>"Finally, we have one more trailer"
>video shows outer space
>OH SHIT, NEW METROID GAME
>Super Smash Bros logo appears
>oh, Wolf in Smash?
>this faggot appears
Yes, I'm mad.
>>316576557
>wanting a shitty irrelevant fox clone
how the FUCK did people not recognize the ffvii intro track first thing
>hurr space MUH WOLF
literally what the FUG
>>316576557
All the human faces in smash 4 are fucked up
>>316576812
Neo-/v/ started playing videogames the last generation.
can someone tell me why nintenkeks are butthurt about this instead of going all "SONYGGERS BTFO"
ive yet to see a sony fan being angry at this or giving a fuck at all, but nintenyearsolds all over are mad as fuck
>>316576895
Because anyone intelligent enough to see past the meme hype can see he's just going to be generic anime swordsman #4834
>>316576937
what's wrong with having more characters in your game? or are you dumb enough to think character slots can be "stolen"
>>316576997
They probably think it's the ballot winner and not just fanservice.
>>316576812
I haven't even played ff7 and I recognized it
Like you would literally have to have known nothing about video games to mistake it
>New Metroid
>FF7 music starts playing
Yeah sure
2-3 seconds in the trailer and I already knew it's FF
>>316576557
Lol why aren't you playing a real fighting game?
Like Killer Instinct or SF?
Could not give a fuck about Cloud.
>>316576812
>all these live reaction on youtube with people not recognizing it
Fucking disgusting im getting too old for this shit.
>>316576812
this
anyone who didn't think FF7 after the very first second should end their lives
It was obvious it was going to be a Smash trailer.
>>316577165
>reaction videos to a fucking smash character reveal
This is the disgusting part, not the fact they didn't recognize the music
OMG I LOVE CLOUD I PLAYED FF7 WHEN I WAS A LITTLE RETARDED KID SO IF THEY PUT IN ANY GAME I LOVE IT EVEN THOUGH IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! GOD BLESS NINTENDO
>>316577231
This post actually sums it up pretty well.
>>316576557
No wonder everybody hates Metroid fans, fucking hell.
>>316576812
I used to think that Nintendo fans not touching anything on another system was mostly a shitposting joke I'm starting to think there's truth to it.
That intro movie is iconic as fuck and the music was blatantly Final Fantasy
>>316577231
>makes no sense
So anon, what are your erroneous conditions for a smash character making sense?
>>316577231
Who do you want in Smash, anon?
>>316577321
Having a history on Nintendo consoles for one.
>>316577334
Andy, Paper Mario, Professor Layton, Viewtiful Joe. Why?
>>316577231
>It makes no sense that this iconic popular highly requested character from a series with a long history on Nintendo consoles is getting into the game repping said series
>Snake was totally fine though
>>316576557
>Getting mad about getting a brand new character when you were hoping for a port of a clone from the worst game in the franchise.
>>316577361
>Snake was totally fine though
He never said that. And by the time I post this, everyone will some how imply he thinks Sonic, Pacman, etc are all acceptable too despite not saying that either because FF7 fan boy faggots can't into reading comprehension.
I think it's going to be pretty neat charging up limit breaks to unleash stronger versions of regular attacks.
>>316577361
Snake was an exception at only got in because Sakurai and Kojima are butt buddies. This makes on sense. It's nostalgia pandering for non-Nintendo fans.
Why not put Jak or Kratos or Lara Croft or Ezio Auditore or Master Chief or Angry Bird? They're iconic so no problem.
>>316577353
>Having a history on Nintendo consoles for one.
Roy
>>316577474
They should include Darth Vader too because he is iconic and he is in vidya games
>>316577501
>FE
>>316577526
Yeah, what about it
>Nintendrones being this mad at my man Cloud
>They are mad at one of the most iconic character in gaming getting in instead of their indies garbage or furry trash
>They don't realise that we now have a game where Mario,Sonic, Megaman, Pacman, Ryu and Cloud can all fight each other
Nintentoddlers not even once.
>>316577520
This. Also Goku, Rufy and Naruto, Mikey Mouse, the guy from Minecraft and Lego man (not the port artist).
I am pretty sure VII was on the playstation and it skyrocketed the consoles popularity. Why is Cloud here?
>>316576997
Yes. Sakurai has said they don't plan on keeping support for SSB4 for a long period of time. This means any time wasted making a shit character, i.e Cloud, is time not spent on an actual good character, therefore the character slot has been stolen
>>316577474
>It's nostalgia pandering for non-Nintendo fans.
Are you seriously still angry about 5th gen console wars?
Nintendo showed with Sonic that they don't care about past rivalries.
>>316577501
Are you retarded? Fire Emblem is a first party Nintendo created series
>>316577541
It's a first party franchise so they can add whatever character they want from it.
>>316577645
And FF has a long history on Nintendo as well, what's your point?
>>316577582
My man, I prefer something that was pretty much impossible over Krystal any fucking day
>>316576812
>>316577190
not him but I've never played a final fantasy game
>>316577353
>history on nintendo consoles for one
>Smash bros steals a rep from a sony console by popular fan request
>Instead of sony fans getting but hurt smash fans are actually so autistic they are upset they got this instead of another clone
What the actual fuck?
>>316577669
Cloud was never on a fucking nintendo console you kek. They took the 90's face of sony and just slapped it in smash
>>316577361
Cloud has never appeared on a Nintendo console though, unless you include shitty cameo
Neither him nor Snake deserve the position
>>316577747
And neither was Roy. In fact, at the time of melee, Roy was never in a video game at all
So again I ask, whats your point?
>>316577721
BUT SHOVEL KNIGHT DUDE
>>316577641
I'm just saying what it is.
You can only know Cloud if you played a game that was never on Nintendo consoles.
Yes he was in some spin offs but no one would give a fuck about him just from those.
>>316577669
It's not first party, and the game Cloud was in was specifically the one that caused Square to take the series from Nintendo and subsequently turn it into one of the biggest hits on their competitor's console. You'd have an argument if it was someone from the first 6 but they literally used the one that was never on a Nintendo console.
>>316577689
I guess Angry Bird makes more sense than cloud then. He had more games on Nintendo consoles than him.
>>316576812
I thought I had mistaken the music when the Smash logo showed up, before that I was thinking "shit nig, some shitty ff7 spin off"
>>316576812
Only Maximillian recognized it immediately and that's only because he's a huge FF7 fanboy.
>>316576812
Heard the song, saw the shoe, the only thing that ran through my mind was "Oh, he's gonna be a mii costume okay" then he popped up on the screen and his splash shit came up and I raged like an autist, I'm still so pissed about thisThis is the same thing as Goku getting into Smash
>>316577752
>Neither him nor Snake deserve the position
They earned the right to be in a mascot crossover when they became extremely influential mascots from some of the most popular games in the industry.
Aren't the third parties considered "guest" characters anyway?
>>316577761
Another nintendo handheld he is on
>>316576557
If you wanted to play your fursona in smash, you can always play Brawl or Project M, you ϲuϲk.
>>316576937
pretty much this, couldnt they make him use a bike or something?
>>316577353
As happy as I am with Cloud being in the game
I would've been okay with Viewtiful Joe too.tfw no UMvC4thanks didney
>was going to be glad for a clone
>mad over an anime swordsman
I wonder why they even bother with Smashfags
>>316577927
>Max being the least cancerous
Unreal.
>>316577141
>western fighting games
The worst thing isn't even Cloud being in. It's FF7 fags defending the choice.
Like, you could say "Yeah it's awesome but it makes no sense".
Instead they reach like faggots to explain why it makes all the sense in the world for him to be in smash.
>>316577778
He was actually on a Nintendo system you kek
>>316576557
>Not knowing it was FF7 from the first fucking note of the music
>>316576803
>>316576812
>>316578034
I never said I wanted Wolf, he just seemed like the most obvious choice given his upcoming game and the fact the he's a veteran. I would have preferred Snake returning over yet another swordsman.
>>316576812
How much of a faggot do you have to be to play Final Fantasy. Get a grip, retard.
>>316576812
theyre all underage hippsters that were in kindergarten when melee was new and now act as if they played the shit out of it and brawl
>>316578092
Cloud is great specifically because he opens so many doors though.
It means Smash Bros 5 can branch out into being a full on videogame icon crossover instead of dedicating itself to strictly Nintendo, since otherwise the roster will be reaching for newcomers even more badly than SSB4 did.
>>316578092
>These cameos in minor spinoffs totally justify his appearance!
>Nevermind that the actual game he was from never reached Nintendo consoles! This makes it okay!
>>316578136
He wasn't
>>316578141
Not everyone fapped to tifa during their childhood.
I don't give a fuck about final fantasy and the fanbase makes me think I made the right choice.
>>316578092
FF7 fan boys are as insufferable as Undertale meme'ers
>people doing gymnastics to make sure Cloud fits into their "Nintendo history" rule
The rule is basically bunk, get over it already.
>>316578052
I know that feel bro
>>316578194
Underage just go
>>316578191
Ok anon whatever you say
>>316578092
The fact that you ever thought there were some kind of qualifiers necessary for a character to be in Smash beyond Sakurai being allowed to put them in and wanting to is the thing that makes no sense. Especially after Snake.
FF7 is older than 80% of /v/.
>>316578141
This. If you ever played FF7 at least once in your life, you have no excuse not knowing that scene combined with those first few notes.
>>316578245
nostalgiafaggot pls go
I had a SNES not a PShit1
>>316578247
And Clouds been in KH CoM on GBA, KHReCoded on DS playable in the Hercules world, FF Theatrhythm on 3DS as a party member, FF Theatrhythm 2 on 3DS as a party member and FF Explorers on 3DS playable
>b-but they don't le count!?
>>316576557
Fuck you, I like him.
>for a character to get in smash they need to have a history with nintendo
When will this meme die?
>>316578247
That game wasn't released yet by the time melee came out in Japan.
Checkmate, faggot.
>>316578190
Literally the only Metal Gear Solid game on a Nintendo console was a remake that wasn't particularly well received. Sonic was literally the mascot character of what had been a rival company.
Thinking it needs to be 'justified' just proves you're retarded. The only thing needed for a character to be in Smash is Sakurai wanting to put them in. That's it.
>>316578292
>Not being an idort during the 5th gen
>>316576812
you know full well that the majority of posters on /v/ are underage.
>>316578292
Sure thing faggot, you totally aren't some underage shitstain trying to desperately look like an oldfag who owned a SNES and not a "PShit1" even though PS1 and SNES were from two completely different console gens.
>>316578317
Yeah I bet those spin offs are the reason he's in. Not because of FF7. Riiiiiiight.
I'm sure a lot of people who didn't play FF7 played those spin offs and though "man, I wish this Clod guy was in Smash". Suuuuuuuuure.
>>316578141
I don't even like FF7 and I recognized the fucking music.And even if you didn't the stars and shit were a fucking dead giveaway
>>316576812
People are just that desperate for a clone to return.
>>316578318
>gba isn't a nintendo system
>>316578317
They fucking don't those are shitty spin off titles not the game he actually came from
>>316578387
The spinoffs justify the arbitrary restrictions madlads are placing on smash characters, along with FF legends if you want to go by Roy logic.
Anyone with a brain realizes that >>316578349
is completely right.
>>316578387
Why is that an issue? What the fuck is with Nintendo fans? There aren't fucking rules to what's "allowed" to go in the game. The creator decides what goes in the game. There were never any rules beyond what he felt like.
Holy shit are you literally children?
>>316578381
Well I only had a SNES and my parents didn't let me buy a N64 so I had to skip that gen.
>>316578439
When did I say gba wasn't a nintendo system?
>tfw Sakurai and Nintendo don't care care nearly as much about console war faggotry as people here do
should have known this when they greenlit Snake my friends
>>316578349
>Literally the only Metal Gear Solid game on a Nintendo console was a remake that wasn't particularly well received.
First of all, it was well received by everyone outside of /v/. /v/ is not the entire universe. It got good reviews and made several "top gamecube game" lists. Not everyone bitched about the cutscenes.
Second of all, you're a fucking retard. The first Metal Gear was on the NES and the GBC had the exclusive Ghost Babel. 3 games. There's no excuse for saying things without researching them.
>>316578387
He's in those games as an FF7 rep, and he originates from FF7, but those are still Nintendo games with him in it
Cloud has been in countless fucking games you dumb faggot, most of them not FF7 related.
>>316578439
That doesn't fucking matter in the slightest, he's in Nintendo games so get BTFO
The Advent Children version of Cloud is also in Smash and that is a fucking movie, so fuck right off.
>>316578439
>not the game he actually came from
Why is Roy ok then?
>>316578619
It's okay when anon approves
>>316578619
Roy isn't a third party character that originated on a competitor's console. He was developed in house so therefore he was an official nintendo character
>>316578562
Some people on /v/ even like the gameSome even like it more than the original.Like me.
Scary, I know. Keep that one under your hat, friend.
>>316578619
>This fucking retard still doing his Roy mental gymnastics
He's from a Nintendo exclusive franchise in a Nintendo exclusive game that was releasing exclusively on a Nintendo console. The game being unreleased at the time is completely irrelevant, there was never any doubt about the game coming to a Nintendo console and it's not even remotely comparable to a Sony exclusive game.
>>316578865
So a character must be from a first party nintendo franchise. Ok got it. What about the ones that aren't?
>>316578619
>disliking best koopa
>>316578862I like you, friend.
>dark pit will never be removed
>>316578928
I never said that. I'm debunking the retard who thinks Roy is the same case as Cloud.
>>316578986
So then if that's not a requirement for smash characters, then what's the issue with Cloud?
>>316578179
Mfw that's the truth with one of my friends
Tfw he praises the shit out of melee and never played it and shits on smash 4
>>316576895
because it would be too sony to obsess over what is happening on other consoles. Nintendrones are happy with what they have.
that said, sony just got btfo
>>316579079
Cloud's not the character anon wanted.
>>316576557
Anon, I pray you'll stay mad forever and die being mad.
>>316576895
Smashfags get triggered by swords.
>>316576895
>say "SONYGGERS BTFO"
>get flooded with "B-B-BUT SONY"
>"FUCKING NINTENBABIES"
Yeah no thank you.
>>316576812
It's not my fault Final Fantasy sucks. Stay mad faggots.
>>316579160
Ah it all makes sense now
>>316579079
They don't need to be first party but they need to at least have appeared on a Nintendo console.
I have no problem with third party characters but right now Cloud is specifically advertising FF7, you can't deny it with cameo appearances, the trailer outright states FF7.
If we got the FF7 remake on Wii U/NX it'd be fine but it seems like a really odd move by Nintendo.
>>316576895
>instead of going all "SONYGGERS BTFO"
That's the difference between Nintendo and Sony fans.
Sony fans would be like OH MAD NINTENBABBIES BTFO WE HAVE SOMETHING YOU DON'T WAAAAAAAH MAD OH SO MAD NINTENBABBIES"
They like gloating about what they have more than having what they have.
>>316579079
not him.
i was about to play FF7 for the first time and celebrate his inclusion, but i found a game with lots of charm and futuristic bikes, and i cant but ask why is the dull remake version what we are getting.
its like adding sonic boom or ghostly adventures over classic megaman, man.
>>316576812
Because I grew up with the SNES games.
Ok guys post the one character you want who doesn't have a chance getting in.
Really would like max to be in
>>316579353
They should have appeared on Nintendo as fedora tip, the only thing surprising about this is how little Nintendo involvement Sakurai is willing to let slide. People thought Snake was a minimum and were wrong. Big deal.
>>316578180
this already happened before cloud idiot.
>who is sonic
>who is pacman
>who is snake
>who is ryu
>>316577589
Rufy? Did you really type fucking RUFY on an ANIME BOARD without getting BTFO?
W O W
O
W
>>316579497
Cloud is the point where the Nintendo's basically saying "anything goes."
There's a reason he was a joke request for ages.
Reminder
>>316579491
Hey, with Cloud, anything can happen now
>>316579574
>ryu
>>316579497
Are you being facetious or are you actually saying none of them had actual history on Nintendo hardware?
>>316579619
>>316578056
This is why Sakurai was right in not doing what the fans want ever. This ballot is just going to result in some shitty indy inclusions and minor characters that haven't been in any games for years.
>>316577474
No, you fucking retard. FF7 was supposed to be on SNES/N64 before it jumped onto the PS1, so Cloud being in Smash is a wink to an opportunity that never happened, that's why the first thing he says is "Never thought I'd see the day".
>>316578439
He's trying to say that Roy's debut videogame was Melee, his Fire Emblem title was released after Melee wow how are you so fat?
>>316579526
he also typed mikey mouse, so it was pretty obvious he was being an epic trollerdog
>>316576812
Now I know why Smash fans get so mad whenever JRPG reps get in and the "literal who" spamming.
All they play are kid-friendly stuff like Mario and Kirby.
>>316579574
>Snake
>Ryu
Are you really this retarded? Brawl basically confirmed this, Ryu cemented that confirmation
>>316578561
Exactly. He was an ad for the PS3's first killer app on the Wii's first killer app. It's ridiculous.
>>316579682
>this headcanon
wew
>>316577689
Sehjen pls
>>316579676
Have a better example
>>316579639
But they aren't first party which a lot of Cloud haters seem hellbent on
>>316579676
>not SF2
Underaged please go.
>>316579676
your point? SNES didnt exist then?
>>316578929
Underrated response.Because he actually is best Koopa.
>>316577141
But anon I already have MvC1-3 on my PS3Funny thing is that the servers are still up
>>316579491
Lip is the only character I can honestly say I'd love to see, since Panel de Pon is probably m favorite game. I'd be cool with just a stage or assist trophy.
But Panel de Pon's identity is so all over the fucking place that even if it wasn't dead it'd be hard to justify giving it any representation.
>>316579775
>>316579784
>>316579790
I specifically used a modern example the anon I responded to would recognize since judging by his green text, he wasn't aware Ryu had a long history with Nintendo.
>>316579372
underrated post for a fact desu
Am I the only one who doesn't even know who the fuck Wolf even is? He wasn't in the original and I barely remember 64. I mean, that's more my fault for not playing the games. I just don't see him as an iconic character at all, Cloud is much more so, though a little strange having not been on Nintendo.
>>316577190
I better kill myself than playing this shitty turn-by-turn RPG.
>>316576557
>>316577098
this. you'd have to be a special kind of dumb to not realize it straight away. haven't even played 7
>>316578986
Roy will never be the same case as Cloud because Roy literally hadn't been introduced to consumers before Melee and Cloud Strife is a household name. I've never played a Final Fantasy and I even know who he is.
>>316579868
He's the rival character from 64 who you fight on two planets.
He was given a larger role in Assault and Command, along with a redesign.
>>316579578
>Krystal
>a character from a series with one good game which she wasn't even in
lol
>>316579837
Christ. I'd love Geno (though I'd rather have mallow), and SMRPG is probably my favorite game, but seriously thinking Geno is more known than Cloud? To anyone at all? What a fucking idiot
>>316579876
This one is for >>316576895
>>316579859
b-but japanese priestess are patented by ZUN
>>316579853
>Ryu had a long history with Nintendo.
do you honestly believe that ever mattered?
of course you do...
>>316577582
All we need isBahnand I can die peacefully
>>316579654
why are shovelknight fags so buttmad that their secret little special character isn't getting into a game that they think is worse than melee?
>>316579737
Try and dispute it, if you can.
Nintendo is known to make references to past blunders like the Virtualboy, so why wouldn't Cloud being in Smash have something to do with FF7 leaving Nintendo consoles, WITH A QUOTE LIKE THAT.
>>316576557
>wanting a fucking third clone to a character that's only a side character to a series that's already represented to death in Smash
>being bored or mad by Cloud, a new crossover character with a unique moveset from an awesome as fuck game
Kill yourself.
Reimu soon lads.
>>316576812
I recgonized it, I thought it was a remake coming to Wii U or something.
When the Smash logo came up I thought it was some obscure Nintendo game that was similar to FF7 and my brain was relating it to the closest thing I could think off.
>>316578929
>>316579813
>Best
>Not Iggy
>>316579983
Mario in Smash is always angry because he would rather be at home eating spaghetti.
Try and dispute it, if you can.
>>316580041
He's not wrong. It's the same deal with anime and NGE.
>>316579579
I'm still wondering whether characters like Travis, Bayonetta and pic related would be considered for Smash at this point. I mean, they wouldn't be the first characters originating in an M-rated game, but their fighting styles are just inherently violent. You can take away Snake's guns and he's still Snake, but Travis without the beam katana is just some otaku.
>>316580097
This one is also for >>316576895
>>316580097
>ac is the reason cloud has an emo rep
real shame
POST YFW WE GET YAKUZA CHARACTERS
>>316580115
But NGE was actually good.
>>316580169
And one more for >>316576895
>>316580145
This is why I'd never expect to see them.
The first thing you think of when you see Snake is stealth. The first thing you think of when you see Travis or Jack is gorey, brutal violence with lots of blood.
>>316577427
Snake was at least on GameCube starring in a game. Cloud is literally an npc in a gba spinoff Kingdom Hearts game.
This all feels like some shitty fanfic idea I had as a teen, and I love every second of it.
>>316579989
>ugh, genwunners
>>316580194
>the kick
Oh fuck I can see it now
>>316580208
Exactly. Good, not the messiah of Japanimation.
>>316580058
So what you are saying that Nintendo referencing a very, VERY famous incident in their history with a character from the game in question is about as wild an assumption as making up random factoids about a character.
I don't know why you even bother typing.
Who cares if you're mad? He's in and it's awesome, get over it. Or keep whining about it on 4chan, we all know that's all you're going to do.
>>316580275
>WHERE THE FUCK IS SHOVEL KNIGHT???
In one shitty generic game.
So basically people are mad because they were expecting literally anyone but Cloud and are still trying to cope with the fact that they got completely and utterly BTFO by a left-field character that no one saw coming?
>>316580145
Beam Katana is no different from the Beam Sword already in the game. The only thing to worry about with Travis is his swears and fighters don't really talk outside of taunts and victories anyway.
>>316580325
>the Nintendo universe
I have zero doubt this guy writes fanfics.
>All this salt
Jesus christ. Makes the already amazing Cloud reveal even better.
>>316579937
>>316576895
>FF7
>Sony
But I've played the superior version of FF7 on PC in 1998.
Holy shit i thought that Krystalfags were just a joke like with K.Rool, but turns out that some people ACTUALLY BELIEVED their furry waifu ever had a chance to begin with
>>316580349
>random factoids about a character.
Did you never watch the Super Mario Show? That's an important part of Mario's history. Hell, look at the intro to Sunshine. Mario loves spaghetti and what you wrote is indeed fanfiction.
How many people do you think know about what happened with Sony and Nintendo and the Playstation?
>>316580445
>Picking Barret over Cloud
In what fucking universe?
>>316580445
>No black characters
That's what Miis are for, silly!
>>316580521
>picking Cloud over Ridley
In what fucking universe?
>>316577114
>Instantly recognize the first seconds before it becomes apparent it's FF7
>"What"
>It's actually FF7
>"What"
>Smash logo
>"What"
>>316580445
tbqh I'd rather have Barrett
there are a lot of shitposting going on with regards to reddit but I honestly cant believe that they are defending this shit kit
>>316580594
A good universe of course.
Nice, just what smash needs. More anime swordmen.
>9 years after Solid Snake was announced there are people who couldn't even entertain the notion of another third party with fuck all to do with Nintendo
Cloud was a big surprise for sure but come on.
>>316578092
Why does it have to make sense you fucking clown?
It's just a fun game with lots of different IP's.
Oh boy, another generic sword character..
>>316579937
these shops
>>316576557
>hoping for Wolf
>dissapointed by Cloud
this is your fault alone for having shit taste
>>316580776
Yeah why can't we have Shovel Knight who is a generic sword character BUT WAIT HE USES A SHOVEL AS A SWORD SO ORIGINAL AND GROUNDBREAKING
>>316580519
>How many people do you think know about what happened with Sony and Nintendo and the Playstation?
Let's see, uh.... hmmmmm.... how aboooout.... FUCKING NINTENDO?
You are proposing that Nintendo, in a game that is CHOCK FULL OF REFERENCE TO OLD STUFF OF THEIRS THAT NOBODY REMEMBERS, despite the fact that they reference the fucking VIRTUAL BOY all the time, when they put CLOUD STRIFE in their own game and make him say "I never thought I'd see the day" NOWHERE IN THEIR MIND is the fact that FF7 was supposed to be on a Nintendo console, but then switched sides.
Jesus fucking christ, get your head checked.
>>316580594
A small one, duh.
>>316580772
But then why did they choose a extremely popular and famous character instead of my favourite literally who from a game that nobody but me remembers?
>>316580509
I hope you guys all have a black video game loving friend in your lives, they really are the best fucking company
they can also make anything fun, anything at all, even a game you've played a thousand times before
>>316580752
>Snake
>Fuck all to do with nintendo.
What about all those fucking exclusive metal gear games nintendo got.
Ghost babel?
Twin Snakes?
Snake's Revenge?
>>316580865
That's Kyle Reese, not Solid Snake.
>>316580853
I'm not sure what you're trying to say
>>316580984
Most people who didn't want cloud wanted shovel knight instead, so he's making an ass out of himself as well as you.
>>316581124
But I didn't say anything about Shovel Knight
I don't want Shovel Knight or Cloud
>>316580940
Just because he had some releases doesn't mean his ties to Nintendo weren't relatively minor or strained (only one of those games is even canon because it's a remake). There are many third parties with much more involvement and his reputation during the time of Brawl's release was that of a Playstation centric mascot. If Snake hadn't been in Smash nobody would ever have seriously suggested him at all.
>>316579654
>>316579578
>>316579837
>>316580275
>>316580325
These people ARE expressing hate for Cloud, but was there a need to add unnecessary photoshop'd text?
>>316581229
Good thing Kojima really likes Shigeru then.
I'm glad nintendo has such a good influence that they can actually get cameos like this pulled off.
>>316581227
That's why I said he was making an ass out of himself and youHe was assuming
>>316581365
Oh, I thought you were calling me an ass
Nevermind
Holy shit the shovel knight tears lol. Cant wait for december when hes not announced.
>>316580594
This one.
>>316580426
Just tone his language down a tad, he still has goofy non-vulgar shit to say like STRAWBERRY ON THE SHORTCAKE
>>316580445
>No black Characters in smash
So apparently Ganondorf isn't in smash?
Neither is DK and Diddy too?
So who's ready for Cloud to be at least as strong, if not stronger than Link and Mario? Because there is no way that the PR rep, that Squeenix is guaranteed to have sent, would let their character be weaker than Nintendo's main poster character.
Hey guys?
I know shitposting is fun, but don't you think that if "nintendrones" were actually upset about Cloud being in smash the official trailer would have something less than 7054 likes against 322 dislikes? That's like a 4.5% dislike ratio.
I mean I get a few retards being confused and angry, but that kind of happens all the time anyway. I mean, who besides "nintendrones" would go and rate an unlisted video for a Nintendo exclusive? Even the directs themselves have a solid green rating.
>>316576557
Reggie said "I feel like a new trailer is approaching"
If you didn't know it was Smash from that, your fault
>>316576557
Nearly all of us op
>>316579703
Kingdom Hearts CoM
Final Fantasy Theatrhythm
Retards need to know what they're talking about or at least research a little before they say shit.
>>316579654
>>316579768
Why are these people so fucking delusional to think Shovel Knight is not only on Cloud's level, but somehow above Cloud? What the fuck is wrong with their brains that they think Shovel Knight is more classic, renowned, and beloved?
>>316581754
>What the fuck is wrong with their brains that they think Shovel Knight is more classic, renowned, and beloved?
Echo-chambers
>>316581754
People just want characters from games they've enjoyed very recently.
You saw a lot of support for characters like Travis Touchdown in the Brawl days and nobody talks about him now.
>>316580445
Yes, race should obviously be the dictating factor in determining characters. That would totally be the not racist way to do things.
Are Metroidfags the worst human beings on the planet?
>>316581827
>Echo-chambers
Yeah, good thing we're on /v/.
>>316579353
No they don't. Samurai said months ago from here on out all DLC characters will be fan service
Cloud is fan service
He's in Smash.
There, can you all shut the fuck up now?
>>316582065
The Metroid fanbase is relatively decent.
Bronies are still the worst human beings on the planet and nothing short of Deviantart, Tumblr, the Sonic fandom and Jews fusing together will claim that title.
>>316576557
The moment he died this shit happens.
>>316580940
>>316581229
In perspective Snake highlighted how a strong Nintendo history wasn't really a prerequiste and in fact Sakurai implied as much soon after. Appearing on Nintendo was only a small and very broad prerequisite, for some reason people totally ignored that and came up with the heavy handed assumption that besides Snake only the greatest of Nintendo patriots could appear.
>>316582092
At least on /v/ people will say your choice is shit. Other sites you'll get banned or warned or buried for it.
>>316582152
That were true then what the Fuck about ridley
>>316582065
>Guy watching nintendo stream thinks space aesthetics might be for a metroid game, as he doesn't recognise the music.
>FUCKING METROIDFAGS REEEE WORST FABASE OF ALL TIME
>>316582280
Dude literally everything Nintendo did this year and will be doing next year is stuff Iwata already knew about
>>316580910
samurai obviously has bias against you personally and i would not stand for it
>>316579491Or just Donald Duck in general.
>>316582280
Iwata died for us to get Dragon Quest and for Cloud to be in a game that won't be shit since Nomura has been bashing FF VII and saying how he plans on making the FF VII Remake for the "modern audience"
>>316582492
>he plans on making the FF VII Remake for the "modern audience"
pls no
not like this family
>>316582589
He also said Compilation characters will be making an appearance.
I hope you like bad poetry.
>>316582492
Nomura never said that, he said he is staying true to FF7 without it being a shitty rehash you fucking faggot
>>316576812
My thought exactly.
>>316576557
>>"Finally, we have one more trailer"
>>video shows outer space
>>OH SHIT, NEW METROID GAME
the last time they did this you got other m
>>316576812
Until the music started playing I thought it'd be Wolf due to the stars.
>>316582663
No he said no new characters will be in FF7 and that includes the compilation characters not being in the remake, and he also said they aren't using the compilation for reference and instead using a new Cloud model too, fuck off with your bullshit meme elsewhere
>>316582390
There's not enough fans relative to his size.
>>316582390
It is true
>From now until the end, it is going to be fan service, but I can't keep the development team together forever, so there's only going to be several more characters. I also ask for your patience, as we need time to develop more content.
Anyone who says "b-but he wasn't on a Nintendo console" should just shut up now because that was never the case and definitely isn't the case now.
>>316579703
>Krystal
>iconic
This is how delusional furfags are
>>316576557
Why are you mad that Cloud got in? Could you explain it a bit?
>>316577165
I refuse to believe even a single person didn't recognize the opening. I require proof. This has to be a meme.
>>316576557
>OH SHIT, NEW METROID GAME
>was playing final fantasy music
what are you retarded?
>>316576557
> yea im mad
Would rather wolf from brawl rather than a completely new fighter
> faggot
>>316581868
ahem
>>316579579
I never stopped wanting Travis.
>>316581489
He better be, Link is low-mid tier at best.
>>316579937
>>316580169
Like, what is Nintendo even stealing Cloud from? Do these retards not realize the PS4 is getting Dissidia and both Cloud and Midgar are present?
Do they think this means Cloud can't appear in anything Sony anymore?
>>316583007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1myCYcIGn8
>>316583220
>Like, what is Nintendo even stealing Cloud from?
PSABR
>>316577427
Reading comprehension? He didn't imply that any other characters where problems because he did not state nor imply it. Therefore from reading comprehension we would be lead to believe all the other characters where fine.
Idiot.
>>316583270dedgame
>>316577629
No its not "stolen" yiu fuck wit, you cannot steal a character slot. They decide what's going in, and if they didn't pick your shitty character it's because they never would have anyway. There is not slot stealing in fighting games.
only thing that surprised me is that they used Cloud instead of Lightning
Lightning is far more iconic than an emo kid with a weapon that's taken straight out of dark souls
>>316578149
> his upcoming game
Wolf has been nowhere to be seen in star fox zero
>>316576812
What I hate are the ones calling Omnislash a Great aether ripoff.
>>316583427
dumb pepe poster.
We have Cloud in Smash and all you can think about is "muh metroid"? One of the worst fanbases in existence. I'm glad that disgusting 3DS game is happening.
>there are people on /v/ RIGHT now that want Wolf over Snake and Ice Climbers as a return fighter
>>316583263
>7 Intro music playing
>Yo it's gotta be wolf
I'm triggered.
>>316580857
Oh ok so you're retarded. Go on.
>>316583717
That guy probably OP.
>>316583427
go away toriyama
no one cares about your shit waifu
>>316579353
You fucks are insufferable. Sakurai will put in whoever he and his department feel like is the best move for including them. Sales included. Clouds iconic and even just from the smash trailer seems kinda badass. Not to mention how iconic is sword is by itself.
There are no stipulations for a character being in smash, I mean fucking Rob was a perifial.
>>316583705
What's the matter, scared?
>video shows outer space
>OH SHIT METROID
if these were your thoughts, and you didn't recognize the music right away, you're an idiot
Let's all take a moment to appreciate some GOOD news about Smash Bros
The ballot closed before flavor of the week fags could spam Undertale.
>>316579682
That's a pretty cool thought anon
>>316583007
>I refuse to believe even a single person didn't recognize the opening
Yeah man, I mean, that would imply that there are people that haven't touched a Final Fantasy game in their lives.Are people really this surprised that there's a minority of people that didn't recognize the tune?
>>316583943
>/v/
>appreciating anything good
I'll go ahead and appreciate your sense of humor, but that's about as close as you're gettin'.
>>316576557
>"I sense a new trailer approaching"
>NEW METROID GAME
>>316578582
>The Advent Children version of Cloud is also in Smash and that is a fucking movie
1. It's an alternate costume, not a separate character
2. Cloud is a video game character, material from other appearances is fine
3. Pokemon already established point #2 back in Smash 64, since all of the Pokemon are based on their anime and film characterizations
4. Luigi has an alt costume of his colors from the obscure Mario anime movie
>>316583905
>perifial
Go back to school, anon.
>>316579775
Man, the boxart on that is great, especially Blanka's shit-eating grin.
>>316576557
>blatantly giving away your underage status by not immediately recognizing the opening of FFVII thinking it is just "outer space"
>>316584518
This seems less underage and more diehard Nintendofag
>>316576812
I've played every FF except 7 and 8 of course I didn't recognize it right away.
It's obvious from the trailer that it's going to be a post FFVII remake using the FFVII cast and world.
I won't have to deal with that cuntface, Aeris; so thank god for that.
>>316584619
Why not both?
>>316581418
The Jokermobile should be more of a thing in the DC-verse.
If you didn't recognize the opening music, you have either
1) Never played the game
2) never seen the trailer
3) never seen the PS3 tech demo
4) never seen the ps4 remake announcement trailer
If (1), you have no right calling the character a faggot or being mad because you haven't at least tried the game. You should, it's a good game.
If (2-4), you are a shitty gamer who doesn't follow any video gaming news or events like e3 and need to get off of your fucking high horse
>>316584783
How is it a remake if it takes place after?
>>316584794
That'd mean Joker returning his "he's a clown criminal" instead of "THE WORST MOST MENTAL CRAZY MURDERER EVER SO SCARY EVEN VILLAINS PISS THEMSELVES AT THE THOUGHT OF DEALING WITH HIM"
>>316576557
i thought they'd port ff7 to wii u or something
then the smash logo appeared
>finally an anime swordsman I actually give a shit about
BASED
>>316580395
This just sounds like people are still upset their precious hipster character didn't get in and are taking it out on Cloud I for one am glad he made it in. I mean as a FF rep I'd assume Warrior of light of someone who appeared on a FF game on a Nintendo console would have appeared but let's face it Clouds the most popular appearing in numerous spin-offs, side games and having a movie.
>>316584880
Man, Batman going Nolandark really did a number in how to represent the characters. Shame The Brave and the Bold, '66 and even BTAS are the ones that still remember his clown criminal roots.
At least we have baneposting. But now's not the time for /co/-talk.
>>316584838
>Never played the game
I havent
>never seen the trailer PS3 or PS4
By the time the music got to the recognizable part of the trailer, the FF logo was already showing. For comparison, in the trailers, that part was at that point when Aeris was on-screen. Befre that the music is just a quiet hum. If there was more time before the FF logo, I'd have guessed what I was hearing.
Also Cloud ain't a faggot nor emo, I know that much. The fact people complaining about it are keks is absolutely correct.
>>316584861
That's exactly why it's a remake and not a remastered version. I'm guessing "remake" was used as a red herring.
>>316584838
>If (1), you have no right calling the character a faggot or being mad because you haven't at least tried the game. You should, it's a good game.
But I haven't been calling Cloud a faggot, anon. I don't even give him shit for being "another anime swordsman". Despite the only FF I've ever played being Crystal Chronicles, I'm honestly pretty happy with Cloud's inclusion. And if I'm perfectly honest, I'd probably try out FF7 if I wasn't really tired out by the RPG formula nowadays. Leveling up just isn't as fun as it once was.
>If (2-4), you are a shitty gamer who doesn't follow any video gaming news or events like e3 and need to get off of your fucking high horse
I mean, I didn't even know what E3 was until I was like, 14 or so. Nobody ever talked about it and I never had much internet to hear news through other means as a kid. Added to that, I'll openly admit to having grown up exclusively with Nintendo and only ever playing other consoles because friends or family had them.
I mean, I just don't see why it's apparently 100% impossible for someone to be alive during the right period but still not recognize the music or intro as a whole. Improbable maybe, for it's widespread fame, but not outright impossible.
>limo captcha
That's a new one.
>>316583941
Ridley fans getting shit on by samurai again.
>>316576812
I was wondering that too with all those live reactions. Then they get excited for Cloud, who was really only well known from FF7. I don't get it. I never played FF7 but he's two things I don't want for a new fighter: a sword user and 3rd party character
I would have done the trailer a little differently myself, just to keep the ruse going as long as possible. Really just swapping the placements of when the Smash Bros and FF7 logos appeared.
Though I guess that would imply FF7 as the dominant in the crossover, not Smash Bros.
I like it and I don't like it.
He's looks like Ike, mechanically. I think all the summoning stuff is cool, and the limit gauge thing (however that functions), yet I don't like that Cloud has so many summons. It doesn't feel right.
I like the Toad spell though.
I, personally, am erect.
>>316579879
>I haven't played the game and I still knew who it was! Look at how hardcore gamer I am /v/!
You sound like a typical underage faggot.
Well, King K Rool is practically confirmed for the Direct in December.
This guy was never wrong yet. He's psychic.
>>316576557
Feels good not having hipster taste in FF. Glad I'm not a rosterfag.Metroid would have been nice, though.
>>316585115
To be fair it was done before Nolan. The Return of the Joker comes to mind.
>>316579717
>Kirby
>kid friendly
KEK
>>316585119
You don't seem to be OP or the people complaining.
>>316585301
You also don't seem to be OP or the people complaining. However, "I didn't know what E3 was like until I was 14" - the Final Fantasy VII Remake announcement was at the most recent e3. Nearly impossible to miss if you frequent this board at all.
My post was directed at the OP and anyone who is bitching without having played FFVII.
I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan myself, with FFIV being my personal favorite and I would have seen Cecil or a generic Black Mage as a better fit, but it's impossible to argue against the fact that Cloud is without a doubt the most iconic Final Fantasy character in the series. He's being used to promote the new game, and he HAS had Nintendo appearances (See: KH: CoM and others)
>>316576812
I stopped playing Final Fantasy after 5. What can I say, you millennials know about the newer games better than I do.
>>316585829
Except most people played V after VII because V never got an NA release, and so was played emulators (dat zsnes).
Good backpedaling though, millenial faggot.
>>316584880
Why are the Flash villans even scared of him? They could downright murder him.
>>316577629
>famous protagonist from beloved classic game
>game is part of one of the biggest series in all of video games and one of the biggest games in that series
>is from one of the staple game companies that has yet to be featured in Smash and is now getting to crossover with and fight the others
>fuck huge sword
>has a variety of awesome attacks combining sword and magic
Exactly how is Cloud a shit character
>>316586159
Because I hate him and don't want him in Smash, grrr.
>"b-b-but muh fan smash criteria!!!! muh big nintendo history!!!!"
>ITT: mad Smash rosterfags don't know how it works
-originated as a video game character (and for video games)
-holds big history for video games
-a couple of Nintendo appearances
-Sakurai and the dev must agree to the character
-can go though "the Sakurai filter" with Sakurai having full creative control on the character.
that's how it works.
>>316585709
>the Final Fantasy VII Remake announcement was at the most recent e3. Nearly impossible to miss if you frequent this board at all.
Oh, you meant that one. I thought there was some kind of E3 reveal during the time of the original FF7 or something.
As for this recent one, I'd heard about the remake, but I didn't really pay it any mind nor see the trailer itself because, admittedly, Nintendo's E3 conference is still the only one to attract my attention even to this day.
It's less out of an interest in Nintendo (though that is there in spades) and more a disinterest in what everyone else does.
In any case, yeah, I find it pretty silly that there's so many people upset about this reveal for such minute reasons. I mean, I can kinda understand people being upset that their character didn't make it in, but there's also the December announcement, which is almost definitely the reveal of the ballot picks with Cloud most likely being unrelated to that. So there's still a hope for someone's favorite literally-who to make it in.
>>316586112
Contrary to your belief, not every single person on this planet lives in the west.
>>316579474
I also grew up with only nintendo and I've done my homework and actually played lots of games that I missed out on because they were on other consoles
There is no excuse
>>316586329
>Only nintentoddlers treat Kirby as if it was this really edgy franchise
you can thank deeplorefaggots for that
theorized shit can bring in a ton of headcanonicity autism to something you like
see: Zelda, Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Starfox, etc.
>>316577215
People like to talk about cancer here, but this shit is pure filth that never should have become part of modern YouTube culture. 2 girls 1 cup was both the dumbest and worst thing that happened to the Internet.
>>316586376
Yeah, only the good ones.
>>316586514
You're proof positive then that not all Nintendo fans are living in this third party free bubble. People seem to parrot this narrative all the fucking time and it's annoying.
>>316576557
>video shows outer space
You must be 18 or older to post here.
>>316586579
>not enjoying elaborate theorycraft for franchises that were never meant to have deep backstories
It's like you're trying to be a faggot.
>>316586616
I may not be like that but most people that I know that grew up with Nintendo are that way and you bet it pisses me off
The stereotype of nintendo fans living in a nintendo bubble doesn't exist for no reason
>>316586809
go back to fanfiction.net you fucking autist
>>316586238
so if Halo DS came out on the DS back on the seventh gen with a few couple of sequel coming out right afterwards, does that mean Captain King have a shot?
he's an FPS icon and he doesn't even need real guns to fight (needler, beam sword, plasma grenade, etc.)
>>316587162
probably
>>316587162
yep, as long Sakurai and Microsoft agrees to make it happen
>>316586994
>enjoying fun theories supported surprisingly well by ingame details is autism
You're still being a faggot.
>>316584619
You don't understand. Playstation completely saturated the market. Anyone who played games at the time at least knew of VII and most likely played it at least a bit.
Basically they didn't live through the era at all and it shows, hard.
you gotta understand Smashfags. Here's just a small sample size of what they voted for on the ballot. Let's see... King K. Rool, a character Nintendo has been trying to phase out and basically just another fat reptile. Wolf, the most boring moveset in Brawl. Roy, a clone. A Waddle Dee in a bandanna. I could go on but these are all objectively worse choices than Cloud. If anything the voting has proved that either Nintendo has run out of viable characters themselves or Smashfags are incapable of voting for the remaining worthwhile ones. Either way, Cloud's inclusion is a victory for sanity.
>>316587416
>wanting wolf in smash
All of my "why?".
They need to bring back Ice Climbers. They were wonderful characters.
>>316587416
>sourcegaming fan poll
>facts
even PushDustin went out and said his shit isn't reliable at all
also, the ballot not guaranteeing popular/unpopular votes so you can just trash your speculation pie chart
>>316587572
Ice Climbers can't come back because of the 3DS.
>>316587572
3DS hardware limits
>but they can make em as one!
yeah, let take out something that made them unique and work in Smash in the first place.
bet you want Captain Toad as a fighter as well
>>316586963
The opposite for me. Most people I know that grew up with Nintendo had and continue to have decent exposure to third parties, but by way of buying the games on other consoles (not like they have much of a choice though). I think the stereotype exists, like all others exist, for the reason that there's a grain of truth to it.
>>316587387
Or they were completely absorbed into the N64. I know I was at the time. Didn't give a shit about anything else for a while. Sure, I knew about FF7, but never played it. So yeah, I didn't really listen to the intro music back then.
>>316587656
>>316587764
So make them wii U only characters. I don't understand why something wasn't done to keep a very solid, unique, and fun character like the Ice Climbers. It's not like they were some clone trash that got dropped; like that fuckface, Wolf.
>>316588019
Sakurai said no to exclusive characters
SoPo ain't happening
>Mfw people are STILL mad about bayonetta 2
>Mfw Cloud will be the new thing people will NEVER EVER let go
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BTFO
SAKURAI = GENIUS
Pls samurai deny them wolf and any speculation picks.
Give them krystal and waifus. That will complete the rosterfag insanity.
You outsiders looking in KNOW you want to see this shitstorm.
>>316588008
Basically this for me too.
It wasn't even so much that I hated every other console either. It was just that I was happy with the console I had to a point that I didn't feel a need to check out other ones, especially coming from a family tight with money.
>>316583007
The audience for smash are nintendofags
Are you really surprised when it shows that they know jackshit when comes to stuff that isn't nintendo?
>>316576557
How did you not recognize that obvious FF7 intro jingle? How could you think it was going to be Metroid from the sound of it?
>>316576557
I saw him, and wondered why, but I ain't even mad, frankly. It's neat.
>>316588246
The confusing part is that there shouldn't be a shitstorm for Cloud at all, just surprise or positivity. It blows my mind that people are so fucking retarded that they consider Cloud a bad choice, yet think Wolf and Shovel Knight are far better choices somehow.
>>316576812
I haven't even played FFVII and I could tell from the intro
>>316588357
I've never even listened to a FF songi#m sorry anon, i've wanted to play one for years
>>316587416
>King K. Rool, a character Nintendo has been trying to phase out
Retro deciding to use some original villains doesn't mean Nintendo is trying to get rid of K. Rool, why do you people always assume this shit?
>and basically just another fat reptile
Charizard says hello, and how many characters on the roster are "basically just another X"? Quite a few. Doesn't matter when they can bring their own unique stuff to the game, just like how Bowser and Charizard are both fire-breathing reptiles yet play completely differently.
>>316576557
>mfw I'm unironically excited for this
Stay mad, I'm going to be over here enjoying things.
>>316585485
Those were stage hazards bruh
>yet another blondie blue eyed sword slashing whitey
A new era of retarded, autism filled, fanfic will be upon us. May Allah have mercy on us.
>>316588913
This picture makes no sense. If he was Trump on all levels EXCEPT physical, why does he look like Trump?
>>316588581
>Retro deciding to use some original villains doesn't mean Nintendo is trying to get rid of K. Rool, why do you people always assume this shit?
Mario doesn't have to phase out Bowser from games for 5 years.
>Charizard says hello
that's the point dipshit
>>316576557Stay mad, son.
>>316582390
Because making a playable Ridley that wouldn't look like a janky mess would be a herculean task even for Sakurai.
>>316583007
I have never ever played a Final Fantasy game and i never will, its not as special as you think.
Specially with those ridiculous hairs, they literally have a 10 year old kid in charge of character design.
>>316576812
>Here's one more thing for you guys
>Mother 3 was on Japanese direct
>oh is this mother 3?
>Starts with stars and that song
>Why is FF7 music playing?
>smash logo shows up
>Is this what I think it is?
>Oh wow
>>316578349
>literally the only metal gear solid was a remake
Pls be a troll. Either that or underage.
>>316576812
Yeah this. Im so embarassed that so many people don't know ff7 intro
>>316585485
the toad is actually an assist trophy, the others were stage hazards and you can see it was just a taunt when he did that magic cast animation
>>316581432
He also has lots of wrestling moves. His moveset is pretty varied and I doubt they'd have trouble working it out.
>>316589765
>Specially with those ridiculous hairs
You type like a 10-year-old.
>>316576812
Almost worse than people not recognising fucking Mega Man until he put the helmet on.
>>316589686
Sakurai is shit though.
>cloud
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P9wvcUJsuMM
>>316576812
I thought FF7 remake is coming to NX
>>316590381
Sorry, im not a native english speaker.i do fuck a native english speaker though, time to slap that booty for not teaching me well
>>316578190
Those cameos means his met the minimum condition of being on Nintendo, if that even is one at this point.
>cloud
CRAWWWLING INNNN MY SKINNNN
>>316583270
>PSABR
Did you hear they're adding Shrek to it at fan request?
>>316589765
that the astetic of the mid 90's. You don't have to act like it's wrong, it's just how things were done back then.before you were born
>>316580915
unless you get one that was beaten as a child; then everyone of their losses becomes a disaster
THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEALLL
>>316591771
I'm just upset at how fast he swings that thing around, it looks like there's no satisfying weight to the attacks.
So what tier will Cloud end up being?
>>316591771
this
most roster kids here are full of entitled hipster or underage with subpar as fuck suggestions
>>316592314
the Limit Break shit might slap him onto S/A/B-tier
>>316592314
>>316592554
I'd say mid-tier is probably the bare minimum. He's a pretty solid character by the looks of things, and Limit Break provides some neat utility. It'll depend on how easy it is to charge up Limit Break, really, especially with his recovery being really sup-par without it. It's linear and doesn't get very good distance unless it's LB charged, and to my knowledge he's only got the Up-b to rely on for recovery.
>>316589404
He wasn't phased out. Retro decided to use some original villains. and if Nintendo was so desperately trying to get rid of K. Rool, why does he get a trophy in ever Smash Bros game and a Mii costume in 4? You don't erase a character by constantly reminding people of him.
Your point for what, why K. Rool shouldn't be in? Then let's remove Wario since we already have two characters in overalls, Zelda since we already have Peach, Duck Hunt since we already have two retro characters, and Pit since we already have a shota.
>>316592314
I'd love to say SSS tier because I love the dude but he is probably going to be B tier but that is not bad by any means
Linkle is a good waifu for him
>>316593772
I'd ship it
>>316593772
>already three pictures of Linkle and Cloud having sex on paheal
Degenerates sure work fast.
>>316590117
one thats metal gear not metal gear sold so hes still right, on top of that you could also say that that version is a bad remake poorly received as well since its a fucking horrendous port.
>>316594085
yeah its amazing how fucking quick porn gets made of stuff, look at overwatch, like every day with that shit.
>>316594085
Are they degenerates or pioneers?
>>316592891
How mad would people be if his side b could be used to recover like Marth's in Melee?
>>316576812
watched it secretly at work with the volume off while I was helping a customer.
Keeping a straight face while talking to them was near impossible.
>>316576812
FF series is weebshit. Of course healthy people wouldn't recognize it
>>316594507
Probably pretty mad in certain circleslike /v/
Myself, I'd be pretty happy. It'd give him a boost in usability, which in turn would prompt more people to use him and give him a higher shot of being seen on Xanadu's streams or something.
>>316576812
Pretty much this senpai desu, baka
>>316594615
Seems you're the mentally-unstable one here, with the "hurr /v/irgin maymay for things I hate anyone who likes what I doesn't is brain-damaged grrrrr!".
I was surprised they didn't have him fighting link in the trailer.
In the late 90s Ocarina and FF7 were the hot games for their systems and everyone was doing Link vs Cloud who would win.
How does one man manage to create so much BTFO?
>>316594885
is this what it's like to be kucked?
>>316577656
Roy is from Melee. That was his first appearance.
>>316576812
>see stars
>dee doo dooo....dee doo deiduuuuu
>Oh it's FF7
>>316576557
>Ragequit Tr4sh months ago due to shitty DLC and Sakurai's constant condescending remarks insulting fans that expect him to give a fuck about the gameplay in Smash
>Happy playing P:M
>Sneer at threads expecting anything good to come out of the Smash ballot
>Hear about Smash announcement during the direct, expect Shovel Knight or some other flavor of the month shit
>Nope, it's Cloud Fucking Strife, the one character across all of vidya that would make me care enough about this shitty game to pick it back up again when I was on the verge of being done with the series forever
I'm the one who's fucking mad
>>316594902
>mfw people try to re-enact the Death Battle with an "alternate ending"
>>316595049
Linkle has a husband/boyfriend?
>>316595209
I really hope Cloud is good enough to regularly shit on Link. That Death Battle was such a fucking insult
>>316576557
Fuck you, buddy.
>>316595282
>he doesn't know Link is a professional kekold
>>316576812
>Playstation kiddies
>>316595209
Death Battle is garbage. I don't understand why it gets so much attention.
>>316595194
Cloud has nothing to do with the Ballot, that's being announced in December.
Also, if you hate Smash 4 so much that you need to parrot the latest /v/ memes about it, why would some new characters concern you at all?
>>316576812
I didn't even though it would be a smash character, because this time we didn't get the smash logo in flames at the beginning
>>316595341
You can say that again
Most of them are complete bullshit
>>316576895
Because this isn't sonyggers btfo.
It's literally just shilling for a Sony game.
>>316576557
>Wolf
I'm late but kill yourself.
>>316595458
>Cloud has nothing to do with the Ballot, that's being announced in December.
I never said he did, my point was I expected no good characters to come out of it because all the characters I thought were realistic were awful
>Also, if you hate Smash 4 so much that you need to parrot the latest /v/ memes about it, why would some new characters concern you at all?
Because it's fucking Cloud Strife in Smash Bros.
>>316594902
Probably because Ike holds his sword vaguely like Sephiroth.
>>316577165
Only good reaction coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK5gdf5cMPM
>>316595545
i'm so glad Sakurai didn't put "console wars" into his criteria of adding/discarding potiental guest characters.
the N64fag salt is fucking amazing
>>316595804
Sakurai had zero say in this.
>>316576557
>one of the most iconic video game characters of all time
>the face of squate enix and final fantasy
>the protagonist of probably the most famous JRPG of all time
Also he cameos in FF: Explorers (3DS). He's also in FF: Theatrhythm, and Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (GBA).
He is incredibly iconic. I don't even like FF but I think he was a worthy inclusion.
>>316595087
eh reh
>Actually wanting Dark Fox in Smash again
Fucking hell even Galactica Knight would work better cause of his spear holding moveset potential.
>>316595762
>Ike vs Cloud's Omnislash
>suddenly remember Brawl Taunts
>>316595797
>not CLOUD NIGGA?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkm00TFP5vM
>>316595851
ok thanks for letting us know guy who works at nintendo
>>316576812
Because I don't like/play overrated shitty RPG games, so I don't have to recognize this shit.
>>316595851
oh he does, see >>316586238
and this affects the 3rd party ballot characters as well. you're not getting in for free, buddy.
>>316576895
>Sony makes Final Fantasy
OK Pal
>>316596043
No he didn't.
Nintendo said, "We're adding Cloud to Smash as a promotion deal with Square Enix. We pay your salary. Do it." Simple as that.
>>316596160
you're an english insider at NoJ/Sora LTD?
>>316595941
>>316595797
Any reaction that doesn't have the person immediately recognize the FF7 intro is fucking garbage. Max is great because he knew what was happening and wanted it for years despite having no hope for it
>>316596297
No I'm anyone with common sense.
>>316596160
fuck off Chris Pranger
>>316595910
>Again
I wanted him in the first time
>>316596371
Tamaki pls
Sakurai will put Krystal in over Wolf just because he can
>>316592043
Well, if you want him to viable in Smash 4's meta, you better hope he's fast/has good frame data because the best characters in the game are like that.
>>316587416
All of those are worse choices than Cloud? A good majority of them are first party.
>>316576812
>>316577165
I think the Mega Man and Greninja ones were pretty bad.
>people not recognizing him until the splash screen comes up
>Greninja silhouette
>ITS MEWTWO!
some spiky haired loser from playstation instead of NINTENDO CHARACTER yeah good idea idiots
>>316596537
Judging from the trailer he's Shulk tier. Huge startup and ending on all those attacks shown. He's gonna get fucked by rushdowns, Fox and Sheik especially.
>>316583007
I've never played Final Fantasy in my life, much less JRPGs. If that makes me a filthy casual pleb, then so be it.
>>316596535
>Sakurai will put K.Rool in over Dixie just because he can
>>316596553
They're all literal whos who no one knows or cares about and don't deserve to be in Smash Bros.
>>316596713
That would mean he's competent and makes good decisions though, which we know isn't the case.
>>316596605
As a Mewtwofag, I was in absolute shock to know that people actually thought Greninja's silhouette looked ANYTHING like Mewtwo.
>>316596863
No-one thought that. They thought that the Mewtwo hand creating some vague blue force was Mewtwoish.
>>316595861
I don't know. Chocobo would have been a better choice. It's pretty much the mascot of Final Fantasy and has had more Nintendo games and appearances than Cloud ever had.
>>316578069
Late but implying that SF is only a western fighting game that's a special kind of autism.
>>316595861
>one of the most iconic video game characters of all time
>Cloud
Maybe if it's like a top 100 list.
>the protagonist of probably the most famous JRPG of all time
You mean Pokemon?
>>316597003
Nobody would give a fuck about playing as a Chocobo. The primary reaction would've been "Where's Cloud" or "Where's Sora". They cut the bullshit and did what would get the most hype for selling Wii Us at Christmas
>>316596713
>Doesn't realize the correct way is in reverse
>Sakurai will put Dixie over King K Rool because he can
>The more popular picks get shafted
Also not him.
>>316597001
Which is just as bad if you ask me. And there actually were people who legitimately thought that the shape belonged to Mewtwo.
One thought I just had: I think it's interesting that both Ryu and Cloud are characters that feature stronger, EX versions of their typical attacks. I wonder if this was partially done to make up for the fact that they lack proper custom specials.
What benefits is Nintendo getting with adding all these third party characters, you ask?
$$$$
I'm glad Smash is now being the game that reps as much game history as possible.
>>316596764
>Don't deserve
You sound like the cloud whiners in this thread anon. Dont be a hypocrite
>>316576812
I thought it was Wolf for a split second because of the stars but then the music started and my brain exploded
>>316597179
Yeah because it was clearly Mewtwo imagery as a troll. The hands look nothing like Greninja's. They aren't even webbed.
>>316597116
Name a console RPG character more widely recognized than Cloud.
>>316590409
I saw a video that had someone think it was Gary Oak
>>316596764
Speak for yourself. I'm pretty sure people know who K.Rool, Dixie Kong, Isaac and Jibanyan are.
>>316576557
>go to youtube
>want to watch reaction videos of cloud
>keeping score
>so many wolf fags getting BTFO
what a great day to see stupid shits like you get mad over not getting your furry rocks off.
>>316597294
Dragonborn.
>>316597363
>Isaac
>Jibanya
Are you fucking joking?
>>316597116
If you count Pokemon, which I wouldn't. Most don't even know to categorize it as a JRPG.
>>316597134
it was an anti-analogy
Wolf and Dixie is likely to be included before non-priority suggestions like Krystal and K. Rool.
>>316576812
Nintendo fans are supposed to recognize a song from a PS1 game? If most of the Sm4sh audience owned a Playstation they wouldn't be watching the Direct years later.
>>316597383
BWAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE FUCKING SERIOUS
Even my normalfag friends know Cloud as the guy with the giant sword
>>316592043
To be fair Cloud has never been slow with the Buster
>>316576812
I actually thought that ff7 remastered is gonna get a wii u release
![[HorribleSubs] One-Punch Man - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.54_[2015.11.14_13.00.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kiIOlvW.jpg "[HorribleSubs] One-Punch Man - 06 [720p].mkv snapshot 00.54 [2015.11.14 13.00.31]")
>not a single Metroid announcement
>not even a mention of FedForce
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>>316597435
>which I wouldn't
Yeah because it serves your agenda to ignore facts like these.
>>316597491
Wow that's impressive that they say, "Oh it's the guy with the big sword I've seen before." Very iconic. However you nicely try to dance around the fact that I just named you an RPG character more recognizable than Cloud. Did you have anything else?
>>316597414
Not at all. Problem?
>>316597614
>>316597614
>However you nicely try to dance around the fact that I just named you an RPG character more recognizable than Cloud. Did you have anything else?
I didn't know who Dragonborn was so I had to go look it up. Not every is a fucking casual that plays Skyrim
The giant sword is much more iconic than any Bethesda shit
>>316597285
Exactly, which is why it bugs me that so many people thought it was him.
>>316596371
You just sound like an extremely entitled buttflustered feminist / sjw
>>316597453
>Thinking wolf was ever prioritized
Top kek, he'd have shown up with roy and lucas, its always fun seeing wolf faggots btfo direct after direct.
Nah you know what i meant was correct.
>>316597591
nothing
except to Metroid haters of course
>>316576812
Because I was subconsciously telling myself it would never
happen and I still call myself a dumbass for not recognizing it.
>>316597285
>makes water shuriken
>IT'S MEWTWO
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJMCIt9Zz9g
>>316597751
And you're very rare.
Skyrim's 22million copies in 2011 and arrow through the knee memes give it more cultural relevance and presence than FF7's 10million in 1998. The fact that you acknowledge Skyrim is the casual game of choice just argues my point further, he is even more recognizable to the general audience because of it.
So no, i guess you didn't have anything else.
>>316597285
>Mewtwo using water shuriken
>>316598009
Did you even watch the trailer you retard? The first shot is just Mewtwo hands in darkness conjuring a vague blue blob.
>>316595941
>Space...WOLF!?
Closed the video
Burned my computer
threw it out my window
called the police
called the Pope
called Trump
Fuck you for actually linking that shit, making me give him a view, thinking that it was good and enabling these fuckers
remember when people who played FF7 first were casuals? how the times have changed
>>316598064
Then Cloud is the most recognizable JRPG protagonist.
WRPGSs are fucking trash, anyway, especially Bethesda's buggy disasters of games.
>>316598207
>Cloud is the most recognizable JRPG protagonist.
You mean trainer Red?
>>316598064
FF7 came out almost 20 years ago and the remake is the most hyped announcement from this year's E3. You're also ignoring his involvement with several other Square games and his general influence on the genre as a whole
Skyrim is going to be dead and forgotten when the next Flavor of the month open world game drops. FF7's legacy is forever
>>316598207
Also this.
>>316598147
Yes, did you? When the hell did bubbles or anything even remotely blue become related to Mewtwo? Also look at the arm, if you knew anything about Mewtwo you'd know he doesnt have a giant orb on his elbow.
>>316598147
>ninja hand signs
>IT'S MEWTWO
>>316598269
>You mean Mario?
FTFY
>>316597228
Or you know, probably because those were mechanics from their own games and serves to make them not only more unique but faithful to the games
>>316598278
>the remake is the most hyped announcement from this year's E3
Oh really? You have the empirical data of the objective hype levels of various E3 announcements?
>Skyrim is going to be dead and forgotten when the next Flavor of the month open world game drops
Sure, fortune teller, but we're talking about right now anyway so that doesn't matter.
>>316598269
People don't even know he's called "Red."
I'd bet most think he's Ash.
>>316598485
>Sure, fortune teller, but we're talking about right now anyway so that doesn't matter.
Smash games are a tribute to video game history as a whole. It's why Mega Man and Pac-Man are here despite being shit now. Bethesda's games are nothing but a stain waiting to be wiped away and forgotten
>>316597363
Nope, according to /v/ no one at all knows or cares about any of those characters therefore they are not worthy of being in Smash, plus only furries/pedophiles/autists/tumblr/reddit/deviantart/facebok,/SJWs/someone else they hate like them therefore they're shit.
>>316598374
There are no bubbles, just blue offcast. You're truly retarded if you're still setting back your goalposts to argue this. The intention is clear. He has Mewtwo hands and just makes psychic energy looking shit.
>>316598656
It's okay to admit you're wrong anon, no need to name call.
>>316597856
why would they prioritize a character that wasn't relevant years?
maybe you should take a little read right here:
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/07/10/sakurai-didnt-say-that/
>Sakurai: "Also, characters and series that have no plans for future releases, or a low possibility of future releases, inevitably will be considered lower priority."
and with Sakurai talking how he's remaking characters from ground up, makes you wonder why Wolf isn't here yet.
took over 4-6 months to bring over Mewtwo and Lucas to Smash.
>>316598518
People don't even know he's called Cloud.
I'd bet most think he's "big sword guy".
>>316598603
Which is irrelevant, your original point was that Cloud is the most recognizable RPG character, which is incorrect and you've conceded so by just finding different things to deflect to.
>>316598838
That's cute, but I've already demonstrated why you're wrong. What your obsession with this is I can't imagine, but your shitposting at this point is not even worth clicking through infinite street signs to correct anymore.
>>316598906
>I said it so it must be true
People have been joking about Cloud being in Smash since before Brawl came out. This is fucking huge
>>316598906
No. They know he's Cloud.
Pokemon got really popular and a lot of people played it. At the same time, the anime was popular for it, so people associated the two.
>>316578063
>thinking Max is cancerous at all
Unreal
>>316599095
I never said it wasn't. Now you're still just trying to find different things to deflect to.
>>316599170
>No. They know he's Cloud.
Sure bud, if you say so. I'll let you speak for "they" whoever that is, because it's not the general audience. Did you mean, "people who know he's called Cloud know his name is Cloud"? How many people do you really think that is? Because I think you're absolutely deluded if you think it's any significant portion of people or even gamers today.
