you can see, experience and hear and no one believes
>medieval ages
>some old man comes out of house and yells "GOD IS UPON YOU"
>new religion
>mfw
>>316676396
Now you gotta restart andkill them all.Then make things right with another pacifist run... right?
>>316676256
>He didn't go back to tsundere cactus
Well it's not like it wanted to see you again or anything...
>>316676482
>>316676256
quoted wrong post my b
>>316676490
It's not bait you meme loving fuck
>>316676405
I like to picture it like every single person was the guy from "ancient aliens" except instead of aliens it was some deity.
>>316676405
nah nigga in medieval times they'd just crucify you for heresy
>>316676396
You're saying that somebody who doesn't want to go back and kill everybody in a video game after already playing through the game twice to get the good ending where they save everybody is the same as some kid who killed himself thinking he can become a sand ninja?
The fuck does this even mean
>>316676396
"gee that was an entertaining game. I was quite pleased. so pleased, I don't really care to do a genocide run because it doesn't really appeal to me. so I'll just leave it at that."
do you bitch at people who play Deus Ex HR full stealth and don't bother ever going loud?
>>316676396
This is probably the most autistic post I've seen on /v/ in a while. Good job, anon.
>>316662125
Lisa is like Fist of the north star, enjoy nigger
>>316675190
>realistic
holy shit man who are you hanging out with?
wait i'm in a tumblrtale thread I know exactly who you're hanging out with.
>>316664054
screen cap for memories
>>316664187
>>316665731
>>316677391
>>316664054
So much samefagging
>>316676396
I see your point, but your words are lost on these autistic tumblrinas.
they're beyond saving desu senpai
U-unf...
>>316677540
Back to Reddit with you, faggot
"i vape, child"
THIS IS /V/ 2015 GOTY LOL
Well this was a fun game. I liked LISA a little more, the humour was a bit too cutesy for me I guess. Its all good though.
Should I do the pacifist run? I basically never replay games once I've beaten them once. Is it actually worth it to replay or should I watch a walkthrough?
>>316677475
nah senpai.
>>316677758
maximum cringe.check this fresh original character.
http://ask-unnamed.tumblr.com/page/2
>>316677475
nope
>>316677882
by the sounds of it, you won't care for the happy ending. you can probably safely just move on.
>>316677895
>screenshots proving anything
how new are you
>>316678042
nice html skills faggot.
>>316677882
pacifist doesnt have that much of a difference desu save for the ending
watch a playthrough of pacifist and then do a genocide run, the game gets ridiculously hard
>>316677848
shit anon, you just went full homosex.
I hate the shit out of undermeme and there's no way i'm saving that. what the fuck.
>>316678042
>undermeme gets btfo with lengthy and well-written critique
>UIDF brigades thread
>"samefag!"
>"shitpost!"
>"don't respond to shitposters!"
>"where's the criticism i only see shitposting!"
>"explain where are the memes i didn't see a meme"
>"i didn't see any furries please list all the furries in the game"
>"what? i don't understand. there are no furries in this game"
>"list all the furries and memes in this game"
>"huh? i didn't see a single meme or furry in this game"
>"how does this pander to sjws? i don't see any sjw in this game"
>"this game was nominated for a 'games for change' award? doesn't mean anything"
>"awards don't mean anything didn't pander to sjw"
>"name a single gay character in this game"
>"huh? just because the main character is genderless doesn't mean anything"
>"huh? the only straight masculine character is a villain and everyone else is a faggot or asexual"
>"doesn't mean it's tumblr pandering"
>"i don't understand please list all the memes in this game"
>"i didn't see any furries where are the furries in the game"
>"okay, but how? where are the furries and memes?"
>"but where are the gay characters? lol"
>"i didn't see anything that pandered in this game about furries or memes"
>"lol? where are the memes and furries and gays?"
>"do not respond to shitposters"
>"i didn't see a single meme or furry in this game"
cunt destroyer
>>316642524
>So, how did a humble independent game BTFO most AAA titles
because in 2015 independent games are better than AAA games
>>316666339
It's fine though
>>316678462
i want to destroy asriels boypussy
>>316678582
you know it's true though.
it's how every undertale thread so far has gone. to a T.
>>316678649
didn't even read it
just looked like butthurt
Best OST coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btuP1dPoYVM
>humble
>>316678726
it's pure butthurt anon.
>It's soooo deeeeeeep because the monsters are actually friendly
>It's subverting expectations
>Don't you get it anon?
>It's deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
Under tale isn't even that interesting, the only feature that makes it stand out is the option to spare bosses really..
>>316678936
I hate games that do this shit
>>316679219
neat, but what does that have to do with Undertale I wonder?
>>316679464
Everything has something to do with Undertale these days
Wasn't Toby Fox working on Homestuck? Undertale's fanbase was doomed from the start
>>316680635
He was one of the music composers, yes.
As soon as I started hearing about it my first thought was "homestuck-tier shit with a similar fanbase in mind that's bound to get cult status real fast" and it turns out I wasn't wrong in the slightest.
>>316660267
>FNAF
>meme game
>not just a modern revival of trap games like Night Trap and Double Switch that got popular