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ITT: The building part of FO4
Why is nobody talking about this? Building things is a nightmare with the retarded snapping. The walls with door holes have the holes in the middle but stairs always snap to the sides of the floor boards. Did nobody at Bethesda actually try to build something and notice this? Mod to remove this stupid shit when?
>>316567640
i agree, cant put roofs on anything and when they do attach they are always facing outside the structure.
I currently have all the beds for my settlers in a room with no roof and gaps in every corner.
I have fonder memories of Halo's Forge mode.
I don't think most people playing FO4 care that much about the building stuff. I've barely touched it.
There's also this. Most of the roof pieces curve upward and that's nice unless I need to put more than 2 pieces together. Any flat roof will only snap to the bottom of the other roof pieces so the entire roof must be flat. Is there also a way to unlock more building materials? I feel sorry for anyone on consoles who tries to get into this to take a break from questing.
>can't put half of the decorations near walls
>can't place water pumps without them sinking into the earth
>levitating chicken wire fences
>no way to properly manage your settlers at a glance
>settlers don't auto-assign to empty positions
>no way to supply smaller settlements with watter or food from larger ones
>guard gear doesn't affect defense rating
>only two types of guard checkpoint made from wood
>can't attach walls or fences to it
>armed guards and settlers attacking ghouls and super mutants with their fists instead of their weapons
>no taxes or toll booths
>can't breed animals
>can't make settlers hunt
>happinessWHY THE FUCK HAVE I SPENT MORE TIME BUILDING SETTLEMENTS THAN EXPLORING
>>316568907
>no way to properly manage your settlers at a glance
Fucking this. Every time I set up a new structure that requires a settler I have to remember or guess who isn't assigned to something. Then i have to go back and make them harvest food after I see my food plummet because I chose the wrong one.
>>316568907
>no way to supply smaller settlements with watter or food from larger ones
Actually, this you can do.
here is how I have done up the Red rocket place
its a work in progress so shit will most likely change
>>316567640
They basically took the GECK tutorial set pieces from Fallout 3, cut your selection in half, and added forced snapping. It's absolutely terrible. You shouldn't have to do this in first person, nor should you have to do this without noclip.
>Try to build a wall around a settlement
>It looks disgusting and is floating everywhere
How do I fix this?
>>316569384
explain please, b0ss
IT JUST WORKS
>>316570853
There's a button for lowering your wall into ground, fucking retard
>>316570947
What's the button, dickface?
>>316567640
It's too much time investment. I don't want to play the Sims, I just want to explore and do my own thing. Do I have to bother?
>>316570853
use tcl in the console as it lets you clip structures together
is there anyway to force people in smaller settlements to fuck off to bigger ones?
>>316570910
One of the perks lets you set up supply chains between settlements and another one lets you set up shops.
>>316570985
Im not gonna tell you
>>316571049
This. Nothing about building sounds appealing in Fallout. Can you skip this shit entirely and just wander the wasteland or is it mandatory to complete the game?
Was trying to buildthe teleporter into the institute, accidentally built two platforms, so I tried to get rid of one, but couldn't scrap it, so I tried to store it. But because one was stored, it wouldn't let me finish the quest because I still needed to "build" the platform, even though I had a working teleporter set that was fully powered. Idk how I got it to work. I think I stored both platforms and built one right under the giant tower thing and that tricked the game. but fuck i wanted to smash my monitor
>>316571049
I cant say I have gained any direct advantages from building my settlements bigger.
Maybe the artillery bit, but that was a quest in itself and not part of regular settlement building..
>>316568907
Mods will fix it:^)
>>316571138
It's not like I wanted to know it or anything, asshole.
I just want to build shit that doesn't look like it's been through 200 years of bomb and wasteland decay.
You know, stuff that instead looks like its actually been recently BUILT?
Hopefully we'll be able to just download towns off of Nexus or something.
>>316571163
You can skip it
>>316571286
Then wait however many months for mod tools
>>316571286
Institute scum.
If only it was gridbased like sims
>>316569685
looks cool anon, true to fallout
Offtopic:
How/where do you get the gauss rifle?
>>316567640
For the reasons you described OP. It's just too much work and not enough reward. I just used the huge prefix wood house for Sanctuary and did all the requirments for it and haven't touched building since.
>>316571570
I found it on a dead Railroad soldier on the quest where you attack their town.
>>316571613
there's a quest where you attack the railroad ludites?
>>316571131
I have supply routes set up between all of them, weird. Does it only add them if the indicator is in the red?
Mods will fix it
Bethesda knew this
>>316571657
Yeah. It's part of the main quest.
>>316568301
You're insane. It's hella fun.
>>316571686
Ok, rad. I'm level 31 and have barely touched the main quest.
>>316567640
>it just works doe
I just want my 100 Happiness, holy shit.
It will go up to 80~ and then drop down to 60~ for no reason.
Beds are inside, I have a bell, I have decorations, lights, shops and plenty of defense.
Why do they randomly decide to stop being happy?
>>316571723
>>316568301
Eh, I haven't touched it much either desu. I've been saving my resources all for guns.
>>316571743
Humans are selfish as fuck, mang.
>>316570853
>can't place water pumps without them sinking into the earth
Do you even know how water pumps works??
Not even gonna read the rest...
>>316567640
I've taken control of 3 small places because of a quest line with the nigger. How do I access my main stash in those locations? It's a different stash from my stash in sanctuary and that sucks big time.
>>316571902
get the first leadership perk, it's 6 Charisma required.
Then when you highlight someone, instead of command you make them run a supply line to a settlement of your choice.
What I do is, supply run from Sanctuary to the farm. I get a settler from the farm to run a line to Red Rocket, and then another Settler from Red Rocket to the farm in the Northeast and so on.
This allows for all to be connected and share the same junk/materials.
>>316568482
nothing wrong with flat roofs. it means you can build generators up there and run wire down through your building
>>316567640
What do you expect this to be dwarf fortress? Just be happy it exists at all
(its just a marketing ploy dude that's how bethesda games always turn out. A low effort, half assed implementation of something that would have been cool that is only technically there so they can slap it on the box/get mouthbreathers to talk about it)
>>316572105
so does this mean i can run supplies from a shit hole and take all its resources then cancel my supply runner and ditch the shit hole but keep all its good loot?
>come back to sanctuary
>super mutants everywhere sand some huge dog like creatures
>>316572230
Build turrets.
I have 3.
Never been attacked.
>>316572270
I had 5 at that point. They were coming from all sides. My defense is 118 right now.
>>316572105
What? Isn't junk already shared between your workshops?
>>316567640
>know about the shitty pathing scripting that they do
>see this building thing
>know that everything will be fucked, no matter what because the npc's cannot navigate
Its like putting a v8 turbocharged engine inside of volkwagen family car.
The engine block will drive out of the car on its own the moment you put the keys into the ignition.
Such a really dumb choice to make for a game. Practically speaking these things have no value to this game.
I know of many gmod submods that assign health to objects, making terrain somewhat destructable and also fun in combat with other players. But here it doesnt matter. Its all aesthetics. Pretty for screenshots but without any functional value.
>>316572368
as long as your defense is higher than your food and water intake.
The settlement stuff is boring fluff that should've been left as a mod.
>>316572384
Nope.
Not by default.
Pain in the ass ain't it?
>>316572605
How do I get food higher than 13? I can only build 6 of the same.
>>316572727
dunno.
I'm not interested in building up my settlements all that much at the moment.
Can I just skip building stuff? Shit gives me a headache when I play.
>>316567640
How do i lower walls/fences into the ground?
Dat height limit. Can't wait for <spoiler>mods on Xbox</spoiler>.
>>316573648
damn only 5 high? i was hoping to make some big towers about 10 high
>>316569685
>not walling the entire settlement
Do you even comfy.
>build a perimeter wall around sanctuary
>almost maxes out the size meter
what's the fucking point if you're so limited ?
Okay guys im making a character on fallout 4, someone give me a fun stat spread to work with
>>316573648
><spoiler>
>>316574496
max out your charisma
>>316574450
You can remove the limit on PC, just find the mod on the nexus.
>>316574616
I did actually my last try b4 save corrupted, max luck max charisma
>>316567640
Fuck me dont get me started.
Trying to build ultimate Poon house for me and cait.
6 hours of bullshit aligning and its still broken. and then it happens.
>Cant build any more stuff
>there is a limit
>im on pc
>why.
WHY.
>>316568115
Thats because forge works. and has a larger limit.
>on the xbox 360
>>316568907
exploration is 10/10 m8
>>316574496
Max Luck Max Charisma
Literally no other way to play.
Couple of questions. First, what does the triangular symbol with the exclamation mark inside it mean when it appears next to a settlement's name in the pipboy? I thought it meant the settlement was under attack but there are no hostiles when I get to the settlement and one of them had no settlers at all but still had the alert.
Second, what's the deal with some of the powered stuff you can set up? What does the siren do? Is there any use for that that powered speaker other than making an annoying buzzing that shifts up tone? What can you do at the terminal if you build it?
>>316571176
The teleporter is supposed to be under the giant tower, retard. All must be on the same power grid as well.
>>316574795
Im thinking of going like 10 in charisma 6ish in luck.
>>316574420
how do i wall up around my settlements when the walls snap together meaning i cant make the most out of the room i got? i just want the walls to not snap together
>>316574496
go for 7 int and i think 5 per and about 5 strength and spread out the remaining points but remember agi doesn't mean shit towards sneaking
>>316567640
>try to build a fence around my town
>fences always clip in the ground
fuck did nobody at Bethesda test this shit?
At the end of the game the brotherhood said i had some new power armor. anyone know where it is?
>>316575162
Is there any high int dialogue?
>>316575251
lolno
There's no low int dialogue, either.
>>316574897
the triangle icon means you dont have enough of something, mostly defences.
as for the powered stuff, i only use that for simple lamps and waterpumps
>>316575251
nope
charisma is the only stat that effects dialogue
>>316567640
Looks like you need to git gud, OP.
>>316575251
oh and almost every chance chat option is to do with getting more caps for a job and its usually only like 50 caps
I'd rather play rust
>try to build a new settlement to start a new life
>can only build some raggy decaying structures with holes in them
What's even the point if i can't make a cozy village for me and my bros to live in?
>>316571665
Is there anything Caspere didn't know?
>>316575482
>Game has crafting and building system
>Get given my own room in Vault81>Get best Waifu, Curie
>Can't even customise my room.
This game is suffering/
>It just works
>tfw if Obsidian gets to make a new Fallout as well, they will give us a fucking G.E.C.K to make our dream settlement
I walled off the whole of starlight, but its so much area that I'm not gonna use so I think I will change it and just wall off from the back of the building to past where the hole in the ground with water is, cause thats where my pump is.
I also wanna think of a better light sign then an arrow...
>>316575623
i absolutely fucking loved that you could find a vault that actually survived and didn't get fucked up. just to see everyone still alive and doing alright.
I can't wait for mod to fix all those ugly part, I want a GECK and I wanna make some concrete or brick house like in the old fallout.
meanwhile, it's the best I can do
Rate my meat fridge.
>>316575993
Steak/10
>>316571286
You mean like what they have in 1 and 2?
i came across some random bos knights and decoded to see how hard they were to kill in their power armor.
to my surprise, not only were they weak, but they didnt fight back at all, didnt go hostile and im still good with the brotherhood.
i was able to grab all their armor pieces.
it may have been because they were trying to find a far off distant enemy, as they were running frantically and i couldnt speak to them at all.
anyone else find this glitch?
>>316574496
6 - Strongback
4 - Lockpickan
3 - So you don't fall over from a stiff breeze, could go for Penetrator if you wanna be an ebin stealth archer
5 - You can find a special book in your son's bedroom to get Local Leader at 6, leave it at 4 if you're not interested in settlements and put it in INT
6 - Literally required, go for Nuclear Physicist too
1 - >VATSCommando is alright tho
3 -Critical Banker and Better Criticals are okay-ish
>>316575808
yeah so what was the social experiment of vault 81?
>>316576789
dont wanna spoiler it. just look for some little girl in the vault and she'll ask you to rescue her cat. do that and then you can finally do shit.
>>316576465
Exactly.
You know what else is dumb about Fallout 4.
The Vendor Perk not only does make the Vendors cheaper, they also take less money from you when you sell stuff.
What abstarct kind of world is this?
>>316576671
Why would you have charisma at 4?
Looks like garbage perks for the most part. Lady killer/Black widow could be alright for conversations I guessbut then again this is a bethesda game so I doubt you get many opportunities to use it.
Are you limited the the current existing resources in sanctuary? Can they respawn or can you get more outside sanctuary? i wanna build big stuff but then i realised i might not have enough materials so i quit
>>316577441
Have you even played Fallout 4? It's the first game where charisma is useful
>>316577548
I've only just started and only looked at the requirements for perks.
Fuck.
>>316577002
After you get the cat back, you leave the vault and fast travel to a couple of places/wait a day and then go back. If that tour guide kid is in the infirmary then the quest has started.
>>316577529
You can get more.
Strip another settlement and move the resources by hand, or if you got the local leader perk you can set up supply lines between settlements, which basically, makes them share whatever is in their workbench I think.
>>316577623
Im 5h into the game and I put charisma to 1, after some hours i realized you need a charisma level of 6 to be able to share junk between workshops across the map
What is supposed to be the best way for connecting wires around? At the moment I just have conduits everywhere to turn them around corners and shit, it's a hassle.
Is it all just squares for walls and floors? is that it? How many materials do you get to build walls from?
>>316577865
Thats how wires work anon.
Either put your generator somewhere where wires can be run easily or use conduits.
>>316577729
ok thank you
>>316571131
Literally communism.
>>316577729
What happens when you strip literally everything?
>>316575685
That's pretty nice. I forgot that place even existed.
>>316579049
Its a really nice place to build, and if you don't wanna use the building you could do something with the Cinema screen.
I was gonna make some sort of giant light logo on it but all the copper the fucking wires make use, holy shit.
Maybe I'll try again once I have a big stockpile of copper.
Are there any good anti-roof Brahmin defenses?
>>316579464
THIS FUCKING SHIT HAPPENS TO ME TOO
>>316575060
Use junk fences. No snapping, although because of the uneven nature of their construction you do have to be careful about not leaving gaps between sections, although if there is, you can also build barbed wire posts to fill said gaps.
I basically turned the first Red Rocket garage into a goddamn deathtrap with one entrance and about 7 turrets around said entrance area, above and on the ground. Wasn't interested in the settlement construction so much at the moment, so I decided to just make one good one for my own needs and leave the others be.
The fucking shrubs.
Why don't they let me get rid of the shrubs.
Totally fucks up building where you want.
I like it, but I was a huge Rustfag before it turned to complete shit so I'm pretty autistic. 30 hours in game so far and have only done 5 missions, sprucing up settlements is so addicting
>>316575685
Not a fan of that settlement area but that's rad as fuck m8.
>build a foundation and walls
>already used up 90% of possible objects
What the fuck? I thought size referred to how big your settlement is, not the maximum amount of objects.
>>316580832
you can open up the console, click on the shrub then enter "disable".
the same works for skeletons, and if you misclick something, just type in "enable" before clicking something else
>>316575496
The things he knew
>>316571314
but entire portions of the game will be devoid of any life or purpose
>>316582071
I'm on console, I moved out of Red Rocket because some Molerats attacked and for some reason like 3 of them are to heavy to lift and died inside the garage.
>>316573648
This is pretty cute, I will give you a 7/10 for originality for a shitbox tower
>>316579760
>>316579464
kek, I found that fucker in the bathroom one time, god only knows how he got through the door.
>>316582173
Eventually they are gone. I have massive operations out there and it's badass
>>316567640
>Mod to remove this stupid shit when?
after the creation kit comes out.
>>316582173
I find it funny that the game still has that problem from 3/NV where ash piles made from enemies disintegrating with laser guns never disapear but become unselectable
Does fallout 4 have low intelligence speech?
>>316582173
>I'm on console
>no console on console
kek
>>316584226
Yeah the game is full of it.
>>316584226
no
only charisma effects speech options and most the time its just to get a few extra caps out of a job.
with that said charisma is still important in this game
>>316584226
Not that I've found. I have 1 intelligence and drink beer and was hoping to run around yelling off "HATE NEWSPAPER" and "SARCASM" like a retard, but those are apparently code words for vaguely related eloquent speeches.
>>316585198
>>316585563
>>316585790
So what ur saying it i can make a character with downs, but they get to have homosexuals couples? thats not very progressive at all.
>>316585990
>So what ur saying it i can make a character with downs
I'm sorry you can't play as yourself in this game, bro.
>>316586075
You offended me :'[
How do you get more people to come to the settlements? It seems like Sanctuary has been stuck at 5 people for the last 4 or so hours of play-time.
>>316567640
How high does Sanctuary want it's fucking defense?
I'm at 92 and I'm still getting the caution symbol.
I couldn't believe there wasn't a way to disable the retarded snapping. You can't even make your own fucking corners. I eventually gave up and just placed one of the pre-made buildings on the middle of the construction platforms.
>>316587146
look at what you're lacking then
Why is this even a thing? Why are you building a fucking settlement an hour into gameplay?
Say what you will about Shitrim's Hearthfire, at least it was modular shit done after the base game was "finished".
It's like they tried to make some horrible Frankenstein's Monster out of Bioshock, Minecraft. and Mass Effect and failed in all fields.
>>316587570
It's fun.
>spend a ton of time building sanctuary
>use it as my hub / storage / workbench area
>drop all my scrap there
>much later in the game decide to start building up the smaller settlements
>realize they don't have any scrap
That really killed any momentum I had.
>>316587214
I have the opposite criticism. The Settlement wall is impossible to connect and I find that frustrating. I've seen a couple great examples in this thread.
I think I'll just use the Red Rocket area for the base if I decide to waste more time on it.
>>316587434
Wait, does my defense have be a mixture of turrets and wooden posts or something?
>>316587603
Can you elaborate?
>>316587860
no, but the triangle could be placed on your water supply, food source or whatever
At first it was really fun to build a small village for the fuckers to live in, but after a while, I realized it was all completely pointless. You get nothing out of it, the villagers are unresponsive, you see no reactions, sometimes they don't even sleep in the fucking beds that I made for them. Now I just use Sanctuary just to keep materials and upgrade weps/armor. I give no fucks if the moral goes down or up or whatever.
>>316587889
I get enjoyment out of building a base.
That's what fun means.
>>316587701
you can get a perk that'll allow you to have settlers work as "traders" and share resources between settlements. that way, all the crap you've accumulated in your main settlement becomes available.
>>316588025
It's definitely placed on defense.
I'll try and get it up to 100 and see if that's good enough.
>the building element of FO4 is literally a ripoff of a FO3 mod
>the FO3 mod was a buggy piece of shit
>somehow the official FO4 version is even worse
>>316588334
Are you surprised?
You still have to download an unofficial patch/mod to get rid of most bugs after all this time. I mean, they're literally too lazy/dumb to steal these changes an implement them in an official patch.
Does wall around do anything at all?
Can i use anything like metal walls etc.?
you can make cool buildings if you're patient enough
i turned red rocket truck stop into a multi level fortress
you guys must be fucking retards if you cant get a roof on the right side of the wall
Any model replacements yet? Should be easy enough, size is constant for all of them.
And why the heck can't i make windows? I can do better with an axe than those "survivors" with multiple tools.
>>316588618
It's doesn't change the fact it looks like a junk pile.
>>316588334
The sheer audacity is astonishing.
>looking for sweet place to settle
>find a secluded spot in an alley
>2 alleys are entrances
>easy to defend as fuck
>build it up
>decide its too small
>go to Drive-in
>wall off the entire thing
>decide its too large, not comfy, move on
>find boat house
>medium size
>wall of the entire thing
>no materials for a beacon
such is life in the wasteland
>>316588718
so does everything else in the wasteland
>>316588334
Why don't they steal more popular mods? LIke i don't know - UNOFFICIAL PATCH
who hot rod flames powerarmor here?
>>316588334
The FO3 mod was pretty fun, since you could actually build wherever you liked. The building wasn't as good in terms of placement, but I actually thing they sort of implemented the FO4 system AND scavenging system (without the retarded border limit) and also made a version for Skyrim.
They literally took a mod and claimed it as their own.
>>316588150
Oh, neat. I guess I'll have to invest in that perk at some point, then; I've largely been ignoring the settlements until now.
>>316588873
Now get the chainsword and you're a real space marine.
>>316567640
>door holes
Door frames
>>316588990
>chainsword
where?
>>316588813
Beth probably find the unofficial patch insulting. It shows how a few guys, in their spare time, can fix Beth's game, doing things their huge professional team are utterly incapable of.
>>316589127
It's a ripper upgrade
>>316589334
i havent found a ripper yet, and i just turned level 31
>>316567640
THERE ARE NO INDOOR DOORWAYS
>>316589387
There's one in West Everett Estates.
>>316588150
You can also get a perk that allows you to fast travel while over encumbered. So you can just pick all your shit up from the workbench fast travel to the new place and dump it.
>>316588990
but i want to be a grey knight with my hammer and incinerator
>>316568071
Walls have to be facing a certain way to attach a roof. The side with the wood and shit on it has to be facing inside.
10/10 intelligence. Still not smart enough to put two bits of wood together without a gab. Good thing is. Modders are going to love it so looking forward to the building mods.
>>316589472
any hints on where that place is? i only need an approximate
>>316590024
west
Well hey, at least the building mechanic helped calm the nerves of an autistic frenchie in the wake of a national tragedy.
Right?
What do you think of my armor station?
Doesn't have enough armors to fill it up though.
>>316590648
good
>tfw gpu keeps crashing with fallout 4
amd never again
So how are the Atom people even alive?
any quests there? I really wanna kill em all for being so bat shit insane
>>316590648
Nice RPG elements, anon!
>>316576506
Possibly, I ran across a single BOS guy who was fighting something before I found him, he was left with a sliver of health so I one shot him and took all his shit.
I figured because no-one saw me kill him I got away with it.
>>316567640
Daily reminder FO4 building is a blatant ripoff of Rust's building and Newman is suing the shit out of Beth.
>>316591768
Does F4's work anywhere near as well or look anywhere near as good?
Not that I'm saying the Rust one is good.
![F6BA4F38C22A8AA4633AB4A144C13D23FB6F1027[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iuOJqOH.jpg "F6BA4F38C22A8AA4633AB4A144C13D23FB6F1027[1]")
Fuck gravity
>>316592585
It just works.
>Starting building in Starlight Drive In
>wow, 15 people, thought the radiation would have scared them off
>start building a fence around the radiation pool
>put on my Hazmat suit and start scrapping the junk in and around the pool
>scrap the barrels
>radiation vanishes
>fuck, it was the barrels? The water is OK now?
>scrap my entire fence
I am not a clever man
>hey man we have raider problems help!
>hey man thanks for killing those raiders, we'll join the minutemen now
>by the way we have zero (0) defences lol your problem now make some turrets fuckboi
>>316592793
i built a house over that puddle and put a water thing in there, then i put a fence around that hole
>>316573648
I want to remove the Height and Size limits and build a giant cube skyscraper that reaches above the Prydwyn.
>>316567640
Is there a mod that gives you infinite resources yet? Getting bored of the game, but building shit is pretty fun.
>>316595778
Add resources to your inventory with the consol?
>>316572123
enjoy your loud BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR noise throughout the building
>>316571286
People used Roman buildings for hundreds of years after they were built. If it works it works man.
>>316595778
Go into console and type tgm and you can build without using up any resources.
>>316573648
Where is this?
>>316596405
boston
Never have I ever been bored playing a fallout game like Fallout 4. Not even the slowness of of the first 2-3 hours of FO1 was this dull. Storys boring as fuck, characters are meh, the exploration doesn't even reward you as much if at all besides fighting borderlands named variants of the same enemy. Its not even like FO3 where I can beat the game entirely in 1 week and laugh my ass off from shitty dialog and retarded plotted quests. This game is abysmal
>>316592585
>pathologic.jpg
>>316572384
Only in the same settlement.
Once all settlements are unlocked, whats the comfiest? I have the first 5 or 6 or so, and Sanctuary so far seems the best to build up.
>>316596797
rad racket of course. once you get a nice wall around it you can build some cosy shit on the roof.
>trying to get all fancyshmancy
thats why youre fuckin up. just build some run down shanty fort and call it a day. you dont need doors and all that bullshit, just guard posts.
>not putting the guard post directly in front of the door Fallout Tactics style
i shigs
Are there any mods out yet with good prebuilt houses? I don't want to build any myself with the bullshit vanilla builder, and the pre-fab buildings suck.
>>316597083
>just build some run down shanty fort
This. If you try and make shit look too clean and tidy it looks retarded and unnatural, just go fuckin willy nilly, the more lopsided and dilapidated it looks the comfier.
>>316596797
Im using Sanctuary, Hangmans Alley, The Castle and Spectacle Island.
I think i also got the whole map covered with artillery this way.
>>316590309
how do people like this even exist.
>>316596485
I feel the same way, I have no motivation to start it up most of the time.
>>316596304
neat. I'll try it out when I get home. Any way to get past the amount of stuff you can build in one area? Or at least the height limit?
>>316597857
Apparently there's a mod already out but I haven't used it yet
>>316584226
No, you don't get to decide who you play as at all, everyone plays either the husband or the wife with a preset personality.
I just played a bit as the female character.
Man, this voiceacting is so much better.
>>316599345
Yeah she's really good
>>316589890
I thought this too but if you use an upper-floor you can attach it just fine.
>>316567640
it is horrible, i tried one thime and gave up, now i just stack things in the settlements
Anyone else here retarded and couldn't figure out you had to build a foundation first before walls?
>>316600520
I mean, you didn't have to. Would look a lot better but it's not a requirement.
>>316575993
meaty
Captcha: select all images with steaks
>>316579464
Theres one on the third floor of a house west ofSalem
No idea why it's there, but it is. Lying in wait.
>>316585198
Oh, I laughed
Anyone else who actually prefers the new perk system? In the prefer games you could get max lockpicking/science/whatever in the first few levels, now you actually have to work for it.
>>316595778
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/68/?
Jeez its like you didnt go to the nexus on the day it came out.
>>316596797
I use the Red Rocket truck stop. I like having the garage door.
build your fucking floors first and learn the mat trick, it will save you so much struggle
>>316601380
I think It'd be cool if it lowered the level requirement if you're over the SPECIAL requirement.
>size limit
Fucking bullshit i should be able to build as much as i want. Also the height limit is way too low
>>316593074
That's kind of the point of the minutemen though. You're a volunteer militia, not the NCR.
>>316567640
If you want to build shit play Sim whatever for maximum autism I guess. Building elements in games that aren't built around them are always bad.
>>316601380
I very much like it. I'm having trouble planning how exactly I'm going to build my character, most of the Perks are pretty good and it actually feels like I'm not great at everything. My stealth ability is still nearly zero, I can't pick any locks or hack any terminals, my skill with guns is poor, but I can manage a settlement, handle laser weapons well and punch the fuck out of things.
In the previous games (both Fallout and Elder Scrolls), it was pretty simple to know what I was going to pick as it was so easy to max out everything, leveling up all Skills (which were the primary factor in how good you were at something) to 100 took little effort and most Perks were useless. Always becoming not just a jack of all trades, but a master of all trades pretty early on into the game.
Instead of grinding up to Level 275 or whatever to finally become good at everything, I'm more likely to make a new character and try a different set of perks (and take a different story route) so I can experience the game in a different way.
>>316596304
>>316597857
There is one limitation of TGM building. It gives you 999 of everything while in God Mode, but that's also 999 caps. You can't build the Rank 3 Stores which require 1000 caps. Everything else is available, though.
What did she mean by this?
>>316602459
Man, lockpicking and computer hacking are pretty essential skills. Experience and good loot and getting to shut down turrets or take shortcuts. Those were the first perks I took in the game.
What's the best build early game? Is it like Fallout NV so you increase your intelligence? Where should I put my perks?
>>316602958
Whenever I find a turret control computer in this game, it's always AFTER I've had to destroy the turret to get past. I don't know if it's just me.
>>316602958
With Nick around, I leave the hacking to him. Just gotta hope random chance doesn't have him fail a Master lock.
I've actually seen very few locks that were above Novice level. I'd pick up Piper and bring her around to take care of any advanced locks I noticed.
Although now that I have Curie, I'll probably put a point or two into each cracking skill since she can do neither... after I get a few other perks I want.
>>316603336
Yes, the terminal is almost always behind the turret.
And really, the two cracking skills have yet to be necessary. Anything that was required to get through, there would be a way around or a key for it nearby. All I'm missing out on is some loot.
>>316602950
what weapon is that?
>>316603863
Chinese sword.
You can get it from the weapon store in Diamond City.
>>316603863
Chinese Officer Sword, I believe.
>>316603943
>>316603957
danke, I played quite a bit and havent run into one
>>316568482
If you find the "Picket Fence" magazines, you unlock more stuff to build.
As a heads up if anyone doesn't know, if you hold the E use key etc and scroll with the mouse wheel you can raise and lower items like fence posts etc.
>>316567640
Place a mini square floor tile in front of it.
>>316604226
uh, there's a super mutant on your lawn
>>316604070
I need to know the location of all of these.
Those and all the tattoo and hairstyle magazines.
>>316571131
Doesn't do jack with food and water, senpai. Only lets you share your building pool.
>>316604315
It's okay, he's housebroken.
>>316571902
Fuck me that picture is cool
>>316604315
That's Strong.
Is there really no way for me to overview my settlers and see who is and isn't assigned?
Do I really have to strip my people naked just so I know the people in their undies are actually not freeloaders?
>>316571049
Nope.
I've built some shops and assigned people to them. The tool tip said they generate income, where can I collect my income caps?
>Give my settlers laser rifles.
>They run at ghouls with their fists and die.
>>316601380
It's fucking terrible. Most of the perks are shit and the game repeatedly bottlenecks your progression with its arbitrary level requirements. Characters all feel samey as fuck since they're at the very least effective with every weapon from the get-go. The perks themselves are bland as fuck.
I don't suppose you can respec your char. I only have 1 charisma and want to get the perks. If not I think I'll just stick to exploring.
WHERE DO I FIND CIRCUITRY AND PORCELAIN
I just want to build a beacon to attract more shitty settlers.
>>316604843
You can increase charisma.
>>316604843
You can use perk points to increase your SPECIAL stats.
>>316571790
Apparently you didn't read it at all, that's the wrong comment dumbass.
anyone know if the only way enemies can enter is through the bridge
>>316571217
Are you talking about the building or bethesda as a whole.
>>316604843
Bring up character creation with the console.
>>316605451
what's the command for this?
>>316604924
Porcelain is like toilets, bathtubs, bowls, ashtrays, etc.
I don't remember circuitry. Probably robots and electric devices
But when building, select the beacon and hit T I think to Tag. This way, every item in the world that was porcelain or circuitry will have a magnifying glass next to the name. It really helps
Is there a set list of stuff you should bring for a new settlement? It enrages me I had to fasttravel back to get copper to make a recruitment beacon, then fasttravel again to get cloth for beds, why isnt there enough to scrap at every settlement to get it started on its own...
>>316605597
I forgot, you can google it.
Why am I not allowed to put doors in houses?
I mean the ones that are left that you can't take down.
I just wanna put a door there and not give a shit about building but I can't even do that.
>>316604924
hotplates, telephones.. you can find a little at the first red rocket truckstop.
>>316604589
When you're looking at an NPC, the station they're assigned to will also be highlighted... however said thing would have to be in your line of sight to see it.
I intend on outfitting each NPC with clothing relevant to what task I'm assigning them.
>>316606190
Do newcomers just automatically fill farming jobs? I come back every time I see a new settler and can never find where they are.
It's really weird that the build mode doesn't even have like a waiting room or a holding cell.
r8 my piper
Should've just copied the phys gun from gmod or something.
>>316606403
New Settlers will be unassigned to do anything. When they're unassigned, they scavenge for various scrap building material you can use. You can build a scavenging station to improve scavenging.
>>316603074
Intelligence just gives +3% exp per point. There are no skill points anymore. It's all about perks, and having the stat required to reach the perks you need. Decide what you absolutely must have to make your build work, and get those stats taking into account that you get 1 free extra stat to put anywhere very early, and every stat has a +1 bobblehead on top of that.
Individual stats are pretty weak, and perks are almost always much more valuable when considering what to do at level up. The only stats I would consider pumping just for their effect alone would be strength for melee damage, charisma for persuasion (you could just wear +cha clothes and savescum though), and maybe perception if you play mostly with vats.
I would say that most people will want to hit 3 strength, 4 perception, and 4 intelligence to unlock armor and gun customization, and lockpicking+hacking.
In my opinion, here are other worthwhile stat breakpoints:
STR = 4 for melee weapon mods, 9 for melee builds on higher difficulties
PER = 5 for explosive crafting/damage, 8 if you're gonna use vats with snipers
END = has a lot of quality of life stuff, but it's one of the best dump stats
CHA = 3 good bonuses for traveling alone (works with dog I think), 6 if you're into settlements
INT = 5 is really good for getting rare materials for mods, 6 will be mandatory if you use energy weapons, 9 for power armor batteries and rad weapons (by the time it's fully upgraded, batteries may not even be a problem anymore though)
AGI = 3 is mandatory for sneak builds, 7 is highly recommended for sneak builds, 6 is very valuable for melee builds on higher difficulties, as is 9 for much sillier reasons. most will probably stick to 3 or go to 5 if they use action points a lot (sprinting, sniper aim steadying, vats)
LCK = 3 is a little investment for free damage, 5 is a great perk for free exp regardless of your INT but not really worth building around, everything past that is amazing if you use vats
Im hoping they either patch it or someone makes a good mod for it. Ive barely touched building in my 35 hours so far, but from what Ive done it was pretty frustrating at times
I'd put some effort into it if it mattered, but when it gives you say 20 building locations to work with I just can't be bothered.
The only care I've put into my settlement is making a farm and purifying water to make the ingredients for easy adhesive.
Can I make a settlement for just like 2-4 people?
I don't want to make a big town full of no-name NPC's wandering around aimlessly.
Will I be shooting myself in the foot if I do? Like do less NPC's mean it will be easier for raiders to kill everything?
>>316592585
Laughed at this for a solid sixty seconds.
Goddamn there needs to be a fast scrap or something, and I wish you could remove every shitty house rather than just the ones that are collapsed.
>>316608210
Hey idiot. Go up to any crafting station (preferably one you like to use) hit transfer, then hit store all junk. Congratulations, you just scraped all your junk.I just realized half way through you might have been talking about scraping objects in a settlement, in which case I agree
>>316606597
0/10 doesn't have a bullet through her head.
>>316608551
He said both of those things, idiot.
>>316607084
Well, there's no need to build one, let alone several. You can pick your favorite locale and focus all of your building on that one area, or not give a shit at all and ignore it. You can completely ignore the Minutemen, too. The only times you need to build would be if it were quest-related.
I prefer the drive in theater since it's a good patch of flat ground with a pool of water in the middle, just right for the huge water purifier, and the big screen makes for a great overwatch point.
>>316608068
Yes. You can invite a bunch of people with the recruitment tower, then take the tower down and send some excess people to other settlements. There's no detriment to having a select few, you only need assign one or two people to crops and everything else can be covered by automated means.
I find 3 people to be an ideal number. Just one water pump to cover 3 Water, six little 0.5 crop items for three Food, a turret or two on an elevated point for defense, then build whatever else to make them happy. Most of my settlements are more like small outposts with all of the crafting stations, two stores and a Power Armor station at each. One person assigned to crops, two assigned to the stores.
>>316608551
You fucking wot nigger? I'm talking about the shitty picket fences that are all lying around and the rusted cars and all the backyard junk, fucking annoying to go to each individual picket fence and fence post when you there could be a, "Scrap all objects connected to this?" thing.
>>316608551
Hey retard. When you just throw it all in storage, recipes will waste all the other possible resources from an item if the current recipe doesn't use them. GONE, not added to stock. So if it chooses to use a robot piece or something with good scrap and your recipe just uses the steel, say good bye to your copper and whatnot.
Does anyone know where the crack for this is?
>>316581305
Newton would like to have a word with you.
>>316584226
1int build here, NOPE. NONE.
>A imported mod from fallout 3/nv is just as buggy when a crack team of AAA devs promising IT JUST WORKS still has the same problem as one autist
>>316608829
>half the game is empty space that bethesda expects you to make interesting with copy pasted settlers
and this is the GOTD
>>316590309
>i didn't want to hear about wee-wee-le-french dying so I played a game where I can kill americans and now I feel better
You asked for those shitskins, you live (and die) with it
>>316567640
just make the fucking items be able to clip through each other and fuck turning items by clicking the mouse buttons, should just have to hold e and turn mouse for precise turning
fuck todd im so glad i didn't pay for this game
Is there a command to respec my shit?
I feel like I've made a mistake dumping points for 7 AGI, because I didn't read that it doesn't affect anything beside VATS.
>>316578535
Console commands I guess.
>>316608876
That was confirmed a myth, the inventory just doesn't update properly.
I don't see a single perk for shotguns. What am I supposed to use to increase their damage? Rifleman?
Someone please post the vault tec rep having the clipboard in the shield slot
How the ever loving fuck can you create internal walls for rooms.
This building shit needs to be fixed pronto.
I expect modders will be the ones to do it since it seems like building is a tacked on gimmick that Bethesda PR made for the Garry's Mod market
>>316610393
I figured it out to cover the walls on my stairs. When you want to connect two perpendicular walls, leave one space for a wall between them, place a wall, then the next wall will snap to that one making a corner.
>>316574674
get that mod that removes the limit.
Why did they add concrete, but only let you make wooden and steel structures?
>>316609260
Said "empty spaces" are fairly small plots of land that aren't empty. They usually have a quest or boss encounter related to the space before you can build there, and a lot of the environment can be cleared out for resources.
>>316610915
and how does everything you said not amount to "big empty space?"
>>316611015
It should be pretty clear. Are you illiterate? There is content already there before you are allowed to make it into empty space and build there.
>>316611208
A token boss battle =/= Content
The world space should be full of shit, since you're there all the time. Boss battles etc should only take place within zones inside of them like buildings etc, or outside forts that have life outside of battles/quest
why can't I keep stupid ass settlers from going in my house and my bed? They've got their own shit but won't go away.
GUYS IT'S PERFECT
PERFECT GAME GUYS
10/10 GUYS
GOTAY FOREVER
SO GLAD TO HAVE PAID MONEY FOR THIS GUYS
HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE IT
JUST IGNORE THE FLAWS AND IT'S PERFECT
NO OTHER GAME DOES THIS GUYS
MODS WILL FIX IT GUYSSo fucking glad I didn't buy this game.
>>316611406
Assign them specifically to select beds so that your own house's bed has a red symbol indicating that no NPC would go there.
>can VATS ghouls before they get up off the floor
Don't do it
Don't you fucking do itwhere is that comic
>>316611406
Pay 15$ for the YOUR WAY dlc
included is brahmin-proof roofs, roofs that won't collapse due being flat, walls that don't have holes in them, better snapping frames, and one FREE NEW housing style. (New styles available every month for 10$!)
>>316571790
uh... yeah... this...
>>316611482
keep sperging young one.
>>316573648
my base
top layer has recruitment tower, sirens, 2nd has my own room, 3rd has sleeping quarters, 3rd has bar and cafe, bottom layer has tiolets and break room!
>>316611539
>damaging limbs makes legendary guys mutate
why
Hello friends, I'm currently working on some objects for housing, what kind of shit do you want ? Currently I'm thinking of some walls and shit made to look like old aircraft hulls and holiday shit made out of scrap.
I want the 4chan audience.
>>316611829
I've fought an assaultron and he fucking mutated or some shit after I almost killed him. The fuck?
>>316573648
I built nearly exactly the same thing, in exactly the same spot
I too was bummed about the height limit. I'd been gathering materials for like 10 hours and was going to build into the stratosphere
>>316612302
There's a mod on nexus for that.
>>316575281
Todd can't keep getting away this!
I think bethesda dropped the ball, they could have literally started their own mint if they introduced microtransactions for the building system.
Allow you to plan the buildings out and assign gangs of workers to them, and then have an amount of time assessed to their production.
>>316611775
also made a huge wall around the entire base
nothing can even get close
>>316605398
>anything being able to fix bethesda as a whole
o im laffin m8
>>316605597
showracemenu, iirc
>>316573648Tim?
>>316605597
showlooksmenu player
make sure you tfc too so you can actually see the changes you want to make
>>316612795
Todd could get the jared treatment.
I'm very sorry about having to do this, but read this Reddit post for good building tips that the game never bothers to mention, including how to clip objects into walls that makes building solid walls easier.
Again, sorry about the Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3shl9i/fallout_4_tips_everyone_should_know/
It doesn't always tell me I'm getting exp when my follower kills something. Does this mean I'm not getting exp and need to actually tag a mob before my follower kills it to get exp, or am I getting it just without the notice?
>>316613280
look at him and laugh, if our mods weren't literally reddit and personalities you would get banned for your retarded nature.
>>316613630
>It's the reddit menace!
cool meme
>mfw haven't even been to Diamond City yet because I've been building stupid shit
>>316613280
thanks anon, some shit I didn't know in there
>>316613618
You need to deal more damage than them for the kill to count as yours.
>>316610206
Shotguns do fall under non-automatic rifles according to the game. In addition, semi-auto is considered non-automatic (automatic is strictly weapons that continuously fire as long as you hold the trigger down) as far as perks go, so even the combat shotgun would still fall under Rifleman.
>>316613804
I'm 30 hours into the game and was only in top half of the map. Wasn't even building anything.
>>316588051
it's just making places you feel safe in
apart from diamond city and Bos shelters, the settlements are the only places you can chill and feel semi-safe, and you become invested in making the settlements safer and re=populating the wasteland so you don't feel so alone
How do I equip settlers with better shit?
>>316614832
>repopulating wasteland with nameless copy pasted people with no personality or purpose but to rake a garden
might as well commit sedoku
>>316614428
>Shotguns do fall under non-automatic rifles according to the game. In addition, semi-auto is considered non-automatic (automatic is strictly weapons that continuously fire as long as you hold the trigger down) as far as perks go, so even the combat shotgun would still fall under Rifleman.
That's kind of silly. Thanks for the info.
I kind of wanted to go for shotguns+melee. Do you know if basher would be nearly as worthwhile as using regular melee weapons? Does Rifleman also increase the damage of snipers?
I wish there were more perks related to shotguns than this.
>>316596797
I find castle the comfiest
>natural walls for easy defense
>rooftop safety
>your own armory
>easy supplies for growth
>close to boston so you have a fairly safe haven to come back to
castle is literally 10/10
>>316614927
Talk to them and Trade<
When their inventory is open, Press T/Y/Triangle on the apparel/weapon in their inventory to Equip/Unequip items on them (as seen on the bottom of the screen).
This works on followers and settlers and dogmeat.
>get to the Red Rocket gas station
>park my power armor in the garage
>build a few shelves for storing shit that i might need later on
>build a junk fence surrounding the are
>build a few water pumps into a small corner behind a hidden fence
>plant a few crops
>build 3-4 turrets to defend the area
>leave it be and return if i need to pick up something or fix/craft shit
Is this enough? I just want to explore and do missions.
>>316616298
more then enough
I usually scrap everything in red rocket and sanctuary to use elsewhere
>>316615190
I wish the Castle weren't a pentagon. Lining up floor boards perfectly to create a makeshift walkways to repair the broken walls was a pain.
>>316616298
Yes, as long as your Defense value is higher than your combined Food+Water, raiders will fuck off.
As long as the Bed, Power, Food and Water values are at least as high as the number of people, that's all good.
And if there are no people settling there, you don't have to bother with any of that.
You can do whatever else you want with the place.
Is it true that you get Power Armour early or is it just for that one quest in the beginning?
>>316616670
I just put walls in front of the broken ones
Is Bethesda simply renamed fallout something else and saw itself as a "spirtual successor" to canon fallout I wouldn't have nearly a big hangup about liking what they have done.
Why the fuck is this stupid shit in FO? Its literally saying "we want the minecraft autist audience"
>>316572217
they should have made the whole game revolving around that. No Main quest, just a guy trying to build communities in a deadly wasteland, with the option of exploring the wasteland for supplies or old tech to build defenses or medical equipment... the exploration sequences would have also you encounter interesting npcs and uncover super menaces like mutants armies or whatever
>Why is nobody talking about this? Building things is a nightmare with the retarded snapping.
Because that's probably what most people expected.
>>316616845
Yes, you get Power Armor very early. Most players will stumble into their hometown and then down to Concord where the quest to get the first junky old armor is.
Getting a suit of armor is pretty important (and you can find/buy/earn them from a couple different places), almost necessary to navigate the highly irradiated Glowing Sea.
Power Armor has energy and maintenance requirements to keep working or else you'd be down to just a simple armor frame with no armor benefits. Fusion cores to power the thing, and the six individual parts have durability that must be repaired.
You can eventually end up with a big garage of power armor frames with whatever armor you stick on them.
>>316615071
Melee is very very strong with high strength, and shotguns end up being kind of pointless with them since you've already got close-quarters covered. I haven't tested it, but I can't imagine bash damage matching real melee damage, and since you invested 8 points in strength for Basher you may as well just go real melee anyway. Melee also tends to have more range than people expect, because you can use vats to teleport to hit enemies like 10 feet away. Blitz would make it even further, but it's quite an investment.
I feel like melee basically just needs to focus on getting to a target without dying, which stuff like Moving Target covers, while Rooted can keep you safe while you're not moving. On normal, even those might be overkill defenses.
And yeah, sniper rifles fall under rifleman. At least I haven't seen an auto sniper yet, although I might have just ignored them.
How can I make protectrons protect me? It seems regardless of what personality type I set them as, they attack me
Can you build anywhere?
Like could I just expand on existing towns, or build outside a dungeon or some shit?
>>316617519
The terminal will just put them on their predetermined patrol.
You'd need to hack them with the Int 8 Perk, Rank 2 and 3.
The real question is why was this bullshit introduced in the first place
Are Bathesda trying to ride the wave of all the DayZ/Minecraft clones?
>>316617769
Exactly that. This is pretty much like a glorified version of just having a tiny homebase where you can store your stuff in.
>>316568907
>no way to properly manage your settlers at a glance
True, use the hat-system to know who does what
>settlers don't auto-assign to empty positions
They actually do.. when attracting new settlers, you'll see that they tend to plants
>only two types of guard checkpoint made from wood
Turrets are love.
>armed guards and settlers attacking ghouls and super mutants with their fists instead of their weapons
They need ammo for their weapons...
I also wonder what the use of the feed trough is... some stuff seems pretty pointless.
how the fuck do I access perks below level 4 on the chart? I cant scroll down and it's driving me fucking nuts
When I scrap a modded weapon do the mods get scrapped too?
Can I just switch them onto another weapon? I also see a lot of mods just sitting in my inventory taking weight and I don't know what to do with them
>>316588062
you're a retard.
developers insert an half-assed, meaningless and buggy mechanics - AT LEAST I DERIVE FUN FROM POINTLESSLY DOING IT THAT'S WHAT MATTERS
>>316618337
Move mouse down.
>>316618337
You just hover your mouse on the bottom of the chart.
>>316618337
Mouse cursor to bottom of screen
>>316618494
jesus fucking christ
I made it all the way to 18 thinking it was going to unlock or something
why the hell would I mouse down and not scroll or use arrow keys
>>316618631
why didnt you try different functions instead of none at all at the perk screen.
>>316588873
I'm with ya anon.
>>316618763
I did try different functions
moving the mouse to the bottom of the screen isnt intuitive at all. theres nothing that indicates putting it down there would do anything. might as well have expected me to dance in my chair and sing a chant to make it scroll down.
whatever, Ill use the console to give me perks I should have already had
>>316592585
It's obviously a feature. Just when you run out of room on the ground, you start building up to obtain more people.
>>316611482
WHO CARES IF THE BUILDING MINIGAME IS INCOMPLETE I'M HAVING FUN. WHO CARES IF THE RPG MECHANICS HAVE BEEN SCALED BACK EVEN FURTHER. WHO CARES IF THE PLOT IS SHIT. WHO CARES IF THE DIALOGUE IS BAD. WHO CARES IF THE GAMEPLAY IS BLAND. WHO CARES IF QUESTS IS JUST GO TO X AND KILL Y\TALK TO Y. JESUS CHRIST CAN'T YOU JUST HAVE FUN?
Signed, Fallout Fan Boy
>>316619046
By not being a retard and trying things? Hell, even right-click and drag works.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong at this quest?
I have built all the things and I have enough power but it still won't workalso FUCK Ingram for always "working" on the relay dish so I can't use it
To recruit paladan dance do I need to continue the main story or can you do it before? Right now I'm repeatedly doing tech retrieval missions in hopes it will change something
>>316619870
It looks like you're trying to link the power from the generators through the terminal and to the other things. That doesn't work.
You gotta attach each one of them to the generators directly.
>>316601758
mat trick?
>>316620771
still nothing
>>316620935
You don't need to link all of the parts together with wires. That probably fucks up the logic gates or power distribution. And again, it doesn't appear as though you have a direct line to the dish - it's going from the terminal to the dish.
Just link the generators together and one generator to each thing.
>>316621558
I got it now,
It worked by building all pieces individually without power, then powering them up one by one and then connecting both with the relay dish onlyfuck me, why is the design so shitty
Why don't my settlements have a shared workbench inventory? I connected two of them and shit's not working.
>>316603640
What really pisses me the fuck off is the sheer number of useless terminals and locks. You can't turn bots back on their owners and a huge number of terminals/locks are pointless because either the key is right there or you can literally just find an easier way around.
I shit you not, I found a locked door in a house that was one part of a destroyed wall. You could literally just walk through the gaping hole next to the fucking advanced lock
>>316588062
same here, building stuff is fun as fuck
Now fallout needs destructive elements
>>316623542
Well, that's a not uncommon thing in any RPG. If something is locked, there's almost always a second way to get through or around it in case you don't have the means to pick it. Instead of applying a Skill that you've trained to give yourself easy access, you explore for the other options.
Probably not the same hole as yours, but there was a locked door to some corner store and the alternate way in was a small hole in the ceiling on the second floor occupied by a couple mutants and tripwires.
>>316571129
Go up to them in workshop mode. The ui at the bottom will tell you what key "Move" is assigned to. Hit it and pick a settlement.
>>316624550
he has a point though
I mean, why would I put 4 points into hacking when it has l i t e r a l l y no payoff
>>316623440
It's bugged, but when you're building things it shows the right amounts.
>>316568071
put wood flooring on to attach shit at the corners.
>>316624550
I found one in a quest.
Unlock this master door
OR
Walk through the passageway with tons of laser tripwires and 3 machine gun turrets.
>30+ food, beds, water etc.
>100+ defense
>80 happiness
>But only 14 fucking settlers
I should just scrap these defense posts, there's twice as many turrets as there are people now, and the people just man the shops and the crops.
>>316624847
To make the many occasions where it would pay off, pay off.
Most recent example for me. I had to go rescue some person who was sealed behind a Master terminal and Nick couldn't crack it. As a result, I had to go the long way around through a narrow tunnel system packed with supermutants and turrets. Burned through a good number of stimpaks.
When I got to the other side... it was a second Master terminal locking another door. You could see the hostage sitting there through both doors, a real kick in the dick. Nick couldn't get that one either. I had to go searching for the alternate way in - took a while to find a little yellow holotape with the code for the door.
If I had master hacking Perk, it would have taken one minute, no stimpaks or ammo, not twenty minutes and a bunch of my resources.
>>316625537
Is your Charisma 4?
>>316608829
>there is a big pool of water in the middle of that settlement
>"fuck, I want to build long houses but the ground is uneven that funnels into the rad pool"
>just stairs up wards and start the platforming there.
FUCK why didn't I think of that.
For some reason ceilings will only snap to the outside of the walls, not the inside. Am i retarded or does anyone else have this problem?
>>316625546
that's what I mean
If can just kill a mutant and loot the passcode then I don't need to put 4 points into hacking
I loot so much ammo I don't even know what to do with it and most enemies die in 1 or 2 hits
>>316625537
More people mean more scavenging.
Every day, people unassigned to the crops or stores will randomly collect junk and materials and put them in your workshop's storage, more if you assign them to scavenging tables.
I don't even know why it's in the game.
Does anyone actually enjoy this shit? Grinding materials so you can use some shitty interface to command mindless plebs to get materials.
I didn't buy fallout to play a shitty version of sims. I wish they had spent that development time on adding something meaningful and fun to the game.
>>316625635
That's what the two Wood Floor Foundations are for, anon. The concrete block/wooden struts can sink into the ground and you can place them at any height, letting you build elevated platforms and flat spaces.
>>316612701
Do you noclip these walls or something? its so perfect
>>316626005
So I don't get food. Are you supposed to assign someone to every fucking plant? And how do I even know who's assigned where? It's so fucking infuriating.
>>316625612
Nope, shit's sitting at 9 with maxed local leader.
>>316625861
The problem is that I can't get more people.
>>316626203
One person can produce a total of 6 Food.
Assign one person to a single crop object and they will also cover the nearest crops that total 6 Food (twelve 0.5 crops or six 1.0 crops).
>>316612701
i did that too.
i still want to know how it handles in a real fight.
i hope they don't spawn inside because bethesda
>>316599643
She's actually so terrible she is the worst thing about the entire game, not even an exaggeration.
ITT: people playing on console and PC who don't know you can move pieces with more than just looking around.
to be fair the game doesn't really tell you these things.
>>316626510
Thanks for clearing that up. I just don't get why the game never explained this shit. How am I supposed to know that? You assign a person to a plant and it just says "assigned". Nothing else, no indication of what's actually happening.
>>316626532
Enemies will spawn outside of the green perimeter, usually at the expected designated entrance(s) like the sole wooden bridge to Sanctuary.
>>316626626
Elaborate?
>>316626626
The game literally explains nothing to you, nor do the in game help menus, nor is there a fucking actual manual because its 2015 and no one makes manuals for games anymore.
Bethesda manages to dumb their games down for casuals while still failing to even explain how their unintuitive yet brain dead systems work. Its actually pretty impressive how incompetent they are as a developer.
Its kind of a shame too because the concept is cool, and it could have been really fun if even the smallest amount of effort was put into it.
>>316626381
i got 14 for my settlement.
i kind of want to ignore all the others mostly because i don't give a fuck about them.
all my trade lines get fucked over all the time
My stab at making Red Rocket
how do you set up supply lines between your bases?
>>316626626
are you talking about being able to rotate pieces while standing still? because im pretty sure everyone knows that.
but it doesnt stop the game from forcing pieces to snap together or allow you to step pieces down however you want. thats what people are annoyed with.
>>316626728
i have 3 entrances with turrets lining them.
i wanted to have other ways to leave other than the bridge.
i just haven't had that place attacked
the other stupid farm keeps being attacked. they were attacked and i didn't know about it until the message said that i failed to protect it.
>>316626923
Where are those big gates in the build screen? I can only see doors
>>316626857
>The game literally explains nothing to you
I honestly believe Todd is so fucking full of his own shit that he believed that "everything just works" literally and that nobody would need help understanding this shit.
>>316627114
It's under Construction > Fences > Junk Fences
>>316590309
>maybe war never change but dont let the war change us
>>316627304
thanks m8
>>316627134
>had to look up how to make supply lines
god this game needs a better management for settlements.
pull up a fucking list and just assign faggots rather than try to figure out where the fuck they are and telling them specifically where they should fucking go
>>316590309
>he thinks using drugs to escape his problems is weak
>but using fiction to do so isn't
they are both pretty pathetic desu senpai
What's the quickest way to get wood/steel if youve already broke down all the shit in sanctuary? i'm trying to rebuild castle but i'm running out of materials every 5 minutes
Giving away a few copies of Fallout 4 for pc add me http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198251035280/
>>316627504
Nah, using drugs is worse. Come the fuck on man.
>no noclip in build mode
>can't float in build mode
>enemies can attack you in build mode
Its like they literally just tacked on the building shit at the very very end and said fuck it.
Is there any way to make the scrap fences snap together on consoles? Or cause them to clip? I spent hours building a perimeter of scrap fences due to the amount of time it took me to find the sweet spot to place them down as close as I could. It still looks so shoddy with all the gaps and floating.
The fence with the small tires poking out at either side are especially useless.
Would the fence even matter if your defence stat is large enough to never be attacked? Or is it just a reduced risk?
>>316627780
>expecting anything from bethesda
>the company that has used an engine thats been outdated for a decade
Literally the same bugs that show up in morrowind had showed up in every game since.
it really is, I hope they fix it
yesterday I was trying to fit a small piece of wall into two big ones and it wouldn't snap for shit even though the size was perfect
also the controls are dog shit
>press e to place shit
>oh you want to place shit here?? too bad your cursor is on top of another thing so I'll just select that shit instead of placing the new thing :^))))))
>press tab to go back
>oh you want to go back??? too bad your cursor is on top of some unrelated shit, do you want to store this to the workshop????
consolized trash
>>316627847
>Would the fence even matter if your defence stat is large enough to never be attacked? Or is it just a reduced risk?
this is also my question.
i also want to know if you automatically lose if you aren't there at the settlement if it's under attack
The tower doesn't really fit though.
>>316628025
what really gets me about the controls are
>press R to scrap this useless shit
>ARE YOU SURE? PRESS ENTER
You either have to move one hand off the mouse or one hand off of wasd to do the most basic function over and over and over and over.
>>316628235
anything that requires enter you can use E as well
>>316628235
you can use e instead of enter in most cases.
>building limits
>cant disable snapping
>junk walls wont seal up gaps
>90% of things that wont place on the ground will suddenly become available to place 3 feet above that spot
>retarded collision means everything that doesnt snap will have stupid gaps or wont place somewhere even a blind man would call clear
>cant place wires through walls/underground so you have wires everywhere
Can't wait for modding to fix this shit. Just a simple console command to disable build restrictions or where you place them would be nice
>>316568115
>tfw you had to set things to spawn in later just to get things to mesh correctly
It was hell making a map, but it was the most fun hell I've ever seen.
>>316626626
Please elaborate what you're talking about. How can you move pieces other than moving around yourself? I don't get what you mean.
>>316628290
>>316628319
thanks senpai. Now I realise ive probably wasted about half my play time.
>>316628357
>junk walls won't seal up gaps
That small wooden wall is your friend
Here is my first little bar and shop area.
Spent honestly half my time on this side of the game, for how terrible the interface is, its the only part of the game I don't hate.
>>316618631
I did the exact same thing (well not all the way to 18, but still). Felt stupid when I figured it out.
>>316623440
You can't see the inventory in the work bench but when you actually build it gives you access to the full resource pool.
Is there a cap on the amount of people you can have in a settlement? two of mine have stopped at 15 settlers.
>>316627701
In either scenario you are using alternative means to cope with life rather than actually facing your problems. Drugs are worse for your physical health, but they both show equal amounts of psychological weakness.
>>316629462
supposed to be 10+cha score
>>316627701
Be honest, how sheltered of a life have you lived? There is nothing wrong with drugs, as long as they are not the rare few that fucking kill you.
>>316567640
>put junk in workshop
>expect it to auto scrap for me if it can
>none of it does
Will the game auto scrap stuff as I need the materials? I know I have more than 4 screws worth of crap hanging out in the box
>>316629583
>all drugs are bad for you
>having fun shows psychological weakness
Jesus fuck you are thick.
>>316577529
Use TGM and build whatever you need
>call my brotherhood of steel vertibird taxi service
>flies straight through the prydwyn
fucking nice
>>316627780
You can noclip in build mode though. If you have something selected in the console you can't noclip for some reason.
>>316629775
Fuck off retard. Using drugs 'to escape' is worse than escaping in fiction. I don't have anything against using drugs in moderation for recreational purposes but once it becomes a crutch in your life that's a bad fucking road to go down.
I just want to not this entire part of the game to exist. I don't want to have to manage settlements. I didn't buy a strategy game
>>316628552
Oh will you honestly just fuck off with the
>le masturr trole
bullshit
God, it's pathetic.
>>316631040
So you are saying that using drugs isnt a problem unless you use them so much it is a problem?
What an amazing insight, glad we have you around.
>>316631185
Then don't play it, none of it is necessary at all.
For me it's the only compelling part of the game.
>>316631646
Am I going to get any messages about shit getting attacked?
>>316628037
I doubt the enemies would spawn if you're not nearby and I'd be surprised if they programmed it to happen. Although that's just a guess because I've never been attacked.
You raised a good point, though. If your settlement only gets attacked if you're nearby then what's the point wasting your build limit on a wall if you can just defend it yourself if you ever DO get attacked.
3/4 of my build limit is made of fences.
>>316631719
yes, you mad or something? play the game or refund it, your choice
>>316631719
Probably not? If you did, why would you care?
I just found a safe you can pick open, and a computer you can use to lock it again.
Infinite exp
>>316631826
the building system is too fucked for me to care until mods are introduced to fix it
I can't refund it because I was hoping to fucking sell the pip boy edition but it came broken and bethesda won't contact me about getting it fixed
>>316631854
I just don't want to get them if I don't want to
if I come back to a bunch of dead people it's whatever
>>316632071
lol what a dumb goose
>>316631757
well i had 4 turrets set up in a farm.
it only had 2 people in it and there was no caution sign next to it, so i thought it was good.
it was attacked and the message didn't appear that said it was attack because it only appears for a fucking second. a while later it said i failed to protect it and both settlers were killed and all the crops and turrets needed to be repaired.
>>316631757
I've never actually seen an attack, or heard anyone talk about it happening, so it may be bugged and not ever happen.
>>316571902
>do all the crap whats his name wants me to in sanctuary
>Hey I think preston wants to talk to you
>talk to preston
>stock lines
Uh oh
can we farm brahmin? Does anything ever attack?
So how many of the quests in FO4 are "go here and kill thing" or "go here and get thing in place that has a bunch of enemies"?
The Minutemen quests have been pretty much nothing but that so far
>>316632491
i think they all are like that.
the BOS missions are that as well
>>316632491
I'd say about 80%.
The Minutemen are an organisation who exist to keep settlements safe from bandits though, so what do you expect?
So do raiders actively attack at all or what? My friend said he was attacked once but I've spent a lot of time in Sanctuary without being attacked so I'm feeling like it doesn't really happen and he was just near the border when some raiders started makin' trouble in his neighborhood.
>>316567640
How do I get food in this game for my settlers?
>>316633059
You get fruit and veggies and you plant them. You can get plenty of tatos from the farm which that nigger first sends you to.
>>316631415
Nah, you understand what I was saying but you just choose to argue instead of accepting you're a fucking idiot.
>>316633059
when you go to one of the camps that you help out harvest some of their crop
>>316632905
I've only had two settlement attacked by Raiders so far in the 10+ hours that I've played
>>316633059
Plant food, assign a settler to pick it.
>>316633281
Was Sanctuary one of them? Maybe Sanctuary is more than just a name.
>>316633384
Nope. It was that one farm that you get sent to first and the Sunshine place
>>316631415
Junkies are the lowest trash. Sorry, but I don't see pale skinny white boys breaking into my house to use my internet connection because of their fiction escapism habit. You're retarded and all drugs are poison.
>Ghoul Problem at Sanctuary Hills
>"A pack of Feral Ghouls has wandered in nearby!"
>location is half way across the map
Why. Also, I'm getting these quests pretty frequently from settlers. This is the third one today
>>316590309
Bs you don't sleep with fallout. Also how can he say we're all French? I'm still alive!!
>>316633923
>ghouls trying to make a name for themselvs
>ghouls still letting this shit happen
>wonder why everybody hates them
same with raiders. people are fucking stupid no matter what they are.
>>316590648
I've been wanting to build one of those.
Probably will once I can build more of the Power Armor Stations to store all my frames.
>>316633923
Make sure your Defense rating is as high as your Food + Water rating combined.
>>316590648
Shit, I just made something like this except mine is much worse.
Stealing your design, m8.
>>316633923
stop doing radiant quests
Do your settlers use the ammo you give them?
>>316571131
That doesn't have anything to do with resources. It just means you can build with the workshop inventory from another settlement.
>>316569273
>>316568907
I give my settles welding goggles and mining hats to let me know I've assigned them to something.
>>316634567
Where do you get Dire quests?
>>316589127
i found one on an npc in gunners plaza
>>316584226
Sorta, I've seen a lot of low-charisma speech options, with regards to lying.
>Who told you about this place?
>"Uhh... I helped... Carl... Out of a bind... And he knew a guy who knew a guy.... and yeah."
There's also the "jerk" options which are hilarious.
I just now got a little alert "Help defend Starlight Drive-In"
So I fast travelled there and it was under attack by a group of Gunners, from all angles.
They were pretty weak though, my turrets fought them off pretty well.
did they remove limb damage?
In New Vegas you could cripple enemies by shooting their legs and make their aim worse by shooting their arms
is this in fallout 4? I can't seem to cripple anyone
>>316635594
It most definitely is, it's hilarious to blow off legs and watch them either sit there shooting or try and crawl to you
>>316633190
I don't really, I'm not the anon you were originally argueing with, I just joined in. What the fuck was your original point?
>>316635594
It's still there
You can even blow legs and arms off of Synths and Ghouls and they'll still keep fighting
>>316633541
It sounds like you have a problem with people breaking into your house, and not people getting high.
I mean, unless you genuinely hate the idea of other people having a nice time, in which case you are mentally damaged or just a giant asshole.
>>316635909
Using drugs to escape is inherently worse than using it for recreational purposes because you're relying on it to feel "happy" while using it for recreational purposes implies it's only in social situations and you don't need it to feel good.
You can get addicted from both obviously but it's more likely to happen when you're using it to escape your problems.
>>316636154
Oh, I guess I do agree with you then. I mean there is nothing wrong with taking drugs to "escape" every now and again, but if you are doing it with addictive substances then you are asking for trouble and that can quickly lead to very bad things.
>>316636046
Nice times are fine, recreational drug use is not. It's all fun and games until someone gets an addiction. And no one ever wants to admit they have an addiction, not even when they're drowning in debt and basically living off the streets to fund their habits. I've never met anyone so addicted to games they end up out on the street or sucking cock because of them.
>>316636383
And the vast majority of all drug uses don't end up that way, jesus fuck. Are you one of those retards who equates all illegal drugs as exactly the same? What do you think about smoking and drinking?
This is my little base of operations in Sanctuary right now. Might move it to the gas station down the way whenever I get the local leader perk.
>>316636487
They're not all exactly the same. Weed isn't addicting, as are a few other things I imagine. Smoking is increasingly becoming less and less tolerated and alcohol creates a shitload of problems too. Smoking and drinking are a bit worse precisely because they're so accepted in the first place. It's just not good to involved with all of that shit to begin with, honestly.
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