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I'm the objectively greatest JRPG of all time.
>>284501216
Excuse me.
Wrong pic.
>>284501380
not even the best mario rpg
>>284501415
you are close second place. If nocturne had the polish/atmosphere/actual plot DDS had it would be the better game
>>284501653
Paper Marios are boring and M&L game are shit.
>>284501216
These are in my massive backlog why should I play them?
>>284502428
That's a MMO anon.
What are the best SMTs for DS/3DS?
>>284501983
Amazing atmosphere/soundtrack
Very free form character building
Fun/challenging combat
Interesting story with an amazing ending.
If you've ever enjoyed an SMT/persona game you will love them, they're in this wierd ven diagram where they take aspects from basically every one of the little spinoffs/sub-series they've made.
The two games combine to be the length of most jrpgs as they're basically just two halves of one game, so even if you aren't feeling it it won't take too much of your time to get to DDS2 (which is probably the better game?)
>>284502428
>offline mmo
>a game so bad that the japanese re-release ads an emulator esque "speed the game up" button because everything was so tedius and that's the only way it's tolerable
>>284501983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeGFINO26GU
this is why
>>284501216
DDS is god-tier
>>284501380
Shit
>>284501415
Good
>>284502428
Literal turd
P2/3/4,DDS1/2,Nocturne,Xenogears,FFVI,FFTT,Chrono Trigger and Valkyrie profile are all god-tier JRPG's
>>284502516
>>284502596
>Game uses an advance version of the ATB system
>Some how it's an MMO.
Stay retarded /v/
>>284502590
Strange Journey, Soul Hackers, IV
>>284502942
The hud and combat is the EXACT same as FF11
OP you posted the wrong image!
Let me help you out!
>>284502590
DeSu remasters for the 3DS
>>284502802
>P2/3/4,DDS1/2,Nocturne,Xenogears,FFVI,FFTT,Chrono Trigger and Valkyrie profile
Good list anon,you forgot Suikoden II and Chrono Cross
>>284501653
What the fuck are you talking about, Nocturne has a real psychedelic atmosphere everywhere and DDS completely lacks it.
Plot is goddamn horrible too.
>>284502802
Chrono Trigger sure is overrated...
>>284503369
>Plot is goddamn horrible too
not him but the plot is good,besides it at least has a plot,Nocturne has none
>>284502802
>P3/4
Go back to your visual novels.
>>284503106
FF 12
(ADB)
>The player has the choice of confronting enemies or keeping their distance and exploring the area. Some creatures will not instigate battle with the party unless the party attacks first, and some enemies encountered on the field will be far too powerful when the party first meets them, adding an element of risk to an all-out-attack methodology when first exploring areas. The player has control over a single party member's movement while engaged in battle and the distance between party members and enemies influences battles as various spells and abilities have an Area of Effect (AoE), meaning party members and enemies need to be within a certain range of each other for the abilities to hit.
FF 11
(RTB)
>As the battle takes place without a separate battle screen loading one is free to move around the landscape during battles, interact with other players or avoid battles altogether. Monsters may attack players without provocation, retaining a hint of random encounters. Characters start attacking automatically once they are in combat with an enemy, and special commands and magic can be input any time. Many items, spells and abilities used during battle have a casting time or delay to use once activated, similar to Active Time Battles.
No they're nothing alike
>>284503603
nice meme
>>284503519
>Nocturne has none
That's not necessarily a problem
>>284503519
>at least has a plot
And it weight the game down too much.
Nocturne wasn't about the story, it was about the weird-ass atmosphere, twisted world, exploration and fun interactions with demons (that demon bar with Nyx being the owner or unsuccessful attempt to summon the dick demon). DDS has a shitload of badly voiced, overly dramatic moments that are simply impossible to bear and story itself is really nothing special of worthy praise.
>>284503603
>VN
>Didn't mention Xenogears
Good way to show that you're just a newfag in JRPG's and didn't play xenogears anon.
Opinion discarted
>>284503963
Xenogears had enough gameplay to matter, instead of >social links the game
>>284501216
Move over for a JRPG with gameplay.
>fucking love DDS1
>start playing DDS2
>mfw during the whole plot twist
>>284503880
>(that demon bar with Nyx being the owner or unsuccessful attempt to summon the dick demon)
You mean two things in a 70 hour game? I sure do love talking to the same fucking ghost or GUY THAT TALK LIEK DIS expositing bullshit plot points that don't matter the entire game.
The only parts of nocturne that have atmosphere are the hospital, the amala stuff and the obelisk. Most of the game is just random somewhat ruined japanese buildings or the same underpass/cave dungeons repeated over and over
DDS has way better atmosphere with places like muladahara
>>284503519
>Nocturne has none
Wow you mean like all the SMTs?
>>284504103
P3Fes has 10:20 of cutscenes and 100 hours of total length if you count the answer.MGS4 has 8:20 of cutscenes and only 17h of full length
>wanting plot in a main SMT game
God fucking damn it, neo/v/
Go read a book
>>284504409
MGS4 is silly, let's not talk about it.
>>284504215
Why do tales game have to be fun but have shit characters?
>>284504538
>wanting to play 80 hours of endless grind/repetitive dungeons and artificial difficult
Go home hipster
>>284504538
You're looking for the rougelike general.
>>284504620
>MGS4 is silly, let's not talk about it.
I was just proving a point
>Why do tales game have to be fun but have shit characters?
Tales are very mid-tier JRPG's,they are no great or even bad,just mediocre
Best handheld JRPG
>>284504409
P3fes is actually fine in the cutscenes department,P4 that goes crazy with this17 hours of cutscenes
>>284505393
The only amazing thing about SJ is the OST
>>284505393
>Not The World Ends With You or FFTA
>>284501216
I never 100%/True Ending RPGs.
>>284505680
>HOO HEE HAA HEE HOO over and over
>good
>>284505742
i suppose you don't like Taro yoko games
>>284504696
>SMT
>grinding
>difficultly
>>284504696
>liking anything that's less popular than something else makes you a hipster, even if it's successful in its own right
I hate this shit.
>>284505684
I haven't posted on /v/ in like 3 or 4 years but I'm postring right now to tell you you're a raging faggot for thinking TWEWY is anywhere close to the best handheld JRPG.
Devil Survivor is my first SMT. Sorry /v/.
>>284507204
Better than Persona 3 or 4.
>>284507092
Sorry you waited so long to be wrong.
>>284501216
Thats not DQV
>DDS
The characters are more anime than anything you find in Persona.
>>284501216
Except that's impossible, because that implies a JRPG could be anything other than a weebtrash visual novel with some baby tier casual combat to fill in the gaps of 9,000,000 bland and pointless dialogue & exposition and 40 hours of cutscenes.
>>284507293
TWEWY's fanbase and the Kingdom Hearts fanbase are the same. That should tell you all you need to know about that game.
Best game of all time coming through
>>284507274
How are the first two? I get mixed opinions.
>>284503723
You're about 5 levels below me and still trying to act like you're educating me. It really is the weirdest fucking feeling.
>>284507496
>judging a game by its fanbase
oh boy
>>284501216
SPACE HINDUS
>people hating on DDS voice acting when it's supposed to be flat and emotionless
why
>>284507274
you sure have brain damage if you actually believe that.
>>284507780
P3/4 are good,don't listen to the autist,P1 is trash and P2 is actually very good
>>284508127
>persona 4 is good
no it isnt'
>>284507780
I haven't played P1, but P2 is terrible. The plot and characters aren't bad, but it inexplicably has worse gameplay than most NES RPGs. Even mechanics they borrowed from SMT that are usually fun, like demon negotiation and fusion, are complete shit in P2.
>>284508212
P3 is better but P4 is a great game too.
>>284501653
>not even the best mario rpg
Yea it was.
But Paper and M&L were pretty good games too.
Mario RPG was just ahead of its time in graphics.
>>284508119
I am unable to derive the semantics of your vernaculars.
>>284501216
so close and so far anon
Someone tell me if I'm wrong here.
Is this the general gist of SMT games:
>demons take over the world/people are transported to a world of demons
>you, the MC, are tasked with investigating what's going on
>you recruit demons along the way, and even gain their abilities
>you meet at least two people along the way
>at first they seem like pretty decent fellows with a friendly disposition
>over time, the presence of demons start taking its toll on them
>one of them starts sympathizing with demons and thinks their current situation isn't so bad, after all
>the other is consistently wary of demons, and turns to angels for help
>one wants to maintain the status quo of demons, and the other wishes to eradicate all demons and form a peaceful utopia
>you can join sides with one of them, but you have to kill the other; the rest of the game focuses on you and your buddy shaping his/her ideal world
>you can also choose to kill both of them, and set things relatively straight; this ending is preferred by most people
>>284509016
that's more or less the case of the main series, yeah
>>284509016
the "gist" is that you only described two games.
>>284509016
>at first they seem like pretty decent fellows with a friendly disposition
Wrong
>>284507462
>look mom i'm a retarded
>>284507704
That fucking battle theme is so god damn hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYVXdQQoAcc
>>284502590
all of them. just get all of them.
>>284509016
SMT has always been "pokemon for adults" the game.
You capture demons (pokemon) and use them to fight other demons (pokemon). Occasionally you have to fight very powerful demons (pokemon trainers). In the end, the head demon Lucifer (charizard) is defeated and you become the new king (misty)
>>284509016
you've got very generalized concepts from several games in there, but none of that is completely accurate for the whole series, especially if you lump Devil Summoner and DDS games in with the main series
>>284509626
this is the weakest bait i've seen
>>284509626
You mean to say, Pokemon is "SMT for kids"
>>284509626
>In the end, the head demon Lucifer (charizard) is defeated and you become the new king (misty)
Isn't SMT about killing God?
>>284501415
I really want to enjoy this game but the demon negotiations are trying my patience.
>>284509016
What I've noticed is that the Chaos guy is usually an obnoxious hotshot, and the Law guy is usually stoic and calm.
Has there ever been an SMT with a brash Law character, and a silent Chaos character?
>>284501216
I find it hard to say that a game where you become a hermaphrodite by fusing with your love interest just before the final dungeon is the greatest anything of all time.
Much like a lot JRPG's the 1st half was a lot better than the 2nd.
>>284510084
You can also join God. (or kill god because god has lost god's way or some shit, I didn't play II)
>>284505393
I'd rather play Persona 2 on PSP.
>>284510038
Jokes are supposed to be funny.
Why does no one like Law?
>>284501216
that moment where you realize MCwas a giant asshole all along and Heat got fucked because of itmade me sad
>>284510084
it depends what game, SMT II is about that, the others aren't
>>284510084
it's about taking down the tyrannical Mr. Clean
>>284510084
Only if you're an spastic chaosFAG
>>284503369
Nocturne needed less random battles and it would have been perfect.
>>284510258
Because it's shit.
>>284510084
No, but you can fuck up Lucifer if you want.
>>284510286
but in SMT II you kill god in both the neutral, chaos and law paths, he is the shared final boss of the game by all paths
>>284501216
But you're wrong.
>want to replay SJ
>remember Fornax
>>284510084
YHVH is the final boss of SMT II on all routes, you fight him for a different reason depending on the route. Even though you defeat him, you can't kill him, since he will have power as long as one person desires a world of law/stability.
In Nocturne, an avatar of YHVH (Kagutsuchi) fights you to be sure you are fit enough to create a new world.
In SJ the ultimate boss is an avatar of YHVH gone rouge (Demiurge).
In some games God isn't a factor, and on Chaos routes you fight his subordinates (Michael in 1, Merkahbah in IV)
On Law routes you usually fight Lucifer allthough in SMT 1 you fight Beelzebub and in SJ Mem Aleph.
>>284510258
Because they take things too far.
Their main objective is to get rid of demons, but they more or less end up enslaving/brainwashing humanity so that they may no longer commit evil.
>>284510491
>fornax
>>284510258
Because people have shit taste.
>>284510549
>not Sector Grus
>>284510502
>On Law routes you usually fight Lucifer allthough in SMT 1 you fight Beelzebub
That's wrong, beelze is an optional ultimate boss. The final boss of law is Asura
>>284504215
NOt even close to the best PS2 Tales game, let alone Tales game, let alone JRPG
>>284510772
Oops. It's been a while, my memory is hazy
>>284508629
idk that SNES 3d is bretty gross m8.
Considering he is Dark aligned, is Adachi Law or Chaos?
>>284511024
Chaos. All he did was stir up shit
Which SMT game had the best OST /v/?
Including spinoffs like DDS/Persona
I DECLARE THIS THE OFFICIAL LAW THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJuIxdyNkM
POST YOUR FAVORITE ANGELS
>>284511256
DDS tied with Nocturne
>>284503124
>shittiest ARPG combat and completely nonsensical plot
Nah.
>>284511256
Nocturne has a special place in my heart but I'm REALLY digging 4's so far. Love the early NIN industrial vibe for above-ground areas and the battle themes are so hype
>>284510521
Is Chaos really any better?
>>284511256
I always loved the Nocturne OST.
>>284501216
>Edgy Pokemon For Casuals
>greatest
lol
>>284511318
DDS 2 though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuOjfyUHnA
>>284503124
OP said greatest, not most mediocre.
>>284511256
DDS
>>284511274
>Melchizedek will never appear in mainline
>>284511256
Strange Journey.
>>284511436
nice dude you're gonna get someone
>>284511256
SMT2
Raidou
Persona 4
In that order
>>284511256
SMT4
>>284510892
What, Abyss is definitely the best one on the PS2.
I liked Xenogears a little bit better but the SMT series is still top-shelf.
>>284512132
>P4 OST
>Better than P3fes
>Raidou
>Better than DDS
>>284511274
>>284511525
If churches used illustrations like these, religion wouldn't be so boring.
>>284512334
If you think Abyss is better than Destiny or even Rebirth you're a stupid knuckle dragger and I don't apologize for thinking so
>>284511414
Not really.
Chaos = Anarchy
Law = Dictatorship
You wouldn't want either of these in the real world.
Don't mind me, just being the actual best JRPG.
>>284502802
>MRPG: SS
>shit
Look at this faggot.
>>284512337
Raidou Kuzunoha vs the Topless army.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXkvn2ctcm4
>>284512574
At least you posted the actually good Raidou game.
>>284512337
I don't see how fucking up a religious exhibit is going to win people to your cause.
Why didn't you save him, /v/?
Look at that smile, why didn't you protect it?
>>284512824
>fedora
That's why.
>There are people in this very thread who don't think SMT IV has the best OST in MegaTen
>>284512574
Man that game was fun. Late game when you fused your favourite demons (Helel, Masakados, Mara for me) it was a real ride.
>>284512564
A good dictatorship is better than shit democracy.
>>284512974
Nocturne was way before fedoras became a hipster/atheist thing.
>>284512824
TotallynotAleph can kiss my ass.
>>284512824
The only smile worth protecting in Nocturne is Pixiv's.
>>284512824
Bitch was gonna backstab you like everyone else but I still felt sorry for him.
>>284512974
I don't think that's a fedora. It doesn't have the crease.
>>284513240
>Pixiv
Shouldn't of laughed that hard.
>>284513240
>Pixiv's.
Autocorrect?
>>284513360
What kind of weeaboo phone recognizes pixiv but not pixie?
>>284513089
Democracy implies it was a vote.
In Chaos, you kill your way to the top.
>>284513089
Dictator more like dicktaster
#rekt
>>284513360
Brainfart.
>>284513435
Some phones will recognize things you type often. I have afriendwhose phone actually autocorrects to common typos for certain words because they make them so damn often.
>we'll never have a game where you can fully explore Tokyo Millennium in a fully detailed environment
I bet Holytown and The Center would look fucking awesome in 3D
Can we all agree Brute is best clan?
>>284513559
Remember, you can't spell "Lawful" without "awful"
>>284513712
>not Femme
>>284513756
They're called lawtists for a reason.Post Walter edits. I need more.
Why do people enjoy SMT games so much ? It's literally hit the ennemy with it's elemental weakness and heal to keep yourself alive.
Nocturne had some additional micromanagement needed because kundas/kajas were actually good in it and Dekunda and Dekaja were important, but otherwise it was the same old shit.
Games with such primitive resource management and action economy as the SMT games can't really be greatest anything.
>>284514010
I only have a couple
>>284513950
I still can't figure out who the gay furry is referring to.
>>284514065
That's fine. I need some dank chaos meme man reaction images for when I shitpost.
>>284513240
>Pixiv's
>>284514010
>mfw I started the "lawtist" shitposting on smtg some year and a half ago
>>284514008
>Lilith will never cast Mothers Love on you
>>284510991
Agreed. The high contrast and high saturation is just really terrible looking. It's all because they seem to start as 3d models that then get down scaled.
>>284514237
Hoy, we call it "funposting"
>>284508127
P1's fine, at least the PSP version. The only thing that really sucks is the high encounter rate late game.
>>284514346
Whatever you want to call it, I need a personification of chaos for those times when I feel like sewing the seeds of discord.
ITT: We post best demon
I'll start.
>>284513116
wait when fedora became a atheist thing?
>>284514471
This image used to have sound
I wonder if our new overlords will finally allow sound in images?
>>284514639
Around 2011-2012 is what I wanna say.
>>284514639
2012/13, I think.
>In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony YHVH’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my freedoms.
>>284514668
Aren't they doing a test run of that one of the boards or something? Hopefully soon.
Thank you for the image dump anon. You've done us all a great favor.
>>284514763
Whenever the fat guy tipping fedora reaction image started popping up.
Name 1 wrpg with good story.
Protip:you c-can't
>>284511429
>mfw someone uses the picture I made
>>284513950
This image is funny, Satan is a lawfag.
Does IV happen after II? Or is the timeline too fucked to tell?
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