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How is the game, lads?
>>316581249
Worth a pirate, not worth buying. Gets boring after ~7-8 hours.
Awful as an RPG or a fallout game, pretty good as an open world shooter
>>316581283
Open world usually get me too.
mediocre at best
some cool tidbits but thats about it
>>316581249
I'm liking it so far, around 20 hours of gameplay. I don't know why there are some many persons shitting on the game.
I would like to know: How long do you have to wait in one location for enemies to respawn in cleared locations/dungeons?
>>316581249
I like the new crafting and building system
strangely addictive.
I hated FO3 and Skyrim but just doing chores in this game (helping settlements, growing settlements, creating trade networks, etc) oddly hasn't got boring after 30 hours.
It's no New Vegas but it has some lasting appeal and mods are going to make it amazing.
Worth a pirate.
>>316581579
From my experience they don't unless you take a settlement quest to clear them out again.
It's basically the equivalent of Skyrim's "INFINITE QUESTS" where you can just clear out a building again.
bland an ugly
>tfw actually jealous of people playing it just because I want to make cool characters in the character creator
>>316581637
This.
I've spend almost 22 hours turning Sanctuary into a fortress.
The bridge is the only way in, and has two high towers on each side with spot lights and turrets.
Gameplay is fun, best it been yet, but overall way too easy.
The new stat and perk system is even worse than I anticipated. It barely makes sense (especially the special requirements for perks) and you can still pick up and be effective with a minigun without any related perks and 1 strength.
Companions are surprisingly interesting.
Story is completely awful, roleplaying experience is non-existent.
7/10, mods will make it pretty good from a gameplay perspective once good overhauls come out.
>>316581982
you're going to fucking love The Castle.
I like it a lot, worth getting no matter how you do, I bought it and I certainly don't regret it, I've been doing a lot of side quests to avoid that awful story quest writing and I've been entertained for a long time
Do you think it might be discounted during the christmas sales on Steam having only been released in November? Even if it's only 10%, I'm poor as fuck.
>>316582049
What difficulty are you playing on? I have it on hard and I die all the fucking time because ammo is sparse and things almost always hit pretty hard
>>316582240
Maybe but not much.Obviously they'll expect it to sell regardless at Xmas, but maybe Steam is different because at Xmas surely nobody buys anything that isn't on sale.
>>316581249
its like having sex with ex, you know she is bitch and dumped you for money. But you just cant stop having guilty sex with her
>>316582272
I think it depends on playstyle.
I went full charisma and int and have upgraded the pistol perk to 4/5, I die pretty often because I don't use power armor.
It's kind of annoying to constantly feel like I'm playing the game wrong.
Also playing on hard.
>>316582058
Oh boy. I don't think my autism can take it, if it turns out to be more enjoyable building shit in The Castle.
>>316582374
jesus christ
>>316582374
Ohh haha she got big- OH NO!
>>316582374
They grow up so fast.
>>316582374
i feel like this is all i need to know
>>316581249
Fun.
The settlement building is kind of glitchy to work with but oddly addicting. I came home from work the other day and meant to go out and take care of stuff. Instead I spent about 2 hours building a small dormitory for my settlers, complete with bathroom and kitchen and couches and a stairway to a upstairs where I placed some laser turrets pointed at the opening in the outer wall.
>>316582374
Fallout 40 keks
>>316582386
Castle is less of a blank canvas than Sanctuary or some of the other settlements, but it's got winding stone hallways that are all already wired (just supply a generator and it's all already got lighting).
It also has large walls surrounding it, a chem store prebuilt and you learn how to make artillery there.
I think I will enjoy the new call of duty more than this, which is bizarre for me.
>>316582374
Funniest thing I've seen all week.
>>316582374
>"Boss, what if a child enters the power suit?"
>"Uuh just setscale 1.5 and fuck my shit up."
>>316582272
hard mode. I lose health pretty rapidly in some situations with a little under 50 dt, but since you find stimpaks everywhere it's no issue, and my upgraded weapons kills deathclaws in three seconds.
>>316582508
>Someone is using console commands to set someone as a companion
>WTF, the game is buggy when people use console commands, 0/10 game
-you
Has anyone gotten their hands on Nuka Cola? What does it taste like? I went to target but it sold out within hours of coming out
>>316582567
Fun fact: adults scale up too, just you don't see it.
I didn't realize you had to remove fusion cores from your armors so an adult settler stole one of my armors.
I found her looking like this.
Then I told her to "get out of powerarmor"
I expected my set of T51 to appear but it never did.
I need to find some more now.
>>316582728
Me?
>>316582728
Literally a boolean:
Canusepowerarmor = false;
No fuck ups even with console commands
Far Cry: Post Apocalypse.
Pros:
>Lots to explore
>Lots to shoot
Cons:
>Almost no RPG elements remaining in franchise
so I hear people saying hard is difficult but not too bad...
Im playing on survival and the game is piss easy
not too far in yet, is it going to start facerolling me?
I really hope so
>>316581953
>tfw you aren't a roguishly handsome wastelander
>>316582751
ah so that's where the creepy arms come from
>>316582924
Didn't Skyrim have a thing where the hardest difficulty was easier too?
>>316582374
What kinda game you want Senpai?
>>316581249
Best gameplay in an open world Beth game so far.
Fantastic companions, they actually rival New Vegas'.
Very detailed character creation, weapon/armor modding, and settlement building.
Pretty well built and densely packed world, very fun to explore.
Better factions than 3, BoS is vastly improved.
Story is slightly better than 3's but still kinda shit.
Dialogue wheel is shit and the voice acting/background really deter role-playing. Mods fucking when.
Overall, if it gets even half the mods of Skyrim, the game will be pretty damn great in a few months. For now, I'd classify it as "very fun".
>>316582924
Survival only gets difficult when you're fighting massive amounts of enemies because the healing is so slow. Children of Atom can absolutely fuck your day up if you let them surround you and the higher level Feral Ghouls break your arms and legs like they're made of paper. Glowing Mirelurk Hunters can also be nasty if you fight more than a couple.
But yeah, Survival isn't that difficult if you've got a brain about it.
>>316581249
>Enemies with infinite granades, hiding behind cover, continuously throwing that shit at you non stop.
Yeah, it's not very well made.
I can put up with some level scaling problems, with weak as shit enemies surrounding one fucking god like bullet sponge boss, but the infinite grenades take the fucking piss. Huge AoE and stupid damage and thrown at you from any range.
I'm OK with everything else.
>>316582993
>>316583114
wait, so some aspects of hard difficulty are harder than survival?
wtf?
I paid 48 USD, I enjoy the game and find it very fun.
>>316583243
I'm not saying that definitely, I'm saying I remember Skyrim having a weird difficulty system like that.
Also I think it's more to do with how you play, most of the people who are dying on hard aren't using power armor or heavy weapons.
I don't even use rifles.
>arrive inthe institute
>"We've been waiting for you to show up! We'd like to talk to you..."
>They wanted me here so instead of inviting me or abducting me, they waited for me to figure out how to build a teleportation device to come here myself...
Great writing.
It looks like a good base for mods. I'll pirate it in a couple years.
It's pretty alright. I'd describe it as a reskinned borderlands with better writing and some Minecraft sprinkled in. Just don't jump in expecting it to play like the older games.
>>316581249
Good game, bad fallout game. Same as F3.
I'd be okay with it if it was 15 years after the war instead of 215.
>>316581330
So the same as 3. Nice.
Worst fallout to date with a minecraft mod tacked on
>>316583578
>>316583520
>FO3fags pretending its not worse than 4 to stay relevant
it's shit
pirate before you shell out the cash
How long do you have to wait in one location for enemies to respawn in a diffrent cleared location. Bethesda usually does this, so that you can harvest everything you've already harvested. -The Architect
>>316583042
>Best Gamplay in open world Beth game
Agreed. It's still not amazing, but it's far and away the current best of all Bethesda games.
>Fantastic companions; rival New Vegas
I don't know about that. Nick Valentine, Paladin Danse, and Curie are really the only companions I like as much as the New Vegas ones, Piper, Cait, and McCready are all annoying in my opinion, haven't unlocked any others.
>Detailed character creation, weapon/armor modding, and settlement building
Gotta admit I didn't expect to like building settlements as much as I have. The weapon and armor modding is great if a little broken, but I expect mods and DLC to really take advantage of it.
>Pretty well built and densely packed world, very fun to explore
Kinda. It's got some neat areas and isn't as boring as Fallout 3s world, but it's kinda small and not as deep or cohesive as New Vegas.
>Better factions that 3, BoS is vastly improved.
Definitely agreed here. The factions all feel more mature than in 3. I guess they learned their lesson from Obsidian with how to write factions. Still not as good as the Legion, NCR, or House, but definitely a step up from the corny factions in 3.
>Story is slightly better than 3's but still kinda shit
I'd disagree here and say that it's much better than 3's but still kind of shit. Fallout 3 takes the cake for piss poor stories. If the Fallout 4 twist hadn't been ruined for me I'd think it was kind of clever.
>Dialogue wheel is shit and the voice acting/background really deter from role-playing. Mods fucking when.
The voiced protagonist and dialogue wheel don't really bother me because it's pretty much the character I was going to play anyways, but yeah. It really hampers role playing and forces you into a role.
>Overall, if it gets even half the mods of Skyrim, the game will be pretty damn great in a few months. For now, I'd classify it as "very fun"
Yeah. I'd classify it as fun, but I agree. A few mods here and there and some neat DLC will be ace.
> not one person claiming to dislike the game can prove they own the game and have played it
>>316583652
except I thought F3 was a bad fallout game as well
It was still fun when it came out, but I can't go back to it due to NV
>>316583578
Yeah its basically like 3 but improved in every way. Second worst fallout game but an ok game overall
>>316583640
Wrong, based on the fact that Fallout 3 exists. Fallout 3 is far and away the worst game Bethesda has made. I'm surprised it even made enough money to warrant them making Fallout 4.
fallout 1 and 2 being good is a meme
>>316583819
>expecting /v/ to like anything except nintendo and pedo games
you don't go to /v/ to listen, you go to /v/ like you would go to the zoo...to watch the filthy animals fling poo at each other and tap on the glass once in a while
>>316581982
What's the point of building turrets and shit? Do raiders occasionally try to raid your settlements?
>rest of the world is enjoying the game
>it's shit!! says /v/ers
When will /v/ grow up
>FO4 textures are bad
>FO4 isn't as good as NV
>FO4 isn't a RPG anymore
>Dialogue wheel is bad
FUUUUUCKK OOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFF
NO ONE CARES, FUCK OFF
Seriously, the game is fun and that's all that matters, go fuck yourself with this ''FO is supposed to be a RPG'' meme, fuck you, stop being stuck in the past, move on, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.
I'm thoroughly enjoying the game for what it is, you faggots are all just a bunch of whinny, biased cunts who can't appreciate games anymore and just shitpost all day on the internet.
Again, fuck you, all of you.
>>316583967
Yes
>>316583967
Yeah, and turrets help. They're especially nice against Feral Ghouls because they have pinpoint accuracy against those wily fuckers. But unless you build a giant wall around your base and funnel the raiders into a hallway of turrets they won't be able to hold off an invasion themselves.
>>316583987
>>316583993
these, the game is great
What do you gain if you build your settlements?
Like it's fun to build, but why should I do it? What do I actually get out of it?
>>316583967
I've had one group of super mutants attacking my base at Red Rocket, but I don't know if there's supposed to be random attacks.
I sure as hell hope so.
FO2>FO1>FONV>FOT>FO4>FO:BoS>FO3
>>316583993
except the dialogue wheel is shit and you can't effectively skip dialogue without risking to shoot someone in the face
Also fuck having settlers as shopkeeps, half the time they don't work
>>316584145
F04>FNV>F03
havent played the other ancient games.
Finished exploring every place on the map and I have to say it has more places but much less interesting areas than both 3 and NV.
>>316584145
>tactics
>good
Pretty fun.
>>316584102
>What do I actually get out of it?
>>316584102
>it's fun to build
>>316584102
more people = more people to buy from your stores = more money for you
more people = less food and beds and water
more people = more raiders
more guns = less raiders
>>316584215
You've got a case of nostalgia, FNV was an empty boring as shit world.
And Fallout 3 while good atmosphere didnt have nearly as much content as 4
>>316584102
You've gotta be a charisma man to get the most out of settlement building. In fact, I wouldn't even bother working on settlements until you have 2 ranks in Local Leader and 7+ charisma. But settlements bring in a steady income of caps if you've got shops built. Speaking of shops, they'll typically have some good shit for you, lots of caps to trade with, and a lot of junk material useful for building new shit. Primarily though it's just for fun. If you don't like building settlements you don't have to.
>>316583819
Can confirm. I've played MGSV (80 hours), Witcher 3 (70~ hours) and Fallout 4 (30 hours) and Bloodborne (can't remember but a long time anyway) so far
Fallout 4 > Bloodborne > MGSV > Witcher 3
8/10, they need to patch the texture streaming
>>316584197
here you go, for your'e (you) :)
>>316584197
>fo4 better than nv
>>316584307
>only fags who can prove they have played MGSV, Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Bloodsouls
>all of them have Witcher 3 last or second last
Fucking knew it
>>316584329
It's much more fun, and that is what I play games for you know, fun.
>>316584328
Isn't baiting, I was born in 94 ofcourse I havent fucking played fallout 1-2
>>316583789
danm sicko fucko, if you like that kind of stuff keep it to yourself, I don't need to see it.
>>316584286
Nope sorry. Most of the areas in FO4 are just enemy encampments. Lots of which lack any reason to explore. Big areas of the FO4 map are empty.
>>316584306
Cheers.
I'm not your lad, buddy.
>>316584307
WITCHERSHILLS BTFO
>>316584307
do you not understand how less than and greater than work?
let me help you
fallout 4 < bloodborne < mgsv < witcher 3
Which Special boosts energy weapon damage and do energy weapons come under "Non-automatic"
>>316581953
Same but because of settlement building done right in survival games I can build a city but it will stand empty in Fallout 4 I can have some actual people living with me
>>316583993
Gentleman, behold our future and weep for this is our next generation of humans.
>>316582374
I didn't even know you could tell people to get inside power armor
>>316584504
Sorry bro, Witcher 3 had a good story but making it open-world was a mistake, fucking giant world with nothing at all to explore.
>>316584523
those actual people are npcs in a fucking bethesda game, the worst fucking developer
>>316582374
so Fallout 4 is a horror game?
>>316584504
>Witcherkek mad over being BTFO by the only person who has proven he has played all 4 games
>>316584568
>fucking giant world with nothing at all to explore.
We played different games then. W3 isn't even my GOTY but exploring was the one thing I spent most of my time doing.
>>316581249
Buggy pile of shit.
Best game Bethesda has ever made.
Not GOTY.
>>316584594
joke's on you, I haven't played any of those games
>>316584504
Nah, Witcher 3s gameplay was fucking boring and its open world was literal Ubisoft tier. From a gameplay standpoint MGSV,Bloodborne and Fallout 4 shat on it in my opinion
>mfw i torrented it but still haven't bothered installing it
who else tired gamer here?
>>316584676
fo4 has the ugliest fucking art style, what the fuck were they thinking
it looks like fucking fable with 0 the charm
>>316584306
How do you collect caps from shops? I've built a few in some settlements, but they don't seem to do much other than let me offload shit I can't scrap
>>316584636
Alright, what did you explore and what did you find?
Because you could not find better armor, you could not find better weapons then the witcher sets you could craft.
If there was anything to find it would be marked on your map and in a village.
>>316584764
They show up in your workbench.
Out of the "big 4" this year this game has the longest list of complaints by far. Ranging from Mechanics and development choices to Graphical faults and lore changes.
Bloodborne = TW3 > MGSV >> Fallout 4
>>316584757
Yea, visually the game is inconsistent as fuck. It goes from being real fucking pretty (rad storms etc) to mediocre to flat out ugly.
Still a fun as fuck game tho
>>316582751
How horrifying.
>>316584286
>FO3
>good atmosphere
where did this meme even come from
>NV is empty
and this meme, I see these memes posted word for word all the time and always in the same post.
What gives?
>>316584870
>not even parallax bump on those grates
3dpd
>>316584860
Screencap evidence that you've played FO4 and MGSV.
So far we've had one anon who confirmed he played all 4 games who had Witcher 3 last (see: >>316584307)
Can you prove me wrong?
>>316583993
Nice pasta buddy
>what did I explore
Loaded question. I guess I can answer as the areas off the main track or everything?
>what did I find
Items, some gear and lore items. Exploring isn't always about looking for upgrades.
>>316583810
>but it's kinda small and not as deep or cohesive as New Vegas
I'd disagree with you here, the world is far better than the Mojave in NV, Obsidian just can't into world building. The map seems a bit small, true, but there is also a lot more verticality compared to previous 3d fallouts.
>>316584889
NV had a very boring world honestly
>>316584307
wow you played all of them and you have [opinion]?
that must mean [opinion] is objectively right.
>>316584307
Witcherfags on suicide watch
>>316581249
Meh.
Not as good as NV, but still OK.
Will get better once more mods and expansions come out.
Same old Bethesda game/s.
Getting stale for me anyways.
>>316584810
Thanks
>>316583124
And then you go to loot their body
>only 1 grenade in his stash
>>316584769
>>316584921
Not sure why you care so much. You might also find this surprising but people have different tastes.In the process of playing through TW3 again, that save of FO4 is one of 3 characters though wasn't really bothered showing all of them.
>>316583993
This, but I will fully recognize that as fun as the game is, it's much more of a FPS with RPG elements than F3 was just by the nature of how they simplified the dialogue
It's a good game, but acting like the dialogue wheel isn't a legitimate flaw is silly
>>316585310
whoops one of the quotes is to the wrong person, disregard that.
tl;dr Fallout 4 is surprisingly fun despite the almost constant bugs, engine limitations, questionable mechanical design, awful UI, bad framerate, cringy story, and ugly visual design.
>navigating menus with a mouse that has a halfsecond of input lag makes doing basic things like switching inventory items a total chore.
>enemies are either flitting camouflaged critters with no obvious hitbox that flit around and charge straight for you in combat or are hitpoint-sack humans who can take 5 laser beams to the face and constantly plink your health with aim-bot perfection.
>framerate tanks into the 20s sometimes leaving combat entirely in the hands of VATS or else I waste tons of ammo trying to uselessly shoot impossible targets
>constantly full of inventory cause of vacuuming up garbage everywhere fro crafting
>perk sheet is a confusing clusterfuck of pointless animated icons instead of a concise list and so understanding the basic requirements of how to do things is an unnecessary challenge
>basebuilding minigame is utterly ridiculous afterthought. I chose to completely ignore what amounts to a minecraft decorative mode. Even if I wanted to the UI for building the modular pieces is absolutely awful.
>story and characters are trying to be both melodramatic and serious and also wacky and zany and so the whole thing seems amateurish and eye-rollingly corny. Most of the characters are unlikeable and the voiced dialogue is hammy immersion-breaking.
Despite all this, I've actually played it for about 20 hours or so, mostly for the openworld exploring. There's moments of genuine discovery and thrill of combat, especially once you get into a rhythm of exploring, combat, scavenging, return to base, crafting, improvement. I just think about how much better it would be if the game weren't constantly suffering from the above myriad of unintended behavioral bugs, shoddy UI design, poor graphical performance, and not having a cornball story rammed down your throat.
>>316585310
>no thread in background
:^)
>>316585310
why are you playing TW3 on steam when you have it on GOG?
My old crappy PC can't handle FO4. It could handle Witcher 3 on medium. FO4 runs smoothly and then it goes into hissy fit <10 FPS at random which is unplayable when in fight.
Power armour is pretty fucking sweet, it definitely feels like you have more of a prescence with it than in F3/NV - only problem is enemies still have no self-preservation so I had a raider run at me with a fucking poolstick. I know he was probably fucked up on drugs but I'm like a walking robot so he should of shit himself and ran away.
>>316581249
It's okay, New Vegas is better
the game kinda makes you take the Rad reduction perks because lots of shit gives Rads
>>316584398
I'm 2 years younger and FO1 is one of my favourite games evergit gud
>We live in an age where Fallout is more dudebro normie game than Halo or CoD
Just let this sink for a moment
>>316585708
>19 year olds on 4chan
>trying this hard to fit in
It's actually pretty fun so far, I came in with exceptionally low expectations but I'm enjoying it a lot.
It's better than skyrim and fallout 3 by far, but not even close to new vegas.
>>316584216
Tactics take some time to enjoy, I had to try about 5 times until I managed to go through the first mission without having my shit fuck up and like the game.
>>316585545
Wasn't aware we were moving goalposts
>all these hardcore companions like Cait, Danse, and Nick
>make them farm and sleep in sleeping bags in a broken down shack while I live in a fortress next to them
I am the king of this wasteland and it would behoove you not to forget this.
To get rid of the low FPS/stuttering garbage, do I set PresentInterval to 0, play in borderless, change Nvidia v-sync to adaptive, or a combination of the 3?
Pretty good. Built a badass fortress at the gas station.
>>316585874
If he said his favorite was 3, 4, or even NV you would have called him an underage retard, but since he said FO1 he's just trying to fit in. Most smart people have no problem playing old games.
>>316585765
>Bethdrones on damage control
The game is literally a Borderlands/Far Cry mix with hints of Fallout to bait fans of New Vegas into buying it.
>>316585551
I was gifted it.
>>316585930
turn off godrays completely in the ini, use the fps boost fix from FO3/NV and set shadows to medium instead of low or high
T-thanks Todd
>>316581249
It's more fun once you get the "fixed survival"-mod for it, changes the game into Ranger mode, you and enemies alike takes more damage. So it is basically just as hard, you will still get one-shotted by certain enemies, but you won't have to spend as much time fighting them.
Finished it in 33 hours it was alright but the ending was underwhelming, it just felt like a redo of fallout 3
>>316586039
not him but thanks senpai. Gonna try it.
>>316581249
>find the children of atom base
>they all shoot you on site
>raider base
>they all shoot you on site
>gunner base
>they all shoot you on site
Why even have different factions if they're all the same? You can't fucking interact with any of them
>>316585980
>he
>smart people
>samefagging this hard
>>316585874
>>316585980
Well yeah, admitting my age is a shot in the knee pretty much no matter what I say, I just wanted to prove that faggot wrong
>>316585916
>only evidence of Witcher 3
>not showing evidence of Fallout 4 with thread in background
:^)
>>316583243
No he's talking shit.
The difference between survival and hard difficulty, excluding the slow health rate, is that survival makes you take more damage and deal less than on hard.
>>316585701
In fallout 4 fucking ghouls give you rads by hitting you, and the water is so goddamn radioactive you take a swim only to get cancer
>>316585646
>charge into a slum wearing full D-class power armor with a chaingun
>mow down 4 raider thugs before they even know I'm there
>switch to serrated sword to carve a few more into chunks like a 40k space marine
>one last raider stands in my way
>Never should of come here!
>>316586205
>2 different people who share the same viewpoint must be the same person
keep posting meme images though friend
>>316585726
I'll give you Halo, but not CoD.
>>316586348
>inb4 the 19 year old replies 1 minute after your post
I'm really enjoying this game so far
>Fallout isn't a RPG anymore
>Fallout is a FPS game now
Literally *who* cares?
I'd say good riddance. I don't have time for RPG slogfests like past entries in this franchise (3's start was tiring and New Vega's first hours were downright boring). After a tiring day of work, all I want to do is relax and play something easy and fast for 2 hours or so before going to bed, and that's what Bethesda gave me, a simple, satisfying and RPG bullshit free where I can either play for 10 minutes or 2 hours and still feel satisfied.
All these assholes Metacritic bombing and posting negative reviews are all unproductive manchildren who can't accept that their *game* (as if RPG spreadsheet simulators count as this) isn't the same anymore. Thank Jesus it isn't, and I can't thank Bethesda enough for giving me a chance to enjoy this franchise as well, I even pre-ordered the DLCs and can't wait to play them.
Deal with it guys, times have changed.
>>316586039
Is this the boost fix you were talking about?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34778/?
So in the beginning of the game when you have to get to the vault, can you explore or do you lose a game if you're too slow?
>someone says TW3 is last with proof
>people jump on that with reaction pictures
>someone says TW3 is first with proof
>nothing
I wonder what shills are in this thread.
>>316586502
>2 seconds in paint
>inspect element
:^P
>>316586710
sure believe what you want
>>316586625
>with proof
See:
>>316585916
>>316586281
Dude only proved (with thread in background) that he played Witcher 3, not Fallout 4.
Only dude who provided adequate evidence was >>316584307
>>316586512
protip: if you decide to do the basebuilding, rope off an entire area with metal walls except for one entrance and put 3-4 turrets in front of it.
Raider raids are rare, but having turrets negates any damage they can do. Also any of the minuteman quests are infinite, so be aware that if you do them you're not doing anything other than expanding your list of bases and leveling up. The Gun Nut perk is worth it.
>>316584504
Fallout 4 > shit > all other 2015 titles combined, there fixed for you.
>>316586849
fuck off todd
>>316586849
you are too young to be browsing 4chan
>Open door
>Game crashes
Same as always with Bethesda
>>316586906
Toddlers BTFO
>>316586906
God damn it, covered everything but my account name.
>>316586920
Please do note that I was merely comparing to 2015 titles, and if you really think one of those is barely better than shit ive got bad news for you...
You know what's genuinely impressive?
Bethesda actually managed to create a dialogue system that flows naturally in and out of game play, and actually engages multiple actors in a scene without freezing time. The four direction dialogue is rather lame, but I can't help but feel like there is huge potential there in, for a more in depth branching conversation path system.
>>316587267
not him, but loads of 2015 games are better than fallout 4despite it being a decent game
>>316587267
Kill yourself
are there still separate zones?
are there still mobs that fight you between zone transitions? that shit was pretty gay in fallout3. but typical of bethesda's incompetence.
>>316586537
What I mean is, is there any sort of timer for when you're running from your house to the Vault or are you free to walk around?
Sold 12 million units on day one
So /we Halo now/
>>316582742
It would taste like regular cola
If you're not one of those faggots who think Pepsi and Coca Cola taste different
>>316587273
nah, mandatory dialogs can bugged out if you disable dialog camera. cant run away from them to for example: put on your hat for extra charisma.
>gamezone.com/news/fallout-4-will-not-have-load-times-3420775
I love the absence of loading times on fallout 4!
>>316587425
What do you mean? Like how central DC was basically walled off by rubble and you needed to use subways to get in?
Eh, it's a lot more open than that. Area transitions are much more like Skyrim than anything else.
>>316586778
So?
>>316587512
No it didn't. It shipped 12 million units. Big difference. Still, I would be surprised if this game after some time don't surpass Skyrim and its 20 million.
Is the earliest you can get an energy weapon the musket?
>>316587678
to be fair I read up the original source and they kind of extrapolated a vague thing he said in a single interview about how the large areas won't be like FO3, you won't need load screens for every single door.
I will admit it's a fucking hilarious headline considering how the game turned out though.
Has anyone, ANYONE, asked the faggots at bethesda why they blatantly lied about no load times?
>Get the Laser rifle from BoS guy
>Every other gun seems underpowered
>>316582742
i got one. It's just rebranded berry lemonade.
A bit off topic here, but does anybody know if there are any intelligent ghouls in fallout 4?
Can someone please tell me if your character customization changes your baby's appearance?
>>316582374
Fuck. I jumped.
>>316587812
At least the loading times aren't bad. I don't know how Bethesda managed to get better loading times than bloody MGSV.
>>316587813
They never said there would be absolutely no loading times. They said there would be houses as the one in the trailer that you could walk right into without needing any loading times.
>>316587813
because it wasn't blatant.
I know because I was going to make an epic meme image with Todd's face and that quote, but when I actually looked up the quote it's kind of muddled.
>Can you tell us how big the map's going to be?
>"I avoid answering that, and I'll tell you why. If you look at our previous stuff, it's kind of like that. We don't actually measure it like that. Because Skyrim is one size, but the mountains take up a lot of space. That's not really a game place, it's in your way, you have to go around it, so we're not really doing that. In the city, it's very dense, but there is no load - like in Fallout 3, there's a load - for areas of the city, we don't do that. So it's very dense, the buildings are tall, and a lot of them are open, so you can just walk in and around, so... it's big. I wouldn't say, you know, if you played Skyrim, I couldn't tell you it's X bigger, so we're just saying it's about the same size."
>>316587930
It doesn't seem to. I went through it at least 5 times.
On that noterate my waifu
>>316587930
Nope it doesn't.
I started it, saw the the bugs and got back to skyrim which with mods is more pretty and run better.
Will wait a few months to see if things gets ironed out.
>>316587812
Anon, save your time by not answering to my shitposts, now I feel bad about wasting your time. ;_;
>>316587971
>At least the loading times aren't bad.
I hope you're joking.
The load times are unbearable unless you're using an SSD, I had to reinstall because of this.
I also run MGSV off a HDD, FO4 is worse by far.
>>316588054
I only have long loading times when i first start the game and load a save. Its fine after that
>>316587912
Nah, they're all retarded.
> Hey let's trap myself in a bunker for 200 years, why bother with a way to come out from it?
> Yea that's right, I've been stuck in that fridge for 200 years
> That's correct, I'm such a DUDE DRUGS LMAO that I used an experimental drug based on the FEV that ghoulified me, and I still think it's worth it since it was the best rush I've ever heard.
>>316588106
I had 30 second load screens just when fast travelling on a 7200rpm HDD.
switched to my SSD and nothing takes more than 4 now.
>>316587930
It does. Someone posted their dad and he got a huge fucking kikenose while mine don't. Also, watch the eye-colour.
>>316587912
There are plenty, although I haven't found a ghoul companion yet.
>>316586516
underrated post.
and a handful of extra conversation options locked behind having a minimum of X stat, isn't some groundbreaking idea or amazing feature.
>>316588054
Even if they're unbearable for you, they're still quicker than in MGSV.
>>316588000
>8/10
Would settle down to quiet farming life with
>>316585464
I think the game taps into that "Carrot on a stick" mentality that people have
Doesn't make it good or right, but its there and we must get that fucking carrot on that fucking stick like our lives depended on it
>Found an arm piece that makes me turn invisible when I crouch
>VATS tire iron, store criticals with luck, can build up a crit on a legendary fuck in survival mode with the tire iron and then switch to my double crit damage machete and effectively 2 shot them.
>Go up some random ass building deep in the city
>Find a flawless power armour guarded by literal hell robots
Rate my shit also
>>316588263
I didn't notice load times at all in MGSV though.
I mean choppers felt like they ate up way more time than they should, but that isn't quicker when you use a faster drive.
>>316588340
Where to get top and shit
Some questions for anons who have the game:
Are there "essential" NPCs that can't be killed and instead just go unconscious or whatever? I know the companions (or at least the dog) is essential, but in general, are essential NPCs a rarity or are they very common? One of my favorite features of New Vegas was the fluidity and that the game allowed you to kill anyone and would adapt to your actions. Really annoys me about the "essential" characters in Bethesda games.
Also wondering how do NPCs react to crimes? Say you hit someone, do just those who witnessed it become hostile? Do they attack or run away? Is there a forgiveness system in place or will those NPCs always be hostile?
Also, how is the quest structure? Is it more layered and open-ended like New Vegas, with a lot of variety and ways to go about the quests?
>>316588403
Play on survival mode and just run through the landscape
You'll get legendary mobs ganking you in no time. They drop the fun stuff. Be prepared for hell intitially though.
>>316587849
But anon, you earned it by doing a difficult quest where you followed him around and watched him kill everything for you.
>>316588474
Yes to the first one, no to the last one
RELEASE THE FUCKING MODTOOLS ALREADY
I only want a mod that le s me kill essential people seriously screw the meusium of liberty people
>>316588340
what fucking armour is that please
>>316586516
I can't help that the RPG aspect of it moved away from player stats and into more of an equipment based. Balancing weight vs damage/protection, damage vs recoil, range, etc.
Which could have worked out great if they had actually scaled back carry weight appreciably, but since you can still lug around an entire junkyard on your back, it's just kind of an upgrade system instead of any kind of balancing act.
>>316588474
>Are there "essential" NPCs
Yes a good % are essential
>Also wondering how do NPCs react to crimes?
NPCs don't react to gunfire near them but will just turn hostile if you hit one in the same "faction" as it.
Also, how is the quest structure?
>trash it's go here kill x find x talk to x
>>316583937
>not NV
this meme is a meme
It's fucking shitty. Betheshit coding requires certain GPU users to roll their drivers back in order to launch the fucking game.
Alright folks I've got
Witcher 3: 120 hours played
MGS V: 70 hours played
Fallout 4: 18 hours played
and that is also how good I feel the games are, MGS V probably deserves a dozen hours less playtime.
GOD DAMN THESE CHOICES ARE SO HARD. FUCKKKKKK
>>316582751
I've seen this before.
>>316584889
in NV you can replay the game 20 times and find npcs on the SAME FUCKING PLACE every time, there is only a few enemies that actually roam around and even they have tiny patrol areas, so if you play the game enough times you could as well play blindfolded.
In 3 there are a few more "randomness" into it (not much, but atleast every now and then something weird or crazy is going to happen making exploring actually fun)
>>316588895
Anyone who enjoyed the witcher 3 has shit taste so thanks for letting us know to ignore your opinion.
And even doing everything and 100%ing the game, Witcher 3 only took me 60 hours. Not sure what the fuck you were doing that long.
Bethshills aren't even being subtle any more.
>>316586083
>t-thanks consoles
fix'd for you
>>316588340
what is that rusty piece of crap behind you man?
>>316589339
As a Fallout game
>pretty bleh
As a STALKER spinoff game?
Yes please.
>>316589413
Eh hate the look of the X.
>>316589657
pleb
>>316589413
That's a pretty big dick dock she has there
>>316589339
Going to need proof you've actually played the game. Thread in background, timestamp and everything. Don't you fucking spread your opinion of Fallout 4 without proof.
>>316588930
Because your belt buckle is infront of your dick right
>>316589752
are faggots really this desperate?
>>316581249
pretty much like fallout 3
>>316589718
thank you, you silly
>trying to take over fortress
>screen goes into a trippy black and white mode where everything blurs when you move
how the fuck do i fix this
So is the game just Fallout 3: Enhanced Edition or are there significant improvements to the game play?
>tfw I was optimistic about voiced protag
Christ. I knew the possibility of it being bad, but I never figured it would drag the game down that much. It was so exhausting trying to decrypt that dialogue wheel, but also to bear with the constant 180° personality turns. One moment I would be a complete asshole, then another I would sound so sincere and caring. Everything was just so fucking inconsistent.
Why is it so difficult to roleplay as an asshole in this game? The mc is such a pussy.
>>316581283
Yeah found out that creating a wall around your settlement with 1 entrance doesn't work. They still spawn inside...
>>316590312
Significant downgrades
>>316590312
it's far better in nearly every way, especially the shooting
>>316590312
Gameplay is 300% improved, there's far less menus, crafting is fun if a little overwhelming, gunplay is very satisfying and fluid. Roleplaying is weaker but overall I think it's the most fun fallout
>>316581249
The fact that all the controls in this game were designed for consoles (gamepads in general) pretty much tells you the quality of the game.
they should´ve kept the PC controls from FO3/New Vegas. Im fighting against my natural instinct to press right click to drop items on the pipboy when i have to press R why would they even add a zoom function to the pipboy? Its not like this game has detail graphic-wise , I dont like the tabs on the pipboy either , and the "hold this key to activate something" cmon now.
>>316590312
Only gunplay and graphics wise.
Other gameplay elements is so and so, takes some away and gives some.
Everything else is a blatant downgrade, especially when it comes to RPG stuff.
its the very same bethesda game they vomit up every 7 years. It's not better or worse than 3. Its literally the same game with handful of tweaks. Sure, building system is pretty good, but dialogue tree is horrible. All in all it is really boring and you should see through this shit by now.
>>316590312
with all the meaningful interactions pulled out, or the feeling that you have any impact on the world or the characters around you other than what the game wants you to have, which is kill everything and loot everything.
The ui is completely fucked beyond belief and the dialogue wheel has destroyed any attempt to play a character that exactly what Beth wants you to be.
It's fun enough if you like fo3
>>316587486
Anyone?
>>316584689
I pirated it and played for like two hours.
The UI made me quit. Like, holy shit. I'm playing at 1080p and the mecha UI still covers like 30% of my screen. If you're not on the mecha it's not 30% but it's very ugly, and I hate how your inventory and things of the sort must be accessed with the "pipe boy", like holy shit that thing is awful.
>>316590723
pretty much this
but if you liked to dick around all the side stuff in fo3 you will like fo4 tho, some of the locations are pretty fun
>>316584398
My saw my younger brother playing NV and bought him 1 and 2, he likes them.
If a kid born in 01 can play an "ancient game" then so can you
Why aren't settlers produce any food or caps? I got them assigned to shops and harvesting but nothing gets deposited in workbench.
>The game was officially canceled when Titus decided to try and improve Interplay's console division. This led to a nearly completed Fallout 3 being canceled.
>start the game
>everythings fine and stable
>get near diamond city
>sudden lag and stutter so horrible it literally annihilated my FPS to nothing
>it happens only outdoors
>it happens every couple minutes
>disabling godrays and setting everything on lowest possible setting doesnt help
>literally unplayable
i wanted to at least play once through this shitty game so i can shitpost more efficiently but i guess it wasnt meant to be
pic related. me playing fallout and leaving any building.
>>316590312
I couldn't into FO3 for some reason.
Actually played FO3NV but didn't get far before nearly died of rigormortis.
I've put 24hrs into FO4 and a friend of mine is going on 56 survival mode while I'm on normal and still having fun.
Take what you want. You either do or don't. Don't listen to keks here. They're keks. Some of us have actually spent time playing a non-pirate version of this shit and like it.
>>316591128
>non pirate version
>like it
Im sorry you have to force yourself to "like" this game as a reason to justify 60 US of A Dollars spent.
>>316582374
Game of the Year.
>>316588519
>playing a stealth character
>get one shot off and kill a single synth
>he charges in and kills the rest
>later on end up frying him with the rocket
>"I've never seen someone so good. You really impressed me back there."
I didn't even do anything and even put your life in danger. I don't deserve this praise.
>>316591257
Did I say force? If I meant "force" I'd have fucking said force. But I didn't say "force" at all. You did. Don't be a fucking cock gobbler, faggot. Stop projecting and putting words into peoples mouths you fucking sperglord. Jesus christ. Who raised you. A fucking goat. God. Shut the fuck up. Bitch.
>>316591128
In other words, you're a CoD shooter type who didn't like Fallout until now.
It's a good thing every fucking game has to be CoD now.
Does the "sniper" perk count if I'm using a reflex sight?
Fucking christ. I can't wait for settlement mods. Getting this multi tiered shit built took me the better part of an hour just walking and turning ever so slightly to line shit up.
>>316591102
Van Buren is dead.
It's a shame Troika nor Black Isle never had a chance to do their magic on the series and at least release one game for it.
>>316591658
A Troika Fallout is my dream. It won't happen in this universe, but I hope the universe it did happen in appreciates what they got.
I picked this game up after recently beating the Witcher, and can't help but to compare the two. Literally every component of Fallout is worse.
Gameplay is boring and bland. The world is ugly and empty. The characters are uninteresting. The story is mediocre at best. The quests are linear and feel like chores to do. Worst of all the pacing of the game is so frustratingly slow, it's hard to stay intetested. The only fun I've had was fun I made for myself, making a fat dress- wearing black male with max strength, meleeing the fuck out of enemies.
All that said it's a decent Bethesda game, but that doesn't justify anything compared to what other developers have to offer. Any other developer would get shit on if their game was this buggy and bland, but it's ok since it's Bethesda.
Loving the early accessibility to a sniper rifle. That gun is such a godsend and a blessing. Using it in VATS is useless as hell though. Manual headshots are much better. Dat moment when a raider's head explodes when you land a perfect headshot.
>>316591747
>The world is ugly and empty
Alright, now this part is laughable because witchers world is so INCREDIBLY devoid of content.
You literally CAN NOT find better armor than the sets you can craft, if there is any quests to do you will have them marked on your minimap and they will be available on a board in a village.
Stop fucking memeing, witcher 3 suffered greatly from having an open world.
>>316590903
>and I hate how your inventory and things of the sort must be accessed with the "pipe boy", like holy shit that thing is awful.
Casuals in a nutshell.
>>316583290
teach me desu
>>316588223
>not having based Hancock from Goodneighbor
I posted this in a thread last night, but these are basically all of my criticisms of the game
The dialog wheel sucks.
The regular UI and the Power Armor UI are really ugly. Plus the new Pip-Boy UI looks worse than 3/NV's.
They tried to give the protagonist some kind of personality, backstory, and motivation, but he/she is just really boring.
A lot of the perks aren't that good and most of them are pretty boring
Shit like Local Leader is practically required for settlement stuff
The actual building stuff isn't that great
The gunplay is improved over the previous games, but it's nothing that special
Fucking pipe weapons everywhere.
Gathering materials for weapon modding or base building can be pretty tedious
Getting Power Armor, a Minigun, and fighting a Deathclaw as one of the earliest main story missions is just kind of dumb.
Removal of faction/town reputation
Removal of ammo crafting
Removal of ammo types
The Wasteland feels pretty similar to FO3's
The game in general feels pretty similar to FO3
And
>the legendary enemy has mutated!
Oh boy the enemy gets all of it's fucking health back. That isn't stupidly tedious at all, Bethesda
Can someone tell me if I need to scrap things by hand to get all the components.
I started by putting them in mt workshop, then heard you lose components that way, then people said that was wrong.
What's the truth.
>>316591905
You can't genuinely say the map in fallout has more to offer than the Witcher. It's significantly smaller, and the rate of coming upon side quests is about the same from what I've experienced.
In TW3, the world is more intricate, it's not painfully bland to walk around in, and it's just better. Not saying is perfect, not even close, but Fallout 4 is significantly worse
>>316592431
Nah, it's bullshit. Witcher 3's world was empty, desolate and unless you had a quest pointing you in that direction you had no incentitive to explore as you will not find new quests, and you can not find better gear.
>>316587573
>implying Pepsi and Coke taste the same
>>316582585
Is there any significant difference between hard mode and survival mode that i don't know?
>>316592535
>you had no incentitive to explore as you will not find new quests
I don't know about that. I stumbled across the cannibal murderers and didn't see a quest related to them.
That was cool, coming across a clear sign of how fucked things are.
Pirate coast was cool too.
>>316581461
Up to 30 hours and still loving it too. Not sure where all the hate is coming from.
It's weak, watered down, shit, boring, overly simplified, silly, asinine, runs like shit yet has ugly graphics
>>316583520
This is pretty dumb now that I think about it. 215 years later and they still haven't progressed past living in shacks and old bunkers?
>>316592785
>Not sure where all the hate is coming from.
For all the improvements and good points, like any bethesda game, they fucked up on some things.
They really should've made a Geralt like character instead of this half attempt at dialogue choice.
>YOU'RE A MUTT
"bit of a flea bag, aren't you?"
"come on, let's go"
soooooo i just met the BoS guy and joined up with him and i've done a few other quests too
my question is, when do the other characters start calling you by name? is it rare for it to happen?
Codsworth said Jonathan a couple of times when during the beginning but that's it....
I wish you could assign settlers to things via a menu rather than clunkily bumbling around your settlement trying to find a settler to farm food or shit
>>316593032
None do. Only Codsworth
>>316591857
vats really seems like a piece of shit in this game
So why is the Institute so bad aside from kidnapping people and making synths? I really want to side with the Brotherhood but the Institute's got some amazing shit going on. Do they want to kill everyone on the surface? Because if so that's entirely different.
>>316593089
6,000,000 lines of dialogue
>>316582374
>some asshole settler takes my power armor
>try to steal the power fusion
>everyone in my base goes hostile and tries to kill me
>reload
>kill him with a head sneak shoot
>can no longer get the suit so i have take off the parts and install them to a new suit
>move all my power armors to a empty base
>get attacked by super mutants
>one suicide bomber runs up and kills me
>get the saved reloaded to the part were i have to kill the settler again
i went full on trump and build a wall so only i can get accesses to my suits.
This game have shitty lazily designed quests that pretty much never gets better
-horrible writing,
-no actual player agency in outcomes,
-factions that only fucking exists in the form of more lazy quests and titles.
-linear as hell 'dungeons' even with the Skyrim style dungeon shortcut exit
-poor equipment variety that only relies on the mods to really differentiate.
-shallow as hell settlement build that ignores physics with settlers that may as well be automatons for how little they matter
-dumbed down as hell skill system with lazily designed perks that are either boring percentile increase (most of them) or no real thought in its balance
In otherwords, it is Bethesda trying to make a far cry/borderlands game using a rpg ip instead of fucking creating a new series
>>316593210
They kidnapped Shawn and killed your wife.
>>316581249
It's a Bethesda game, if you liked their later installments you will like this, its not rocket science
It's actually pretty alright.
>>316583428
>they use caps as currency
>>316593315
your life must be so fucking miserable
>>316593308
I really don't get this mechanic of not being able to take the frame if you kill the dude who used it.
Where do i find all the furniture saved? I cant find it anywhere...
So whens Fallout: New (insert city name here) coming out?
>>316593351
So... is that it? I mean, that is some motivation. I feel like they made the Institute too good.
>>316593430
Your check has been deposited to your account fellow 4chan poster.
>railroad literally uses the thieves guild symbols system from skyrim
>>316586307
in fallout 3 and new vegas glowing ghouls gave you radiation being close to them or being hit.
Water was also equally radioactive that everyone stayed clear of it.
>>316591128
>paying more than 20 dollars for a modern bethesda game
guess i should have gotten fallout 4™ just like everyone else
but seriously lmao
it made SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY million dollars. obsididrones are furious because it's the new GTA and made only slightly less than GTA V!
>>316593430
No but the game is.
The skeletons are the skeleton model from Skyrim and it looks really fucking weird and stupid, like everyone has this monster skeleton.
>>316593461
that's fucking dumb. there cant be that many suits in the game and you cant make them either.
>>316592542
desu diet MTdew tastes just like regular coke
>>316593468
you don't have to, when you select the same piece from the menu you don't use materials
Giving up on it for now. Just hammered out the main story quests. Hopefully modders will turn it into a decent game.
It boggles my mind how this game still has all the exact same design issues as every Bethesda game before it. That, combined with the general over-simplification of the game has put me off. I dread to think what TES6 is going to be like.
Anyone here using the pipboy app?
Is it useful? Can I select weapons midfight?
>>316593838
You can buy them from certain weapons and armor vendors. They sell the frame and the frame alone. I don't know what happens when you buy it, but I've seen the option.
>>316593478
obsidian is dead
>>316594028
If fo4 is anything to go by it will be fun
>>316594028
one thing that bothers me is that at least skyrim had a decent world in terms of aesthetics
>>316594138
that's good to know. i was mad as fuck when that settler took my main suit.
>>316582957
with a whiney voice all the time unfortunately.
>>316586778
Oh fuck, he's played all of them? That must mean his opinion is right and would be the exact opinion I would have!
>>316594143
Hardly, they recently announced that they wanted to work on a Vampire the Masquerade game when Paradox bought the rights. Which actually poses an interesting dilemma. Do I want an Obsidian Fallout or an Obsidian Vampire more?
Far from perfect but good fun if you're looking for a game to immerse yourself in for a while, would recommend.
Basically what this guy says >>316581330
>Arrive at Kellogg's hideout
Alright, this guy is just a merc, he's clearly not the one responsible for this, and he's willing to talk. My character isn't particularly vengeful or prone to anger, he's more of a casual jokester who want to do some right in the world, so I'll try to approach this diplomatically. Let's see what the speech options are.
>FUCK YOU
>END OF RINE MOTHERFUCKER
>Where's Shaun?
That last one sounds about right, I just want to know where my son is right now.
>"LISTEN UP YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME RIGHT NOW WHERE MY SON IS OR I'LL TEAR OUT YOUR GUTS RIGHT HERE"
Great, there's no way out of fighting this guy. I'll just pick sarcastic to make a lighthearted joke before killing him, that's the closest I'll get to fitting my character.
>"I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL I DIE SO I CAN GO TO HELL AND KILL YOU ALL OVER AGAIN"
I fucking hate how right you guys were about the dialogue wheel.
>>316591573
holy shit anon, your armor looks cool
where'd you get it from?
It's shitty, but fun. Like every Bethesda game.
>>316581249
Can barely play. My PC is too bad. I have to set it to low on everything and lowest resolution, and it KINDA works, but every 3-4 minutes I get severe framedrops south of 0.5 FPS. Pretty much unplayable.
But what I played so far wasn't too exciting. It was very uninspired, felt like it wasn't well thought out, the voiced protagonist is kinda annoying but not as much as I would've thought.
So far every character I've met has been supremely uninteresting. It feels so stripped down that the added features feel like cheap consolation prizes.
Every time I got a level up I was like "Oh yeah!". Then I went to the perk screen, sat there for 5 minutes looking at the perks, thought that they all sound super boring, just picked any one of them and without fail, went "oh, that's it? That's all I got for leveling up?"
The new armor system is okay in theory, but the inventory screen/pipboy thing is a mess. Looks bad, controls weird, I feel like I don't get as much info as I got in FNV.
And it pisses me off when I see an article praising Fallout 4 for being a game that "really challenges players in a way barely any other game ever does" and shit, because goddamn it is so fucking shallow. And that's okay, but people should treat it as exactly that, a nice shallow timesink. Not the smartest, deepest game of the year or whatever.
>>316594734
Post specs please
>>316590547
Man, you are saying it is fun for the gunplay... but Fallout is supposed to be an rpg. It just sucks that roleplaying is going to be gone in favor of voice acting and and 3rd person shooter for casual crowd.
>>316594510
Holy shit I thought I might be able to have an actual conversation with him too and every option was basically RIP AND TEAR.
Like goddamn nigga this game makes me wanna play New Vegas again but I just played it like a year ago.
>>316594510
>that fucking absurd quest where the keked guy approaches you in diamond city
>follow him to the alpha bar guy
>can't give enough of a shit, don't want to kill anyone
>CALM DOWN
>"ayo senpai imma bust a hole thru yo face"
>>316594784
roleplaying is for autists anyway
Game was made for consoles and the people who play on consoles. Disregarding this in the running for my personal GOTY. It's Borderlands with the Fallout title on it and actually worse writing.
Hail to the king, baby
>>316594510
I didn't mind that much only because he was talking shit the entire time and I wanted his gun+outfit anyways.
>>316594384
A Troika fallout would have been a million times better
>>316591434
Honestly this is what I'm hearing from everyone who likes it
>Roleplaying is basically non-existant
>BUT SHOOTING STUFF IS FUN
I wouldn't buy fallout if I wanted a shooter. The series is dead I'm guessing with how much money this game made
>>316594510
It's even worse when you meet Shaun.
>SUPPORT SHAUN
"You got my wife killed you little fucking brat. I should've glassed you when I had the chance."
>HATE SHAUN
"I've been worried sick about you Shaun. I've hated every moment since I saw you were taken."
>SHAUN?
"Hey, my son has the same name as you. Do you know where he is?"
>SARCASTIC
"If I'd known you'd turn out like this, I wouldn't have bothered finding you."
>check my inventory
>somehow got 15 fusion cores when I wasn't looking
What the fuck. I don't even use power armor that much
>>316594772
It's not that I'm surprised. I know that I have a complete toaster of a PC, but so far I could always play any game I wanted if I just put the settings low enough. MGSV ran completely fine, for example.
>>316594384
A Troika fallout would have been interesting.
>>316594191
I actually like Fallout 4's aesthetics at some points. I just wish the game was optimized.
>>316595034
I don't remember these options at all, and I just did the meeting last night.
>>316595117
did you pre-order?
>children of atom, gunners, raiders, triggermen all shoot you on sight, can't interact with factions in any meaningful way
>NO RANDOM ENCOUNTERS BESIDES THE UFO
>interesting scripted sequences are impossible to participate in, cant watch the robot race, cant watch the cage fight, the minute people see you they shoot you on sight
Fuck this fucking retarded game
>>316595331
>no random encounters besides the ufo
That's wrong though.
>>316595331
>b-buuuut moooooom I want to roleplay!!!!
fuck outta here autist, no one likes that shit and thats why no one caters to you autists
>>316595331
>cant watch the robot race, cant watch the cage fight
This was fucking infuriating
I want to join the fucking gunners but you can't even talk to them
>>316595331
You do know random encounters are more than special shit that happens once right?
>>316595331
>interesting scripted sequences are impossible to participate in, cant watch the robot race, cant watch the cage fight, the minute people see you they shoot you on sight
Oh, I thought that was because I was being a moralfag.
I'd hoped that was a fighting pit you could participate in. That's what the trailer made it seem like.
>>316595331
nobody gives a shit about any of this, the game is a fucking blast
Literally who cares about the fucking raiders or children of atom??? Who even are they? Blow their brains out like everyone else
>>316595094
If you have like a 5870 turn off godrays in the inis (Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini, bNvGodraysEnable=0). Make them read only so they don't reset.
Also, make a profile for the game in CCC and override the application's tessellation settings and either turn off tessellation or limit it to 16x. The game has Crysis 2 levels of unnecessary tessellation.
Finally run the game windowed borderless.
>>316595102
too much grey, can't play for more than a couple of hours because it gets on my nerves, it's really depressing and bland, seeing a bunch of dead trees and random junk everywhere doesn't inspire me to explore
>>316595331
>dressed as a raider
>no one knows me cause I'm not the danganborn
>still shoot me on sight
>>316595460
Bait. What do you think the R stands for.
>mfw THEY FOUND OUT
>>316595610
I will check that out, thanks mate.
>>316595331
>children of atom, gunners, raiders, triggermen all shoot you on sight, can't interact with factions in any meaningful way
literally who cares. The game gives you plenty of interesting factions to interact with. Nobody gives a shit about the fucking gunners, or a bunch of strung out drug head raiders
>>316595784
>literally who cares
Can't hear you over how much shit you like to eat.
>>316591128
shit your friend is a nigger
give me his steam so i can watch him
>>316595626
>too much grey
At this point you're just making up reasons to hate it since it's more colorful than any other fallout game.
>>316582374
I wish I would some fun glitches like that. I just run into annoying and boring shit like NPCs getting stuck in walls or going the wrong way during quests.
>>316595589
>>>/facebook/
>>>r/gaming
Just finished the BoS ending. The amount of corner-cutting really became obvious torwards the end. I had already befriended the Rail Road, so I expected there to be some kind of confrontation, maybe I could warn them or negotiate. Instead everyone was immediately hostile and I could only kill them.
Quests bugged out several times, had to manually setStage at least twice. Gonna do another completely new run with laser weapons now. Anyone know where I can get some early on (besides the musket)?
>>316594608
From random assholes. It's the gray variant of the BoS jumpsuit with combat armor and heavy combat armor over it.
>>316581982
Shame they spawn inside, really makes defenses seem pointless.
>>316587573
but they do taste different. Coke is more carbonated and less sweet while Pepsi is flat and tastes sweeter. Also Coke is much superior.
>no ending recap about all the followers and factions, random quests and events and what happened to them afterwards
Jesus Christ, Bethesda. Just give Fallout 5 to Obsidian please...
This is my first Fallout and it's probably better than the old shitty ones.
How many quests are there in 4?
>>316583993
>Bethesdrones are LITERALLY defending this.
They just took shit out and you're telling people to stop "living in the past" lmao.
>>316595589
>Who even are they?
GET OUT!!
>>316588054
>reinstall
just move the files faggot
>>316593601
some armor parts I see are straight ported from Skyrim, too, specifically from the thief armor, the bracers and pauldrons and maybe more
>>316595857
Not him but factions like that exist in every fallout game, the best you'd get is a terminal describing them.
>>316583993
go back to your safespace where everything is good and no criticism allowed
It's garbage, it's essentially Bethesda's way of saying "FUCK YOU, we'll make yet another shitty game and get overwhelming industry praise no matter how bad it is, what are you gonna do about it? All the normies already bought it because le wacky 1950s nuke boy commercial."
>>316596412
oh, how wrong you are
>>316595460
>Nobody roleplays in ROLE playing games
>itt: people baiting with obvious reddit/normalfag stuff and then responding to their own posts
>>316582374
>This is my armor, It was made for me!
I have some problems with the game like shitty dialogue, the dialogue system itself, holstered guns just disappear, not enough building options, and the removal of durability on weapons. But I'm enjoying the game still while patiently waiting for the GECK release.
Is there an Nvidia GPU under £50 that'll let me play it?
Is there a list of all the places you can build?
Want to find a nice empty place to make my fantasy town
>>316595658
LAY THAT PISTOL DOWN
>>316596283
Why? So they can get underwhelming reviews again? Obsidian made the lowest ranking of the modern fallout games both sales wise and reviews wise. Absolutely no reason to take a risk with obsidian again, best to keep it in house to keep the quality up.
>>316593943
And i dont have to pay anything? Was too hard to explain this in the game?? God
so progressive
All I can say is I'm glad I didn't spend money on it.
>>316587090
Hello mug.
>>316581249
Im having fun
>>316598625
Yo.
>>316598291
>STILL being a homophobe
grow up
>>316598972
That robot is a woman dumbass
>>316598972
It's the current year grow up people
>>316598017
sales, not quality
though if they'd market and shill an obsidian release as hard as they do their own, we could have quality with a large sales volume
>>316598291
>that guy can marry a robutt
>you can't
WHAT THE FUCK BETHESDA
>>316581249
pretty fun.
they improved the gunplay quite a bit. it now feels as competent as a 2010 game, which is still progress. the weapon mod system is pretty good
on the other hand, it's still the same engine/textures/modeling as ever, just in native 1080
>looks shittier and preforms worse than skyrim
BRAVO TODD
>>316598291
>not romancing the dog
>>316599541
>gunplay
the only part people give them credit for with FO4 and Bethesda weren't the ones responsible for developing and improving it
how shit are they
Don't know. I was too stupid to think of min specs before buying it so now I'm sitting here with a wasted $90. Guess it's time to drop a couple grand and finally upgrade.
>>316599937
> Bethesda weren't the ones responsible for developing and improving it
what do you mean? did they outsource it or something?
>>316600503
yup, to id software
>>316600503
i think they outsourced it to id, i don't remember the exact details
>>316600582
>>316600567
According to an article they didn't outsource it they just called in id for advice on gunplay.
https://www.vg247.com/2015/09/16/fallout-4-id-software-gunplay/
>>316581249
I awasm enjoying it. Even though I got a bug where I can't fast travel anymore. The only way into my base is fast travel or noclipping
>>316591126
Exact same thing happens to me. The game will randomly jump between working perfectly and constantly 10 second long freezes. Changing my settings around does nothing.
I'm supposed to follow my dog to the guy that took my son but it got stuck behind a lamp-post and mailbox in the middle of diamond city and won't go anywhere and the quest won't provide me with any additional markers. So I guess I'm going to have to look up a guide to see where I was supposed to go and also make do without a dog for the rest of the game.
But I can't be bothered. I pirated it as a try before you buy and I think I'm past the point where I just delete the game and forget about it.
>>316601154
use the console to remove the objects then
Why did Bethesda make the Gunners instead of just re-using the Talon Company?
Those guys were criminally underused in 3 and should have been the major enemy force.
>>316601325
Why is there name so goddamned uninspired at that? The Gun Runners is one thing, but the Gunners? Really?
: This is the best RPG ever made. A complete tale. All quests main and optional mesh together as best as possible with today's technology. Anyone negatively reviewing this have never played the fallout series at all. This is literally fallout 3 with more detail a graphics overhaul and better main quest/side quest mesh. This isn't a revolution in gaming but it is an amazing take on what the fallout games are. As I said anyone who says this game isn't amazing has never played a fallout game or has never played fallout 4 period
>go into game expecting shit RPG
>recieve ok open world action shooter instead
eh, its ok
this game wouldve been so much better if they just abandoned dialogue wheel or just quests in general and focused on making an open world survival sandbox game.
>>316601325
Pretty sure the Talon Company exclusively works in DC, and by the looks of things they might have been killed off too if DC BoS got to the point they are now.
Is it even possible to die in Fallout 4?
>Killing a deathclaw within 15 minutes of the game with a rusty minigun.
>>316601434
I know this is bait, but fuck you. The game isn't all that amazing.
>>316582049
Honestly it feels like metro/stalker for some reason
>>316601604
if you up the difficulty and turn the enemies into bullet sponges, it very well is
>>316601604
You'd have to be a liar if you never died in FO4.
1 > NV ≥ 4 >> 2 >>>> 3
From a Fallout veteran's perspective.
Perk system is awful, not much roleplaying, but as a game on its own?
Excellent.
But fuck your gay Minecraft-Mode, I'd like to keep my soul clean and free from that kind of shit.
>>316601604
I play on hard with a low endurance build, and I get two-shot all the time and occasionally one-shot.
Easy even on the hardest difficulty,
reused assets (many of the songs on the radio appear on Fallout 3, posters from Fallout 3 - even some that mention DC),
Dialogue and captions are often incorrect, and the dialogue is pretty shitty and cartoony,
guns are fun but Borderlandsy
Romance is very easy, takes about 3 hours of generating favor, independent of game progress
>>316601572
No reason why they couldn't have migrated north like the Super Mutants
Their story was that they were working for some unknown third party in an attempt to keep the Capital Wasteland disorganized and violent. If the Brotherhood united DC then there's no reason for them to stay there
>>316601634
It's a metacritic review.
>>316581249
52 hours in and I have to force myself to stop playing. Shit's pretty fun
>>316601804
med-x bae
if youre gonna do low end, youve gotta use something to supplement it
thats what i do anyways
>>316601869
The situation is that they're Mercs, unless that third party wants to make the already chaotic commonwealth even more disorganized they wouldn't really have any reason to get involved there either.
>>316601956
what's with the baby skull?
>>316601956
>that "baby"
Ahaha what the fuck
>>316601804
I play with END 1, still haven't died (8 hours in)
So far I'm regretting using CHA as a dump stat. There seems to be a lot of gated content behind persuasion.
How much CHA do I need to make most of these?
>>316602070
Well if that third party's plan went down shit creek then who's the say they don't get a new guy asking them to come to the Commonwealth to find something/take jobs
My dump stats are agility and endurance, both seem to be useless.
>>316602125
>>316602105
It's not a baby, it's Jeff Goldblum.
>>316593089
>>316593032
>>316593279
It's basically just a gimmick, there really isn't nearly as much detail in Bethesda games as they say.
I just did the little mini-quests of building water pumps then planting crops around the first settlement. The placeholder for the crops was like 8 feet off the ground, so it was red everywhere except some hedges and the top of the monkey bars. So I have carrots and tatos and melons covering the monkey bars and random hedges around the neighborhood. I love paying Bethesda for the privilege of beta testing their games.
>>316602668
Or a dwarf.
>>316602701
Oh yeah, and when I pick locks, there is no lock displayed, just the noises. Apparently the lock only shows up correctly at about a third of the screen resolutions.
>>316602918
You must be using a really shitty cracked copy.
>>316603041
Nope. $59.99 from Gamestop on Tuesday night. My rig is on the low end, though--i5-2400 with 12GB of RAM and a 750Ti.
Grabbed new drivers from Nvidia this morning and Steam didn't push any new content when I ran it. Guess I'm fucked till Bethesda does something.
Any of you guys know what's the difference between crafting stations, like, there's 2 different alchemy stations you can place for example, do they do anything different or what?
I have not torrented a game in about 6 years, are the torrents for this game filled with keyloggers and shit?
>>316601956
>the baby
What were these guys doing when the bombs dropped??
>>316582374
THIS IS MY FINAL FORM!
>>316601785
2> NV>1 >FO3> FO4
Fixed it for you
>>316603464
Torrent sites are now pretty good at removing torrents with viruses. As long as you download the most popular one, i wouldnt worry.
>>316582374
>gets in suit
>becomes Serious Sam bad guy
>>316603252
Why would you go to Gamestop (ever)? Do you enjoy paying sales taxes, wasting gasoline, and paying $15+ more than you should be?
http://www.kinguin.net/product/221564/fallout-4-steam-cd-key/
Since you're undoubtedly from California, you lost about $19 for a disc that you had to wait for to load up when you could have downloaded it in about 3-4 hours (which could have been preloaded).
Pros:
>Dungeon design is a step up, much more vertical than FO3/NV
>Combat feels way better
>Crafting system is pretty cool
>Exploring Boston feels 1000 times better than exploring NV
Cons:
>Roleplaying is nonexistant
>Dialogue wheel
>Story is dumb as fuck
>Bugs all over the place
7/10, better than I expected
Is the CODEX version alright? Or should I avoid the botnet?
>>316603914
It's alright haven't had any issues with it.
>>316581249
Guys is this worth buying an xbone bundle for? Can not be arsed with a gaming rig.
>>316603914
I'm downloading that ruskie one that has all the seeders. Looks more complicated to install but saves me six gigs, which is probably like half a day on my shitty internet.
>>316603914
Beware of bitchin' chiptune music.
>>316603914
If you're going to use the CODEX version, sign up over at seedgames, it's a private tracker currently open. Super fast, avoid the congested apocalypse of the public options.
Why is no one talking about this track? Fucking beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxE4ccOwGU
>>316604043
The xbone version drops to 0fps in some places, I'd reccomend PS4 over it if consoles are your only option
>>316604137
Because I'm fucking Piper
>>316601956
Haha, Todd u so funny man
>>316603835
I make $19 in 15 minutes. I like physical media for my games. Bought ALL the other FO games, so I got this one too. Gamestop was the only place in town that had a copy in stock.
Also, Texas, not California.
>>316604262
I Don't understand...
>>316604205
I had a ps3 that gave me some trouble after the warrenty went on it, like hard drive space being too full after a few games in it and on more than one day i had to do a hard reset, when i finally went for xbox i had no problems. So PS4 I'd like to avoid but the 0fp is like as u said, why bother with that? I'd be pc if it didnt seem like building my own car to me.
I should wait till the hype dies down and more bugs crop up that should kill my interest in it for a while. Ill check out some ps4's then.
>>316604356
At least be thankful yours can run it.
>>316594510
On top of the sarcastic options not telling you whether it's a sarcastic yes or no, none of them are actually sarcastic.
>>316604137
lots of good music i think. not so much good licensed stuff though
How the fuck can I disable lock picking/ hacking?
If I have the skill level to open it, just open the fucking thing, why add a repetitive "mini game"?
Honestly I'm not a fan of the open world genre but this game is by far the best at it, yes even better than The Witcher. The defining feature of an open world game is the world itself, if you have a boring world then not even solid gameplay or story can save it. Fallout's setting is way more engaging and interesting to me than the generic fantasy worlds of Skyrim or The Witcher. It represents quality and density over quantity and sprawl. Locations are varied and packed with little details. This is my goty and it sets the standard for any open world game to come, imo.
>>316604782
>simplify the game even more
Kill yourself.
It'll be amazing once the modding community finishes the game.
Not so amazing when Todd howard decrees that paid mods are now mandatory.
>>316604887
> Paid mods
How about reading the EULA before spewing lies you little shit?
Played for~20 hours everything felt shallow rpg/writing wise. Gunplay was fun but its not holding my interest. reinstalling nv and play as a BoS paladin so there's that
>>316594510
not to mention
>only other good character after Nick
>name is Kellogg's Breakfast cereal
for fucks sake, why todd
>>316602454
Same here along with strength and int.
>>316604818
Open world games are meant for dicking around. Are you that boring?
>>316605083
I'm planning on renaming his gun Rice Crispies.
Am I suppose to use the Power armour? Cause I'm using BOS armor and I still get killed a lot, or maybe I should upgrade them.
I really miss the Ranger armour from NV.
>>316603914
I downloaded the pre-load and unpacked it manually, but I'm suing the codex crack and its fine.
>>316605083
>Go through Capn Crunches memories
>Realize that he has far more interesting character/story than my character
Fuck Bethesda if you're gonna force me into a role at least make it an interesting one.
Just completed it, sided with the minutemen, piper as sidekick/romance
Ending was pretty tough but fuck me if that ending monologue wasnt the most retarded shit I've ever heard. Absolutely no acknowledgements of anything youve done
>>316588563
Grognak costume I think. You can find it in Hubris Comics on the top floor in a shelf.
Oh hi there! I see you picking up your copy of Fallout 4. Did you know you could buy the vault guide for only £19.99? Or how about the season pass? Get all the DLC before everyone else for on £24.99!
>>316593018
Cd projekt red fag detected
Go back to logging hours on witcher and down voting the metascore of fo4
>>316605779
HATE GAMESTOP
>>316605779
No, I'm fine.
Have a good day.On an unrelated note, have this
>>316604635
I wish it was at least consistent. Sometimes it's a stupid joke that makes you seem like the lamest guy in the Commonwealth and sometimes it's a snarky attack on someone for no good reason that just makes you seem like a huge cunt.
>>316581249
Good things: Settlement idea, sneaking improvement so it's affected by many things. Wider library of VA's.
Neutral things: Graphics, music and story. All could be better, but also worse.
Bad things: Settlement building is fucking pointless and broken. Sneaking+silenced weapons doesn't work. Even after one to three careful shots from far distance, enemies know where you are.
Saving point: Curie. Love that robot.
>>316582374
I think the bug was the text in the hud. It was only "get inside power armor" and the "grow big and transform yourself into a naked headless monster" was cut out
>>316605904
(X) UH, I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT'S GAME
>>316605979
oh boy here we go
Completely zero lag in Fallout 4, what about you guys?
i7-3930k + 4gb gtx 680
>>316603607
I see you are a man of taste too
GARY!
>>>316604876
How is adding in recycled bullshit from the previous game adding any complexity?
It's not like Bobby pins are scarce or there is any difference between the terminals.
Where's the complexity? Also this game is the epitome of casual, don't be a retard
>>316586516
the problem is that it's an incredibly shitty fps.
look, I like rpg, I like shooters. but I don't care if they go the shooter route. I care if the shooting is absolutely fucking shitty
>>316605779
I want to buy my copy from a man. It's mostly cause I wish to converse with a person with a definite gender.
Who are the Brotherhood friendly waifu companions?
>>316606213
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>>316605115
Messing around in open world games got boring after San Andreas. Nothing has improved on the formula since. So I appreciate that fo4 is heavily exploration oriented and pulls it off well instead of relying on the same tired tropes we've all seen and played to death before.
>>316582374
What game?
>>316584063
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>>316590392
You either did not play the game or you simply did not pay attention....you can be a HUGE asshole in this game.
>>316606581
Yeah they're bad, we get it.
Is the melee viable at all in F4?
>>316583993
I CAN'T ENJOY MY PIECE OF SHIT GAME IF YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT ENJOYING IT AS WELL! GROW UP!
says the faggot.
Anyway, rpg or not, I don't think the action in f4 is any good... or am I wrong?
>>316606826
Yes, but you can forget lockpick/hacking skills since your build will be full damage, since you need LUK 10 and AGI 10 for maximum AP and Crit charge.
Not to mention BLITZ, Grim Reaper Sprint, Action Boy, Toughness and many other battle oriented perks.
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