Hi, /tv/, I'm going to tell you a bunch of what's going to happen in the next two seasons. I'm going to tell you because I know and I can, but I shouldn't, because I have a job interview tomorrow and that should tell you why I'm telling you and how I know. Some of this stuff isn't set in stone yet, so I'll try to distinguish what's going to happen from what will probably happen and could happen.
I suggest screenshotting this if you don't believe me. Time will tell.
Finding out that he can no longer ally with Danaerys, Euron will seek to ally with Cersei through marriage, which Cersei also desire because Qyburn will inform her that younger, prettier Danaerys is sailing to take her throne. This marriage will further alienate Jaime from Cersei. Danaerys will sail to Westeros, and her fleet will be attacked by Euron's Ironborn and the Lannisters.
Writers have not decided for certain if Euron will have the dragonhorn in the show, but it seems likely he will reveal he has been to Valyria and will produce it, but it will only be alluded to until his fleet attacks Dany's. It's already been established that Dothraki are unused to the sea and between that and the Dragon Horn. Euron will decimate Dany's forces. She will not be completely defeated though. Varys will likely die during this battle though. There is also a possibility he will be killed by Qyburn's little birds beforehand which will allow for Dany's fleet to be taken by surprise.
The remains of her fleet will anchor in the North, and now in charge of a decimated army and facing both the Lannisters and the Ironborn fleet, she will have to seek other allies.
She will seek out Jon Snow's help in the North. Dany wants help taking the iron throne, Jon needs her dragons to fight the white walkers. They forge a begrudging alliance (at first) and this alienates Jon from Sansa. Sansa argues that Danaerys is a Targaryen and that her family killed their grandfather and uncle. Furthermore, Sansa believes that no King in the North should ever trust a Southern King or bend the knee to one because she remembers what 'their' father suffered at the hands of a Southern King. Jon tells her that they need the dragons because winter has come. She continues to be obstinate and Jon basically tells her he is king the north and that's that. Littlefinger begins planting more seeds of discontent, but she rebuffs him for the time being.
Arya coming story arc will involve her knocking off some minor names on her list, eventually leading her to back to The Hound (no longer on her list) when she kills Thoros of Myr and Beric Dondarrion (in that order). She won't kill Melisandre because Meli will reveal that Gendry is still alive.
Eventually, Jon and Dany will sort out their pettier initial difference and begin considering eachother for marriage. Further alienating Sansa. Soon after, Jon will find out from Bran that he is a Targaryen, and this news will be the tipping point for Sansa. Littlefinger's comment about Jon being a bastard born in the South didn't bother her when she thought he was her brother, but now that she knows that he is not Ned's son, she will be tipped toward Baelish once more and will be turned against him.
Who cares post it on reddit
There are a lot of details here that won't be sorted out for a while though, and I'll try to walk you through all the options.
Sansa betrays Jon leading to his death. Arya arrives with Melisandre and the Hound (possible soon-to-be love interests--both characters seeking redemption, scarred by fire). Arya tells the truth about Littlefinger's involvement in their father's death, Sansa turns on him and will kill him, knowing the woman he loves hates him. Very possible that Sansa will die in the act of killing him. Their deaths as being discussed are envisioned to be sort of a grotesque fulfillment of Littlefinger's 'picture' of them together with them strangling each other at the foot of the Iron Throne possibly.
Meli may revive Jon again at this point, and Jon will then step down so that Arya can be queen of Winterfell, appeasing the factions that refused to be ruled by a Targ.
Writers are also considering having Arya arrive before Sansa's betrayal of Jon, and having her use the tools of deception that Baelish taught her to lead him into a trap, and have his death be a parallel of Ned Stark's death, where Baelish is cornered suddenly at what he thinks is the apex of his scheming. This is more likely from what I know.
Jaime will kill Cersei either during or after the big showdown between the Northern forces/Dany and the Lannisters/Ironborn. Afterwards, he will join the Night's Watch and will fight against the walkers dying after having redeemed himself.
It's unclear who Dany will marry, and the writers, I think, have no idea who it will be at this point. There's a lot of consideration of Jon and Tyrion, but it's probably going to be revealed that Tyrion is a Targ (mad king raped his mom and his incestous genes produced an imp--big surprise), and there's a lot of concern that incest will be a big turn off to viewers. Also, Tyrion will very likely die in the last season just FYI.
Jon might die fighting the white walkers in order to save the realm.
Asha might drown in her coronation ceremony after Euron is defeated and Theon would then be named king of the Iron Isles, because the writers want to spend the next season building him back into a man.
All of this is supported in the show so far no matter how it shakes out and if you have any questions, I'll be up for a little longer to explain how.
OP delivered tonight, boys.
Remember that.
Also, Cleganebowl is happening.
>>71383038
Will Qyburn upgrade lannister's fleet to dromons?
>Jon dies again
>Tyrion secret Targ
Shit tier trolling bro.
>>71383167
You know it will happen.
Based on all the theorizing I've seen here --
How will da ebil SJW feminazis ruin muh dragon teevee show
wow it's fucking shit, just like every past season
Your source?
seems passable desu
so whats gonna happen with sam and his bitch and her kid? are they gonna become like wizards? what will happen to bran? will he see his bro and sisters ever again? is anyone else coming back to life?
>>71383167
I agree, that Jon shouldn't be revived again.
I'm not a writer, I just worked in proximity to them. /tv/ is correct that they are largely incompetent.
HOWEVER.
There's basis for it, because there's resistance to making Jon king in the north permanently when he's not a real son of Ned--not just among the characters that will eventually oppose it in the show whatever happens, but among the show writers that think that would be an unfitting end to the Stark plot--for Ned's legacy to be voided by Winterfell being ruled by someone not of his direct line.
Also, they've already been working to establish drama surrounding it. When Jon banishes Meli instead of executing her, it's to accomplish two things:
>Jon is vulnerable now. Meli can't save him.
>Meli will come back.
In order for that return to have any dramatic weight, Meli has to go south to encounter the Hound and Arya in order to be taken off her list. Meli will come back with them, in the nick of time, and just like Jon left the Watch after being revived the first time, he will set aside his crown the second time. In this scenario, Sansa dies, and this opens up the door for Arya to be crowned Queen in the North. Pro-tip: the whole point of Lyanna Mormont's character is to legitimize the idea of the Northerner's following a young girl as a leader.
>>71383038
My dad works at Nintendo and this is false
>>71383387
Honestly don't know. Personally I hope he dies, because the actor that plays him IRL is even more a beta faggot than his character.
>>71383038
what are the brothers without banners going to do? does jorrah come back once more? uncle benjin? what happens to bron? does the dorne shit get any better? are they going to introduce more villain charcters because now theyre all dead except cersei. does that old lady witch shit come back into play?
>>71383351
Soon to be former showstaff. Not gonna say what, but I work with people that have knowledge of the writing process.
I should not have the information that I have, but I'm not the only one who shouldn't have it. There's not a lot of ill that can come of me sharing this though unless I dox myself. My knowledge is limited enough, the process is incomplete enough, the details are subject to change enough, and the seasons are far away enough that I'm not really risking much unless they knew who exactly was leaking it.
Also, 4chan honestly doesn't matter enough for them to care, and I'm near 100% certain no one I work with even goes here or knows any more about this place than your typical twitter user.
>>71383387
Well the safest and most reasonable place for Gilly would have been Horn hill, but Sam screwed that up when he decided to impress his wife and her son in an entirely inappropriate "alpha" moment. Women aren't allowed in the citadel, but there are a lot of brothels in Old town so I guess she could make a living somehow.
so the humans beat the white walkers
with the help of the dragons or do they end up taking over?
what is the 'ending' going to be?
>>71383509
Brothers without Banners are going to disband when Arya kills Beric and Thoros. They'll try to kill Arya, and the Hound will save her.
>jon is going to die 2 more times before the series ends
>>71383542
Humans win. That'
>>71383038
>Varys will die
fukken dropped
>>71383588
*That really shouldn't be a surprise to you though. You should notice by now that the outcomes are getting more favorable for the good guys. Killing people we like and letting the baddies win is just Germ's way of making the eventual payoff hit harder.
I can see it happening but God, all this Arya's stuff sounds awful. I see now that she has been the worst character for a long time
Well, It's going to be pretty shitty desu
Who Dany will marry is really the last relevant question pertaining to the show. It seems that since the show has gone full feminist SJW that they can't end the show with her marrying a man and being king and queen. I predict it will just end with her on the throne without any implications of a husband with various bits of dialog in the final episodes about how all the previous men she has been with were unworthy of her.
>>71383628
Totally agree really hoping the outcome is
>Writers are also considering having Arya arrive before Sansa's betrayal of Jon, and having her use the tools of deception that Baelish taught her to lead him into a trap, and have his death be a parallel of Ned Stark's death, where Baelish is cornered suddenly at what he thinks is the apex of his scheming. This is more likely from what I know.
>>71383689
What's Bran's endgame?
>>71383684
It's actually funny you mention that because the writers are mainly wrestling with it for that very reason.
They've killed off or written out all the interesting male characters due to poor choices or SJW bullshit. As far as the poor choices though, I'll be honest that I haven't read the books but between the environment I work in, wikis and this place, I know a lot about the book plot--just not the book-only characters. However, the current position of the writing staff is that they want to marry her, they just might not be able to. It's fucking hilarious. They've created an allegory for the awful feminist shrike nonsense they've used her character to propogate.
POTTERY.
Are they going to introduce any funny evil characters to replace poor Ramsay ?
Maybe Euron, we hasn't been too well introduced.
>>71383720
Not going to be decided till final season obviously. But I have some insight from talking to people that know what I know through the same kinds of channels and we think that he's going to replace the night's king but in some kind of benevolent capacity.
Or he'll simply die to kill him a la Harry and Voldemort.
Something something, he touched him and now their fates are bound.
I know it might be hard, but...
Any picture to prove you somehow work with HBO ?
Will Theon get a new dick?
is yara gonna fuck dany? i bet theyll get married and then hillary will be president.
it should be bron tho
>>71383801
Yeah, it's gonna be Euron. From what I've looked up, he's pretty sadistic in the books so they'll have some material to work with.
Also, something I forgot to mention, they want Jon to kill him, which I think means he's going to raid the citadel and kill or capture Sam or something. Or he'll capture Sam's family and Sam will travel to reunite with Jon and help him defeat Euron's forces, die in the act and send Jon into bloodrage mode before he kills him. Disclaimer: those are just my theories.
>>71383072
>and there's a lot of concern that incest will be a big turn off to viewers. Also, Tyrion will very likely die in the last season just FYI.
Is there any way to let the writers know that we want Dany x Jon to get together despite the fact that they are related? I mean, it's to be expected because of the time period. Would a petition work?
>>71383819
I don't work for HBO, I work for one of the companies that contributes to the production of the show, and if I specified which one that could be a tell because we're not very big. The only thing that worries me about doing this is that there's, to my mind, a lot of people like me but I never see them post this kind of shit. I'm not terribly worried though cause I'm changing industries and worse case this just gets messy for me. But there are people that it could also get messier for that are the reason I know anything.
What the fuck was the point of Jon and his secret parentage?
>>71383860
lol, no. sorry. no harm in trying a petition though.
>>71383768
I don't understand. Dany can just change the rules if she's on the throne. She can rule and her king be her 'queen.'
If they are trying to go the feminist\SJW rote that works, too.
there are only those 2 seasons left right?
who ends up on the throne, Dany I assume?
this sounds fairly standard for mediocre tv writing. op is a neet who watches too much tv, or telling the truth. probably the former but i can believe hobo would do all of this.
>>71383858
Good. We need more characters with memorable one-liners.
>>71383908
Fair enough, I'll just screencap and wait one year.
>>71383912
Seems like to make his life even more miserable.
Though if Sansa can die that would be even better. But the thought of having Jon die before he can fuck Dany hurts my soul.
Hey, OP are the writers still working from GRRM's plot points or are they sailing on their own now?
OP can u put a name so we know what posts are yours?
Why would you think Melisandre is going to save the day? She'll go over to Cersei's side to give her an edge against Daenerys/Jon alliance.
I mean it's basically wrapping up to be Cersei + White Walkers vs everyone else.
>>71383912
It's probably confusing the way that I structured my post, but I didn't intend for it to be a timeline. A lot of what Jon is going to do is going to happen before he dies again IF he dies again. And if he dies again, he's coming back. Me and some of the other guys have a theory that Jon's three births represent the three heads of the dragon in the dragon prophecy, and on the third birth he'll become Azor Ahai incarnate.
But are you asking why his parentage was kept secret?
It's made clear that Robert wanted to kill all Targs.
>>71383091
fuck you lying piece of shit, Tyrion is Tywin's son.
>>71383768
>GoT staff don't read the books
now I know you're telling the truth
>Jon dying again.
He is like the Kenny of GoT.
I know that he should probably die, but what was the fucking point of keeping his parentage a huge secret of he's not going to marry Dany and then go fuck off and die? Just for everyone to turn on him? I came to that conclusion on Sunday. Don't those assholes get paid to think outside the box?!
What was the point of it all?
>>71384073
I just wondered what kind of purpose it had if Jon won't stay king in the north or try claiming the irone throne. His story seems pretty pointless if what you say is true. So even the north will be ruled by a female and Jon will just die like 2 more times and achieve nothing. Feels bad man.
>>71384086
There have been theories of Tyrion being a Targ for years though.
>>71383768
You were borderline believable until you started spewing memephrases and talking about SJW bullshit.
Pretty obvious you're just baiting for (You)s at this point.
>>71383072
>Jon will then step down so that Arya can be queen of Winterfell
Oh for fucks sake, I hope you're lying
>>71384172
yeah and they're retarded. if anything it's jaime and cersei who are targs. dont you fucking dare ruin the Tyrion-Tywin relationship with this retarded twist you fucking kikes.
>>71384182
Is there a photo of him where he doesn't look like he's being strangled?
>>71384027
jon fucking danny is le ebin book title meme pottery i'm looking forward too
>Daenerys becomes free of her husband
>Frees the slaves
>Cucks her boyfriends
>Then heads to Westeros for ultimate power
Keeping in line with her endgame feminism motif it doesn't make sense for her to marry anyone.
>>71383072
>arya going to rule anything ever
you're not even trying rofl. Arya is going to die alone in the freezing cold
>>71384209
If anything, it would explain the Tyrion/Tywin relationship and validate their mistrust of one another. How would it ruin it exactly?
>>71384053
Yeah, sorry.
>>71383923
Yeah, but my thinking they want her to marry for love. If she marries just to marry some cuck, then the problem they face is that she's unsympathetic.
Women want true love. If you can't offer them the feminist power fantasy AND true love, they reject the fantasy. Do you see?
>>71384027
Yeah, he's still involved, but apparently the relationship is that he's a lazy bastard and like the idea of being involved more than he actually cares to involve himself. My suspicion is that he gets more enjoyment in experiencing his story than coming up with it.
This explains his fetishization of violence.
>>71384067
Nein. She still wants to fight the coming dark. She knows what's coming. Also, Arya's coming plot requires her to tie up loose ends. Melisandre is one of the most significant of those loose ends because the future of house baratheon is also tied to it if nothing else, and we'll never find that out except for through an encounter between Meli and Arya.
>>71383959
Yeah, we're all pretty certain it's Dany. The only outside theory I know of is the chance that that that the throne will be broken. As in, the end of Dany's journey leads her to no longer desire the throne and somehow break the shitty system that everyone lives in. I feel like that's reaching for this show though.
>>71384261
Guess the Targ line ends with her.So she wins the battle, but loses the war, because she won't produce an heir.
>>71384182
We're among you.
>>71384239
Rhaegar was a singer.
The song he produced was of ice and fire.
Jon is born of Ice and Fire.
It's not necessarily about Dany.
>>71384307
I think you just nailed it anon. THAT is the endgame of feminism, maybe she'll refuse to produce an heir and proclaim "equality" for everyone in the land.
If I remember correctly Dany can't have any more children.
So what's the point of her marrying?
>>71384308
Yes, you're one of the more desperate neckbeards that dwell this sad board. The ones that will fabricate anything for anonymous attention.
You don't work in the industry. You don't know what you're talking about. You're a wikipedia fag with too much time on his hands. Probably overweight, unemployed, doing your best to validate your own worthless existence through replies from other equally disheveled losers before you go jerk off to hentai and collapse in a pile of your filthy fatrolls.
>>71384182
>>71384308
Btw, I'm just going to say also:
People that do consumer research can be among the most redpilled people on the planet.
>>71384326
Martin and D&D said that prophecy was translated wrong and savor will be a woman.
>>71384391
>he uses the meme words 'pottery and redpilled'
>talks about 'SJW bullshit'
>wants us to believe he works for HBO on its most prestigious intellectual property
Your house of cards is tumbling down. Keep it more vague next time, post your """spoilers""" and leave the thread before you fuck up.
>>71384286
>they want her to marry for love. If she marries just to marry some cuck, then the problem they face is that she's unsympathetic.
>Women want true love. If you can't offer them the feminist power fantasy AND true love, they reject the fantasy. Do you see?
But Dany wants to rule and make alliances. Political marriages are a result of that. Everyone understands that. Why would they care about what 'feminists' want. Shouldn't they be more concerned about the story itself.
If anything I would prefer if she broke the chair, personally.
>>71384356
She creates a new immigration policy allowing unlimited unvetted sandwalkers from Essos come live for free in Westeros
>>71384378
I actually don't technically work in the film industry. This show is my job so to speak. Believe what you want.
>>71384452
I actually don't want you to believe I'm employed by HBO. Because I'm not. Like I said.
>>71384391
>People that do consumer research can be among the most redpilled people on the planet.
Why?
>>71384459
Seriously though. This ending makes sense.
Daenerys winning the final battle with Jon dead, smashing the iron throne and refusing to have a child is the only way to end the "Game of Thrones" in a SJW paradise way.
screencap this.
>>71384457
>why should they care about about what feminists think.
Earned media that includes tens of thousands of blog hits, hundreds of thousands to millions of social media hits and dozens of corporate media hits achieved solely by touching on the correct social pressure points...
They care.
>>71384452
What is even your point ? He can't work on a tv show because he's right wing ?
You know there's like 20 million far right voters in my country surely some of them work for tv shows
>>71383038
You guys still think this isn't the final season. Shame...Shame...Shame...Why do you think OP is spoiled the plot? They lost all there funding thanks to Brits showing the EU a middle finger. The most you faggots can hope for is a shitty made for tv movie that borders on evangelions existential dribble in the final two episodes of the series. Why do you think the all the characters plans has been revealed and nicely spoon fed to you so you can have atleast some fulfillment. I feel sorry for all of you.
>>71384490
Will Jon achieve anything important like ending the war with the WW?
>>71384274
Are you really this stupid?
>>71384527
Because their job is to study social trends ranging from the macro (metadata and survey based statistical analysis) to micro level (social media observation and focus groups).
Imagine if your entire job was to ask people how they felt about politics, culture and consumer goods and on a long enough timeline, no questions were irrelevant.
>>71383052
> she kills Thoros of Myr and Beric Dondarrion
Uh, why?
>>71384621
They sold Gendry.
This sounds awful, so it must be true.
wait... so why isn't Dorne helping Dany right in the beginning? And where is the Redwyne Fleet which should alone crush the Eurons fleet?
>>71384591
What meme am I missing here? European paranoia? I don't get it.
>>71384570
But feminists and SJWs want EQUALITY. That is the true point of those movements. SJWs and feminists who just want white women to be in power are just white women who want to exercise their power as whites. They are not true feminists nor are they true SJWs.
Because, at the end, the powerful woman ends up alone. Isn't this also an all too familiar trope as well?
>>71384653
underrated post
does stoneheart ever appear?
>>71384653
I know. This is so disappointing that I think I might just drop this fucking show.
>>71383052
Kek
>>71384734
Sansa took over that role. Another reason to hate her dumb ass.
>>71384674
None of them actually wants equality that's just rhetoric, of course everybody just want power for themselves
>SJWs and feminists who just want white women to be in power are just white women who want to exercise their power as whites. They are not true feminists nor are they true SJWs
So, 99% of sjws ?
>>71384594
Yeah, any other outcome would cause significant rage quit, not enough to effect the show's bottom lines of course. The most ragequitting would occur if Dany died, the key creatives are most attached to Arya, but Jon's character has been most integrated into the white walker plot. And I think the writers recognize that his character has to be the catalyst for their defeat.
These kinds of considerations are the terms upon which I deal with the show for the most part. Not in a leading role of course.
>>71384655
I hate to break it to you...
>>71383038
does tormond get to bang Brienne?
sounds fucking stupid, stupid enough to be true
tl;dr t;bh fa;m
>>71383052
What's fucked up about this is that Jon hasn't learned shit from getting killed at Castle Black and still won't explain that the White Walkers are coming down and destroy them all if they don't join together. In fact Sansa should go take a trip beyond the wall by herself if she doesn't believe him.
>tfw D&D locate a random shitposter from 4chan and actually make the plot based off his retarded fanfiction.
life is suffering
>>71383038
That's bullshit but I believe it. It's just retarded enough to have tens of millions of dollars invested into it.
It's probably true
>>71383038
bit off subject, but I work in the industry and have had a indie feature produced and distributed which I co-wrote.
What are the odds of me pitching a sci-fi action show to HBO being successful?
I know it depends on the content, but do you think they are open to to that right now.
Also - wtf happened to Game of Thrones, just complete edgy SJW schlock now.
>>71384779
Is Dany's character that much more popular than Jon's? How can they even tell?
But if Jon dies by ending the WW that would be ok. Can he, at least, impregnate Arya first?
>>71384646
it's a retarded reason
>>71383038
>Varys dying
The true tragedy from this entire outcome.
>>71384674
They don't though. They say they want equality because you look bad if you say you want superiority, but use your common sense and ask yourself if you believe them.
>>71384674
I can't tell if you're trolling.
Let me just say that even if what you say is logical, it is logical only according to nonsense language in my line of work.
There are no millions of feminists.
There are thousands of feminists, I suppose tens of thousands of them probably. Doesn't matter.
What there ARE millions of is people that latch onto and identify with tokens of feminist BRANDING. That includes every dumb co-ed with a women's studies degree that can understand and speak the language of feminism in a limited fashion, but doesn't really have the ability to apply it to their concrete world in action or interpretation.
I don't know if feminist theory is true or real. I don't really care, I'm a realist. Feminists aren't real.
Feminism, like most ideologies, is defined, as depicted in the consumer world, by its ability to transfer feelings of catharsis to tired wage slaves.
Feminism+capitalism=validation and empowerment. There are similar formulas for other interest groups.
Humans are animals, and one of the reasons I love this show, even when I know much of what is going to happen, is that the show story has a pretty decent grasp of that concept, and what it lacks in that regard, I forgive, because I know the people that make the show grasp it even better.
>>71384960
>>71384776
>all of the kings get to be married
>queen ends up alone
How not surprising? Does she get lovers, at least?
>>71384452
So it's impossible for a showhand to browse mongolian fish markets and pick up meme phrases during their free time?
>>71383038
>Writers have not decided for certain if Euron will have the dragonhorn in the show
but he doesn't have it in the books, he gave it to Victarion
>>71384907
I don't work for HBO, so I couldn't tell you, but I will tell you from what I know of companies like HBO it's not a matter of what they want right now so much as how many different kinds of what they want they already have. They have writers on retainer and staff, they have indies making pitches like what you'd want to do, they have options on existing stories in every genre and they have people who know people using nepotism and probably sexual favors to get their stories read.
It would come down to your experience and connections.
As fellow human, I would say fight for your dream if it's really your dream, but as someone who's not clueless I would advise you not to put all your eggs in this basket while you do.
>>71385048
Not a showhand. But your point is well taken.
>>71385075
Something happened in the books that isn't happening in the show????
>>71385010
>all of the kings
Not Jon Snow
Also she's probably gonna marry, maybe some new character in the last seasons idk
meanwhile poor jon will probably die alone in the cold
Such a shitpost. You've made me unsubscribe from this subreddit.
>>71384674
>But feminists and SJWs want EQUALITY. That is the true point of those movements
kek
>>71383398
>Ned's legacy to be voided by Winterfell being ruled by someone not of his direct line.
He is still half stark
>>71384994
Just explain how it all turned into SJW shit int a few seasons.
>>71384994
I get what you are saying, because it is true. Yet, I also believe that people do like the show, because it's a historical war drama/soap opera. It appeals heavily to both genders. If it was just about the feminism themes then Sucker Punch would have done much better, but it didn't.
Also, just as men will forgive a beautiful woman women will also forgive a beautiful man. So if people's two favorite characters hooked up and worked together no one is gonna be mad even if they are related.
>>71385279
>Lyanna Stark
>Ned Stark's direct line
>>71384274
It would be more ironic if the only real son Tywin had was Tyrion. He shunned his only real son while he loved his cucked ones.
>>71385279
It's because Sansa is an asshole.
>>71385352
That would be great.
>>71385323
would they still forgive a beautiful man for tempering his Lighbringer 2.0 in Dany's heart?
Although for bullshit reasons I doubt they would ever do something that cool, it'll just be dragons blasting the ghouls i mean wights and Bran becomes the new peaceful Lich King i mean Night King, everyone lives happily ever after kinda bullshit
>>71385316
Have you ever heard of a show called Rome? This is not a rhetorical question. It will factor into my explanation.
>>71385323
It's my professional opinion that Sucker Punch failed because it had no real strengths other than glossy production values.
I've made no claim that GoT succeeds on the strength of its feminist/SJW themes, plot points, or characters.
HBO properties tend to succeed on the strength of their viral appeal. Not just traction, but appeal. Controversy makes things go viral. Good art also goes viral. Going viral makes things go viral.
All three of these things are key for success. Plebs need to sense a topical framing in the subject matter otherwise they'll get lost in the details. But plebs also need thought leaders to validate their interest in a property. Thought leaders need to think that what they're interacting with is 'authentic', ie good art. And everyone needs to feel like they're in on it if everyone else is in on it.
>>71385279
Also, like I've said it's as much because he's half targ as anything else.
So why are you looking for a new job OP?
Also, what are the chances of this changing? Are they trying to hash out the plot points or are they already working on the drafts? How are the ratings this season?
>>71385534
Yes, watched a random few episodes of Rome years ago.
>>71385517
It depends how they handle that one. Like if she chose to sacrifice herself to save people and then sword wielded died as well afterwards.
>>71385534
Not him but what about Rome ? I'm rewatching S1 with a friend who didnt see it and i know its like a 10yo show but i find it surprisingly empty of sjw bullshit especially compared to game of thrones
>>71385142
Absolutely.
Thanks for the advice I wonder what you actually do...
And this is about as much as I figured. Which is kind of disappointing, but at least I've been building my connections.
I intend to fight, I likely am going to pursue directing a indie film first.
>>71385534
>HBO properties tend to succeed on the strength of their viral appeal. Not just traction, but appeal. Controversy makes things go viral. Good art also goes viral. Going viral makes things go viral.
>All three of these things are key for success. Plebs need to sense a topical framing in the subject matter otherwise they'll get lost in the details. But plebs also need thought leaders to validate their interest in a property. Thought leaders need to think that what they're interacting with is 'authentic', ie good art. And everyone needs to feel like they're in on it if everyone else is in on it.
Can you be more specific and/or provide examples, please?
>>71385641
>10 year old show
That is your answer right there.
>>71385553
Like I said, some of this will definitely change, but I've got pretty good hold on what the forks in the road are. What I've discussed with all of you will give you pretty sturdy ability to anticipate what's going to happen and impress your meat world friends or at least to not be taken off guard if you don't have any friends.
I'm looking for a new job because they don't pay me enough for how fucking smart I am. 5 am typos notwithstanding.
>>71385602
>>71385641
Ok well, Rome failed because it couldn't cover its bottom line. And from a creative standpoint, it's bottom line was necessary to tell the story they wanted to tell. There weren't enough idiots watching. That's why any entertainment property fails.
Rome didn't cause the correct frequency of buzz, and so while a lot of people that on some level value historical meaning caught on, most people didn't, because most people are public school or parish school educated (read, learn what they know in school), and therefore they have no real appreciation for historical meaning.
Historical meaning is diluted by topical allusions to present day political and social affairs, but those allusions are valuable from many standpoints, including the standpoint of marketing. There are values beyond marketing which I'm sure some of you that are paying attention to are aware of but I won't discuss those because it's not my area of expertise.
HBO concluded from Rome that expensive properties cannot achieve on artistic merits alone. I don't agree with that assessment, but I'm beyond caring at this point. Tits and dragons, please.
>>71385644
Go for it, man. Hope it works out.
Part of me believes OP, but then when they throw in the memes and echoes the same SJW and feminism rhetoric that everyone else throws around here it throws me off.
>>71383052
so sansa is still an anoying bitch next season.goddamit
>>71385827
I'm not a /pol/lack if that's what you're worried about.
I just don't have a very optimistic view of human behavior, and I think if the postmodern proposition that humans create their own meaning is true, we are fucked. We don't have a very good track record.
>>71385819
How does HBO decide that? Are they basing it on viewers, sales of DVDs?
>>71385889
Maybe when you get your new job you will feel a little bit better?
>>71385939
nothing will make an INTJ rationalist feel better. Maybe drugs.
>>71385827
There's a reason people throw around that rhetoric anon : it's the truth
Also why does this make you think op is a less credible hbo/marketing/consumer polling/whatever employee ?
Even if you would believe him a lesser person for his political opinions (shame on you btw) that wouldn't in the slightest make him any less competent at being an employee
>>71385830
Sansa being a stupid piece of shit offends me more than anything else on the show. You would think that the fact that her father not saying shit about Jon all this time means he was trying to protect him?! Like her dad knew that Jon was a Targ and even accepted him. At the end of the day Sansa is still a selfish brat. Also, Sansa is still being manipulated by Littlefinger.
I just wish Arya was the one to kill Sansa.
>>71385893
Modern methods are numerous. I've mentioned a few.
DVD sales is different. Rome is a successful monetary property long view. But when you're running an entertainment company, branding is essential, and that's especially true for a company like HBO.
No one remembers what studio made the movie they went to X amount of years ago. Even we'll forget who made Lord of the Rings 50 years from now. Rome is also a long term branding success. Retrospectively, everyone sees it as an artistic achievement, one of the seminal moments in the history of premium tv blah blah. "HBO makes premium TV!"
But at the time, it was a show only fanboys, upper middle class and upper class types and critics truly cared about. Not enough plebs.
It's pretty simple. That's bad short term branding because those people make up a fraction of your subscriber base. People watch TV shows to talk about them with their friends, classmates, coworkers. That's why we're here. TV is made to be talked about after it is enjoyed. If no one is talking about it, why would a pleb pay extra for half of an experience?
>>71385983
INTP actually. I've had a rough life though, by INTP standards, so I have a lot of INTJ tendencies.
>>71386008
First off, anyone speaking in memes does look suspicious no matter what. The fact that you don't think so is more of a reflection of out of touch with reality you are. Most anons here would think the same way.
But OP already confirmed that he isn't a /pol/lack.
>judging a person and art by and for their politics
This is what people do though. Please stop acting so new.
>>71383038
OP is probably one of the cast whos character got killed and he is mad. Not sure if its Natalie or the guy who played Frey old man
Fuck, btw guys I think I forgot to mention
>Writers are also considering having Arya arrive before Sansa's betrayal of Jon, and having her use the tools of deception that Baelish taught her to lead him into a trap, and have his death be a parallel of Ned Stark's death, where Baelish is cornered suddenly at what he thinks is the apex of his scheming. This is more likely from what I know.
If this happens, the significance is that Arya will tell Sansa the true role Baelish had in Ned's death. Jon wouldn't die, Sansa would finger the finger.
>>71383398
If op has truely delivered
Lyanna was neds sister though, Jon is still directly related to ned even though he's half stark.
Fucking hell the writers seriously can't be that incompetent. If Jon wasn't even related to Sansa in any way at all I still don't believe she'd be able to become manipulated by CIA, they grew up together and Jon sheltered her from Ramsey, Jon even gave her the honour of killing Ramsey after he slaughtered hundreds of jons men.
10/10'will drop if Sansa transcends beyond full retard.
>>71386116
>Modern methods are numerous. I've mentioned a few.
I don't recall?
>only the elites can appreciate Rome
Arent works of art that can touch more people better than those that can only reach out to a few?
how do jon and dany first meet up
>>71383091
Cogman you madman
>>71386304
considering she's female i can buy it 100%
>>71386116
Kinda OT but as I am fucking sick of modern televison (last 6-10 years, capeshit etc.) I feel like this postmodernist big data approach applied on consumer products is going to crumble upon itself.
Eventually even plebs became tired of this shit imo. (And I do feel like the GoT will be the turning point in this matter). But maybe I am wrong and we all be fucking robots.
>>71386281
>If this happens, the significance is that arya will tell Sansa the true role Baelish had in Ned's death. Jon wouldn't die, Sansa would finger the finger.
I would rather this. The other alternative makes Sansa too much a retard. I don't mind a squabble and Sansa contemplating it, but having her use that energy to be rid of LittleFinger should be her main focus.
>>71383959
>>71384286
this is so irritating btw, dany did nothing for that throne
>sit in your pyramid for 5 seasons
>get the throne handed to her on a silver platter
meanwhile jon got
>almost killed countless times
>actually got killed once
>came back from the dead
>fought off a wildling army
>then a zombie army
>then a bolton army
>lost his qt gf
>saved the wall
>saved his people
>saved the whole world like a dozen times already
>he'll probably just get stabbed by littlefinger in a season finale
fuck this world
Didn't Rob write a will naming Jon his heir though?
>>71386281
G8 thread.Either OP is legit or is a hell of a roleplayer.
Please close some lose ends:
- How does Dorne ends
- Jorah comes back?
- Do they mention Gendry/Benjen again
- Bronn dies, right?
- Why are the writers so reluctant to end DANYWINSLOL? Even normies are getting annoyed now
>>71386475
Yeah, this. Jon earned it more, but both him and Dany suck at ruling.
How does the wall gets tear down?
desight i know ur here
In the books all the Targ bastards have platinum hair. It is said "the seed is strong".
So how the fuck is Jon a targ?
You know, I am willing to bet that as long as some women are in power most people would not even be mad if Jon made it to the throne.
Wow, that was fast. Not posting anymore to ensure my safety
Any other posts arent me
>>71383091
>Jon and Dany will sort out their pettier initial difference and begin considering eachother for marriage
>there's a lot of consideration of Jon and Tyrion
>it's probably going to be revealed that Tyrion is a Targ and there's a lot of concern that incest will be a big turn off to viewers
Has everyone forgotten that Jon is actually Dany's nephew?
>>71386690
Thank you.
>>71386304
I don't Sansa will actually betray him. Like I said, it's the less likely possibility. More likely is that they push the viewers to the brink and it ends with Sansa killing Baelish somehow, turning his tricks against him.
This would be an ultra code black secret (like possibly even CIA's actor probably wouldn't know till the end if it were the case), but I think it would be awesome if the audience were led to believe that Sansa was working with Littlefinger to betray Jon, but really Jon and Sansa are working together the whole time, and there's a big reveal at the end and CIA gets the world's worst gut check before his protege and beloved claps him in irons and Jon beheads him.
>>71386324
>I don't recall
Metadata, survey data, social media monitoring, focus groups, stat analysis of subscriber data etcs.,
>>71386324
I'd tend to agree. You were asking me why companies cram their entertainment properties full of pleb tier SJW pandering.
>>71386448
I agree, I don't think this model is sustainable. I'm optimistic about art, not humanity. I think art is one of the things that makes humanity better than itself. "Beauty will save the world." GoT succeeds on its aesthetic merits. But it's growth may have been accelerated by SJW pandering, idk. No way to track as there's not a true control and I don't think there can be in the context.
But I think you're right. My work also involves politics on occasion, and Trump, like him or not, is proving that data isn't everything, if you know anything about the Freedom Partners Network.
There's hope for the concept of real messages (vs. signals)
>>71386468
Same, bruh.
>>71386539
Don't know the answers to any of those questions.
>>71386690
Check out this troll.
>>71386733
Dany and Jon won't know that when they meet.
>>71386733
Yeah, because no royal at that time ever married their relative before.
That being said Tyrion is her half brother. Jon would be a better choice in that regard.
>>71386539
Wait, actually they do mention Gendry again, but I don't know if that means he comes back.
And solely as a viewer, of course Jorah comes back.
>>71386783
>This would be an ultra code black secret (like possibly even CIA's actor probably wouldn't know till the end if it were the case), but I think it would be awesome if the audience were led to believe that Sansa was working with Littlefinger to betray Jon, but really Jon and Sansa are working together the whole time, and there's a big reveal at the end and CIA gets the world's worst gut check before his protege and beloved claps him in irons and Jon beheads him.
Me too. This would a much better alternative to Sansa ignoring her development and acting as someone else's puppet. Even if Jon isn't her brother he's still family.
>>71386783
>Dany and Jon won't know that when they meet.
I hope that they fuck before finding that out.
How long have you been working in the show? Can you tell us more about the gradual changes over the years, like for example with SJWs took over and now there is no nudity at all
Also, how are they going to defeat the white walkers
>>71383038
>>71383052
>>71383072
>>71383091
it was pretty good up until you went full retard with sansa killing jon and him being resurrected again
>>71386997
Did you forget to change your name?
>>71386961
>jon just got freed of celibacy vows and had enough time to get over his dead girlfriend
>dany is a major slut
I can see this happening.
>>71387041
That's not me.
>>71387041
In the end, we are all Jews
>>71387072
Yes I am
>>71387077
Well, this faggot ruined it, but luckily I think most of the real questions were answered. Night night.
Jews are dank
>>71387109
>I messed up once so now im pretending to ragequit
Everyone knows youre a fucking faggot liar since the very OP
Wait, so what of Jorah, Brienne and motherufucking Bronn?
Please tell me Brienne dies
Please, even lie to me if you must
>>71387206
she ain't ded you stupid nigga
>>71387206
Brienne dies anon.
Squashed by the Dead Mountain.
>>71383072
>>71383091
That sounds fucking ridiculously shit. There is no point to watching this after this season. If any of what you say is true then fuck got for good.
Implying i'll stick around for such a shitty ending.
>>71387147
>>71387206
She is Jaimes nissa nissa.
>OP quitted because he is such a fucking retard of not knowing how to make a trip
>>71386997
>How long have you been working in the show? Can you tell us more about the gradual changes over the years, like for example with SJWs took over and now there is no nudity at all
>Also, how are they going to defeat the white walkers
I would like an answer to this. Even is it was a plant question by OP to roleplay that went wrong
>>71386228
>art isn't used to push politics
good goy
>>71387307
False Jew btfo
>>71387393
OP just posted proof there's someone else namefagging.
>>71387402
Art is politics. What in my post led you to believe I thought otherwise?
>>71386783
>But I think you're right. My work also involves politics on occasion, and Trump, like him or not, is proving that data isn't everything, if you know anything about the Freedom Partners Network.
>There's hope for the concept of real messages (vs. signals)
ty for answer
Any journals you subscribe to? Seem like it might interest me
>>71387447
Cool. My whole point is that I dont care who wrote it. I want more answers
By the way, is the wall coming down?
>>71387447
I wouldn't believe him
>>71387447
Both posters wrote in different ways. It was easy to tell?
>>71383091
god f asha dies at her coronation sjw will go crazy
>>71387544
I would actually love it so much. It would be S3/S1-worthy
Remember when deaths were surprising?
In previous seasons, I would just see this for the nonsense that it is and move on. After Season 5 and 6 though, this is now perfectly plausible to me.
Kings landing uses wildfire to solve all it's problems. I wonder the Dany will walk through that shit.
So Dany gets the throne? Fucking dropped. Bitch does nothing, gets free shit left and right. Btw if People have a problem with Jon ruling in the north because he's half a targ. How the fuck do they accept a full blown targ on the throne?
Would be better if the north fights the foreign invaders. North and the others under the commandant of bran versus the queen of eyebrows.
>>71387640
By the time Dany would get on the throne she would have saved them, no?
what the hell happened to aegon ? is he not in the show ?
he'd literally tie up every loose end all by himself
or did they say he wouldn't be in the show ? i haven't been following much
what happens to the mountain?
Cant believe youre such idiots. Thanks for the (yous) faggots
>feel sorry for the people who really fell for it tbqh
I love Sansa I don't want her to die
>>71383052
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>>71387640
If this ends up being Dany vs Jon i really hope Jon wins
He's the only real human bean on this show and actually a real hero
Fuck dany
never gonna happen tho, dany always wins
>>71386783
Id accept that, that is half quality,
HOWEVER
If sansa actually fucking goes through with it and kills azor ahai through her stupidity then dropped.
>>71387640
I thought that north has always been bitchy towards south.
The only way they'd feel content about the throne is if a Stark sat on it, and even then they'd think of southeners as a joke.
Thanks OP.
I am not a huge fan of Jon dying while Dany lives, at all. I hope that they reconsider this. I also think having Jon die again only to be brought back to life again is silly. If he dies one more time it should be for good.
