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I just got home from watching this and honest to God don't know what the fuck everyone's bitching about.

The movie was amazingly fun for anyone who's played the the games, and my friend (who is as normie as they get and has never touched a Warcraft game) was genuinely impressed.

Best movie I've seen this year by quite a bit.
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>fun for anyone who's played the the games

It should be fun for anybody, not the 5% of moviegoers who actually played it before.
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>>70140452

Did you read my post? It WAS fun for someone who knew nothing about anything too.
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>>70140512
That most explain the 22%
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It was fun as fuck. Much more brutal than expected

>You cheat GUL'DAN!
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>>70140396

I actually ended up feeling a lot more for the characters than I thought I would.
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>>70140396
Same here, saw it with 3 friends with little to no knowledge of Warcraft, we all loved it.

Screw pretentious
>not muh GoT
critics
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from what I've seen, the cons are

>bad human acting
>changes in the lore
>flawed CGI in some places
>pacing
>garona
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>>70140688
how much Gul'Dan do we actually get in this movie? does he get to do/say a lot?
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maximum shilling ITT
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>>70140775

He's a very central and prominent character.
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If this guy shows up I'm in.
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>Leave the Fel to me!

What did he mean by this?
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>>70140775
he plays a huge role, got a lot of screentime
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>>70140540
I got you famalam. Warcraft is high fantasy which is a genre that rarely does well with mainstream. Lotr and GoT are low fantasy and connect more with normies. It doesn't matter if the story is good. There are two types of nerdy. Big Bang Theory nerdy plays off science and comic book kind of nerdy which is in right now. Warcraft is dungeons and dragons nerdy and people don't want or care for that stigma.
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>>70140950
>LOTR is low-fantasy.

Wut?
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>>70140452
>5%
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>>70140950
The first and second Warcraft game had a medieval fantasy feel though.
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>>70140759

I saw it. the human acting isn't any worse than an average GoT episode, which is literally 90% of the criticism "it's not GoT!".

Don't play the games so i don't know the lore.

The CGI is definitely overbearing at times, and the original criticism of "why are some orcs CGI and some live action" is legit. It's really jarring and weird. Gul'dan conceptually/design looks cool but the CGI is so cartoony you can't take him serious. CGI is the biggest legit criticism I have.
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They should have done tv series instead of movie
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>>70140540
you mean RT? Where there's barely 20 reviews?
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>>70140888

He means "I fuck demonbitches".
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As many critics have already said, the human actors were the thing that let the movie down.

Travis Fimmel is like a less charismatic and more boring Jack Sparrow. He's too quirky and dull outside of Vikings, he's just Ragnar in a Warcraft universe.

Medivh accent/voice was really strange, along with his general appearance.

The rest of em just felt like they were phoning it in.

>hurr durr we're all massive mega warcraft fans

pls
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>>70141053

It kinda' is tho.
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>>70141053
it's basically medieval europe mixed with monsters from various northern european folk tales
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Warcraft has a lot more magic than Lord of the Rings.
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>>70141349
>along with his general appearance
Medivh used to look like your typical oldwizard in Warcraft 1 (1994), till they changed his appearance to look like a douchebag in Warcraft 3 (2002).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi1foWvvuas
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I eat shit for breakfast.
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>>70141349

Travis Fimmel played Lotar like fantasy John McClane
I loved it
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>>70141349
Pimmel was the best, friend. The king was stale and kadghar looked like 12
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>>70141053
"Low" is not a quality judgment. It is low fantasy in the sense that magic and magical creatures etc are not that prominent in its universe. LotR has magic but it is mostly subtle. In "high" fantasy, you have things like wizards regularly shooting fireballs, paladins casting heals and monsters everywhere.
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VIDYA KINO
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>>70141053
by today's standards that's low fantasy
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the movie was fine, like jurassic world-level of fine fun and not much more

it's a shame though because the story they had could be so much more, the plot twists and deaths all felt like wasted potential
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>>70141349
>Medivh accent/voice was really strange, along with his general appearance.
>Medivh was really strange
No fucking shit huh
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>>70140873
I'm sure a character from wc3 is going to be in the wc1 movie retard.
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>>70140452
A few million still play WOW and are the target audience besides pandering to Normies

"few"
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so how long is this fucking thing. I'm not watching an epic fantasy movie that is under 2 1/2 hours.
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>>70143196
What are you fucking saying?
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>>70142958
I don't think you know what high fantasy means and how LOTR is high fantasy
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>>70143383
times change
>races all based on folklore, nothing new nor creative
>magic tuned down with many limitations and no visuals
>everything is just like in medival europe, no new/interesting/over the top weapons, architecture
>no siencefiction/cyberpunk/whatever tie-ins
>no gimmicks like time travel etc.

that's low fantasy just like game of thrones in my mind

high fantasy requires more imagination like warhammer, warcraft, >>wheel of time<<
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>>70140452
World of Warcraft's peak subscriber count was close to 11 million.

This is just WoW - not including the RTS games. And that's the peak subscriber count - plenty of people left before that and were replaced with other people.

That said, WoW has become fucking awful lately so it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that 10-11 million are avoiding the movie on principle
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Hopefully Duncan releases a directors cut so it fixes the pacing issues people have been talking about. Apparently they cut around 30 minutes of footage.
It may be a Kingdom of Heaven situation.
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>>70143540
that's also not including players on private servers and most importantly their lates warcraft ip hit hearthstone that had like... 50 milion active players reported?
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>>70143536
That is quite literally not how the definition of high fantasy works lad
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>>70143536
every point you mention just shows the quality of lotr. but not many people actually understand that lotr is like a over generation passed legend based on European folk lore.
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>>70143661
you can argue about the term but the fact stands, lotr is a different cup of tea than for example warcraft and we do not have (nor have we seen one before) IP of this kind in movies
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>>70140396
It wasn't made by Disney/Marvel, so it sucks
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>>70143555
I came back from the movie a little while ago. I am pretty sure 30 minutes of extra footage would have helped the phasing pacing a lot.

The movie went from 0 to 60 in the first minute, and then never dipped below that speed.
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>>70143684
it's not about the quality, I love lotr (movies -books always underwhelemd me even though I gave them more than one try, loved the hobbit though I'm /lit regural, favourite book if on a winter's night traveler - that's if you care ) but they are different genere, that's my point

sure you cna argue that lacing popular themes of YA fiction, the great gatsby is better than some dystopian toilet paper tier novel #2315 but you can't deny that they are different and that's how warcraft is different tha LotR

they do not fit the same niche and while there are many lotr-type movies, there are beahardly any resembiling warcraft (that are not D&D-tier)
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>>70143555
as a warcraft fan I didn't relally have problems with following the story or things happening too fast, I can see that being a minor issue in the very beggining for non-gamers though

I'm just sad about that removed scenes because some of the best stuff from trailer/featurettes (visual-wise at least) did not make it into the movie

i was following the marketing closely and it was sad to see the movie end without some scenes I had already meorized even flashed
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>>70140950
As a marketer I can agree with this point of view.
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>>70143986
Is it true that the classic "They're beasts" wasn't in the movie?
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>>70143897
I would agree if lotr isn't the foundation the fantasy house is built on.
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>>70144025
Yeah, they cut at least 30m of completed footage.
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>>70144063
mfw it's BvS all over again

I'm also hearing that it lacks slow moments in general and that's a pitty
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>>70140396
They will make a second movie... right guys?
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>>70144460
So far it's performing very well at the box office.
Currently it is #1 in 19 of 20 countries it was released it.
If it maintains this pattern for other countries, then there will probably be a sequel.
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>>70144460
as long they can earn money
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>>70144460
if it does well enough in box office, they might

i don't care much for the w1 story but w2, beyond and w3 (that would need it's own trilogy to fit it all along with tft) are dear to me so I hope they'll change the director for them
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>>70144534
>>70144557
I hope so.
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>warcraft 1 with the elast amount of story gets 1 full film and feels rushed as fuck skipping alot of lore anyways
>duncan wants to fit the whole warcraft 2 in one move
>duncan wants to fit the whole warcraft 3 in one move
(1 movie per war he mentioned in some interview)

if he does that, that's gonna be trainwreck, he could never do them justice and both fans and general audiences would be disapointed

you just can't rush things like that
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>>70140775
We get a nude scene
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>>70144708
Can't longer movies work? I felt this one could do good with an extra 30 minutes.
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>>70144708
Pretty sure he said for WC 3 that he'd just focus on the Orc storyline.
Which I don't know how he'd do that without including the others in some way.
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>>70144770
the fans want a arthas trilogy
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>>70144753
you need one for the warcraft 2 story, one for beyond the portal, two for warcraft 3 (human and undead + orcs and night elves) and one for frozen throne

anothing else will just angry the fans and screw up the story

>>70144770
>no arthas
>little to no illidan
I would probably riot if he did that and I bearly played w3
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>>70144708
Hopefully he changes his mind. Should be
>Warcraft 1 in first movie
>Warcraft 2 and exp for second two movies, finishing a trilogy

>Warcraft 3 as a new trilogy
>Movie 1: orcs and human campaigns
>Movie 2: undead and NE campaigns
>Movie 3: tft
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>>70144987
Pretty much. But I can't remember, is the undead and NE campaign in any way related? Might be odd to tell two stories in the same movie who affect each other.

Maybe undead + tft works as one big fat undead adventures movie, with a bit of blood elf illifan shit going on.
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>>70145093
orc and ne campaings are intertwained

ud is a direct followup to human's campaign

just change the pairing and it all works
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>>70145093
who doesn't affect each other*
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>>70144987
I would love to see it like this.
Though, I don't know if an Arthas film would go do well with critics. They'd probably say he's a rip off of Darth Vader or some shit.
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>>70143540
>wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that 10-11 million are avoiding the movie on principle
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>>70144921
>>70144987
the guy's active on twitter, someone with an account better send him this shit before it's too late
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So, random question, shouldn't the Orcs all have red eyes, or do they fall under fell influence sometime after the events of WC 1? I thought they were already enthralled to the demon when they came to Azeroth the first time, but none of them seem to have red eyes in the trailer.
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>>70145557
The canon explanation since WC3 and WoW was that orcs get red for a while immediately after drinking demon blood, and when they calm down they get green again, although still bloodthirsty.
That obviously didn't fit at all with WC1 since they were all green, but apparently they forgot that retcon so in this movie they're green again.
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>>70145093
arthas brings in archimonde and the burning legion and they go to the world tree, so yes they are related.
Also, orcs could arrive in kalimdor in first movie and then have them meet the elves in second.
might be too much to have all that in one movie so maybe it should be four?
>1: Orcs break free and travel to kalimdor. Main focus of movie on arthas and the plague, ends with arthas walking away in the snow like in the campaign, leaving the ending a bit of a mystery for those who dont know the story.
>2: Orcs arrive in kalimdor and mess around with the taurens, Grom fucks with the elves, Arthas makes his new kingdom, maybe end with archimonde being summoned?
>3: The races unite against the burning legion. Obviously ends with Archimonde dying.
>4: Race to the frozen throne, focus on arthas and illidan.

>>70145673
I think they changed it to
Red = drank demon blood
Green = was exposed to fel magic
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>>70145831
>>70145673
I thought it was
Red= drank too much blood
Green= drank blood/exposed to fel
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This disappointment feels like The Hobbit all over again. I hope there at least won't be any sequels.
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>>70145831
>>70145898
I don't really remember, it could be.
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>>70145913
did you see the film or are you just talking BS?

honest question, I've seen it and would love to discuss, personally I enjoyed it (as warcraft fan)
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Does this hew more closely to WoW or to the RTS series? Or is there no difference between the two?
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I'm honestly pissed at critics. This movie was pretty decent. I enjoyed it.
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who the fuck was pic related?
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>>70146161
The story comes from the first RTS game, but the locations and such definitely are inspired/designed with WoW in mind.
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>>70144708
Thats not what I heard. Source?
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So how was Garona half human when they just entered the human world? There was something about them having visited other worlds and having taken prisoners where she learned the language bit I didn't understand it and it felt like a cover up more than an actual explanation.
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>>70146907
Garona was genetically created by Gul'dan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7ayDJw1JU

HOLY FUCK THEY CUT GULDAN'S MOST AWESOME DIALOGUE? WHAT THE FUCK.
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draenei genocide best day of my life
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>>70146368
Aegwyn (not sure if that's how it's spelled) who is medivhs mother and the guardian before him. I'm assuming. >>70146907
Plot twist: she's actually half Draenei
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>>70147019
this mostly sounds like nitpicking tbqh
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>>70144460
Hopefully WoW fan response wins out

Warcraft 2 can work though with the Lich King and slavery of the orcs though I have no idea how to adapt Warcraft 3 as it's a huge 4 campaign story
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>>70143334
Warcraft 3 appearances in the movie:
[x]Grom Hellscream
[x]Thrall
[x]Medivh
[ ]Kel'Thuzad
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>>70147231
No, it was Alodi, the first guardian. For some reason they made him a chick though.
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>>70140396

The rape scene was a little over the top. A few people walked out of the theater at that point. Overall it's not worth the time.
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>>70140396
I STILL HAVE TO WAIT 2 WEEKS TO SEE THIS

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>70140396
>Best movie I've seen this year by quite a bit.
Anon...
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>>70141184
Dont worry there will be 2 sequels to this :)
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>>70140396
Should I take my friend who is a big fan of Marvel quips to see this movie or not?
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>>70141053
>people think LotR is high fantasy

Just more evidence of normies invading nerd culture.
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>>70142958
"Low" fantasy is also referred to as Swords and Sorcery.
Conan the barbarian basically. Magic is rare/unheard of by most of the inhabitants-- Wizards aren't good people you want to send your kids with, they are creepy practitioners of arcane shit that people aren't supposed to be messing with.
Very few "other" races. Trolls and orcs and elves are again, very rare and almost always depicted as weird as fuck and characters are surprised that they actually exist at all.
Mythical monster are mostly relegated to having been brought forth by said creepy wizard. Most monsters tend to be giant snakes, gorilla-like things and Lovecraftian shit found in deep deep dungeons.
Anytime you've got a council of Elves and Dwarves talking about how best to avoid attacks by orcs and trolls, you've got High Fantasy, of which LoTR is the fucking gold standard.
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>>70149301
I simply cannot buy into anything with names like that. i see what Mark Kermode was talking about when he compared this to John Carter.
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>no Ner'Zhul
>Stormgrad aren't burning
>Kadgar doesn't become grandpa
>King "PLEASE KILL ME GARONA" Llane
>Anduin "remember, no emotions" Lothar
>shitty soundtrack
>poor editing

it was shit
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>>70150174
I took my friend that's never played Warcraft but enjoyed LotR quite alot. The film is different from most films people have seen, action packed, breathtaking CGI, violence, unexpected deaths, a bit lacking in dialogue so viewer must sometimes fill in the blanks, but it's a 3hour movie cut to 2h15m so what do you expect. I'd say overall very enjoyable definitively worth the ticket.
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>>70150351
Will there be an extended cut?
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>>70150304
You expect the orcs to be Johns and Malcoms? But it's not many names that you have to keep up with.
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>>70140396
it's not owned by disney pleb
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>>70150421
I would expect they won't throw away scenes worth millions in the trash. It'll almost 100% be like LotR, simpler theatre movie and then an in depth directors cut Blu-ray release.
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>>70150608
GOOD I so hope please based Duncan
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>>70145898
You are correct sir.

Green drank blood or was exposed to high levels of ambient fel energy.

Red Drank too much fel blood.

Red skin with spike mutations way way too much fel blood.
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>>70149301

Characters who happened to be already alive and existing in WC1:

[x]Grom Hellscream
[x]Thrall
[x]Medivh

Character who was still a human and not even a Lich during WC1:

[x]Kel'Thuzad

Now go and die retard
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>>70150339
>no Ner'Zhul

This triggers me
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Duncan has said he wants to maintain a 50/50 split between Alliance and Horde throughout the 3 movies. But how would he continue the "noble savage" theme for the orcs in Warcraft 2?
It's been a while since I've played it but isn't Doomhammer just as warlike as the other orcs by then?
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>>70140396

>no quips
>no fun

this movie sucked
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>>70154538
he is but he believes in honor more than anything, the war is short anyway so what I imagine happening is that they just show bits of the war and then timeskip to thrall in durnholde
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>>70140950
I wish retards like you would actually educate yourself on what 'low' and 'high' fantasy actually means. It has nothing to do with magic use or overthetopness.

Low fantasy is set in the real world with fantasy elements, while high fantasy is set within it's own universe and follows that universes rules and physical laws.
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I have only one question, did it end like the game with Stormwind being overrun by the horde?

Cause if not, I will be incredibly disappointed.
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>>70156279
From what I hear it doesn't, but ends with the armies of Stormwind getting rekt.
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Kermode review. The only worhty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC-8ghk9ojk
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>>70156614
I suppose I can deal with that, but it's not as great as Stormwind getting rekt.
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>>70141503
No, the LOTR Univers IS high fantasy if you would knew the Silmarillion you would understand Tolkin.
Gigantic demons destroying continents, wizards and Eagles fighting against dragon's, literally millions orcs fighting hundreds of thousands of humans, elves and dwarfs.
>>70141561
Shut the Fuck up you cuck, Tolkin literally invented fantasy, without him warshit would not exist.
I was never haiting in Warcraft, but you manchildren seems to bash on the best fantasy Univers that is out there.
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>>70156667
I think it could be cool to open the second movie with the sacking of Stormwind. If this pattern of #1 openings continues in other countries we may see a second film.

I hope by that time Khadgar gets turned into Foxxy Grandpa, too. Although I still haven't seen the movie so I don't know if that happens and whether or not the opportunity has passed.
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>>70156769
Why are you so hostile? The only thing he said was that there is more magic in Warcraft, which is true. People throw arcane missiles like it's going out of style.

You don't need to go into an autistic rant because you read the Silmarillion, we get that there's more to LoTR, but the movies present a medieval European setting + orcs and monsters.
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>>70156279
Nope
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>>70156856
Sorry, I was a little over reacting.
I just don't get it, why Warcraft and Got fans are haiting other fantasy Universe's, a specialy lotr, since Tolkin invented it.
Why can't we just respect each other?
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>In China, ticket pre-sales for the release night are already the sixth highest ranking movie of all time.
>Unfortunately the news isn't as great in the US, with an opening projection of only $25 million.

Once again, a quality barren CGI shitfest will be a massive success thanks to chinks loving to chug liquid shit.
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>>70157188
What about Europe?
I guess as shit as the US?
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It's not owned by disney and doesn't have enough quips, why critics hate it.
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>>70157222

Nope, Yurocucks are chowing it down too.

>Deadline is reporting that in 19 of the 20 markets it opened in, it was the #1 movie.
>In Germany, the movie had the biggest opening of the year so far, with 45% market share.
>In Russia, the movie had the second biggest opening, with 65% market share.
>Variety is reporting that the Russian opening was only behind Deadpool this year, with the seventh biggest opening day of all time in Russia.
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>>70157222

Pretty much, yes.

At this point the only possible option for sequel is a straight to video shitfest with a nobody director and cast and a lower budget.
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>>70157260

>some irrelevant shitholes

Wow... Fucking nothing.

The only market that matters is the US.
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Anyone who calls themselves a "Warcraft fan" and still likes this movie can actually go and kill themselves right now. This movie was such a fucking disappointment.

>Retcon Orcs once AGAIN
>ORCS ARE NOBLE BEINGS
>ORCS SOLVE THING BY WAAAAAAAAAR
>Humans being part of an alliance before the First War even started
>Garona retconned to a good guy (let her near the king two minutes after meeting her lmaooooo)
>Khadgar has a significant role in this movie
>MEDIVH DIES?!
>Gul'Dan being the reason Draenor died
>Orgrim Doomhammer being a frostwolf???
>Only Durotan/Gul'Dan/Doomhammer and Blackhand were the only Warchiefs who got to say somthing. Even though both Grom Hellscream and Kargath Bladefist were on screen
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>>70157381
Do you live under the rock? Europeans population is by 200 millions bigger
China is the biggest country in the world.
Please educat your self, my american yuppie friend.
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>>70141168

Except with magic.
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>>70143382

I think it's 2.40 or something.
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>>70143555

Man, I remember KOH. That movie went from really poor to really good with the DC.
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>>70157771

Fuck off cucklord.

Orcs were portrayed 100% as they were in WC3 + expansion to current day WoW.

Showing their culture instead of just 40k-waaagh clones is much more interesting in the long run.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>70157381
>The only market that matters is the US.
Objectively incorrect.

Hell, based on where Blizzard's money's coming from you should consider yourself lucky they even used American actors.
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>>70141053
>>70141355
>>70143196
>>70150212
>>70143536
>>70143736
That doesn't seem right.
You can argue that LotR isn't high fantasy because it has some elements of low fantasy. But if you go by that logic you could also argue it's not low fantasy because it has some elements of high fantasy. You can make the case that LotR falls somewhere in the middle but saying it's low fantasy really doesn't make sense.
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>>70157771
You complain about retcons yet you clearly don't even know the lore very well since half the things you listed are all correct for the first war.
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>>70157771

I'll take the bait

>Retcon Orcs once AGAIN

They changed Orgrims clan, Grom participating in the war and the deaths of three orcs. Overall it's the same to be honest.

>ORCS ARE NOBLE BEINGS

They value honor in battle and enjoys a good fight; if possible they prefer to die in a glorious battle. In a sense they're like vikings and it's been like that since Warcraft III. I also highly suggest that you read the novels before you complain.

>ORCS SOLVE THING BY WAAAAAAAAAR

As long as there's honor in war.

>Humans being part of an alliance before the First War even started

Diplomacy with other kingdoms are to be expected. Quite similar to the canon lore you are familiar with, they didn't manage to get help from the others during the first war.

>Garona retconned to a good guy (let her near the king two minutes after meeting her lmaooooo)

She was on their side during the first war, it was always like that. Her final scenes were slightly retconned though.

>Garona retconned to a good guy (let her near the king two minutes after meeting her lmaooooo)

Read "The Last Guardian", Khadgar had a big role in this movie.

>MEDIVH DIES?!

Yes? Are you not familiar with the lore?

>Gul'Dan being the reason Draenor died

He was? Again, read the novels; specifically "Rise of the Horde".

>Orgrim Doomhammer being a frostwolf???

Correct, that was retconned in the movie.

>Only Durotan/Gul'Dan/Doomhammer and Blackhand were the only Warchiefs who got to say somthing. Even though both Grom Hellscream and Kargath Bladefist were on screen

Yes, they indeed got screentime. But they didn't play a major role in the first war, you should actually be happy that you got to see them.
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On one hand i want to support the franchise even though the visuals seem terrible, but on the other hand i hate how they butchered the lore to appeal to normies and want to see blizzard fail for both WoD and this shit.
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OK, so i saw this tonight and i got three words for you

HELLA
FUCKING
EPIC

jesus christ.
hardcore warcraft fans (such as me) will love how true it is to the lore. i cant believe how true some of the settings were!

and for people who don't know about warcraft or don't care, trust me, once you buy a ticket on June 10th, you will probably buy a second one to watch again. it's that good.
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>>70140396

Fuck off reddit
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>>70159592

All of this to be honest familio.
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>>70159722

End yourself popfag.
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>>70159663
It's not bad. If your desire to see it is greater than your desire to not see it, then you should. Captain obvious to the rescue!
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>>70140396
>why everyone said it's shit.
Well, people these days judge the movie from the critics especially the big one like RT and MC so if these guys said it's bad then they'll said it's bad.
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>>70159722

The score went down even more?

O i am laffin'
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>>70160361

It's weird, isn't it? Critics are suppose to be objective unsullied voices that help the filmmakers improve, yet it's become some sort of guiding light for the personality-free masses.
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>>70160361
>Well, people these days judge the movie from the critics especially the big one like RT and MC so if these guys said it's bad then they'll said it's bad.

>Nevermind the lackluster trailers with poor human acting

>Nevermind the unconvincing advertising

>Nevermind sneak peeks with on-stage sets about as convincing as Star Trek at its worst

>Neverming having red flags all over the place due to who has been allowed to tell the team what the story should be

It was all those Rotten Tomatoes critics, I swear it!

Please fuck off to battle.net.
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>>70160412
>Critics are suppose to be objective unsullied voices that help the filmmakers improve.

They're not trying to be that to begin with if anything they trying to be "The King" from the get go. Don't you noticed that a smart ass director these day make their movie suit with the critics's taste because they knows that these guy are the one who spread the WoM these day and people will rolls with it no matter what.
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>>70160526
What? I simply said most people judge a movie from their opinion or a score(I don't think they'll waste their time reading these guys opinion.). You said like I portray these guy as some kind of gramp of all evil, Are you fucking high?
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>>70143536
> High fantasy requires imagination, like Warhammer, Warcraft, Wheel of Time

Kill your fucking self.
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>>70143181
It's a good thing RT is trash :^)
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As somebody who really liked Warcraft 2 and 3, but hated WoW and everything it did to the lore, would I like this movie?
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>>70140396
>The movie was amazingly fun

Yes, if you're an imbecile. Just like Transformers, or Star Trek, or Hunger Games.

dropped
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>>70157771
>>MEDIVH DIES
Well yeah. It's kinda hard to be reincarnated as a prophet if you don't die first.
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>>70159722
B A S E D

Warcraft is at 21% now.
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>>70160977
>as someone who really likes painting would I like these photographs
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>>70160977
most likely no

the fantasy armor is wow style ridiculous for one, and the orcs are wow huge

for two, they completely fucked up the story to make it better suited for Hollywood

it's just garbage, that's all. Blizzard trying to milk fans for 3 installments - not gonna happen, with me at least. I regret even paying €13 and wasting 2 hours to watch the first one.
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>>70160708
You did imply that people were convinced to disliking the movie because of critics on RT.
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>>70140396
>The movie was amazingly fun for anyone who's played the the games

So for people like me who never played the games it will be awful? Thanks for that.
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>>70161026
>"I'm angry others have fun!"
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>>70161843
Did you read the next sentence he wrote?
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>>70140452

fucking everyone under 30 has played a warcraft game
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>>70143743
Ok RT shill
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>>70161843
You don't belong on this website so that post wasn't for you.

>>70162506
The same sentence actually, so I doubt it.
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>>70162585
Definitely not true, you are retarded.
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>>70162585
They really haven't.
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>>70141213
Good point maybe the next 20 will be positive. Or maybe they won't because it's a shitty flick.
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>>70140396
>Best movie I've seen this year by quite a bit.
You're either a terrible shill or you need to see a second movie this year.
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>>70159663
Blizzard is run by Activision and the rights for Warcraft are owned by Legendary Pictures they are the ones who prophet off this movies success not Blizzard if anything this might push blizzard for a rerelease of HD Warcraft Games or something
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>>70162666
>The same sentence actually, so I doubt it.

S-so you're either a mongoloid or illiterate, or both?
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Every time someone likes a movie they're instant shills on /tv/. What is OP just has horrible standards and just really liked the movie? Why does he have to be some business guy in a suit to you people? Can you not fathom that others may enjoy others things than you?
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>>70162896
>Why does he have to be some business guy in a suit to you people?
Don't be silly - shills are millenials sitting at home in their sweatpants.
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>>70141053
Low fantasy feels like its set in a possible ancient history, not an alternate reality.
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It was okay. Nowhere near as bad as 21%. Think that just ties in with the "Warcraft is stigmatised so I better write negatively about it".
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>>70162689

When warcraft 3 came out literally every male in my school was playing it. Also normies love hearthstone
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>>70162960
Marvel films get much better scores and I'll be damned if they're any more interesting or engaging. CGI is more impressive in Warcraft.
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>>70162980
marvel movies are filmed like a tv show. absolutely the cheapest shit
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>>70162960
See, I dont get the score at all. Pretty much every reviewer Ive seen says they liked it, if there has been a "I fucking hate this piece of shit movie" review then I havent seen it. How did they get that score when so many people think its at least average?
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>>70162960

The worst is, I went in expecting to hate it, and had a great time.
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>>70162585
Lol get real, now a call of duty movie? That would resonate.
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>>70163159
21% isn't an aggregated rating like you get from metacritic, it's the percentage of reviews that were positive. Reviews close to the middle get pushed one way or the other by the people in RT because their system is binary.
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>>70163339
Well that sounds fucking dumb and very misguiding. An average movie is not a bad movie, this score is making it out like its literally among the worst of the worst.
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The fucking soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uriUPxg-YVo
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The entire ost is out fagoots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KH--zeFyGI
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>>70163455
It's misguided to look at reviews of a movie based on a videogame at all. Before you even click the link, you should know RT is going to give it rotten and probably hovering somewhere between 10 and 30%. These movies don't do well with critics. People should just see it themselves and make up their own mind.

What I can't wait for it five years from now when that shit comes on TV. That's going to be the comfiest shit of all time. Don't even care if it's good or not. The nostalgia train will have already left the station.
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>>70163743
>People should just see it themselves and make up their own mind
P-please buys some tickets, guys!
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>>70163743
Ehhh, people look at those ratings. And based on those ratings people will or wont see a movie, and from that, the movie wont make as much money and wont get anything beyond itself, the ratings before release definately affect the movie. This movie is average according to most people, and Im ok with that, what I wanted is a series of movies set in a world that isnt Star Wars or capeshit, anything for fuck sake, I will literally follow anything that arent these played out fucking franchises, by the looks of it Warcraft stops here, and this is the weakest section of Warcraft as a whole.
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>>70163878
The former doesn't correlate with the latter. The movie will make cash despite the pompous assholes writing those reviews.
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>>70163799
>buying a ticket is the only way to see a movie
Hey grandpa, it's time for you to take your medicine
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>>70163878
>>70163946
Word of mouth is the main factor, I think. That's what will make or break this movie. They aren't even advertising it that much. I think this is what they've relied on.
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You don't make a movie about Warcraft 1's story if you don't intend to make all the necessary sequels.

The sequels will come. Arthas's story MUST be told.
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>>70164145
It will depend on how this one does at the box office and its reception from the audience. They're in it solely for the money now. I just wish they had made this movie eight years ago at the height of WoW popularity. I have a bad feeling that the Arthas story will never make it to the screen.
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>>70164352
Last time I checked it was doing rather well.
Pretty sure it was #1 in 19 of the 20 countries it's released in so far.
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>>70163547
>>70163465
Completely forgettable.
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>>70164438
KYS
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>>70162585
t. neckbeard with no friends
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>>70164036
The word of mouth is going to be absolutely terrible, if there's any.
Only people who liked the movie will think it's even close to decent.
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>>70162980
Yeah, Warcraft looks so expensive and well filmed.
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>>70163054
And this one is filmed like a 90's TV show, with 90's TV show quality sets and props, your point?
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>>70164523
It's a complete cinematographical achievement, look at this.
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>>70164582
It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.
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>>70164523
someone add a brazzers logo @ the bottom.
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>>70164523
They wanted it to look like Warcraft, but the games looks sterile and cartoony, it just doesnt work here. Everything is so fucking clean and has absoloutely no flaws or weathering.
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>>70164523
It's funny that in some shopped pics the shopped things fit in as well as the characters.
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>>70164626
the greenwoman makes this look like a parody. Its literally a human painted to green. At least find a woman with muscles and shit, she seems chubby. Whoever pays for this is basically admitting that they have low IQ and deserves to be taken for a fool.
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>>70164666
They stayed loyal to the game's artstyle but forgot the games run on graphic engines made in the 90's.
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>>70164667
those footman in the front look shopped.
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>>70164626
>>70164582
>>70164667
I still don't know how they managed to make the armors look like CGI even though they are real props.
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>>70164666
The thing is that whoever the fuck worked on the designs they stayed loyal to the graphic quality of them, and not just to the artstyle.
They look straight out of a videogame, like they were literally rendered on a game graphics engine.
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>thread on /tv/ has been up for 15 hours
>unironically praising this piece of shit
Shill thread.
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>>70164731
see
>>70164666
They have no flaws and have been worked to perfection, so it looks fake. Real life has flaws and grit, CG does not, looking at the cloth people wear, it all looks freshly pressed and laundered, not a flaw. It looks like every time they saw a crease or fold in someones clothes they stopped everyone and flatted out the creases or at least tried to, they then went and cleaned the clothes so there isnt a spec of dirt or wear on them.
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>>70163465
That was pretty lame.
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>>70163465
Even Djawadi half-assed this one.
Seriously, did anyone care about this movie at all?
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>>70164836
Why couldn't they have just made it a fully CGI movie instead of randomly shifting from real people to fake looking CGI?
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>>70164945
For some reason videogame-movie makers still think live-action fits them.
It doesn't, unless it's something like Uncharted, it's going to look fucking awful.
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>>70164945
To expensive
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>>70165000
Maybe they were afraid a fantasy movie about humans fighting orcs wouldn't be taken as seriously if it were entirely animated. So they only animated half of it.
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>>70165061
Surely Blizzard could have afforded it.
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>>70165098
It takes approximately 8-10 months for Blizzard to create their WoW cinematics
It would cost a fuckton to hire animators that good that could make a movie in a reasonable time

Also humans are really hard to animate
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>>70164945
Legitimacy. There are people who wont watch a movie that is animated, this rules out an entire demographic of people if youre movie is animated. It wouldve been good for the movie, but not for sales. Also that "I cant connect to whats on screen because its not real" crowd, it pushes more people away than it brings in, remember, videogame adaptations are not for fans, theyre for everyone else. Every adaptation of a videogame goes completely around what makes the games popular, every single time. I guarantee that Warcraft will revolve mostly around political intrigue and character development, and not fucking humans fighting orcs. These movies are not winning awards, they need to stop doing this shit.
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>>70140396
check out Metzen on the movie set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryOwayI8ee0
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>>70164945
To be fair, some parts look really good. Some of the orcs looks fucking life like.
What ruins it is some shots with bad greenscreen and digital backgrounds that looks... really digital.
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>>70144460
If Snyder can do it, everyone can
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>>70165221
Apparently the scene he was in got cut out. Along with roughly 30 minutes of footage.
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>>70165183
>I guarantee that Warcraft will revolve mostly around political intrigue and character development, and not fucking humans fighting orcs
It's mostly about humans fighting orcs, orcs fighting orcs, and humans fighting a demon

Source: me
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>>70165183
I'm pretty sure most people would have been turned off by the title alone, since video game movies are rarely ever good and many people see them as even more puerile than capeshit.

>remember, videogame adaptations are not for fans, theyre for everyone else.

Also this. I guess they're assuming fans will eat it up any turd they shit out no matter how steaming it is.
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>>70165323
Oh good, Its an actual videogame movie for once. Look forward to it.
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>>70146368
Alodi. It was such a retarded thing.
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>>70144534
It's going to be a complete domestic flop though.
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>>70159515
It doesn't seem right because "low and high fantasy" are not actual terms.
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Legitimately one of the worst movies i've seen in years.
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>>70150212
It's not like you neckbeards have ever been relevant.
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>>70140396
>The movie was amazingly fun for anyone who's played the the games
People only play minecraft nowadays, grandpa
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>>70165061
Consider how much Avatar cost - massive CGI movies aren't cheap.
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>>70141608
WC3 Medivh was best Medivh.
I thought Ben would be the only redeemable human player but it's disappointing to see how uncharismatic he is.
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I'm going to see it thursday. I hope the critics are wrong.
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>>70164626
>>70164582
>>70164523

Honestly? These are the kinda' things you notice in pictures, but when it's all moving you barely register it.
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>>70166011

They are.
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>>70146907
isnt garona half ork half draenei?
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I'd go as far as to say that this a great movie.

Not a solid 10/10, but a nice 8/10. Maybe a 9, depending on how much of a nerd you are for this stuff already,
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>>70152611
they even showed Kargath Bladefist 2 times
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To everyone complaining, apparently a lot was cut out.

I know this because the comic con footage didn't make it in the final cut. Hopefully, this will be fixed in an extended edition.
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Look.

All video game movies failed to satisfy the fans. Warcraft is the only one which managed to satisfy them. You're going to satisfy both fans and the general audiences in one go.

These critics can whine all they want, because they know they can't stop vydiakino. The wave is coming, and Warcraft is the scout.
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>>70166600
You're not going to*
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The main issue is stupid script full of cliche moments. Like the moment i saw Lotar's son i knew he'd die. CG is good, overall movie 8/10 but just for Warcraft feel. Waiting for sequel.
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>>70166600
As much as I want this to be true it just wont happen, good directors flat out dont play videogames, so youre always going to end up with something that misses the entire feeling of the source material and is just plain shit as a movie itself. Take the resident evil movies, Paul W.S Anderson flatout said he had never played any of the games before filming the first movie, its why its so fucking wierd and different with new characters and plotlines. Hitman too, both of them, both directors never played the games and just made what they THOUGHT the games were like. The list goes on.

I still want to see an Xcom movie, with drones flying overhead watching everything, and helmet cams to see whats happening. Something like in Pacific Rim where you get characters in a base then they get the call and are sent to fight aliens whilst having a disregard for collateral damage and civilian life.
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>>70150339
>Anduin "remember, no emotions" Lothar

wtf

This guy and the orcs are carrying the movie.
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Was Lothar made king at the end of the movie? How'd that happen?

Last king dies and the new one is just whoever happened to pick up the body?
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>>70167610
He was made commander of the Alliance army.
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>>70140396
holy shit the shills are out today
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