Madoka Magica: Never Be Game Over Edition
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Subs:
(protip, use nyaa)
TV: get "Meguca;" "tri4" for subbed commentaries
Compilation: get "Coal Girls"
Rebellion:
Meguca
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=552753
NAX (Aniplex subs, 720p)
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=537610
Reinweiss (Modified Aniplex subs with honorifics and JP name order, 720p)
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=537734
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Fanfiction:
http://pastebin.com/VRVQSNGY
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Doujinshi archives:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mad1y92708hlz
http://www.mediafire.com/madokadoujin
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
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Madoka Library:
http://piratepad.net/MadokaLibrary
http://sites.google.com/site/madokacatalog
https://mega.co.nz/#F!BIt1FAxR!Ebrx91Z0PT970NanZTWCFQ
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
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http://silvergardentl.blogspot.com/
http://yuri-ism.com/tag/madoka-magica/
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Latest English Releases
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Welcome, girls, to Aperture Suffering!
Time travel, unrequited love, terrible cosmic burdens... You're here because you suffer the worst, and we want in on it.
Let a test associate know if you experience mood swings, darkening soul gems or an urge to betray the person you love, because that's not part of the test.
Cave Johnson, we're done here.
>>2075412
More like top-tier doujinshi when?
>>2075388
We need to update the fic list. Split it into Ongoing/Complete/Abandoned and add a couple more.
So we know Madoka enjoys suffering and Mami is a pedophile. What are the other girls like sexually?
>>2075440
>Madoka enjoys suffering
What?
>Madoka surprises Homura with threesome with MadoWraith
Make it happen Ayane.
>>2075508
It's also essential, unfortunately, thanks to how often he shows up and how often people respond to him.
>>2075440
>Homu's a secret sub
>Kyouko likes it rough until, at some point every time she has sex, the aggressiveness falls off and she demands cuddling and comfort
>Sayaka is almost the opposite of the above - she tends to start off sweet but gets very into sex quickly
>Nagisa is somewhat selfish because she's young and only just awakening to her own sense of sexuality. She's a bit demanding of Mami for a lot of the focus during sex. Mami is happy to oblige
>Animedia MadoHomu swimsuit spread
>"Their feelings connect them for eternity"
>>2075605
>>Homu's a secret sub
The entire gang knows and the only reason that Homura hasn't been shouting it from the rooftops is because Madoka is too kind to order Homura to do so.
Does anyone know what happened in the latest chapter of the wraith arc?
>>2075623
Haven't read it, but I'm fairly sure that lesbians were suffering in it.
>>2075623
Check the last thread for the link to the Korean translation.
As far as I can tell, Wraithdoka is watching over a comatose Homura. It looks like she's authetically wanting to help Homura, but we still ahve two issues. Kyouko andMami do combat with the wraiths. Kyouko defeats Sayawraith and a bunch of lesser wraiths, but is severly injured in the process. Mami fights Kyouwraith and Mamiwraith, and is beaten. MadoWraith appears to save her though and that's where the chapter ends.
Things we learned:
-Wraiths can now time travel
-MadoWraith may have feelings for Homura due to embodying Homura's love
-MadoWraith has taken on Madoka's magical girl form with the use of her ribbons.
-Wraiths are way too OP
-Girls who have had their souls/emotions stolen are forever seperated from the Law of Cycles
>>2075623
Kyouko also explained that wraith girls are traps.
Are there any pictures, fanfictions or doujins of Godoka and Devil Homu guiding their human versions through sex? I had a dream last night of this and it was very sweet and cute.
>>2075675
Were they guiding their partners or was it selfcest?
>>2075675
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/she_must_want_to_hear_a_secret_story
Close enough
>>2075627
What the fuck. You guys talk shit about the spin offs as being non canon, but this shit really is non canon. That fucking breaks all the established rules of the Madoka universe.
>>2075678
Devil Homu was holding Homura's butt and guiding her in the proper way to thrust during tribadism, while Madoka rested her head in Godoka's lap. Then Homura and Madoka moved on to a double dildo while Devil Homu and Godoka watched while holding hands. It was so cute, I wish the dream had lasted longer.
>>2075680
Technically there were no "rules" in Madoka's new universe because we only spent 5 minutes there, but it's feeling pretty out of control. Maybe that will change in chaoter 8. We don't have an English translation, so we'll see what happens when that comes out.
I don't consider WA canon, but Homuverse is seeming like a better place every chpater I read. If by insanity WA is canon, then hail Homucifer becaise Madokami's universe was somehow marginally worse than the old one.
>>2075675
Closest that comes to mind is GIRLIE but the human counterparts aren't exactly willing in that scenario.
It does have some hilarious screencaps, though.
>>2075691
Futa doesn't belong on /u/.
>>2075691
Why do so many people keep trying to get people to read futa on the yuri board recently? Fuck off already, you aren't welcome here.
>>2075699
I personally don't have a problem with futa because MadoHomu is beautiful no matter what form it takes, but futa is for /d/.
>>2075699
male futa exists you know...
>>2075697
I've actually always wondered who said not guilty and who absented.
>>2075704
Kyouko: not guilty
Madoka: abstain
>>2075706
Makes sense.
>>2075686
Reminder that WA is written by the genius who gave us evil nuts and clone megucas.
>>2075716
Wraith Arc is just Kazumi on steroids.
The Wraith Arc is ass so far, in my opinion, but if it gave us anything great it's straight haired/no "twintails" Madoka.
We got a few glimpses of Madoka with that kind of hairdo in the series and I always loved the way she looked, even if we didn't get much of it.
Thankfully, MadoWraith is giving me all the qt shoulder-length hair Madoka I need.What're madowraith's tags on pixiv/danbooru? I'm having trouble finding pictures of her
>>207573
MadoWraith Homu
マドほむ
>>2075627
And Mami can see Wraithdoka, even when in chapter 6 it's said the appearance of a mimetic Wraith only can be seen by those who have memories of the person they mimic
>>2075741
Mami saw it as a regular wraith who Homura was hanging out with for some reason, not as Madoka's image.
>>2075743
yeha, but at the end of chapter 7, Mami saw her as a normal girl
>>2075752
Maybe they do have some suppressed memories of the old universe then?
>>2075733
魔獣まどか
NSFW MadoHomu lovin'
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B01Dn3kBTNnuUG81MElnQ2NBM2c
>>2075863
Sample
All I want is these two to make out and have lots of crazy lesbian sex and more hand holding if need be. In the name of Godoka and Homucifer please make it happen holy damn
>>2075752
The wraith incepted memories into Mami at the end of chapter 6 using Homura's memory rewrite.
>>2075620
how nice of madoka.
Homura's still learning how to be a good girl though.
>>2076079
>Yanks chain
>"Be obedient"
Hottest part of that doujin.
>>2075738
>>2075859
Thanks anons
>>2076216
She is definitely a cute. I would love to see her and Madoka fight over Homu. Each doing lewder and lewder things to Hom to prove they love her the most.
>>2076238
>She is definitely a cute.
It's totally the hair. No-ribbon-in-hair is best Madoka look
>I would love to see her and Madoka fight over Homu. Each doing lewder and lewder things to Hom to prove they love her the most.
l-lewd!
Would they also do increasingly lewd things to one another, to get Homu to choose between them?
>Mado and Wraith try to get one another off, because the 'loser' who cums first will be too sore for Homura
>>2076247
Cool fanfic.
Go write it.
>>2076247
>Would they also do increasingly lewd things to one another, to get Homu to choose between them?
Absolutely. I'm concerned Homu's heart wouldn't be able to take this excitement.
>>2075675
this artist draws really cute comics
Does anyone have more of these Mobage scenes?
>>2076276
>Absolutely. I'm concerned Homu's heart wouldn't be able to take this excitement.
>Determined enough to ultimately suffer 12 years of rewriting time to save Madoka
>Fights an untold amount of enemies, including Walpurgis
>Survives
>Death comes from a cute-and-lewd induced heart attack
Not a bad way to go, really: seeing double qts going at it for your approval and admiration
>>2076267Can't tell if sarcasm
>>2076343
>Can't tell if sarcasm
Partly sarcasm, but I'd still read it
>>2076342
>that mobage
Fuck, that's nostalgic.
Sorry, I only have the Japanese ones.
>>2076392
any Jap speakers out there willing to provide a script?
>>2076328
Got a link to that one? I can't seem to find the rest of it.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=667946
https://twitter.com/SLVR79
i think i found it on their twitter but it was a long time ago, gl
< one of my favorites
>>2076440
https://twitter.com/SLVR79/status/650201257827655680
https://twitter.com/SLVR79/status/650201548266450944
nvm i found it
picture unrelated, but content
>>2076454
Thanks sis.
The reactions of the dark haired dude are always amusing. Kinda feels like he has a crush on Madoka, but I can't read moon so I have no fucking clue what the context is.
>>2076456
He did its translated on danbooru. Anyway homura wasn't having any of that and promptly settled things
>>2076480
She was then promptly shut down by Madoka, who reminded her she was at work.
>>2076107
The subtlety is that it's actually "become obedient/submissive" as a state of being rather than a temporary direction. Madoka's intention is to break homura's will to fight her down until she's meekly loving her again.
>>2076326
no, it's madokami and madoka.
>>2076328
haha, that's the poor fucker that has a crush, I can't remember if it's on madoka or homura but the shit eating grin homura gives this guy before doing this is great.
>>2076575
Even hotter.
>>2076392
>Kyoko: Oh, good for you. Now let me guess, >Sayaka's going to top us all off with a bad luck fortune, right? Ahahaha-...
>Sayaka: "Horrible luck"... [Editor's note: dai-kyō, (大凶) is the worst fortune you can get with an omikuji]
>Kyoko: ! !
>Player: Wow...so a horrible luck fortune really does exist...
>Sayaka: "The person you are waiting for....won't come."
>Player: Uwaa... Sayaka's seriously getting depressed...
>Kyoko: I..it's just a piece of paper, it's no big deal! Give it to me. I'll go tie it on a tree for ya!
>Sayaka: ...Will I end up alone this year..?
>Kyoko: D..don't worry Sayaka, that won't happen. I'll...err...I'll stay with you!
>Player: Looks like Kyoko's actually trying to cheer Sayaka up for once. Kind of a weird scene.
>>2076581
Sayaka is either bi or was unaware of her sexuality, so you just kind accept that dick is involved at some point in her interactions at some point.
>Service terminated in November 2012
>Madoka and Homura are the only ones with Halloween outfits
Was this intentional?
>>2076586
but I thought the whole point of this mobage is a dating sim where the girls all talk to you. I remember seeing similar screen caps and they all reference the viewer.
>>2076592
Not at all. You play as a newbie magical girl and go on adventures with the girls. Most of the scenes are Rebellion-tier in terms of gay.
>>2076599
Is this game still available?
>>2076611
No, the service was ended in 2012.
Is anyone else having a hard time moving on from Rebellion?
There's just something in it. I can't move on.
>>2076526
Still a victory for Homura.
>>2076685
No. I just figure they'll work things out in the end. The conflict they have set up is kinda forced to begin with and it's almost purely on Homura's end. She needs to get her ass spanked and reminded that she's loved and that her and Madoka are partners, not enemies.
I'm not Urobuchi or Shinbo, so I obvously have no say in this subject, but at this point both characters have at one point lost everything they hold dear to them. It would be ridiculous if they can't at least have each other in the end.
>>2076699
They will get their happy ending, I'm sure of it.
>>2076711
>Madoka: -internally- She CANNOT know I'm enjoying this.
>>2076575
Is Madokami going to have to break a bitch?
>>2076712
I'm getting more of a "I didn't know girls could squirt that hard" vibe from her face. Like she's not regretting keeping her gloves on.
All japanese anons from /a/ and /meduka/ who can read entire stuff are very sceptical about possible sequel. I really don't like how community acts. That reminds me idiots who still waiting haruhi s3.
>>2076843
I go to /a/ and /meduka/. It's literally just you, ESL.
>>2076843
>Haruhi s3
Didn't Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan air last year with 16 episodes and an OVA?
If this community pisses you off, why do you show up? Hell, 95% of the commentary in this thread is about the Madoka mobage games, Wraith Arc, BDSM scenarios, porn and bitching about futa.
>>2076685
I felt the same way until I read jed blue's shit on the movies, and the tarrot card stuff.
Both seem pretty autistic people but they know their post modern symbolism so it was very helpful to see the light in rebellion.
>>2076685
Because it has no sense of closure. It ends on a literally cliff hanger. The series cannot end with Madoka and Homura separated. Either they both become gods, both stay girls, or die together.
>>2076685
What do you mean by moving on?
>>2076879
The ending to Rebellion ends on a very similar note to Beginnings. No closure when things seem to be their worst. Which is pretty apt because Rebellion is essentially a new beginning.
My gf, who had never seen the series, had the same reaction to Beginnings (she thoight it was the end) as she did the ending to Rebellion.
Is there anything new/special in the first two films or can I go straight from the TV series to Rebellion?
>>2077137
You can go straight to Rebellion, no problem. I do recommend watching the first two movies though, they do have some new content.
>>2077137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Euy0AiGozI
There's a new OST, better animation, and that winner of a scene up there.
Other than that, it's mostly the same. Beginnings is episodes 1-8 crammed into a 2 hour movie, so they trimmed out a few scenes (namely Mami's wish, Homura threatening to kill Sayaka). Eternal has a few additions, mostly for the better.
Man, does anyone here have homura tamura vol 1 and 2 in english or atleast a link? It would be greatly appreciated if anyone has it and posts!
>>2077282
I posted it through my DropBox. I think one of the anons here put it in the archive. If not, I can post it here when I get home from work in about 6 hours.
>>2077284
I can't find it in the archives. I appreciate your help! I hope you share the link when you're free!
>>2077137
There's a new OST (I find it to be inferior and usually ill-timed compared to TV) and they cut some content, I prefer TV. You can watch the movies if you want but you really don't lose much by going from TV to Rebellion
>>2077284
I remember seeing it on the previous thread, but I could never get dropbox to work for me. Can anyone mirror it on mediafire?
>>2077307
I removed the file because it was taking up too much space on my DropBox. I'll post it on Google Drive and see if that helps.
>Nobody ever scans MamiNagi doujins
Why is life so difficult?
>>2077485
they don't like loli when its yuri only.
>>2077485
It's a damn shame.
MamiNagi a cute. A CUTE!
>>2077493
Oneeloli is the best
>>2077485
I wouldn't mind some cute non-H stuff of them living together and stuff like that. They are super cute, and I'm not against lolis, just cant do underage like that.
This thread needs more lewd.
pantsu
Would HomuHomu do this with her new devil powers?
>select all images with flowers
I wonder how many times Godoka did this.
>>2077512
I have always looked at that relationship as more familiar than Yuri to be honest
>>2077543
As many times as she cares to.
>>2077549
That's what SHAFT wants you to think.
>>2077539
>>2077534
>>2077525
>>2077548
If you are going to do this, at least don't do it with such shit quality art
>>2077551
Indeed.
>>2077554
First I understand.
Those next three are pretty good, I think. But fine.
Why is Japan so bizarre with their laws regarding porn? I mean look at this. You can clearly see everything. The black rectangle covers absolutely nothing, yet if you don't put it in, it suddenly becomes illegal. Why?
HomuHomu
>>2077555
1. awkward angle
2. hips out of proportion
3. faces are a bit blocky.
Mami a pedo
>>2077575
meh
Hello.
New to PMMM. Just watched the series. twice. then the movies. then rebellion. A little less sold on rebellion, but the mami-homura fight was beyond amazing.
And I want to keep going. But I have no idea what I should do next.
I am trying to figure out all the stickied links at the top of this thread. Reading though this thread and the old one didn't help...
Question: If you were going to binge all of PMMM, how would you do it? CD's? mangas? which ones in what order? Is it all English translated?
Thanks for any replies!
>>2077580
Anime, then manga and CDs, if I had to do all three. English subbed.
Toys are fine, right?
>>2077548
I really like the scenario, even though I think Mami would def be the dom here, but their faces are kind of ruining it. That, and Kyoko is either a midget or Mami is freakishly huge. It's not obvious from the position Mami is in, but if she were to stand up with those proportions she would tower over her.
>>2077539
Sure. There probably were a few HomuHarem time lines too.
>>2077591
Harem route is best route
>>2077595
Who are you and why are you so angry with me?
>>2077607
>everyone is sick of you
No one had a problem with me until you showed up.
>degrading characters
What? How does fanart "degrade" characters?
>>2077609
I think you have me mixed up with someone else.
Spoilered because Doom Paul.
>>2077614
Saved.
>>2077613
When is this guy gonna make some HoMado yuri?
>Go and be productive
>Come back home
>See 60 new posts
>Oh wow, was there a new project announcement?
>See /a/ tier shit autism
At least there's some decent porn.
>>2077622
I don't know but he should hurry up.
>>2077623
Thanks senpai.
>>2077581
Ok. but is there a certain order they should be read/listened to in?
>>2077651
It's up to the individual, really.
>>2077651
Most important things you should check out
Audio Dramas:
Memories of You: TL 1 from Madoka's perspective. It's a good mix of funny and sad.
Farewell Story: Set between episodes 4-7. Mainly expands on Kyouko's backstory and her fall to cynicism.
Manga that is pseudo-canon
The Different Story: Manga based on Farewell Story. Set in an alternate timeline. Gives a lot of attention to Mami.
Wraith Arc: Ongoing. 2 chapters left. Stpry of between the series and Rebellion. It's super gay, but also super convoluted. If it's any indication, they're not even trying to hide the gay anymore.
PSP Game segements: if you can find them translated on YouTube, there are some excellent character interactions. Urobuchi did work on the PSP game directly, so it's safe to say that you can consider the relationships in the game mostly canon even if the events are not.
Non-canon spinoffs
Tart Magica: Joan of Arc. It's surprisingly good.
Oriko Magica: Actual canon yuri. Worth reading.
Suzune Magica: Edgy. Not that good.
Kazumi Magica: Only read it of you're a completionist.
Homura Tamura: Parody spin-off where Homura fucks up the timelines beyond recongition. You'll either love it to death or hate it.
>>2077666
Those titties, those hips, this artist is fantastic. I wish he or she would make more yuri.
>>2077696
He did a bunch of Lucky Star doujin
>>2077696
>that image and filename
>my sides
Bocchi posters really are on another level
>>2077698
Not enough, need more.
>>2077549
I've seen people say this, but I see it more like those nee-san and imouto yuri series.
Mami is waiting for the perfect time to lay down the titty meguca lovin', and Nagisa literally wants to "eat" cheese
>>2077671
Thanks very much.
>>2077734
They're only about six years apart
Why does this guy replying to posts with HomuMado or KyouSaya as crack? That's hardly the general consensus on "canon" relations.
>>2077829
I'm just a crossposter from the /yys/ threads that does タツノコッソ scans that enjoys homumado/kyousaya on the side.
No need to get obsessed over me, so carry on.
>>2077832
He's paranoid and by this point thinks everyone is some /a/ shitposter called !Akemi. Just ignore him.
>>2077828
Here, this should explain everything.
>>2075392
He has been a problem for quite some time now, and consistently evades bans.
>>2077865
Good to know, then.
I definitely remember seeing something similar happen in doujin comment threads on sadpanda before as well.
>>2077877
I may have seen the same thing. I think it was a KyoMami doujin.... but yeah, that was probably ACK-san. He is really obsessive and pops up all over the place.
If the word 'mongoloid' comes up, that's a good indication that you are speaking to him.
>>2075680
I'm pretty sure WA will be core of new project(if it ever happens), because Rebellion leaves no good ideas to write. Wraith Homura is already in concept movie.
>>2078011
Wraiths existing and feeding off of the curses of humanity was already established by episode 12 and reiterated at the end of Rebellion. Wraith Arc's existence has bearing on the existence and behavior of wraiths.
Sayaka is attacked by a Wraith in the concept movie. It's more and likely that HomuWraith was born from her emotions and it'll play a role in her regaining her memory. That said, we see HomuWraith roasted, so it's not like it'll play a massive role. I imagine it'll play a role in getting the ball rolling, not so much be the core of the project.
>>2077760
They're just super cute together
>>2078011
>Rebellion leaves no good ideas to write
I don't necessarily disagree with this though. Even though I enjoyed Rebellion, I do worry that it fucked the franchise in order to get the most out of a sequel. If they said the story was done forever, that would have been one thing, but they were very adamant come 2014 that the story wasn't over and that they were already coming up with ideas for an eventual continuation. I sometimes worry Quartet is too busy tripping over themselves trying to come up with a "unique" story with some sort of twist rather than a solid, fulfilling conclusion.
>>2078011
>thinks the Wraith Arc is enough to branch a new project off of and stent realize it easily leads into Rebellion
>Still doubting that there's a new project even when we know for a fact it's in the works
>"Rebellion leaves no good ideas to write"
Is this bait? This has to be bait, right?
>>2078029
The cutest
>>2078032
Sadly, no. This poster believes there is no sequel because Shaft isn't giving us hourly updates on the project or something.
>>2078042
I can't tell if this is bait or just the general autism of this fan base. If that's how you feel, just stop posting. You are literally the only one in this thread bringing up the new project.
>>2078045
And I don't understand is it your overoptimism or simply escapism. There is still no project announcement but you believe that they are already finishing something.
>>2078048
>Sequel production has been confirmed by SHAFT, Aniplex, and Quartet
>Any one who believes this is overoptimistic or engaging in escapism
>>2078056
If it was really so, there would be a storm over internet already.
>>2078024
Clearly not. Wraith Homura probably will be main antagonist, devil Homura will play some minor role.
>>2078060
>what is every time we've gotten info/a new promo video
I mean, the hype is a bit subdued because of every video being a camrip, but it's a thing
>>2078152
>Wraith Homura will probably be the main antagonist
>Devil Homura will play some minor role
>The character who is literally the plot will play a minor role
>The entire conflict set up by the last movie will be completely ignored in favor of a manga few people read and even fewer took seriously
If you're trolling, congratulations. My jimmies were rustled.
>>2078155
Don't bother responding. Anon is trolling or retarded.
>>2078160
>>The character who is literally the plot will play a minor role
Yeah, just like Madokami played such a huge role in Rebellion.
She already got her development at max level. That's why they introduce wraith Homura(if they do anything at all).
>>2078155
I mean the fan base did explode over it. If you read the afterwords of Madoka doujinshi post-Madogatari Osaka, they're almost all "I'm excited for the sequel and I hope Madoka and Homura can be finally happy together". Obviously we're eagerly anticipating news. The fan base is hyped. The "casual" fans and the people who just happened to be at the right place during it's TV run will probably watch it but don't care that much.
>MamiNagi pic dump begins
>Sidetracked by the new project doubting autist
MamiNagi a cute. That said, the lack of Nagisa 34, normal or yuri, is so odd to me. She's got a great design, but it's like the PMMM fanbase - even in Nipland - is the only one with an issue with loli
>>2078265
It doesn't help that both characters die early on in the first series and that the couple would be a tertiary pair if they were in the same ballpark of canon as the main couple of madohomu and beta couple of kyosaya
>>2078265
I think the lack of MamiNagi art is due to how much of a forced, fan service character Nagisa is. I don't really hate her, but she really didn't need to exist and doesn't even have much of a personality herself. I hope she gets more development in later additions to the series, but as she is now, she serves little purpose to the story.
Here's a cute SFW SayaKyo doujin
A little Sayaka gets lost in the woods, and a little Kyoko shows up to help her.
Enjoy.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B01Dn3kBTNnuT3lVNGk5NDNyNGs
>>2078418
preview
>>2078418
I also commissioned a scanlator to translate sweet pain and another doujin which hopefully will be ready this weekend. I'll post them when I have them.
Plus, I have about 6 more raw doujin's I'll be scanning over the next month.
>>2078424
You da real MVP nee-san.
>>2078367
>Red herring fanservice character paired with red herring fanservice character
I see nothing wrong here. I wish they did atleast give her a one shot or something in Kirara that explains her backstory. She gets included in the other manga from time to time, but she doesn't have anything to make her feel "real".
>>2078473
You really think Mami is a fanservice character? I think she's absolutely vital to the plot, just because she's got dem titties doesn't mean she's just for fanservice. She's what shows the girls and the viewer that being a magical girl isn't love and candy and tea parties, it's fucked up cosmic horror shit.
Nagisa exists just to try and "pair the spare" and to reference Charlotte.
>>2078486
I meant it half-way joking. Fan servics as in titties and flashy attacks. She fills that role, but she's also a red herring hero. She has no development beyond being the initial mentor to our band of miserable lesbians and her death is more vital to the story than her life. Without TDS, she's a plot device. And Mami is pure fan service in Rebellion.
>>2078493
Good points, though I still don't consider her a fanservice character. Well, except for in rebellion when she's wearing that bath towel.
>>2078495
>Well, except for in rebellion when she's wearing that bath towel.
What's so bad about that? Everybody bathes.
I think displaying her good hygiene habits adds a lot to her development as a character.
>>2078495
Nagisa's role was pretty much to lead up to this.
1. Bebe is a witch
2. Sayaka remembers witches, which she shouldn't
3. Sayaka and Nagisa are witches, but they aren't the witch.
In the same way, I see Nagisa as a plot device as much as Mami. But yeah, fan service is too harsh for Mami. I'm hoping in the next project she has an actual role beyond titties, flash, and being decapitated.
Who the was she talking to?
>>2078500
Is it confirmed Kyouko and Homura regularly bathe? I'm concerned that Homura doesn't even eat. Madoka upsets her so much in this scene, she never actually drinks her coffee.
>>2078507
Well, we all know Kyoko doesn't bathe.
I think Homura gets around bathing thanks to going back in time. I don't think the dirt clings to her.
Of course, she is pretty raunchy by the end of the timeline.
>>2078516
That's really cute!
I need more Sayaka Kyoko bathing now.
>>2078513
Kyouko may be homeless but she's no bum. She lives in fancy hotel rooms.
>>2078521
Only when she can break into them.
Thou I bet Kyoko doesn't bathe just some Sayaka will make her bathe with the promise of bathing with her.
>>2078418
This artstyle I don't like
Also anyone else think this shot and their poses are hilarious.
Um, where is the homura tamura eng verio?
>>2078367
I'd like to disagree because I like Nagisa, but you're pretty much correct. She's very cute and well designed, but ultimately doesn't have much to stand out, and hasn't done anything of note.
I hope the next project expands on her, even a bit
>>2078528
I'm grateful to the person who translates and typesets these, but the word choices are so awkward in the pair of vol 2 omake.
>>2078599
She's the token loli who says precocious, wise remarks every once in a while. That's enough to get you started, especially for an ancillary character.
I just wonder how much time, if any, she spends in Bebe form.
>>2078845
>I just wonder how much time, if any, she spends in Bebe form.
I mean, I'm just guessing here but it seemed like she stayed as Bebe only in the Homu labyrinth as a means to spy on Mami and/or Homura and keep things in check.
I don't know why anyone, even a qt loli, would want to stay in a body that's more or less useless and invalid. Bebe doesn't move efficiently at all, and is super small.
The ass on Madoka with the new Luminous figure. Someone's been doing squats.
>>2078875
I wish I had money for this.
>>2078875
Wedding rings?
>>2078875
It's a shame the faces were better on the other one
>>2078507
Homura is never seen to ingest anything afaik.
>>2078473
good job homura. Discipline that basic eating loli. How does one grow to love all kinds of cheese while having the flavor palate of a idiot.
>>2078898
It helps develop the cold, inhuman facade we see from the beginning of the show; later on, when said facade breaks it's all the worse because of how much fans believed it, thanks in part to the coldness.
>>2078904
I always took it to mean that food is basically worse than worthless to a puella magi, and that eating was a waste of food. but thats just an interpretation.
>>2078890
Just meguca rings. Homura seems to be wearing one in the concept movie though.
>>2078892
Faces and hand holding were better.
>>2078905
They're dolls. Remember that the "true" girls are in the soul gems. Eating is essentially a way to act human. Homura's completely rejected her humanity and probably most unnecessary aspects of it. I question if she even sleeps.
>>2078917
They're still human bodies, if they didn't eat then it would probably cost them valuable magic to maintain energy.
>>2078919
Mitakihara Anti-Materials (authoritative source, I know) Calorie Mates. If she lives by herself, I think it could be assumed she can cook. I just don't think she eats regularly.
>>2078919
>They're still human bodies, if they didn't eat then it would probably cost them valuable magic to maintain energy.
Probably not a lot, though - a steady sip, but a small one I'd have to guess.
>>2078922
*says she lives off Calorie Mates.
>>2078923
She knows where to find grief seeds, so it probably doesn't matter much and she'll reset anyways. She barely has enough time to starve as it is.
>>2078874
Finally they accept the Madonkadonk
>>2078874
>>2078954
Nevermind, it's not the Madonkadonk. Homura's the one with the explosive ass.
Sweet Pain translated into English.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B01Dn3kBTNnuQ1RKdXFvU3Nlb1E
>>2078528
Was wraith Madoka section dropping a hint?
Something about 'that's more like a witch than a wraith'?
Interesting.
Or, maybe I'm reading into it too much.
>>2079041
That's the Kyoko & Sayaka part
>>2079041
You're reading into it correctly. Kyubey stated that the "despair" harvested from Homura's soul gem by the wraiths was completely different from the other girls when he was analyzing Madowraith. I think it was strongly implied if not outright confirmed Homura existence is a cosmic error when Madowraith gave her the lecture on why the wraiths attacked her. Her emotional energy mutated the wraiths because her wish and soul gem are from the witch world.
>>2079029
>Homura's the one with the explosive ass.
I guess she has to store her cache of guns somewhere
>>2078924
>*says she lives off Calorie Mates.
She really is Big Boss
>>2078919
>theyre still human bodies
it's implied they are much stronger and tougher and therefore inhuman, though they are made from human bodies, theres no reason to think that they opperate on the same biological needs
>>2078599
theyre wrong. just because shes not a major character doesn't mean a red herring wasn't necissary for rebellion.
>>2079041
They're contaminated by Homulilly. Pay attention to the pin motif on these guys.
>>2079206
>Contaminated by something yet to be born
>>2079207
You're right. That's why a magical girl can't go to LoC if wraiths digest their emotions, because they are actually killing the witch even before it's born.
However, Homulilly is too strong due to the karmic potential that Homura accumulated during her time loops. It's like a 'poisoned food'.
>>2079039
>pg 11, "I have make her"
I have to make her
>>2079209
>That's why a magical girl can't go to LoC if wraiths digest their emotions, because they are actually killing the witch even before it's born.
Let's wait for this whole reveal actually be explained. This is such a devastating reveal that it almost invalidates Madoka's sacrifice. It seems like it's only there to add some sort of tension factor. We already know everyone lives through this.
>However, Homulilly is too strong due to the karmic potential that Homura accumulated during her time loops. It's like a 'poisoned food'.
It really doesn't seem it has to do simply with karmic potential. They specifically use the word emotional energy. We know Homura's emotional energy is indeed different. An emotion no one can understand. An emotion that she's been saving for Madoka (how anyone can argue that line was platonic is beyond me). An emotion greater than hope or despair.
Okay my emails just told me "To the Stars" just updated. I stopped reading it a while before Rebellion came out, is it still good? Was it ever good or is my nostalgia clouding my memory? Did the author ever try to work the story around Rebellion or did they just ignore it?
I really remember liking it because it felt like a Halo novel, but I don't want to start reading it again until it's finished. I'm surprised it's been going on for so damn long.
>>2077561
The actual, specific answer is that the american overseer after world war 2 demanded it because he saw the squidfucking woodcut or something and he was a huge prude. It's stayed for 70 years now because "porn needs to be racier" is political suicide to bring up in parliament.
>>2077561
>The black rectangle covers absolutely nothing, yet if you don't put it in, it suddenly becomes illegal.
Actually, I'm not convinced this translucent black rectangle would be enough to get the artist off the hook if it ever went to court. Japanese porn laws are notoriously vague, and if the authorities cared they could probably bust lots of artists for not censoring their work enough.
>>2079296
Doujin (read: low or non-profit) artists can get away with a lot more than "pro" hentai and ecchi artists. Some pro stuff will have the whole thing whited out or scrambled like their real people porn.
Fanartists tend not to give a shit because nobody's going to kick in the door waving the steel sword on their hobbyist work.
>>2079254
It's good, but yes as a hard sci-fye/coming of age story. If you already read the earliest parts you're over the hurdle of huge world building. And it does get more /u/ as it goes on.
The story was made (And plotted) before rebellion so besides some shout-outs there was no plan or want to crowbar rebellion in somehow.
>>2079254
>don't want to start reading it again until it's finished
You're in for a long wait then...
Volume 1: Quantum Entanglement
- started 2011-09-24 (4 years 9 months 1 day ago)
- 16 regular chapters
- 1 interlude chapter
Volume 2: Inflationary Expansion
- 15 regular chapters
- 1 interlude chapters
Volume 3: Ontological Paradox
- 12 regular chapters (so far)
- 2 interlude chapters, 1 planned
Volume 4: Einstein-Rosen Bridge
- ?? regular chapters
- 1 interlude chapter planned
Volume 5: Dark Energy
- ?? regular chapters
- 1 interlude chapter planned
Volume 6: Singularity
- ?? regular chapters
- ?? interlude chapters planned
source: http://ttshieronym.tumblr.com/post/55779437700/future-interlude-title-change
>>2079534
We'll face heat death before the epic ends.
>>2079547
I don't think you understand how wishes and entropy interact.
>>2079254
Its got yuri, but its not madoka magica except for tiny tiny tiny tiny bits.
>>2079573
I'd say it's a pretty good extrapolation of the series itself (if you ignore Rebellion).
But the actual cast of the anime are supporting characters instead of being the protagonists, so in that sense you're correct.
>>2079547
nah, just ~2021-22 imo
>>2079600
I dunno about that. I like it, and to be fair the small details about futuristic daily life is far from the least likely I've seen in sci-fi, so it has some interesting stuff there for sure. But most to all of the main plot is really completely removed from anything Madoka and 100% OC, and even the stuff that isn'tis mostly focused on Oriko i.e. spin-off stuff tangentially related to the actual show. I can't remember, is Oriko even confirmed canon? Well, either way.
Beyond that, other than being fairly grim, I also don't think it's a particularly good extrapolation of the themes or indeed the genre of Madoka either. Magical girls -> Space-opera is a cool and novel approach, but hardly an obvious or natural development.
>>2079600
>good extrapolation
You're thinking of a different magical girl series
>>2079039
Thanks you !
>>2079600
Extrapolation might be too strong a word, but it does take a premise of the end of PMMM and say, 'Okay, so what if the GS to G-cube does change the basic economics of magical girl cooperation?' and moves forward to the alien invasion.
I mean, PMMM has it's own tone and story, and focus. I know that people that want dark magical girl stories are not always people who love science fiction that also has legit magic and not 'magic that is a type of science.'
TtS is great in my opinion, is clearly /u/, but it's more like Cryptonomicon or Anathem then Rebellion. (I mean, Rebellion is an intensely personal story/journey of one person, while TtS is an ensemble cast. And PMMM spent the entire story in one town, with five main characters with a max of 3 of any import in a single episode.)
>>2079602
If he even finishes. That's why I'm not bothering with it.
What I don't get is, if he was going to spend 5+ years on writing something, why do it with a fanfic that will never make him any money. Kind of seems like a waste to me.
>>2079655
I assume like with the many other overly lengthy pieces of fiction I am/have followed through the years, they initially didn't think it would take that long and indeed produced content at a rate that would probably mean finishing up in a couple years with initial estimations. But then a combination of the story growing larger than imagined and severely slowed update-rate ruins everything.
One popular example on /u/ would be Inter Nos for example, though author health might take part of the blame there. Another fic I follow is at 60 chapters or something and probably about 65 - 70% done if I had to guess, but the first ~45 chapters were written in a year and a bit while it's was 3 - 4 months between the last few chapters.
Or for a mainstream answer, look no further than GRRM. Well, not the 'fanfic that doesn't make money' part, but the rest applies.
>>2079655
>if he was going to spend 5+ years on writing something, why do it with a fanfic that will never make him any money. Kind of seems like a waste to me.
It's all for the art, nee-san. Despite how many trashy books are out there, getting published isn't the easiest thing in the world, and there's no guarantee of success even after publishing.
So fanfic authors - who like writing, and like that people read their writing, and know that their works will never get published (because they don't own the series or characters) - get to express themselves and develop stories without having to worry about anything but the actual art of writing and story-telling. They even get to do it on their own schedules and whims.
Not everything is about money, and when it comes to art that's especially true.t. a fanfic writer
>>2079663
Some of the people I follow on Pixiv have fanfiction novels on sale, pic related. If it weren't for Western/US copyright laws, the author of TtS could probably make money off of it.
>>2078418
>>2079671
In a lot of different fan-work cases Nipland is a bit more fair to fan content creators.
The entire doujin market, for example - be it doujin music/games/porn/stories/fanfics/etc.
I've seen some fanfic writers with patreon pages. It's usually not much, just a couple hundred dollars a month, but at least that's something.
>>2079676
>wasting food
>>2079655
>If he even finishes. That's why I'm not bothering with it.
That's not how you do it, neechan. You just find a story, favorite & follow it, and may even some day get a lovely surprise in your inbox. If you read only finished stories you won't get to read much...
>if he was going to spend 5+ years on writing something, why do it with a fanfic that will never make him any money. Kind of seems like a waste to me.
Some people like to write for fun!
>>2079655
Shit, might as well ask why I don't make money playing video games or talking to idiots on 4chan. Not everything is about money, because once you have 'enough' money you can do what you want with your off time.
>>2079218
>>2079039
Here's the fixed page
>>2079792
>Shit, might as well ask why I don't make money playing video games or talking to idiots on 4chan.
That's why you should shit post from work.
>>2080156
>Kyouko and Madoka
Definitely one of the rarest pairings. It's still cute, though
>>2080372
But I like it because it;s degrading and shitting on them. Doesn't that just make it work for you?
Going to scan 1 or 2 of these tomorrow then clean and upload them over the next week.
/u/ decide which ones.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10599233
>>2080377
Ignore. Report. Nothing works. Nothing matters.
>>2080390
MadoHomufag here. The first one has been done and translated already. Thank you for everything you do.
>>2080399
KK thanks for the heads up.
Could you link me to it?
>>2080403
https://nhentai.net/g/72340/
Is Madochi going to be upset about this?
>>2080724
Madoka had her thing with Mami. Homura had her thing with the wraith. Madoka shat on Homura's wish for what she believed was right. Homura betrayed Madoka's wish for what she believed was right. I'd say they're completely even now.
>>2080724
I love wraith arc for this. It would be sad if majuuka dies against wraith.It is Homura who has to kill her to begin her corruption, and then kill Madokami, because she isn't real Madoka too.
>>2081784
Madowraith is an embodiment of an emotion. Even if the wraith dies, ai yo will return to Homu. They'll all return to Homura by the end because she has her soul gem back in Rebellion. She's already on a slope.
>It is Homura who has to kill her to begin her corruption and then kill Madokami, because she isn't real Madoka too.
Well killing the wraith is fine because it's a wraith. At the same time, this wraith isn't her enemy, so it will probably die against the giant wraith. The whole thing with Ultimate Madoka is different. Ultimate Madoka is the real Madoka. Homura knows that. She also knows that given the choice, Madoka will always make the courageous decision to sacrifice herself. That's why she knows she did something wrong by betraying Madoka's wish. It's the fate that Madoka suffers a fate worse than death as a concept that Homura has a problem with (nonexistentence, eternal loniliness, inability to interact with the world, taking on the suffering of all magical girls for all eternity) not the existence of the Law of Cycles itself. Hell, Ultimate Madoka is the only one who even understands Homura.
Good Morning, Good Night(mare) - Translated in English.
It's a Non-H book with five stories set in the rebellion time frame.
Enjoy!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B01Dn3kBTNnuclV6TWw0alpsUG8
>>2080390I'll be uploading scans for 2 and 6 some time next week. Originally I said I'd be doing that this week, but ended up too busy so I'll try and get them out next week instead.3, 4, and 5 will also be coming sometime in the near future after that.
>>2081850
Thanks!
>UROBUCHI: Guess I bullied Sayaka a bit too much (LOL). But then the reason why I do not feel that sorry for Sayaka is this thing, that I just do not feel that even if she hooked up with Kyosuke that girl would really be happy ever after. Most likely Kyosuke is a guy who will stand her up in dates and go to practice the violin, I think.
I'm not even a KyouSaya fan and I think this is great.
>>2082306
I'm pretty sure this interview was before Rebellion, and we saw Kyousuke would actually do exactly that.
>>2082472
Yep. It's in the "You are Not Alone" guidebook for the series. Shinbo kept asking why he didn't give her a good ending with Kyosuke.
>UROBUCHI: But also for Kyosuke, a man who could not notice that "Hm? this girl seems to have some feeling for me..." even after so much self-sacrifice from her is simply no good.
I like to believe Urobuchi and Ume tell Shinbo to take his hetgoggles off.
Post some more of this greatness
>>2082633
They can be cute, but Barbecue Sauce has nothing on Ketchup & Mustard
You know the threads dead when ACK doesn't even respond.
Kyoko would be cute with anyone, Sayaka has no idea how lucky she is to have her.
Why is there no Kiwi and Strawberry?
>>2082770
No question. Except for Madoka, Kyouko is the biggest player in PMMM. She just doesn't always focus on her girl-game, she gets hung up on other stuff sometimes.
Even Homura likes/respects her, while she can't stand Sayaka and sees Mami as a brittle bimbo.
>>2082844
>Except for Madoka
More like Madoka's the biggest tease in PMMM. I wouldn't be surprised if Kyouko got some action with Homura.
>A-10
>MadoHomu trap doujin
>MadoHomu yuri smell doujin
>MadoHomuDevilKami selfcest futa rape doujin
>Kami raping Moemura on Nico Douga doujin
>KyoSaya yuri guro doujin
Why, A-10?
>>2083211
>>KyoSaya yuri guro doujin
What?
I've never heard of that one. What's it's name please.
>>2083211And nothing of value was lost.
>>2083218
It's not out yet. I'll spoiler the pic, but these are some samples posted about 8 hours ago.
To balance that out have some diabetes.
Really like this pic
So can someone explain why Sayaka and Nagisa have access to their witch forms? Madoka's wish was 'to destroy all witches in the past present and future', thus rewriting the universe so no witch was ever born.
Also, is it canon that Nagisa took on the assignment because she felt bad about killing Mami? If this is true, than that also doesn't make sense. Because in Madoka's universe Nagisa never would have turned into Charlotte and thus never killed Mami.
>>2083844
Dude, Nagisa took on the mission to eat cheese. Did you even watch rebellion?
>>2083849
>In the cake song Mami says she is the cheese
>Nagisa said she came back to eat cheese one more time.....
Did they do this on purpose?
>>2083844
Sayaka and Nagisa got access to all their memories in all the different timelines after joining the Law of the Cycle. This is implied in Rebellion when it's evident that Sayaka knows of the existence of witches.
Also witches are just the accumulation of all the despair in their souls, their witches (in this case Oktavia and Charlotte) are just a part of their souls, the reason they can control them was never explained but I think it has to do with the fact that Sayaka has let go of what caused her to despair (unrequited love) and she is now more in control of it, therefore she can control the manifestation of her despair now.
Nagisa came back for cheese but in the production notes it says that she felt guilty about killing Mami and she constantly has nightmares over it.
>>2083844
I think witches are an intrinsic reflection of their true soul, a fundamental part which cannot actually be erased. The pain and suffering they feel and inflict, however, can be mitigated by Madokami's wish. Sayaka and Nagisa can access their witch selves because they are them, entirely, and by being in the LoC they're not truly bound to humanity any more.
>>2083882
As part of the Law of Cycles she could have seen the version of her that killed Mami.
Now the real question is, can Mami control her loli lust?
>>2083896
That's not a fucking question! We all know the younger they are the more Mami goes after them. She's a sexual predator who's real wish was the chance to molest younger girls instead of dying.
>>2083896
>tfw Kairakuen Umeka has a MamiNagi centeric doujinshi but no one has ever translated it
>>2083904
Man I wish that was animated.
>>2083844
On the witch thing, they never had a sequel planned, so you just have to go with it. They replaced the equivilent exchange and went the yinyang duality in order to justify the existence of a devil. I think the implication is that upon entering the law of cycles, your soul finds peace and you're memories are "joined" with Madoka in some sort of meguca instrumentality. So all the girls are capable of experiencing things in the way Madoka sees them across timelines. Rebellion has some issues that just require a willing suspension of disbelief and ability to just go with the flow.
>>2083882
>reason they can control them was never explained
I assumed it was because they yin-yanged.
>>2083891
Pretty much what I got. All meguca have their magical girl/witch, hope/despair, soul gem/grief seed duality. Madoka's wish seems to allow them to embrace that despair rather than be tormented by it. In theory, Madoka is the only being not to have had that duality as we saw her destroy it on screen and states that she is incapable of despairing. Unles they bring back Gretchen, it would appear Homura has taken on that role.
Here is a question I have: are the girls who enter the LoC only capable of seeing the things they experienced? In the same way that a video of regret plays when one becomes a witch, is the view given by the LoC to meguca a personalized viewing based on the memories of the beings?
I mention this because it seems that neither Nagisa or Sayaka really care for Homura. Their reasoning had nothing to do with her and were personal in nature (muh apple and muh cheese). The mission to save the person who made their salvation possible seemed like an afterthought. If they were limited to their own memories, than this is more acceptable because Nagisa doesn't know her and Sayaka only knows that they had a contentious relationship and that she caused Homura grief in the past.
![Movie 2.mkv_snapshot_00.26.23_[2016.07.02_12.14.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5GLMazW.jpg "Movie 2.mkv snapshot 00.26.23 [2016.07.02 12.14.13]")
>>2084069
I don't think Sayaka and Nagisa got to see the same things that Madoka actually saw as a goddess.
However I do think they assumed that the reason they have so many memories of the same events over the course of a month for 100 different times is because of Homura's time travelling, and Madoka must have explained to them what had happened during all that time since they undoubtedly would have had questions.
For example, I have an idea that Sayaka became conscious of everything she did in her witch form since she's now in full control of it. She saw the many different timelines (possibly) in which Kyouko tried her best to save her, and so she gained a new kind of respect for her. Pic related kind of reflects Kyouko's figure back to Oktavia's "eyes" which implies that Sayaka could watch her at the moment.
I don't think Sayaka nor Nagisa got to see anything beyond what their line of vision permitted her during those timelines.
And as to why they didn't make Homura their number one priority despite Madoka likely having told them all of Homura's struggles- I think that at least Sayaka did care, there's Sayaka trying to sympathise with Homura during two instances, she's not the bitchy and cold Sayaka that always treated Homura with distrust. Besides, having had one last chance to "come back" from heaven and live a normal life for a short period of time is what they deemed to be more important than anything involving Homura, Sayaka was never that close to Homura, and she had decided that there was someone else who she really wanted to be close with. As for Nagisa, I suppose she never really knew Homura so she has no reason to care for her beyond the fact that she was trying to help out Madoka.
>>2083844
>why Sayaka and Nagisa have access to their witch forms
Short Answer: It's something cool, like Stands from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
Long Answer: Witches are part of your being. As a magical girl, you have access to magic, which is the ability to 'paint' the world your way. Turning into a witch simply means that your magic has gone beyond your control and seek to turn this world into a grand stage where your triumphs and tragedies are acted, for all eternities, with no input from you.
Madoka's godhood means that your witch (and consequently, yourself) is killed by her before it can harm the world. She then absorbs your entire being, including your witch aspect of yourself into her. As your witch was killed, you regain control of it and slowly reincorporate it back into yourself. If by some circumstances you're redeployed to the world, you'll be able to control your witch like what happens with Sayaka and Nagisa.
[LevelXStudio (LevelXBrave)] Witches' Prerequisites (Puella Magi Madoka Magica) [English] [EHCOVE] (tentacle yuri. If you think of QB as a genderless alien, I guess it would be ok?)
http://exhentai.org/g/949164/fb9864aa99/
>>2084114
Yeah, I completely agree with that. Like I said, if they only got access to their memories and only have a general understanding of what happened, then their behaviour would makes total sense. Sayaka's sympathetic and but Naggisa still has no real view either way. And I assumed anything that happened as a witch was something they could see.
>>>2084139
>Short Answer: It's something cool, like Stands from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
Rebellion definitely has some fan service issues.
>>2084156
> If you think of QB as a genderless alien, I guess it would be ok?
But he is the patriarchy that takes away the innocence of young girls and forces them to go through the pain of womanhood and childbirth.
>>2084318
>some fan service issues.
Cry more, Rebellion has the perfect mix of fan service vs. crushing dreams.
>>2084589
I didn't say I had a problem with it. It's just had some fan service issues.
I know Rebellion is supposed to be a rebellion against everything about the franchise, but some cases of ironic shit posting are still shit posting.
That does have me wondering how the new project is going to be. The follow up is bound to be even more serious than the series.
>>2084318
>>2084664
I swear motherfuckers don't know what fanservice means anymore. Visual tricks the designers think are cool isn't fanservice. The MadoHomu stuff in Rebellion that redlines yuri meters: that's fanservice. All of the stuff where Wraithdoka is flirty with Homura or where Madoka says she loves Homura in coded or blatant terms in deuterocanonical material is fanservice. Nagisa existing in loli form to pair the spares is why she is a fanservice character over and above the fact she used to be Charlotte. Fanservice is why we are fucking here sis.
Don't get it twisted: throwing in visually cool shit that makes little sense is done by and for the creators, not the fans. Especially in an InuCurry, Shinbo or Butch Gen joint.
>>2084797
>The MadoHomu stuff in Rebellion that redlines yuri meters: that's fanservice.
MadoHomu fans might love it, but it doesn't mean that's fanservice. For example the boat scene certainly is fanservice, but the flower field scenes are essential to the story.
>throwing in visually cool shit that makes little sense is done by and for the creators, not the fans
The Homu vs Mami battle is pure fanservice though.
>>2084825
>The MadoHomu stuff in Rebellion that redlines yuri meters: that's fanservice.
>The yuri elements in Madoka are now fan service
I would really like to know which scenes you considered fan service, because Madoka sharing intimate moments with Homura is a pretty important plot point. The boat scene was a little much, but showing Madoka and Homura are so close in such a short span of time is stuff we saw in episode 10 and necessary for the twist to have any impact. It's the difference between Homura tragically losing the one person who loved and understood her as she fell from grace and Homura being an outright psychopath with little redeeming value.
>All of the stuff where Wraithdoka is flirty with Homura
That wasn't even fan service. Simply adding a sexual element to the plot does not make it fan service. Homura is angry and upset the whole time, not gushing over how cute or how much she wants to finger bang the wraith. It was meant to be uncomfortable. Fan service is meant to please fans with little contribution to the plot. The thing that sent Homura into a mental nose dive is not fan service.
>Don't get it twisted: throwing in visually cool shit that makes little sense is done by and for the creators, not the fans. Especially in an InuCurry, Shinbo or Butch Gen joint.
The whole idea of the girls fighting side by side, using combo attacks that were never referenced, and were more or less impossible to use in series IS fan service. There are multiple instances in the Homulilly fight that are just completely ridiculous.
>Nagisa
>Bringing Sayaka back from the dead, something Urobuchi said he would never do, is fine
>Bringing back Charlotte is unacceptable
She had a greater role in the plot than Mami and is now a member of the cast, just deal with it.
>>2084797
>>2084825
>>2085000
Rebellion's primary problem with fan service is that it's difficult to discern what is fan service and what is not.
Are the MadoHomu moments fan service if Homura has strong romantic feelings for Madoka? Is the boat scene inappropriate if it highlights that Homura is sexually attracted to Madoka?
Is Nagisa a fan service character if she serves a vital role in being the red herring for Homura to mistankenly come out against?
Are the battles really fan service if they're meant to be uncomfortable in comtrast to the series and show what the girls are capable of when they work together?
Is the KyouSaya scene a forced addition in order to appeal to fans or is it a logical resolution to a series story line?
Is Kyubey being a cute Pokemon fan service if it's a ruse?
And that finally comes to a head with Devil Homura: saving Madoka from her fate and living happily ever after as normal girls with no consequences is fan service and unattainable.
Rebellion's fan service issues aren't that they exist, it's that it's woven so deeply into the movie that it's difficult to seperate the plot.
>>2084825
I would even go as far to say the MamiHomu battle isn't really fan service. It's flashy as fuck and was mostly unnecessary, but what should have been a curb stomping quickly turned into a desperate battle for survival on Homura's end. Walking into the movie blind, I don't think anyone would have guessed Mami would outmatch and defeated Homura, requiring her to be saved by Sayaka of all people.
Rebellion is completely Homura's story. I like how idiots started to call everything fanservice. There are some of it but not that much as you think.
>>2085000
This battle isn't supposed to be serious. Homura isn't attacking anyone, other girls have realized that it's fake world and they safely can push themselve at their limit. Keep attention on clara dolls, they could rekt everyone there, but they simply were giving Homura more time.
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