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How are you supposed to fight multiple enemies with the camera like that?
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and why is there no combo counter?
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by mashing square. you don't seem to understand modern """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""games"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>341450331
god of war isn't just mashing square, bud. It's also pressing triangle occasionally
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is this console exclusive?
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>>341449872
You don't.
It's not the same type of game anymore, get over it
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>>341449872
The enemies all fight you one on one while waiting patiently in the sidelines :D
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Why does it take the god of war 10 hits to kill a regular mob enemy?
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>>341449872
Because the shit we saw was a video. No one played it. The game will work differently when it comes out.
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camera zooms out when necessary. Plenty of games do it
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>>341451152
its probably a "brutal execution" move that gets you more orbs (or whatever they replaced orbs with)
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>>341451296
this

The camera will be zoomed out like it is in this webm, when he fights the troll
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>Game does all the cool shit for you while you smash one button
PS4 may as well just be a dvd player at this point
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>>341451654
that's how every action game works though. Maybe not to the extent of GoW's "execution moves," but for regular hits it does
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>>341449872
I don't think we will, for the most part. Not quite like the games used to work, at least. I think the combo/air juggle/crowd control combat is gone. Seems to be taking a more (3D) Zelda-y approach, given what we've seen and what Barlog has said. Not sure the game needed to be God of War, but I am cautiously optimistic.

The game will definitely have more actiony parts where the camera adjusts, like the troll fight. We'll probably get some more enemies at a time in those instances, but I'm not expecting swarms.
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>>341449872
The same way you fight multiple enemies in Dork Souls.

Keep them in front of you.
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>>341450963
God of War is owned by Sony. So yes.
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>>341451194
What makes you think that? I've already seen games on the same level graphics and animation wise
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>>341451072
neogaf please leave
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God Hand did it.
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>>341450963
Retard.
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>>341449872
>Square, square, square, triangle, circle
SUCH COMPLEX COMBOS
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Slowly.
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>>341449872
See your own post >>341450030

There may be limited enemies or slow enemies.
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god of war has always been mediocre
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>>341456649
God Hand sucked, soo will this new GoW.
GoW was a shit game anyway
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>>341450030
>That much work for a simple skeleton minion
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They need to make combat look more fun.
The way Kratos swing axe look boring as hell compare to Blades of chaos.
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>>341451885
You're going to be mashing but a good action game lets you mash different buttons.
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So here's what I see when I watch that Webm.

This is what console gaming is.
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>>341457356
okay
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what's the thing on the top left?
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>>341457356
>God Hand sucked
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>>341450030
it looks like God Hand, Ryse, and God of War all mixed together
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>>341449872
Because it is an adventure game now not an action also isnt kratos dead
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>>341449872
>company makes a sequel
>rehash, give us something new
>company innovates and makes a reboot
>it shit we want old gameplay

Every. Time.
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>>341449872
have you tried pressing both analog sticks to start the cutscene where kratos wins?
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>>341458585
>innovates

what is so new about this shit?
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>>341449872
Aren't you fags always complaining about shit at e3 being scripted? The whole thing was pretty scripted, doubt the camera is going to be like that at all
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>>341449872
more like God of Ryse: Dark Souls edition
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>>341458585
This is not innovation, this is copying Last of Us and other "cinematic" melee systems.
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>>341458585
>Innovates
Bull.Shit. Its the same goddamn shit we've been fed in recent gaming.
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>>341458959
Innovates specifically for the series.
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>>341459203
Where the fuck was Dark Souls in that?
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>>341451519
>just hack at his shin over and over
for fucks sake
why is every single game on e3 this year completely garbage about fighting giant enemies?
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>>341449872
by getting gud and also using this total easy mode combo system, that basically instantkills enemies, if you time it right.
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>>341449872
>new entry of a franchise
>call it the same as the first entry of the franchise
>dumb retards everywhere are forced to call it custom names
Fucking stop, why is it so hard to just call it God of War 4, Doom 4, Quake 5, Battlefront 3, or Need for Speed 15.

Stop you fucking retards.
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>>341459271
Your a dumbass kys
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I don't mind execute cinematics but you should have to actually beat the enemy to trigger them.
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>>341456649
god hand had complex, customizable combos, was genuinely hard, and had a standing dodge rather then just a dodge roll.
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>>341457659
>This is what console gaming is.

As opposed to PC gaming which is strategy and FPS.
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>>341459547
They can keep dodge roll, i don't expect any game to have specific dodging anymore.
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>sacrifice gameplay for narrative
>Slow combat with zero creative combo
>An AI sidekick no one gives a fuck about
If you defend this you are whats wrong with modern gaming
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>>341459808
fuck that shit I hate dodge rolls
looks retarded
give me proper dodge and sidestep please
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>>341459697
And RPGs. And online co-op games. And survival games. And experimental titles. And 4X games. Space games. Competitive games. Online games.

You get the gist.
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>>341459347
name a game with a good fight system against giants, faglord
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>>341459941
Buff man like Kratos can't dip and weave and against bigger enemies i wonder if it would be usefull at all.
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>>341460106
Dragon's Dogma and Shadow of the Colossus
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>>341460106
Dragon's Dogma, too bad about the rest of the game
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>>341460027
Yeah, PC has all that and console only has one type of game.

You're not remotely biased at all.
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>>341460106
shadow of the dragons dogma
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>>341450030
>>341449872
>Interactive movie
I hate what games have become.
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>>341460027
That´s a bit condescending, there are good games on consoles too, just too much AAA trash.
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>>341449872
So how much will the graphics get downgraded?
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>>341460445
Sony doesn't downgrade graphics, they downgrade framerates.
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>Press circle for JASON
They need to show some classic gameplay if they want to win back some of their fanbase
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>>341460428
There is very, very little that comes to console that is no AAA trash.

PC obviously gets all the AAA trash too (minus the exclusives that will never get a port), but there's at least a whole mountain of non-AAA and non-trash alongside it.
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>>341460418
>open world style levels
>in-depth RPG mechanics
>crafting system
>exploration
>loot system
>heavy combat focus
Yeah, what a fucking moviegame amirite
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Still holding on to a hope that this is just a cinematic intro sequence and the real GoW gameplay makes a return after the kid dies or some shit.

Feeling unlikely at this point.
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You guys don't get it, do you? This game is aiming to the pleb audience more than the normies, that's why the MC is a lumbersexual, this is why it's a interactive movie and skyrim inspired.

There's no hope.
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>>341460656
Console basically has a stranglehold on every Japanese game that isn't mobile.

Sure, PC sometimes gets ports years down the line, but console is the main focus.
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>>341460589
>Press Circle to Execute
Yeah that is a normal GoW thing
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>>341460801
>>open world style levels
>>in-depth RPG mechanics
>>crafting system
>>exploration
>>loot system
>>heavy combat focus


Another unique game doing something never done before.
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Isn't this basically Skyrim but with Kratos and bigger boss fights?
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>>341449872
God of War has always been the Sony version of a good action game: dumbed down but cinematic as all fucking shit.
This is not news to people over the age of 12
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>>341460801
delete this
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>>341460957
Sure, I guess. But I mean, Dark Souls/Bloodborne was kind of a fluke for Japan. Most of the stuff coming out of there isn't remotely as interesting or mold-breaking. Outside anime games, I guess, but those aren't really too popular anywhere.
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>>341449872
it's just a demo you know wait to see more of the game
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>>341461067
>every game has to reinvent the wheel to be good
Retard.

I also never said those things make it unique, I said they don't make a moviegame
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>>341460801

Not when all those is under the pillars of something called QTE you RETARDED, you know how all these shit games and the new tomb raider is.

Fuck you pleb.
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>>341461201
>the only interesting Japanese games are Souls games
Holy kill yourself Batman
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>>341461506
Is there anything coming out of Japan right now that isn't AAA trash?
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>>341461404
WAIT YOU MEAN TO SAY GOD OF WAR WILL HAVE QTES

WOW WHO WOULD HAVE FUCKING GUESSED

GUYS STOP THE PRESSES

EVERY OTHER GOD OF WAR IS NOW A MOVIEGAME BECAUSE IT HAS QTES

YOU HEARD IT HERE FROM THIS CHUCKLE FUCK FIRST
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>>341461363

Doesn't have to reinvent the wheel, but a change from the current market will be good. Will make it stand out.

How many open world, rpg, crafting games are out right now?

Easier to count non-open world, non rpg non crafting games
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you dont cause they're doing a shitty dark souls x last of us
i dont even kow why they still called it god of war
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>>341461647
Outside of FFXV, name one AAA Japanese game releasing soon
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The son will be the player character.

Kratos will only be playable in the prelude chapter, a la Pliskin in MGS2.

Note how the experience points gained, shown in the bottom right, refer to what the son is doing and skills he is learning.
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>>341461697

It had bad gameplay with shit ton of QTE's for muh gore and mannerism yes?

Stop being so dense and shitposting fag.
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>>341461647
Countless games. I also wouldn't even consider Persona 5 to be AAA.
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>>341449872

>another qte experience

kek
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>>341461842
not him but name one good japanese game that is releasing soon

protip: retarded turnbased repetitive anime shit doesnt apply
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>>341461715
Again, I didn't say whether or not those things make it good or bad. I said those things do not make a moviegame.

You want to call it unoriginal for all those reasons, go ahead.
But calling it a moviegame is retarded.
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>>341461842
zelda
yakuza
scalebound
gravity rush 2
>>341462219
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>>341462292

Enough of the trivialities.

No one here gives a shit about moviegame terms except you.

It is labeled as a movie game due to the extended cutscenes interrupting gameplay, the minimized player interaction and the overly stressed focus on storyline. You're literally getting triggered over the term rather than what the term means
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>>341462383
>zelda

haha

>yakuza

alright

>scalebound

literally nobody thinks this will be good

>gravity rush 2

first one was terrible and repetitive with cringe inducing, generic anime characters

not to mention every one of those was AAA trash
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>>341462698
sure is summer in here
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>>341462219
gravity rush 2, nioh, last guardian
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>>341460801
Yes, like Tomb Raider and TLoU
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>TFW when you realized this 'cinematic experience' shit isn't just a trend
>TFW you realized it isn't going to stop
>TFW video """"""""""""Games""""""""""""" you loved will keep getting raped for the sake of normies
>TFW new games will continue being TLoU with Asscreed combat.

Whats the least painful way to kill myself?
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There's a new God-o-War? I guess they didn't decide to have him kill Jesus and Mohammad... what's he fighting this time? Skyrim?
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>>341449872
>he never played God Hand
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>>341462383
>scalebound
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>>341456649
God Hand was good and not aping The Last of Us as narrative story with action on the side
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>>341449872
>>341450030
They're going for a mechanics change to pair with what seems like a tonal change.

It's more personal, less emphasis on spectacle. Because it seems like what's important in this development is not gameplay, but presentation of the way Kratos is growing as a person.

We're going to get a character drama. You know, like the first game--the only good one--was.
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>>341463105
yes?
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>>341457659
Ryse is on PC though :^)
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>We want the Dead Space/RE4 audience
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>>341463105
what a bunch of idiots
people always seem to want to provoke riot police but it never ends well
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>>341451885
>he hasn't played Bayonetta
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>>341463105
>>341463329
why do you have these webm's?
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>>341462881

>he disagrees with me
>MUH SUMMER BOOGEYMAN
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>>341463281
I fucking wish, at least then the game would be fun. This game looks like a fucking slugfest.
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>>341463219
Exactly, they're going for a "more mature" story. One that will make journalists say "I'm glad they did away with the old testosterone-fueled gore display and objectified women. God of War has finally grown up"
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>>341462978
google "exit bag"
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>>341463512
are you new?
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>>341462531
It's clearly the beginning of the game. It's the same as an intro cut scene; the game just opts to let the player in on a few basic things along the way. The footage we got was clearly shown to emphasize the new stuff, like the change in setting and the Kratos/Kid dynamic. Barlog himself said this because he knew everyone would expect all the big action shit anyway. Was it the best choice for E3? Maybe not. But it's just the very beginning of the game.

Everything else we know about the game suggests it will be more like a more action-heavy Zelda than Uncharted.
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>>341450030
>>341451519
>>341449872
Old GoW combat, for comparison's sake
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Hope the next demo shows how a true boss fight (not this one which was clearly a miniboss disguised as a boss) looks like and a battle with several small enemies. Don't doubt the game will be good but there's not enough gameplay to judge it properly since it has changed a lot from the old combat system.
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>>341460801
Delete this please, I need my memes
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>>341463542
This reaction is very trivializing. We can't have a game where the protagonist grows up--especially after how many installations now where the playerbase expressed frustration at how the newer games seems to invalidate his growth in the first one, which was written as an amazing Greek tragedy--without people saying it's pandering?

Come on, guys. Making a decision that happens to be something the populace outside of gaming will likely approve of doesn't instantly make it pandering. It's a tonal shift. A very good one, I think.

I'm excited to see where they go, and I genuinely hope the devs ignore people who say they want yet another mindless spectacle hack-and-slash.
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>>341463812

But it's clear from the get go the child is the main character, in particular due to the distribution of XP points.

Can we really expect an action packed game with the kid?
I mean, look at this video >>341464047
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>>341457391
>Enemies shouldn't be a threat
it's like you want games to be so easy they're not even fun
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>>341464047
well GOW 4 is gona flop, if onyl it had just been more of the same in a different setting, now its just RYSE except with gods and shiet
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As someone that hasn't played any god of war games should i play them before this (and which ones are the best/must play)
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>>341464378
reported
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>>341464195

I think he was talking about the detailing of the enemy itself
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>>341464159
>But it's clear from the get go the child is the main character, in particular due to the distribution of XP points.
The IGN interview piece said that the kid has a dedicated button IIRC. He's a companion the player uses to help solve puzzles and supplement combat.

Like I said, more action-centric Zelda.
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Does it save on Teraflops if they push your character super close so it doesnt have to render anything of significance? Why does pretty much every Ps4 game look like this? might as well play tomb raider considering it looks like it will have the same number of QTE
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>>341464508
They're good games if you like combo-centric combat with some puzzles here and there. But this new game seems to be deliberately setting itself apart from them. So you don't need to.
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>>341464508
1, 2 and 3 are all really good. I'd say 1 is probably the best as an action adventure game but the individual components that make it up are a little more primitive, 2 is really well paced and has the most creative level design, while 3 has the best puzzles and the best combat, probably the best combat of any western hack n slash.

The PSP games are sort of middling, but Ghost of Sparta has a pretty neat story and some character development for Kratos.

Ascension's story mode is crap, the combat, puzzles and level design are a step backwards from 3, although the enemy design is a bit more creative. It's far back enough in the series chronology so Kratos is still a nice person who helps people and has friends, which is kind of novel to see, but otherwise not worth playing. The multiplayer was amazing. It's probably pretty dead now though.
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>>341464115
I can see why they did it, because TLoU was critical calmly acclaimed, but that doesn't mean I have to like it

God of War needed a fresh start. Didn't even matter if Kratos showed up or not. They got rid of the blades or rehash, they have a new setting, except now they choose to focus on story over gameplay. In a fucking God of war game.
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>>341464663
I want to play god of war not zelda
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>>341463459
i just found them while browsing 4chan like everyone finds these webms i suppose
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>>341465007
>in a fucking God of War game
So? If the gameplay is still good and visceral, does it really matter if it focuses more on story? Hell, the closer angles and emphasis on personal growth might even contexualize the violence and make it even MORE intense game.
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>>341464978
I thought Ghost of Sparta was pretty excellent on the whole. Not as good as the first two games, but great.
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>>341449872
You can't you are supposed to enjoy the cinematic experience made by people with little to no knowledge in cinematography.
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>>341464663

So it is exactly like TLoU and B:I. A useless second character no one asked for.
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>>341465374
>If the gameplay is still good
Well there's an assumption
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>>341463340
You mean the square square triangle game?
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>>341465205
I'm not saying you have to like it. I'm just saying the idea that it's a "moviegame" seems relatively unfounded.
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Protip: most E3 gameplay footage is outright fake, or highly different from the final game.

It's proof of concept. Notice how in E3 demos the character never fucking shuts up and narrates every little thing they do?
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>>341464864
it's called LOD

zooming in close on the character models increases the demand on the hardware because character models are very high poly. Often times games will have the backgrounds be very basic when there is an ingame cutscene zoomed in on a character model, so that they can apply more detail to the model. That would not be the case with why it is zoomed in here, because you can look at whatever you want to make the background as complex as anything
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>>341465549
Indeed it is. Because I think it looked serviceable, at least from what little we've seen.
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>>341465568

And exactly how is fighting games?

It doesn't matter what buttons you use as long as they'r pressed at the determined time and order. A combo, if you will.

>>341465431

This. It's a bunch of failed art wannabees who want to do with video games what they never could do in film

>check this angle
>see this slowdown
>look at this pan

No, fuck off. Give me my static overhead cam and let me go buckwiled on enemies.

We have enough OTS action games.

GoW was different for it's camera angles and combat focused gameplay.

Now it's just another over the shoulder, escort, puzzle game focused on story.
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>>341465374
That's a big if though, compare the combat in those
>>341449872
>>341450030
to this
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>>341465431
like you know anything about cinematography
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What is with franchises this e3 just abandoning their entire established gameplay and tone for something that isn't remotely similar to the previous games? Fast-paced arcadey jumping slashing God of War becomes sluggish over the shoulder Ryse dad simulator. Gun-toting zombie blasting over the top Resident Evil becomes first person weaponless PT/Outlast clone. I don't understand.
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>>341465506
If one shared element means "exactly like." I have no idea if the game will be good or not; it's just not sounding like TLoU. I'm willing to admit if I'm wrong, though.
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>>341460106
Dragons fucking dogma you shitter
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Should i play these in order?

Should i buy them on the PS3 or just emulate them on my PC?
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>>341465568
that's funny because people used to call God of War I-III "God of Square-Square-Triangle"
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>>341466423
To be fair, the RE7 demo is not indicative of the full game. It's just aping PT for the YouTube and streambait second hand marketing
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>>341466698
I hope you're right, but it was more fleshed out than you'd expect for something that was just meant to go viral. It even had an inventory system that was vaguely reminiscent of the suitcase stuff.
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>>341465995
was this game all keyframe animated?
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>>341466550
You can get the Saga collection which includes all 5 games for $20
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By positioning yourself in a way where you aren't surrounded.
The change from Axe to Fists may indicate that it has a lot of weapon choices like in the previous GoWs.
I'm cautiosly hyped
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>>341466580
Yeah, but it doesn't change the fact that Bayonetta is exactly the same.
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>>341465995
It's funny because if there's only one left of these assholes you only need O to beat him, no combo needed. That and when enemies bounce on the ground on the ps2/psp games was some major bullshit mechanic that was't fixed till 3 if I recall correctly.
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>>341462219
>if I don't like it, it doesn't count
Classic.
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>>341462531
>point out how retarded a term
>enough of the trivialities
faggot
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>musoubabbies' brains cannot handle the idea that maybe a game could be improved by having the player deal with fewer, more difficult enemies

you people are the reason the new berserk game will be shit; don't breed
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the game looks like utter shit but it's impressive in the sense that i never would have guess that Sony would manage to turn God of War into a slow walking moviegame
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>>341469463
>moviegame
Not an argument.
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>>341467118
>The change from Axe to Fists may indicate that it has a lot of weapon choices like in the previous GoWs.
Probably.
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>>341460184
>Buff man like Kratos can't dip and weave

ever seen a heavyweight boxing match? ever heard of Ali or Mike Tyson? Those guys were huge and they could bob and weave to the point no one could touch them. Dodging comes up quite often in games. I like to play on tough difficulty and then it becomes a frequent necessity. If all I can do is one kind of dodge for the entire game it gets boring. Give me more control of the character, not just more story. Don't get me wrong. I can appreciate a good narrative but I buy games to play a game, not watch a story. The story is just the payoff. The real fun is solving the next part of the game to get to the next part of the story. That's gameplay. That's the important part. That's the part the devs should be most concerned with. It's what make games an interactive experience instead of a movie.
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>>341468882
more like if its shit it doesnt count

its funny how retards like you always use the same argument, when it literally is "I like this anime shit so its good"

I like some bad games too, doesnt make them good, grow up you stupid piece of shit
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>>341470839
Yeah i had those guys in my mind but i don't think boxing with monsters is the ideal strategy.
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>>341471105
>I am the arbiter of what constitutes good or bad video games
Literal faggot.
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>>341449872
it's one of sony's famous" cinematic experiences", you're not supposed to.
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>>341464378
But Ryse was fun, it just got a bit repetitive. God of War can probably fix that. (It also helps I paid 20 for Ryse)

However, I have reservations about the game. I mean, I think i need to start understanding that this is a Kratos story but a different game. I mean, I'm working on not expecting this to be God of War 1/2. Even though that's what I wanted.
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>>341471614
Compared to you, yes I am

having to use retarded non "arguments" like "d-durr u think ure some authority XD??" automatically exposes you as a stupid piece of shit who thinks that anything cant be objectively measured

probably a retarded nonconfrontational american who grew up thinking everyone is unique and everyone is a winner

pic related is you

inb4 another "argument" to give yourself the illusion of winning
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>>341472104
Video game quality can't. But either way you haven't provided anything substantive. Where's your argument?
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>>341472104
>Compared to you, yes I am
t. an actual faggot who thinks he can determine the objective value of a subjective medium
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>>341473037
What "substantive" should I have provided you stupid shit? And yes, the quality of a video game can be easily measured in objective terms

the reason 99.9% of your rehashed turn based anime shit are objectively bad games is because

>the animations range from terrible to mediocre
>the graphics range from terrible to mediocre
>the combat system does not have depth: its a glorified menu with nary a murmur of interactivity
>the writing ranges from laughable to good, usually on the bad side of the spectrum
>character design can easily be summarized as generic anime shit n.113213 with x color hair and eyes with big weapon
>voice acting ranges from nonexistent to high pitched anime shit
>music ranges from garbage to good, again usually on the bad side of the spectrum

inb4 b-b-but i-i l-like it...l-le g-gaijin...

bloodborne or ninja gaiden black are good japanese games
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>>341471278
I don't want to box with the monsters. I want more than one dodge. If there is only one form of dodging enemy attacks I won't be purchasing the game. Get it together devs
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>>341465772
I remember when everyone was saying the same thing about the E3 demo for TLOU back in 2012
https://youtu.be/8ZYkj0glnqs?t=190

it's "cinematic gameplay"
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>>341473432
So they're objectively bad because...they're objectively bad? What a story.

I don't even like JRPGs. Your argument is just totally empty.
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>>341467112
what is that available on? Can i play these on my pc or ps4?
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>>341449872
>>341450030
It's a dark souls-like now, haven't you fags realized that yet?
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>>341475036
I hope youre genuinely handicapped because otherwise youre just fucking sad

yes, thats exactly how it is- you can objectively measure the elements in the game and then see the total outcome of them all together

if you cannot understand why "bad graphics" or "mechanically and artistically shallow music" are objective faults, its no wonder you still think you havent utterly embarrassed yourself with your fucking stupid reply
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>>341475807
Is that Max Pin with the gay cowboy man?
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>>341475807
Tell me how you can objectively measure the quality of things like graphics or music or level design or what "artistically shallow" is "objectively."

You can do it, baby girl.
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Really, what are they going to do about combos? Clearly stringing your hits together is going to mean something, right? Combos have always been a central mechanic of the series. Maybe you will get faster and faster if you keep hitting enemies without getting hit yourself, like adrenaline or something?
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>>341476283
>Tell me how you can objectively measure the quality of things like graphics or music or level design or what "artistically shallow" is "objectively."
anything that detracts from the style or feel of the game. A game that is supposedly about exploration but with areas that are repedative, uncreative, or just plain boring would be bad level design. Having limited (having only a few songs that are played over and over), simple, and or out of place in regard to the games world would be bad music design because it makes the world feel confined and lackluster, the oposite of the intent of the game. I hate to break it to you but you can objectively measure the quality of art. There is a reason there are artists that are considered masters, if there was no objectivity there couldnt be people that are objectively better at it that others.
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I assumed this was more of a cinematic sequence.

Later you'll probably take control of the kid.
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>>341476283
Why would I put any more effort into a stupid fuck like you ?

Unless you want techbabble about why certain graphics are unimpressive/ straight up bad shit, you only need to apply the standards of time to it

music can range from laughably bad to very good, and your generic synth anime shit trying to emulate somewhat orchestral tracks would make anyone with any competence/ knowledge about music kill themselves

level design is probably the most self explanatory one in reviewing its quality, but some manchild who actually plays turn based anime shit obviously wouldnt know about it because they arent games to begin with

Now go ahead and reply with another empty, retarded non-argument, I wont be replying again
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>>341460801
>open world style levels
whoa.. what a fucking innovation
>in-depth RPG mechanics
like what?
>crafting system
Has science gone too far?
>exploration
452 types of useless collectibles and the part of the writing they didn't have time to put in the game pasted on some arbitrary "rune" or "artifact" collectible
>loot system
OMG I LOVE LEWT. IF I DON'T GET LEWT EVERY 0.25 SECONDS I'M REMINDED OF HOW EMPTY MY LIFE IS
>heavy combat focus
Sure love that button mash combat

Jesus, you cucks are the best
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>>341477439
>anything that detracts from the style or feel of the game
People disagree on things like that all the time. "Style" and "feel" are pretty nebulous and relative to someone's perception.
>Having limited (having only a few songs that are played over and over), simple, and or out of place in regard to the games world would be bad music design
What's "objectively" wrong with repetitive or simple music?
>makes the world feel confined and lacklustre
That isn't objective.

I don't think you actually understand the subjective/objective dichotomy. Consensus isn't objectivity.
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>>341478419
kek 10/10
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>they restrict the FOV and change the combat itself to keep the FPS up
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>>341477730
Tech babble has nothing to do with quality, it only has to do with the technical facts of how a game is rendered. Yoshi's Island is less technically demanding than any Call of Duty game, but many people would tell you it's a more interesting looking game.
>music can range from laughably bad to very good
Deep. That has nothing to do with whether it's objectively determined.

I don't even like anime games, baby girl. I just wanted to let you know you don't understand the word "objective."
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