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I enjoyed the episode. Fight me.

Previous:>>71044721
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>1080p BATV rips looks great from ep 1 - 8
>ep 9 looks like a shitty 480p upscale with tons of artifacting
>it's the most important ep of the season

WHY

ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>71045998
10/10 episode
flawless

this is why people watch television
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It was fucking epic. Battle scene was one of the best scenes in TV history.
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What is CIA up to?
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Post webm of cavalry clash pls
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Yes yes, great battle scene, great battle scene

HOWEVER

it's time to discuss the next episode - Highgarden trials
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Schaub
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>Daily reminder: with each episode we are closer to inevitable, official and 100% confirmed GoT ending
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First for Kinvara, High Priestess of the Red Temple of Volantis, the Flame of Truth, the Light of Wisdom, and First Servant of the Lord of Light. For the thread is dank and full of memes.
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>>71045998
SMUGLEESI EDITION
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So how many north houses are left now?

Boltons, Karstarks and Umbers are pretty much wiped out, right?
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>Danny is pleasantly surprised and smiles when Yara mentions Euron's big cock
CUTE
U
T
E
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>>71046049
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what was the point of him finding the deer?
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>>71046060
>Salt Queen

IT'S IRON QUEEN DUMB NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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A mistreated dog will kill its master. These aren't well trained dogs.
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nth for Jaime going full Tywin on the Freys next episode
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>Ramsay knows Jon and his army have set up defensively, does his thing with Rickon
>Jon DOESN'T go full retard, heads back to his army
>Suddenly Ramsay's army is being hit by what appear to be ballista bolts, but they can't see what from
>Unwilling to retreat and look weak, Ramsay makes his attack
>is met with resistance, but his push starts to go well as the "ballista" is forced to stop lest it fire into its own men
>Ramsay feeling like the smuggest motherfucker in the universe as he watches a phalanx drive back the wildlings who are now taking heavy casualties
>Push suddenly stops, his soldiers start to back off uneasily
>His smile evaporates as Wun Wun, covered in makeshift wooden armor and wielding half a tree as a weapon emerges from the forest, backed by Mormont's meager cavalry
>Tide quickly turns, retreat is ordered while Ramsay orders arrow volleys on the advancing giant, killing many of his own men
>Karstark expresses disgust and contempt at Ramsay for this, begins to take his leave when horns are heard
>It's the Vale army
>Ramsay retreats to the castle as his army is forced into a rout, Jon in pursuit with Ghost
>Winterfell garrison is quick to surrender after Wun Wun breaks into the gate, the soldiers practically handing Ramsay over to Jon
>Jon takes down bow wielding Ramsay and the rest goes as normal

THERE

RATE MY ARMCHAIR REVISION
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>>71045998
Why didnt Wun Wun just walked through the line and break their formation exactly like the cavalery did. Seemed perfectly possible. Even though the kinematography was great, the writing was still shit as usual.
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>>71046027
>pirating

I hope you realize that if you legally download GoT you have zero right to ever criticize the quality.
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So how many men does Jon and Sansa's army have now?

Ramsay's army outnumbered Jon and Sansa's by 2:1, 6,000 against 3,000.

If Sansa says no to Petyr fucking and owning her vagina, what will happen?

How can she even say no?
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can Bran make kids and keep the Starks from going extinct?
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>>71046097
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>71045998
>>71046093

YOU JUST KNOW
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>>71046027
so that's why they removed the 1080p from my private tracker

had to go with 720
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>No arrow screens on either sides
Wrong
>Firing on your own troops (The wealthiest, most skilled troops)
Wrong
>Leather vambraces
Wrong
>Studded leather
Wrong
>Cav. charging into cav. without using polearms for the initial charge
Wrong
>Nobody shield walling until they run out of arrows
Wrong
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why didnt rickon watch ramsay while running and every time ramsay fires an arrow he changes directions? why didnt he hife behind the corsses until jon came?
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>>71046097
He's gonna kill Melly Sanders.
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who would win in a fight

>Ramsey's 20 good men
or
>Ramsey's 6000 men
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>>71046122
some bookfags claim no but it's impossible to tell
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>>71046050
I'd trial her high gardens
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>>71046111
Pretty good, too bad Jon is retarded at commanding armies it seems.
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>>71046050

>highgarden trial

it will be held in the sept you dumb coon
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>>71046097
you started watching GOT from s6?
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that tormund fight looked more like the two of them were fucking in a moshpit
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>>71046030
I was actually looking forward to summer this year.
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>>71046097
he knows about shireen
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I would like Dany if they wrote it so she was flawed. She plays the power hungry bitch okay(ish). It is the mary-sue bullshit that annoys.
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>>71045998
>>71046111

The point of the episode was that Jon is the retard, while Sansa and Ramsay are the smarties.

Ramsay's battle plan was top notch.
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>>71046060
this is going to be the show ending 100%
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Wun Wun could've mowed the army like a fucking lawn. All he would've needed was a big fucking shield. He could just pushed them with the shield and smush and crush and kill them with ease. They wouldn't be able to do fucking shit.

Bullshit excuse to kill the giant because the hack writers know there isn't really any physical threat if he's alive other than dragons burning him.
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>>71046097
he gets mad as fuck about it in the next episode, it was in the trailer for episode 10
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>>71046161
lurk more
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>>71046115
>legally

You fucked it up family.

>>71046141
Rickon is obviouslt autistic.
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>>71046060
Post YFW based George intervenes and has based Euron kill literally every single female stronk woman in the show except for Cersei because she's a cunt.
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>>71046138
>so that's why they removed the 1080p from my private tracker

same thing happened to me. w-what tracker, anon?
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>>71046145
oh yeah, he wasn't present when they burned her.
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>>71046113
Maybe he didn't want to die?
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>All that fanfiction about Rickon gathering a tribe of cannibals who ride unicorns
>nah he was chilling down the road for 2 years
>Varys/Lannister fucking spies never found him
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>>71046070
>Redbowl when?
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>>71046027
>mfw HBO nordic with 1 month free trial
>the last 4 episodes for free top quality
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>>71046115
>legally

You fucked it up family.

>>71046141
Rickon is obviously autistic.
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>>71046111
>Karstark expresses disgust and contempt at Ramsay for this, begins to take his leave when horns are heard

Change Karstar for Smalljon, and it's all good.
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>>71046060
>Daenerys
True
>Sansa
No, Jon IS the warden of the north.
>Yara
I believe she will die and Theon will grow a pair (not literally) and pledge allegiance to the Starks
>Margaery for warden of the south.
Either her or Loras, Both will appease to normies though, but something tells me high garden will fall in an spectacular fashion.
>Queensgard
That would be Mormont
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If I was that damn giant id have thrown horses at their barriers
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>>71046103
its proper title
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>>71046104
Exactly. They have no other training than "EAT THE RUNNING THING" and "GET REALLY HUNGRY AND MAD AND THEN EAT THING I THROW IN HERE WITH YOU"

Ramsay wasn't a fucking dog whisperer. His dogs weren't loyal to anything other than meat. He made them that way.
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>>71046183
Yeah, I was thinking he could have even barrel rolled the enemy army to death.

It's huge a waste of such a military asset the way he was handled..
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>>71046111
Good tactics sure please my brain but, the episode was pretty exciting the way it went. I can excuse shoddy tactics for this particular episode.
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>>71046027
BATV are generally shit.

Wait for DON's hybrid
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What's up with Dany declaring that her father was evil?

She's supposed to be writing the wrong of her family being usurped...

By admitting that he was an evil person she's not exactly making a logical claim for her own return beyond divine right.

And beyond that, I thought she deluded anyway and thought all Targs were great rulers.

Did that stand out to anyone else?
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>>71046145
Nope. Melisandre will live to see Arya again. She will also help set up Jon with Dany.
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>Sophie does a great smug bitch, but a shitty damsel in distress.
>Emilia Clarke is the opposite.
How could they fuck up this bad?
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The only thing that annoyed me was Rickon's run. Why not run in spirals? It's not perfect but it's better than running straight!
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>>71046199
He seemed pretty intent on dying what with showing up for a battle with naught but his bare fucking hands.

Seriously he'll pick up a burning log to fight skeletons in a retreat but against a disciplined army, he goes unarmed?
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What will happened at the Red Wedding 2.0â„¢?
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>>71046222
I fucking double posted.

Kill me now tbqh
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>>71046199
So instead of just taking a walk through the helpless soldier, he though it would be a better idea to get poked by pikes?

Ok Dabid.
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>>71046084
Mormont, Mazin and Hornwood are also pretty wiped out.
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>>71045998
They should have given Ramsay a better final line.

Something like:

S: "Your worlds will disappear"
R: "The scars I left upon you never will."
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>>71046111
As good as your trips.
Too bad the shows directors are worse
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>rickon reduced to nothing but a plot device that didnt even have that big of an impact
fucking disgusting
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Why didnt Wun Wun just start jumping on the phalanx when they were surrounded?
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So in the end, all that girl power for Sansa went to shit because she still had to beg for help from a white male and will probably have to spread her legs for him as a reward.
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>>71046194
torrentday
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>>71046141
Fear, you dumbass armchair quarterback.
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>>71046103
you sound a bit irony, friend
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>>71046175
>Ramsay's battle plan was top notch.
>Engage with cavarly
>Pincer with infantry

This is the most retarded tactic in history and this is why he got rekt in the end
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>>71046255
>Yara/Theon admit their father was shit
>They still want to avenge him and hate Euron for killing him and call him usurper even though he was chosen
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>I loved the man, but he had demons in his head
>no, not literal demons
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>>71046239
No, the title is "The Iron King/Queen"
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>>71046262
He was still probably a little scared of lots of spears going in him. Fear and courage are strange things. He probably thought he would be more useful the longer he survived too, that would have been a quick death and then the wildlings would be truly fucked.
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>>71046264
Jaime will redeem himself by rekting the Freys
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>>71046185

>hurr durr retard durr

go back to le lebbit
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>>71046138

I downloaded the 1080p version and it was literally the hold the door episode, I was fucking pissed. Not sure if it was a joke or what but maybe that's the "version" you got as well.
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>>71046261

It'd take longer, give Ramsay more time to shoot arrows at him
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yes yes well done ramsay well done

HOWEVER
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>>71046289
because he wouldn't have been that strong

muscle strength is area/volume, and since volume is ^3 and area is ^2, he's barely stronger than a normal man
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>>71046261
Even if he made to jon he wouldn't have survived the rest of the battle no matter how it went down.
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>>71046268
That would have happened if he'd try to break the lines. No need to call me dabid, just having a friendly chat.
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>>71046232
>and pledge allegiance to the Starks

and he will be beheaded. jon has had a lot of practice.
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>>71046319
What will his quip?
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>>71046282
thank Jesus you aren't a writer
this is on par with "no, I came to die for it"
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>>71046282
D&D may be hacks, but they aren't thirteen years old.
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>>71046308
Dramatically different situations mate.
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This was the fanserviceist episode I've ever seen

I liked it a lot
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>>71046288
Do you know what shaggydog means you mong?
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wait, we were supposed to root for jon?? what???
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>>71046354
>D&D may be hacks, but they aren't thirteen years old.
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There is something extremely enjoyable about watching cavalry cut through infantry lines.

I can't quite put my finger on it.
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>people think lannisters will slaughter the freys

why?
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>>71046379
you root for dany only manpig
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>>71046307
The core of his plan was to get Jon's army to charge and leave their defended positions. That worked.

>Pincer with infantry
Literal hoplite/roman tactic
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>>71046308
>Euron was choosen by Ironborn people to lead them
>Danny calls him usurper
le feminist queen everyone
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How the fuck did nobody notice the entire Vale army marching through all of the North? There is literally no was they could have surprised ramsay.
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anyone got a webm of jon beating ramsey
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Why didn't he just fight Jon?
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>>71046393
I root for Littlefinger
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nth for danny "the baneman" d
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So how many men does Jon and Sansa's army have now?

Ramsay's army outnumbered Jon and Sansa's by 2:1, 6,000 against 3,000.

How can Sansa say no to what Littlefinger actually want?
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I just want Arya to show up in Winterfell and beat Sansa to a pulp. Save your beloved Jon from the claws of that evil wench, Arya.
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>>71046140
Jon's cavalry did use polearms
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Ramsay's death was anticlimatic. I wanted to see him suffer more.
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>>71046414
>the entire Vale army marching through all of the North?
They flew in on CIA's plane
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>>71046414
Don't shit on CIA, he's our lad.
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>>71046389
Because they try to make sense of the scene from the preview. What they fail to take into their calculations is that Blackfish's death was only offscreen.
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preston
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>jon's plan is to hold position and have ramsay's forces come to him
>he immediately breaks ranks and has his smaller force attack a superior one

I just don't understand
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>>71046414
the same way that tyrion doesn't hear about the other cities mobilizing a fleet to attack mereen
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>>71046351
>>71046354
>not noticing Edgelord.jpg
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>Hey, Ramsay. Did you see Regis this morning?
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You are crossing a very long battlefield. What do you do?
A:Sprint full on at the enemy with the rest of your men
B: Sprint by yourself right into the charging enemy Calvary
C: March in formations

Which one do you pick?
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So bad writing or did Sansa intentionally send Jon's men to the slaughter?
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>>71046414
They were camped at Moat Cailin for weeks - LF says so in ep 4. Apparently he just ignored an entire army on his doorstep.
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so will the north team up with dany because it would be hella epic even though it makes no sense?
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>>71046418
because he's a coward who can only shoot gay arrows
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>>71046418
He knew that he'd lose. He didn't receive the same training as Jon.
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>3000 men armed with basic weapons and no armor vs 6000 men armed with well kept weapons and a shit ton of armor
>3000 men charge into a volley of archer fire
>3000 men reduced to approx 500 after archer fire and calvary charge
>500 encircled by heavily armed soldiers and stabbed with spears
>500 then flanked by infantry men from behind
>still enough time for vale calavary to save them

dunno the exact numbers but thats what it looks like.

wouldn't the bolton army that encircled jons forces just send the rear line of troops into the circle to obliterate jons infantry force and then pull back the spearmen and set up to counter the calavary forces charging at them?

it seems this whole battle was plot armor/10 and it really pisses me off.
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>>71046389
Arya will turn up and kill them all, shouting I'M THE QUEEN OF THE RIVERLANDS NOW. ALL MEN MUST DIE.

And then Dany, Yara, and Sansa show up and they jump in the air on a freeze-frame. Cut to credits.
AND WHO ARE YOU
THE SHITLORD SAID

Written for Television by David memes memes etc absolutely epic.
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>>71046347
Nothing would have happen to him. It would take 2-3 steps to get on the other side. He would get some scrathes on his legs at worst.

Literally anything would be better than standing there getting poked.
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>>71046435
>punched to shit and eaten alive by dogs while smug ass Sansa looks on

It was a pretty decent death.
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>>71046140

The worst part is Ramsay started out so well with baiting them to come forward when their whole plan was to defend. And then Ramsay throws it all away. It literally makes no sense to kill off your own number advantage.
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Nobody cares about little Rickon death?

As the youngest member of my family too
I feel sad
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>>71046459
Of course it's bad writing. There is no reason at all to believe the show would be intricate regarding something like this.
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>>71046471
Only in this episode. He willing fought the ironborn shirtless in season 4.
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>>71046389
To seal an alliance with the North to fight either Daenerys and Dorne together or the Night King. Salsa will demand this.
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>>71046414
CIA technology i guess
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>>71046478
Fair enough. At least we saw another head-pulling lmao.
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>ramsay hits a moving target from 10billion ft away
>literally steps away from jon
i mean come on
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>>71046389
Because they get pitted against each other by a third party.The Lannisters over power the Freys and butcher them.
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>>71046418
Check them
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>>71046308
They're ironborn, they dont give a fuck.
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>>71046459
She wanted him to wait so the Vale's army could arrive but for some reason she can't just tell her "AYO BASTARD CHILL THE FUCK OUT MY MAN CIA GUY IS GONNA WRECK THESE NERDS".
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I wish they could have done something like a parallel battle with meereen.
Jon loses in the beginning and dany appears to be winning. But as the vale army arrives to save jon something horrible happens to dany.
It just doesn't feel natural coming out of an episode pleased with everything, I can't take it.
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>>71046496
Considering he did jack shit for the ENTIRE series it's perfectly understandable.
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>>71046445
Jon went full retard per Ramsay's plan, that's the point. That's what Sansa warned him about when she said "Don't do what Ramsay wants you to do".
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>>71046505
I'm surprised more people aren't annoyed about this. Ramsay is literally a god tier archer apparently.
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>>71046113
Why didn't he start picking up the dead horses and throw them at the army before they had a chance to circle them?
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>>71046500
i really really really doubt they will ally with the North, the north is basically Stark and Mormont now
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>>71046505
Firing one arrow at a time? Jesus christ. Ramsay is betting his entire plan on making that shot.
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I've given up expecting the same political intrigue of S1. I watch this for le hella fuc*ing epic battles and dragons and le clever Tyrion. I enjoy the show, but I know I shouldn't.
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>>71046418
Why didn't he just fight Jaime in a 1v1?
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>>71046459
>>71046497
>>71046517
if they had a larger force from the start, some of ramsay's men might have fled if the battle turned

sansa is literally on par with ramsay firing on his own
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>>71046477
Seems legit.
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>>71046111
No the actual version is much better because it makes you lose all respect for Jon. That's what they were going for, right?...
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>>71046262
It's pretty clear that Wun Wun is a fucking downy

Can he even talk?
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>>71046525
So did I, but I knew they wouldn't.

Sounds like too much work. Sounds too hard.
>>
It was an enjoyable episode. But just before it, I went to reddit and the top post of reddit, not the GoT sub, but all of reddit, was a post saying it was the best 40 minutes of television that they had ever seen. It wasn't even top 5 GoT episodes so it was a bit disappointing to me.
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>>71046536
Can't hit Jon from a few meters away though.
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ramsay bolton was one of the biggest mary sues in the show and i'm glad he's finally dead

>unparalleled melee combatant (fights ironborn elite shirtless)
>flawless marksman
>fantastic commander
>never loses his cool
>always one step ahead
>manipulates people like it's nothing
>never faces any loyalty problems even though he skins people and killed off roose (who was probably well loved by his men due to him managing to find a way to prosper in and survive in the WoFK)
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>>71046459
We'll see, but the most you can expect is Jon going "Y u no trust me, Sansa?" No intricate betrayals and the like.
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Bastardbowl went better than expected but the whole Meereen shit had me wincing.

OTT female empowerment, obligatory cock joke, cliche and SUDDENLY IRONBORN.


Why didn't the giant just throw his men over the shieldwall?
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I don't remember, but did they show a Ramsay's forces in the field surrendering or did the Vale cut them all down?
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>>71046389
i guess the frey's incompetence at everything else than holding that fucking bridge over the river is useless or even 'damaging' in the long run for the Lannisters
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>yfw this is the comprehension of the average viewer
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What would he want to say to Ramsay
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>>71046498
He had to. There was no choice. He isn't a coward, but he's not stupid either.
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Why didn't Bolton just use a line of phalanx against the disoriented Starks and then flank them with cavalry? You know, instead of butchering his own cavalry. Seriously this battle was pure bloodshed on both sides.
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>>71046345
>Rips a man in half
>Punches through a fortified wooden gate
>Barely stronger than a normal man
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>>71046471
>>71046473
Jon has a cool sword too
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WHO OWNS THE NORTH?
WHO OWNS THE NORTH?
SHOW ME!
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>>71046496
boring ass character, shit actor, im happy he's dead desu
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>>71046536
Ramsay is god tier at everything. He's a fucking god of war in the show capable of doing anything.
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>>71046563
that's just reddit being reddit. those fucks get impressed by anything
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>>71046578
they all got slaughtered, only Ramsay survived at the end
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>>71046191
That was a good shot tbqh.
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>>71046570
He's the reason the battle never should have happened.

How the fuck does a guy like that hold an army together with no claim to the north and the shame of losing his wife hanging around his neck?
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>>71045998
Liked that track shot of Jon at the beginning of the battle and hated every scene with the smug Targaryen whore. Watching Wun2 die sucked.
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>>71045998
Who piled those corpses?
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anyone else think its sort of obvious they were trying to show that Jon is basically like achilles? Like the lord of light has him in his plans so it was impossible for him to be killed or hurt on the battlefield


like literally when the cavalry charge theres literally 0% chance he would'nt have just been cut down if he didnt have some impervious shield
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>Implying CIA wouldn't demand the North
What will Jon Snow do about it?
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>>71045998

I didn't watch the episode but did John just lose his entire army and was later saved by Littlefinger?
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>>71046191
the war was lost
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>>71046418
Ramsay outright calls Jon the finest swordsman in the North. Of course he wouldn't want to solo him.
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>>71045998
Post yfw the Iron King's niece tells you about his BIG COCK.
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>>71046476
>As Livy described, "So many thousands of Romans were dying... Some, whom their wounds, pinched by the morning cold, had roused, as they were rising up, covered with blood, from the midst of the heaps of slain, were overpowered by the enemy. Some were found with their heads plunged into the earth, which they had excavated; having thus, as it appeared, made pits for themselves, and having suffocated themselves."[2]:22.51 Cowley claims that nearly six hundred legionaries were slaughtered each minute until darkness brought an end to the bloodletting.[34] Only 14,000 Roman troops managed to escape, most of whom had cut their way through to the nearby town of Canusium.
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>>71046581
>pretty short
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Yes yes, well done Boltons, well done!

HOWEVER
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wtf was up with Sansa going full psycho and just being like "fuck rickon, that nigga dead"?

How was there not more of an outrage from Jon? I would've slapped that bitch around the tent.
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>>71046111
I thought Davos was gonna copy Hannibal's tactics at the battle of Cannae when he said something along the lines of having a weak centre and letting the boltons push through and get exposed on the flanks.
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>>71046536
hasn't that been established? he's big into hunting, that's why he has dogs, they used to hunt people, etc.

yeah still its gay as fuck, a bow does not have fucking pinpoint accuracy
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Why doesn't Melissandre just revive Rickon and Wun Wun?
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>>71046582
Chaosh ends now and Chaosh begins now
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>>71046583
He's clearly grinning when he enters the scene. He's enjoying himself. He thrives on death and danger. Except in this ep.
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>>71046183
>there isn't really any physical threat if he's alive other than dragons burning him.

Or you know, a ballista.
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>>71046300
fear would have made him realise how easy it would be to survive. he was basically set free but was unfortunately a plot device for jon so he died
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>>71045998
>Mfw have phobias about crowds because stampede deaths.
>That moment when the Wildlings panicked and their rush resulted to a crowb squeeze.
I was fucking scared to death of this episode.

And then you realized some ancient battles couldve gone this way. With all the squeezing and stampeding

Although using a mountain of dead to pin them was pretty retarded though.
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>>71046561
Giants speak (spoke?) the Old Tongue. They aren't moronic, but they aren't as intelligent as Humans. It makes sense that a race that relies on brute strength wouldn't develop intelligence in the way that human's had to.
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>>71046505
They got rid of Rickon the way they should, quickly, so the episode didn't have to drag the battle longer.
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>Symmetra: Teleporter Online!
>CIA has switched to General, was Advisor
>Wun Wun: MY ULTIMATE IS READY
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>>71046217

Blue(red) is the warmest colour style? I'm ok with this. They just need to keep their necklaces.
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>>71046627
THE TREATY SIGNED
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>>71046554
But Ramsay's men fleeing is a good thing. Or are you mocking the show for the retardation? Honestly I loved parts of the battle, especially the part where Jon is walking around in the carnage.
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>>71046457
Sprinting forward was the only way not to get impaled by a barrage of arrows you dumb cunt
>>
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>>71046111
>>71046175
>>71046558
If you can't sympahtize for Jon going full berserk, you don't have siblings. His personal objective was saving Rickon, not taking Winterfell.

Anyway, I enjoyed the part where he almost died in the ground on the battlefield. Watching it really affected me physically, I felt so bad and nervous
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>>71046488
I wanted Theon to teleport in and castrate him.
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WUN WUN CAN THROW FUCKING HORSES WHY DIDNT HE JUST SWEEP THAT WHOLE PHALANX REEEEEEEEEE
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>>71046097
HOW'D IT GET BURNED?!
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>>71046476
It was 2500 on Jon's side vs 6000 on Ramsay's side

Stannis must have really fucked up Ramsay if he had 5000 soldiers at the end of last season and only 6000 soldiers at the beginning of this season

But he was a fucking moron when it came to tactics, nobody slaughters all of their larger cavalry to kill a smaller cavalry force and some infantry

I'd say he slaughtered 3K of his cavalry to kill 1.5K of Jon's cavalry and some infantry, he then got lucky surrounding Jon's remaing soldiers, but only had infantry and got wrecked by the Vale cavalry
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>>71046623
That opening scene REALLY got the final fight off a bad start for me.

I probably would have enjoyed it, especially the drowning scene, if it didn't start with Jon Snow standing in the middle of cavalry charge and completely avoiding harm. Really annoying.
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>>71045998
Jon snow is worst leader. Can't believe how bad he fought there.
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>>71046149
More like 6020 dead men.
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>>71046639

Is this bait or are you so retarded you couldn't even listen to the explanation that they give in the same episode 20 minutes before?
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>>71046097
Rip in peace Melly
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>>71046496
If Sansa didn't give a shit then why should I?
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>>71046218
>Hbo nordic
>Top quality.

I don't attest to this statement.

Do remember to cancel your subscription though as they wont alert you of when you are nearly at the end of trial.
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>>71046664
Pretty much. Why didn't he throw the guy he took instead of tearing him apart? Looked like his power level conveniently dropped at some parts.
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>>71046659
>ending it right before the best part
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>>71046581
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>>71046093
i want to tell her i have big cock too now
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>>71046639
DELETE THIS

SHUT UP.
BURY HIM IN THE CRYPT QUICKLY.

D E L E T E T H I S
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>>71046656
i'm saying that if sansa got over herself and asked littlefinger for help earlier, the vale would have sent men earlier
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>>71046664
they had spears, nigga, remember what those did to dracarys?
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>>71046570
Why would anybody follow him after papa bolton kicked it? He's a bastard
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the real question is, why didn't the giant throw fucking corpses at the soldiers when the surrounded them? an easy way to break their ranks
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Britbong here, just watched the ep. That was so much better than anything this season, in every way, dialogue, directing, the shots but a few questinos

1.Why is Jon such a fucking idiot? He literally did exactly what Ramsey wanted him to do
2.Why the fuck didn't sansa say the knights of the vale were on their way? would have been able to change their battle plan in accordance and save so many lives
3.Did ramseys bow have ACOG scope?
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>>71046603

Wouldn't it make more sense to capture them? I mean, you have a giant zombie army coming and possible attacks from the Lannisters and Iron Born. A few thousand extra soldiers would be useful.
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>>71046505

I've seen those archers at medieval castle museum type things and they can hit heads at like 100ft over and over again but they're doing it every day at the same distance.

Does seem a bit far for a moving target, considering the arc that Ramsay's archers have to use to hit the same area.
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>>71046684
same bruh same
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>>71046191
really liked this shot honestly
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>>71046624
What can he do? He's a bastard.

CIA:
>Marry Sansa to Robin Arryn.
>Have her make a baby, heir to the Vale.
>BTFO Jon, because Sansa is the rightful heir to the North.
>Conquer the Riverlands, since with Edmure behind the bars, Sansa is the rightful heir to the Trident.
>Kill Robin Arryn.
>Marry Sansa.
>Now has THREE KINGDOMS OF THE NORTH to rule as the Regent Lord
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>>71046490
Oh god you people are autistic.
Ramsay wanted to kill Jon so bad he didn't care about anything else. Especially when Jon had embarrased him the day before before his lords.
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>>71046657
>he thinks they were in range of the arrows

Please go back to r/gameofthrones. They could have easily marched and saved their energy until they were within range of the archers and then have picked up the pace.
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Giant was so retarded in this fight that it was making me angry god damn. Is he too stupid to use tools of any kind? Even punches the gates open with his bare hands, what the hell.
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>>71046544
CIA is includes in the pack
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>>71045998

>I enjoyed the episode. Fight me.

Beating retards isnt fun.
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>>71046643
My point stands, he outnumbered the Iron Islanders and wasn't going to go down without fighting, but he still wanted to win. He's always been in control in the Show, that would but him at a severe disadvantage.
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Dr. Bolton, i'm House Arryn.
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>>71046659
>For Robb!
>For Rickon!
>For Wun Wun!
>For Shaggydog!
>For Winterfell!
>For Walda and the baby!
>For Catlyn!
>For Ned!
>For Greywind!
>For Lady!
>For Summer!
>For Hodor!
>For The North!
>For the Bannermen at the Red Wedding!
>For Stannis!
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>>71046232
>No, Jon IS the warden of the north.

hes not even a stark, after Rickons death Sansa is the heir

>I believe she will die
not going to happen in this show
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>>71046639
You can't just revive anyone, it's who the lord of light chooses.
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>>71046719
He could have charged through, lad. Should have just kicked them. The giant could have slaughtered the entire army on his own had he broken through the line.
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>>71046565

He did hit him everytime, Jon just used a shield to block the arrows. Did you actually pay attention?
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So now that Jon knows Sandra is a lying cunt, what going to happen. The had a talk right?

>You knew about this all along and didnt tell me?
>Yes

I bet nobody is going to comment on the fact that she lied to everyone and let people die way more than necessary, at all.
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>>71046586

He knew The Vale was coming to fuck his shit up so he thought he would go out with a bang and hurt the Starks by killing everyone that would side with Jon after Ramsay died.
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>>71046722
king officially made him a bolton

but still makes very little sense since northerners are made out to be very stubborn and stuck in the old ways then suddenly they get both their leaders backstabbed in a short time and they're all like "lol k"
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>>71046496
he grew up JUST'd, just like Bran, except Bran has cool powers

who cares
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MEEREEN BATTLE STATS

STRENGTH
>100 ships
>15 Sons of the Harpyie
vs
>city of Meereen
>3 dragons
>1000000 dothraki

CASUALTIES
>1 ship
>15 sons of the harpyie
and
>a couple of houses
>5 civilians
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>>71046445
>He doesn't command his forces to charge.

He rides out to save rickon because that's the fucking human thing to do. Rickon gets shafted, he can't turn back as the arrows are raining in on him, he accepts his death and draws his sword. His army comes in because tormund 'half cock' giantsbane has no tactical mind and calls the charge to save Jon which is stupid.
>Jon had no idea his army was coming in after him

Jon fucked himself up, Tormund fucked up the army.
+ Sansa was a smug bitch and had no idea what was going on and offered no real advice, but she's gonna claim credit. Even in a interview Sophie Turner said 'Sansa finally gets her hands dirty'
>fucking clean as shit, does nothing, just sends a letter

Fuck this show
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>NOTHIN PERSONNEL, MASTER
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>>71046745
oh yeah i forgot, assuming the Agent will fugg Sansa, otherwise he could take the north for himself and think out another master plan before the walkers arrive
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>>71046660
Which is what Sansa warned him not to do. He played right into Ramsay's plans.
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>>71046563
The death of Ramsay was my favorite moment of the show though. That shit was great.
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>>71046175

>killing your own army with friendly fire to support a cavalry which already outnumbers them
>top notch battle plan

What the fuck.
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>>71046097

Kutje botsen.
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>>71046740
What tools could he have used? A horse?
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>>71046736
What a master plan CIA has.
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watching the battle scene reminded me of my first time watching 300 in a theater. ebin adrenaline rush
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>>71046749
MY point still stands. He enjoys violence and bloodshed. There has never been any evidence provided that he is cowardly or frightened in any way.
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>>71046659
That was pretty fugging satisfying I have to admit. No shitty one-liners either, just a straight up beating.
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>>71046780
Almost like the show had a specific scene where they call for a surrender negoation and then trapped the leaders
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>>71045998
Ill fight you.

You know when you like the show, but then you watch it and you get that knot in your belly.
You watched couple of seasons, you read the books, you enjoyed it, but all of a sudden ,
almost every episode has couple of scenes where you get that knot, you cringe, you would just turn off the god damn thing but you are just too much invested.

Well, that is just your gut feeling telling you and that you outgrown (or it fell in quality you are accustomed to ) that show went to shit and who are you gonna listen,
your gut or some scribble on internet.

Jon Snow is not some Northern Savage bastard who grew strong against all odds, he looks like a person who lives in spa, Sansa is nothing like Cathlyn, Imp is not Imp, i dont even want to talk about Danny and Squidgirl (god damn, that one was hard to swallow),
only believable and good characters still alive are Jamie and Cersey , they act good(almost believable, they are not in constant influx of self-awareness) , also Ramsey is/was/will be good(Dont want to spoil) actor.
80% of main actors are just not up to the task of being those characters they-we been given.
Also, we have such CGI wonders as Warcraft teh Movie, even older ones(LOTR is now 15, nay, 16 years old, soon he will be able to drink and drive), so couple of dragons who are on par with Spyro and
couple of Total War: Medieval 2 battles just wont cut it for all the cringe people have to endure.
And , at the end, its not action in GOT that made it big, it's drama and "political intrigue, ruthlessness in pursuit of power".
Its as if G.R.R.M. gave his work to Michael Bay, they are literally Baying the GOT.
Fight me back, if you got with what?
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How can one man be so based?
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>>71046767

>Hm
>Seems like Jon raises his shield every time I hit him
>Maybe next time I should aim down just before I fire and hit his completely exposed torso
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>>71046748
Name your favourite shows now!
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>>71046505
>there's at least 10-15 seconds between Ramsay letting the arrow go and it hitting Rickon
>Rickon could've side stepped 5 inches and the arrow would've missed him
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>>71046726
>Why the fuck didn't sansa say the knights of the vale were on their way?
this is the gayest shit and I don't know why more people don't bring it up. Jon and Sansa have fucking arguments about needing more men why does she not just TELL HIM THE VALE WILL HELP THEM
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Literally the worst commander in the show. If he leads Westeros to war with the white walkers then they are fucked.
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>>71046191
Based Davos saves Kino once again
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>>71046122
paraplegics aren't sterile
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Why don't they just resurrect Rickon?
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>>71046836
the CIA trains their men well.
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>>71046798
This is what bothered me the most.

>Hey Jon don't forget, dont do the thing Ramsay wants
>Oh is this what you want Ramsay? I'm gonna do it.
>>
Are your bodies ready for Varys Targaryen next episode? Ready for Davos to kill Melisandre?
>>
was this the most grrlpower ep to date?

>Sansa and Dany both deus ex machina the wars the men lost, neither gets their hands dirty, both are extremely smug throughout
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>>71045998
Are you telling me

are you SERIOUSLY FUCKING TELLING ME

that this guy, a fucking GIANT, couldn't fucking break the shielded spearman circle, despite being THREE TIMES THEIR FUCKING SIZE, because he was afraid a few wooden pointy stabby-stabbies, instead of just fucking DIVEBOMBING INTO THE FUCKING LINES BECAUSE HE WEIGHS PROBABLY A FUCKING TON, AND NOONE HAS THE SLIGHEST FUCKING CHANCE OF STOPPING HIS MOMENTUM


Holy shit I mad.
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>>71046808
Yes, that's a great idea.
He could have thrown dead horses into the ranks to break the line and shatter spears. Nice thinking.

Oh, you were trying to disprove his point?
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>>71046581
I cant explain this.
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>>71046770
>y u no trast me sandra?
>Because you've never trusted me with your battle plans, male chauvinist pig.

That's the best continuation you can hope for.
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>>71046816
Only a moron would go to an unnecessary inevitable death. Ramsay wasn't a moron.
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>>71046706
seeing Wun-Wun stand their like a retard confirms the shit writing this show has.
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>>71046421
I know that Littlefinger is, like, the Lord Regent or whatever, but shouldn't the Knights of the Vale be flying the Arryn banner?
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>>71046307
This.

Centuries of warfare emplyoying exactly this tactic have led to you, infinitely more wise than even the most greatest battle commanders from the Chinese Dynasties and the Roman Empire to state that this tactic is the most retarded in history.

Thank you for your insight, we look forward to see your strategic prowess on an actual battlefield, O' great one.
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>>71046808
Before the battle, someone with like Davos could have helped him make something rudimentary out of wood, like a bigass shield. Failing that, a log?
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>>71046846
i didn't mean that, rather all the magic stuff that happened around him maybe made him shoot blanks?
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>JON YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RAMSAY, I LIVED WITH HIM WHY YOU DONT ASK ABOUT MY OPINION JON?
>Well then, what should we do?
>I DONT KNOW
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>>71046755
Jon's getting proclaim king in the north for some reason next episode.
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>>71046843
>implying he won't learn from his mistakes
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>>71046097
He pulls a stag's figure out of the ashes from the fire which killed the (supposedly) last child of house Baratheon. House Baratheon will rise from the ashes when a new stag is discovered
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>>71046049
>>71046094

I actually laughed at this. It felt like a video game.
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>>71046867
Yes to your question.
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>>71046836
> yfw he traded Sansa to Ramsay specifically because he'd be so cruel to her she would be willing to invite a Vale army to help defeat him, thus giving CIA a foothold for seizing the North
> yfw some autist is going to go on and on about CIA knowing every single aspect of Sansa's escape, when all he had to predict was that Ramsay would be cruel to Sansa, and that at some point someone in the North would try to take down Ramsay using Sansa's claim, both which were more or less inevitable
>>
>>71046643
Yeah...

I'm really annoyed them made him a pussy in this episode. I would have liked to see him grinning when the dogs attack him, at least at first. At least he was kind of smiling when Jon gave him the beat down.
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>>71046801
That's the thing, I didn't see any of his own die from the arrows. Bolton arrows are magic.
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>>71046582
I actually laughed out loud at that scene, CIA looking CIA as fuck
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>>71046785
I wouldn't say it was just a letter. They're absolutely in debt to fish fingers now
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>>71046882
Neck yourself tbqh

that is the Arryn banner for fuck's sake
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>>71046756
How do you know if you dont try?
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>>71046828
i kind of agree desu
it has become another generic series, still enjoyable.
no need to cry over spilled milk
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>>71046882
That's the Arryn banner anon, white falcon and crescent moon
>>
Lyanna is shit, Sansa is shit, Daenerys is shit, Yara is shit

You were too good for this series, Ramsay
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>>71046866
Him not wanting to get speared is believable.

Him not having a fucking giant tree trunk club is not.
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>>71046737

If he wanted to kill Jon, he could've just like, won the battle instead of throwing it away.
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>>71046828
I agree. It was a creeping sensation for me as the show began to get shit in season 4. The season 5 happened and I was thrown on my ass by how bad it was.

The battle was good, but the tactics were pretty terrible, the ending predictable and the political reasoning behind it all was shit.

We didn't have to make that tradeoff with the Blackwater episode. Why do it now?
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>>71046892
Kek, Dabid truly are the shittest writers
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>>71046908
Well you did the opposite.
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>>71046892
Reminder that that isn't bad writing.
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>>71046866
They have long spears that will shishkebab huge niggas despite being huge.

WHat bothers me more is that the Wild Childs couldnt have used Wun Wun there as a spearhead and dove for the gap.
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/10532461

Wow /tv/ was this episode really that great?
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>>71046843
He was badly outnumbered with worse troops

He got lucky in the fact that Ramsay is a tactical retard that killed a shitload of his own men to back Jon into a corner, but Jon would have had a lot more to work with if he had the Vale on his side
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>>71046631

>compares entire legions to a handfull of retards
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what kind of style is this lads?
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>>71046889
Are you completely retarded
The employed tactic is the other way around
Engage with infantry and strike on the sides with cavalry
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>>71046866
>DIVEBOMBING INTO THE FUCKING LINES

why even go that far? grab one of those huge spears and start thwacking people with it
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>>71046858
It's almost as if Ramsay was a sadist who would use cruel tricks to trigger Jon into a rash attack. In fact, it's almost as if they specifically established this in the very scene you're referring to
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>first rank shields only
>second rank pikes only

Why did they form up like this? It seems very unstable as the shield bearers are helpless once the enemy charges in, and the pikemen would get fucked in hand to hand combat.
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>>71046934
But that's exactly what a young woman would say.
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>>71046836
hes a big guy
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>>71046866

upvoted
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>>71046939
It was an incredulous question. As in 'what the fuck could he use? A horse?'
>>
every dany scene makes me physically cringe now

how can anyone root for this bitch jesus christ
the only things she has done is lead her people awfully, not get burned twice and get deus ex machina'd like 5 times in the series already
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Since visual satisfaction is all we can expect from this show now, this was a pretty good episode.
I did notice some weird shit during bastardbowl, but it was still enjoyable.
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>>71046931
>>71046947
yet a few minutes later he has no problem breaking down the doors and turning into Wunwun the Hedgehog
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>>71046958
Pleated curtain
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>>71046892
She clearly explains that Ramsay will try and force Jon into making a mistake, which he did and Jon took the bait.

She said she didn't know battle tactics, but she did know that Ramsay would force Jon to play his hand too early
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>>71046828
>Jamie
Jesus Christ. I can agree with parts of what you said. But Jaime, a good character?
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>>71046828
>Also, we have such CGI wonders as Warcraft teh Movie

Nigger what? Even at its worst, GoT cgi is still miles better than warcraft, that shit is phantom menace tier.
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>>71046892
JUST FUCKING TELL HIM REEEEEEEEE WHAT HARM COULD IT DO
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>>71046934
Why? Its pretty realistic way to portray an obnoxious female in such situation .
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>>71046978
But he could have used a horse very effectively.
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>>71046948
Yes
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>tfw Cooljon got thrashed

Feels bad mang
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>>71047002

Just stop. Youre embarrassing yourself.
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>>71046889
>Engage with cavalry
>Pincer with infantry

NO! This is the exact opposite thing you do. Engage with the infantry to hold a line in place and use more mobile cavalry forces to shape the battle lines.
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>>71046836
>>71046911

I don't think he predicted this. What matters to his plan is that by giving the Boltons Sansa, who's considered a fugitive by the Iron Throne, he's got Cersei's approval to go destroy the Boltons. Thus he gets to "show his cards" only by the time the Riverlands campaign starts for Sansa and Sweetrobin.

Oh, and, remember, Sweetrobin ALSO gets a claim to the Riverlands, through his mother. While Baelish gets to RULE the Riverlands from Harrenhal.
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>>71046962
Shitloads of medieval battles have started with cavalry charges.

Especially if the other guy has shit infantry or is in a charge.
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>>71046582
You didn't flay so good
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>>71046928
Oh, shit, I confused my birds. Ignore me.
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Once again the autists nitpick the most ridiculous details to trick themselves into disliking something that most people like in an attempt to makes themselves feel intelligent. You aren't intelligent for not liking Game of Thrones. Every one of you liked the show into cynical 4chan memes memed you into hating it. This is a fact. That is the reason you spend so much time in this general.
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>>71046955
Nigga Jon ran like a retard by himself into their front lines. If his horse didn't get killed by arrows then he would have died and his men would not have their commander which might have been for the better as they could have then went back to the original defensive plan. Jon is a shit commander.
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>>71046892
>knowing that ramsay is a cruel rapist is supposed to give sansa insight into his military tactics
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>>71046892
and then women around the globe said that was a powerful woman scene
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>>71046582
LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HUNGRY DOG
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Just noticed a goof
>Sansa storms off during meeting with ramsay before the battle
>Ramsay makes comment about feeding all of the men to his hounds which he hasn't fed for seven days
>Sansa references this in the final scene
She wasn't there to hear him make that comment and it would be 8 or more days by the time she exclaimed that. Also Ramsay called Lyanna a man, bad writing.
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Why is Sansa so best
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make the new thread i have an ebin post lined up
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>>71046892
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T SHE MENTION THE KNIGHTS OF THE VALE ?! EXACTLY WHY ?!
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>>71046785
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>>71047035
>Dude just turn your brain off lol
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>>71046892
The worst part was that Sansa had attended all the meetings, been present when Davos and Tormund had been discussing tactics, and no one at any point told her she wasn't allowed to speak up
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>>71047010
Maybe. I have no idea how hard a horses' body is. I've never seen one in real life.
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>>71046892
and at the end of the day her female powers won the day

yay for empowerment!
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>>71047017

>blizzcucks actually thinking warcraft has good CGI
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>>71045998
mfw knights of the vale ride through winter across a massive territory without anyone noticing them and arrive at the exact moment they are needed. Nice D&D. Not to mention how they got past moat cailin which can only be easily taken from the rear. Did they not think to tell ramsey they were besighed?
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>>71046113
Because Wun wun is basiclly Hodor only even bigger, he's a simpleton, he has brute force but he's not exactly a great tactician, he's retarded
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Thought Jon was beating in his face like the fucking Yellow Bastard. That would've been satisfying though.

Gotta have the edgy doggy dog world ending!
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>>71047044
Well, I mean, her advice was relevant.
Rickon is a lost cause, Ramsay is going to play on your emotions to try and get you to do something retarded.

Too bad she didn't mention the fucking enormous Vale army.
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>>71046962

Perhaps you're forgetting that Jons army consisted of WILDLINGS WITHOUT SPEARS AND SHIELDS.

A horseshoe with Phalanx absolutely works in that situation.minimises friendly casualties and protects allows you to crush the enemy without expending valuable horses.

Sure, Ramsay could have pincered with Phalanx and charge with horses but ultimately he would have just lost horses as opposed to nothing.
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>>71046958
Rick Owens A/W 2014
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>>71047057
She read the script, dumbass
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>>71046837
This is a guy who survived the ides of march, according to stories. Ramsay knew it was headshot or nothing
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>>71047083
>>71046659
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>>71046866
or barrelroll the whole fucking thing
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>>71047070
I've yet to see an argument stating why the episode as a whole was bad. It was exciting where it mattered.
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>>71046793
>Black guy killing the slave master

This was the most fantastical scene of the episode.
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>>71047076
REMOVE REDDIT
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>>71046972
Shield bearers are a fucking thing you know.

Chinese, Persians, Early Italian armies had them.
>>71046986
He was nearly killed earlier and was fucking mad at that point.
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>>71047073
War horses are muscular as fuck and weigh a ton.
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>>71047081
Look at the screen shots as they get surrounded. The four ranks of Bolton men would clearly be incapable of breaking Wun wun's momentum if he started running, and that is all the wildlings would need.
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>>71046962
>>71047018
Loads of battles used pikemen in pincer. Nothing wrong with that.

Why did Jon's army use no spearmen, though?
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>>71046140
The tactics were literally restarted.
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>mormontloli didn't do anything
>no 62 mormont men against the world scene

come on
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>>71047078
Honestly the CGI is better than GoT and I thought Warcraft was shit.
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>>71046726
1. Cause Jon is too emotional about his family. Sansa tried to warn him to not be a retard like she knew he would be, but he went full retard.
2. Cause Sansa is either a) not that smart either or b) knew Ramsay wouldn't meet all of their forces combined and might retreat back to Winterfell, whereas she has no real love for the wildlings and was willing to sacrifice them to see Ramsay die.
3. Heat-seeking arrows.
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>>71047038
And Ramsay's even worse, who the fuck slaughters their own cavalry to finish an army with your infantry?

That's a pants-on-head retarded plan, and it's why Ramsay lost
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>>71047093
This is actually hilariously stupid when you realize that you only ever saw wildlings with spears and bows in the second season.

Like what happened, man.
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>>71047134
kek
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>>71046948
nah, it was a solid 8. The battle was pretty cool but as people have mentioned theres a lot of errors in the writing this week yet again
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>>71047133

What makes you think Mormontloli would do anything? She's just there for her mens morale so they're not fighting on their own with people they don't know.
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>>71046183
shield wall, bunch them up. Cav charge from the rear. 0/10 could have won the battle myself.
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>>71047093
>Enemy cavalry charging on your phalanx
>Nah better charge them with cavalry too and meet them halfway
K
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>>71047076
WE RRRIOT
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>>71047148
Truly the worst commanded battle ever filmed.
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>>71046697
I didn't catch it. what was it
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>>71046836
He's in love
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>>71047111
>black guy kills the slave master while under the delusion that he is free when he is infact being ruled by a white female slave master

D&D's commentary on black lives mater
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>>71047134

Someone post the webm of baby thrall.

Warcraft's cgi is bad, even GoT's is better, maybe not from a technical standpoint, but good grafix aren't everything if your animations and art style completely fucking clashes with the real actors and props.

Warcraft looks like 2 different movies (GoT/LOTR and pixar/WoW cinematic) mixed into one.
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>>71046117
All the other northern lords who told them to fuck off before will come crawling back now.

And LF only controls the Vale Knights through Robin, so that could go pair shaped for him if Robin prefers Sansa to him.
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>>71047109
I can't speak for everyone here, but I personally consider it a good show but not perfect, and nitpicking often does open up conversations about the series (maybe what you thought was a plot hole was actually a hint, etc)

I think most people here would consider it a "good" show, even if they won't admit. Otherwise the fact you're watching it on the day and then going online to talk to strangers about it is pretty sad.
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>yfw you realize that she's literally a better tactician than Jon
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>>71047167

It's like D&D never even played Total War.
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>>71047002
>phantom menace tier CGI
Bitch, die.
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>I watch a GoT episode
>I enjoy it
>Got to /got/
>See lots of mistakes I didn't notice
>Doubt myself
>Get depressed
Every time. I don't want to be dumb :(
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>>71046418
Because he's a terrible fighter, he got Jon'd hard.
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>>71047122
No time to make spears and teach advanced warfare tactics to wildlings?
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>>71047193
Pretty sure mormontloli is a better tactician than Jon.
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>Jon Snow is a very skilled combatant but part of the reason he survives this battle is just that he gets lucky

SO HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR PLOT ARMOR FAMILIA??
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>>71047027
The most underrated post of this thread
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>>71047201
Just truly, become R*ddit
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>>71047187
Oh believe me I know how shitty baby Chris Metzen was but GoT's cgi is pretty bad. Now the sets though are pretty damn good. Really good actually.
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>>71046412
He first killed his King dickweed
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>>71046866
Yes, he could have just grab those pikes and pull, then walk over the formation and break it with ease.
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Just stop bullshit it was 11/10 episode. You cunts stop trying to act like a bookfag who didnt care for show.
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>he's good he's very good

christ this fucking cringe dialogue
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>>71047174
Except Jon's cavalry charged at the archers. The phalanx was sent only after the wildlings approached and could have been encircled.
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>>71047190
I have no problem with critique, but every critique goes.
'That man didn't have a sword in one shot. WORST SHOE EVER!'
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>>71047148
Book Ramsey isn't a masterful tactician. Seems like just for that one moment mid battle dnd decided to abandon demi god Ramsey and turn him into book Ramsey.
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tfw niggas comparing the battle scene to actual master pieces like the D-Day landings in Saving Private Ryan.

The start was good but everything else was retarded and cliche.
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i loved it when jon was overcome by bloodlust
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>>71047219
Now I am become circlejerk, destroyer of nuance
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>>71047252
And he still only lost due to the Vale's knight showing up right in the nick of time.
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>>71047219
>comparing the battle of the bastards to the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan

Wut?
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>>71047201
Except everyone here voted this episode 10/10
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>>71047216

Why didn't they even use the copout of "the lord of light was protecting him" or some shit? It would be a frustrating explanation to their shitty writing but it would at least make more sense than "luck lmao".
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WHERE ARE 20 GOOD MEN WHEN YOU NEED THEM
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>>71047116
>Chinese, Persians, Early Italian armies had them.

But did they have only a shield or a shield and a spear? I have never heard of infantry equipped with just shields and no weapons of their own.
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Baneposting died ages ago and you're all still calling littlefinger CIA
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>>71047201
There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying popcorn entertainment, it still deserves critique though. No need for popcorn entertainment to be painfully dumb, which GoT is sometimes. It is okay to enjoy GoT, it is not okay to think it is the best show of all time.

That would be Yes Minister
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>John didnt just plainly beat Ramsey to death
>His face was not even swollen

Black Sails really has risen my standards on scenes like these
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>>71047187
Here, but I don't see how this is terribad.

Warcraft's CGI was mostly good, but if you're going to prove otherwise, of course you could try autismsearching for animators' slacker moments, like the clipping of a footman's helmet or w/e.

At this point I'm not sure what is "good cgi" at all. I mean, half of "bad cgi" scenes of Star Wars were actually filmed with practical sets.
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>>71047076
>an emmy

I am sad.
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>>71046097
More like, why is the stag made of fireproof wood?
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>>71047234
This was no Homerooms, International Assassin, Ozymandias, International Assassin, Made in America, Long Term Parking etc.

I preferred Hardhome, but that doesn't mean this episode was in anyway bad, I just thought it was a strong 8/8.5 as opposed to the very strong 5-6/10 episodes we've had till now.

>>71047255
>>71047219
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>>71047148
>And Ramsay's even worse, who the fuck slaughters their own cavalry to finish an army with your infantry?

Someone who is kind of cowardly in the face of a real fight and doesn't give a shit about his own people if he can finish it almost immediately with no risk to himself. Of all the stupid shit that happened I didn't find this to be that problematic.
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>>71047234
Great action.
Average to below average writing as usual.
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>>71046659
>Jon finally getting to hurt the motherfucker who fucked up everything in the Stark house and the North overall
>beats him, just as everyone wanted to
>Sansa appears, looking terrified
>Jon u r monster nao
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>they didn't explain who the flayed burning men were
>just some randoms ramsay picked out

or maybe was it house goodmen?
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>>71047293
>Baneposting died

Maybe for you

also check em
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>roose tells ramsay he's a retard for charging the cavalry out of winterfell to destroy a weaker force
>ramsay is still a retard
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>>71046866
All the pikes in front of him are pointing up.
He could just kick the shield wall there.

That whole phalanx was retarded. Having one pike every meter makes it way too easy to get past the pikes. There are guys with pikes in the back rows, they could help out.
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>>71047242
Yeah, I'm in broad agreement. There are aspects the battle I could (and probably will) critique, but I'll still grant that it was a pretty damn good scene all around. It's just contrarianism
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>>71046536
You and everyone else are retards.
Ramsey was fucking with him and Jon.
Waiting for the last moment to hit the kill shot.
Should have been obvious from the second shot when Ramsey wasn't looking when he fired.
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>>71047276
10/10 kinematography
4/10 happenings

7/10 overall
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I liked this episode too, even if the script sometimes is just meh.

I would like to point out the pottery of the whole situation:
-Tyrion is the advisor for the Targaryen Queen
-Tywin was the advisor for the Targaryen King
In this episode we saw Tyrion telling Daenerys to stop being like her father

If Brienne will be the Lord Commander of the Queensguard (which could be a nice story arc if it will be confirmed she's the descendant of Ser Duncan) she will have the sword of Jaime Lannister, the guy who killed the Targaryen King... Poetry?
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>>71047318
Ramsay wasn't cowardly at any other point in the show. Trying to justify something with that logic now seems like weak sauce to me.
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>>71046719
>dracarys

is this meme?
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>>71047272
Jon fucked up too
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>>71047303
People still watch that shit?
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>>71047304
>Here, but I don't see how this is terribad.

It looks straight out of those 70s-80s horror movies movies, it looks like an animatronic despite being fucking CGI (so still looking digital). It's like worse of both worlds.

>At this point I'm not sure what is "good cgi" at all

CGI that mixes well with its real counterpart and doesn't completely stand out, warcraft is who framed roger rabbit tier in terms of characters from different worlds clashing with each other only unintentional.

Nothing in GoT reaches that level.
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Why did Sansa seem horrified at the idea of Ramsay being beaten to death? She clearly enjoyed the torture of Ramsay when she smiled while walking away from the dogs eating him. She didn't even wince.

Seems to me she would've happily watch Jon smash his skull to pieces.
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>>71047355
Dany/Yara scene was fucking garbage. Same with a lot of the things during battle.

Whole lotta bullshit.

I still enjoy it for the "le epic fights", though.

6-7/10.
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>>71047272
He relied heavily on his numbers and on his hope that his cav and archers would slaughter most of Jon's men

It worked, but it was insanely stupid because any Northern relief force with cavalry could have wrecked him at that point, no one SACRIFICES their cavalry in a medieval battle, it's fucking retarded
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>>71047357
I have never even conceive of such poetry before.

Shall I compare thee to an inbred King?
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>>71047398
was she horrified?
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>Jon needs to take back the North because he needs every man he can get to defeat the white walkers
>causes the death of almost 9000 men

BRAVO AZOR
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>>71046911
Sansa marrying Ramsay wasn't in the books so I highly doubt D&D actually thught it through. My guess is they didn't want to confuse the show audience by intriducting a character pretending to be arya.
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>>71047219
Are they retarded?
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>>71047219
>1399 people decided to move their arm, wrist and finger to click on that upper arrow in an effort to express their approval of this childish reaction

Please stop posting these.
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What will Lindybeige say about the battle?
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>>71047381
>I don't know what I'm talking about
Last season was god-tier
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>>71047398
Maybe she didnt like seeing Jon violently killing people?
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>Wun-Wun doesn't just grab all the spears pointing at him with his insanely superior reach and strength, suddenly depriving an entire section of the shield wall of their spears, then having the option to like, just start kicking the men or using the spears to start impaling motherfuckers from above left and right
I guess this motherfucker was too dumb to bother picking up a tree or horse or large rock to fight with, but even a dumb angry injured retarded giant should have probably tried grabbing the pointy things that were being pointed at him, considering he could literally stand outside of danger of actually being hit with them, and just reach out and grab the poles. I mean, if the men behind were fast about it they might be able to poke his arms a bit, but considering the formation and the fact that they were right up in his face and would have had to pull back like 2 metres to be able to stab his outreached arm, nope. Out of all the things which didn't really make sense, the OP giant gimping himself for literally no conceivable reason in multiple ways repeatedly annoyed me the most.
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>>71047398
Jon realised that Sansa might want to kill him her own way.
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NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>>71047446
>>71047446
>>71047446

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>>71047446
>>71047446
>>71047446
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>>71045998
And we're back to watching GOT with out favourite actors.

>deserve this

What did she mean by that?
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>>71047318
No my point was you DON'T SACRIFICE CAVALRY in a medieval battle, you sacrifice infantry to give yourself more options if you need it

Once all of Ramsay's cav was dead, any Northern relief force with cavalry could have wrecked him
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>>71047398
She was fucking wet watching Jon do that
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>>71047438
No I don't? Like many I stopped after the joke that was season 1. Hence the question.
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>>71047440

So it's only okay when she does it?
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>Rickon unable to anticipate an enemy shooting arrows from far away or just running in a proper fucking zig zag
The most upsetting thing in this episode desu. This is another case of the Prometheus wheel and nobody gives a shit.
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>>71047417
lord of light resurrects them

or

jon becomes another white walker and raises an army of wights on his own
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>>71047387
>CGI that mixes well with its real counterpart and doesn't completely stand out
That's what Lucas did in Star Wars, yet he always got blame for "bad cgi"
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>>71047433
;^)
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>>71047474
>didn't watch 2/3rds of the show
>still feels qualified to comment on it

One less faggot to shit up our threads at least
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>>71047361
Not him but he avoids open battle when he can preferring to bait people into trusting him and then flays surrendered opponents (moat Cailin). That's pretty cowardly. He also kills his father when he was pretending to be having an affectionate moment with him.
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I'm pretty sure I dislike Sansa more than Ramsay at this point.
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>>71047407
>"He promised you a BIG COCK"
>*smugleesi eyes*
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>>71047487
he was young, probably weak from inprisonment, scared to death, couldn't hear when ramsay let the arrow loose
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>>71046414
more importantly, how the fuck did they get past the twins?
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>>71047381
black sails is awesome you fuckstick
better than this shitshow
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>>71047524
It's cruel and cunning, but I don't see why that makes him cowardly. He clearly show no fear of danger in earlier episodes.
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>>71047494
>That's what Lucas did in Star Wars

What in the fuck

At times you couldn't tell if you were watching a live action movie or just a full CGI movie
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>>71047524

He seems more opportunistic than cowardly, if there's a way to do things easily he will gladly take it. He basically just has no sense of honour, and does whatever it takes, I never got the impression he was afraid.
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>>71047553
s3 is one of the best seasons of television I've seen recently, way better than GoT s5 and s6
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>>71047547
You can get past the Twins if you have the time to cross the river otherwise. Robb's army just had no time.

Moreover, Baelish had a document from the Iron Throne approving his mission to destroy the Boltons. The Freys had to let him through.
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>>71047531
>To weak to look over his shoulder

Ramsay's arrows were in the air for a very long time. It would really require only a base survival instinct to avoid them.
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>>71047593
More important question - why didn't Ramsay investigated why an entire foreign army occupied one of his castles?
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>>71046049
"physics"

I'm sure if he struck the horse, the horse would fly back also
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>>71047574
>At times you couldn't tell if you were watching a live action movie or just a full CGI movie

That's the point. He used a lot of filter to make all sets appear futuristic. There's a scene where Sheev and Anakin walk through the office that appears fully fake CGI.

The office is actually a real set that was around since TPM. It was digitally enhanced to look surrealistically "clean", thus fake.

Google "practical effects prequels" and see. Almost every scene was either a full set, or a miniature (which happened since, eh, ROTJ, when Carrie Fisher also complained about having to act in front of the blue screen).

Mustafar was a gigantic model, with the crew going to Italy specifically to film volcano lava. In the film itself, you could have easily thouhgt it to be CGI.
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>>71046785
Maybe she means the part where she lets a man get eaten by a bunch of dogs
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>>71046028
Not every battle goes exactly as planned cunt...

Ramsays plan was pretty solid ( sadistic as fuck but solid) he didn't want to rout them he wanted them All dead to show off his power.Which he nearly managed to pull off.

Great ep
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>>71046997
Look, im not saying he is perfect, but Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as an actor is just in another league than Kit Harrington and the rest.

Point being, look at last episode(or one before, I cant remember) , best moments were when Clegaine talked with that priest, no battles, just talk under the tree and you enjoyed every second, later on , just 4 dead people and it was more brutal and beliveable(And whats more important, more GOT) than this hill of dead people.
You see what can one good actor do(i cant remember his name but he is known old dog) to the show.
They knew that GOT has some demanding characters(And they knew its gonna be big), so they really had to invest into good actors, and spare some money of hookers who showed their titties and flacid dicks everywhere..
So, what they do, they kill every fucking competent actor in the show...
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>>71047078
Is... is this what the movie looks like? Holy jesus fuck, none of the characters fit in there, except the two guards in the front. What the fucl?
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>>71046190
GRRM is a leftist feminist you cuck
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>>71046289
The snow nigga was getting stabbed left and right. He tried but couldn't do shit.

Ants would kill a lion eventually
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>>71046972
>>71047116
Also, shortswords
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>>71047002
i dont want to insult you, you responded to me originaly.
I didnt say that Warcraft is good movie, but if you think its not technical marvel, well, you dont know a lot on that topic. Ill just leave this here so you can educate yourself, its really some next level shit in CGI(again, im not saying CGI is best route to go, but sometimes, it just is)
Anyway, check this, also, check how Ragnar is an retard(i liked the guy before this dox, and that other actor, i think he was famous for Band of Brothers is like, total nerd and gets just how big of a deal all that is)
anyway, looksie, you will end up looking smarter in future conversations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ROUcUrhXYo
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>>71047761
It's a still it doesn't really look like the way it does on screen.
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At the end of the trailer for next week, when Tyrion is saying "You're in the game now, and it's terrifying" or something along those lines, we see a young, short haired man walking out of a building into the daylight.

Of course, this could just be a random shot to fill the trailer while Tyrion talks, but could it be foreshadowing anyone? Tommen grows some balls finally? Aegon?
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>>71046578
The vale fucked their shit right up. Maybe a few hundred routed idk point being not many are still alive.
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>>71046623
My bet is the red bitch with tits but a spell on him or some magical shit like that.

He got way too lucky.
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>>71047027
10/10
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>>71047598

Ok in that case my experience with the episode was ruined :D
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>>71048313
>Dragons and magical things in the show.

Oh but he got so lucky, wahhh wahh fucking wahhh. You're all retards.
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>>71046587
kek
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>>71046813
Crashing this Vale with no survivors!
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>>71047282
actually, shieldbearers had short knives, maybe shortswords, second row had spears, but it depends, tactics have changed from phalanax where every row had a really long spear and literally all the killing was done by folks in 3 or even 4th row(they were out of emidiate danger so they were able to concentrate on hittin the targets)
Also, check ancient armors(lets say Spartans), they were in fucking underwear but they had armor from their feet to their knees (it was only wonreable place, most damage was done in legs, i know it sounds stupid, but cold warfare was really, really complex(maybe even more than this rifle nonsense), you wouldnt believe how many functions has one little bump on viking shield, stuff you would think is ornamental is most crucial.

Point is, with cold warfare, you really need to have just one good trick, there is no one who will survive and tell about it(so they can make countermeasures on the spot).
Look at weaboo samurai duels, guy had one trick, and he used it whole life, its not as if dead guy's spirit will tell next guy about IDK, sand in sleeve or knife in shorts.

I really hate those WARRGH charges, they never work and they were used usually by now extinct barbaric tribes(wonder why they were instinct?)
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>>71047761
no, really, mixed opinions on Warcraft as the movie, some human armors were like Mattel made them, but no one in his right mind can deny total masterworks of ILM around Orks, it is best shit out there at the moment,
maybe in a week a movie with better CGI will emerge but as of now
Gollum would be first if not for a fucking army of oRKS, every one better than the last one.
Im not saying there werent bad moments, but as an whole, and the fact that movie is basically 80% CGI, you cant expect everything to be REAL LIFE.
But , looksie..
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>>71046972
Going to second this. It seems as though if you break one part of the shield wall then that entire row would crumble.
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