Can someone explain the Twitch phenomenon? Why do people want to watch these talent-less people stream games? I can understand watching fightan tournaments, but why do people care about the everyday streamer?
>>338413240
some of them are talented, I've watched those super mario 64 speedrunners a few times its pretty impressive
some people like to get a look at gameplay of new games
some people are lonely and are drawn to a channel and streamer for a sense of community i guess
>>338413240
Like >>338414181 hinted at
Twitch streamers and Jewtube let's players are filling social voids in many lonely lives. It's especially sad when people pay real currency to get a single moment of their internet senpai's attention via donation shoutout
>>338413240
it's easier and cheaper than actually playing games yourself, though probably more time consuming.
For most braindeads, it's easy mode social interaction, a chance to be part of something popular with minimal effort. Streamers benefit in channel growth and money by faking a token level of friendship and niceness with viewers that chat/follow/subscribe, and people who are unfulfilled in their social lives(or marriages - check out streams where a physically attractive guy is streaming anything and being overtly friendly) eat this up. You can especially see this effect when people donate/subscribe to a channel and then get this warped idea that they now have some sort of higher standing in channel, but have a closer friendship to the streamer and deserve to have the voice heard/responded to. Mental illness.
Many popular variety streamers are without talent, skill, or even genuine passion for what they're playing as the flavor of the month. Maybe part of the allure is, people see themselves in the streamer and think they belong? They don't see high skill and therefore aren't somehow threatened, perhaps.
>>338413240
>watching Twitch for video games
Are you retarded or something? I watch Twitch streamers because I think they're entertaining. I don't even play video games lol
>>338413240
I watch Twitch for Bob Ross.
>>338413240
I don't think most people watch a stream like they watch a movie. Watching someone play a video game doesn't demand your full attention. Twitch is best used as background noise. Tune in to somebody playing a game you've never seen before and have that playing on your second monitor while you do whatever you're doing.
>>338413240
If it make you feel better i don't ever watch twitch besides pro tournaments and sometimes Broteam
>>338413240
I only watch Saltybet desu.
>>338416558
Who are some "entertaining" streamers?
>>338413240
Most of the time the person is funny or entertaining in some fashion.
Online games can also be made more interesting when there are a dozen stream snipers mic-spamming and trying to kill the streamer.
Kaceytron
>>338413240
lonely losers
>>338417151
meant for
>>338417074
>>338414612
>>338416432
I think you're overlooking the situation. People don't watch streams because of that reason at all, so what you're saying is complete nonsense. People watch streams because it's interesting and entertaining, and that's all.
>>338418616
Most people don't sub to Kaceytron just to look at a bit of cleavage though unlike LegendaryLabia
>>338418616
>mfw it took a literal flash of her vagina to get a slap on the wrist
>>338419194
sauce?
>>338420112
You barely see anything
http://oddshot.tv/shot/legendarylea-201604253335960
>>338413240
>look at the WoW section
>hear about this faggot called Mitch
>click his stream
>he's a dumb manchild who overuses words like "bro", "dawg" and "ya'll"
>he cries to some guy on Skype about his "girl problems"
>mentions this one girl
>check her stream because it's on
>some dumb blondie and as expected people mention this Mitch faggot
And then there are retards like Sodapoppin and his gold digging gf.
The worst thing about all this is that streamers like this are endorsed by Twitch because they bring in viewers.
It's probably much like how unfunny comedians can still manage to turn a buck in this day and age.
>>338418616
>gets a slap on the wrist and not permabanned for showing snatch and other stupid shit
>other low view streamers get permabanned for petty shit
i guess the higher ups get twitch more money
>>338413240
Watching video games is easier and cheaper. It also makes autists and manchildren feel like they have friends.
>>338420673
Obviously?
Like 90% of the rules don't apply to you if you get them viewers. Like the no vidya gaming content or no prerecorded shit
>>338420673
When i was trying to get into streaming, my stream somehow turned itself on without me knowing. I ended up streaming for around 24 hours before realizing and in that time i streamed about 10 episodes of game of thrones and 20 minutes of hardcore pornography. I only got banned for 24 hours for copyright content....no idea that shit works i guess my stream only ever attracted 15~ viewers at best.
>>338420521
Yea that's what I don't get, it's like a MySpace-lite. A cult of personality forms around people with seemingly nothing interesting about them. You can find videos with millions of views about "youtube drama" or "twitch drama", when it's really just average highschool BS blown up onto a giant stage. Who cares? What's the appeal?
>>338413240
Watching people who just stream without doing anything "special"? No. never really understood those.
Competitive and speedun games, I can see. I watch some from time to time. Streamers who go in to survival games and do ridiculous RP related shit can be entertaining. That's about it though.
>>338413240
The problem is not that people are willing to watch them, but rather that people are willing to PAY for free entertainment
>>338422976
this. its also fuckin sad that they call this a job
the entitlement of some of these streamers. some who i forgot the name, came out like that shit. always sayin to use their amazon link, using fuckin ads, tellin everyone to use greenman gaming, subscribe for "perks" (which is fucking sub mode or dumb fuckin emotes) and donate so they can get a message on the screen and 5 seconds of attention
>>338422976
But many of those people wouldn't bother streaming 5-7 times a week for several hours if they didn't make their living on it. So basically it's people directly funding something that they want to watch.
>>338423123
>its also fuckin sad that they call this a job
I've never understood retards who say this when referring to YT or Twitch people. It is a job. This isn't even debatable. It fits the definition of the word perfectly. The fact that you're butthurt doesn't change the definitions of words.
I only watch "special" streams: tournaments, speedrunds and such.
No way I'm ever going to watch normal playthroughs.
The game changes when you go from person streaming as a hobby to person trying to make a living streaming. You start out building a community around your channel, and then if that times comes where you make the leap into making it your job, extort them for all you can. That's just how it is.
>>338423512
>i sold my soul to act like a faggot for money
>>338423673
As if losing your integrity is required to be successful
Even if it was it would still be a job
>>338423312
There are guys who pretty much stream more-or-less daily even though they have a 'normal' job.
However, those who believe that they can make their living on streaming suffer from unwarranted self importance where they think that they should be allowed to just play vidya everyday and make a living off doing that, earning slightly less or more than what the average wage could be. And they set their "sub perks" and stuff so that they have some cringyworthy 'group name' and greeting like "Hoy, welcum 2 da Wolfpack! Sub hoyperino!". Then they also believe that whatever horseshit they may spout out of their ugly mug is cospel and ultimate truth that can't be denied by anyone.
>>338423865
You seem to hate one of the few entertaining people in twitch, who does more than "play" the games
>>338423865
>However, those who believe that they can make their living on streaming suffer from unwarranted self importance where they think that they should be allowed to just play vidya everyday and make a living off doing that, earning slightly less or more than what the average wage could be
1) They don't just believe it, many of them do it
2) Most of them didn't start streaming with the intention of making it their full-time job but it evolved that way when they got popular
3) Many of them earn hundreds of thousands per year, much more than the average wage
Now I agree that a lot of popular streamers are cancerous hacks, but you sound incredibly bitter.
vinesauce is ok
>>338420741
There is nothing with that. People watch streams because it's interesting and entertaining and nothing more. So you're opinions are retarded. And stop being a bully.
>>338423512
I guess some people think that playing video games for a living everyday is a crappy kind of job.
I wish I was a top streamer, people like Lirik, Forsen, Soda make at least hundreds per day only from donations alone, Forsen probably the most. He gets 3$ every few seconds a median annual wage in one month alone from the donations. He also makes 2.5$ for each subscriber, each month, and he has thousands of those as well. I was watching when he and other HS popular streamers sold shirts at the same time and he sold hundreds as well, I wonder how much he got from that..
It triggers me that some people have it so easy, you know, making more money in 2 days than I will make in one month starting,but they have been there for years, they took the train at the right moment and it pays off.
>>338413240
People are living vicariously through these streamers. It's a more relatable hobby than obsessing over celebrities. Even better you can give money to these people and essentially force them to respond to you in some way. And even more exciting than that is the fact that some of these streamers are women.
Twitch has transformed from something that showed off pro players, tournaments, and has become in some cases, a softcore cam site.
>>338426609
>2.5$
Do streamers only get 50% of subscriber money?
>>338426902
>a softcore cam site
They cracked down on the sexual content though. At most girls can show the kind of cleavage you get from a tank top but even things like having your bra showing is not allowed. And any sexual stuff like shaking tits or showing ass or feet are not allowed.
>>338413240
Fucking losers that like hearing other people's voices to feel like they have a friend. Most of the popular streamers are constantly talking non-stop.
>>338427458
That's what a friend told me a long time ago.
>>338427458
I think the biggest streamers get more leeway and can take more of a percentage, but that's the usual number.
i think twitch is great for gaming competition like fighting games and cs:go, but individual streamers with overlays collecting donations and stuff isnt for me
>>338421809
Most of their viewers are teenagers. It's obvious even with less shitty streamers like Lirik. Most of them act like they've just discovered /b/ and man, I wish I had a dollar every time some stupid Eurogay kid from Scandinavia started lecturing everyone about why his country is the best.
>>338417497
There is certainly a extreme to what he said but it isn't inaccurate. If people will watch just for the entertainment and interest, there would clearly not be any traction with making money off subscribing off Twitch streamers. But people do it.
>>338423673
no different than what sales people or any company with a """culture""" do
>>338429346
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Why would people who are watching to be entertained not also be prone to supporting the streamer with money?
>>338426609
>putting the dollar sign after the amount
This is really rustling my autism.
>>338413240
I like Chance, he's funny and unironically charismatic dude. Plus with """"games"""" like Uncharted 4/Firewatch/other shit it's much more enjoyable to watch him playthrough them than wasting my dollars and play alone.
>>338426609
I think 1g man makes around a mil a year.
>>338427458
Probably, but it's still a lot given the sheer volume of subscribers. Even without donations they rake in a fuckload of money for basically doing nothing they weren't doing already.
>>338427861
Stop judging people who have no friends. It's not fair.
Most 'career streamers' are dull as a cardboard box, but now and again you find less-popular eccentric ones who can be amusing with their commentary. I'd never give them any money, but I will leave their stream on in the background for the odd laugh and to break the silence while working.
the only reason to use twitch is for competitions
>>338429346
I guess you got a point. But you can choose not give the streamer money you know.
>>338429576
Is this real? Why did those guys not react at all to him yakking?
>jumped on Arma II mods when they were popular years ago
>built a viewer base of 400-500 trying out the different DayZ mods people brought out
>work forces me to stop streaming for a good while
>DayZ standalone releases
>any traction behind my stream completely destroyed as the field becomes saturated and viewers go elsewhere
Who knows where that could have gone.
>>338430162
nowhere without viewbots
>>338430337
I wonder how many of them use view bots. Just today I saw two streamers, both with ~450k followers but one had 12k viewers other had 1.5k viewers.
>>338429523
I wouldn't be, as a viewer, if I can just get entertainment for free. But if subscriptions weren't advertised and was just a button there by itself, most people wouldn't gift streamers, like most websites that have Paypal donation buttons that do more useful things like actually putting out free software applications that can do a variety of useful things on your computer for you like download your Youtube videos and converting them into audio or whatnot.
So clearly there are other factors in play. And there are, advertisements being the least of it. The streamers will usually try and make his or her subscriptions as much of an exclusive club as possible with benefits to get people to do it. Along with the social factors.
>>338430068
The choice is there. But since so many people do it to the point that Twitch has a viable business model off it and got brought by Amazon, there are clearly more than meets the eye to the whole thing.
I live with someone who is big time into streaming, so let me try to explain it.
People who stream are attention whores. Most of them stream to try and make it big, gets lots of money playing video games and live an easy life. It helps that they absolutely love themselves and love the attention it brings.
People who watch streams mostly fall into two categories.
The first is people who are just looking for people to play with. They'll go into streams of games they want to play and ask people if they want to play. They're not really there to watch, just to play (which is why a lot of streamers make it so if you want to play with them you have to be watching them). These people are almost always dudebros playing games like COD or FIFA.
The second group is people who either can't or don't play games. This is pretty self explanatory, but they watch games because they want to experience it but cannot do so first hand.
And that is basically how twitch works.
>>338427796
look up JennytheSquirrel, she's playing right at the edge, and you know most people in those kinds of streams are there for the sexual element even if it's subdued.
>>338413240
>streamer calls himself "content creator" when he's literally just an e-beggar
I can't wait for this fad to end and see most of this retards fail in real life because they wasted all their time in their pathetic streaming bubble.
>>338430646
>I wouldn't be, as a viewer, if I can just get entertainment for free.
But if we're talking about a streamer who puts in tens of hours of work a week into their streaming the only reason that's happening is because people are paying them enough to have the time and incentive to do it. So then it becomes a question of how much is the entertainment you're getting worth to you.
Of course there are other factors at play to incentivize people to subscribe but "I want this stream to keep going" is a big part of it.
>>338431105
this explains why i watch professional dota 2, actually.
fuck playing that game, moderately fun to watch at a professional level.
ITT: people jealous they can't be entertaining while playing vidya and get paid for it
>>338431172
>can't watch her VODs without subscribing
What a greedy cunt.
>>338431105
I think that's one of the more amusing things about it really. Everybody wants to make it big. People like Lirik already started with a strong base because he was a moderator in Towellie's chat. Nowadays you see so many people starting off with no audience or foundation, buying themselves these kitted out computers with a professional microphone, throwing bells and whistles up on their stream and more frustratingly a donation button down below. It doesn't work that way at all.
>>338431257
>>streamer calls himself "content creator"
This shit pisses me off so much. These assholes don't create anything - they just make noises in front of a camera while playing a game badly and people throw money at them. I can't even begin to understand the autism involved in actually subscribing to a stream, which gives you nothing more than either access to a chat that's best left minimized, or some faggy emotes to spam in said chat, or donating money to them.
I won't act like some of them aren't entertaining sometimes but god damn only a serious fucking retard would actually pay these people.
>>338431321
You obviously have to care to some extent to want to donate for that reason.
But just on a personal level, since you quoted my opinion, I have a ton of ways to burn my time, and if I had to pay for Twitch, I would just not watch and do something else.
>>338431321
I'm not that anon but I agree with him. While your reasoning is sound, I think there is a large portion of people on Twitch who try to gain recognition through shoutouts, donations, and subscriptions. It's like a free to play game; most people don't pay at all, the few who do pay make up a gross majority of the total number of people who do donate and subscribe. A big part of me feels like this is due to social circumstance, not necisarily charity.
>>338413240
Lack of IRL friends, 0 socials skills, access to parents credit card. The saddest part is a lot of people who donate and chat think they're "friends" with the streamer. Most streamers realize this and maximize their income by taking advantage of lonely retards.
>>338431638
Yeah, the guy I live with bought a bunch of shit just so he could stream. He acts like it's his fucking profession and he's making a living off of it.
He gets maybe 10 viewers tops, half or more are moderators he's basically pressuring into watching him.
>>338431683
What's autistic about it? I'm subscribed to a stream because I get 20 hours of entertainment out of it per week. And I enjoy the stream more than 90% of the TV shows I watch. 5 bucks a month is basically nothing anyway, it's the price of a big frozen pizza.
>>338431257
The majority of them fall back into obscurity after a few years. I fucking love seeing youtubers or other Shit-Tier "ecelebs" who thought they were hot shit and developed an elitist attitude towards the people around them only to fall. There was a league of legends boobie streamer who recently quit and she admitted in a youtube video how shitty she felt being a glorified hussy begging for tips with her tits out.
>>338431823
That's kinda sad. I can see wanting to build a PC for your own benefit but going out of your way to make a stream machine and then no one actually watching your stream is pathetic. It's like that episode of Ed Edd and Eddy where they kept getting into the fads too late.
>>338431683
PJSalt
you watch for the personality, the game they're playing is mostly irrelevant.
and then you watch esports shit, if your that way inclined because you want to see high tier play
>>338432343
His PC isn't even that good (it's my old PC). But he went and bought shit like a capture card, a new webcam, microphone, headphones and so on. I'd estimate he's spent at the least $800, excluding games he buys literally based on their "streamability". He's not even made 10% of that back in donations.
>>338413240
People like people OP. They just happen to play videogames while streaming themselves doing it. The only thing that's hard is building an audience since you have to be a little entertaining, since Twitch no longer allows cancer streams like they did in the very early days, mostly a runover from Justin.tv.
>>338413240
Ooops $200 dollars of mom's creddit card. when you see gamer girl streams these are who donate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgp3N1VmBdk
>>338413240
I watch some tournaments/pro players of online games I play to learn stuff.
I don't see why people watch some casual streamers though. There's way better gaming related content on youtube without people filling the screen with donations and whoring themselves out for subs.
>>338426609
If it makes you feel any better, I hear the taxes for this kind of "job" are brutal, at least in the USA.
>Some autistic children don't play videogames, they like to watch other people playing videogames instead
>Ecelebrities playing unreleased games
>tits streamers/twitch attention whores
>muh e-sports
>autistic AssFaggots/moba players
Basically that and tournaments
>>338433106
Is that a man?
I don't get it either but I kind of enjoy doing the streaming because I'm a narcissist
>>338433184
Might be Michael Jackson.
>>338433184
Don't you want some of that boipucci?
>>338413240
It literally replaced cable for me.
I work in the same building as the Twitch people. I can't believe such a small operation is becoming the Netflix of the generation.
>>338433560
No, that's gay.
>>338413240
why do people spam twitch chat? your message is never seen and it is just constant scrolling
The high viewer Hearthstone streams are the most cancerous thing I've ever seen
Pseudo-friendship
>>338433893
They're teenagers and use memes to feel like they're part of something. The more they spam their "inside" jokes the more they feel like they belong, even to the extent that they ruin the chat.
>>338434150
Sounds exactly like 4chan/Reddit/FunnyJunk
>>338432325
>The majority of them fall back into obscurity after a few years.
That reminds me of how all the YouTube guys I used to watch back in 2008 have pretty much disappeared, or have almost no viewers these days.
>>338413240
Speedruns are fun
In a nutshell, it's the online equivalent of going over to your m8's house and chilling out while he plays games.
>>338434453
The difference is that on 4chan, unless you're a tripfag, you're anonymous. Which means you understand to a certain extent that what you post doesn't matter and you're not doing it for an online persona. Non anonymous communities are usually worse because people try to act cool and they devolve into shitty cliques.
>>338430646
The I guess you're right, there are too many people who donate their money to the streamer that the people who don't doesn't matter anyway.
>>338434453
it IS 4chan/reddit/etc.
they have their own community and their own memes
i had to look up what kappa meant in Twitch context and im still not even sure about how it originated.
>>338434493
I think a few might have made it into actual film industry jobs, but so many others tried to cash out quick and fucking failed miserably. I love it. Giving people success and fame overnight is the easiest way to ruin them.
real friends are too much work. obligations and all that bullshit.
fake friends are much easier.
>>338434713
It predates Twitch. It's some faggot from Justin.tv who had his own emoticon. People thought it looked sarcastic/smug or whatever so they started using it like that.
>>338434737
I remember two guys I used to watch, Armake21 and Cloud8745, who were quite popular back in the day, but they destroyed themselves with Internet drama and making new YouTube channels over and over.
>>338432325
holy shit, she makes it sound like she was actually sucking dick or prostitute shit
>>338434713
>im still not even sure about how it originated.
The Kappa emote is one of the old JustinTV guys, but compressed into 50x50 his expression looks like he's holding back a snicker, so people used to to mark sarcasm or jokes
Like 99% of Twitch culture revolves around the emotes and the meanings ascribed to them are largely self-explanitory, like TriHard and PogChamp are excitement
WutFace is disgust/negative surprise
OneHand is Kappa but not spammed as often
Is anyone doing a Twitch raid?
>>338434930LOL
https://youtu.be/NkgNZ9CTPBc
https://youtu.be/1_PsUsriYiA
>TODAYS SHOCKING STORY- average women with no specific skill set uses cosmetics and lies to manipulate men into supporting her lifestyle! You wont believe the hardship she suffers throughout the process. . .
>>338434957
holy shit, if i ever get big (which i won't because i play shit like Blake Stone) i will ban all fucking emotes
fuck that shit, its fucking annoying
>Tfw thinking of getting into streaming/jewtube
I don't expect to get popular or earn a lot of dosh from it, it would just be a hobby. I've been told by a few randoms in games that I should stream because I have a nice voice. I definitely would never go into facecam shit though, just talking while playing
>>338435275
fuck facecam
the ONLY TIME its acceptable is for a horror game with jump scares because that will cause you to scream
>>338435275
A key is filling practically every moment with chatter. There shouldn't be many moments of silence unless you're absolutely wowing people with your skill in a multiplayer game.
>>338435257
You can just put the emote code into your chat's censor list
I know at least two channels that censor every Kappa variant
>>338435510
>People are still autistic when it comes to webcams
Who the fuck cares as long as it isn't taking up half the screen. If it's just a small area in the bottom corner, it can generally be completely disregarded if you aren't into it.
>>338435275
people who use facecam are the worse.
>>338435257
would watch your stream
>>338416978
Was going to post this
Saltybet is dumb fun
>>338435574
How much chatter should be going on in a story based game though? The game I'm thinking of streaming is super story based, there's almost always someone saying something important to the story. I thought I might as well stream my second playthrough ofQuantum Break. I need to go hard mode and see the other choices
>>338435982
It's called respect the cutscene AKA shut up during those moments.
>>338435982
Don't talk during cutscenes you faggot
>>338436287
>>>/b/
>>338413240
It's basically surrogate social interaction. It's nice to just feel that at any moment of your time, you're surronded by people that care at least a little bit about you. Just human nature, I suppose.
>>338436341
Not what I was exactly looking for ( I probably should have said that I do know what /b/ is)
>>338436341
Anyway, sorry for the dumb comment. ( I have been using 4chan for a couple days though)
>>338436183
>>338436245
Well obviously I'm not gonna talk during the cutscenes. I just meant that in the game while you're doing shit characters are usually talking to each other
>>338436596
Keep subtitles on but try not to talk over them anyway
>>338436640
Fair enough. I'm hoping the live action cut scenes are significantly different when you make the different choices. Too many games give choices that only alter the tiniest detail
>>338420882
>no prerecorded shit
That's a rule? How retarded is Twitch? I know for a fact a lot of shit is a rebroadcast like Capcom Pro Tour rebroadcasts, so that can't possibly be a rule.
>>338433048
It's most likely considered self-employment, so they pay an additional 12% self-employment tax over and above the 30-40% tax rate they'd be paying for salaries >$100k. Brutal
>>338413240
Well, in the most innocent approach possible, it's an easy way to see gameplay. You sometimes need to see gameplay before buying, right?
After that, even if you aren't particularly interested in the gameplay, it's still possible to use it as a screen for work. Whether this is the ase or not, redeeming factors and good reasons to watch someone are:
1) The streamer having a good voice, and being funny/interesting to listen to in matters unrelated to gameplay. This is actualy the deal breaker to most people.
2) The streamer being particularly skilled, and/or having something special to say about the game, perhaps due to having extensive knowledge of game design.
3) The stream chat being a part of a community, making watching it a social event (like fighting game tournaments).
There, that wasn't hard.
>>338431172
Probably at least 50% of the time, her stream is full-screen cam and a tiny gameplay window in the bottom right hand corner. Absolutely ridiculous channel. She's also been soliciting thousands in donations for her 'PTSD recovery', because obviously the best way to recover from PTSD is receiving money from strangers with sexual messages attached
>>338437104
>salaries >$100k
>on Twitch
You would have to be monstrously popular to be making those figures
>>338432325
Who is this boobie streamer you are talking about?
>>338437529
You can probably make that if you have a bit over 1k subs. Kaceytron has about ~900-950 subs and she implied she makes around 70k a year. And she doesn't even have text-to-speech donations or donations for video on her stream.
>>338437529
Right, I was responding in the context of the highest level post about Forsen, Soda, etc. At least for streamers like Forsen, when he's accidentally shown his donation admin page, he's making at least 30k/month alone in donations, not including subs, sponsorship, mechandise. Pic related, it's Forsen's dashboard from 17 Dec last year, so still half the month to go and already $18k.
>>338435475
interesting post
The only streamer I like is ZeroKyos. Everyone else is a try hard, this dude is just chill and does not give a single fuck. He's great.
>>338437858
raihnbowkidz
>>338438201
>Advertising your stream on 4chan of all places
But why?
>>338435234
She makes it seem like Twitch forced her to show off her tits. But, who knows, maybe they did...
>>338413240
Because they give a more reliable impression of how a game plays than Polygon
>>338431776
Is this really true? Because you are like the 5th person who has said the same thing in this thread already.
Most of them are kids with no friends and shit. Twitch streamers are glorified baby-sitters in most cases.
For me mainly esports. Doter is fun to watch.
>>338416558
> I watch Twitch streamers because I think they're entertaining
>>338438773
For some reason people think 4chan is full of retards who you can shill anything to. Everytime a new game comes out we get nonstop obvious marketers because of this.
Also it's easy to anonymously shill here, no account required, and because of this you can samefag a thread and no one can prove it
>>338439507
Yeah, what a shocker. I should have added a disclaimer that I don't think most Twitch streamers are entertaining. Most are trash. It's kind of like TV shows in that regard.
>>338434957
Emotes is short for "emotions" so how they're using it makes perfect sense.
I watch my friends' streams, some Street Fighter players like F3alucarD and LI Joe, speed runs, and fighting tournaments.
That's pretty much it. I don't watch standard gameplay if its not from a friend.
>>338439214
If you ask me it sounds like projection
Pretty sure it's just an entertainer/audience relationship, but the nature of the medium does lend a certain intimacy that can't be achieved otherwise
>>338416432
>by faking a token level of friendship and niceness with viewers
Look he's a total sellout and a shill, but Maxamillian is a genuinely nice guy.
>>338439508
We all know it's that Anonymous retard, fuck that guy.
>>338435475
lurk moar newfag
millenials that are too stupid to actually play games and want to act like they have 'friends'
>>338439508
>you can samefag a thread and no one can prove it
Once upon a time there was a way to verify samefags but I think everyone forgot how, myself included
The poster count on threads helps though
>>338413240
It's basically a paid friend service. First the you know who took the ability to make friends like a normal person from you, by doing various things that I can explain but don't matter right now, and then they repackaged it and resold it to you at a markup. You get the illusion of having friends while being brainwashed and marketed to, and your fake friend gets paid handsomely for the service of being an intermediary between the you know who and your mind.
>>338436287
>>338436573
>>338436486
See: >>338440203
>>338440241
>I'll just blame everything I don't like on the generation starting with the early '80s when I'm clearly intending to refer to children
>>338416978
I'm subbed to SB. I refuse to let it die.
>>338440367
i know the truth hurts, let it out
Twitch is for speedruns, tourneys and Saltybet
>>338440241
>i'm a miserable only child
you guys are always so salty as shit when seeing others enjoying things.
>>338438276
thanks.
>>338413240
>Can someone explain the Twitch phenomenon?
Beats me.
One thing I have noticed on Twitch tho: If person A says something and person B gets salty/offended, then twitch thinks it's always person A's fault for being offensive.
Never person B's fault for being too easily offended
Never "not a fault at all" because being offended/salty isn't a bad thing, it's step 1 of gitting gud.
Never just a thing that happens and, regardless of whose fault or not, just dropping the issue rather than escalating it
As a result, Twitch becomes a "ban what hurts my feelings" hugbox.
>>338426609
There's nothing really stopping you from doing it yourself. No guarantee you'll be successful, but it never was for the rest of them either.
>>338434693
same shit happens here want proof got to /pol/ and say somthing bad about the donald.
>>338440041
That could be true then...
>>338413240
I somewhat agree OP, the vast majority of it is utter shit, however, I like it when developers play their games over twitch as a sort of demo of the game, and I enjoy it when they twich stream some larger event I couldn't make it to so that even if I can't show up at let's say, Pax East, I can watch portions of it.
But other than that, the vast majority of Twitch is garbage.
the best streamers are the ones who invite the chat to play with them in multiplayer.
>>338440424
If it was it would be beyond dead.
I don't understand any of this Twitch thing, at all, not even kidding.
Becoming old is fucking scary.
>>338413240
I was under the assumption that Twitch was more or less a group/friend simulator where you get the opportunity to pal it up with semi famous people for only some spare change in your pocket. Also seeing those channels with the 18k+ viewers makes me wonder just how far this will go before it starts to equal mainstream cable and television in terms of viewership.
>>338440278
>your fake friend gets paid handsomely
You really think Twitch streamers get paid well?
Ad revenue is an absolute pittance, and subscriber revenue on Twitch is a flat $2.50 a month per subscriber
For most streamers, the lion's share of their revenue is in donations.
They are not being employed by "you know who," it isn't a conspiracy where they're living a high-class life.
Outside of the select few who hit it big, every single person doing Twitch or YouTube for a living are pretty much just scraping by.
>>338440996
Do they get taxed on this shit?
losers want to feel like they belong
giving money to strangers is one way to do it i guess
i just shitpost on 4chan, its cheaper and i get the same effect
>>338440991
That isn't what it is at all. It's free entertainment with some entertaining people you wouldn't realize existed without it. I watch Summit1G and LIRIK more than I've watched cable tv in my lifetime.
>>338440409
I'm saying you're using it wrong.
Unless you're a 40-something who's already bitter about everyone younger than yourself
>>338431257
I hate when streamers use that word.
Like them or not, people like JonTron, Dunkey, and TeamFourStar ARE content creators. They actually make shit with the footage they have, they don't just show unedited playing with commentary.
>>338441072
Only if they claim it.
I randomly send the IRS screenshots of large "donations" of streamers, their URL, and any information I can connect to their personality.
:^) I can't imagine how much fun they will have with the IRS.
>>338431321
>the only reason that's happening is because people are paying them enough to have the time and incentive to do it.
Not always. I ahve streamed almost every day for the past 6-7 years and have never earned a dime off it. I do it just because I like doing it, and I like talking with my friends while playing.
>>338441089
Did I strike a nerve or something here friend?
>>338441226
so edgy
>>338413240
Can someone explain the 4chan phenomenon? Why do people want to chat with these talent-less people about games? I can understand reading gaming news, but why do people care about the everyday gamer?
>>338441089
>dismissing good fiction storytelling on tv
Literally
>Im proud to be a pleb
the post
>>338441318
Funposting, it was always about the funposting.
I dont even get the popular streamers. They clearly have the most rotten personality "woe is me" attitude.
>>338441072
Yes.
And if it's their primary source of income, they get taxed extra for self-employment.
>Be female.
>Look halfway decent.
>Pretend to be SJW.
>Rake in views and donations.
>Never have to work again.
>>338441313
Its not edgy if the faggots don't claim their income on their taxes.
I'm not paying taxes on my measly 40k a year if some faggot streamer is evading taxes by pocketing 70k+ from various donation sources (paypal, indiegogo, patreon, etc).
>>338441367
You do know downloading shows and Hulu/Netflix exist now right? Probably 90% that watch the shows you talk about actually pay for cable.
>>338441226
>>338441445
I always wondered how that worked legally, I mean the whole "I work streaming videogames/making yt lets play" and receiving money from multiple sources, many times with "donation" as a concept.
How about when you're not even American?
>>338441445
>evading
It isn't evasion if it would never be taxed in the first place
>Was playing xbox with friends a week ago
>We end up joining his friends party
>There's a grill in there streaming
>Her two beta friends who are literally in the chat with us donate as soon as she sets a donation goal
>Between the two of them they donate $160
>Only other donation is one random guy giving a buck
>Guy who donated $50 later tries saying that the girl is actually really into him after she gets offline
Donaters are full blown cucks
>>338441441
>Be female.
>Look halfway decent.
>Still haven't managed to break it after 6 years of trying
>>338434493
I'm amazed that all the people that started the same time as TB (Jesse Cox, Crendor, etc) are still around. It's like starting your channel's content with WoW is some secret to never dying, no matter how much you change.
Even if Crendor basically uploads nothing but trying out experimental (read: competitively terrible but fun) Hearthstone decks and MAYBE Legion beta videos.
>>338441445
And how do you know that? They could be all green. So yes you are edgy and bitter you are the hero the IRS needs
>>338441610
It's complicated with overseas streamers but I think they do encounter American taxes because Twitch is an American company.
>>338441367
Name some good shows that are airing that aren't Silicon Valley.
>>338413240
roll call for autists. twitch is secretly supported by various psychiatric establishments around the world to analyze and contain autists.
It's nice background noise when you're playing a game. I've had some really good conversations about games I like and met some really cool people on Twitch.
Just like everything else though, avoid big streams. They're lowest common denominator meme spew cancer.
>>338441676
completely forgot about her. wonder why she stopped shilling herself here.
>>338441594
Oops I meant 90% of the people that watch the shows don't pay for cable. I'm drunk without drinking anything. Just look at everyone asking for HBO GO accounts whenever a new GoT airs.
>>338441441
>>Pretend to be SJW.
Where are you getting this from?
>>338431571
this
>>338441917
Heart attack probably or her dog finally died
>>338441676
Have you actually been trying to interact with the chat and put up a fake as fuck "bubbly" personality where you act cutesy and talk to the chat by username?
They eat that shit up
>tfw twitch has gotten so popular almost nobody outside of people with big established youtube channels posts gameplay to yotuube
>tfw as somebody interested in history and worries about history moving forward, this is bad because it means less and less videos of and about video games are going to get saved from random joes and the outlook we'll have on how games were received and how people played them will be skewed
>>338441676
Fat
Eskimo
>theres nothing on TV i like watching
>entertainment is subjective
>there are games id rather watch than play (ex: hearthstone, mobas, csgo)
>i dont own the game or the console for it and i know i probably wont
>wan't something to hear in the backround when im playing certain video games
>inb4 "neo-/v/" or "millenial"
>>338441610
>How about when you're not even American?
You can't really do it legally in most countries unless you incorporate and pay a shitload of things like your own medical/retirement insurance etc. 99% of people just do it illegally.
>>338416646
Same. The chat is dumb as rocks but it always makes me laugh.
>>338441990
I'm not her brah just letting you know.
>>338441274
that's probably because you're not a twitch partner.
>>338416432
>Streamers benefit by faking a token level of friendship and niceness with viewers that chat/follow/subscribe
Yep, knowing this really sucks.
I mean, why even bother when you've realized that nobody is genuine....
Saltybet going live and doing betting on the matches at evo is the best thing.
>>338442238
t. 8man
>>338442041
>wan't something to hear in the backround when im playing certain video games
I keep hearing this lame ass excuse over and over again.
What kind of games are you fags playing you need to hear "something in the background" as a requirement?
>>338442098
I didn't think you were, thought you were some other female nobody
>>338442219
No, I use Livestream because they won't ban me for streaming eroge. Or anything else for that matter. It's good for when you want to stream a movie and have you and your friends online watch it togehter.
>>338442383
It is a lame excuse. The only game I have anything else playing in the background is casual games of DoTA or something gay like that.
>>338442437
That's for sites that no one cares about as soon as Livestream becomes popular if it ever does that shit won't be allowed.
>>338442238
You dont once you notice it. I dont even watch streams too much now. Its fucking shallow and boring. The realization ruins all fun of watching.
>>338442525
Any by anything else, I mean music.
>>338442383
WoW.
What, you think I'm just going to listen to the game audio?
>>338442549
>as soon as Livestream becomes popular
It WAS popular like 5 years ago, then it completely fell into obscurity. I used to not get away with this shit there, now I can get away with anything.
>>338442525
Personally I listen to Doo Wop and Barber Shop when I'm gaming desu, shits relaxing as ferk.
>>338413240
I like to watch them play games I'm interested in potentially buying.
>>338442383
what do you mean an excuse? i like hearing the audio of streams
im kind of impressed by twitch really
because my gfx card was busted over the last few weeks i've been reduced to watching twitch streams of shit, and i couldnt play the overwatch beta but only watch on twitch
between watching the OW streams and watching streams of new games like Warhammer Total War i actually feel like shelling out for launch titles because of what i saw
no amount of advertising or hype or 'first looks' could have made me interested like watching it in action did, especially since ive been burned hard on launch titles before
>>338442383
Grinding games are great for watching random shit at once. You get the gaming satisfaction and viewing pleasure at once. I stopped watching streams tho
>>338442437
oh then sorry, i thought you were using twitch to stream.
>>338416646
>>338442089
Getting blazed as fuck and then reading the chat is hilarious.
>>338442994
inb4 dude....
>>338442982
I do when I stream off my ps4.
>>338443068
bro cannabis kek
>>338442383
>>338442525
When I hear things like
"There are games I'd rather watch than play like Hearthstone" it just blows my mind.
If you don't like it enough to play, you should have zero interest in it.
I think the -only- good things to come out of something like twitch are the following:
>Tournaments
>Special Events (Charity Marathons, launch day parties, etc)
>"live shows" like podcasts where you can ask questions during the broadcast
That's pretty much it. You know what these things have over your average stream?
Production values. They're more of a production. They're something where people put time and effort into setting it up, making it nice, having it be structured, rather than just "I guess I'm gonna play X today because I feel like it"
Watching man vs. game or whatever other cuck of the week literally lets play a game blindly is fucking retarded, same with watching -other- people grind hearthstone ladders.
"Educational" streams are bullshit. Educational videos are -always- better on a platform like youtube where you can make edits, highlight important segments, and refine your thought process because you have the hindsight to look back and adjust to make it better than just your unfiltered thoughts.
Twitch is a shit platform for the most part, outside of the few things i listed.
I like putting speedrun streams up on my second monitor while I do stuff. It's maximum comfy.
>>338417151
Kaceytron's cute smelly lewd feets!
>>338443142
You forgot comedy.
>>338443253
Laughing at people debasing themselves with stupid hair colours doesn't make the platform good.
>>338443142
>If you don't like it enough to play, you should have zero interest in it.
It's not that people don't like playing Hearthstone, it's that the game is genuinely frustrating to play because of its RNG nature.
Watching someone else get fucked over RNG on the other hand is hilarious.
If I'm watching a game why do I need to see someones ugly ass face? I'll never fucking understand webcams.
>>338434930
At the very least it was probably pretty morally conflicting, making piles of money but realising you're taking advantage of thousands of vulnerable lonely dudes
She obviously feels pretty fucking bad about it, same reason as Kaceytron 'retired'
Better she has some sense of right and wrong about the situation, unlike completely amoral streamers like JennyTheSquirrel who seem to enjoy having thousands of orbiters
Though the majority are talentless, some are quite talented. As to WHY, well, humans in general love watching other people do shit.
It's why we have cooking shows.
Sports.
Driving
Hell, we even watch people TALK (i.e. talk shoes)
If there's an interesting personality then yeah, a lot of people want to hear what they have to say.
It gives us new insights on how to look at things.
Then again, I feel like there are some famous people there just because they've been in the game for a long time. cohhcarnage comes to mind.
But if you find someone you like to watch that has similar interests to you, what's the problem with wanting to watch them?
-Love,
one of the few streamers from Japan
>>338443429
>I'll never fucking understand webcams.
this
It's so fucking unnecessary.
>>338443342
America's Funniest Home Videos lasted for years purely on that
>>338443361
Yeah, it's a shit game, so why are you interested in it?
Card games are inherently luck based. It's all about getting your draws when you need them.
Hearthstone adds an even more disgusting luck element with teh random effects. Whats worse is that the effects are also disgustingly powerful but "balanced" by luck, which results in a very unfun experience.
You shouldn't support these kinds of games, through playing, or watching.
>>338443515
At least he's a nice guy.
Though with a face like that dont you kinda have to be?
>>338413240
Nothing is wrong with Twitch itself, streaming video games existed before Twitch. In 2010-2011 there were a ton of /v/ streams on Livestream where we got together and watched some /v/irgin play Amnesia or run Mario Retardy or something, it was a lot of fun.
It's just the culture and sub-communities of Twitch that are cancer. Streaming died when facecams and donations got involved
>>338443142
>If you don't like it enough to play, you should have zero interest in it.
That's ridiculous, I can appreciate someones incredible skill in Starcraft 2 without having any interest in playing it whatsoever. I've played it enough to know I don't enjoy it, and that I can't tolerate the cesspool of humanity that still plays it nowadays, but watching an expert play it is like watching a master painter or sculpture artist work, it's inherently interesting and shouldn't need to be justified.
>>338442525
>>338442668
>>338442913
>>338442952
To be honest, if your attention is not 100% satiated by a game your best bet might be finding another game that would do so, or switch to some other activity altogether.
>>338443342
>implying I watch that faggot
Kaceytron is best comedy stream
>>338443601
>so why are you interested in it?
Because I put like 20 hours a week into playing it.
>>338443512
Japanese streams are always really chill for some reason, probably because I can't understand the person enough to dislike them, unlike American streamers
>>338443742
>Kaceytron is best comedy stream
I'm guessing that shes also based as well because she streams and collects donations ironically?
>>338443435
>same reason as Kaceytron 'retired'
What are you talking about? She never retired.
>>338443719
Fuck you, faggot. I'll play games how I like.
>>338443845
I guess I was under the impression she stepped away, I'm sure she took a break or something?
>>338443831
No she's based because she's funny.
>>338443719
This guy is retarded. Did you know people listen to music/podcasts as well while playing games? What a dumbfuck.
>>338443679
>donations
>facecam
I'm not totally against facecam if the person is utilizing it well, or is very emotive.
I am 100% against donations.
I was watching Distortion2 do a joke speedrun with Smoughs hammer yesterday and there was a donation train going which literally rendered the stream unwatchable. There were donation, subscriber, and follower notifications on the screen for almost the entire time I was watching. It's fucking horrendous for viewers.
I can't fathom people throwing money at twitch streamers. Guys who donate literally hundreds of dollars to these people.
100 bucks is a tank of gas and like a 2 weeks of groceries. Yet you just throw it at some guy cause he plays hearfstone
>>338443512
>-Love,
>one of the few streamers from Japan
I've only seen three up at one time and they all didn't speak a lick of English although they could have been Korean I don't really know because its difficult to tell them all about desu.
>>338443796
Most never show their face or ever really comment.
Also, they usually dual stream between NicoNico and Twitch (which a lot of people may have a problem with)
I have a couple JP streamer friends.
RetroGaijin seriously pisses me off, though. Faggot can't even speak Japanese yet he runs with the whole Japanese culture bullshit.
Total fucking cancer.
>>338443917
She took a week long vacation a few weeks back if that's what you mean.
>>338443954
>100 bucks is a tank of gas and like a 2 weeks of groceries
Where on earth is this kind of pricing attainable?
>>338441624
Twitch is not a recognized charitable organization, so "donations" are actually considered income. Twitch streamers are considered self-employed, which I think has the highest tax rate in the US. It has something to do with employers paying half of your Social Security and Medicare.... and self-employed people have to pay the employee and employer amount together.
>>338443968
It's cool desu. Look for the [ENG/日本語] in the title. that'll tell you they're a dual streamer.
>>338444082
set loose the sjw of war on him for cultural appropriation then if you want to see him burn.
>>338444271
A place where you clip coupons and don't eat 40 dollar take out meals daily faggot.
>>338444271
The deep south my boy. $50 of groceries can last me 2-3 weeks. Although the minimum wage down here is lower.
>>338444082
There's one guy who does Destiny broadcasts on 'Live on PS4' to usually ~1k viewers and although I can't understand him, he seems bro as hell
And RetroGaijin unpleasant enough to watch as a westerner, I can't imagine how cringey it must be for actual Japanese people to watch him. And he includes his girlfriend in various broadcasts as if to say 'see, she's giving me permission to do this act, you can't be mad at me for cultural appropriation'
Although it ain'tfunto me I can understand why people would watch someone who's really good at a game or very entertaining. Hell I can even see the appeal of grrrl gamers
What I don't get, however, why there is an audience for unfunny, talentless and ugly streamers.
What do people get out of watching these kind of players?
>>338443874
Sure, but why would you even play games that don't really attract you that much in the first place.
>>338443946
Of course it holds up for people listening to whatever as well.
Sorry you got triggered like this man, but it's the truth.
>>338444398
>clip coupons
only poor fags do this you know
>>338444093
Righto, I guess her stream schedule has changed over time or something, because she's never streaming when I'm browsing the site
>>338442383
You're gonna tell me you've never listened to a podcast while playing something grindy or boring at parts. I sat through 90% of npr's programming while playing euro truck simulator. It was great.
>>338444486
Beyond stupidity
>>338443954
Yeah, I don't get why people would give a $100 or more to some guy you don't even know whose just playing a video game on a live stream. I guess they do it because they like the streamer's personality or some shit, but that's like giving giving $100 to a popular kid in your school just because he's popular. Also, streamers get paid by ad revenue and by Twitch partnership anyway.
>>338444373
I'd LOVE to see that happen holy FUCK. Guy is such a fucking useless tool.
Get this. Faggot streams Xenoblade Chronicles X in Japanese because it came out there first. He can't read shit so he forced his gf at the time to translate while he streamed. She got pissed and stormed off, and so with no support he shut the game off claiming "I just don't like the game."
Nothing would please me more than to see that fucking poser get kicked off twitch.
What is the point of shilling for twitch subscriptions when the streamer would make more shilling their patreon?
>>338444535
The amount of money I save goes directly to my bank account.
I'd probably still clip coupons if I was making a million dollars a year. This whole
>lol only poor people do this
Is fucking hilarious thinking, why wouldn't you want to save money?
>>338444486
Because some people like to multi-task.
entertainment
>>338444719
That's fucking embarrassing.
See the whole reason I would learn japanese would be to play games that never got released here, which is entirely text.
>>338444486
I can still put all my effort in a roguelike or an ARPG or puzzle games or a lot of shit while I have a stream or podcast going. It's not hard.
>>338444750
It also implys that you are that fat fuck with the coupon book who holds up the fucking line at best buy while he searches for his bogof coupon.
>>338444750
People probably associate coupons with poor people and don't want to feel like they are associated with them.
Like that real hagrid old woman at the front of the line at the register who takes up everyone's fucking time getting her coupons scanned, giving the cashier her life story, taking up even more time because she needs everything packed in the bags a certain way because she rides the bus
>>338444476
Thank god I'm not the only one who's noticed. Faggot has 50k followers over 1k subscribers.
People just flock to him.
>>338417151
Her Choice Awards are a masterpiece. In fact, it beautifully lays out why people waste their ``precious" time on twitch.tv -- the closest thing we have to an accurate twitch documentary. It is essential viewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OrZ34YGEoY
>>338443954
There is literally zero point to facecamming, it's just attention whoring. Grown adults communicate verbally, without SO WACKY Pewdiepie/Markiplier funny faces.
>>338445113
Weebs gonna weeb I guess. Feels only a few steps better than blackface though
>>338444969
Same man. Manga animu and games.
Being able to enjoy it before anyone else feels so good :D
>>338445158
>hurr grown adults don't communicate visually
No face cam is shit.
>>338445158
LIRIK is a god at this and completely owns twitch without a face cam.
>>338413240
>Why do people want to watch these talent-less people stream games?
Surrogate friends for nerds with poor social skills
>>338445221
Are you implying that westerners cannot play jap games? or am i just missunderstanding you
>>338445221
HAHAAHA holy shit. Tell me about it.
I really should contact someone about it. Send in the SJWs. Make up some shit how I'm so deeply offended!
Granted, if he actually spoke the language then, I'd be totally OK with it.
>>338444725
Brownie points with twitch corporate. I remember Destiny had to do it after they b& him for whatever reason.
>>338445297
What are you talking about? He did not say that at all.
>>338431571
pretty much
There is literally nothing wrong with facecam.
Don't watch 'randomb xd' streamers
>>338445472
If they don't have context driven storylines and gameplay then maybe? I don't think that was what he/she was implying though.
>>338444642
>while playing something grindy or boring at parts
If I find something boring or "grindy" to the point it becomes unbearable I just quit and move onto greener pastures.
Why would you endure something you're not enjoying? unless you have some sort of obligation, that is.
>>338444646
Are you able to from arguments or are you just going to keep it like this.
>>338444816
>>338445016
Well I think I can see your point if you enjoy games that won't ever manage to hold your entire attention, I usually get bored with those.
>>338445297
Streamers put up a facecam to emulate a feeling of closeness that lonely viewers crave, despite the fact that they're not communicating with you at all
You're like a small dog whose owner has been gone for an hour, you go flippant when you see your favorite streamer's face because you're so reliant on them
You nuthugging stream monsters are the laughing stock of online video streaming
>LIST OF THE GODLY STREAMERS.
Imaqtpie
POWER GAP
The rest
>>338445718
It's a show, dumbass. Go back to your freshman psych class.
>>338445472
You're misunderstanding me, he dresses up in this ridiculous stereotype of Japanese clothing which is so over-the-top it's basically offensive and then uses his actually japanese girlfriend to kind of smooth over any cultural insensitivity
>>338445701
Ah i see fucking booze has sofned my resoning tonight.
>>338445703
>Well I think I can see your point if you enjoy games that won't ever manage to hold your entire attention, I usually get bored with those.
MMOs, which is what I primarily play, generally don't have audio worth listening to.
>>338445136
>338445136
Im almost 10 minutes into this garbage.
Is it just this cringe inducing garbage for 2 hours? If so I've got the fucking jist.
>>338445872
>offensive
>cultural insensitivity
I'm sure the Japs don't need a filthy baka gaijin like you to defend them
>>338445703
It's evidently not "unbearable" since I kept playing. I enjoy the experience as a whole, even if certain segments can be boring. Sure once you hit the autobahn in euro truck you're pretty much just selecting cruise control and waiting, but once you get off you have a bunch of fun avoiding shit and seeing how fast you can dagumi your way through a mountain pass while carrying a full load of forklifts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVdAAnb01X8
this fucking weirdo
>>338445718
You sure are over-analyzing how people think and feel when they watch streams... Are you sure you're not autistic?
>>338445972
Either you get it or you don't.
>>338445813
rationalize the separation anxiety any way you want but you know you're psychologically dependent on seeing your Twitch sugar daddy's face because he's the only one who you can make eye contact with
>>338445972
The ceremony doesn't even start until 28:30 minutes in
>>338440257
i have the tricks and traps
>>338445872
Holy fuck i did not know. I am as weeb as they come but i would never debase myself like that.
>>338446063
I disagre we need to save them from this twat
I only watch tournaments.
If you follow personalities you are probably autistic.
>>338445872
Totally gets it.
(Just between you guys and me. I happen to know a couple dudes who work at twitch. We're waiting for that faggot to fuck up ONCE. Once he does, ban hammer with extreme prejudice.)
>>338445695
Facecam adds literally nothing to the stream besides le wacky reactions, and camwhores
>>338446063
I'm not defending anyone, I'm sure japs aren't even aware of it or watch it, I'm just intensely embarrassed for the dude. Pic related, this is meant to be a joke, not a lifestyle to deadpan unironically emulate
>>338445872
Wapanese to the extreme.
>>338446372
>I happen to know a couple dudes who work at twitch
no you don't
>>338446119
Is that pizza any good?
>Be Lea
>Suck Sodapoppin's D
>Get away with stupid shit
>>338446063
The Japanese are proud of the culture. So when they see dudes like Retro, they feel happy that someone is 'celebrating' their culture. A lot think "Wow, he sure does love Japan"
Pretty sure they can't tell that he doesn't. And if he DID, he would learn the language properly.
>>338446212
And how do you know about this so much?
man i wish i had a way to watch twitch on firefox. i only need it to watch smite's patch notes every 2 or 3 weeks
>>338446449
Alright dude. The Japanese twitch community is really tight knit. It just recently started getting the ball rolling. But yeah, I can't talk about it further than this.
>>338441695
Jesse and crendor are entertaining to watch.
>>338446737
Are you still on Firefox 3?
>>338446790
Crendor isn't so much entertaining as it is that the dude is just so chill and content with his lot in life that listening to him be fascinated by shit as simple as Ikea is just relaxing. Also he's a good sleep aid.
The wierd thing is he apparently deals with anxiety a lot, which doesn't come across well.
>>338446834
Latest nightly build
>>338446480
i dont live there but it looks like cardboard to me
>>338446526
We're waiting for the smallest offense.
Really, the Japanese twitch streamers just want authentic Japanese speakers to stream. Not half-wit posers who are wapanese to make a profit.
Luckily, he's also considering going back home. Wonder what his shtick will be then!
>>338446652
I've spent my entire life fucked up and it takes one to know one
rtc?4Headti6?4Head
>>338446374
It puts a face to a voice, and 95% of streamers don't abuse it as /v/ has led you to think
Watching Super Mario is relaxing af. I should buy a WiiU.
>>338447060
Yeah, I had a feeling you were one of those people you were describing.
>>338445872
>it's basically offensive
the japs fucking love nationalism m8
>>338446965
yeah. He is like a sleep tonic and has a nice voice.
>>338447849
I'm not sure they're quite so enthusiastic about white dudes being nationalistic on their behalf
>>338446236
I skipped ahead.
I don't give a shit if it's "ironic" it's fucking gay and stupid.
>>338447957
Thank you for your insight.
>>338448231
This is going to blow your mind, but you don't have to watch content you don't enjoy. You don't have to give the time of day to any streamer or youtuber that you dislike.
>>338447950
idk, I wouldn't mind Japs ironically wearing Nascar hats and playing pretend with rifles.
>>338447303
>secret
>ever winning anything ever again
Watching DC win a tourney before secret is going to be fucking hilarious
>>338447950
>enthusiastic about white dudes being nationalistic on their behalf
they absolutely are for the most part
skim this to get a better grasp about how much they enjoy seeing other peoples in their garb/enjoying their culture
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2015/07/18/books/underneath-orientalist-kimono/
>Okazaki is also concerned that the industry will suffer if Americans are scared to wear kimono lest they are accused of being racist.
>>338448342
I know that. And I wasn't implying you should do that either, if that's what you're implying.
The only Twitch streams I watch are /tehcram just because they hate video games as much as I do.
>>338443796
shit yeah, i can still remember when i found a stream of two qt jap sisters playing GTA 5 when it was new. shit was cash watching them fuck up over and over and on the first heist.
>>338443796
The only japanese guy I saw streaming was this Japanese Chef when Dark Souls got released and whenever he saw the rats he would go "HoHo! Mickey!"
I never saw him online ever again.
>>338448565
The PC gestapo: 1
Kimono industry: 0
>>338448937
Man that's too bad. Guy sounds hilarious.
I've seen some funny JP streamers before, but most never stream regularly.
>>338448565
>>338449478
I think what PC people seem to forget is that to the Japanese, wearing Japanese clothes shows you like their culture, and they like that.
>>338448565
It's hard to say. I love when people experience Japanese culture. You know, writing kanji, wearing kimonos, writing haikus and what not. That shit is cool and should be encouraged.
The problem comes when someone attempts to make a living by taking said culture and bastardizes it for profit. It becomes a hollow husk of what it originally was and spits in the face of history.
Take the same actions and apply it to any other culture and you can see how pissed people will get.
However, many wouldn't argue if said person was living and participating in said culture, not leeching off it.
>>338431683
I watch a youtube streamer for the first time, it was Markiplier playing Five Nights At Freddies. At first it was boring and obviously just a guy making a bunch of silly faces and noises and silly voices. But then I realized, it must take some serious effort to make -nothing happening- be entertaining. LIke for five minutes, just sitting there trying to act interesting and make people laugh.
Its the adult equivalent of jangling keys in front of a baby to make them laugh, but fuck if Id be able to keep that up long enough to make a video that people will watch
Watching a premade video of someone playing games is sorta dum
But watching a twitch stream, especially if the streamer is interacting with the audience, is sorta like those times where you invite a friend over and watch each other play games.
>>338450672
Cat cum.
>>338450230
I agree with you but i have to say can, can you lot take back the english language from blacks because ebonics is offencive to my culture.
>>338413240
When I worked night shift security guard I had a shitty company laptop that could not run vidya
I just opened up a stream and watched some guys fuck around and grief in dota and bullshit in chat
>>338450652
But a premade video can cut all the bullshit. If theres 20 minutes of no talking for whatever reason, you can just cut it out. Something like Game Grumps is a prime example, I'm sure they cut like 90% of what they get, because it's just unfunny, or cringe inducing, or whatever else.
I agree, there is an inherent difference between watching something pre-recorded and watching something live. But pre-recorded can definitely be more interesting.
>>338413240
i do it for the same reason i did it back in 2009.
doesn't matter what you're playing so long as it's fun, and having a group of bro's on the internet getting hype about dumb shit in your comfy chat is as good as hanging out with real people.
hell i even got a girlfriend this way. broke up with her sure, but still. it's a fun way to meet people and make friends who have absolutely nothing to do with their free time.
>>338451375
Comparing apples to oranges my friend.
This thread is too long to read, but I also like watching people stream art-making, specifically pixel-art, and there was a nice devstream going in /agdg/, very interesting to see someone else's workflow.
>>338451595
oh so rule for one not for the other then? way to be consistant.
>>338444535
right, its poor people who save money
>>338441441
>>338441627
>>338441676
I'm interested in seeing this, who are some female streamers that obviously milk thirsty dudes like this?
>>338452243
KittyPlays
LegendaryLea
JennytheSquirrel (she is the most reprehensible)
>>338413240
I wouldn't say that it's like an every day streamer thing.
A few friends of mines are big, and have me sub in their place for them on their channel. If you aren't already a big youtuber creating videos or even finding a specific niche that you fill well and people recognize you for then it's over.
For a lot of people who watch, are usually children or kids in high school who need to seek entertainment in another form that doesn't require them to play. Other types also include those who seek to watch players who are presumably better then them, pros or people who make money through CSGO gambling or other gimmicks that people can emulate if they watch long enough.
It's a long fucking road of bullshit and it's all built on false hopes and fake personalities. Obviously those who get far are of the portion of their mentality where there's a clear line drawn between being themselves on and off stream. For the every day streamer however it's obviously a one in a million chance you get discovered.
Even for my own twitch channel. I only get viewers because I happen to be friends with other popular streamers, aside from my old attempts to hang in other threads on /v/ and /vg/. Best I netted was 150 viewers over a week during giveaways, but I shortly realized how fucked this was and basically just focused on streaming when I felt like it as opposed to wanting to make it a job.
It's too much work to make more money out of because you can't always be promised the hundreds of dollars you see other people succeed in doing. Othewise, viewbot and network. I've gotten messages from other streamers who keep asking me to pass on the word to other twitch admins or my friends to "PUT A GOOD WORD IN FOR ME BUDDY" so they can get their partnership.
>tfw stream bad company 2 and modernwarfare 2
>get a couple viewers on a good day
>my follow alert its a hitmarker
>still barely getting views
how get more views
>>338452521
You say reprehensible, but I applaud these ladies if they're getting dudes to just give them money. Mad respect actually, and also pretty funny
>>338452521
Yeah but Jenny is a literally who?
>>338452779
There's something a bit grotesque about how utterly unconcerned they are about exploiting thousands of people, live on stream, especially JennyTheSquirrel. Hell of an achievement to be as successful at it as they are, but still pretty unsettling
>>338452779
I wouldn't say KittyPlays or LegendaryLea are reprehensible really, I just said JennytheSquirrel is reprehensible because she used some bullshit sob story about her "PTSD" to elicit sympathy donations. That's where she crosses into the immoral territory for me.
>>338452760
>>my follow alert its a hitmarker
Great idea actually
>>338452760
You need some dank memes
>>338452567
Imagine that sodapoppin just started streaming and no one on the planet knows who he is. Would he become popular again or there's too much of competition nowadays?
>>338453010
>>338453052
Yeah I'm still fine with it, and it's still funny as hell. I wonder what they pull in a month, probably at least a thousand.
>>338452760
You are lucky to get any views at all with those games.
>>338453052
The PTSD thing is absolutely fucked, she's pulling thousands off an unverifiable sexual assault attempt. I'm shocked Twitch hasn't banned her for that shit
>>338453239
Way, way more than that. I would guess KittyPlays makes 150-200k a year.
>>338453404
yea probably i just cant justify spending $500 a year on vidya just for streaming if im not gonna get views
>>338453213
He'd still be popular, he'd just have to stream for a long time before he would start to pull respectable viewers
>>338453532
Nice, I thought so. Thanks for the answer.
>>338453523
You'll get views, you just have to play recent games and not shit from 2009
>tfw got banned from summits chat today
someone in his H1Z1 lobby dropped the N-bomb and i typed Trihard ?
i dont get why 50 people got banned for typing trihard
>>338441676
I want to cummm on those eyebrows.
>>338453609
You can't really compete with anyone if you play popular games.
The only twitch related thing I do is listen to Previously Recorded while I work.
Idle chit-chat about movies and video games is good background noise.
>>338453239
A lot, but they're outlier cases. Most booby streamers won't make it. Though I would be hesitant to call Lea a 'booby' streamer.
>>338453213
Yes, and no. The problem is that he'd have to get exposure actually. As much as he'd be streaming, if he doesn't pull relative content that doesn't get noticed or viraled. It's easy to stay a low-level streamer. He would in theory become popular to a degree, but not to the same metrics he's currently at. Or at any point.
>>338453532
>Respectable
>Twitch
pick one
>>338453703
this
whos gonna scroll down to find your channel
when a new game comes out everyone is gonna go to lirik or sodas channels
>>338453213
Far too much competition.
Basically any kind of new platform has these kind of tiers of people.
>the "gods", people with insane viewer bases (pewdiepie, markiplier, etc)
>people who have been streaming long enough to develop a relatively large fanbase without being a god just from sheer amount of time and volume (boogie, cinemassacre, etc)
>New guys breaking in guys who are in the 10k-100k sub range, these are the guys who are just starting to get noticed and popular (I don't really know anyone off the top of my head)
>Everyone else trying to make it
Maybe you get a breakout video (I had 2 that got to 30k+ views) but I only have 400 subs on my channel, although I don't upload regularly.
So it's the same with twitch.
One of the fundamental problems I have, is you have the guys on the top saying the guys on the bottom are doing things wrong when they are completely out of touch with what being on the bottom is like you know? Lirik had some huge twitter rant about guys without sub buttons accepting donations on their stream, and I'm sure Pewdiepie and Markiplier would have opinions on the smaller youtube channels that are just flat out fucking wrong.
The only things that are going to help people grow are:
>luck
In that you get viewers, get pushed up in search results, etc.
>time
More time around gives you more potential to develop a fanbase because obviously rome wasn't built in a day
>quality and consistency of content
You don't just have to get your viewers, you need to keep them, and by putting out garbage content you alienate people.
>>338453621
Many streamers get very butthurt about racial stuff because they don't want to be perceived as racist in any capacity as that is against Twitch rules.
>>338453703
You shouldn't expect to be competitive with big streamers until you build a following, you're way better off playing recent games where you'll probably get leftovers from the big streamers (especially when they're offline), instead of old games, where you're guaranteed to never get big streamers leftover viewers or really anyone
>>338453506
That is fucking funny. That's like over 12k a month
Who are these guys? I bet some of them are here, ITT, RIGHT NOW
>>338453845
>tfw watching ICE_POSIEDON stream
>>338453831
And hustle, bruh.
if you havnt made it on twitch already then you will never ever got to the level of lirik or soda
>>338453784
Oh man, you sure showed me. I'm sure Sodapoppin is dabbing his teary eyes with his $500k salary
do the arm thing
I only watch like 4 streamers. I find a lot of streamers either annoying, or meme spouting.
I'm surprised that one of the more popular streamers I watch,Lirik. Has still remained calm throughout the years.
>>338431571
twitch entertianment = make loud noises or be a woman
>>338453858
There's a really big difference between old games and forgotten/shit games. I bet anyone can pull off easy 10 viewers on a fresh channel by playing something like first Walking Dead episodes.
I've watched some northernlion and baertaffy streams. I don't even subscribe or anything, more if I just want background I'll put it on, it's a bit like the appeal of sportsI'm guessing
They don't try too hard to be goofy and over-the-top, I started watching a stream with someone acting like that and immediately stopped.
>watch stream
>streamer says pogchamp
>chat spams pogchamp
>rinse and repeat with different emotes for 10 hours
>>338453845
Racist is the new HERETIC!!BURN HIM BURN THE FUCKING RACIST BURN HIM NOW AND HIS FAMILY!! MURDER HIS CHILDREN HE'S A RACIST!!
so yea
>>338453831
Nah, twitch is way less flooded than youtube. On YT you're really need to come up with something NEW, you can't compete even if your video quality is over the top.
Twitch on the other hand... too many of a shit streamers that "duh i only doin it fo fun who cares if i use $5 mic..."
And not everyone are willing to watch Lirik's endless dayz pvp.
>type trihard in chat
>you are automatically racist against blacks
>type minglee in chat
>you are automatically racist agains asians
>>338454490
Pogchamp is so passe.
>>338453845
You clearly don't watch fgc streams
Some people are selling drugs for $200k a months, I don't hear people envy them.
inb4 but thats dangerous while streamers are basically doing nothing reee
Try to make an entertaining channel yourself and we'll talk.
>>338454818
That's why I said many. None of the ones I watch get butthurt.
If you watch the chat/donation messages you'll soon realize that most of them are kids/teenagers or just stupid cunts like that Norwegian bitch who drank bleach for Soddapoppin.
twitch viewers are weird people, i mean why would you watch some random guy play video games FOR HOURS when you could do something else...anything
>>338454006
But you can be at their place in 5 year when they free it up to become a planetary worldstars with 500.000 viewers daily.
>>338455063
alot of people have nothing else to do
no friends
no reason to go outside
they feel like they are part of a community and people are their freinds online
>>338454657
I think you're wrong.
The on demand nature of youtube makes it easier to grow consistently. Twitch is incredibly volatile. I've seen streamers go from 2000 viewers consistently to fucking 15.
The biggest problem with streaming is that it has a very... circle jerky mentality.
The big streamers top the list, and people see them first. So in games like Hearthstone where people don't give a shit about the guy and just click the popular streamers it's hard to break out. Likewise, if you're playing I dunno, fucking Legend of Dragoon, good fuck luck getting a viewer base unless you already have a consistent following.
I think it's easier grow on youtube, but twitch is probably more lucrative over all.
>lirik or summit have a kid
>kid asks them what their job was
>ughh i played video games
>>338455063
Hey man, I get chronic niggeritis.
why is there no explore button on twitch or a button that takes you to a random channel?
how the fuck are small channels supposed to get noticed?
>>338453858
but old games are fun
i mean, i don't get much streaming spear of destiny on death incarnate, but its a fun and good game
unlike (insert new game that will be forgotten in 1 month)
>try to watch the NASA thing on twitch
>CPU immediately starts heating up, more than running any game does
This didn't used to happen back when i last visited twitch, what the fuck is going on?
>>338454679
That's why you spam ANELE.
>>338455260
>lirik and summit have a kid
There we go.
>>338455260
>for a million $$
oh the shame!!the horror
Twitch chat really blows my mind at times. I was watching LobosJr stream for the first time in years. Unfortunely he has a chat overlay in his stream.
From time to time I would look at and see how desperately people are trying to get attention. Repeating things they said like "hey lobos and chat" hoping he'll read it. Donating money so twitch notifications will read a question to lobos so he'll personally answer. A question the chat could easily answer.
The worst is people making the same fucking joke over and over again. Spamming things like kappa and any subscriber specific emotes.
I really thought people were joking about these people thinking that youtubers and streamers are their personal friend.
>summit always says "my negev"
>type trihard in his chat
>mods ban me
>filthy whores showing off their tits can stream freely
>a qt 11 year old can't and gets banned
Fuck Twitch
Speedrunners are fun.
And smaller streamers where the chat isn't fucking awful.It makes me feel like I have friends
Remember when you were a kid and you wished there was a video game channel on TV?And how G4 was shit.
Twitch is basically that video game "channel" for kids who want the same shit, and people who still want it.
>>338455505
A lot of lonely people in the world. It would be nice if there were some communication medium which could allow them to meet eachother and become friends. Something like an inter-network.but really, a "dating" site but just for making friends, if it somehow didn't make the users feel pathetic for using it, could be a huge hit I think
>>338455343
/directory/all/random
>>338454916
Yes but drug dealing is illegal and you might get shot by angry gangsters if your pedalling such quantities.
>>338455351
Flash is still shit, don't know what changed for you.
>>338455684
lol woman
>>338455343
>click game
>scroll down past the popular streams
I honestly wonder what will happen to Twitch streamers like Soda, Forsen, etc, in the next decade when Twitch becomes oversaturated, viewers have moved on and matured, and they have gained no real world skills for any job on the market
Hmmm
>>338455505
Chat overlay shit is annoying, and I use theatre mode anyway.
>>338455925
There's sites like meetup, but that's really for specific interest. I've used it before to play some 40k tabletop and MTG, but I really only go because my friends don't want to invest in those games.
>>338456108
Soda and Forsen make so much money that if they saved it wisely they could retire when their Twitch popularity dwindles.
>>338456108
the same that will happen to us
>>338454162
>just a list of things enforceable whenever someone feels like it
Eh. That's probably true for a majority of TOSes.
A lot of TOSes are only enforced if someone makes a stink about it or if it's v&-tier illegal.
>>338456108
Even if the mememaster on twitch grow out of it, the people who are born today will be the new twitch audience
>>338456108
It's not like human race stopped making childs. Besides, twitch is the king of streaming, saying that it's gonna die is same as saying that windows will die and people will stop using pc.
>>338456108
I'm sure some of them know it'll happen sooner or later and save money. Kripp is portly the biggest jew of them all
>>338455902
twitch is NOTHING like what we wanted
ever
it would be tons of shit like video power and gamepro tv. when i was a kid i would have KILLED for og tech tv/g4.
fuck, now i want to watch cinematech and icons
>>338456108
Retire. Wow.
One thing I just felt like saying about speedrunners
I notice they shit on games they're speedrunning a lot, and that seems really stupid to me
>hurr hurr if you flick the controller to the left 30 times in 10 seconds then jump there, then there, you skip this whole level
>wow dude shit game lol
>yeah it's so broken
Generally most speedrunners seem awful, which is a little sad because I could get into it maybe if they weren't so gross
>>338455684
Literally so retarded she thinks people won't notice her pulling the shirt down.
>>338456586
If you want a great speed runner check out Narcissa's channel. She does a lot of great runs when she's not playing Mario Maker
>>338446372
you guys sound like some petty fags, so i totally believe it since thats every impression ive gotten from twitch employees
>>338456687
>she
>>338456586
I used to speedrun Metal Gear Rising (a terrible speedgame, but I loved it). One of the 'top' runners for it is this nasal infection having Britbong shitlord who does nothing but bitch nonstop about the game, and every game he plays. He devotes his time to playing games he apparently hates, all while bitching about them and shitting on them.
>>338456108
Don't worry anon.
Robots will probably be taking all the jobs in a few decades anyway, and we'll all have to resort to twitch streaming to get money from our robot and richfag masters.
>>338456157
I'm really waiting for "channels" for and layers for video.
So I can turn off shit like the horrible background music some streamers run, or their voice chat or whatever and only hear the game audio, then do shit like remove their horrendous overlays by disabling layers on the stream.
I should code that. But people would have me because it would effect their G2A ads.
>>338456687
O U R B O I S F R O M / S R G /
OH SHIT WADDUP
>>338456754
Hahaha that sounds exactly like my experience watching speedruns for real, perfect description. I wish that community wasn't so bad, maybe it used to be better when it was kind of new.
Also I bet TAS people are much less of fags than speedrunners.
>>338456786
I want a plugin that sends a rabid wolverine into the house of any faggot that uses twitch alerts every time some fucker subs/follows/donates. FUCK twitch alerts. FUCK the cunts that use it, and FUCK the shitstain that made it.
>>338456754
Speedrunners are such fucking fags. They're all such debbie downers.
>Get a PB in a game you've been speedrunning for months
>Man this time is so bad
Or they can't do shit without the tricks. It happens a shitload. If someone misses the quick kill they just have no fucking idea what to do, like a chicken with its head cut off.
>>338456771
space travel when
>>338456586
Speedrunning seems like a form of masochism. Also, the whole community seems bizarre. But Souls-runners seem to be having a good time. Also, I like Bizkit for Kingdom Hearts.
>>338456970
lel, so much impotent rage
What's your problem with twitch alerts?
I watch twitch (mainly cowsep, no one else) play league of legends. It's more like listening- it's good background noise while you do other stuff. I have never given money to any streamer nor talked to them, so saying it's all for the money/false-friendship thing is bullshit. I'm sure that's a part of it with some people, but the majority just like seeing people play games they like.
The only twitch streams I watch are for FGC tourneys like EVO and Capcom Cup.
Anything else where the person is making a ton of money just playing the hottest new release makes me feel like shit.
I work 10-12 hour days as a sous chef and most likely make less than them. The only thing that keeps me going is the thought that hard work will eventually pay off when I can move to higher position. I guess I can't complain though since I went into this knowing that I would make shit money for a while doing what I love.
>>338456986
Well once you reach a certain point you NEED to get the tricks to surpass that time. But there's gonna be a time where you need absolutely perfect play the whole time through, and that's just not gonna happen.
Like part of why MGR was such a shit speedgame, aside from certain sequences, was that you had to manipulate the boss AI. It was possible, but a lot of the time the bosses would just NOT do what you want. RAY was a run killer if you didn't get at least 2 (or 3? I forget.) headbutt attacks. If you got 5 you basically got the holy grail and had to not choke or you wasted a perfect run's setup.
>>338456970
What if it's smart or funny? I feel like you encountered only annoying ones.
>>338456970
Twitch alerts can be used in an "acceptable" way, where it's usually
>no sound
>a very small thing at the bototm of the screen and only for a few seconds
I don't think it's good, or ever will be good.
Problem is people use them like morons
>FUCK LOUD SOUND
>HUGE SPLASH LE MEME IMAGE THAT TAKES UP HALF THE ENTIRE SCREEN
The thing is people think that "donations" are part of the "culture" and accept it.
Could you imagine if someone on youtube put shit like that in their videos? It's incredibly obnoxious.
>>338457128
I completely understand, but I can't fathom doing that myself, because it's clearly fucking insane.
You see it all the time on speedrunners faces. They look broken and dejected. They aren't having fun, their grinding attempts for some kind of notoriety. It may have started because of love of the game, but that has long since passed.
I enjoy beating games "quickly" in that I rarely will fuck around and twiddle my thumbs, but the idea of resetting because I didn't get a perfect enemy pattern and replaying the same sections over and over does not sit well with me.
Autism comes to mind.
I wish people doing art on twitch was more popular, I'd watch that all the time
Or building stuff. /diy/ streams would be fantastic
>>338456970
Eh, I just don't like donations. Fuccbois always donate wewewewewe[...]wewewewe.
To be fair, 100% of content on regular TV is absolute creatively bankrupt dogshit written by castrated and braindead SJW cucks, it's understandable why some people would rather watch game streams
>>338457128
>>338457409
Guys, discussing speedrunners is even more autistic than speedrunning. Please don't.
>>338457218
But memes are the best thing about Twitch. Otherwise it's just people playing video games like fucking nerds.
>>338457438
So how's "Creative" directory working for you?
>>338457409
>but the idea of resetting because I didn't get a perfect enemy pattern and replaying the same sections over and over does not sit well with me.
Once I reached a point that I'd have to reset if I didn't get a perfect pattern I pretty much stopped. I don't give enough of a fuck to get some imaginary 'world record'.
>>338457578
Thank you my friend
>>338457409
i have autism and even I couldn't bother with speedrunning, its a waste of time when you could be playing more games.
>>338457578
holy shit some frenchie is putting cheese in a tomato. The absolute madman.
OJ POURED AND CANDLE LIT
WITH THIS CHANT I SUMMON KRIPP
>>338457680
>>338457618
I totally agree. It's not fun to grind attempts.
I was actually thinking about learning how to speedrun some games but I think once you get past the initial fun of learning some games and your first few runs it's just going to become a chore.
I'd liken to a party trick. I can solve a rubik's cube in like 3-5 minutes, but I'm not going to keep grinding attempts at them to be able to do it in less than one, because it isn't fun.
I would argue that beating a game like Dark Souls or MGR in even like 3 hours is pretty impressive, since your average playtime is significantly higher. My first playthrough of MGR was like 7 hours so doing it in half the time is pretty impressive, even though they'd be considered horrible times by the community as they're likely looking to complete the game at around the 1 and bit hour mark.
My friend and I watched some Russian guy lose all his money gambling tonight on twitch. I don't know why those channels aren't more popular.
All of you need to change your definition of what a JOB is. Just because you enjoy doing it or it may seem easy doesn't mean its not a job.
>>338417497
>>People don't watch streams because of that reason at all
And your defense of this statement is?
>>so what you're saying is complete nonsense
But WHY is it complete nonsense? You didn't even back that statement up with a reason.
>>People watch streams because it's interesting and entertaining, and that's all.
You under-estimate the vast amount of shitty people that stream on Twitch, who are barely even on it for gaming but just want to rake in the cash.
The quantity of people with massive voids in their social life is huge. An easy-mode solution to that is them feeling like they're part of a group by joining an online stream, and having people refer to them directly by their name.
If this wasn't the case, streamers wouldn't acknowledge their audience almost like it's a group of people hanging out with them in person, in the same room.
>>I think you're overlooking the situation
I think they're actually spot on.
Way before twitch existed people already watched camwhores. Sure, it's sex selling more-so than gaming, but people would still spend real life money just to hear their username used in context for a brief moment by the streamer.
Now, the concept has crossed over into gaming, merely because people sit in these streams for hours, most of which the streamer is constantly talking to their audience.
A mere dollar is all it takes to hear their name spoken, to see it on-screen in a nice big, flashy animation, etc.
>>paying someone money just to see your username pop up on screen for a short period of time, for them to acknowledge you for paying their bills, and then for them to return to grinding whatever game they're playing
>>interesting and entertaining
lol no
>>people doing streams for creative purposes, like speed-running for charity, or actually making content, or giving dev commentary on how the game was made, or showing tournaments
Much better.
THIS is when I consider streaming actually "interesting" or "entertaining".
>>338458212
>449 viewers
What a time to be alive
>>338458889
Wow. Thought that was someone hanging themselves after a bad loss at first.
>>338458968
Instead, it's almost 500 people watching a nice lady paint a wall.
The only talent on Twitch are speedrunners.
But people seem to like getting angry at people who do badly at videogames.
I don't.
I've livestreamed, but I don't know how long I can do it for.
>>338459186
Speedrunners are actually pretty bad at videogames, give them something other than the game they've been playing non-stop for months and they'll play worse than a 81 year old grandma or polygon reviewer
>>338459389
>>a 81 year old grandma
>>or polygon reviewer
There's a difference?
>>338459464
Yeah. Being a grandmother means you're not a virgin.
>>338459389
I almost have trouble believing that.
>>338459186
>talent
>speedrunners
You kidding man? It's all about staying on the tracks.
>>338457502
Twitch is basically the Trash TV for the youth of today, at least with the major channels. Same with all the Youtube drama, cringe, react or whatever shit.
>>338458206
i'd rather learn tricks to make certain annoying sections easier or to grind faster, but i wouldn't care to be the best in a game unless its competitive.
On some streams, I've seen people credited with 20 000$ of donations in the "Hall of Fame" list. Jesus christ.
>>338459687
Well played anon.
>>338459098
Oh. That makes more sense.
The worst part about Twitch is that it's impossible to actually become a popular streamer unless you're already popular or viewbot.(Like 90% of the steamers)
>>338459713
I said it earlier, but a lot of speedrunners aren't actually any good at their games if mess their tricks or strategies.
They practice tricks, not the game. They prepare for patterns, and don't actually know how to adapt if things don't go their way.
It's why deaths in speedruns are so common. It's not because the game is hard, or their trying to get through by the skin of their teeth, they just suck at the game and choose to go for some glass cannon strategies instead of trying to beat it legit.
>>338454818
No one cares when black people say nigger
>>338460187
Here's an example, summit1g. That BigHerp guy has donated 20750 dollars. TO A TWITCH STREAMER.
i used to watch Angrytestie play hon, because it was chill as fuck to have in on background.
Very good music selection, and the dude was exceptionally good at the game. He could 1v5 an entire team an it was entertaining. Also none of that "sub goal" or donation shit popups and memes. That was a pretty good stream man i miss it.
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