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Alien Bodies edition

Imprisoned by the Celestis: >>71671991
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>>71701406
People who have read Alien Bodies, explain why you think the book is great.
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Bring Back Moffat
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>>71701191
this kills the hype
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I think Doctor Who should be treated as event television.

It's only on twelve weeks a year and it should have a gigantic budget.

All the episodes should have the production values of a movie, which means famous actors, good CGI, great writers,...
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>>71701482
it's just kinda neat, yknow
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>>71701560
>All the episodes should have the production values of a movie,
Good luck with that...
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Will Chibnall save use from terrible Moffat style of storytelling?

His Torchwood was more partial to terrible RTD style of storytelling but that's Torchwood with all it entails.
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>>71701482
Have you read it?
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>>71701482
>It breathed life into the stale EDAs by setting up an amazing all-encompassing future plotline, reintroducing the Time War to the universe
>It was a veritable treasure-trove of fantastic worldbuilding: Celestis, Shift, Enemy, Faction Paradox, etc
>The plot twist was genuinely unexpected
>It set precedent / inspiration for a number of well-regarded NuWho stories (Pandorica, Doctor's Wife, Name of the Doctor, Day of the Moon, End of Time)
>The whole thing is written in Larry's enjoyable prose
I don't really see a downside desu. Even Moffat has said it's his favorite Doctor Who story. Miles broke a LOT of ground in it, and I think the universe would be vastly different without it.
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If you had a TARDIS and the plot armour of The Doctor what would you do?
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I can't believe most of you cunts like and defend what Moffat's done with the show. I honestly feel Doctor Who has never been worse than it is now. Even fucking late 80s Who was more fun and memorable.

If Chibnall doesn't do a 180 and take it somewhere completely different, then the show will quite rightly die.
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>>71701800
Kidnap women from across time and space and make them my sex slaves. All while wearing cheap alien mask.
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Reminder Mina Anwar played Rani's mom in SJ.A.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bDGH3dKo90

This scene alone is better than the entirety of Moffat's era. You know I'm right.
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>>71701856
Very badly. Like someone in a school play.
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>>71701560
>It's only on twelve weeks a year
So longer than most British drama series then.

What is it with Doctor Who fans and seeing the BBC as the Doctor Who Company? You're asking them to basically not put money into anything else, just so the weird kids' show with the funny aliens can acquire the trappings of Hollywood.
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>>71701560
okay moffat
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series 9 ost when?
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>>71701829
>Even fucking late 80s Who was more fun and memorable.
Do you mean late 80s as in McCoy's final two seasons, one of the best periods the show has ever had? Because that's quite the high bar to clear.
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>>71701884
What else can they do though? Top Gear's fucked. Nobody overseas gives a shit about Eastenders. Other than old 90s sitcoms and David Attenborough, Doctor Who's their only thing selling globally.
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>>71701915
yeah wtf I want the heaven sent tracks
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>>71702009
Once it's fully privatised they will just be a brand who commissions things from outside companies.
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>>71702018
Should be on the DotD soundtrack.
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Reminder Jennifer Hennessy played a role in Gridlock.
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>>71702009
The attenborough stuff is going to a private company already m8
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>>71702109
wot?
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>>71702175
The "breaking the wall" song was from DotD.
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>>71701974
>the last two seasons of a severely underbudgeted, late 80s BBC sci-fi that the higher ups hated is too high a bar for Moffat to clear

What

I can't even begin to describe what I think is wrong with the show now, because pretty much everything is. I hate every second of it. Every element of it is wrong.

Creative, talented people in the Classic era did far more than Moffat ever did, on a shoe-sting budget. The problem isn't the money, it's the writers.

It's all utter shit. No style, no character. No Douglas Adamsian charm. Nothing new. Nothing fun. Only awful characters and mind-numbing plots.
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>>71702294
yeah but its a different and better rendition in heaven sent
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>>71702369
>Douglas Adamsian charm
>Thinks season 17 is better than the modern show
>Horns of Nimon is somehow better than Heaven Sent
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Wow she's just making shit up now, Lenora Crichlow isn't on the picture.

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/750701764626804736
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>>71702369
YA (teen) fiction has killed it. Fanfic.
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>>71702463
It's funnier than that because she's slightly racist in her mistake.
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>>71702456
Heaven Sent was one of the wort episodes in years.
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>>71702561
Yeah, wort tastes great. Wort episodes are like the evolution of GOAT episodes.
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>>71702009
You're not wrong that the death of Top Gear puts more pressure on Doctor Who, but they still might not be completely confident in putting all their eggs in Doctor Who's basket.
Doctor Who is trapped in the incredibly weird space between 'award-winning fantasy drama' and 'accessible episodic family show' and it's a bugger of a thing to get right. Not to suggest that the current writing team doesn't need a major injection of new blood, but if you throw an acclaimed writer like Neil Gaiman at it he might either produce The Doctor's Wife or Nightmare in Silver. And on the production/casting side, there's a question of who is actually interested in working on it in the first place? And how much money can you throw at them before you've basically spent everyone's TV license?
I salivate as much as anyone at the idea of Doctor Who as the biggest and best thing on television, but there are sincere obstacles in the way.
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>>71702643
>Doctor Who has a shit budget and isn't watched by hundred million of people throughout the world
>manages to be better than Game of Thrones
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>>71702369
>What
I'm telling you that the writing in McCoy's final two seasons is absolutely excellent, because of the creative, talented writers behind it, so I don't know why you bring up 'severely underbudgeted' or any of that other shite you just agreed is irrelevant.

>I can't even begin to describe what I think is wrong with the show now, because pretty much everything is. I hate every second of it. Every element of it is wrong.
That's a very abstract way of saying the problem is you.
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>>71702697
Everything is better than Game of Thrones. Somewhere in Nigeria ten-year-old retarded boy is filming himself throwing shit at dogs on a camera he stole from Red Cross PR team and it's still better than Game of Thrones.
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>>71702697
I hate GoT but this is obviously shitty bait.
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>>71702765
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>>71702765
I don't see why the opinion of ADHD/senile/retarded folk is relevant to the discussion
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>>71702788
Why are you here then?

REKT
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>>71702770
I haven't seen a single Heaven Sent-tier episode in all of Game of Thrones' series. Go back to your general monganon. Oh wait there isn't one because you're toxic.
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>>71702828
At least try.
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>>71702828
No emotion!
Hear that lads? No emotion!
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>>71702828
Was there even a try?
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>>71702770
>I hate GoT
>but it's better than DW
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>>71702770
Bait for who? Do you see any defensive GoT fans in here?
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>>71702097
>Once it's fully privatised
My dear fellow, I don't want *money*.
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>>71702901
Yeah, the majority of /got/ admits the show isn't as good as it used to be and will readily agree to any criticism. You can't bait a self-hating group. S'like baiting Glee fans a few years ago.
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>>71702828
Go away RTD your episodes fucking sucked
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So I just started watching Doctor Who again a few weeks ago, and I have to say that I'm loving Capaldi, but I am curious as to what /who/ thinks of Danny Pink? Personally I thought he was the worst recurring character in the season, he was so personality-less and mild, and he mumbled all of his lines. I never really bought that Clara loved him. What do you guys think?
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>>71702860
>>71702843
>>71702852
Yeah I was just bored and baiting. Sorry bros.
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>>71702993
Danny was a shit character
glad he died
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>>71702993
Yeah pretty much agreed. The actor playing him didn't bring a lot of charisma or presence compared to Capaldi or Coleman, and the points at which we should have started to like him weren't handled with the finesse they needed on the writing/direction front.
It's a shame because otherwise his character arc in the finale could have been quite decent.
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>>71702993
Danny sucks, but he was an important building black to make sure Clara sucked less.
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>>71702369
Go back to Planet Mondas.
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>>71702993
The actor was bad, he sucked the life out of any scene he was in and had no chemistry with Jenna. Especially compared to Capaldi/Jenna who worked well together. Also S9 is better btw.
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>>71703071
I was mildly disappointed in the finale. The concept of "Hell" or the afterlife that they did could have been a cool story to investigate on its own, but then they had to go and throw the Master in (and I think she did a good job - but probably should have been saved for something later) and then cybermen, and UNIT, and it was all too much.

>>71703095
I actually felt he weighed her down. I never believed that she really loved him even an eighth as much as she loved travelling with the Doctor.
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>>71703146
I've watched S9 up to the Zygon episodes, which I haven't started yet. S9 is really good so far, but I can't bring myself to watch the two-parter with that UNIT woman with the glasses, she's the most annoying, tumblr character ever.
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>>71703285
You mean her.
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>>71703285
The zygon episodes were good and Osgood wasn't that bad in it. Plus you'd miss out on the GOAT 12 speech.
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>>71703285
Would you take the risk to miss out on her >>71703345 ?
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>>71703345
No, her.

>>71703400
I'll have to give it a try then. Capaldi BTFO Matt Smith for me
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>>71703400
The only one who didn't like it was Jack Graham, and it was only because he couldn't comprehend the concept of negotiations.
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>>71703228
>The concept of "Hell" or the afterlife that they did could have been a cool story to investigate on its own
I'm not sure they'd get away with it if they did a whole story about that concept, the whole "don't cremate me!" thing is more existentially fucked up than Doctor Who usually goes (IIRC it got like 124 complaints, but the BBC told them to fuck off because it was just part of Missy's scam and didn't actually have any implications for kid viewers' dead relatives).
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>>71703400
>GOAT
>This is war! Stop! It's terrible!
>5 seconds later
>You call this a war? This isn't a war!
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Everyone's a bit gay inside.
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>>71703447
But that was what made it so cool - it was something Who hadn't really done before, and the implications of such a shitty afterlife was interesting to think about. They could have had the Doctor end the whole thing, but it would've been interesting to focus on it. Instead they fell back to the easy route of "Doctor must save the world from ____"
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>>71703285
Just do it. At the end of the day, you are upset about a plain woman who wears glasses, has an inhaler and likes the Doctor. She doesn't have any wacky tumblr lines, she doesn't ship the Doctor with the Master, she doesn't dress up as the TARDIS, she doesn't pester him for an autograph. The hate of her is drastically overblown.
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>>71703470
He was comparing it to the time war in the last quote.
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I really do like Doctor Who a lot.
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>>71703536
Exactly. His point was this thing is terrible and then literally tells them it's insignificant by comparison. "Don't do something cause it's bad, although it isn't really THAT bad, it's actually not bad at all. Let me tell you about some really bad shit I've done." Doesn't exactly help his point and Bonnie shouldn't have any reason to stop.
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>>71703695
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>>71703781
Jesus, Tennant is just a hotter Mr. Bean.
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Why is regeneration so shitty? I know it shouldn't be looked at too seriously as it's just a concept that was created to allow new actors take the role of The Doctor but still it's so weird to think that a highly intelligent race like the Timelords can have worst survival capabilities then Jack and Me who both were just happy accidents
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>>71703821
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>>71703889
>Timelords can have worst survival capabilities
What do you mean?
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>>71703931
Typo, should say "worse survival capabilities than".
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>>71703436
The Zygon 2 parter is pretty good (I don't mind Osgood tho).

Gr8 performances from both Capaldi and Coleman, specially in the 2nd part.
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>>71703889
"Why is RTD and Moffat's writing of regeneration so shitty?", is a better question.
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>>71703897
>cropping skills
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>tfw L.M. Myles ISN'T Lawrence Miles
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>>71703931
I got these from the tardis wiki page for regeneration, I left a few out but:
>stabbing/destroying both of their hearts
>old age
>headshot
>serious blood loss
I could understand something like complete destruction of the body maybe but something like blood loss is a bit weird for such amazing being to be able to die by.
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>>71704421
very true. LM Miles has negative talent for writing. utter shit.
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>>71704425
beings*
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Capaldi and Pearl are staying for Series 11. Chibnall doesn't feel comfortable starting completely fresh and convinced them both to stick around for one more.
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>>71704723
Thanks for that completely credible information, I totally believe it.
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>>71704754
Will be announced soon!
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>>71702294
It is? What scene?
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>>71704421
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>>71704830

It's weird that the saucer has an entire room dedicated to discourse with other species and even has an atmosphere mimicking device when nowadays Daleks are just straight killing machines with no capacity for diplomacy of any kind.
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>>71704776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhXdjUNq-Qs

The part at 2:20 but its a different version in Heaven Sent and I'm not even sure if that got used in DOTD because they used mostly old music in the actual episode for some reason.
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>>71704873
What does this barely visible picture mean?
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>>71702697
>manages to be better than Game of Thrones
Let's not go overboard.
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>>71703095
>Danny sucks, but he was an important building black
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>>71705098
He was black and he built wells
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>>71705140
>Daleks never actually die from natural causes
>But they still have to eat
what?
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>>71705025
That was one of the few parts that actually did make it into DotD.

Honestly I'm sort of glad whoever sound mixed it didn't go with most of Gold's intended compositions for scenes. There are bits on that soundtrack that wouldn't have fit the corresponding bit of the episode at all.
For example, the music they reused for the Curator scene is melancholy and grand but subdued. Whereas the actual "Song for Four" in the soundtrack is, while not unpleasant, this plinky plonky piano guitar thing (they ended up using it nicely in the 'same sonic, different case' scene) that would have just been way too on-the-nose and "feel emotions now!" for Tom Baker's performance.
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>>71705168
>How long does it take to travel from Skaro to Earth?
>By the comparatively slow earth type rockets it would take almost two years
Dude wut? Is Skaro supposed to be in the Solar System?

Also
>Over nine thousand different components
>mfw
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>>71705216
>>71705394
All from the 1965 Dalek Book. The only canon you need.
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Does anyone else think The Two Masters is inspired by Faction Paradox? The Cult of the Heretic seem very similar to the Faction, especially how they induct members of lesser races. When "Time Lord biodata" gets mentioned, it's quite clearly in the Larry Miles sense of being someone's 4D essence, and the characters even have a conversation about the grandfather paradox at one point.
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>>71704425
it really pisses me off that the tardis wikia never cares to mention the exact context of the examples they describe
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>>71705394
I think in the Dalek-expanded-universe from the 60s Skaro was meant to be a wandering planet and one day it just kind of popped up in our solar system.
classic 60s-scifi.
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>>71705481
The tardis wiki is a mess. The way wookiepeedia had tabs for canon and legends I think they should do something silimiar to split up TV, Audios, Books etc.
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>>71705394
In the 60s comics Skaro IS an outer planet in the Solar System
In "The Curse of the Daleks" the space ship 'passes by' Skaro on the way to Earth.
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>>71705465
Haven't heard it yet, but I wouldn't be surprised. IDK why they don't just adapt Alien Bodies with McGann already, it'd sell like hotcakes considering the prices the book goes for (and lack of a pirate version with decent formatting)
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>>71704425
Regeneration doesn't create new matter. It scrambles the matter already there, if the blood is gone it can't exactly be fixed by regeneration.
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>>71705394
The planet Vulcan seen in The Power of the Daleks is also in the Solar System, inside the orbit of Mercury.
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>>71705675
only if you think regeneration is purely a biological process and only if you think TIme Lords only exist in 3 dimensions.
Otherwise, the process may be far more complex and interesting.
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>>71705642
Because doing that would mean having to talk to Miles about how to adapt it, and I don't think anybody at BF is willing to talk to Miles.
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>>71705675
So what was 10 grow his hand back and his hand growing his 10 back then mr. smarty pants?
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>>71705555
yeah, that's what I've been thinking too. No idea if it's possible in terms of formatting but in my opinion for each article there should be two big tabs, one for informations out of Doctor Who stories and one for informations from non-doctor-who stories (torchwood and other spinoffs for example), and these in turn would have undertabs that separate the informations again by publisher. After all, a DWM-comic-strip is much more likely to reference an older DWM-comic-story than it is to reference a, say, Big Finish audio. I find it hard to describe, I might doodle it down later.
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Time for a GOAT Dalek story.
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>>71705970
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>>71705970
>the doctor has a year meter in the tardis
cute
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>>71706073
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>>71702993
I really liked him and I thought he played Awkward really well in his first few scenes with Jenna.

/who./ truly hates him though
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>>71705720
>"J" is the forbidden letter of the Dalek language.
JUST
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>>71706104
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>>71706104
he really didn't think that through, did he?
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>>71705675
I dont know there:regeneration seems to have the ability to do more than shake the cells up, I think it also reconfigures those cells as well, not in a biological way, but in a temporal way:the 3rd and 10th doctors both died of radiation poisoning, but the expulsion of said radiation by way of escaping the cells during a regeneration would have killed the brig and sarah jane and left the tardis irradiated. I say temporal because it seems theres just no where for it to go spacially. The remaining heart accesses the time vortex and overbeats itself.

In which case, if the doctor lost all his blood he could still regenerate, but i think it explains why the effect is the way it is now(the time vortex). It also explainsthat 8th doctor novel plot when he lost a heart and couldnt regenerate
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>>71705755
Go to bed Tat

>>71705758
Then how did this happen?

https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-adolescence-of-time-85
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>>71702993
He was a boring fellow taking screentime away from fun stuff.

The ultimate crime.
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>>71705970
Why is John thrusting his crotch at his grandfather?
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>>71706043
Reminds me of an image macro I saw of this saying something like "Day 47: They still believe I am a Dalek."
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>>71705764
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>>71706042
the yearometer is mentioned in the very first Doctor Who TV serial.
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>>71706221
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>>71706169
Suck my balls, Phil.
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>>71706249
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>>71706042
Why is that 'cute', Cloister?
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>>71706284
>yfw 12 remembered this adventure and that's why he stole Davros chair
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>>71706249
the Doctor should carry guns more often with him. Would save a lot of time
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>>71705675
By that logic the Doctor should never be able to increase his body mass through regeneration, which he has.
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>>71706236
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>>71706344
it makes sense in this situation as I cannot see any passive way out of it.
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my cats-detecting-sense is tingling...
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>>71706364
We never measured his mass. Maybe he finish regeneration hollow and then grow internal organs as he eats.
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>>71706438
your autism is triggering
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>>71706236
BAZINGA
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>>71706439
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>>71706236
Reminder that Daleks write poetry.
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>>71706464
detection confirmed
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>>71705940
>>71705970
>>71706002
>>71706043
>>71706073
>>71706104
I can't imagine any nuwho Doctors doing something like this
>9 would have a PTSD flashback and refuse to get in then go up to a dalek, rip out its laser and then proceed to start attacking every dalek around him with it
>10 would get get really emotional and start talking about how there is another way
>11 would do one of his signature mood changes where he goes from really happy to really emo and starts yelling a lot about how he will never stoop so low as to pretend to be a dalek
>12 would start ranting about how daleks are evil and by extension their appearance is evil which by another extension would make him evil by just acting like one
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The first issue of the 5-part multi-Doctor comic series dealing with Rassilon post-Hell Bent is out today
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>>71706479
oh look one of cats' face pics he always uses
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>>71706543
I'm not sure where you're getting most of this. I can see 9 or 10 having the PTSD but climbing inside an empty Dalek case would be great fun, 12 has almost done the same thing by throwing Davros out of his chair.
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>>71706558
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>>71706605
cats is reeeeing again
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>>71706626
I remember this meme. I love it. Turkish potato man vs monganon. I'm betting on potato.
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>>71706619
this really annoys me as Davros chair was supposed to be a life support system for his horrifically damaged and mutated body
now it's a bloody wheel chair it makes no sense
he'd be better with robot legs if it is simply about mobility
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>>71706800
It was just banter m8
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>>71704723
Wrong.
If you want further proof, Chibnall is writing episode 9 of this upcoming series - and that will legitimately be revealed soon.
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>>71706800
I'm sure it still is a life support, but he probably has a temporary backup system if he ever gets ripped out.
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>>71706887
sure, Steven
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>>71706876
He's not writing anything and Peter and Pearl are staying. Will be announced soon buddy.
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>>71706876
Filming for that isn't starting until December at the earliest m8 but nice b8.
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>>71706552
Anyone want me to storytime this? About 20 pages and you can enjoy some of the JUST-erific art.
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>>71706941
tell us your name mate so we can congratulate you when it happens
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>>71706972
Go ahead.
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>>71706943
Series 10 started weeks ago.
>>71706941
Not true
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>>71706972
yeah
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>>71706972
do it
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>>71706800
>ear stories
>canon
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>>71706990
Yeah right and they announce all the writers months before filming for these episodes actually starts because NOTHING CAN HAPPEN. Bad b8 now. You know nothing.
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>>71706974
Kevin
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>>71707041
I don't understand any of that. What do you mean? I am talking about Genesis of the Daleks.
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Just a couple of introductory pages to kick us off...
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>>71707136
Let me know if the images are too big/etc, I will re-export.
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>>71707168
those 'companions' are a fucking joke, right??
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>>71707168
Jackie hasn't aged well.
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>>71707055
Louise Fox is writing a script for series 10. The 2016 Xmas is co-written between Moffat/Neil Gaiman. The terileptils are returning. The sea devil rumour isn't true. Screenshot this and post it after S10 airs
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>>71707168
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>>71707168
now I've seen this page please don't bother
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>>71707193
Calm down anon. It's only a comic.
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>>71707168
oh yeah, that's the one with the ninth Doctor, isn't it? Interesting to see his and 10's reaction to the living time lords.
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>>71707224

>>71707232
Too late, you opened Pandora's Box
It gets worse
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>>71707237
a really bloody awful comic
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>>71707193
I know, right? whose idea was it to include a companion named Jack and a companion named Jackie? that's just unnecessary confusing. And Rose? seriously? titanic much?
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>>71707168
>Kate Bush for her invaluable assistance
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>>71707264
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>>71707264
wow I've hated the Titan and IDW comics before but christ on a bike this looks like woeful stuff
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>>71707267
Okay.
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>>71707302
you alright m8
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>>71707302
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>>71707342
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>>71707389
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>>71707389
So that brings the Doctor's number of wives up to what, five?
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>>71707389
THIS DIALOGUE IS PHUCKING ATROCIOUS AND CRINGE WORTHY.

SACK THE TALENTLESS HACK WHO WROTE THIS SCRIPT.

THE ART IS SHITE TOO.

I FEEL SICK.
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>>71707429
And now for everyone's favourite Doctor
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>>71707475
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I like Stereotypical Black Girl! She's awesome!

I wonder if Stereotypical Asian Girl is a computer whizz. I hope so!
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>>71707500
More aliens! More!
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>>71707475
Paul McGann?!?
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Honestly this is exactly what fanfic is often like. A cut and paste job of ideas from other stories.
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>>71707545
Guess who?
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>>71707587
So NuWho is fanfiction?
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>>71707500
>greatest shop in the galaxy
I've heard that before, haven't I?
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>>71707467
calm down Ian you'll have another stroke mate

you are quite right though
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>>71707587
>Honestly this is exactly what Doctor Who is often like. A cut and paste job of ideas from other stories.
ftfy
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>>71707598
Double page spread lads.

Classic 9.
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>>71707603
a lot of it really is, m8
RTD nicked many ideas from the books/audios/comics for a start
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>>71707603
All Doctor Who since about 1980 has been fanfiction.
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>>71707655
Some prime Eccles faces in here, don't miss.
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I like Capaldi's performances but I generally don't get the sense of public enthusiasm that existed with Eccleston, Tennant (obviously) or Smith.

Some of us on here sneer at awards like the NTAs but the fact that he's been snubbed two years in a row making him the first Doctor since the show's return to miss out on an acting nod is, imo, telling. Considering how excited and/or intrigued fans [I]and[/I] casuals were when he was announced 3 years ago I put the blame not on his age but a characterization in series 8 that wasn't audience friendly and stories that haven't connected if the lower AIs are anything to go by.
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>>71707655
some of the likenesses here are truly terrible
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>>71707679
U chimes of midnite bruh?
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>>71707695
This is surely an event with consequences for the story
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>>71707603
of course it is. Have you actually taken a look at moffat once?
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>>71707679
since 2005, yes
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>>71707718
Big Finish is the most fanfic Who of all.
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>>71707720
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I am genuinely glad someone is posting this
it is far worse than even I imagined it would be
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>>71707720
She should have been killed on sight after what she did. Sontarans equally are a joke now.
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>>71707750
>Ugh! Nasty!
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>>71707759
he looks more like a Sontaran than the Sontaran drawings
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https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/750753720393138176

New Nardole costume
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>>71707795
What was that about fanfiction?
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>>71707795
tears running down my face at the cringeworthy artwork
this is good laughs
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>>71707707
I disagree. I think its a natural rise and fall for the show:coming off an anniversary year, a regeneration and a big year expansion for doctor who, its very natural for series 8, which was the first unbroken season in 3 or 4 years, to create a sense of fatigue to the audience in things Who related. It isn't that doctor who sucked in that time, but that the hype had a natural slow down to it. Series 10 and whithouse showrunning will do a lot to curb the freefall, but capaldi is the unfortunate victim here for series 8
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>>71707830
No its not.
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>>71707840
In b4 it's revealed it's Vastra
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>>71707840
>Cyberlurians

Holy fuck.

Why.
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>>71707840
deep lore
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>>71707864
>whithouse showrunning
u wot
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>>71707873
idea stolen from the far superior The Cybermen comic from DWM years ago
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>>71707882
UH OH!

The storyboarding is as bad as the art
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>>71707910
Magic door
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>>71707840
>tfw they won't do cybervoords because the last crossover already did the voords
why even worldshape
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>>71707707
so you are Thunderball, eh?
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>>71707941
And now to end our evening's tale, the big reveal!

Thanks for reading, if you enjoyed it I will be sure to report back with the remaining issues. I nabbed the download link from /co/'s downloads thread if anyone's wondering
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>>71707882

Well that explains how Ohila got to Gallifrey in Hell Bent.

>they had a door
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>>71707941
look at that last panel
that's meant to be the 12th Doctor
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>>71707707
Agreed. Capaldi's Doctor has been a let down imo. Not his fault at all though
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>>71708004

Biggest disappointment.
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>>71707982
jesus christ this is epically shit
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>>71707982
kek and people thought moffat ruined rassilon
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It's a good job these comics aren't canon isn't it
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>>71707864
Plus the shows been on for 10 years now.
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>>71708043
>>71708070
I am shaking with laughter at how bad this is
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>>71707999
The only Doctor in this comic that seems to be in acting correctly is 11 and possibly 9, I don't remember 9 enough to know if so.
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>>71708156
i am more talking about the artwork and how no-one looks like the real people or is a clever charicature capturing the character in an artistic way.
it's just bad
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>>71708150
he's old and ugly
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>There are people in the multiverse that believe that series 8 wasn't the best
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>>71708311
>implying series 9 wasn't objectively better
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>>71708150
Just not a fan of his characterization - or actually the lack of it. He's too inconsistent, and it's entirely the writing's fault.

I liked what they were initially going for in Series 8 with him being unlikable and cantankerous. I appreciate that perhaps the younger and more general audience weren't a fan of this, but they could've made it work if they'd done it for a little while longer.
I feel as though it didn't work because, if you have an unlikable Doctor, you should have a likable/fun companion to balance it out. It makes the Doctor less relatable (as he should be), and the companion more relatable. Clara didn't offer this due to her Mary Sue status and horrible whingy, selfish, cocksure 'personality'. In fact she was more unlikable than 12 when he was at his most dickish.

The writers realised this when it was too late, and as a consequence totally changed his character literally overnight in the hope that the kids would like him again. The S8 Doctor and S9 Doctor may as well be totally different incarnations. As a result, it's almost impossible to attribute a consistent character trait to 12, whereas it isn't with all the other Doctors. Because of Clara's importance, he's also felt like a backbencher through most of his era so far, but I'm hoping this changes when the new companion is introduced
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>>71708537
if you just saw this image would you be able to identify the character

no
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>>71708575
Something about the hair is oddly recognisable.
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>>71708498
He had development throughout S8. It didn't just happen. It'd be boring if he stayed exactly the same anyways.
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>>71708537
>>71708575
Cosplay anon?
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>>71708575
I'm gonna hazard a guess at Clara.
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>>71708498
>The writers realised this when it was too late, and as a consequence totally changed his character literally overnight in the hope that the kids would like him again. The S8 Doctor and S9 Doctor may as well be totally different incarnations. As a result, it's almost impossible to attribute a consistent character trait to 12, whereas it isn't with all the other Doctors.
Hate this emme.
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>>71708674
It did just happen, he had his realization moment in the graveyard, became "nice", then was grumpy again in Last Christmas until he started riding a sleigh.
Then when we saw him next, he was memeing on the guitar. Then after that he was grumpy again. Then he was memeing. Then he was grumpy with the zygons. Then he was sad when Clara died. Then he got angry. Then he forgot Clara. Then he was grumpy in THoRS, and then he wasn't.

He's fucking bipolar.
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>>71708763
Why, because it's true?

Sharp/sophisticated Doctor > Hoodie meme man
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>>71708763
but it's fairly true
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>>71708844
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>>71708807
>character has different emotions in different scenes
Yep, terrible writing there.

>he was memeing on the guitar.
Please just stop.
>>
Our wikia's “Representation Act of 1776” article just got a whole lot more images to use.

Seriously, why did 12 look like Tommy Lee Jones in some panels?
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>>71708807
>then was grumpy again in Last Christmas until he started riding a sleigh.
Then when we saw him next, he was memeing on the guitar. Then after that he was grumpy again. Then he was memeing. Then he was grumpy with the zygons. Then he was sad when Clara died. Then he got angry.
Yeah this isn't a problem with the episodes, you're just being a dipshit.
>>
>>71708807
grand revelation, people's emotions are not static, somebody call the news. Are you seriously complaining that the new Doctor is complex enough to not be summarized in a single sentence like the others ala "the wacky professor" and "the guy who always has amnesia"? Do you want him to have a catchphrase too?
>>
>>71708844
He's far better in S9. S8 was just Capaldi playing The Doctor.
>>
>people complain about series 9 being no fun allowed
>whenever something fun happens they dismiss it as a meme
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>>71708961
Because they made a big showcase in Series 8 of how this new Doctor is emotionally dead, selfish and doesn't care about human life. (Deep Breath, Into the Dalek, Time Heist, Kill the Moon, Mummy, Dark Water). This Doctor allegedly doesn't care when people die, seeing as he literally allowed the dude to die in Into the Dalek to further his own agenda.

He also spent most of his era deriding Clara's appearance.

Clara is a vain, vindictive, horrible and selfish know it all. They made a huge deal out of showing us that 12 hates those sort of people.
So why did he like Clara so much? She is the epitome of everything we are shown he loathes, yet his actions contradict that.
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at least it wasn't as bad as this
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>>71708575
So who is it supposed to be?
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>>71709053
He's not a complex character though. He literally has two emotions:
>Dark and moody
>WAHEEY look at me and my guitar!!

This is literally symptomatic of bipolar disorder.
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>>71709236
now that's what I call three bags full
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>>71709042
No one said it was a problem with the episodes, the writers clearly can't decide what they want 12 to be, and as a result are wasting a great actor.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNSeJIFzt9I

>Top 10 Actresses Who Could Play Doctor Who
>Actresses
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>>71709487
At least none of them are black. At least I'm hoping not. I didn't actually watch the video.
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>>71709236
maybe the character is bipolar
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>>71709580
It's the only logical explanation
>>71709550
Hello again Gareth
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This isn't directly Doctor Who related but does anyone know where the fuck I can watch this? I wanted to go through all of RTD's past work but I've been looking for this show for hours and it just doesn't seem to exist anywhere on the internet, legally or otherwise.
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>>71709749
the DVD is on Ebay for £9, new condition.
Can't find it on any streaming sites
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>Nick Cave will never play an almost nihilistic Doctor that is starting to doubt whether or not him saving people even matters in the end
>>
hope the b8 about George Rainsford being the next doctor is true. he's good and acts Doctorish in all of his roles.
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>>71709853
>implying I live in the UK
For me it's $37 with """""free shipping"""""
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>>71709487
That is the point of the video, yes.
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>>71709699
Hello again, cuck.
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>>71709550
I know you're meming but a black Doctor would actually be fine. The color of the Doctor's skin doesn't matter, especially since his actual race is alien anyway, but giving him a sex change introduces all sorts of problems.
>>
Thread is dead.

12 is shit. A female Master was a fucking stupid move. Doctor Who is dead and can't be saved.
Prove me wrong.
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>>71710288
Michelle Gomez is the GOAT Master.
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>>71710274
I'd rather a white woman than a black man.
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>>71710274
Problems are just opportunities in disguise.
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>>71710346
It's a Slippery Slope
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>>71710346
Why? There are loads of black actors that could play the Doctor
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>>71710420
>Why?
>>
Guys.
Series 5 have always been my favourite.
It brought a fresh air, good scripts, good characters, great Doctor, who was 100% Doctorish.
Show was dead from the second part of series 6 from my perspective, right when Moffat somehow killed the spirit of this show. Even Matt somehow started to feel awkward.
Anyone agree?
>>
>>71710420
And there are loads of white actresses who could do the same. Really though I think he should always be a white man but I know that with the way the show and the media in general are headed, it won't be long before we get a coloured or female Doctor.
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>>71710500
Agreed,
>Moffat somehow killed the spirit of this show
He Americanized it. It lost its quaintness.
>>
>>71710500
No, I don't think the show is dead.
>>
>>71710500
>somehow
>the spirit
Notice how you're having trouble talking about this in specific or even analytical terms? That should be a red flag for bullshit.
>>
>>71710590
don't forget
>'Doctorish'
>good, great
>awkward
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>>71710500
A Good Man Goes to War is certainly the point it died for me and became utter crap
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>>71710590
nah mate he's perfectly clear there
>>
New thread
>>71710768
>>71710768
>>71710768
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>>71710624
words cannot describe how hard I hate the word doctorish. just how did it get into such common use?
>>
Has Chibnall written an ep for s10?

Know he's busy on Broadchurch 3, but just seems a bit odd to me if he hasn't.
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>>71710811
why would he?
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>>71707750
>getting caught was part of his plan
>>
Somebody start a proper new thread please
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>>71710900
'no'
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>>71710341
>GOAT Master
>Better Master than even the Canon Masters.

Hows it feel that Fanfic Who can't even cast The Master right?
>>
>>71711436
>big finish
>canon
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