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miss me yet?

>>70254526
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>>70256386
Yes.
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>tfw you will never save her
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If you're a lannister then you're not allowed to post here
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>>70256423
She would have made a great Queen
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>>70256386
>early

Wew lad
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why does /got/ hater her?
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>>70256386
>tfw each king has somehow gotten progressively worse
>tfw Dany will somehow top them all
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>people honestly side with Sam

shoulda killed the fatty
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What was the point of this scene?
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Why are the other two cats Tommen has never shown, budget cuts?
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Episodes 8, 9, 10 Titles leaked

June 12: “No One”: Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) finds cause for concern. Cersei (Lena Headey) prepares for the worst. Sansa (Sophie Tuner) takes control. Arya (Maisie Williams) is not alone. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Mark Mylod.
June 19: “Battle of the Bastards”: Ramsay (Iwan Rheon) surprises his audience. Jon (Kit Harington) retaliates. Dany (Emilia Clarke) is true to her word. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.
June 26: “The Winds of Winter”: A queen comes forth. Euron (Pilou Asbæk) reveals himself. Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) meets a friend turned foe. King’s Landing awaits justice. The Night’s Watch gathers. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.

Translations from German Sky-TV titles and descriptions that were shortly removed.
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What should have been

>Ned in cell in season 1 waking up from his dream of "Promise me, Ned"

What will happen in season 6

>Promise me ned
>"Ahh my father, The Honourable Ned Stark, has been dreaming of this ever since"
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>>70256452
Boring plot, hasn't changed since she was introduced
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>>70256473
that's a cute cat, i want to smother it.
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>>70256464
They just felt they needed some sort of scene establishing that Dany had gotten Drogon back. That's it.
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>>70256386
since season 1 :^(
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First for King Azor Stannis
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>>70256452
got our dicks excited and is now just wasting our time.

we'll like her again if
1. the writing stops sucking
2. the actress learns to act
3. she marries Jon and kills him to have the Iron Throne to herself
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>>70256464
MUH DRAGONS
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>>70256445
>tfw once Tommen dies if Stannis had never burned her she would have just inherited the throne
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Post yfw Bran transcends reality and becomes the universal subconscious.
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>>70256452
I hate her even more now that I saw this pic
I bet she'll get her own Disney movie with retarded songs one day
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>>70256509
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>>70256386
At least under your rule, the world made sense. Not this madness. When will madness have its' day end?!
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>>70256448
Look at that STRONK womyn convincing her sheepish, cucked brother to be strong and fight.

WEW LAD
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>>70256464
Filler. We needed to be reminded that Dany has dragons and brown dudes. There's enough shit going on that scenes like this are hella gay, if nothing else they could show 10 minutes of Robert Strong scaring the farts out of Pycelle.
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THREADLY REMINDER

do NOT reply to tripfags, SJWs OR Stannisposters
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>>70256464
Dany has a renewed sense of purpose. Drogon took her to the Dothraki to make her remember her roots, a Targaryen.
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>>70256524
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Robert Baratheon was a drunken misogynist.


No, we haven;t missed you. >>70256386
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>>70256533
MADNUSSS
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>>70256462
>being this edgy

wew lad
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>>70256452
>tumblr
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>>70256524
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>>70256386
fuck yeah I miss Bobby B

He was the shit. He cucked the shit out of the Targaryens then had 10+ years of Westeros Golden Age. He was a total bro king that just ate and shat and drank a fucked and made the Lannisters, the most wealthy family in Westeros his bitch.

King Robert was the GOAT king
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>>70256524
Post yfw Night's King reveals he's a multiversal threat and exists outside of space/time and is only projecting himself into our reality.
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>>70256530
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>we did it, me lord! We built your thousand ships! and with time to spare!
>Good, good describe it to me
>We made it the same way the bravossi makes their swords, folded iron
>I've never heard of that, WUZTHATMEN?
>it means its 3 inches old and is made of folded paper, we call it origami
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>>70256542
What's wrong with Stannis ?

>>70256560
Every good man in History has been a misogynist to some degree.
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>We'll never see based Bobby B bash in breastplates on live TV

>We'll never see based Ned and Bobby B back to back wrecking Targ troops
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>>70256584
No, he cuckd the Lannisters. Bobby B annihilating most of a bloodline is too badass for your misplaced faggoty memes.
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>>70256480
>Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) meets a friend turned foe

>It's a Jaime character assassination episode

OR

>Its a Lady Stoneheart episode

Which one bros
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>>70256560
>Robert Baratheon was a drunken misogynist.
It is why he was a great character like Joffrey.
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>>70256525
I JUST CANT WAIT TO LEAVE MEREEEEEENN
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>>70256524
You mean the Idea of Evil ?
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>>70256598
>she will never look at you that way
JUST CUT MY LIFE INTO SHARDS
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>>70256445
She would have made a great queen. But instead, she became a charcoal
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>>70256452
I actually like her character in the books and am interested to see what Martin intends to do whith her. In the show however she's just been getting tiresome.
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>>70256629
It won't be LSH. I would bet money on it. Will be Jaime.
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>>70256613
For one, Stannis is dead.
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>>70256480
>Finale: The Winds of Winter

ON
SALE
CONFIRMED
GET HYPE
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>>70256598
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>>70256480
next ep is written by cogman dumbass
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>>70256655
>But instead, she became a charcoal
;_;
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>>70256662
>implying

no body no death
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>>70256624
He cucked both of them. Why are you being combative bro? It seems like we are in agreement.
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>>70256629
hoping for latter, probable it'll be the former
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>>70256662
Incorrect
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>>70256598
Did she steal his virginity?
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Can someone remind me how the legendary warrior Barristan the Bold died?
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>>70256480
>all written by Dabid
DROPPED
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>>70256464
le epic dany moment :O
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>>70256662
Proofs?
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>>70256698
Poisoned by his enemies
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>>70256697
doubt that faggot would get it up
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>>70256662
Is /tv/ really that badly infested with plebbitors ? For fuck's sake, get a grip
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>>70256698
he was stabbed like a bitch by 4 sandniggers with knives
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>>70256680
I want to fondle her breasts
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>>70256699
nice meme
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>>70256725
Please do not advertise Reddit, friend. It is against the rules.
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>>70256698
TWO WARTS
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>>70256680
Got the ol' spicy greyscale
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Calling it, the show and the books will end with one lone surviving Walker riding a horse headed further North, to wait thousands of years to try this all over again.
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>>70256744
>quote everything
>call it reddit

so edgy bro
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>>70256718
The burden of proof lies with you.
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>>70256743
>tfw you will never enter Shireen's room, her ready and willing, you slowly pull down her shirt to reveal her erect shitting-dick-nipples, which you start to suck on and chew down the feces
Why even live?
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>>70256745
>meme
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>>70256635

fucking this.

Complexity in characterization is important, not the character's traits. The difference between Joffrey and Ramsay (both sadistic power tripping irredeemably evil characters) is strictly nuance and natural development.

Yeah, Joffrey was cartoonishly evil but the shallowness of his personality was constructed perfectly and played expertly by his actor and played off well by his supporting cast. The situations he was in were more illustrative than the forced meme shit Ramsay is given to do.
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>>70256743
She was a qt.
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"Promise me Nedd"
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>>70256592
That is literally what R'hllor and TGO should have been.
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>>70256761
>so edgy bro
>so edgy bro
>so edgy bro
>so edgy bro
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>>70256766
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>>70256698
Remind me again how legendary fighter Aemon Dragonknight died again?
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>>70256674
Next episode is 7. Those are episodes 8-10 dumbass.
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4chan beats reddit!

I knew you guys specialized in finding pre-teens!
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>>70256516
It would go to Marg you doof. They consummated their marriage.
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Would you read me a bedtime story?
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>>70256551
what?! what's targaryen about the dothraki?
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>>70256805
Err, what? With that logic it would go to Cersei since she was Robert's wife.
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>>70256386
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>>70256814
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>>70256805
>he thinks wives of kings can inherit shit that's based on blood

Wew lad
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>>70256792
Holding off two or three knights.
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what did they mean by "a queen comes forth"?
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>>70256825
No cause Robert had kids you fucking piece of shit
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>>70256825
wife>mum
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>>70256814
Sure thing, bae
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>>70256833
>Reddit advertiser strikes again
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>>70256805
Margery is merely a vessel for the King's offspring, she can't inherit the throne.
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>>70256464
Besides introducing the re-acquirement of her lost dragon it seemed to demonstrate that the new Khalasar (spelling?) is following her and now has reason beyond "wow she's fireproof and assassinated our leaders/high priests. Better follow her till death." which it seems even the writers realized was weak.
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>>70256825
>>70256839
There is no remaining line of blood, who would get it in the case that Tommen died right now?
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>>70256848
You're retarded.

>>70256852
Inheritance in GoT goes to the closest living relative. Not to wives, who do not share blood.
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>>70256843
And who were these apparently amazing knights that took down this legendary fighter and why do the bards not speak of how great they were?
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>>70256598
Post more frog
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>>70256834
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>>70256848

That doesn't fucking matter you knob, it stays in the Baratheon bloodline
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>>70256464
>Yfw you realize this is literally the 4th time she has made a speech like this infront of an army

We get it. She's stronk.

>I wonder how she's going to lose them next season!
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>>70256870
Whoever conquers that shit next and can hold it.
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just watched recent episode, what a cheesy ending

>hey guys brb don't go anywhere
>fucking riding this dragon I could barely control
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>>70256884
>Inheritance in GoT goes to the closest living relative.

says who?
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>>70256892
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>>70256386
Robert was a fantastic fucking character, every scene with Mark Addy in it was gold.
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>it's a Dany scene
>it's a High Sparrow scene
>it's a Ramsay scene
>it's a no cock joke scene
>it's a let's go murder them scene
>it's an angry petty bitch waif despite supposedly being in an order of nobody assassins scene
>it's a le witty imp scene
>it's a le smug mercenary man scene
>it's a where the fuck did the costume budget go jesus christ this looks like Warcraft what are you wearing scene
>it's a have you ever noticed nobody has worn any leg armor since Season 1 like it's always a breastplate and then regular pants scene
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>>70256819
Not the Dothraki you simpleton. Drogon obeying her and her telling the Dothraki her plan was her becoming Dany the Conqueror again instead of "Breaker of Chains" peace crap she tried.
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>>70256870
Gendry has a good claim
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>>70256615
All we can do is we dream I guess...
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>>70256910
Surely there must be some actual line of succession?
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>>70256870
Gendry.
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>>70256887
I imagine rather dangerous fighters as the few Toynes named are formidable fighters.
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>>70256598
>>70256892
>tfw you will never pretend to be a frog while she pretends to be a frog, and then she leaps on to your cock screaming "RIBBIT" as loudly as she can into your ears and then bounces off and starts eating maggots off the ground
Why even live?
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Are there any GoT video games that let you control Robb and make him marry the Fray girl instead?
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>>70256916
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Laws_and_Customs

Read the section on inheritance.
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00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,463

The King's going to be there

Everybody is going, Father

Take me aswell


00:01:34,073 --> 00:01:39,562

Why is Ned going?

This is unfair.


00:01:43,523 --> 00:01:47,579

Hush now, Benjen

Ned is of age.


00:01:52,223 --> 00:01:58,119

But Lyanna isn't

00:02:07,218 --> 00:02:11,231

You can't joust, Ben

You're too little

00:02:15,017 --> 00:02:21,112

Shut it, macumber!

Lyanna just wants to see the prince is all

00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:28,769

Aye, I want to see if he's as dashing as they say

-Thats enough, Lyanna

They say the prince loved singing

00:02:31,254 --> 00:02:34,112

poor robert

-as it would be if i were a fair maiden

-Lya!

00:02:38,673 --> 00:02:42,124

Besides, tourneys bore me

-Lyanna!

00:02:44,126 --> 00:02:47,151

Enough of this!

Wylis, take these to the stables

Hodor
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>>70256930
>>70256936
Hes a bastard, he has no claim
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>>70256884
>wives, who do not share blood.

says who :^)
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how does benjen know what bran saw?
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>>70256916

It is known.

Every maester in the citadel, every sparrow at the sept, every tree in the godswood, all know this.
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>>70256930
Gendry can't prove shit and isn't anywhere near king's landing. You guys all seemed so sure Marg wouldn't get the throne, if not who is actually next in line according to the rules?

Since there are no Baratheon's left it would make sense for Marg to have the best claim.
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>>70256748
TWO.
WARTS.
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Anyone else find it entertaining how Tommen is basically the opposite of Joffrey in every way?

How does the exact same environment produce a close minded, arrogant twat and the most impressionable, passive aggressive motherfucker in Westeros?
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>>70256972
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Laws_and_Customs
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>>70256954
hang yourself my man
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>>70256968
So is Tommen
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>>70256968
So is Tommen.
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>>70256687
>also lannisters
That one didn't count though; he was cucked back.
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How pissed is Dany going to be when she finds out the Imp brokered 7 years of slavery with the wise masters?
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So in the months Sansa was with Ramsay she never got pregnant?

also who would ever marry a used goods slag now
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>>70256973
hes a worg
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>>70256987
IM MAKING A JOKE ABOUT SISTERFUCKING AND INCEST REEEEEEEE NORMIES
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>>70256993
>>70256999
Tommen is officially a Baratheon and a son of King Robert.
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>>70256983
Are uncut wangs really that gross looking?
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>>70256993
>>70256999
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>>70256956
literally doesnt answer anything
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>>70256985
in got when u do incest some of your babies r crazy n some arnt like the fat queen n her brother
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>>70256993
>>70256999
Not officially. Officially he is a Baratheon
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>>70256968
>bastard, he has no claim
You can tell them that but they never seem to fuckin learn.
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>>70256967
>00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:28,769
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>Aye, I want to see if he's as dashing as they say

ayyyfmao
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>>70256892
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>>70256981
Gendry is in Gin alley right now, when Tommen dies all he has to do is talk to the Sparrow's
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>>70257009
He probably butthuole exclusively
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>>70257016
I got your joke, it was just terrible.

>>70257033
Read you fucking imbecile.

>Inheritance practices usually follow primogeniture, a male-preference winner-take-all system.
Picture related.
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>>70257018
Until he dies or his parents get "officially" exposed which might happen soon because of his actions.
Arya would murder everyone and support Gendry's claim anyway.
Overall, though, the strongest claim is held by Daenerys unless Margery is prego.
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>>70256985
Tommen was normal, Joffrey was inflicted with madness, it runs in the Targaryen family
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>>70257045
He's a bastard. they would never accept him. And how would the Sparrows know he's legit? Any random shit could just come in and say, "hey I'm Robert's kid, I'm king now lmao".
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>>70257050
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>>70256855
Is young Nan in the flashback/time travel BS too young?

I thought Nan was supposed to be Walder or Aemon levels of old but she looks 30-40 at the most when Ned was like 10.
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>>70257072
where does that confirm anything about cersei having any sort of claim?
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>>70257079
No, what would happen is you would just go back up King Robert's tree and going to descendants until you found the closest living relative.
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>>70257019
>he's cut

pffttt
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>>70256934
The line of succession is based on Bobby's claim of Targ blood, so technically they'd have to go to any trueborn descendants of that Targ grandma Robert had, of which there are none since Shireen, Stannis and Renly are dead, so it'd then have to go back to Targ descendants.

A Great Council would have to be called to decide which other Targ descendant, Aegon V's sisters for example had kids so descendants of that are possible.

But most likely in the show there'd be a civil war type thing where the Tyrells claim the throne and try and hold it and be supported by the people of King's Landing and Sparrow in holding onto power and not having the Lannister armies in the city slaughter them and claim it for Lannisters
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>>70257094
>This is considered to be clever.

Fuck. I do need to go to bed. See you later, you uninspired Cali-freaks
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>>70257105
Cersei has no claim. I was merely pointing out that Margaery has no claim, and Cersei would have more of a claim than Margaery would if the logic of the poster who brought up Margaery was applied.
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>>70256937
Yet we don't know their names and they're not named and no one ever calls them great warriors.

Aemon Dragonknight died like a bitch to two nobodies
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>>70257105
Isn't his point that she doesn't?
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post characters that you probably would beat up
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>>70257035
>fat queen
Daenerys "I take what is mine" Stormborn is as crazy as her brother though
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>>70257108
Like he'll they'd have any support. Dany only needs to wait for peasants to open the doors for her.
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>>70257103
Definitely is, desu. In the books she's Hodor's great grandmother.
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>>70257139
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>>70257019
girl detected
>>70257109
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Does anyone else miss Joffrey?

I liked it better when the king wasn't a total cuck. Joffrey may have been a cunt but at least he wasnt cucked
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>>70257147
>Viserys
>Crazy

He was worn and stressed, not some madman.
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>>70256981

Marg's not even remotely related to the Baratheon line.

It would go back to Robert, who's dead, then to Robert's brothers, who are dead, then to Robert's father Steffan, who is dead, to his next of kin, say a younger brother, who would probably be dead, but that would pass down to his son who would be King if he were alive. If Steffan had no brothers or they had no living sons, the same thing happens up and up the Baratheon line until it makes it's way back down to the closest living male heir.

I am not going to bother tracing it back but other posters have and say it actually winds up in the main Lannister tree through a Baratheon marriage some years before. Can't confirm.

Presumably if the heir that was determined was weak enough, some stronger faction would attempt to usurp the throne.
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>>70257110
>o technically they'd have to go to any trueborn descendants of that Targ grandma Robert had

nah they can just go through any baratheons, and find the closest blood relative to bobby, the line changed when bobby was crowned
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How many of you cucks are actually against Dany reconquering Westeros?

She's reclaiming her birthright.
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>>70257159
>He thinks the people in Westoros want Dany and her horde of bloodthirsty conquerors
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>>70257123
>This is considered to be clever.
>considered to be
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>having a mutilated dick

HAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT
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What has been the worst moment of the season so fae, and why was it Sam stealing the sword?
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>>70256777
true, we see at the beginning that it's his super privileged life as a prince and the relationship with his fucked up mother along with lack of attention from a despondent father that is the cause. Also possible mental illness due to incest.
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>>70256464

>be part of Dany's army
>march through the desert every day
>have to pause every hour of walking because Dany wants to be alone for 3 hours
>we then have to listen to her make a speech everytime she comes back
>it's a fucking desert and we have to listen to this shit under the burning sun
>cheer everytime because don't want to get my dothraki ballsack burned off by her dragon
>can't tell if that's shit running down my leg or sweat anymore
>fuck she's making a speech again
>her telling us all her different titles and names takes up half an hour alone
>fuck my life
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>>70257137
no, read the reply chain
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>>70257186
>I am not going to bother tracing it back but other posters have and say it actually winds up in the main Lannister tree through a Baratheon marriage some years before. Can't confirm.
It is Lannisters or some minor house from the Stormlands if I remember rightly.
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>>70257213
Dornish coup or Roose Bolton being poisoned by his enemies.
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>>70257159
>Dany only needs to wait for peasants to open the doors for her.

I would not open the gates for Dothraki savages who want to tear down my home and rape my women.

She is the mad queen, that she could give that speech means she is a nut
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>>70257197
He based it on his Targ grandma thanks to Jon Arryn, so Targ blood from that grandma or other Targs is required
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>>70256967
post more
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>>70257199
>He thinks the people of Westeros wanted Aegon and his horde of bloodthirsty conquerors
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>>70257213
I thought it was poorly handled and awkward, but not actively ruining characters and plot lines.

Worst moment was Dorne closure.
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>>70257198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9I0W1930FE

Watch this and let the spice king redpill you on her """""birthright""""""""
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>>70257198
>actor is shit
>every one of her scenes is shit
>hang on everybody I parked my dragon around this rock lmao
Just
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>>70257213
theon and asha sailing away with 30 ships and a big fucking cock
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>>70257197
Targs also used a different succession law to Robert. So it would make it harder.

Pic related is the Targ law.
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>>70257213
Sam stealing the sword was actually good
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>>70257243
it literally isnt though, the line changed when the new king is crowned

>>70257072
pic related, bobby was crowned, its now the baratheon line
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>>70257243
Nope. Robert changed the succession law once he was King. It is now relation to Robert that defines who becomes King, not the Targs.
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>>70257209
Were you replying to somebody or are you just telling us all your general thoughts on penises?
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Dany knows she could just use her Khalasar to threaten the Free Cities into giving her a 1,000 ships like how they normally give ship to Khalasar to not fuck them up right?
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>>70256744
you are worse than reddit could ever be
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>>70256629
It will be Sansa, who after she gets rid of Ramsey, will adopt the mantle of Lady Stoneheart and unleash unspeakable horrors on EVERYONE who wronged the Starks, to the point that she will make the flaying alive of the Bolton family seem romper room when compared to the suffering Sansa's going to dish out.

Brienne will be told to murder Jamie in horrific fashion for Sansa, as part of her grand push to star a war with Cersei by murdering her fuckbuddy brother. And that if she refuses, then Sansa will have her murdered and not care one bit about it since now that she's the Queen of the North, there is no one to stop her descent into madness fueled revenge.
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>>70256955
lol
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>>70256911
>mfw rhaenys and viscenya see dany riding drogon
>mfw they get super jealous of drogon
>mfw proper dragon fight
>mfw drogon dead
>mfw r&v answer only to Tyrion Lannister, Breaker of Chains and Father of Dragons
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>>70257209
You're not going to last long in the cock merchanting trade with that attitude buddy.
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>>70257050
I thought this was Implied yeah.
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>>70257308
Thats her plan
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>>70257213
>>70257289

its the only way to bring his fathers bannermen to the north
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So how ashamed are the GoT staff of Dorne? Is that coup shit really all we're getting this season?
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>>70257294
>>70257295
>it literally isnt though, the line changed when the new king is crowned
>Nope. Robert changed the succession law once he was King

Again, Jon arryn laid Bobby's claim on his Targ grandma, no more Baratheons carrying that Targ grandma's blood, no more Baratheon bloodright.

There's a reason Renly mentioned shit about weddings a hundred years ago blah blah blah. There are no more products of that union and Jon Arryn basing it on Targ blood gave legitimacy so the Great Council'll do so again.
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>>70256480
They called last episode "Winds of Winter" just so you remember that the fat fuck will never finish the book
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>>70257308
But that would be slavery and Dany is totally, 100% against that.
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LIST OF CHARACTERS THE SHOW HAS "WWE"d

Gendry
Thoros of Myr
Beric Dondarrion
Dany's entire original Khalasar


Who am I forgetting?
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>>70257344
You're probably a person who thinks the Umbers are secret Stark allies.

D&D are too stupid for that.
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>>70257243
>>70257294
>>70257295
Robert didn't change the succession law, but when he took the title the claim passed to his bloodline. So the claimant would need to be a direct descendant of the baratheon line. So its been 300 years since Orys Baratheon was legitimized by Aegon, so theres probably loads of baratheons married off and eligible.

However an issue arises on whether robert maintained the rule on any male of the dynasty inheriting before any female. There is no indication of how robert handled dynastic succession.
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>>70257332
confused rhaenys and viscenya with rhaegal and viserion. too many r+v's, gurm is an uncreative fuck
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>>70256480
>Euron (Pilou Asbæk) reveals himself
Euron = Daario confirmed
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>>70257361
>Again, Jon arryn laid Bobby's claim on his Targ grandma, no more Baratheons carrying that Targ grandma's blood, no more Baratheon bloodright.
That was only before he became King. Once he was King his blood and relation to him becomes birthright.
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>>70257346
Runor is they appear in the finale.

Im just glad D&D are putting an end to Cogmans fanfic. Hes the reason Dorne was in the show and he probably used his own personal fanfic for it.
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>>70257230

This is totally a sign that the family trees weren't that well thought out because Tywin would've totally just had Robert knocked off the way Cersei did, only before he ever "bore him heirs" because the crown would've passed into the Lannister house by right.
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>>70257346
They want it to be a surprise when the sneks teleport into Tommen's bedroom and backstab him
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>>70257344
So when Euron shows up with his 1000 ships, Dany can put on a smug face and say she already has all she needs, but she can definitely still use the men crewing those ships and kill Euron to pay the iron price?
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>>70257370
They mentioned the Brotherhood without Banners this episode
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>>70257367
Not anymore
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>>70257376
>However an issue arises on whether robert maintained the rule on any male of the dynasty inheriting before any female. There is no indication of how robert handled dynastic succession.
Wasn't Stannis listed as coming before Myrcella?
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>>70257390
Wait, what? Cogman was responsible for Dorne? But he wrote some pretty good episodes (like the latest one)
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Preston
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>>70257370

>Gendry

Was told to go away, probably in hiding and trying to live life.

>Brotherhood without banners

Was mentioned in EP 6

>Dany's original Khalasar

Split up into the other khalasars
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>>70257407
oh yeah

They'll probably bring them back just so they can kill them so we can have another "shocking" edgy death
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>>70257361
>There's a reason Renly mentioned shit about weddings a hundred years ago blah blah blah

yeah, because its the baratheon bloodright now you dipshit
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>>70257387
He became king based on that bloodclaim shit anon.

Targ blood is why Jon chose him when it could've technically been Ned or Jon Arryn himself as king since they all rose up.
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>>70257390
Lol what? Where are you pulling that shit from? Of the three, Cogman is the only one of them who has done some good work (emphasis on some).
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>>70257393
He would have had to have killed Robert, Stannis and Renly at that point though.

>>70257430
I get that. But AFTER Robert was chosen it as Robert's blood and relation to him which defines who becomes King. Not Targaryen blood.
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>>70257426
kek complains about characters needing to get killed off to leave the show and characters leaving the show without getting killed off in consecutive posts

never change /got/
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>>70257396
More likely they will have the Sand Snakes show up to pledge support to Danny. Get her to have the Ironborn (Euron or Theon), Tyrion, Varys, and the Dorne Bastard club and their assassins guild together as one big Legion of Doom.

Indeed, would not be shocked if that is the big cliffhanger: Danny and her new Legion of Doom all boarding their ships, FINALLY ready to storm Kings Landing, with Dorne and the Iron Born backing up her Second Sons/Unsullied/Slave/Horde army
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Whats up /got/, Preston Jacobs here, ask me anything
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When Tommen dies and R + L =J would Jon have a good claim?

Not because he is a Targ but because Barathons are gone and Targs are close to them?
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>>70257424
Did you forget about Dany's surviving blood rider?
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>>70257423
Yes, but Bombardier
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>>70257421
Cogman was the one who convinced D&D to put it in the show. They were just going to exclude it.
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>>70257430
House Baratheon at its roots is a bastard branch of the Targs so they have a better claim then most.
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>>70257428
Bloodright based on that marriage you fucktard.

What aren't you getting?

If you base shit on a marriage a hundred years ago, it's based on the people and the union of the blood lines at that point, no more people of that exact blood and union, goes back to original family who's blood you're saying lets you get shit
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>>70256662
DELETE THIS
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>>70257450

Oh yeah, fair point.

That'd be crazy obvious. Another rebellion for sure.
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>>70257446
>promise me Ned
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>>70257486
no it changes every time somebody is crowned to their own bloodline
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uh what?

I'm complaining about characters that the writers didnt know what to do with so they just stop writing about them hoping that the audience would be too dumb to remember they existed
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>>70257446
i get fucking triggered everytime i see a gorilla on my facebook

fuck that gorilla. and fuck the kid. they should have shot them both
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>>70257450
>But AFTER Robert was chosen it as Robert's blood and relation to him which defines who becomes King. Not Targaryen blood.

Yes, his blood who's claim is still based on having that Targ blood. There are no more of that blood cause his brothers who carried that same blood are dead, Shireen who carried that same blood is dead and their father is dead

>>70257484
There are unknown Houses that have more recent marriage to the Targs
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>BWB just going to be killed off next week
Man I'm glad I stopped watching this last season.
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>>70257511
so you want even more characters to follow around?
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>>70257255
Is it me or did Dani look pettier in Season 1 and 2?
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>>70257506
Yeah you're clearly not getting it.
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>>70257486

The usurping of the throne was based on Targaryan blood right, once Robert was king the blood right passed to the Baratheon line and voided the necessity for Targaryan blood right.

I don't understand how you don't get this.

Tjey used the Targaryan blood to justify taking the throne, once the throne was taken the claim changed to Robert's line.
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why did pilsbury doughboy steal the sword
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>>70257532
>>BWB just going to be killed off next week
>Man I'm glad I stopped watching this last season.
then how do you know bwb is even involved

12 year olds i swear
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>>70257562
i am, you just dont want to listen to what your being told
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Who has the better claim on Winterfell Jon or Sansa?

Assuming Robb made him legitimate, so a true born daughter or legitimate bastard son?
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>>70257570
>He can bloody well try

Because Sam the Slayer has grown a pair of testicles
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>>70257584
Jon
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>>70256923
High sparrow is fucking rad you bitch. but the rest i couldn't agree more on.
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how come no one is talking about the most based person in this season?

jesus christ he's just what I imagined from the books
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>>70257584
If Robb legitimised then Jon would come before Sansa.
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>>70257563
There are no more people of Robert's line and the wedding he staked his bloodright on you fucking retard.

Would go right back to some with Targ blood again to add legitimacy, just like when Robert used Targ blood from that wedding to add legitimacy.

What aren't you getting?

Targ blood and that marriage is used for legitimacy, Targ blood and some marriage will be used for legitimacy again
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>>70257386
How is that possible? Different actors at different ends of the world?
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>>70257530
>There are unknown Houses that have more recent marriage to the Targs
And? None of them csn claim direct male lineage. Plus most of those marriages are pleb Plumms or Penroses.
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>>70257584
Brann, then Rickon, then Sansa, then Arya, then Jon.

>>70257605
thank god they picked jonathen fuckin pryce to carry that role. its written like shit and the faith is boring
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>>70257584
jon

irrelevant anyway since bran will be at the wall by the end of the season and will claim winterfell after bastardbowl ends and they get a raven telling them as much
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>>70257436
>>70257421
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/game-of-thrones/39270/game-of-thrones-season-5-what-we-learned-from-the-blu-rays

>As no major characters were located there, originally, there were no plans to go to Dorne in season five, until Bryan Cogman came up with the idea of sending two established characters there and pairing Jaime up with Bronn.

Dorne is literally Cogman's own fanfiction that he talked D&D into using. Everyone here memes about them being the cause of it, but the real culprit was Bryan fucking Cogman.
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>>70257530

>his blood who's claim is still based on having that Targ blood.
>still based on havimg that Targ blood
>still

There's your problem. It's not still based on that. It WAS based on that, but it is not any longer. It's based on Baratheon blood now. Targaryan blood doesn't matter NOW. Now only Baratheon blood matters.
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>>70257584
Jon. Cat is dead and she is likely the only person who would be upset over him inheriting Winterfell.
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>>70257582
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>>70257619
he will REVEAL himself by taking his faceless man's mask off
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>>70257572
Because I browse /got/ you fucking buffoon.
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Most disappointing episode thus far...
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>>70257627
You spelled Bronn wrong.
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>>70257617
>Targ blood and that marriage is used for legitimacy

and once he was legitimatised, the bloodline is then baratheon
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>>70257472
Why do you have such a hard-on for Sweetrobin?
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>>70257662
I'm fucking done with (you)
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>>70257654
I thought it was ok.
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>>70257634
I'm now imagining what Dorne would have been like if they postponed it till another season.
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>>70257661
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>>70257472
Is Coldhands working with the Children of the Forest or is he a free agent?
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>>70257617

THE MARRIAHE DOESN'T MATTER.

THE MEANS OF SECURING THE THRONE DOESN'T MATTER AFTER THE THRONE IS SECURED.

Once Robert took the throne, the succession laws changed. Targaryan blood DOES NOT MATTER. THE MARRIAGE DOES NOT MATTER.

The Targaryan House is deposed based on a blood claim and now the new ruling house holds the blood claim. They took it. It's theirs now.

The Targaryans do not matter anymore.
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>>70257472
Why do you have such terrible taste in Boyfus?
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>>70257630
Would the Nights King be able to get by the magic of the wall since he touched Bran?
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>>70257704
he works for brynden
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>>70257648
that would be a nice le twist
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>>70257720
The Masketta Man?
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So just what is up with *this* girl? Arya has to let go of all her emotions, personality and identity, yet this girl gets to keep her own?

She has shown nothing but disdain for Arya since day one, yet shes somehow supposed to be closer to graduation than her? The man also seems to be ok on giving this girl a kill she is clearly wanting to execute. Once again, it's not cool for Arya, but this girl gets a free pass. The man doing the kill would be a way better option, then again, maybe the man can't do it because he has starting to have feelings for Arya too, which actually makes him a failure too.

Maybe being smug about killing a failed faceless (wo-)man is the one thing that isn't strictly forbidden for a girl.

What the fuck is this? What the fuck are these faceless men doing?
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>>70257563
>>70257617
Both of these claims could be used by different houses to stake their claim which would result in civil war. Laws of succession are always bent to serve people's interests. See Phillip of Poitier's accession to the throne in the Accursed Kings.
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>>70257686
>TFW D&D Dorne would've been more faithful to the books and been much better

Fucking Cogman.
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>>70257704
He's working with the Three Eyed Boyfu.
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>>70257610
>based
>hates Sam because he's fat
>Sam has killed more wildlings th an anyone in the room, a thenn, and a white walker
>Dad being shilled as muh racist asshole who probably will die a stupid death so sam and gilly can triumph
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>>70257675
He is right though. You should try studying some history and you would realise that you are wrong.
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>>70257667
It's mostly a play on the joke that people on /got/ and 4chan in general are autistic. It's a common criticism my detractors put on me and I decided to just own it and use Sweetrobin, a character who almost assuredly has autism, as my avatar.
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>>70257572
The fuck is BWB?
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>>70257716
im guessing yes for plot convenience but still to be confirmed

could be that the mark only let him into the cave because he was already inside it at the time and wouldnt make a difference when he crosses into other magic protected areas
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>>70257744
>killed more wildlings th an anyone
And Randyl has killed tenfold that of armored knights.
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>>70257139
Like beat up as in want to beat up or beat up as in actually capable of beating up?

If latter then you posted the only post-pubescent character.
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>>70257751
You wan fug dat boi? Yeah, you wan fug dat boi.
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>>70257757
Brotherhood Without Banners
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>>70257735
>What the fuck is this? What the fuck are these faceless men doing?

Being directed by D&D
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>>70257744
Yeah but isn't Sam's dad actually supposed to be a force to be reckoned with in combat, or was that his brother... or?
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>>70257735
i think she's going to go try to kill arya then of course arya wins. then the long hair dude is going to get an erection
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>>70257711
Of course it does. You just don't just throw away 300 years of history. Targaryen loyalists would back a Targaryen king, people whose interests oppose a Targaryen king would hold up a different claimant.
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>>70257735
It's all a test. The Waif is the one who failed
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>>70257736

They can use a tenuous connection to the Baratheon bloodline to usurp the throne, sure. That's wjat Robert did with his tenuous Targaryan bloodline ties.

If someone tried to use Targaryan bloodline ties to legitimize their claim, that would be just as retarded as using Stark blood to take the Iron Throne, or Volantene blood or whatever. The Targs aren't in succession anymore.
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>>70257472
Why do you hate Bran so much?
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>>70256918
Can I hug her
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>>70257735
I was expecting Johnny Bizarre to say "I promised no one"
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>>70257556
Everyone looked a lot better in season 1 and 2.
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>>70257472
What's your favorite season?
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>>70257744
> He is a narrow man but iron willed, shrewd and capable,[3] and is considered one of the finest battle commanders in Westeros.[4] Randyll prizes courage and martial ability, which causes him to despise his eldest son, Samwell because of his cowardice and softness

Gee I wonder why. The best military mind in The Reach hates a faggot who reads books all day and plays with dolls and just wanted his house to continue after his death. They will probably kill him off in some stupid way tho
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>>70257704
It's hard to say, as far as the show goes. Personally I think he is working for the walkers and luring Bran into a trap. He obviously hates the Children for what they did to him.
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>>70257735
Its seemed all along like the waif was the failure. Arya changed, it took time, she learned. The waif didn't.
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>>70257808
But showing you have a royal bloodline, no matter how tenuous, would give you some legitimacy when claiming the throne. Henry VII is a prime example.
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>>70257675
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>70257849
>>70257849
>>70257849
>>70257849
>>70257849
>>70257849
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>>70257570
To give it to Jon.
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>>70257811
Because he is evil. He ruined Hodor's life and allows himself to be manipulated by Bloodraven
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>>70257808
Yes they are you idiot, Robert's legal claim to the throne was being the preferred descendant of Aegon V that wasn't dead or exiled. Robert was always an extension of the Targaryen rule, and his children continued that.
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>>70257735
I assume she's going to get killed and that was the plan all along and will prove Arya is qualified to take her place but yeah, so much for a shadowy organization cloaked in multiply shadowy layers of secrets. This girl is just a common thug that can do backflips.
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>>70257735
So did the man die? Pretty sure he poisoned himself. Then the girl pulled her face off and she was also the man. But now there is another man and girl who look and behave the same as the first two? WTF is even going on?
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>>70257808
>>70257856
The more I think about it Henry VII is a perfect example. Descended through the female line to the usurped Lancastrian Kings, he claimed the throne and won it from the House of York due to Richard IIIs unpopularity with important lords.
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>>70257795

There are no Targaryan loyalists, except for Doran in the books and now definitely nobody in the show.

If a party put forth a claim on Targaryan blood they would have to declare Robert's reign to be illegal usurping of the throne and if they won, that sentiment would definitely carry the day. So many major houses have tied themselves into the Baratheon rule though, it would never be successful.
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>>70257793
Randyll was feared in the books, known as a skilled commander. We don't hear much about his actual face-to-face combat skills, but he does travel with his greatsword, Heartsbane at his side, so it's likely he is pretty tough and ready to fight whenever.

Sam stealing the sword is retarded. House Swords are retardedly valuable, it would be guarded at all times if not with the owner. I don't know why everyone in TV Westeros has absolutely no control over their posessions at all, even if they're incredibly valuable.

>Heartsbane, stolen
>Meereen fleet, burned entirely
>Ironborn Fleet, mostly stolen by Yara ?? ? ?
>Other examples I'm forgetting about
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>>70257893
Anyone can take a man's place when he is no one.
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>>70256452
>purple eyes
>tall
>thin
Who is this supposed to be? Someone from the books?
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>>70257949
Yeah, but that's dumb as shit.
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>>70257883

You don't understand succession just shut the fuck up.
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>>70257966
Oh I don't disagree. It made slightly more sense in the source material, and it was still dumb there
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>>70257920
But when the Baratheon line ends who do people turn to? The closest house to the Baratheons are probably the Lannisters (distant cousins) but they are seriously unpopular so people might then another Targ connected house to oppose and undermine the Lannisters.
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>>70257972
Wow you really got me with that hot argument friendo
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>>70257893
we're sure arya is still herself since she knew about needle
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>>70258006
jon baratheon ldo

reminder robb stark legitimised him
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>>70257009
If Sansa was with Ramsay in the books, she'd probably get preggo, and take something to have an abortion that'd turn her crazy like her aunt.
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>I'm on probation
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>>70257927
>Ironborn Fleet, mostly stolen by Yara ?? ? ?
That was something, wasn't it?

Like the entire fleet just gone.
>NO PROBLEM LET'S BUILD A THOUSAND MORE BOATS
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>>70258006

If the Tyrell's or Arryns could make a claim and an alliance with each other, sure. As it stands the Tyrell's are likely to benefit from a Lannister crown though so unless they could make a play for themselves, they aren't going to back anyone but Lannister. Ditching House Lannister to back House Arryn would be a risky switch and since the Lannisters already hold KL it would make more sense to stick it out.

The Westerlands have the most battle hardened host south of the neck, the north is in civil strife, the Reach has the most men and the most resource wealth. Arryn is the freshest but the knights of the Vale wouldn't be successful alone against the two.

There isn't really a workable anti-Lannister scenario unless the Tyrell's find a way to make a claim for themselves and enlist Dorne and the Vale against House Lannister.
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>>70257627
What about uncle benjen
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>>70258295
nah niggits watch vows dont allow it
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>>70257610
> Inb4 Sam comes up to Randyll when hes on the toilet and shoots him with a crossbow
> L-l-l-lets see if you shit swords dad!
> Thwunk!
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why don't the dragons just fly the dothraki across the ocean a wagon load at a time, it would only take a few months to a year at a guess
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