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>mfw the North chooses a motherless bastard born in the south over the trueborn daughter of Ned and Catelyn Stark born in Winterfell
>>71476900
Azor Jon
jonautists getting more defensive by the day as they realize:
>jon is a shit commander
>littlefinger is the only reason hes still alive
>both sansafags and branfags are right that his crowning was idiotic fanservice that made no sense on any level
>his "claim" to the iron throne means jack shit when danaerys' army could blow him the fuck out instantly
>he didnt avenge the red wedding
>dany fits the description of azor ahai/tptwp far better than he ever will
>hes not special or unique for being resurrected and it was literally nothing but a plot device to get him out of the nights watch
>hes not special for killing a white walker, literally a fat kid and a scrawny girl did the same with a fraction of the effort
Jon Ahai
>>71479509
> tfw the North doesn't remember a lot really
ESSENTIAL Preston viewing
I know not many of you watch his 1000 Worlds series but some of them have invaluable commentary for certain themes in ASOIAF
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FnX9lOcukU4
>>71479509
>mfw Jon and Sansa know Bran is alive but they don't mention it to anyone.
Azor Toph
>>71479601
thanks anon
>>71479621
Is Bran the Toph of ASOIAF?
Azor Imp
>>71479613
They are Players® in the Game of Thrones™
>>71479613
They know he got out of Winterfell, they know he crossed the Wall, haven't heard shit since, why would they think Bran's still alive and that they should wait around and rule as regents or something?
Azor Gendry
What will become of House Baratheon?
>>71479621
gross
>>71479519
THE KING IN THE NORTH!!
>>71479509
Sansa btfo, you had your chance and you married and almost bred with Ramsay.
Azor Mountain
>>71479509
It's a big deal that she's a girl. For the lords, it's worse than all of that.
>everyone is talking about the final showdown between good and evil where humans and dragons and direwolves will fight against white walkers and the dead and krakens and mermen what have you
>George explicitly spoke against the final battle trope and criticized Tolkien for using and making it so black and white
>it will happen in the show anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kQrT8S2Mrw
>>71479645
disabled but still indisputably more based than anyone else?
then yes
Reposting
Jon finding out he's Rhaegar and Lyanna's kid is gonna send him into depression.
Just like that he wouldn't be King anymore, he wouldn't really be a member of House Stark anymore, he wouldn't even be Jon Snow anymore cause both those names are false, he'd just be Jaehaerys, cause unless his father had publicly acknowledged him and formally brought him into his House, Jaehaerys can't get a bastard name. He'd blame himself now for all the problems Ned and Cat and by extension Salsa had about him.
How much would the North or Vale listen to the son of the man who got Ned's brother, sister and father killed?
Hope for drama's sake he decides to leave Winterfell and head South or something cause he really has no home, no name and no real family, and even leaves Longclaw behind in shame so Lady Mormont can have it back.
>>71479509
bran is being manipulated by himself from various points in time./
>>71479613
How do they know? Does anyone else?
Its been so long I cant remember
>>71479533
>>dany fits the description of azor ahai/tptwp far better than he ever will
just no don't even try that shit
>>71479689
>Cersei rules the south
>Dany rules the east
>Lyanna Mormont orders everyone around
>"But Sansa can't become Lady of Winterfell that's just insane"
>>71479689
Being a bastard is canonically worse than being a girl in terms of primogeniture. Crowning him king while using the line "knows no king but the king whos name is stark" is fucking retarded.
>>71479705
But on the other hand he can marry Sansa/Arya and won't have to break up Bran and Meera.
>>71479509
But Lady Sandra is a Bolton
>>71479533
>>hes not special or unique for being resurrected and it was literally nothing but a plot device to get him out of the nights watch
It was a neat excuse for him to gtfo of the nightswatch
Also Jon snow gets mad cred for defending the wall against a bajillion wildlings and also for executing wildling dunkirk from the white walkers
>>71479533
>>jon is a shit commander
We've never seen him command a real army
>>71479718
No, he's being manipulated and puppeted by the One True God
>>71479736
Prove me wrong, cunt.
Spoiler alert:you cant.
>>71479509
Well, Jon is a skilled warrior and commander who fights with and for his men. Sansa is a dumb cunt who got buttraped after stupidly agreeing to marry Ramsay. It's only natural that they'd choose him over her.
>>71479749
Or a Stark, I've heard conflicting reports Lady Mormont.
>>71479679
In the show?
Never mentioned again.
In the books? Stannis and Shireen are alive and since there will never be another book that's it.
what is the fucking end game of this shit show?
every major protag is woman except jon snow.
every major antagon is woman.
jon snow will be below sansa and danerys.
cia and dickless will be second tier.
>>71479776
burden of proof is on youcunt
>>71479760
who fucking cares if the wildlings were a real army or not? regardless, he still would have gotten them killed because he's a goddamned moron
>>71479645
bran cant father bastards like toph
>>71479679
they will reclaim throne as rightful rules of united kingdom of Westeros
>>71479741
He earned their respect in the battle. Knowing that he's Lord Commander of the Night's Watch probably didn't hurt either.
>>71479690
>Tolkien
>black and white
Melkor did nothing wrong.
>>71479794
Jon Snow harem end.
>>71479509
I don't care if he's a bastard. Ned Stark's blood runs through his veins. He's my king, from this day until his last day!
>>71479747
Why would he marry Arya or Sansa at that point?
He has nothing to offer since they'd all be ahead of him in any succession even if he was legitimized.
and Jon/Arya is weird, they were already really close as kids where they thought themselves as brother and sister.
>>71479796
Thats not how burden of proof works, you idiot. Its on you to prove jon fits the description better, not on me to prove a negative.
So who is going to win the "Game of Thrones"?
All those fucking Northerners are fucking cunts. They will only rally behind you if you are on the winning side. They all should be hanged for oathbreaking
>>71479794
>jon snow will be below sansa and danerys.
>implying
Jon will marry either Sansa or Dany and defeat the Others. BTW the Night's King is the final boss and he's a man.
>>71479862
nah you're just dumb
>>71479753
>Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.
>For all nights to come
Now if some bastard gets rezzed and says he's done with the Night's Watch before summarily executing the dudes he no longer has the legal authority to kill and running away with his filthy wildlings, I would think he's a deserter looking for a loophole.
>>71479872
The Iron Throne, it's clearly the best one
>>71479872
the chaloreesi
Robb literally put her out of succession since she was married to a Lannister and legitimized Jon as a Stark and made him his heir (since he thought Arya, Bran and Rickon were all dead)
Honestly Jon's declaration as king wasn't bad or ugly, but now when show becomes very predictable and they are cutting numbers of episodes it feels so sadly for all potential cool scenes.
>>71479872
The viewers
>>71479794
the night's king will kill the scum of the earthos
>>71479893
Stannis pls
>>71479900
He is, but dont tell jonfags that. They still think it makes logical sense that he was crowned KITN over two legitimate starks.
>>71479907
When did this happen? I honestly don't remember this
>>71479846
>even if he was legitimized.
If he was legitimized he would have the best claim for the Iron Throne.
Am I the only one who mourns Unella?
>>71479839
they all will be fucking jon snow with strap on if ti gets a harem ending.
>>71479872
feel good ending
dany sits in the south, jon in the north with a goodwill aliance between the two after the dragons categorically btfo the walkers
a mob of 300000 ice zombies aint shit when you can just carpet bomb them
>>71479907
This only happened in the books. And regardless, it goes without saying that Jon was only named his heir on the condition that Bran, Rickon, and Arya were all dead. If it turned out they were alive they'd still all be ahead of him in line.
>>71479944
It happened in the books. Robb never said anything about legitimizing Jon in the show.
who here /westofwesteros/
>>71479925
Only way he marries Sansa is if Dany accepts he's her nephew and family and can trust him in marrying Sansa to bring together the Houses Targaryen and Stark.
Even then there had better be better buildup like what George wanted between Arya and Jon in the original draft, so that marriage and bedding isn't awkward.
>>71479944
In the books, which makes me think that the lords will declare for Jon in TWOW instead of Sansa because of Robb's will, not because of random speeches.
>>71479953
Since when did anyone care about claim for thrones anymore? i thought that all went out of the window when he got crowned kitn. or are we just continually bending the rules to fit whatever is most convenient for jon at any given point in time?
>>71479997
t. gylbert
>>71479963
i liked her too, cersei will pay for proxy raping her
Will we ever see pregnant salsa?
A girls name is arya stark.
And I'm going home.
woo woo yeah you go girl!
desu though, I wanted walders death to be a bit more gratuitous, a slit throat is a mercy in medieval times
>>71479509
>>71479533
>Sansa Lannister-Bolton
>The Queen in the North
why i s Sansa such a dirty slag IRL?
>>71479907
Only in the books
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>>71479984
Yeah but between Jon and Sansa he comes first since she's a Lannister/Bolton whore
>>71480022
The lords will declare for jon in TWOW because A. sansa wont be there and B. nobody will know that Bran is alive. The way its written in the show is indefensibly retarded because theres 2 remaining legitimate Stark children and everyone knows it.
>>71480011
True, and this is the reason I think it will suck ass in the show if it happens- there's not enough episodes to develop the relationship.
>>71479953
And get support from who?
Dany has three dragons and a massive army dedicated to her for reasons other than her being the "rightful" heir. She'd pull a Maegor or Robert or at least get enough support so that Jaehaerys as a legitimized bastard is behind her in succession
Azor
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Jon
>>71480050
???
She doesn't lose her name after marriages that are no longer valid.
>>71480024
He can't be King in the North because he's not Ned's son. Bran, Sansa and Arya would come before him. If he was recognized as Rhaegar's legit son he would be strongest candidate for the Iron Thorne, however.
>>71480046
20 year old somewhat good looking semi-posh british girl
they are literally all like that
>>71479681
>gross
Normie pls go
>>71480039
Her previous husband was the lord of winterfell.
she is still a legitimate stark in any case.
face it, she has a better claim than Jon has. And I fucking hate sansa.
>>71480050
That is not how this fucking works.
>>71480046
she's a lower class brit
>>71480058
So he will forgive Cersei and put a bullet in his best friend to save her?RIP Brienne
>>71479569
It be fucking cold up here, we be more busy trying not to freeze our arses off than actually remembering things.
>>71480058
and then it's ignored like in sc2...
>>71480088
>marriages that are no longer valid.
u wot? a marriage doesn't stop existing because you don't like it
>>71480050
NOPE
Jon is still a bastard deserter of the night's watch.
>>71480093
>He can't be King in the North because he's not Ned's son.
but he is, and thats the problem. Jonfags dont give a shit that this makes NO SENSE. They'll make up as many excuses as they cant to justify it while as the same time screaming YAS JON RIGHTFUL HEIR TO IRON THRONE BECAUSE INHERITANCE IS NOW THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS YAAAASSS!
>>71480093
in the case of jon his actions trump all else
niggas like him are 1 in 10 million
>>71480030
Wow, happy to hear that, she deserves much more love than she gets. How do you think, will they let her die before the beginning of season 7?
>>71480113
>Her previous husband was the lord of winterfell
You mean Ramsay? The most hated man in the North?
>>71479679
>What will become of House Baratheon?
Gendry goes to Dragonstone, reads stannis' will that says Gendry is legitimized as a Baratheon if he dies.
So, what exactly happens to all of the vassals, retainers, garrisons, servicemen, castellans, maesters, farmers, millers, butchers, traders, tailors, soldiers, priests, stewards, sailors, and other assorted smallfolk, as well as castles, forts, villages, farms, mills, ports and towns that were part of Baratheon, Martell, Bolton, Umber and Tyrell lands?
>>71480069
They could always rush it.
Or have Sansa start acting jealous in more ways than one when Jon starts getting wildling chicks and servant girls throwing themselves at him and some Northern Lord's trying to fix him up with their daughters and sisters.
>>71480182
sure didnt seem that way when most of the north was fighting FOR ramsay LMFAO
desu if you are dissing jon or questioning his legitimacy you just need to begone
he is the best and we all love our new king in the north
Who /Kentucky/ here?
>>71480155
Marriages tend to stop existing when half the parties involved are eaten by dogs, and her marriage with Tyrion was never consummated in the first place.
>>71479705
Thatone bearded dude with the robes
>"They are screaming too loud."
>"It's cold"
>"My feet hurt."
>"The wolf shat in the corner"
>"I wish I was back home dying from the plague"
>>71480155
Her husband literally died
>>71480155
Not that anon, but
the first marriage is effectively null because it wasn't consummated
the second is null because Ramsay is dead
but this doesn't matter since Sansa knows that Bran is alive and he is the rightful head of House Stark and King of the north
>>71480075
I said he has the best claim, not that anyone would recognize it. But you know, I'm sure all the Westeros houses would back Jon before Dany and her army of eastern savages. The North for sure. The targ loaylists would probably choose him over, Dany too, because Rhaegar's son is the legitimate targ successor. If Jon were to push for the throne it could become a nasty intercontinental war.
>>71479679
Fight for Jon in the wars to come
>>71480142
>RIP Brienne
DON'T SAY THAT
>>71480187
just turn of your brain brah
men with swords never starve
>>71480187
they get seized by Dany next season
>>71480061
I think Sansa will be there, with Harry the Heir which will hurt her chances a lot because muh foreigners, but yes it doesn't make sense in the show. The original outline said of a feud between Bran and Jon but now I think it is being adapted to Jon and Sansa.
>>71480189
CIA will take Tyrion's place then in the love triangle? He should have hooked up with Ygritte.
>>71480155
Ones that aren't consummated can be.
Usually have to be set aside by the high septon but fuck it, they're in the North and most of the North doesn't care about the Seven anyway unless the two married persons act married
>>71480187
send an e-mail to d&d and see what happens.
>>71480223
That doesn't annul the marriage, especially since it was consumated.
>>71480155
Her marriage doesnt negate the fact that she is a trueborn stark, you fucking retard. And both of her husbands are gone/dead, their houses are extinct or in tyrions case have completely rejected him, so its not as if she'd be bringing them in with her as queen in the north. It would still belong to the starks. Use your fucking brain.
>>71479963
What's to mourn? She is still alive albeit tied up and taking zombie dick in the ass.
What's the deal with Jaeherys? Where does it come from?
>>71480240
why do people keep saying this?
no one knows bran is alive, jon didnt see him at crasters keep
>>71480285
> Your husband is dead
> You are free to marry again
> Based Cersei
It annuls the marriage.
Given why Tywin was gonna marry Cersei to Lorras.
>>71480238
>Her husband literally died
Tyrion is alive.
>>71480240
>king of the cripples
kek
>>71480187
Thanks for reminding me of another plot point that will never be brought up in the show
is Tyrion supposed to be a plump fat lord?
i don't imagine he does much exercise
why isn't Littlefinger fat either?
>>71480309
Jesus if I have to reiterate this again
sam told jon he helped bran pass the wall
theon told sansa he never got the chance to kill bran before he escaped
has there been a greater rise in power than qyburn
I know other people have higher ratings but none of those started as low as he did
>>71480285
She is a trueborn Stark reagrdless, after her marriage ends via doggos. The whole point of marrying Sansa was to have the legitimate heir of the North. Did you think she was stripped of all titles and turned into a Bolton when she married Ramsay?
>>71479963
Hell no, she reminds me too much of the head nun at the catholic church I went.
I have a deep fear of nuns, so glad she is ded.
>>71480244
No one's gonna decide the dude without dragons or the army of 100,000 savages and not backed up by a Dorne that is fine with women ruling, is the best choice for them and fight the person who has those things.
Dany's would've worked too hard in her eyes to just have to conquer Westeros so she can kneel to Jon or recognize him as her King
>>71480356
so he's been lost in the far north for god-knows how long?
presumed dead then
I did actually forget about that bit with sam though so thanks
>>71480341
Who cares about tyrion though? Nobody knows where the fuck he is and if he ever did show up again the Lannisters would have him executed before they used his illegitimate marriage to sansa as a claim to north
>>71480309
I don't blame you for forgetting stuff from season 5 but Jon and Sansa are supposed to know he is alive
>>71480309
>no one knows bran is alive
Sam told him, Salsa could told him out of screen.
>dat feel when you realize that Jon-eternal-beta will never demand heads of Greyjoys in first meeting with neo-Targ army
>>71480341
That marriage was never consummated and therefore annulled so she could marry Ramsay. Anon is talking about Ramsay, who is indeed dead.
>>71480359
Sadly Qyburn's rise is also being orchestrated by Varys.
>>71480367
>>71480339
>>71480289
>>71480273
>>71480240
>>71480238
You're right, though it ultimately doesn't matter if all the lords choose to swear fealty to Jon.
>>71480187
In GoT, nobody cares about anyone that's not nobility. Peasants like us aren't important.
>>71480187
Don't forget about Dorne.
What happened to all the vassals loyal to the Martell? Did no one give a shit that the snakes murdered their prince and took over?
>>71480356
Not that anon but they know Bran was alive as of years ago, they don't know he's alive right now.
With an army of the dead in beyond the Wall right now and almost all the wildlings at Hardhome slaughtered (showing Walkers are actively killing everyone they can), there's no reason they'd consider Bran as still being alive.
>>71480419
wat
>>71480400
>Nobody knows where the fuck he is and if he ever did show up again the Lannisters would have him executed before they used his illegitimate marriage to sansa as a claim to north
Are you retarded? He's coming back to Westeros with Dany's army as protection. Tyrion now has North and Westerlands.
>>71480298
I'm in Denial Land pretending she is already dead because I don't want her to suffer.And you have no heart.
>>71480421
And that's what everyone is criticizing. Bending the knee to a Snow when you have a Stark right next to him is mindbogglingly dumb.
>>71480395
He's not presumed dead. Show me any fucking evidence from canon that shows Jon or Sansa think he's dead. And no, you just saying "well theyd be thinking it" isnt evidence. They think he's alive, they just dont know where he is.
>>71480417
>That marriage was never consummated and therefore annulled
No the matter is still there. It was never annulled by a priest.
Tyrion could still fuck her and say "see we're married!"
>>71480266
>CIA will take Tyrion's place then in the love triangle? He should have hooked up with Ygritte.
I'd say Tyron is still part of the love triangle, just that there's no real love anymore from the original draft.
Sansa having some history with Tyrion, even a marriage, and being the one to flee to Jon at the Wall might be enough.
>>71480464
She's enjoying it, confess
>>71480388
I'm just saying not everyone will be happy that a foreign cunt and an army of ara... dothraki have come to take over their kingdom. And the North would back Jon for sure.
>>71480453
Are YOU retarded? The northern lords dont fucking know that, you complete and utter imbecile
>>71480453
>Tyrion now has North and Westerlands
Tyrion doesn't have anything, the marriage was never consummated as other people have pointed out already
>>71480452
>Le Dornish Master Plan Face
>>71479963
This is the dumbest, most forced waifu shit I have ever seen.
>>71480440
heres how I self rationalise, I'm going to say that somehow the guards etc inside sunspear knew about the coup and the ones who opposed it were killed. then all the other lords and vassals in dorne were simple informed that their prince and his son had died in some freak boating accident, then because dorne does not look down on bastards the much loved red vipers long time girlfriend was allowed to take power next in line
Can someone explain what "Ours is the Fury" is even supposed to mean?
>>71480419
in the books he's probably a dornish pawn
>>71480359
Jon Snow really. Going from a bastard in the Nights Watch to King in the North. He started off higher than Qyburn though.
>>71480421
>You're right, though it ultimately doesn't matter if all the lords choose to swear fealty to Jon.
THATS
THE
PROBLEM.......
What the fuck does "the north remembers" even mean? We don't forget we don't forgive legion shit? What about "always a stark in winterfell"?
>>71480481
Come on, who in their right mind would choose Sansa over Jon, even if she's true born? She's fucking retarded, while Jon has proven himself to be an experience fighter and commander.
Besides, it's in character for northeners to do shit their own way.
>>71480488
no need to swear
>>71480538
doesn't need to mean anything, just sounds cool and intimidating
WHITE WOLF WISE WOLF
JON SNOW AVENGED THE RED WEDDING! HE IS THE WHITE WOLF. THE KING IN THE NORTH!
>>71480505
>enjoying rape
Rly? You really have no heart.
>>71480532
No use in trying to rationalise such stupid plot holes, it is what it is
>>71480557
>The North remembers.
t. the North
>Good.
t. Tywin
>>71480492
???
The betrothal to Loras was set aside so she could marry Tyrion. Then that marriage was annulled without consummation, a legal right if the widow/wife needs marry again.
Do people really think that trivial details like lineage truly mattered when push came to shove even in medieval times? Whoever had the biggest army ended up the king. If Jon is king it's because his army was best. It just helps he's related to Ned, and even if he isn't the perception is there regardless and that's just as good.
>>71480581
tell me, jonfaggot, using concrete evidence, how exactly did jon avenge the red wedding? Tyrion, Ramsay, and Arya did all the work for him.
>>71480532
>the much loved red vipers long time girlfriend was allowed to take power next in line
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/141937-why-did-the-show-discard-robbs-will-only-to-arrive-at-the-same-outcome-less-credibly/#comment-7677185
Interesting discussion regarding Jon's Kingship,
>>71480581
>>71479683
>>71480419
Varys has littlebirds everywhere.
In Essos, in Westeros. Everywhere. He is the all-seeing eunuch of the world.
Did you really think he was gonna let Qyburn step into his shoes all whilly nilly? He was the one that even sent the little birds to Qyburn in the first place.
>>71480481
You have Jon Snow who looks like the second coming of Ned, is male and rides into battle with a fucking direwolf.
Then you have Sansa "used goods" Lannister who doesn't look northern, possibly is preggers with a babby bolton and has no direwolf.
>>71480440
ruined it with the preston shit
>>71480581
>JON SNOW AVENGED THE RED WEDDING!
No he didn't
>HE IS THE WHITE WOLF.
What does this even mean?
>THE KING IN THE NORTH!
Bran is still alive, Jon is a bastard.
God fucking damn it, Wyman
>>71480583
I'm not saying it in general, I'm saying she does enjoy it. Both giving and receiving rape.
>>71480581
>WHITE WOLF. THE KING IN THE NORTH!
It's treason then.
>Jonsafags BTFO left and right
>think CIAxSansa Master Race give a shit if CIA and Sansa ever actually get together romantically
Sansa knows the smarter choice is CIA. Even if they don't "end up together" they will still be steonger allies then Sansa and Jon Snow. CIAxSansa is the pure patrician's choice. Jonsa is the choice for children raised on too much Disney
>>71480561
Why would they not? We are told Jon is an experienced general (setting aside the fact that he's lost every battle and only survived by luck) so I assume he will be leading from the front against the others.
Why risk the king dying yet again when you can crown Sansa and send Jon to do what he does 'best'?
>>71480610
Then why do jonautists care so much about jon's lineage in terms of the iron throne? Because its convenient?
seriously fags, you cannot have this both ways. Either lineage matters or it doesnt. PICK.
>>71480561
I imagine this is D&D mentality and its fucking retarded
Just fuck my characters up
>>71480578
>What now you piece of filth?
What did he mean by this?
>>71480513
North knows not to fight the person with three dragons, they'd just bend the knee and Jon would too.
They're not gonna wage a war and lose even more people when they have Walkers to worry about that are more important.
Shouldn't matter right now exactly who's ruling because of inheritance with an army of the dead on the way. Just default to the dragon lady
>>71480561
no it doesn't make sense, Sansa wouldn't run anything, her advisors would just like during most of the time a female ruled in history. Which is something feudal lords would find favorable.
Not having succession laws leads the country to anarchy and nullifies strategical marriages. This is something that is unfavorable to feudal lords.
>>71480524
Love is blind, anon, and Unella is hot as hell. And I don't force anyone to love her.
>>71480513
Here's Dany's situation:
The Vale - With her
Dorne - With her
The Stormlands - Hate Cersei and Lannisters in general. Would side with Targ simply because she's the closet living heir to stannis.
The Westerlands - Divided since Cersei killed Kevan and Lancel, and Tyrion still have claims on Castly Rock. Jaime also hates Cersei now.
Crownlands - Former targ territory. Nobody there really supports Cersei.
Riverlands - Freys decimated and can barley hold it. Ayra will free Edmure and his army, who will either side with her or Jon.
The Vale - Sides with Jon, but Littlefinger could be butthurt and side with Dany.
The Iron Islands - Controlled by Euron who wants to marry Dany. Could do some reverse cross and hand over Yara and Theon to Euron for an alliance of marriage.
The North - Jon's army has been decimated and his alliance with the Vale is thin at best. He could never beat Dany's army.
>>71480657
SJW, please.
>>71480436
>Peasants like us aren't important.
> mfw I'm actually related to some European royal family
> mfw I actually have filthy rich cousins and uncles
> mfw still nobody cares about me
> mfw I'm still a peasant for being born in the divergent side of the family
THANKS GRANDMOTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHY MARRYING A LAWYER AS SO APPEALING TO YOU
>>71480638
This is retarded and even you know it
appearance has jack shit to do with anything. And by the way ghost was not there. BTFO.
>>71480627
i thought he was gonna cite stannis's offer to make him lord of winterfell as part of his claim but no
nothing
>>71480665
Because Sansa is a spoiled cunt and a retard?
>>71480674
Except that their ideas are approved by the fat man himself.
Unfortunetly CIA, will never win
He is as important as Varys, Euron, Olenna, etc.
They are just tools for the writer to fill in gaps.
Oh shit why would Yara go to Dany? Euron hack
Oh shit how does Jon beat Ramsay? CIA hack
Oh shit how does Dany get a big enough fleet? Oh shit we dont have a big enough budget to include an invasion of normandy at Dorne. Varys hack
>>71480655
No. Heart.
>>71480638
>Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK.
I mean I guess they can call a random peasant a Stark if they really want him as King, but I thought it was supposed to show loyalty to the rightful succession of the house.
>>71480696
>The North - Jon's army has been decimated and his alliance with the Vale is thin at best. He could never beat Dany's army.
>Dany's army is shittone of southlings
If Euron will have his Horn Jon beat dany's army in easy way.
>>71480676
>>71480578
>W-What are you doing?!
>Killing monsters
What did he mean by this?
>>71480738
>Because Sansa is a spoiled cunt and a retard?
You're an idiot. That has nothing to do with lineage. Stop inserting your own fanwank into the show and expecting it to be taken seriously as an argument.
>>71480657
SansaxAegonis the OTP
>>71480752Confess and Shame are forms of rape anon. It's pleasure through justice.
>>71480774
>If Euron will have his Horn
Eurone will marry Dany. Screencap this shit.
>>71480638
>and rides into battle with a fucking direwolf.
since when?
>>71480774
His horn doesn't work.
Euron is pure bluff.
>>71480738
>Because Sansa is a spoiled cunt and a retard?
This is a great argument. Why have inheritance laws at all when you can just decide that a random peasant would be a better ruler than the rightful claimant.
>>71480791
>tfw no Stannis, Jon and Aegon alliance
>tfw jonautists are making me actually side with sansa, a character i absolutely hate
>>71480738
>Except that their ideas are approved by the fat man himself.
Don't you play the "but grrm is the one behind everything" card on me because that's fucking bullshit and you know it.
D&D are the ones responsibles for the show now, that's a fact.
>>71480796
>Eurone will marry Dany.
nah
1) She already have fleet
2) She already build alliance with Yara.
>>71480791
that's actually a good ship
>>71480481
Sansa is a Lannister/Bolton
>>71480785
oh boy, was that scen satisfying.
>>71480801
But we have seen it work
Euron's plan is to give it to Dany for controlling her dragons better and then she dies when she blows on it.
>>71480700
>trying to confuse the issue this late in the game
Jonsas are squarely in the SJW/feminist court, loser anon. It's no secret. FemJews don't like any man who isn't a boy they can mold and turn into a drooling lapdog. It's why they're all 30-40, fat, and trying to hit on guys in their early 20's who look like Justin Beiber.
>>71480644
>Bran is still alive, Jon is a bastard.
Jon isn't a bastard. He isn't even Ned's sons.
Jon is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, did you even watch the last episode?
Lyanna was ahead of Ned Stark in the stark sucession line. After Brandon Stark was murdered by the Mad King the sucession line would've gone to Lyanna's sons, not Ned's sons. Ned would only pick the mantle if Lyanna and her heirs where dead. He was third in line.
Jon has the strongest claim to Winterfell.
>>71480790
> That has nothing to do with lineage.
Both share the same Stark blood (as far as the northmen know).
>>71480825
>1) She already have fleet
>2) She already build alliance with Yara.
How many houses of the Iron Islans support Yara? How many support Euron?
>>71480791
But Dany took Aegon's role and has her own Joncon.
Are you saying SansaxDany is gonna happen?
>>71480816
Both characters are completely butchered, but Sansa was literally just usurped by Jon and apparently none of the Northern Lords noticed
>>71480842
READ THE FUCKING THREAD INSTEAD OF SPAMMING AN ARGUMENT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED
>>71480846
No.
>>71480796
he's been established as an evil man, the show will never go there
You faggots realsie that Dany is bringing about 120k~ men and about 100k horses to a land ravaged by war.
Westeros has no food.
Winter has come - they don't have winter clothing
Dothraki can't work in "modern" society, they are reavers. They come to a village rape/plunder and move on.
All it takes is for a dothraki men to get into contact with some westerosi flu and Dany army will be gone.
>>71480865
Wow Sansafags are this mad lmao
>>71480849
No, that's not how it works. The male heirs are all ahead of the females regardless of age.
>>71480842
Jon is a bastard/deserter
>>71480581
>HE IS THE WHITE WOLF
>not "HE IS THE WINTER WOLF"
10x more badass and fitting than white wolf. Oh where could based Wyman the Pieman come up with a nickname like that, certainly not from Ghost, right?
And he avenged the Red Wedding by removing the Boltons from Winterfell and ending their position as Wardens of the North, two things they stole and were awarded with after being an instrumental part of the Red Wedding.
>>71480849
>Jon isn't a bastard.
PROVE IT.
>Lyanna was ahead of Ned Stark in the stark sucession line.
WHAT THE FUCK IS PRIMOGENITURE?
>>71480757
No it means they'll bend the knee to a Stark bastard who actually looks like a Stark before Sansa who is a worthless Tully/Lannister/Bolton cocksleeve.
The seed is strong in Jon but not Sansa
>>71480849
>Jon is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen
says who?
>>71480856
>How many houses of the Iron Islans support Yara? How many support Euron?
"Houses" of Iron islands is unimportant for her since she already ahve Reach and Dorne.
>>71480863
Robb was crowned King in the North while Ned was still alive
>>71480464
Which is why I have no fear.
>>71480849
>Lyanna was ahead of Ned Stark in the stark sucession line. After Brandon Stark was murdered by the Mad King the sucession line would've gone to Lyanna's sons, not Ned's sons. Ned would only pick the mantle if Lyanna and her heirs where dead. He was third in line.
No it wouldn't you retard.
Sisters go after the men and their sons and daughters.
>>71480666
Stark and Targaryen blood runs through his veins
>>71480856
>How many houses of the Iron Islans support Yara? How many support Euron?
Who cares? They'll all support Yara once Euron gets BTFO by Dany.
>>71480842
Unless Sansa was switched at birth with a Lannister/Bolton changeling, she is indeed a Stark. When Lyanna Mormont shittalks Sansa she isn't being literal. She's being anachronistically snarky so the viewer will like her.
>>71480883
>All it takes is for a dothraki men to get into contact with some westerosi flu and Dany army will be gone.
>>71480581
>Lord Wyman wasn't fat enough
>he didn't struggle greatly to kneel and stand back up again
>two of his younger, able bodied grandsons weren't by his side to help him down then up
>his many chins weren't trembling
>his sausage fingers didn't coil into a fist
shame
>>71480481
But the Stark name will end with her. As a king Jon can legitimize himself and produce Stark children and continue the legacy.
>>71480839
It also has tinfoil support
>>71480915
>"Houses" of Iron islands is unimportant for her since she already ahve Reach and Dorne.
I'm talking about Yara, not Dany. How many houses support Yara's claim to the Iron Islands?
>>71480883
You forgot her plot armor and the 3 dragons she has total control over for some reason
>>71480863
I hate both characters and think Bran is not only the rightful heir but by far the most suited for it, yet Sansa did get usurped and we're supposed to accept it because "lol she dont look like stark durrrr"
>>71480825
Euron has that horn that can control dragons, or is it not in the TV series?
>>71480644
Nobody knows hes alive
>>71480912
Says HBO and the show.
They even show a clip of Sansa talking about Rhaegar kidnapping and raping her. You have Dayne saying their prince wanted them there.
>>71480906
Not that anon but more like the egg is strong.
>>71480916
No he wasn't
>>71479519
King of Booty Stuff
>>71480846
>But we have seen it work
when
>>71480924
holy shit, talking to you jonautists is like smashing my head against a brick wall
>>71480538
They're hotheads.
>>71479794
Don't forget about Euron andDragonbinder
Next season is gunna be nuts
>>71480903
Ned would have sucession if Lyanna had no heirs, but she had, thus her heir is second after Brandon.
IRL this has literally been the cause of the War of the Roses and many other wars in England.
You need to go check the books again.
> Euron Greyjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDUsZay38es
>>71480979
>Says HBO and the show.
oh, when they appeared in the show? I never realized there was a mise en abyme
>>71480557
Yes. Begrudgery is thick in the North.
>>71480916
Robb is crowned after Ned's beheading, he rebels before.
Is this the last stand of the anti-jonfags? They've been going all out today. Sad!
>>71480849
>Lyanna was ahead of Ned Stark in the Stark line of succession
LMFAO no. First of all, all the sons come before any of the daughters. And second of all either Lyanna or Benjen is the youngest of those Stark children.
>>71480794
What's happening now is not pleasure through justice. It's torture.
>>71480688
This sounds exteremely out of character for the northeners as they're presented in the show, this is something southern houses would do. Northmen are all about honor and combat, so it's reasonable they'd support Jon given that they're on their way to fight the Night's King.
>>71480978
Yes they do, pay fucking attention for once instead of facebooking during the show
>>71480951
Yeah because she definitely cant name heirs the same way Robb did when he thought Bran Rickon and Arya were dead
>>71480903
>>71480912
> I'm disregarding facts because it doesn't fit my fandom.
>>71480849
>Jon is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen
So, not even a son of the lord of House Stark, but a Targaryen bastard.
>Lyanna was ahead of Ned Stark in the stark sucession line.
This isn't how it works, retard. Ned was older than Lyanna as well.
>Jon has the strongest claim to Winterfell
He has by far the weakest claim to Winterfell.
Why are Jontards so fucking stupid?
>>71480955
>How many houses support Yara's claim to the Iron Islands?
Everyone with Targ's support, when Yara reach Iron Islands.
Let all true men declare their loyalty
>>71481014
But Lyanna was younger than Ned so how in the fuck do you actually figure that Lyanna was ahead of Ned in the line of succession. Specifically when all the sons are ahead of any daughters, even if that daughter is the first born child, and Lyanna was the youngest.
>>71480951
The stark name will pass to her children, regardless of the father, if she is ruling queen. Men can marry into royalty without usurping the house.
>>71481014
>Ned would have sucession if Lyanna had no heirs, but she had, thus her heir is second after Brandon.
Not that anon but women pretty much automatically go after men in inheritance everywhere except Dorne you retard.
Are the Starks Dornish?
>>71481039
>Northmen are all about honor
honor comes from following rules and traditions.
>>71481052
Can you prove jon isnt a bastard targaryen? can you? I will wait patiently.
>>71481054
Jon has the strongest claim for the entire 7 kingdoms, never mind the north.
>>71481033
>Jonautists spout a bunch of lies and bullshit
>people say the truth
>HUURRR DURR YOU GUYS ARE ANTI JON
kill (You)rself
>>71481038
> implying confess and shame weren't torture
> implying she isn't enjoying herself now
> implying justice isn't being made in that chamber
EYM SHAY DA FUNE HOAR
>>71480938
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic#Pandemics_and_notable_epidemics_through_history
Dothraki immune system can fight off eastern diseases, they are not immunized vs diseaes from Westeros
WHERE'S DRAGONBINDER
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>>71481054
>Why are Jontards so fucking stupid?
Theyre fucking braindead
if sansa wins I will be so pissed. She has done nothing but bitch and whine the entire series.
I hope she gets brutally killed next season.
littlefinger will side with euron
>>71481107
post yfw based D&D cut her Meereen scene
>>71481093
A bastard of Rhaegar has as much claim to the throne as a bastard of Robert you stupid fucking Jontard.
>>71481039
But we are told they are """"""loyal""""" to house Stark. Picking a bastard instead of the actual heir is literal usurping.
>Wyman gets cucked out of most iconic scenes because pandering to casual fans
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>71480999
kingsmoot retard
This thread is gold, jon fags getting absolutely BTFO
>>71481054
THIS
H
I
S
>>71479533
>littlefinger is the only reason he is alive
or that fact that he is currently invincible and being protected by the lord of light since he has a much greater purpose
>>71481109
It is a novel and a TV series. It will happen if it's plot-relevant, anon.
I haven't seen a single good argument from jonautists in this entire thread
sad
>>71481125
Wins what?
Against Jon after she conspires with Littlefinger?
>>71481088
No, honor comes from fighting bravely, which is what Jon did and why they chose him over Sansa. Honestly, it's not hard to understand. The ones who fought with him respect him and the ones who didn't feel ashamed. Both groups support him out of emotion, not reason.
>>71480917
We'll see.
Can anyone read Turkish?
>Yayınlandığı tüm ülkelerde izlenme rekorları kıran Game of Thrones (Taht Oyunları) dizisi, önceki gün 6. sezonun son bölümüyle ekranlara geldi. Dizinin Türk hayranları, dış basında yer alan sürpriz bir haberle heyecan yaşadı.
>Ă–zge GĂĽrel, Game Of Thrones kadrosuna dahil oldu
>STARK’A HAYAT VERECEK
>Dizinin başkahramanı Jon Snow’un annesi Lyanna Stark’ın doğum sırasında öldüğü sezon finali sonrasında pek çok internet sitesinde karakterin 7. sezonda…
>>71481125
Let's be honest here, nerd.
Can you picture Sansa getting killed?
I can't, in no situation I can picture Sansa in danger of her life.
>>71481153
Retard.
If littlefinger hadnt saved his scrawny idiotic ass, he'd be a prionser to ramsay right now getting the skin ripped off of him alive.
>>71481148
And how many dragons were bound at the kingsmoot?
>>71481140
A bastard of Robert would have the most legit claim to the throne right now, because all other Baratheons are dead.
>>71481139
I'm glad they did, Shae was intolerable and I was dreading her return even if it was just a hallucination
>>71481142
Sansa doesn't want to rule, she tells Jon to take the Lord's chambers because he's the head of House Stark now. People who think Sansa is going to backstab Jon are dumb. She's the savvy and pragmatic advisor that Robb and Ned didn't have and is gonna watch his back so he doesn't get fucking killed (again)
>>71481157
the game of thrones
>>71481194
all dragons that were present on kingsmoot
>>71481148
THE BOOKS
ARE NOT
THE SHOW
show euron is a retard who just let his whole fleet get stolen. Making him into a genuine threat is about as reasonable as sansa suddenly wanting to murder her siblings to become queen.
>>71481187
>I can't, in no situation I can picture Sansa in danger of her life.
Not that anon but she might be if Littlefinger realizes she's a bad investment and will never join him on the iron throne.
After that, he'll see her as a pawn just like he did Cat
>>71481197
>not /got/
Fuck off
>>71481186
>>71481140
>A bastard of Rhaegar
elope reveal in season 7
>literally disowned by Robb
>married into two of the most hated families in the north (lannister and boltons)
>is a woman
>looks nothing like a stark
And yet Sansafags wonder why no one in the North wants anything to do with this used up slag
>>71481140
Rhaegar and Lyanna, at least in the books, married under the Old Gods. This is canon and not debatable. Whether or not that marriage would ever be seen as legitimate is another story entirely.
>>71481187
ok how about she gets anally raped this time instead
>>71481103
Cersei is to blame for getting herself caught by the Faith in the first place, she could have been shame'd into insanity for all I care. Septa was just doing her job.
>>71481150
>Jon literally confirmed for Azor Ahai and King in the North in one episode
>anti-jon fags going insane
>>71481226
oh shit i forgot to put /got/ in the subject
someone else make it
>>71481193
incorrect. he can't be killed and wasn't going to die no matter what. the intervention of the Knights of the Vale was all part of the lords plan. Look at Jon on the battlefield; he can't be touched. Arrows which cut everyone else down fall all around him leaving only the spot he was standing in untouched. No one can hit him with a sword. He escapes the crush and he comes out victorious.
He can't die
>>71479943
The Rickon thing is bullshit and I think Rickon will be KitN in the books but I don't think the northerners would want Sandra Lannister Bolton as their Queen.
>>71481218
Exactly
>>71481210
>Jon is the head of House Stark now
I don't understand. There are two people confirmed alive ahead of him.
>>71481222
>Making him into a genuine threat is about as reasonable as sansa suddenly wanting to murder her siblings to become queen.
so Euron will be the season 7 big bad then?
>>71481240
T H I S
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I
S
>>71481226
LF would NEVER EVER harm Cat.
He is a beta spaghetti faggot in all senses of the word when it comes to Cat.
NEW THREAD
>>71481279
>>71481279
>>71481279
>>71480036
I guess she learnt from the Waifs horribly fluffed assisantion attempt on her..
Just get the kill done
>>71481270
Rickon? you mean Bran?
>>71481103
>implying she isn't enjoying herself now
>implying justice isn't being made in that chamber
No and nowow, just look at my mighty arguments
>>71481253
"promise me Ned"
Prince who was promised.
>>71481280
yep
>>71481270
The northerners are presumably not braindead (but they seem to have terrible memories) so they might understand that she had no choice but to marry Tyrion, and literally everyone knows the ramsay marriage was D&D shitposting
>>71481276
And one of those folks is no where to be seen. The other just watched a bastard get crowned King in the North and just sat there brooding and glaring at Littlefinger.
>>71481246
Quote the passage that proves them being married because I don't remember it
>>71481252
>Septa was just doing her job.
Aw, you are so sweet. Seven blessings to you.
>>71481359
Not him but I think I remember it too.
>>71479794
>nights king
>euron
>jaime
>jon snow
>cersei
>danny
>sand sneks
>yara
seems pretty fucking balanced to me at the moment
>>71481359
It's one of Bran's chapters I think, he sees their wedding through the weirwood
>>71481374
>Still defending Cersei the absolute madwoman
wew lad
Series ends with the wall coming down and the Night King raising the dead all over the world. All the humans lose and anyone left alive can only dream of Spring.
>>71481395
No it isn't. Youre making this up.
>>71481359
I don't remember the exact passage but special mention is made to Rhaegar and Lyanna visiting the Isle of Faces which has the only weirwood tree south of Moat Cailin
>>71481310
No, in the book Stannis sends Davos to arrange for an agreement with Manderly to get him to pledge for Stannis. Manderly locks Davos in a cell because he has to suck the Boltons' and Freys' dicks until they give him his son back. So he executes a random criminal and says it's Davos and sends Davos to Skagos, the big island in the top right in pic related to retrieve Rickon. This happens right at the beginning of a DwD and we don't see Davos again in the book making it highly likely that he'll show up near the beginning of Winds of Winter with Rickon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7kW7cT1uGA
>>71481415
>>71481415
He isn't making shit up mate.
>>71481434
>which has the only weirwood tree south of Moat Cailin
No, many castles have them for Northern dignitaries.
>>71479829
>knowing he's an oathbreaker didn't hurt either
Bravo Dabid
>>71481732
Jon supporters are legit retarded
>>71479509
She can give him a trueborn heir.
>>71479794
Tree time travel magic fixes everything that was broken.
>>71481708
At the very least there's one in the Riverlands on the land of that on family that Jamie visits in AFFC.
>>71482137
You and him were talking about Dorne.
>>71482178
I responded to someone saying that Weirwoods don't exist south of the North besides the Isle of Faces, which isn't true.
>>71482219
Wasn't the subject about how Raeghar took Lyanna to the nearest weirwood?
>>71481186
it's news article about her casting as Lyanna. It also says she will play Lyanna in flashbacks during season 7
Request more Pepe /got/
>>71479841
What if Jon marries this loli? Can we see the consumation of their marriage?
>>71480289
So, Sansa can go and claim Bolton`s land and castle? besides, is not like it is strongly guarded anyway, most soldiers must have died in the battle.
