So apparently this movie has fascist undertones to it, particularly in the characterisations of the two main heroes. I personally couldn't find anything in terms of fascism wit the characters. Is it just a buzzword liberal journalists like to us?
>>70529663
What?
Did you miss Batman's dream?
>>70529663
batman is fascist by nature to begin with
I've read that the only Journalists to defend this movie aren't those who have a right wing tendency for politics.
>>70529721
A dream about aliens taking over the world and Superman helping them? I guess the Superman soldiers were kind of Nazi. But people have been criticising this movie for its "fascist themes".
>>70529845
>Superman helping them
He's fucking Big Brother
Alan Moore has written for years about the innate fascism of superheroes. They use violence to brutally enforce the status quo and bolster the system.
>>70529663
ayyy
>>70529883
Yeah, in a dream/premonition. Also sure that you're meant to be disturbed by Superman acting like that. The film isn't glorifying Future Hitler Superman
>>70529896
Don't want to start the company wars arguments but why do The Avengers (who work for the government) get a free pass and this movie is picked apart for it's fascism.
>>70529663
>Hitler was a fascist.
>Batman did nothing wrong.
>Hitler did nothing wrong.
>Thus, Batman is a fascist.
Simple logic.
>>70530055
batman and supes originally fought regular criminals, that's much more oppressive
i cant recall the avengers fighting anyone other than villains or themselves
the x-men fought the government mostly
>>70529663
Nah, that's just MaryAnn Johanson. She basically says everything is fascist, misogynist, etc. Check out her reviews on RT. They're hilarious.
>>70529663
It's just another desperate grasp at some kind of narrative straw.
>>70530390
Forgot pic.
>>70530345
If you ask me, Captain America's viewpoint in Civil War seems ironically anti-democracy
>What? an appointed can't possibly have say over how we use our powers. It's up to us alone how we fight evil, no matter what everyone else says.
>>70529663
>So apparently this movie has fascist undertones to it
According to who, and why is that person important enough to care about it.
>>70530390
>>70530535
He almost signed the Accords, he didn't do it when he knew what happened to Wanda, and thus saw what happens to those who oppose them.
I'm sure Cap would be completely fine with someone supervising them, I mean, he was under Fury's supervision in Avengers and part of TWS and he had no problem with it until he started discovering shit.
>>70530535
>shit's going wrong in Kerblackistan, we COULD intervene but the accords say we're not allowed to
>oops Kerblackistan is now a smldering crater, well not our fault, sandwiches anyone?
>>70530521
>>70530636
Reminds me of Armond and his obsession with the post 9/11 culture.
>>70530390
LOL
>>70530390
Why is Reese Witherspoon so misogynist?
>>70530535
It would be fine if the Avengers were regulated, but the fucking UN?
They didn't even let Cap go after the guy who bombed the UN itself in the movie.
>>70530866
>They didn't even let Cap go after the guy who bombed the UN itself in the movie.
That seemed to be more because he had a personal investment in it,
>>70530939
That's another retarded thing.
These guys are not soldiers, well, Cap technically is, but they are not fighting just random wars.
Every member of the team is powerful as fuck, you can't just tell them not to go because they have personal involvement in it.
If you are sending the Avengers in the first place, is because something big is happening, so there's no reason to hold back any gun.
>>70530521
BvS's female superhero
>Isn't sexualised
>Never needs rescuing
>Is just as strong as the male heroes
>Isn't a romantic interest for one of the men
MISOGYNIST!
Avengers Age of Ultron's female hero
>Constantly sexualised
>Main character arch is about her relationship with a male character
>Other character is about how she can't have kids
>Gets captured and needs rescuing
Oh yeah that's okay
>>70530996
At the same time you can have a little too much gun, but let's be honest, Scarlet witch's actions at the beginning was not a result of lack of training, it was a split second decision and more lives would have been lost if it had detonated at ground level.
I actually like that in the fight with Vision she sort of makes up for that error by instead directing the threat downwards.
>>70529663
>Anonymous 06/06/16(Mon)21:27:50 No.70529
theres a niglet woman calling out superman as a racist because he didnt do anything.
thas racist
>>70531123
>BvS's female superhero
>>Isn't sexualised
Yeah those two evening dresses she wore in her first appearances were nun-certified.
>>70531198
There's no way to sexualize Gal Gadot.
>>70531123
>Oh yeah that's okay
>>70531198
That's how women dress at those events. There were never any shots showing off her body in suggestive angles.
>>70531304
I meant from Mary Ann Johanson's opinion
>>70531466
Well, Black Widow just has a generic spy suit, and Scarlet Witch's outfit doesn't seem too sexualized.
>>70531804
A generic spy suit with a gap allowing her bra-less cleavage to be visible throughout most of the film with the camera constantly showing said cleavage and her butt
>>70531862
Yeah but that's not overly sexualized, it's just cleavage.
>>70531888
I'm not saying any of the movies is sexist. My point was that I just don't understand how, out of the two of them, BvS is the misogynist one according to Mary Ann Johanson.
>>70531975
Maybe the miniskirt.
Still completely retarded complaints though, and seeing how she sees that shit everywhere, don't think you should waste your time paying attention to her.
>>70531975
She's a stupid retard and trying to understand the logic of a stupid retard won't get you very far.
>>70531975
When you see a shitpost in here, you try to find logic behind it?
No, you ignore it and move on.
>>70529663
Batman is a fascist. Miller's Batman was both anarchist and Fascist.
>>70531123
>Oh yeah that's okay
With feminists, it's never okay.
There's literally nothing that won't piss them off.
>>70530055
>Don't want to start the company wars arguments but why do The Avengers (who work for the government) get a free pass and this movie is picked apart for it's fascism.
The Avengers actually split and fought a big ol' war because of this very issue. So at least they've addressed it.
>>70529663
It IS fascist anon.
Fascism and fascist are such a fucking meme buzzword now thanks to idiots using it for everything.
>>70531804
Anon, black widow is sexualised as fuck.
>>70531123
>expecting logic and consistent arguments from liberals / feminists
Your first mistake
