http://nintendoeverything.com/report-details-supposed-turmoil-within-nintendo-management/#more-168330
>article claims that there’s a shared recognition of Iwata being the culprit among management.
>strong desire to bring games/franchises like Mario to smartphones
>Iwata is strongly vetoing the idea. Iwata reiterates that “Nintendo’s strength is in unified development of game hardware and software”
>stubbornly rejects the “net” (seems to reference how smartphones don’t use physical media since they download games)
>fixates over “game consoles” – perhaps in light of his pride as a former developer.
>Another insider quote shared by Business Journal claims that there’s cultural friction based on how Iwata comes from outside the company (maybe given his origins at HAL Laboratory?).
>He continues to be involved with software development even after becoming president and there is a feeling of helplessness among “native” Nintendo executives.
>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.
Whose side would you be on /v/?
Iwata's side or the CEOs of Nintendo's side?
Iwata's because gaming on phones is the cancer slowly killing video games and it's just all microtransactions
>CEO wants money
>Iwata wants Nintendo to stick to their guns and not sell out like everyone else
>HURR HE'S TEH BAD GUY, NOT LIKE ANYONE CARES ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ANYMORE
>>256053220
Truly, we are in dark times if he does get the boot.
>>256052991
Shareholder generally dont know shit about how a company operates and just wants the stocks to increase.
Whatever Iwata is doing, he's clearly killing the company.
>>256052991
>He continues to be involved with software development even after becoming president
how is this bad, he's an amazing programer
fuck you executives
>>256052991
The fuckers just need to do a Pokémon for smartphones, selling shit like master balls and accesories and they will do insane profits.
>>256052991
Iwata invented casual gaming and subsequently mobile gaming.
>>256053521
One of the last comments says there are Nintendo CEOs who don't like his involvement with software development after becoming President, so it's not just shareholders
>>256053773
It's probably because it makes them look bad in comparision as the employes see that at least someone who orders them knows what the fuck he's doing.
>>256053742
Naw, he just popularized a series of tech demos which helped to get the boost they need to sell their last gen console incredibly well.
MKW helped ensure that it would sell well until the end of its lifespan.
>>256053986
No, it's because being micromanaged is a shitty work situation, but no fucking autistic neckbeard without work experience is going to know that.
>>256052991
Iwata, the hero saving gaming
>>256052991
>>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.
So why did Iwata's apporval rating improved?
Why did they allow Iwata to return to office?
Don't they want to stop this and prevent Iwata from making a new console?
>>256054583
Because the rumor is fake?
lets say they kick out iwata, what the fuck are they going to do?
you think they are gonna say "oh boy /v/ wants another f-zero and old school games, we should do that"
they are going to give you super mario iOS and pokemon iOS with micro transactions and even worse f-zero iOS
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
>>256054817
the last installment of f-zero sold so poorly that they would probably just abandon the franchise all together.
>>256053742
Casual gaming and moble gaming was invented by Gunpei Yokoi
>>256054684
>Because the rumor is fake?
I'm still confused where this source comes, and confused on why Iwata apporval rating improved.
Why do you want Nintendo focus on consoles?
Consoles are dying
>>256054817
If Iwata is removed, then they'll have a clean field to do whatever they want, starting with porting older Nintendo games to iOS and Android. They will do mad profit from people who doesn't know how to emulate.
Bussinesswise, if the rumors are true, removing Iwata is the right choice.
Iwata's. It's not even a question.
>>256055598
Oh god...
Time and again Iwata was the difference between a major Nintendo title being complete unreleasable shit or being another one of the greatest games of all time. He swooped in and saved EarthBound by reprogrammnig the whole damn thing. He took the prototype of Pokemon Gold & Silver and shrunk it so that they could cram all of Kanto in there.
Yamaguchi chose this man over his own son because the dude was a badass businessman who knew what was best for his company. I bet this is all bullshit, and I also bet that anyone who actually works at NOJ sucks Iwata's dick like they rightfully should.
>>256053521
WHAT
you mean the people who use their money to buy shares from the PUBLIC COMPANY want the company value to increase instead o dropping and losing billions every year?
HOW DARE THEY!!!!!11111
>>256055591
Everyone can claim they got the info from "sources" but in reality they are just made up for clicks because it doesn't add why Iwata rating improved. Or Nintendo is lying about the rating or the webite made things up.
>>256053741
that'd be disgusting
>Fire Iwata for short term mobile profit
>In five years Nintendo will be aimless
>In ten years, bankrupt
>>256054817
better than nintendo crashing and burning worse than the dreamcast and the gamecube.
the fucking GAMECUBE is kicking the wii U`s ass.
THINK ABOUT THAT
>>256052991
The Yamauchi's son was a total hack
The Iwata's approval rating is fine
This is bullshit.
>>256056253
times are different, there were no smartphones and other kind of shit that stole customers
>>256052991
>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.
Dear God NO
I think Nintendo has the software talent to really push the quality of mobile gaming if they ever go that way. I hope some kind of hardware comes along with the deal, though. I hate forced touch controls.
Iwata's side
Nintendo's charm will die off without him
>>256055598
Consoles aren't dying, but Nintendo's hardware is falling behind. They're at risk of becoming even more isolated from the rest of the industry which isn't a good thing unless they can make enough system selling games by themselves.
Fuck bending over for CEO's and their push to kill video games to appeal to retards.
Based Iwata's. Forever.
>>256052991
>retards still think there's money to be made in mobile gaming.
Yeah, because we all know how much money Capcom/Squeenix are rolling in right?
>still no source on this "rumor"
>>256056195
nintendo had 9 billion on their war chest after the wii became a hit. it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U. 3 billion burned by iwata in less than 3 years.
at this rate, nintendo won`t last to 2020. so, from your own admission, they would last longer following the mobile profit.
>>256052991
>Whose side would you be on
The side that refuses to become mobile phone sellouts
>>256052991
sounds like some buttblasted employees to me that someone got hired that actually gives a fuck
nintendos big strength is hording all their own ips.
spread it around and they become sega.
>>256056495
If they went mobile chances are that most of their force would leave for other companies though.
>yfw Iwata has a "car accident" this October
clearly Nintendo should keep pandering to /v/ and losing money instead of actually changing anything
>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U
Nice lie.
>>256055760
>They will do mad profit from people who doesn't know how to emulate.
It's not going to be that simple. They can't get people paid upfront for the emualtors, and have to bait those casuals into spending mony
Nintendo will need some seirous marketing and resarch to get people throw dollars at Nintendo. Putting games on mobile won't instantly make you profits.
>>256056090
Iwata's apporval ratings are public source, you can't lie about things like that.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847130
>>256054223
you are really fucking stupid
>>256053742
>>256053741
>>256055997
>>256055760
>>256055598
Reminder that we have faggots like this posting on /v/ regularly.
The mobile gaymer cancer is spreading fast. How long before vidya dies to these underage b&s and normalfags?
>>256052991
>Iwata's side or the CEOs of Nintendo's side?
Iwata is the CEO. What are you talking about?
>>256055591
>confused on why Iwata apporval rating improved.
he invented he was sick, dodged the investor meeting not to get roasted, and got a tiny but of approval due to sympathy.
it`s the oldest trick in the book when a company is having a meeting while in the shitter.
>>256056652
is that time of the day again, when you post bullshit to shitpost?
![reddit[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/fL7nBB1.gif "reddit[1].gif")
>>256052991
>source is a non academic moonrunes journal article
>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U
No it fucking hasn't. And they did post losses last year, but they also bought a building and hired a fuck ton of people. Get your facts straight.
>>256052991
>stubbornly rejects the “net” (seems to reference how smartphones don’t use physical media since they download games)
So is this why there's no Nintendo account system?
>>256055997
Because short term returns are always better than sustained success, of course. Why would you want to make a brand that can last decades when you can get a quick buck NOW.
How long until the constant bitching from Smartphone pieces of shits get to Nintendo?
Iwata is a shit producer and CEO. It represents everything wrong with Nintendo nowdays. I would definitely support the son of the man who thought about giving us good games was his main objetive and not jew people with sequels, rehashes and useless gimmicks.
>>256056728
It doesn't have to be a total abandonment of other platforms. Can you imagine if they just had one team, like intelligent systems make a mobile game? I think people would eat it up.
>>256052991
So what I'm getting from this is that Iwata is the only authority at nintendo that actually cares about video games. Is that right?
>>256057179
There is a Nintendo account system, the NNID(Nintendo Network ID).
Infact Iwata said they're treating the NNID as it's own platform to coexist between consoles, handhelds and even the QoL devices whatever it ends up being.
man, that article doesn't even TRY to sound feasible; it's like reading something from The Sun
>>256057362
Oh shut the fuck up, pleb.
Don't pretend like you know of anything that goes on other than what your stupid ass sees on the surface.
>>256057367
I want to play Crashmo on my phone.
>>256052991
fresh off the presses
Mobile gaming = shovelware for normalfags
Wii = shovelware for normalfags
Why does /v/ love one but hate the other?
>>256057367
It's slippery slope those. The media and industry wants Nintendo to go third party in general.
Sony/Microsoft can get away with it because they fucking giants, and the media can't fuck with them.
It would be more profitable to expand Nintendo's IPs to shit like smartphones.
At the same time, that shit is literally the cancer killing video games, and anyone that actually WANTS to play shit on phones already knows how to. So fuck that.
So go Iwata. Yeah, it won't make as much money, but hey, standing for your principles always costs something.
>>256057362
>the man who thought about giving us good games was his main objetive and not jew people with sequels, rehashes and useless gimmicks.
you definitely have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
>tfw I actually invested in Nintendo
>this faggot is making me and my investor peers bleed money
he has to go
If this is true I might actually like Iwata.
>>256057590
It's a hot topic, of course people want to talk about it.
>>256055591
>ANYMORE
Does anyone even read? This is not about stockholder, but some guys in the management that want iwata gone
>>256057367
Stop trying to ruin great developers
Where do you normalfaggots come from? Seriously, fuck smartphone gaymers.
>>256052991
>fixates over “game consoles” – perhaps in light of his pride as a former developer.
>Focusing on what made Nintendo big instead of saturated mobile gaming is a bad thing now.
I....what? How is this bad?
>>256057484
No, what I meant was digital purchases being tied to the actual console instead of the account.
I shouldn't have to keep myself from bringing my 3DS anywhere and risk losing all 15+ games I bought for good.
Remind me again who the fuck makes so much on mobile gaming? It's not Crapcom or Squenix.
>>256057610
>Going on omegle
Literally the bigeest benefit to having Nintendo games on the iOS would be to get the word and experience out for Nintendo games.
People in high school and some in college are too self-conscious to carry around 3DS's. They all have iPhones or iPods, and as a result, Nintendo could reach out to a lot more people, potentially luring them into buying a real, actuallyfunctioningconsole.
I'm on Iwata's side, I'd be completely fine for Nintendo to stay first-party system-exclusive. However I would think that there are a number of benefits for moving to iOS. So long as the quality of the games do not diminish significantly, I'd be down for it.
tl;dr I'm with Iwata, but I can see why they want to move to iOS and I'm fine with it as long as they don't screw it up.
>>256052991
>Iwata was just re-elected president
This article is full of shit stop giving it pageviews
>>256057805
This thread is not videogames and belongs to /biz/
>>256057712
Please die.
>>256057367
If Nintendo IPs go 3rd party, even just for smartphones, Nintendo will lose their last faithful fans and the rest of their divisions will eventually die.
Square and Capcom already showed that the smartphone market is saturated and not that easy to make money out of any more.
>>256057712
>implying you have money
>implying you're not a NEET lying on 4chan for whatever reason
>>256057913
King, I suppose. And maybe Zynga, but even Zynga is falling apart these days.
>>256057741
this specific thing is probably not but he has done this before. in fact, he bought most of the nintendo stock so the investors couldnt force them to go mobile. theres a faggot higher in the thread saying iwata lost 3 billion. that money went towards the stocks and buying more buildings
>>256055957
>>256053691
if he's a great developer you put him in charge of that and someone else to run the business side of things
>>256053521
Some proof for your statement:
www.gonintendo.com/s/155527-rude-shareholder-tells-iwata-that-games-are-a-waste-asks-why-wii-fit-wasn-t-sent-to-quake-victims
>>256057610
So what? A normal person that probably isn't into video games thinks a game she played at her friends house is fun? Big fucking deal.
>>256052991
Assuming any of this is true, of course I'd take Iwata's side. Somebody has to remain dedicated to video games and jt might as well be Nintendo. Honestly I could see it paying off in the long run after Microsoft and Sony start going after the retarded smart phone and tablet audience, as that would leave Nintendo as some sort of niche market filler for people who want actual games.
>>256057590
You know they ban for posts like this, right?
>>256057956
It concerns vidya platforms and what Nintendo games are on, so yeah it kind of is. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not vidya.
>>256052991
Would smartphones even make them that much money?
This thread made me realize how many jew smartphone shills we have here.
>>256057986
>Nintendo will lose their last faithful fans and the rest of their divisions will eventually die
You mean hoards of manchildren and soccer mums? Nintendo could stand to lose these morons and target a larger market.
>>256056916
Assblasted much?
iwata isn't in a good place
The wiiu and 3ds both had meh launches that trailed of fast. The 3ds managed to come back but that isn't what the investors remember, they don't want someone who has to safe a product that got fucked up they want a good one in the first place. If WiiU sales pick up he may be in an okay place but otherwise he is boned
>>256058015
>projecting this hard
>Being a high-up in a video game company and making decisions based on integrity and not what makes you the most money
Any day now
>>256053220
How would smart phone Mario games impact big console titles?
>>256058015
>for whatever reason
Oh good god. It's finally over, nintendo can finally die now. It kinda makes me happy.
>>256057362
>was his main objetive and not jew people with sequels, rehashes and useless gimmicks.
You seriously think if Nintendo goes Third party and Mobile they won't just be living up their nostalgia, and their previous success for the next decade?
Do people serioulsy think they won't become ...
>>256054817
It's good idea for a business standpoint to put some egg into mobile, but it's not going pretty for fags who have such high opinions of Nintendo like /v/ does.
>>256058197
I'm not the one calling people autistic neckbeards just because I'm upset about my living situation.
>>256058109
Not if they are defending Nintendo. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a mod/janitor who made the post.
>rumors
>journos
>forgot that half of /v/ is full of nintendoomsayers and anti-Nintendo nigglets
>last year was full of "Iwata Fired" "Drop the WiiU. bring in the S.P. PC console" and "Third-partyntendo" circlejerl
let's get the show on the road, then
>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U.
Nintendo hasn't even lost much on the WiiU, and most of the little they have lost are actually investments
The company isn't going anywhere
>>256052991
>fire iwata
>nintendo games are now on mobile
a vote against iwata is a vote against vidya
Nintendo needs to ditch the conventional console and just switch to portables only.
Make a portable with a cradle that lets you play games on your tv. It would sell like hotcakes and would unify console and portable.
>>256057610
That You-guy is a fucking faggot, goddamn. I almost feel sorry for him.
So let me get this.
You people that hate and despise mobile gaming want a CEO that despise mobile gaming as well to go, leaving the huge possibility that the next CEO will force nintendo to do mobile games (and only god knows what other cancerous decisions he will make).
Really?
>>256058241
It's not even that, it's just straight up lying just to lie like a dumb faggot.
>>256058371
The majority of /v/ are Nintendo fanboys, though.
If Nintendo made mobile games, it would be like accepting defeat. Most of their well known developers would probably move to other companies and Miyamoto would probably retire.
All passion for making games would be gone and all work would be going towards pleasing the investors. Which means that Nintendo would become a soulless company with a bunch of generic "salary men" working for them.
And of course when the mobile fad ended, Nintendo would die with it.
>>256057863
Smartphone gaming sucks right now. Both the software and the interfaces. So I'm still a huge console fag. But it won't be that way forever. I don't think anyone is as well positioned to inject actual quality into that industry as nintendo is. From a selfish perspective, I just want to see them find ways to make money, and keep paying those geniuses in Kyoto to make games.
>>256058092
Jesus fucking Christ. What the hell is wrong with that douchebag?! And WHO CARES about the reason he bought stocks??
I... God damn it.
>>256058162
>Leaving your faithful fans and buyers behind, for a nonexistance userbase that hasn't been prove give you money.
That's the exact dumb gambles that give you DmC.
>>256058312
>You seriously think if Nintendo goes Third party and Mobile they won't just be living up their nostalgia, and their previous success for the next decade?
Nostalgia is what Nindy have been banking on for years now. It's pretty much all they have. Why do you think there are so many Mario games?
>>256057712
>Investors
The cancer killing the vidya industry and every other industry on this planet
>Guys we have 2% of your company
>Give us dividend or we will fuck you up
>>256058583
>WHO CARES
Nintendo cares.
Stock holders have more say than autistic NEETs.
I'm on Iwata's side. Fuck the boards of directors and all that cancer. All I care about is video games, and they sabotage them in favor of profit.
On a business view, CEOs are absolutely right
But I love video games too much to not be on Iwata's side
Why is it so wrong to be right ;_;
>>256058475
>leaving the huge possibility that the next CEO will force nintendo to do mobile games
[citation needed]
Won't happen, sorry smartphone gaymer.
>>256055957
source
>shareholders who are only in the business because video games are big are telling a video game company what to do when they have no idea about video games nor do they care about them
>Iwata doesn't want to do it
Anybody not on Iwata's side is a fucking retard.
>>256058240
If Mario, Metroid and Zelda go to smartphones, those brands will be destroyed. The most known phone game is a autistic, mindless, piggon-throwing fest = that's what smartphone users want
>>256058686
>By the way, the reason I own Nintendo stock is because the name is nice, it’s in Kyoto and it was listed in the year of my birth.
>By the way
Nobody asked. That guy was just saying shit for no good reason.
>>256058236
>forgetting Iwata got promoted again
>people don't realized roster-fags and battlefags got so pissed at the MK8 roster and battle gameplay, they didn't buy the game.
don't be blind it's all coming to together
>Megaman in smash
>not Ridley in smash
>>256049352
>>256058802
>source: A faggot who barely knows japanese on Neogaf
For fuck sakes
http://biz-journal.jp/i/2014/08/post_5585_entry.html
>>256057610
>people who don't play games have casual taste and this is apparently a big deal
go get 'em champ
>>256058608
Anon do you not understand that Nintendo NEEDS to start doing SOMETHING? The Wii U is hemorrhaging money and over the next few years the Xbox 1 and PS4 are only going to get more and more games and more and more users.
>>256057975
>>256058015
>>256058674
Give me a reason I shouldn't be upset that he's losing my money for his stubborn attitude. Nintendo moving in mobile platforms will boost their profits. It's branching out, not changing course. I don't give a shit if you guys cry over the quality of the games, it's my money.
>>256058895
>Iwata saved Earthbound
Fuck anyone who doesn't like Iwata.
>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.
lel nepotism
>>256058109
>>256058345
The Nintendo boogeyman fear on /v/ is fantastic.
>Iwata's face when mobile gaming crashes and burns due to the sheer number of devs in the market
It's already happening to Zynga.
>>256058994
Smartphones are not the way to go though. Nintendo needs to stop relying on this gimmick technology and actually make a console that can compete with Sony/Microsoft's graphically, and with a standard controller (such as the Wii U Pro).
>>256058932
> source: Neogaf
That explains everything. They had multiple threads about firing Iwata in the past, they have a huge hateboner for him. Ironic that most Iwata haters there don't even own nintendo consoles in the first place.
>>256057712
Lets forget the Wii and DS real quick huh?
>>256059135
>Zynga
How fucked are they now?
>>256052991
Iwatas side, because really, Nintendo will go under after making a mint on roms for smartphones
>>256059192
Well Neogaf is Sony central.
>>256054959
>sold over a million copies
>sold poorly
Squeenix go to bed
How to we get these CEOs to shut their out of touch mouths the fuck up?
What retard still thinks smartphones are the future of vidya?
>>256059115
>The Nintendo boogeyman fear on /v/ is fantastic.
It isn't a boogeyman retard. You have to be new here if you aren't aware of the strong Nintendo fanboy presence. Over the next week count the number of Nintendo threads.
>>256059045
Be a smart investor next time.
>>256059201
Yeah, that's cool. But I'd rather keep making more money, not lose it.
>>256059045
Yeah, and how long will those profits last, if they make any at all?
>>256059151
That's dumb. The market is barely big enough to sustain two completely fucking identical products, why would adding a third help anything?
>>256059045
did it work for Sega?
did it work for Squeenix?
did it work for Capcom?
>BUTIFNINTYGOESTHIRDPARTYEVERYTHINGWILLGOFINE!
>>256057913
Kim Kardashian
>>256059045
>Nintendo moving in mobile platforms will boost their profits.
Yeah, like zynga?
>>256059237
They're so fucked that it's not even funny, the bubble burst so hard.
>>256059237
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2373295-valuation-why-zyngas-stock-is-worth-less-than-2
>>256058371
>is ok when those rumors are microsoft or sony shitposting guys
Victim complex sure works fine here
>>256059151
You mean like they did with GC?
>>256059151
>Nintendo needs to stop relying on this gimmick technology and actually make a console that can compete with Sony/Microsoft's graphically, and with a standard controller (such as the Wii U Pro).
They won't, though. You know it, I know it, fanboys know it, and then you've got idiots in denial such as this: >>256059328
>>256059115
Fuck off, faggot. The first post isn't even applicable.
>>256052991
>Iwata's side or the CEOs of Nintendo's side?
Whatever side kills the Wii series games and gives us back our classics.
More Metroid Starfox and FZero.
>>256059045
no it won't. why would people play nintendo phone games when they can/already have dump/dumped their money into more epopular games, like candy crush?
>>256057683
>literally
just stop using that word you stupid faggot. It means the exact opposite of the way you used it.
Iwata's side of course. I don't even own a Nintendo console except for the 3DS. I used to own a Gameboy, but it disappeared mysteriously.
>>256059294
You know, if some people would spend less time shitting on nintendo and making threads about their favourite videogame, maybe there would be more non-nintendo threads as well.
And /v/ is mostly PC players anyway.
>>256059351
>that picture
kek'd
>>256058240
Why buy a new $50 Super Mario game when you can get Super Mario on the iOS for just 99 cents? And then pay an extra dollar to make Mario jump higher! And then, if you're having too hard a time you can drop another dollar for 10 Super Mushrooms to be used at any time, OR five dollars for 10 Super Stars!This isn't a fantasy exageration, either a shareholder or someone on the board at Nintendo actually said "pay a dollar to make Mario jump higher"
>>256059320
How much longer do you think their profits will last in their current position?
SMARTPHONE GAYMERS GET THE FUCK OUT
>>256055760
>Bussinesswise,
yeah turning into zynga is a great fucking idea
>>256059045
Because you are a pump n' dump investor and deserve to burn in financial hell.
Good enough?
>>256059151
>Nintendo needs to stop relying on this gimmick technology and actually make a console that can compete with Sony/Microsoft's graphically
Yeah, and run games at a silky smooth 30fps? No thanks. They do need to focus on better hardware, but it's stupid to try and make a dumbed down computer like Microsoft and Sony do. Consoles need more variety not only in games, but hardware too. They try and compete with Microsoft and Sony on their level, and they'll fail.
>>256059378
i didn't say anything Sony or Microsoft faggot
>>256059294
Yes, that is totally related to Nintendo fanboyism and not to the industry currently being composed of Nintendo and 2 different kinds of Microsoft.
Or the library of both the xbone and the PS4 being utter, complete, total shit
Nope.
It's nintendo fanboyism I tell ya
>>256058371
I remember the "Nintendo Fusion" rumour that was so poorly conceived they actually claimed that it would feature standard PC architecture and be a powerhouse...for £350
Even though Iwata is resisting mobile garbage, he has no idea how the internet has changed things. Their online infrastructure is garbage.
>>256052991
Iwata should just let it go to smartphones. The graphics are identical anyway.
>pic related: nintendos current fanbase
>>256057683
>Mobile gaming is literally the cancer killing video games
nope
Shitty business practices that plague lots of mobile games are, but they plague console games to.
>>256059294
but also, count the number of nintendo hate/is doomed/how can we fix threads
it's like people don't understand that the larger the fanbase, the larger the hatebase. Nintendo has the biggest of both on /v/.
>>256058778
>Loves vidya too much
>Siding with the managers that want Nintendo games for phones
Are you sure?
>>256053521
Shareholders of Nintendo are primarily company workers and extended family of the employees. If they dont like Iwata, its really that fucking bad.
Iwata because fuck nepotism.
>>256059045
Some of us actually care about video game quality. Go fuck yourself, suit
>>256059447
>More Metroid Starfox and FZero.
What a nice combo of niche franchises, anon.
>>256059045
BA-ZYNGA
>>256059378
Nobody claimed that but you
You are the one with a victim complex anon
>>256059636
How? Have you actually played online since Wii?
>>256059345
Well, you got me curious so I do a quick google check.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e140331.html
pic related.
>>256059045
those "profits" will last as long a bubble in a cactus field.
>>256056652
>they would last longer following the mobile profit.
and be essentially EA with Nintendo franchises? no thanks
>>256059492
>You know, if some people would spend less time shitting on nintendo
You're getting this backwards.
>And /v/ is mostly PC players anyway.
Source: rectal cavity
>>256055760
They'd make profit selling out all thier old franchises like that, but that profit would dry up really quick. Iwata is in charge of making nintendo last another 100 years. Alienating all the people who like video games for people who cant stand paying more than a dollar for smart phone games isnt a good strategy
>>256059515
holy shit, is this real? Sonyggers are getting BTFO
> PiiU sells like shit
> 3DS has no games
> IWATA IS THE HERO NINTENDO DESERVES
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Axe that chink
>Mario to smartphones
jesus christ what a horrible idea - the only edge and nintendo's charm is their characters on their platforms. they might as well start porting Mario, Zelda and Metroid and kill their company.
>>256059618
Nobody believed that except shitposters that pretended to be nintendo fans.
>>256058856
>it was listed in the year of my birth
What does that even mean anyways? Didn't Nintendo start in the 1800's?
>>256059345
you forgot EA
>>256058092
What the fuck
>People lose their families, homes, and pets
>Hurr why didn't Nintendo send them Wii Fit?!
>>256059312
>>256059045
Stop lying, Neogaf faggot.
>>256059680
I just said that i'm with Iwata, you dingus
>>256059413
Of course they won't, they never did.
>Shoulder buttons
>Sticks
>Rumble
>Analog shoulder buttons
>Motion controls
>Dual screens
They will never stop inventing new gimmicks
>>256059636
>>256059757
It's not nearly as bad as people claim, it's still honestly bad.
Like, Internet is not going away anytime soon, Nintendo should invest into a strong online system, they have to do it at some point, might as well be soon
>>256059328
That is true, but companies these days only seem to care about the next graphical enhancement (which is ironic since they develop for consoles and not PC), so Nintendo being behind everything is problematic in this regard.
>>256059398
Gamecube was a great machine, fucked over by third party companies left and right, and it was due in fact that the PS2 existed at this time. The PS3 and PS4 are nowhere near the PS2's status, nor will they ever be. The Xbox brand only took off thanks to Halo, which deterred a lot of people away from the Gamecube.
>>256059413
Sadly, it's the truth. One of their biggest problems as well is the decision to call the Wii U, the Wii U. Most people that game these days thing it's just a peripheral for the Wii and don't understand it's an entirely new console, especially factoring in all the random people that bought a Wii. Nintendo still has plenty of money, sure they lost a shitton of it in the first quarter alone, but they've got plenty, and I don't see them going under anytime soon or having to resort to smartphone games.
Even if the consoles ever do go down, they'll just stick to handhelds exclusively.
>President has integrity
>Gets himself more involved with his company's projects
Really says something when this is considered to be bad.
>>256058101
cmon knowing what either is kinda dumb. at least a DS or a Wii
>>256059294
You must be REALLY new here if you honestly think that /v/ has been Nintendo centric for anything more than a year.
Seriously, fuck. It was closer to "/v/ - Sony" between 2006 and 2011
>>256059045
that image is cute, saved
>>256059045
>Short term profit is better than longterm profit xD
Thats the reason everybody hates investors like ...
I forgot his name the old faggot who is always invited
Pachter thats his name.
>>256059045
>Investing in Nintendo because the Wii made tons of dosh and you arrived late to the train
>now want them to go mobile because you fucked up with your investment
You fucked up. Maybe do some research into the field before you invest like someone who isn't retarded.
>>256058994
Of course they need to change their ways, but jumping on the mobile bandwagon without fully understanding the risks and rewards is retarded. That's the problem with investors, they would want the rewards without considering the risks of Nintendo doing it. Dropping people who give Nintendo's money without proving that Mobile audience is going to give you more money is silly .
I don't like the idea of Nintendo going mobile without going third party, first. I don't think it's possible for Nintendo to go mobile, and have a handheld busines at the same time. It's nothing more then accepting defeaft that could spiral for black PR for the 3DS and Wii U. I don't think Nintendo should be just focusing on mobile itself. They just focusing on extending their reaches in the MMO, F2P in mutiple markets, Smart Toys, health, etc instead of just merely focusing JUST mobile.
Yes Capcom releases mobile games, but they still make amusement park/arcades. Yes Square Enix releases mobile, but they have tenacles elsewhere. Gungho releases mobie, but they have have MMOs and network services to back on.
Nintendo ONLY focusing on mobile seems silly without actual legit plan.
>>256059985
>But I love video games too much to not be on Iwata's side
>to not be on Iwata's side
>>256059690
But they do like him
>>256059870
>> 3DS has no games
What.
>>256059870
Why are you even here, normalfag?
>>256059368
>http://seekingalpha.com/article/2373295-valuation-why-zyngas-stock-is-worth-less-than-2
>need to registrar.
>Just highlight everything and it works fine.
Who the fuck runs this website?
>>256059778
>You're getting this backwards
Oh sure. Where were you when nintendo registered a loss this last week?
> Source
Just browse more. You must be really blind.
>>256059587
Considering Nintendo actually knows how to make a game run smoothly I don't think they'd have a problem with it. Consumers don't want gimmicks, they just want something they think looks pretty and runs at 30fps, this is the sad truth these days.
>>256059045
you're a fucking moron.
>its my money abloo bloo
Investors are so goddamn stupid. Going public is the worst thing any company with integrity can do.
>>256052991
As much as I hate smart phones and shit, that's where all the money and the casual market is heading, stubbornly refusing to adapt to change might be admirable, but it's certainly not a good strategy for a company.
>>256059883
Exactly. And yet, we had a good 20 threads a day for 2 weeks.
Then the shareholder meeting comes around and, funnily enough, Iwatas big shakeup was just getting a new marketing team. Hilarious.
>>256059602
>It's nintendo fanboyism I tell ya
Considering a good 10% of all /v/ content is Smash threads.
>Or the library of both the xbone and the PS4 being utter, complete, total shit
As opposed to what, the nth entry of classic Nintendo IPs with the same fucking gameplay for over a decade, which look like they were made in 2004?
It doesn't matter how shit it the games are on Wii U, /v/ will and does defend them to death. Your shitposting is a prime example.
>>256057367
Nintendo will never go towards Mobile. It would be a sign of defeat and for a company like Nintendo, who's whole principles are built on not giving in, it would be sudoku for them.
>>256060074
It's PC masterrace above anything.
It's just that the current state of the industry is utter shit, you have the Xbone, an upraded xbox360 that says "PS4" on the front and the WiiU
And the one with the most exclusives is 100% going to be the WiiU
And WiiU actually does cater to the hardcore audience, plenty for the age of the system even.
/v/ is not biased towards Nintendo, Nintendo is biased towards /v/, ESPECIALLY in comparison to the other two
>>256059870
I'd rather have bland rehashes than mobile games. Do you really have no idea how unimaginably horrible they are? Phone games make sticker star and other M look like masterpieces
>>256059647
Oh yes the graphics are caught up well done. That was surely the only issue.
Not the lack of good controls
Or the lack of quality control and abundance of ripoffs
Or the inability to price a game for more than free or a buck
Or the fact that most people arent willing to play through a long game on just their phone
Or the insecurity of depending on other peoples hardware
>>256058092
I have to admit, if they had stations of Wii Fit and Wii Sports that survivors could play in the care centers, that would have been the BEST PR stunt in the world. Guarantee they wouldn't have had money problems after that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fzTvtsq8I
Obligatory
Phones are cancer, but it's where money is made.
Shareholders at a recent Falcom meeting also adressed this. They wanted to see how ARPGs faired on mobile.
It's fucking over, guys...
Unless they want to make games for us 'Gaijins' which we all know how it will end up.
>>256060074
What? Sony was always mocked. No gaems, ect.
If it wasn't for Demon's Souls, PS3 would have been paper weight for a solid 3 years.
>>256059151
Can you honestly tell me what the PS4 does that the Xbox One can't, or vice versa? I mean, I'm no expert, but the games for the most part look exactly the same graphically-wise, and 95% of the games can be matched with that same one or one dangerously similar to it on the other console.
Heck, call me a Nintendrone, but it seems like Nintendo will continue to do alright so long as they improve their marketing and continue to find some positive way to set themselves apart from the competition. Sony and Microsoft seem like they're essentially copying each other now when you look at the big-picture.
>>256059986
>They will never stop inventing new gimmicks
Maybe they should stop focusing on inventing gimmicks so they have enough time left over to make new games, as opposed to slapping together yet another Mario title.
>>256060271
The difference between the two is, even though Nintendo does rehash, their games are still fun even if it's the same old shit every time. Sony and Microsoft pump out rehashes, but those games were never fun, except maybe one or two here and there.
>>256060087
I've been invested with Nintendo since 2002. I want other investors to agree with me to get rid of Iwata.
He's a stubborn man, and a former dev shouldn't be at the helm of the business. I'm sorry, but the profits from the Wii and DS are quickly diminishing. Maybe mobile is too saturated but 3rd party on other big platforms would be fantastic.
>>256060271
>As opposed to what, the nth entry of classic Nintendo IPs with the same fucking gameplay for over a decade, which look like they were made in 2004?
Right, because the others don't do this
Changing the IP means nothing if you are left with fucking generic TPS
>>256059528
Certainly longer than if they went mobile.
>>256059757
Everyone uses online, and I don't own a WiiU but the 3DS eshop is terrible, and all of these upcoming Ninty games don't even have online multiplayer.
>>256054223
We dont know if he's micromanaging or not
>>256059045
>I don't give a shit if you guys cry over the quality of the games, it's my money
this is the true cancer. right here. unless b8t
I'd love to know how you're supposed to play a Mario game with no buttons. Would it just auto-run and you'd tap the screen to jump?
>>256052991
This article is fake as fuck but for discussion I'd side with Iwata without a second thought.
Shareholders are fucking retarded. None of them have any idea what exactly is going on with the smartphone field because they're a bunch of actual retards flinging their worthless MBAs around saying "EVERYTHING SMARTPHONE IS THE FUTURE EVERYTHING MUST BE ON SMARTPHONE EVEN IF IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE LONG TERM MY APINION IS GRATE". You fags who think that anything Nintendo will do for smartphones will be anything other than nostalgia-goggles cash in bullshit are completely delusional. You think Nintendo isn't putting out new IPs now? Watch as every six months a "New" Super Mario Bros Android + iOS app is released with fewer and fewer returns each time.
The smartphone bubble burst long ago and only now people are starting to get it. Look at any smartphone market: it's filled with shovelware and fishy shit. Zynga is floundering around. Every smartphone game without fail has some sort of cash shop for the sole purpose of "pay2 get stuff faster" but all of that is turning casuals away who want a quick burst of entertainment. The smartphone market is so chockfull of wasted devs it's sad, with all of them wanting to be the next lottery golden app designer like Flappy Bird was.
I will say that Nintendo's senior-citizen tier fear of net integration is appalling. They're sitting on an actual gold mine if they made Mario Party not only local multiplayer but online multiplayer.
>>256060119
Shit, Gungho released a port of Puzzle and Dragons for the 3DS, and I'm pretty sure that P&D is one of the biggest/best selling mobile games available for Gungho, one of the biggest/most profitable mobile devs around.
Also another big difference is that Capcom and Squeenix are third party devs and don't create hardware. They don't jeopardize sales of their hardware by making mobile games.
>>256060463
Stop pretending, weeb. Really.
>>256060401
No ones buying it, smartphone gaymer.
You can stop pretending now, faggot
>>256060463
pic or didn't happen.
>>256060421
>If it wasn't for Demon's Souls, PS3 would have been paper weight for a solid 3 years.
*For another 3 years
>>256060463
>He's a stubborn man, and a former dev shouldn't be at the helm of the business
Maybe you are baiting, maybe you don't know shit about Iwata's career, but you are wrong and your post is crap
>>256060446
Because hardware developers are software developers.
OH wait you are just a shitposter.
>>256060332
>And WiiU actually does cater to the hardcore audience
With what, exactly? Games designed to be family friendly?
>It's PC masterrace above anything.
Yeah, and you aren't part of it.
>>256060232
That's why it's best for Nintendo to move away from the casuals. They already are, but they need to still do more.
>>256052991
>cultural friction based on how Iwata comes from outside the company
Japs even found a way to be xenophobic about their own people
>>256059045
>I don't give a shit if you guys cry over the quality of the games, it's my money
That's the whole fucking point of modern Nintendo.
It's why they ruled the game industry with an iron fist. They MADE SURE GAMES WEREN'T COMPLETE SHIT. THEY DIDN'T WANT AWFUL GAMES LIKE ATARI HAD IN THE EARLY 80s
>Someone tossing out piss-poor bat
>Gotta put in an anime image to draw in the few autists who get mad over that stuff
Good to see /v/ is as stupid as ever
>>256059045
>arrived late for the wii gravy train
>thinks there's money to be made in mobile gaming
>invests without doing research
>investing during an economic rescission
>investing in an industry that was hit most by the recession
>posting worst girl
>>256060429
They do the same thing, beyond having an exclusive here and there, and that's all consumers care about. Especially in this day in age, if it looks pretty buy it.
If there was a current Mario game that had the graphical quality of a PS4/One then people might actually decide to buy a Nintendo console to try it out, if only because it looks pretty and it's a well known series.
The community has long since been dead.
>>256052991
Of course Mr Yamauchi's son is the real candinate for President because in Japan family ties are very important. Regardless of how Iwata performs he will be ALWAYS an outsider inside the company as that's how Japs think.
It's not n't know.necessarily a good thing, I don't know.
>>256052991
I agree with Iwata about everything but shunning online. If the Wii-U had a decent online service and more first party titles implemented online MP then it would be fucking perfect.
>>256060463
Ever notice how these shitposters always have an anime avatar?
