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>FFVII:R will be split into multiple parts
>Each entry will have the volume of content equal to a full-sized game
>There will not be any new characters.
>Character models are being supervised by Visual Work's director.
>The team is staying away from total realism for the designs, since it might make certain characters hard to recognize. Instead, they are going to make them as real as possible, while keeping the character's personality and design intact.
>Advent Children's model data is over ten years old, so they cannot use it, even if that were the direction the team had decided upon.
>Everything from the recent trailer, aside from the recycled E3 Trailer footage, was real-time. The end scene where Cloud gets off the train transitions directly into gameplay.
>Cloud looking sick is partly due to the lighting. Nojima thinks Cloud's sickly appearance is brilliant.
>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design. However, this is not representative of the development timeline, as they are working out of order. For example, Nomura designed President Shinra back in June, 2015.
>All the party member's designs are renewed like Barret's. At first they thought of going with the Advent Children design for Barret, but decided against it.
>Both the ATB and Limit gauge are present, but work differently than in the original. The ATB turning red is particularly important.
>Battle tempo will be similar to Dissidia. Battle system is being made by people who have experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.

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>Nomura: "If we tried to stuff the whole game into one release, some parts of the game would have to appear as digests. We'd have to remove some of the original content from the game, and it would be especially difficult to add anything more. Considering that a full remake of the original game must be achieved, we have decided to split the game into multiple episodes."
>Kitase: "Taking the No.8 Street shown in the recent trailer, even just this is already highly dense. If we are to remake the content of the original version at that quality, it would be impossible to do with a single release. Splitting the original version into episodes with nothing dropped, as well as adding complements, and remaking the game in it's full volume is what we are thinking."
>Kitase: "Unlike the encounter battles in the original version, we're aiming for seamless, active battles like those shown in the recent trailer."
>Nomura: "Since the game is based on Final Fantasy VII, elements like the ATB Gauge and Limit Breaks will appear, but with new usage [to reflect the new combat system]. Please wait for our further announcements on how they will evolve."
>Nomura: "We are planning to dig deeper with the story in the episodes. Players who have played the original surely know everything from the game, including many very important moments. We would love to give even these players surprises."
>Kitase: "We are not going to remake a game so you only play for nostalgia. We want to make the hearts of the original fans pump. Additions will be made with this goal clear in the minds of the team."

Sources:
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/173/1173362/
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html
http://gematsu.com/2015/06/final-fantasy-vii-remake-wont-have-new-characters
http://thelifestream.net/news/final-fantasy-vii-news/33038/ffvii-remake-nomura-interview-translation-from-famitsu/
http://kotaku.com/sounds-like-the-final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-be-episod-1746564216
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>>319334983
>>Cloud looking sick is partly due to the lighting. Nojima thinks Cloud's sickly appearance is brilliant.
Let's just swallow the bullet.
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>>319335270
Wasn't cloud actually sick though? Didn't zack jut die and he only just came out of experiments / a coma?
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>>319335487
I was wondering if they were going to update his model as the games are released
By the last disc you have a roided up cloud with a beard
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>>319335487
No, don't try to rationalize this bullshit. Cloud and Zack were taking a mako bath for 5 years, effectively strengthening them, not making them look sick. Cloud's buster sword was always ridiculous, but with those noodle fucking arms it's even worse than grotesque. Fuck, even Lightning from FF13 has more muscle than he does.
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>>319334983
You have restored my faith desu

Thank you anon
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>Each entry will have the volume of content equal to a full-sized game

Being conservative that should be 30 hours an episode
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>>319336464
But we're talking an average PS4 game, like Until Dawn, or Order 1886. So up to 5 hours.
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>>319336464

So two parts, maybe three. You could effectively main run the game in 40 hours on ps1.

Though desu I'm expecting 3 twenty hour releases, and I'm fine with that. I have a job and shit now.
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>>319335270

Cloud had been in a coma for several years and woke up from being in a metal break down state just a few days before the start of the game.

Him being a hulking superman at the beginning of the game would make no sense.


People comment on him being skinny throughout the game and he was drawn as such in the artwork too.


Dumbasses are too used to the Kingdom Hearts and AC design to remember that he was never meant to be a manly man.
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>>319334983

>while keeping the character's personality and design intact.
>All the party member's designs are renewed like Barret's

k.
Also this probably means no giant moogle for Cait sith because Nomura doesn't think it's "c00l enuff :^)"
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>>319336717
He was in a super soldier test tube
That's like saying the monsters. In the mako reactors should come out as skeletons not the hulk monsters that were in the tubes
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>FFVII:R will be split into multiple parts
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>>319336717
>would make no sense
Are you really, honestly, unironically trying to use an argument like "make no sense" in a game, where a character with spaghetti arms effortlessly swings a 60lbs sword?
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This Ff7 diet will be good portion control is where it's all at these days
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>>319336541
If you are going to make a movie you might as well go big like the 8 hours of cutscenes in MGS4
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>there will be plot changes

They've fucking revived Aeris, haven't they?
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>>319335487
>Didn't zack jut die and he only just came out of experiments / a coma?
It's implied to have been a few months between coming out of potato status and the beginning of FF7.
Lifting and swinging that hefty sword and traveling for that long shouldn't leave him with a sickly appearance.
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>>319334983
>Each entry will have the volume of content equal to a full-sized game
>"a full-sized game"

This is what bothers me the most. "full sized games" range from 10 hours to over 100 hours of content. FFVII wasn't THAT long of an RPG, so depending on how many parts they split it into it could be pretty insulting.
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>>319337517
>Save Aeris
>Gives you a bad end 20 hours later
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>>319337517
>Aeris revived
You know it's not happening.
You know THIS is happening.
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>>319337035
Just like the discs on the PS1
:^)
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>>319337724
No one should be able to move with that sword like Cloud does in the first place retard. Why are you idiots trying to bring real world logic to the literal posterboy of JRPG heroes with oversized weapons?
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>>319337797
I liked genesis
So pissed every other week I'll remember the ff7 series ended on a cliffhanger and just get mad for like 10 minutes
Now it's rebooting and we never got the final chapter of that dam game I wouldn't mind if it was released in a small novel just give me the fucking ending already
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>>319337997
Realistically this game should have been the Final Chapter of Final Fantasy 7 set after DoC.
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>>319337997
It ended, mang. Here's the ending:
Before Crisis never happened
Dirge of Cerberus never happened
Advent Children never happened
Crisis Core happened, but Genesis didn't exist.
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>>319337907
>game is trying to look and feel as realistic as possible
>forgets the basics
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>>319337517

I don't know why everyone is taking plot alterations to be huge changes. I think it'll just be small things here and there, like tie ins to other parts of the compilation, maybe some new scenes and quests.
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>>319338384
Okay guess we should cut Red XIII then cause animals don't talk
Oh and JENOVA has to go too cause aliens don't exist
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do you fuckers realize that most of the towns were two screens big

Midgar wasn't much bigger

They're going to have to expound on so much shit to make it feel as big as you nostalgiafags remember it being
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>>319337907
Fine anon.
>make cloud
>make him skinnier and more sickly than any of his other appearances and concept art
If you honestly think that looks good you should kill yourself and everyone you love.
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>>319338398
Everyone is jumping to the worst possible conclusions about every bit of news because /v/ is as hungry for the next big blunder as ever. It's business as usual. I mean hell look at the shitstorm over 30 seconds of gameplay that turns out to be not all that different from how FF12 worked, barely one step removed from being normal ATB.
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What if the first part had the whole open world on it and the midgar section and quests, the other episodes act as expansion packs that add more story content, side quests and items into the game world? (ex: Chocobos, highwind, the Weapons, cutscenes, etc)
Part one you would probably be confined to the first comtinent as they add and complete more features to part two. That's how I would do it at least.
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>>319338480
>AS POSSIBLE
Meaning the characters should have realistic proportions and looks dumbass.
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>>319338398
I actually feel different I enjoy else world stories injustice and flashpoint
I wouldn't mind if the story was completely remixed into something insane like cloud dies sack lives sephiroth not a villain aerith is
Cids black not Barrett
I enjoy those twists
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>>319338480
>>319338384
Can you not understand English or are you guys fucking with me?

They're clearly talking about character designs. AKA, they won't be using cel shading or anything. Trying to look more real than that.

How is that hard to grasp?
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>>319338480
>cause aliens don't exist
Nice try, Area 51.
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>>319338565
>>make him skinnier and more sickly than any of his other appearances and concept art
Nigga the only FF7 character that's ever had huge arms was Barret
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>>319334983
>Each entry will have the volume of content equal to a full-sized game

That doesn't indicate anything though. To some people in the video game industry a full-sized game is a two hour walking sim.
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>>319338707
>Nigga the only FF7 character that's ever had huge arms was Barret
Sephiroth was buffed as fuck.
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>>319337517
I hope they just don't fuck up the player dependent areas of the game, they were made that way for a reason. Shit like having a permanent, canon date on the Golden Saucer would piss me the fuck off.
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>>319338707
>what is reading comprehension
Cloud has always been skinny but what we have is a whole new tier of it.
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>>319334983
>>All the party member's designs are renewed like Barret's.

The game is ruined.
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>>319339064
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the only thing that changed was he has shades now?
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>>319338989
Looks the same to me senpai
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>>319338958
That would legit make me angry forced canon in a game with choices
I really like how everyone can have a unique experience with ff7 I've never tried but can you complete the game without Vincent and yuffie?
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>>319339176
And a tanktop under his belt girdle thing. Way better than whatever the hell they did to him in AC
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>>319339176

That's the biggest change. His haircut looks a little different, it's not as flat as before and I've heard people say something about bags on his legs or something, but everything is pretty minor. If everyone else's goes through minor changes like that I'll be cool with it.
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>>319339289
Yeah, you can. They were optional characters that you could get.
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>>319334983
So combat is going to be garbage?
I played Dissidia on emulator and it was shit. No idea about KH combat though, as I'm not a shitter.
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>>319339176
And a shirt. I don't mind Barret's new design. The changes are so fucking small no one should care. And I'm fairly sure the shades will be gone at some point.
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Why does he have ONE shoulder pad??
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>>319337517
Save Jessie!
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>>319339430
He's only half soldier half civilian
Half demon half angel
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>>319338595
>barely one step removed from being normal ATB.
Dude, the trailer told us everything about the current state of the battle system.
It's full KH ARPG style until the gauge fills up and you won't be able to attack.

From there my personal conclusion is that you would have to switch to another character and continue until the gauge has emptied on the other character.
Of course this part is just speculation based on what we have.

Anyway it's literally the reverse of ATB.
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>>319335112
They REALLY need to clarify what kind of release model is gonna be in place for this "multiple parts" business.
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>>319339445

I've never heard people talk about her at all until maybe a year, or perhaps 2, ago. I don't know why she suddenly has so many fans.
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>>319339445
>>319339445
>>319339445

Mother fuckin this

Fuck Aerith, that prostitute.
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>>319339258
I can't tell if you genuinely believe that or are just in denial.
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>>319339430
Less weight. He only uses one side for defense, hence the asymmetrical armor
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>>319339430
It's why I wear only one watch because I masturbate with the other hand
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>>319339430
Isn't that what the sword rests on?

Same as Ike.
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Damn it's going to be so hard to wait for the full game like I am for fallout 4. I know I'm gonna break and buy the first episode
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>>319338235
This.
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>>319334983
Honestly, the only part I'm still hesitant about it how long the parts/episodes are going to be, and what pricing scheme they have in mind. Hopefully Square are aware that most everyone interested has this concern to some degree. It'd be nice if the game's presence at Jump Festa was a stage show with some interviews and clarifications on what they have planned.

Everything else looks and sounds totally fine to me.
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>>319339795
Wow funny I couldn't tell if you were being retarded either.
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>>319340138
Yeah guys, let trust Sqeenix, the company that can't even make a MAIN SERIES GAME, to work on a remake that plays EXACTLY LIKE THE MAIN SERIES.

Holy fuck, neo-/v/ needs to leave, you are an idiot if you buy into the same shit Squeenix pulls because of the number 7.
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>>319340385

>Holy fuck, neo-/v/ needs to leave

Honestly, we're the ones who need to leave at this point, there's so few old timers left anymore.
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>>319340267
He says ignoring the obvious flaws in the design.
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>>319340385
Go to bed, grandpa.
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>>319339759
I liked her from the very beginning, granted I was like 11 when FFVII launched so my tastes were even shittier than they are now. She just dies so quickly, and you learn just about nothing about her, that it's pretty easy to move on from her to Tifa and Aerith. Hoping the jobber trio gets fleshed out more before the gigantic plate pancakes them. Their deaths clearly hit Barret like a ton of bricks, perhaps they could share that feeling with the player this time.
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>Episodic content
eh..thats fine.. I guess. I can't wait to...wait.

>Combat replaced by Dissidia/Kingdom Hearts gameplay

Oh boy I cant wait to press square over and over. Then maybe hit the D pad a few times. If Im REAL clever, maybe Ill dodge with O.

Why remake a game where you alienate your base fandom by changing the core to fit to the liking of faggots accustomed to Kingdom Hearts and FF13 combat.

inb4
>lol turn based is fucking terrible anyway
>implying anybody who says this was an actual fan of the series before FF13
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>>319340558
Its weird being here since 2005.
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>>319340651
>>319340558
Actually, let me take that back
even neo-/v/ doesn't bother with modern FF shit.

If you buy this because of it being FF7, then you are an autist.
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>>319340649
What flaws? That it doesn't have the polycount of a PS1 game?
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>>319334983
>AI Controller party members

fucking shit
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>>319340704
>FF7R fans.jpg
Holy shit thats perfect
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>>319340704

>Oh boy I cant wait to press square over and over. Then maybe hit the D pad a few times. If Im REAL clever, maybe Ill dodge with O.

Though I never cared if it used the old system or an ARPG system, I'd probably choose the old if I S-E asked me personally, but come on, man, you could say the same thing about the old system.

>Oh yay, I get to press X!
>Sometimes I'll use the D-Pad to move up or down in a menu so I can press X again!

If you like turn-based better that's fine, just don't use a poor arguement.
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>>319340385
Fucking this.

Its staggering how much faith /v/ has in Squeenix. It's like they completely forgot about the mediocre content they've made since X2.

Or that theyve had FF15 in the works for...what? 8 years now? This should be a clear indicator of how far between episodes its going to be.

And how much money theyre going to make on individual purchases oi vey
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>>319340937
By definition of it being real-time there needs to be some AI control, you can only control one character at a time after all. You can still switch between party members though.
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>>319340704
If the game was exactly the same it would be fucking boring. If that's what you want, there's an HD port.

I'd rather they fundamentally change the game instead of just redoing the assets to cash in on the nostalgia.

The only people who want the game to be the same are a small group of hardcore nostalgiafags who would have more fun just playing the original anyway.
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>>319340704
> base fandom
I like the new combat alot more than the old one
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The only real drawbacks is shit tier combat system and episodic bullshit.
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>>319340794

I've only been here since 2006, but I've only come here now and then since 2012.
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>>319341106
>Its staggering how much faith /v/ has in Squeenix

I guess some people just like video games and don't care about company drama.
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>>319341112
no shit sherlock.
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>>319335270

No problem at all with that, the guy spent over a year in a tank being pumped full of alien bacteria and mako energy.
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>>319340839
What if I buy it because I like the direction this is going? The combat honestly looks the way my childhood brain imagined they would be fighting back in the day. That was part of the point of turn based right? Letting you imagination fill in the gaps. And seeing EXACTLY how I pictured it nearly 20 years later makes me feel happy.
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>>319341262

You don't need to care about company drama to see shit for what it is.
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>>319341262
That's not the /v/ contrarian way you piece of shit, now start hating everything and bitch constantly about those journos you don't care about!
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>>319341262
>I guess some people just like video games and don't care about company drama.
>I don't care what the PERSON MAKING A VIDEO GAME does, I care about the video game THEY'RE MAKING
>even though this isn't even company drama, its actually based on the game
Kill yourself, you god damn moron.
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>>319341397
I just wanna play the game, though.

I have no reason to distrust Square-Enix or whatever because I don't pay attention to pointless shit. If they make a game I wanna play, I'll play it. Hopefully I'll like it.
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>>319341098
I dont think the old system was complex or rewarding. The old game mechanics thrived on skill/action selection and then you watch the conclusion.

It's not meant to keep you on your toes. Its not meant to engross your "immersion". It was meant to be a fucking menu.

That alone shouldnt be a justifyable reason to change it. Just because the new age of FF "fans" want ACTION and BLACKNZIPPERS.

This game is supposed to be a love letter to the fandom that brought Squeenix to where it is now. Not cater to the knuckle dragging cunts that want an action game with an FF skin applied.
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>>319340558
I hear 8ch's /v/ is pretty nice except for the huge GG threads.
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>>319335112
I would a cross dressed cloud.
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Oh boy, can't fucking wait for them to butcher Tiffa's costume and decrease the volume of her tits!
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>>319341482
>game gets split into separate parts to make more money
>people are mad
>WAAAAAAH WAAAAAAH WHY DONT PEOPLE LIKE WHAT I LIKE
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>>319340704
>>319334983
>>319340138
>>319340385
>>319341134
Square doesn't need to appeal to the OG fans. They have you by the fucking balls.

The think is, FFVII is iconic at this point. The 27 yr old og fans don't matter.

Modern nerd/faggot culture did not exist when FFVII came out. Every fucking 16yr old nerd/anime fan knows about FFVII, knows who cloud and Sephiroth are, and know the game is a big deal.

I know plenty of people who say this shit
"I like FFVII and think it has a cool story, but the graphics look bad. I couldn't finish it"

Square will now appeal to these kingdom hearts autist and the aged OG fans.

Its the perfect plan.
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Why not just remake the game in the same molds of CC/Type-0? Why the obsession with ultra realistic graphics and massive pixel density everywhere?

I'd rather have them spend time on great orchestrated tracks and a fun battle system instead of graphics wank.
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>>319341534
>I don't care what the PERSON MAKING A VIDEO GAME does

No, I don't. If I cared about all the horrible corporate shit going on I think I'd lose my hair from the stress. There's no point in concerning yourself with stuff you can't do anything about aside from get upset. I'm just trying to have fun with my hobby.
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>>319341169
>only
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>>319334983
>Each entry will have the volume of content equal to a full-sized game
OH BOY

FUCKING
I
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L
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THANKS SQUEENIX
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>>319341560
>splitting a game into parts to milk your pockets
>not important
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>>319341758
>>game gets split into separate parts to make more money

Why do you assume it's to make more money and not for the reasons they've said?
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>>319341806
It's pretty clear this remake is aimed at the new generation who never played the original FFVII but love Sephiroth and Cloud because of Advent Children or whatever.
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>>319341894
>I'm just trying to have fun with my hobby.
Except your "fun" revolves around paying $60 for one part of a game, $60 for another, and $60 for another part PLUS DLC.

This isn't corporate drama, this is the company fucking YOU in the ass.
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>>319341990
I'd imagine anyone who's not a retard or a reactionary doomsayer is going to wait and see exactly what the content and pricing of these parts is gonna be.
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>>319341560

>I have no reason to distrust Square-Enix or whatever because I don't pay attention to pointless shit.

I don't pay attention to a lot of shit either, but it's hard not to see a pattern after playing enough of their games and just looking at the shit they do. I haven't enjoyed a new FF in 15 years. The only Kingdom Hearts game I really like is the first one. Dragon Quest is good but I'm fortunate enough to be able to read Japanese, but fans who can't have been shit on for years for literally no reason. They released a failed MMO and then sank all their money into it trying to save it; they only got away with that with that amazing luck that only the severely touched seem to possess. That's not to mention their stint trying to make westernized games like... I can't even remember the name of it, but that didn't work out for them.

You can look forward to FF VII R all you want, that's fine, but those who aren't are not necessarily enthused because of "company drama" and "pointless shit".
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>>319342023
Because you are a god damn idiot if you think that FF7R is "too big to fit into one game"

We explained this several times to you and you still don't listen.
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>>319341806
Sounds about right. Look at all the retards who did live reaction videos to Cloud's Smash reveal. I can only think of 3 people who knew what it was within the first few notes of the song, like a true fucking fan should, out of dozens of people. That's the audience they would like to court, since they know those of us who were basically raised on FFVII will purchase the game regardless.
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>We'll split the game into multiple parts because it would take a long time to make the game from ground up in the way we want using current technology

Then why not just... you know, scale down a bit your initial artistic vision and make something that can fit within a 3 year dev cycle instead?
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>part 1 of FF7R will be the same size in terms of content as FFXV
Bullshit.
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>>319342159
Source on price?
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>>319342159
>Except your "fun" revolves around paying $60 for one part of a game, $60 for another, and $60 for another part PLUS DLC.

Where are people getting these prices from?

This is /v/'s flavor of cynicism at its worst. At least wait for more details than none at all to come out before you start calling for the endtimes.
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>>319341590

>This game is supposed to be a love letter to the fandom that brought Squeenix to where it is now. Not cater to the knuckle dragging cunts that want an action game with an FF skin applied.

This is the gaming industry in 2015. A big company is always going to try to appeal to the mass market with everything they do now.
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>>319342328
Because
>muh AAA integrity
>muh realism
and so on and so forth.

What they don't understand is that artstyle will always trump realism in the end because the next generation will instantly date it.
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>>319342318
my first thought at hearing the music during the direct was ff7 remake on nx as a launch title
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>>319339660
See pic
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>>319334983

The game looks like trash. If I wanted to play the game with an active battle system, I'd play a more recent Final Fantasy game. But now, my teammates are all going to be AI controlled? The game basically doesn't play like FF7, and it is just a different game with the same storyline and characters? No thanks. Into the garbage it goes.
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>>319340704
>game series drift completely away from the core basic gameplay
>It's okay, it's evolving! :^)
Fuck that shit
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>>319342023
Easy.

Because before showing any sort of pricing or business plan, they're already claiming each episode will about the same content as a full game.

Take a step back and think about this. What qualifies as a full game? Game length? Data size? Price?

Im willing to bet 50 internet funbucks that it's because they developed at the pace of a herd of snails, and it isnt cost effective in the long run with a single release.

So fuck it. Make lemons out of lemonade. Release it slowly, charge 30-60$ per episode (cause FFaggots WILL pay it), and ultimately finish the game with easily quadruple more bank.

You HAVE to accept that SquareEnix is an overall shitty company now. Their current fandom is shallow and stupid, and their games will be made for them.
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>>319341590
>I want this game to be a love letter to the fandom that brought Squeenix to where it is now

FTFY

What the game is "supposed to be" isn't determined by you.
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>>319342479
>>319342459
>>319342205
>hey guys, you know that company that is known for breaking its game apart and selling each piece for full price?
>lets just assume that for one of their biggest moneymakers, completley riding on nostalgia and hype, they aren't going to do it!
>because Squeenix is sooo nice!

Neo-/v/ is real and its obvious people just got out of school.
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>>319342636
>But now, my teammates are all going to be AI controlled?

So.. just like FFXII?

I wouldn't mind a revamped Gambit system for FFVII:R
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>>319342459
Not him but he's probably making assumptions based on budget and what they're attempting to do.
After all you can't turn a profit by selling a portion of a game that's the size of a full game at $20. Something has to give either quality wise or price wise.
Considering this is a fairly greedy company it's always going to fall back on the consumer to pay.
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>>319342625
>>319342625
but that's an actual jrpg filled with content vs a generic action rpg cinematic experience
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>>319342727
Look, if you're gonna pull bullshit out of your ass that's fine, but at least admit to it when called out.
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>>319342727
Not to mention that Square Enix just tried to scam people with Deus Ex, that shows they're totally not in it for the money right?

Yeah, people we're shitting on this all night yesterday, don't know what the fuck happened today
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>>319341630

It's not bad. Not quite as nice as it was at the start, but it's not bad. I wouldn't say it equals 2006 or earlier 4chan /v/, but it's certainly better than here for the most part. Too bad most Dragon Quest fans seem to have remained here. And you can just ignore the GG threads. I don't even know why they still exist.
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>>319342692
>Their current fandom is shallow and stupid, and their games will be made for them.

Granted the ff7 fandom isn't much better, but it's larger than the current dead zombies who enjoytheir recent releases. If they fuck this up they will poison this well. Hell it's already kinda poisoned. Only Crisis core is worth anything to FF7 fans.
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>>319342328
You can't fit FFVII into a 3 year dev cycle without some Xenoblade tier graphics, and cut content out the ass. That game is fuckin huge, and I don't mean overworld huge like Xeno.

I think the most important thing they are thinking, however, is that this is their most successful video game ever, the game that more or less popularized RPGs, especially during that tumultuous transition to 3D. At the time the graphics were cutting edge, so it stands to reason they would want a lot of pomp and circumstance for this remake. Everything top of the line and shiny. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I can see the thought process. We're already seeing here, if the game is anything less than perfect, it is going to be absolutely crucified. Perhaps they are hoping they can make everything top of the line, and release it in parts to recoup costs as the best financial move.
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Will this come to PC eventually? All the other FF games have been.
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>>319342692
This. This corporate PR horseshit about "full-length content" is nothing more than damage control to soften the blow of the fact that neo-Square can't figure out a way to make FF7 with this quality of graphical bling without charging $120+ for the base game. XV has been in development for nearly a decade, there's no reason to believe 7R won't be the same, and they flat can't afford to spend that much money with no revenue to show for it until 2022 or later. The game's being hacked up and sold in pieces in hopes that you stupid fuckers forget to do the math and figure out just how much they're charging you to tart up the graphics and fuck up the gameplay of a game from 1997.
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Tell me when it isn't grimdark edgy with grey everywhere, then I'll consider this.
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>>319342151
>>319342318
I'm still excited about the game, but I doubt I will play it anytime soon.

I think this shit would apply to most OG FFVII fans, seeing how most of us are late 20s early 30s.

At 27, I'm about to get married, graduate college off the GI bill, start a professional career.

Episodic? Fuck man, I don't have time for games like that. I'm pretty much playing dadcore games at this point.
Its a shame, FFVII was so much fun back in the day.
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>>319342929
>prove that they're going to scam you
>they do it all the time
>hahaha you're just bullshitting me
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>>319341590
>This game is supposed to be a love letter to the fandom that brought Squeenix to where it is now. Not cater to the knuckle dragging cunts that want an action game with an FF skin applied.
10/10
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>>319343078
That's 7's shtick anon.
It's not going anywhere.
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>>319342328
I don't trust modern squeenix to remake all of FF7 up to people's overblown nostalgia for the original with modern AAA graphics in just 3 years.
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>>319342023

Because I'm cynical and their reason doesn't fucking make sense. They could just release it on multiple discs if it were true, but they're pretending like that's not an option anymore.
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>>319342727
Could you be any more of a cynical faggot? I would bet money it's not going to be the price of a full game, personally I'm thinking $40. Much like how Type-0, and FFXIV were sold for $40. Still not great, cause it will probably be at least 3 games since hurrr rule of threes, but you've been chugging too much bitter old man drink if you think it will be $60 a pop.
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>>319343003
>You can't fit FFVII into a 3 year dev cycle without some Xenoblade tier graphics

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't mind the remake looking like pic related, it would still be a huge improvement over the original and give time for the devs to work on actual content and not just graphics.
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>>319342734

Yeah, like FFXII. Except this is FFVII, and I was looking forward to actually playing the game, not playing FFXII with Cloud in it.
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It's pointless speculating until we get actual details.
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>>319334983
>>>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design. However, this is not representative of the development timeline, as they are working out of order. For example, Nomura designed President Shinra back in June, 2015.
Okay I'm getting PS4 once FF7R is out
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Square Enix and Telltale Games presents: Final Fantasy 7

1: Midgar
2: Kalm to Junon
3: Costa del Sol to Cosmo Canyon
4: Nibelheim to Rocket Town and Wutai
5: Temple of the Ancients to Aeris' death
6: Icicle Inn to Crater
7: Escape from Junon and Search for Cloud
8: The search for the Huge Materia and return of Cloud
9: Diamond Weapon and the Midgar Raid
10: The Final Battle with Sephiroth

Each episode 8-15 hours (full game by 2015 standards) of on-rails padded-out cutscene hallways with no sidequests, exploration, secrets or access to other episode content, culminating in "To be continued" cliffhangers. $20-30 each, 1 episode per year. Please look forward to it.
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>>319343678

You're right.

Maybe if we're lucky we'll get another trailer 2 years from now showing the same train station.
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FFVII is a big game, but you know what's bigger? How people REMEMBER FFVII.

Most of the towns were like two fucking screens big. Midgar isn't much bigger. To remake the entire game, and add stuff so it feels as big as you nostalgiafags remember it is a monumental undertaking.

They're not going to work for fucking years to pack all that into one game for $60 bucks. That shit costs money. They're a company, not fucking Mother Teresa. Just be happy we're not getting a slimmed down version- that we're actually getting the full fucking game, and wait to buy it until all the episodes are out.

Fuck, you people are insufferable.
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>>319343678
And when has that ever stopped /v/?
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>>319343519
Didn't you watch the trailer man? It looks like theres control over Cloud at one point and Barrett at another. So you could assume that you'd be able to play as whatever character you wanted to throughout battles. Seems pretty cool to me.
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>>319343390
>I would bet money it's not going to be the price of a full game
And ensure they don't make a profit off of it?

>Much like how Type-0
Remaster, didn't require as much time and effort to make it.

>FFXIV
Isn't this subscription based? They make bank on that shit as long as they have players.
They can afford to make the base game cheaper because the players have to hand over money to play online.
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>>319343880
Never, of course.

Gotta keep shitting on games we'll all end up playing anyway.
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>>319343695
It's confirmed to be on Xbone and PC too.
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>>319343813
Enjoy your check, defense force
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>>319343986
Oh man, source? I so called another console would get it, now I just need the proof.
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>>319343986
>PC
senpai ...
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People, see it this way:

FFVII remake isn't aimed at you who played the original version on your PS console, but for the new generation who didn't play it on the console but emulated years later, read wikipedia synopsis and thinks they knows everything about the game or because they heard it from journos, a.k.a. bloggers, that it was the best game of all time.

Just move on with the game and play the GOTY version with all the episodes included when you find it in the bargain bin in 2023.
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>>319344042
Waiting to see whether they fuck it up or not is being a defense force now?
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>>319343390
>I would bet my money that they aren't going to monetize their biggest release!
I would bet my money you came out of a special ed classroom.
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>>319342636
>Waaaah I just want to play FF7 again
Then go play FF7 again, faggot.
You don't even know how the new game is going to play yet.
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>>319343813

Tifa looks good in any kind of clothing.
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>>319343813

>はいてたのか

What's he saying here? I know he's asking about wearing something that short, just not sure why はいて is present tense and is followed by a past tense いた
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>>319344105
If you we're "waiting" to see whether they fuck it up then you wouldn't be rabidly defending it.
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>>319340385
SE are literally all over the fucking place, they can't even give their current big MMO moneymaker a decent enough size team to pump out actual good content anymore and they've taken 8 years to finish FFXV. Saddam Hussein was alive when they announced this shit.
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>>319336717
i dont remember cloud being particularly manly.
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>>319334983
>>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design. However, this is not representative of the development timeline, as they are working out of order. For example, Nomura designed President Shinra back in June, 2015.
Anyone else hoping they have an option to make him dress like Lightning? The meta humor alone would make it worth doing.
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>>319344105
>They are a company, so it's okay to jew real hard
You call that "Waiting to see"?
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>>319344094
>FFVII remake isn't aimed at you who played the original version on your PS console, but for the new generation
Which is why they should have kept most of the game intact while remaking the assets on top of adding a fuckload more content.

Getting the new generation to play a game barely resembling the old one outside of the characters is a ridiculous idea if you're using that reasoning.
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>>319344094
The only people who want it are nostalgia faggots. Aiming it at people who never played the original is setting yourself up for failure.
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>>319344457

No more Lightning please
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>>319344596
The joke is that Lightning was initially just a Genderswapped Cloud.
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>>319344416
He was manly enough
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>>319343390
>I would bet money it's not going to be the price of a full game, personally I'm thinking $40.
Nigga this game is going to be nearing the triple mils in budget given their word and aspirations. Especially if they do the advertising themselves again.

You really think they're going to charge you less than full price for a portion of the game that's supposedly the size of a full game?
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>>319344286
>hurr durr randomly speculate the worst possible scenario or ur a shill

jump off a fucking bridge you worthless cunt
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>>319344592
This
Why would someone who has never played the game before invest in a game that is advertised as incomplete? And with square's current reputation amongst new gamers I think this episodic release will be looked back upon as a poor desicion
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>>319344673
>was initially
*is
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>>319344907
That's arguable, since Cloud actually had a personality in FFVII, Lightning didn't have a personality in FFXIII.
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>>319338673
you cannot write for the life of you. wtf did you just say
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>>319345012
You got me there
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>>319344248
はいて isn't present, it's te-form.
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>>319345012
>since Cloud actually had a personality in FFVII
Yeah, Zack's.
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Will Yuffie still have the short shorts?
Will Aerith still almost take the knot?
Will Tifa have jiggle physics when running?
Will Cid still be the best?
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>>319346623
A personality is a personality.
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>>319346663
If Yuffie's shorts aren't unbuttoned, then I'll get upset.
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The problem with an episodic release imo is that a full version of the game has already been released. If someone is captivated by the story but is unsatisfied with the gameplay there is no reason for this person to waste any more time and money into the new version. Why wait years for the next episode and spend 60$ and 60 hours to discover plot points that have been broken down and analyzed by probably millions of people for almost 20 years!
And what if a nostalgiafag is unsatisfied? Well they already know what happens and probably have the original on their computer, anyway.
Imo the best way for square to maximize profit is release the whole game at once for the full price of all the episodes put together. If it is 150$ so be it, I bet that people will still pony up the money. At least that way an unsatisfied customer (something square should be very aware of) will have already spent as much money as they possibly can on the game before they realize they didn't like it.
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