I did not expect this. I did not ask for this. This shit tore me up inside. Where is my fun space soap?
>>70111023
That's the power of Janeway.
She makes the rules and you don't, playa'.
Damn! This shit makes my brain hurt.
http://www.debate.org/debates/Tuvix-Was-Murdered/1/
u mad?
>>70111023
>fun
I think you're confusing trek for lost in space or something.
>>70111321
Not mad. Sad and sad that Janeway took a decision based on her own personal feelings rather than the rights of an individual to life. The lives of Tuvok and Neelix had been forfeit. Whether by design or accident it is irrelevant. The fact that nobody was willing to step in and tell Janeway she was fucking wrong and a cold hearted murderer makes it even worse. Her decicion also broke both the law and the federation code. If it were possible, would you allow someone to kill you to bring back your parents who had died in an accident? Remember the will to survive is quite strong regardless of your family ties.
>>70111294
>First of all, while Tuvok and Neelix were innocent throughout this incident, Tuvix purposely deprived the two of life for his own sake. While the transporter may be responsible for the initial merging, Tuvix's refusal to remedy the situation makes him guilty of the twos' continued destruction. Secondly, unlike Tuvix, the two men had histories, families, and essential roles on the ship
That argument sounds like a serious slippery slope if constantly applied
>it's a "Data is infected by an organic virus" episode
>it's a "Voyager is infected by an organic virus" episode
Why is this allowed?
>>70111579
This comes down to the God complex. As I stated above. You are given the power to 'revive' the dead. In this case both Tuvok and Neelix have for all intents and purposes...passed on. The merged entity although an amalgamation of the biological and mental properties of the two is still in fact...a single entity and sentient to boot. It is self aware and fully comprehends its own demise. Thus it desires to continue in its existence for as long as possible.
Janeway assumed the role of a God in making a judgement based on a personal emotional response. She desires the return of her two lost colleagues as does the rest of the crew. They are also complicit in this decision by simple act of not going against her. But that is the entering into an argument of whether you go against 'God' (The captain who has the final word on everything on the ship apart from the doctor who could have stepped in and said she is unfit to make such a decision due to mental impairment or going against starfleet code).
Again. If you could kill an innocent to revive two other innocents who had already passed on would you? Janeway decided to break every code she holds dear for personal gain.
Transporter trace Thomas Riker.
>We'll head down to engineering, store ourselves in the transporter buffer, and wait for all this to blow over.
It was a solid plan until Scotty ate the other guy.
>>70112127
My sides...his sides....into orbit!
>>70112127
>Geordi to Enterprise, there's some sort of pattern lodged in the buffer, it's too large to be human, possibly a whale.
>>70112215
Careful. That whale knows the ship like the back of its hand. Oh shit its hit a bulkhead. Abandon ship!
>>70112179
Is that red matter?
>>70112127
Any way we can get you to replace the Riker's genitals guy?
>>70111720
At least Voyager had "bio-neural" gel packs that simulated organic matter.
Data, on the other hand, was entirely non-biological.
>Still we can feel grateful because we got to see Tasha lookin' sexy before getting that Android [CENSORED]
"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
>>70111914
Am I the only to think that Tuvok would've found the situation wholly untenable after the fact?
Vulcans are constantly shown to be the real Trek race in terms of willingness to die for one's principles and I think he would've found Janeway's decision grossly out of line.
There was even an episode where Janeway and the crew end up in "The Void" (Season 5) and later Chakotay, Tuvok, and then the rest of the crew have to decide whether to let the Captain hold off the Malon for the race being poisoned by them.
There was a scene in that show where Chakotay and Tuvok are being blunt with each other and they both agree "She's as stubborn as a Klingon".. Tuvok replies "To put it mildly" in regards to her inability to change once she's made up her mind.
She has to be the biggest fuck up of a captain in terms of hypocrisy, ethics & morality, and shows she embodies all the stereotypes they wished to dissuade with the show in women: can't get around her feelings to make the best decision for her crew.
>>70112851
Let me redhypospray you on bio-neural gel packs, /trek/.
Feeling the difference now isn't the reason to store holograms on bio-neural gel. Bio-neural circuitry uses lossless compression, while isolinear circuitry is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the holofile sits on your isolinear storage assembly, it will lose roughly 12% cohesion, assuming you have isolinear chips - it's about 15% depolarization on isolinear memory modules, but only 7% fragmentation on isolinear rods, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on duotronics or other optronic media.
I started collecting holoprograms in about 2347, and if I try to play any of the holosimulations I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320% efficient encoding, they just run like an Armus. The polygon vector resolution is terrible, the midrange photonic balance... well don’t get me started. Some of those holoprojections have degraded down to 32 or even 16 fractal recursion layers. Holonovels stored on bio-neural gel from the same period still run great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry computer core. Seriously, stick to bio-neural gel, you may not be able to feel the difference now, but in a thousand stardates or two, you’ll be glad you did.
>>70113404
>mfw this is probably canon
>its a recycled story episode
Further evidence that Janeway was unfit for duty but would've destroyed the EMH on her way out.
>since when did the federation condone "hanging"?
>"it was facetious you fucking moron"
>CAN YOU REALLY BE SO SURE?
>>70113789
>it's an Enterprise episode that's just Shadowplay again
>it's an Enterprise episode that's just One again
>it's an Enterprise episode that's just Jetrel + The Visitor again
Wew.
Ugh, Voyager had so much potential and pissed it all away
DS9 is the only good Star Trek show
>>70114131
ds9 was the worst series, even worse than that prequel one that nobody watched. The whole point of star trek is to be comfy sci-fi and ds9 ruined it by being filled with nonsensical religious bullshit.
>>70114182
The religious stuff is like 1% of what DS9 was, fedora tipper
>>70112851
What organic virus does Data get infected with?
Which episode?
>>70114329
The one where he has sex with Tasha.
>>70114220
THE SISKOOOOO
>>70114352
was he infected or just reluctant to disagree with Tasha?
In the early episodes of TNG he's super robot-like in how he deals with things.
I'm willing to argue he wasn't infected.
>>70114427
Stop posting, please.
>>70114547
Explain why I'm wrong and show that Data was infected by the same virus that made everyone drunk.
>>70111023
>>70111446
I actually really like this personal flaw in Janeway, she wanted her best friend back and being an emotional human being that isn't perfect she made a questionable decision, great. Honestly I liked Janeway all through voyager with the exception of that series finale where it felt like they didn't know how to actually end the show so they just made up some flashy bullshit.
>>70114593
He was so drunk that he fell down on the floor of the bridge.
He was also cured by the same cure that cured everyone else.
>makes enemies with almost every new species they encounter
>only maintained friendly relations with like 2 races during the entire trip
why was janeway such a shitty diplomat? It's like she WANTED to get attacked constantly.
>>70114863
her main focus was to get home, not to become friends with everyone she met
if she'd been there on official federation business she'd have been a lot more diplomatic in her encounters
>>70114945
It's shown several times throughout the show if she just used more diplomacy they would have gotten home faster
Hell, they say that in the finale
>>70114945
Janeway represents the Federation, regardless of her mission. Just because getting home is the priority doesn't mean she gets to ruin every first contact and leave a trail of destruction in her wake.
>>70115275
Angry reminder Dukat did everything right.
>>70115275
>>70115392
DS9 episode 1:
>"Don't go in that wormhole, Dukat. The Prophets will get you if you do."
>"Please, Major, everything will be fine. AAAHHH, IT'S NOT FINE, SOMEBODY SAVE ME, AAAAAHHHHH."
DS9 episode 130:
>*wheezes* "I cannot al-low hyou to let THOSE SHIPS hinto the Al-pha Quad-rant, Dukattington!" *laughs maniacally*
>"Please, Benjamin, everything will be fine. AAAHHH, IT'S NOT FINE, I NEED MY ZIYAL, AAAAAHHHHH."
>>70112279
That reminds me of a section in the Star Trek Next Generation Technical Manual. It implies that a Galaxy class ship has dolphins and a couple whales on board doing guidance and navigation research.
>>70114863
i remember these fuckers. theres one who looks like giorgio tsoukalosand even does that "aliens" pose he does. i remember that years ago i put "humans" on it
>>70115658
They're probably Xindi
>>70115680
It belongs to the world now.
>ds9 started off great
>storyline based around a provisional government created after a 50 year occupation
>dukat was a complex character with a multifaceted and conflicting moral code
>end of series
>wars and assploshuns
>dukat is a mustache twirling villain with the "archenemy to sisko theme shoved down our throat
Deep shit 9
>>70114945
Actually, in Prey, she explicitly disregards the safety of her ship all on the premise that being nice and saving the life of one single Species 8472 alien who invade her ship and had 6 Hirogen ready to kill her is the right thing to do.
It had nothing to do with her getting the crew home, it had to do with an abysmally low level of intelligence and adherence to federation dogma to the point where Seven was entirely right yet the writers presented her as being entirely right the entire time, no other member of the crew spoke up (similar to the Tuvix situation).
>>70115641
8/10 meme, would repost.
TNG, DS9, and Voyager are all great shows. They all have their flaws and plenty of shitty episodes but overall they make great television.
>>70116064
fantastic
>>70114863
If we're talking about the Kazon, I think they're getting triggered when they learned a woman is commanding an advanced starship like Voyager
>>70116156
I'll believe it when I see it.
Lads and lasses, it's 2016 and Nana Visitor is still a cute.
A CUTE.
>>70116355
She doesn't look that much older
>>70116355
>litierally just learned she's getting the MIC from Bashir irl
>>70111914
the entire argument is stupid because no one was actually killed.
Did the personality known a Tuvix cease to be, yes, but his physical makeup was merely split in two, returning him to his component parts.
taking parts out of a computer doesn't destroy the computer, it merely disassembles it.
Furthermore, the two he merged from arent dead. His continued existence doesn't mean their continued death.
the argument is simply whether they had the right to force tuvix into something he didn't want to do.
And guess what? Every government on the fucking planet does that.
>>70114220
Oooh... im a DS9 fan and even i know that's beyond wrong.
>>70116487
>Argues that being relies on something other than knowing you exist but doesn't clarify what
>Appeals to government authority
Know how I know you're underage? ;^)
>>70116639
>didn't argue that
>didn't appeal to that
try again
>>70116836
If this had been an episode of DS9, then Sisko would have kept his children. And they would have appeared at least once a season for the rest of the series. And he would have taught them how to play baseball.
Janeway is heartless.
>>70116677
>>didn't argue that
>>the entire argument is stupid because no one was actually killed.
Yeah? Gonna go ahead and describe how that second quote isn't saying Tuvok and Neelix aren't dead despite their continued consciousness being snuffed?
>>didn't appeal to that
>>And guess what? Every government on the fucking planet does that.
Yeah? You sure about that?
>>70111446
Janeway did nothing wrong in this episode, and you're delusional if you think it was any different from decisions taken by other captains/crews routinely.
On what grounds do you think Tuvix had any more right to life than, say, Spider-Barclay, or Evil-Transporter-Kirk, or Slug-Janeway? How about the time Riker killed his clones or Picard shot his future self?
Janeway does crazy shit a lot, don't get me wrong, but everybody who criticizes her for this episode seems to forget 'the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few' and precedents set by every other Trek series.
>>70116895
I wonder if those children kept on breeding.
There could be an entire subspecies of lizards on that planet by now
>>70117047
With their parents no longer taking care of them, they probably died.
>>70116895
>>70117047
>>70117069
Bigger issue is ifis it rape?
>>70117123
Yes, Janeway raped Paris
Janeway gets what she wants.
>>70117216
>that cringey scene where Janeway flirts with Tom after being reverted to their human form
>>70116355
While I never thought she was THAT hot, she's aged remarkably well. Well enough that those who used to be hotter than her are not anymore.
>had the chance to meet her at a convention
Fuck, I should've went, but I hadn't even watched DS9 by that time, but I knew I was gonna watch it eventually.
I here barely anyone was in line to meet her. ;_;
>>70116970
>Spider-Barclay was cured - consciousness never died
>Slug Janeway converted back to human - consciousness changed but never died
>Evil Transporter Kirk suffered from a schizophrenic type of disorder - they didn't deal with two beings in one Kirk, just one Kirk who was psychotic. They were getting their Captain back because it was inferred he couldn't be brought back to his normal health.
>Riker's clones weren't completed in their incubation and never even experienced one waking moment. Still bad but not even close to Tuvix
>Picard had to kill his future self so "the cycle would end". Did you even watch the entire episode? They die if he doesn't die.
All of your examples don't even come close to the Tuvix example.
>>70116355
oh wow. she could play the ultimate version of aunt may
am I the only bud here who thinks it's neat as hell that DeForrest Kelley AND Robert Picard were pre-med students before deciding on acting?
I think that's just about the neatest lilttle factoid
>>70116970
Came here to post exactly this.
>>70117554
Why did you post a picture of a pedophile?
>>70114352
>>70114652
Hey /b/-52's, that wasn't a virus.
>>70117591
The Traveler was hardly a pedophile.
At least Wesley was 22-ish when he decided to "go away" with the guy into some gay realm of wonderment.
Neelix on the other hand was the sexual succor of a 1 year old who was pre-pubescent.
>>70116355
Look at her straddling that chair arm
>>70117725
what did he mean by this?
>>70116355
don't like her hair but still hnnnggg
>>70111023
>"But Captain, can't we at least wait until we get back to the Federation and let their top scientists, scholars, and philosophers figure out what to do about me?"
>"From this point on no talking."
>>70116355
Good GOD she is looking fantastic.
>>70117725
NEELIX DID NOTHING WRONG
Every rape Neelix committed in Kazon territory was completely legal under Kazon law.
>Everyone has a cloak except the Federation.
No way in hell humans would agree to this, ever. Especially after they win the fucking war against the other parties. That would be like the US giving nukes to everyone after WW2 and not making any of its own.
>>70117563
Sorry Sisko, Crusher did it in 1987.
>>70117907
It was necessary for the Romulans to agree to the peace. The leaders had to look like they had "won" something.
Source: My butt.
>>70117563
Yes but then normies raged so hard against glass that Google was forced to shelve the project.
They didn't take kindly to expensive tech in their hipster hood.
>>70116970
>'the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few'
Lt. Cmdr. Data: Would you choose one life over one thousand, sir?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: I refuse to let arithmetic decide questions like that.
Who is the best chief medical officer, and why is it Abdul Ibn-Al Takbir Mohammed Al-Jazeera Bashir?
>>70117907
Gene probably disliked the idea of Fed ships being cloaked all the time; its Star Trek not Stealth Trek
>>70118123
Name a single good Bashir episode that isn't actually an O'Brien episode in disguise.
>>70112127
kek
>>70118204
>>70118123
What did Bashir mean by this?
>>70111446
> took a decision based on her own personal feelings rather than the rights of an individual to life.
This is such a silly argument. You are akin to those freaks in the trolley problem who refuse to press the switch to save 2 lives instead of the one guy because "that's the path the trolley is on". There is NO moral distinction in this scenario between Tuvok and Neelix being alive and making the decision to keep them alive instead of forming Tuvix, and Tuvix being alive and returning him to his constituent parts. None whatsoever.
>>70118246
uhhh
what is this?
>>70118289
A scar
>>70118204
How about the one where Baltar finds out that he used to be retarded, and is bitter that his father did the reasonable thing and got him fixed?
>inb4 I'm accused of being a troll, this did in fact happen.
>>70118289
Klingon nipples are actually quite small and are in different locations.
>>70118306
That was an O'Brien episode.
>O'Brien has the best lines
>O'Brien has the best scenes
>O'Brien is running the program that tricks Bashir's parents
>O'Brien talks Bashir down from suicide
Good job, Chief.
>>70118289
>tfw they saved Seven from Multiple Personality Disorder but ended all hopes of ending the Borg plague by a species who had 11 billion assimilated
The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the infinite (regress) ;)
Fucking Voyager for you
>>70118246
If Gene "Compulsive Sex Addict" Roddenberry had been alive for DS9, would this episode have ended with a Keiko/Kilometers/Kira threesome?
>>70118123
>cast an Anglo-Muslim actor
>made him Indian
>>70118204
That episode where he cured that autistic qt and she left him after getting her senses
Top cuck
>>70118413
>cast a honky cracker
>make him Indian
>>70115658
>The TNG Tech Manual definitely talks about a combined Orcinus orca takaya and Tursiops truncatus population on the ship to work out navigation problems (and more likely alien language challenges!).
>We never got to show them in an episode, since the expense would have been prohibitive, but we did convince the writers to have Geordi ask a visiting official if they ever saw the dolphins. During "Yesterday's Enterprise", an intercom call was heard asking Dr. Joshua Kim to report to Cetacean Ops.
>The dolphins and whales were my idea from the start; I'm convinced that, even if they're not intelligent enough to pilot a starship, they can still teach us a few things about other life forms."
What the fuck am I reading?
Okay, like there's a species out in space that resembles whales. I get that. Then the same movie seems to imply our whales are sentient, so TNG takes place some number of decades after Starfleet would know about sentient cetaceans. Okay, fine. Whales and dolphins on the flagship to do math for the ship? Did the universal translator work on them? Did they make big touch panels for them to use?Did they wear uniforms?
>>70118468
>cast a Mexican beaner
>make him an Indian
>>70118386
if he was still alive, would o'brien had banged loli keiko? she still has needs you knowi imagine he just avoided looking at anyone in the eye for a few days after that episode
The truth is just an excuse for a lack of imagination is best quotefarscape is better
>>70118468
>cast a Milk bag
>make him a drunk Scotsman
>>70118525
I thought he was born in Halifax Nova Scotia?
>>70111321
joly keking fuck
nice pepe m8
>>70113140
Picard being cold is a stoic captain.
A woman being cold is a bitch.
So you have to give her emotions, ironically making her the emotional woman captain.
Just like Sisko ended up being the angry black man.
And the only hard-knocks captain we got was an old, bald, white, British man.
Star Trek's stereotypes are my favorite.
>>70117563
There's a really great documentary about this called How William Shatner Changed The World
>>70118525
Scotty fought on D-Day, he can play who ever he damn well likes.
>>70119801
>It's a Geordi almost started the Dominion war early episode
>>70119801
>>70119870
Which episode is this? I don't remember anyone but Kirk encountering a Changeling.
>>70120270
A really, really, really SHIT episode I'd like to forget but it's seared into my mind now.
>"Aquiel"
>>70114182
Underage leave
>>70114863
>It's like she WANTED to get attacked constantly
>>70120606
>ds9 fanboys calling others underage
Top fucking kek. The worst part is you spergs genuinely think you're patricians for liking it more than other Trek series
>>70118123
Because the look on Alexander Siddig's face whenever he has to act through another scene that's about him being genetically engineered priceless.
>>70118493
Let's just say Riker went the extra mile to justify having a "love tank" on the ship.
Guys, was Janeway really a bad captain, or just inconsistent?
>>70121191
Good actress shit writers. I think she stopped giving a fuck round season 3-4
>>70121191
She just kept getting caffeine withdrawal and stealing Tuvok's stash of Kushangaza to take the edge off
>>70121246
Raktajino > coffee
Kanar > bloodwine > everything else
>>70118493
How much energy does the ship use up replicating 2.5 tons of Krill per whale per day?
Why do we never see whale bones floating in space when the Enterprise blows up?
How many people had to sign off on this idea?
>>70121298
Kanar >>>>>> Andorian Ale > Raktajino >>>>> Dogshit >>>>>> everything else
>>70121298
>it's Damar is the true hero of Cardassia and savior of the quadrant episode
I still get feels for it
>>70117543
You know it's underage tourist season when they start posting capeshit in your Trek board
So was Janeway a ripoff of the Starship Troopers captain or vice versa?
>>70121327
What does Kanar taste like? The color and consistency always made me think of licorice schnapps.
>>70121463
Like Cardassian poossay.
Yooo play Twist-ur human?
>>70121495
>Not posint best Ziyal
>>70115392
>Greetings, major. You might wonder why I'm sending you an encrypted sub-space message at 3 AM.
>I just wanted to let you know
>I fucked your mother.
Later
>Captain Sisko, I need to take a shuttle down to Bajor.
>Why?
>To use one of our religious artifacts to find out if Dukat really fucked my mother.
>it's a Chase Masterson and Alexander Siddig think they're on a porn shoot until Terry Farrell steps in and breaks it up before Nana finds out episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0569T0Av98
Wew lads
>>70121495
>>70121619
I see that the blue tint of the head spoon was nothing but make-up when we saw it and not the natural colour of their females.
>>70121665
Or it's carried by a recessive gene.
It's over captain, I have the high ground!
>>70121665
She was only half-Cardassian, so who knows how that works out.
>>70121643
Is there anything he can't do?
>>70116836
Can someone explain to me why an interstellar species evolves into lungfish. Is this what will happen if we don't practice eugenics?
>>70121706
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE PROPHETS ARE EVIL!
>>70121729
>even fucked Kai Winn
No, there's nothing he couldn't or wouldn't do
>>70121664
>He puts the padd down and in the next shot it is screen facing him
Does anyone have that tumblr comic that calls TOS racist because it was full of white men and had a black lady answering their phones?
>>70121756
Do you think he shredded Weyoun's purple butthole?
>>70121664
So that's where this comes from.
>>70121729
Gentle reminder The Final Frontier is one of the comfiest films ever made and has the best score of any of the films
https://youtu.be/LjSqwGpX7hg?t=2m2s
>>70121923
Not even the best theme tune in the films
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzt_ZbNQOk
>>70121706
>Dukat, you're breaking my heart!
>>70121975
nah, the voyage home's theme was far too sappy
>>70121975
Well excuse you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhoa7oWPPhk
>>70121643
Pretty good episode if you ask me
>it's a terrorists are heroes episode
>>70121829
>tfw no Vorta gf
GAS THE BLACK LEFT, WHITE RIGHTS, RACE WAR NOW!
>>70122117
>it's a Sisko poisons the atmosphere of a planet full of terrorists and their families episode
>>70121923
undisputed GOAT
https://youtu.be/na76Mrl89Rs?t=1m34s
>>70121923
Daily reminder that every piece of music of importance in Star Trek came from The Motion Picture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsHBpx6pdUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlBXmn2Q0s
>>70122061
This will always be my favourite though
>>70121923
I forget, what was Kirks secret recipe for baked beans? Beans and whiskey?
>>70122173
It was McCoy's recipe, and that's all he mentioned I think (except for making a racist comment to Spock)
>>70122119
I wonder how fertile the Vorta are, what with being clones.
>>70122166
I'd add Surprise Attack to that list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR2v62mfdX4
>>70121664
What if she wasn't flirting with him and actually needed medical attention? And he just got her drunk?
>>70122166
I love when the Klingon battle theme appeared in First Contact when we saw Worf on the Defiant.
>>70122457
Then that would be rape anon, and rape is wrong.
What was it that caused the revival in Trek?
It aired and was cancelled in the 60's and then in 79 TMP came out and it would be a very large franchise for the next several decades, but how did it get revived in that decade long gap?
Once a show was cancelled back then, it was done. There was no internet to organise a petition.
>>70122678
Extremely active and devoted fanbase. It it weren't for Star Trek, we wouldn't have conventions. After a certain point executives realized that they were stupid not for milking this further.
>>70122777
>It it weren't for Star Trek, we wouldn't have conventions
It was also the Trek fandom that created the concept of 'slash fiction'
>>70122678
>>70122777
Gene wanted a movie as soon as the series was cancelled and had been pushing for Phase II all the while. Paramount was lukewarm on Phase II, but saw Star Wars (and other sci-fi) make money at the box office so they cancelled the Phase II revival and made TPM.
Do you think Janeway ever told her husband that she and Paris had sex and have a bunch of lizard-fish children creating a new population on some planet in the Delta Quadrant?
>>70122835
>Not enjoying reading about Kirk going boldy where no man had gone before inside Spock
>>70122967
Did I say anything about not enjoying it?
>>70122912
Her husband moved on though, the same as Harry's gf.
>>70123055
Still, it's something he might want to know about.
>>70123176
I think she would have purged all records of that incident and took it to her grave.
Unleashing a potentially invasive predator into an ecosystem and then leaving it there seems like it would violate some sort of directive.
I imagine the aftermath on that planet was similar to the Australia frog scene in the Simpsons.
>>70123282
>Implying Captain Kathryn "Kill 'em the" Janeway didn't go into a rage when she recovered and found out what happened
>Implying she didn't order Tuvok to glass the planet
![tumblr_llgp0j3Fmg1qg0jt9o1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/322dN3k.jpg "tumblr llgp0j3Fmg1qg0jt9o1 1280[1]")
Which Star Trek captain is directly responsible for the most deaths?
My guess:
Own crew deaths: Kirk
Innocent civilian deaths: Janeway
Enemy combatant deaths: Janeway
>>70122166
This is the best Trek theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIsN_PjaHY
>>70123464
Nah, Sisko is the most enemy combatant deaths, unless you include stuff like letting the Borg win their war and go on ruining civilisations into the count.
>>70123464
Katherine "The more I explore, the higher my score" Janeway
>>70123670
Sisko probably ordered more men to their deaths than Picard killed in Wolf 359 too
>>70116280
I'm so fucking confused as to what's going on in that lower abdominal region.
Does she have a colostomy bag?
>>70123464
>Innocent civilian deaths: Janeway
>Enemy combatant deaths: Janeway
what about ben "gas the planet" sisko
>>70123792
She's holding her shirt taught so you can see the belt holes and zipper. Not sure about the top one, maybe a belly button piercing.
>>70123835
They were warned what he was going to do, the missiles detomated 50km above the surface so it would have taken time to diffuse, and the Maquis started evacuating immediately, I don't think anyone died
>>70116355
She looks like Rogue from the X-Men in her 40s. Would bang/10.
>>70123774
Holy shit I forgot about Wolf 359
11,000 killed... Picard might be the champ for combatant kills.
>>70117563
The eyepiece isn't the same as google glass, though.
And humans can't really use the eyepiece for extensive periods.
>>70117763
Maybe they finally got around to fulfilling Gene's Ferengi penis idea, but did it with Neelix instead.
>>70118123
Bashir is great, but I've always been more of a The Doctor fan. Or Phlox.
>>70122912
>lizard-fish
You mean amphibian?
>>70123464
Own crew: Definitely Kirk
Innocent Civilians: Janeway
Combat: Hard to say. Probably Sisko, but Janeway is definitely in the running.
>>70123774
>>70123960
>locutus
>picard
pick one
>>70124180
Yeah but what about Beverly's augmented reality surgery device? >>70117936
>Yous' sure aboot dah? Oye wouldn wan any of dis to get back to Jewlian?
>Well, de trut iz..
>OYE HATE DAT FOOKIN ARAB CUNT
>SAY WOT YOO WANT ABOUT DUH FOOKIN POTATO STEALING ENGLISH, BUT AT LEAST DEY DIDN WAKE YOO UP AT 5 EVERY MORNIN WID DER FOOKIN PRAYING
>BRING BACK DUH SHAPESHIFTER JEWLS, HE WOZ BETTUH
>>70124518
Blarney O'McPotato O'Brien is the best O'Brien.
>>70123464
for Own Crew Deaths... what about when Voyager got split into two versions (the episode where Kim died), and one of them had to self destruct? Technically her whole crew died except for Kim, and the baby, who escaped to the doppelganger ship.
>>70124651
Don't remind Voyagerms about Harry Kim being replaced by a duplicate
It triggers them
>>70118123
the hologram is like a million times better, the only worse doctor is the old replacement bitch from TNG, bashir is a closet fgt and just one of the 0 likeable characters on DS9
>>70119449
Oh wow, I almost forgot about the time where Picard and Co. visit the backwards Ooga Booga planet of the Apes.
>>70124893
I'm certain most of the people who worked on Trek wanted you to forget it too.
OP here. I've come back from sleeping and this thread is still going? Hmm. I have some reading to do, We all autists nao.
>>70124518
>>70124596
That's it, I need to go on the transplant list for a new pair of sides
>>70121327
Root Beer> everything else
>>70118123
>cucked by captain boday
>cucked by sisko
>cucked by a wheelchair
>cucked by worf
>cucked by rom
>cucked by quark in a tongo game
>cucked by sarina's internship
>cucked by worf again
>
>>70126549
Oh yeah and...
>cucked by Keikko
>>70126549
he was also cucked by Q
>>70126549
>"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of BLACKED, I will fear no cucking: for thou are with me; thy face and thy spots they comfort me"
-The Ezriad, 23:4
Was he a good boy?
>>70114131
>DS9 is the only good Star Trek show
a shopping mall in outer space with a "captain" and a whiny stinky space hag
sorry son, DS9 sucked
>>70128732
he's not a boy, he's a dog
>>70114131
ds9 had the worst acting in the entire franchise
Tuvix was a laugh riot. The way the whole crew was paling around, having already accepted him. Then as soon as Janeway makes the decision they're all deathly silent "ayy fuck this guy" as he's dragged away kicking a screaming to the murderbay.
>>70129876
Yeah it just shows how two faced people can really be. They put up a front to avoid making waves but behind that mask they are thinking 'fuck you!' all of the time.
>>70129876
Tuvix was better than neelix and tuvok combined, sad that they had to let him go
>>70121341
It pisses me off that they killed him at the last moment due to 'muh dukats daughter' even though shooting her was totally justified.
>Betrays leader of her nation
>Collaborates with terrorists who are acting against both the Dominion and the orders of the government of Bajor
>Traitor who wipes out an entire fleet
>Tries to defect to enemy
>Is manipulating the leader of your nation, about to get him captured by the enemy
There is no Nation on earth that wouldn't execute her or at least imprison her for life, since he didn't have time to take her prisoner Damar did the right thing ethnically by shooting her to deliver justice and/or deny her giving the enemy intelligence. The only failing Damar had in that situation was one of sentimentality, he should have either shot Dukat or stunned him and dragged him to a ship to keep the enemy from capturing him.
The only justification for leaving Dukat behind would be if he was convinced that the Federation wouldn't be able to extract information from him, quite plausible since the worse the Feds could use against him is a mind meld and Damar knows that Dukat is immune to them.
>>70131937
>Dukat is immune to mind melds
Since when? Is that a Cardassian thing? Did they bring it up in an episode?
Gonna need some more info
>>70122005
Why the fuck does Worf think she isn't in Stovkor? She died with a phaser in her hand trying to single handedly fight one of the most infamous villains in the quadrant who was possessed by a evil god. Pretty epic death if you think about it. Was defending a Temple no less.
>>70132067
The Maquis
>>70132067
In 'The Maquis Part 2' Dukat was captured by the Maquis, there was a Vulcan among them who couldn't meld with him, Dukat claimed it 'was simply a matter of discipline'
>>70131937
>hating on Ziyal
Back to /pol/
>>70132265
>simply a matter of discipline
Yeah, I call bullshit plot device
>>70132373
>Sisko: I've heard they put Cardassian children in intense mind-training programmes when they're four years old, is that true?
>Dukat: The Cardassian educational system is unparalleled in the quadrant
And Cardassians have always been very stoic and secretive, I believe it. Or, it could just be that they're lying and they have lizard brains.
>>70132373
>>70132265
>>70132221
>>70132067
He actually mocked the Vulcan which she was trying it. Apparently high ranking Cardassian officers are put through mental training to resist mental probes. It kinda makes sense, Ferengi are immune due to having such a alien brain structure, it is not too far of a stretch to assume it would be difficult with a lizard who was trained to actively resist it.
Logically the Vulcan would have to overcome the Cardassian Ego first, a resource Dukat is most definitely not lacking in.
>>70132373
It's less bullshit than Ferengi being naturally immune to Betazoids, since Cardies need to actually train themselves to become resistant.
>>70132373
Did Troi ever read a Cardassians mind in TNG? I can't recall
>>70123464
Wouldn't Picard take crew deaths? The Borg kinda fucked his shit up early on and he was on a gigantic civilian vessel. Imagine all the kids and dolphins dying off camera.
>>70121452
>get half your crew killed
>get crushed by door
>not slapping the shit out of Ibenez and Barclow for fraternization
Yeah, pretty much.
>Dizzie best girl
>>70132680
that was the Ferengi evolutionary advantage. they are physically weak but are immune to most diseases and mentalists.
>>70133001
Nah.
Only eighteen crew died in Q Who. Borg Picard killed thousands in BoBW, but not on the Enterprise.
>>70133001
he lost about 20 when they pushed his shit in first time around in Q who.
they got engineering as well.
i think they only got picard in Best of both worlds, but they fucked the fleet up at Wolf 359
>>70133157
>>70132680
Ferengi have a 4 lobed brain, the structure is too alien for telepaths to navigate.Reptiles have weird mental structures as well, Cardassians, Gorn and the like would most likely be problematical.
Don't forget the brain implant Garak had, Cardassians don'tr fuck around when it comes to interrogation.
>>70123622
Holy shit, that takes me back.
>>70111023
After this episode I hated Janeway for the rest of the shows run, I wanted her beheaded.
Fucking stupid female captain bitch of a slut.
>>70133546
Okay calm down Ahmed.
>>70125471
>That's it, I need to go on the transplant list for a new pair of sides
>>70111023
data and geordi would have figured out a way to have tuvok, tuvix and neelix all at the same time
fucking amataurs
>>70133907
You know, when they first started working together, Weyoun probably liked Damar.
As bad as Damar got when he was drunk, he was still better than dealing with drunk/sober/mad/glad/sad/horny/any Dukat.
>>70133546
Your autism is showing.
Is there a better Trek Waifu than Weyoun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rACCZaBcq1g
>VOY vs DS9
>>70133339
>no new /trek/ meme will ever entertain you as much as the /trek/ memes of your childhood did
>>70134126
Damar killed at least one Weyoun off-screen though.
>>70134149
i dont care it fucked up the show, i hate shoehorned female roles like this it just wasnt organic an i never felt safe wit hthe crew behind her she just had no authority or ethics, or ever made the right choices
>>70134126
No doubt. Weyoun seemed relieved when Damar said he stopped drinking, shortly before he betrayed the Dominion.
>>70134184
>T/pol/ Capper leaves
>the fights die down
>T/pol/ Capper returns
>the fights flare up again
Huh.
>>70134238
That's your opinion. Why did you keep watching if you hated it so much?
>>70134153
Nope
Combs is top Trekfu
>>70134308
What does that post have to do with /pol/?
>>70134469
Tpol is a character on Enterprise
>>70134469
>>70134607
T/pol/ Capper is a person who posts caps of T'Pol and often shares their opinions on "niggers" and "faggots" and more.
Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i come to Quark's this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on his face. What should i do about him? Ideas?
>>70134607
No shit sherlock. The image had nothing to do with /pol/ or T'Pol
>>70134385
to know how to counter the bitch and future females i come across
Friendly reminder that "That which is beautiful has a sweet taste when it is fresh from the vine. But don't live too long. The taste turns bitter after a time."
>>70135235
Instead of looking at the image, look at the text.
>>70135304
Enjoy being single for the rest of your life, dude.
>>70128908
>space hag
what did she mean by this?
>>70135308
>But don't live too long
No shit.
>>70135308
>Quoting Kor the Da'Har Master with a photo of Jennifer Lien
I honestly don't know whether to be impressed of disgusted
>>70124518
Oh fuck
>>70112945
Which ones?
>#ExocompLivesMatter
what a turd of an episode
"You fucking whales are all the god-damned same. Sitting in your aquarium throwing back bushels of Krill like Al fuckin' Capone in the roarin' 20s.. well your planet-mates just finished the weapon and are headed to Earth to kill more whales! Ya' get it? WHALES! They just can't build interstellar ships or hire a prostitute to woo my into her graces through some spooky electro-scan. Their blood is on your hands if they die!"
>>70111023
A white Neelix can be bad enough at times but a fucking Black Neelix!!!?
Hell no, she did the right thing!
>>70112945
They're yellow and green if you know what I mean.
>>70135843
The moment I saw those things I knew the episode was going to blow because it involved Geordi doing more technobabble that ultimately was filler for what was a bad executed idea.
In fact, how many "AI Gone Awry" episodes were actually good? That probe from TOS was okay I guess.
>>70135921
Jesus how based was Mad Captain Archer?
>>70117725
Neelix is love.
>>70136107
As based as the Red Skull
>>70136037
Civil Defence from DS9 is the best one (AI Dukat vs.DS9)
That voyager episode with the AI warhead was pretty good
The one with the murderous hologram was also good
The first Moriarty episode was good, the follow-ups not as good but still OK
I'm sure there were more but that's all that comes to mind
>>70117882
>rape
>Implying it was rape
>Implying she didn't want it just as much as he did.
>Implying it wasn't true love.
>>70135922
>during Pon Farr black vulcans are 3 times as likely to commit rape, murder and theft
when will Vulcan find the final logical solution for this problem?
>>70135765
pretty good fake
>>70136186
Out of all of those, only the AI Warhead counts because it was.. AI. The hologram I suppose could be considered AI as well since it is programming.
3 out of 4, not bad.
>Civil Defense was actually O'Brien opening an old Cardassian defense file Dukat left in their for the laughs
>>70136107
What is the best captain in all Trek, and why is it mirror-Archer's motivational delusion of prime-Archer?
>>70135308
She was beautiful once, but that was long ago.
>>70136391
Because it's supreme confidence in what's saying to Mirror Archer.
Like there would be no reality where this delusion isn't feeding him truth-bombs that he just doesn't want to believe.
>>70118289
What episode is this? This is the exact reason we need Voyager on blu ray.
>>70136204
Never.
>>70135922
half black talaxian vs fully black vulcan, are you sure??
>>70123464
How about the time Janeway got her entire ship abducted and lost about 50% of her crew?
>>70136171
Remember that time he was Captain America's son, forced a scientist to murder her husband with rusty scissors and then tossed her baby out of a helicopter while giving his henchmen his blessing to gangrape her?
Ultimate comics were the best until Jeph Loeb fucked it up.
>>70136686
Drone.
The one where the 29th century Borg destroys a sphere.
The one where they fit too much shit into a 43 minute episode.
>>70137134
No but I remember getting the Punisher Christmas specials back in the 90s that had every cuss word except cunt and had Punisher murdering weight lifting drug dealers with wanton gore.
>the only capeshit I ever liked involved just a pissed off gun fanatic who hired a hacker in a van
Remember when Chakotay cut a deal with the Columbians in exchange for non replicated coke ?
>>70137615
No, but the Maquis were willing to "cut deals" with other species or humans outside of the Federation which, in a way, could be interpreted as being similar to terrorists or Narcos working with native populations to acquire guns or technology in response to a police force of some type (Starfleet Intelligence).
Remember that time the Doctor worked swimmingly with a holographic simulation of the Cardy Josef Mengele?
Voyager could go from brutal matriarch to "wahh but it's still a Cardassian hologram, save the Bajorans from hurt feelings" episode week to week.
This guy was great.
>>70114863
>why was janeway such a shitty diplomat?
She's a woman
>>70138929
Probably the stupidest 'moral question' they ever tried to pass off as controversial
It was a fucking hologram, the entire matter was Fait Accompli, and if you seriously wanted to not use any information that was unethically obtained at some point in the past, you'd have to throw out the entire foundation of medicine
>>70139187
WHOAWHOAWHOA, Kleinsasser, easy on the gaspedal
Have you never heard of Mutter Merkel, our grand saviour of the Europeans?
>>70139197
That's good old Pander Express Trek for ya'.
Tabor's feelings are irrelevant but B'Elanna is basically getting sucked dry of her cells and refuses because "he's just another Cardassian".
They banged that drum so many times you could play an entire Celine Dion album with it.
>>70116137
The show was doomed the second the Maquis were beaten down into obedience instead of being the catalyst for the creation of a unique ship culture.
>>70139675
Rick Berman and Brannon Braga probably saw that it was taking away from the "dark frontier" aspect of the show suck as new aliens and potentially new ideas.
I agree, they definitely shoved it aside way too quick and created a pilot that didn't follow through with it's foreshadowing (in terms of the Maquis).
Nonetheless, I think more than two seasons of stirring that pot would've probably gotten old and would've contradicted all sorts of "Gene-ites" and Federation regulations in the process (they did enough of that for different reasons throughout the series eventually).
>>70121643
Dukat has the AAA mindgame
>>70122281
Probably just as normal as everyone else. However, cross-species offsprings could turn out to be infertile. Just like how mules can't bear any children, as they're the result of horses interbreeding with donkeys.
Then again, Troy and Riker had a baby, didn't they? So fuck that thought.
>>70140264
In the ST universe, getting a sex change is about as difficult as fixing a broken bone in our time. I imagine cross species infertility has a rather routine fix.
>>70135308
>He wants to fuck a 3 year old
>>70132626
Why are Cardassians so fucking master race perfect?
>you will never have god tier discipline Cardassian genes in you
>>70140264
>>70140264
>Troy
It's Troi
REDDITOR DETECTED REEEEEEEEEEE
>>70140467
So Rowsdower, is that a stupid name or..?
>>70140467
Tourist-anon also didn't get that it was a joke in the first place
>>70122409I fucking LOVE Galaga
>>70121310
>How much energy does the ship use up replicating 2.5 tons of Krill per whale per day?
a huge amount, but still not that much for a large starship's antimatter reactor
>Why do we never see whale bones floating in space when the Enterprise blows up?
not dramatic enough
>How many people had to sign off on this idea?
zero
isn't Trek fun?
>>70122678
Star Trek had the original modern rabid fandom.
(Some people would say it was Sherlock Holmes instead. Those people are even bigger virgins than Trek fans.)
I once found a book that was essentially selected fan articles and letters on Star Trek-- like someone printed "Best of Such and Such Star Trek Forum". It was full of theories and speculation and feels. It was really striking that this was A) printed as a book and B) existed in the mid-1970's.
Also they did an animated series between the original and the first movie that no one remembers or talks about today.
pic related, Trek had a catgirl before it was cool
garbage series...
...for garbage people.
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