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Mel Gibson On Why He Turned Down Playing Odin in ‘Thor’
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>“Some are good. Some are kind of funny … Guardians of the Galaxy. Or the first Iron Man. And some of them are just like retreats. I mean you can watch them do Spider-Man five times…”
>Then Gibson’s remarks turned to the state of cinema in general:
>“There is a slight shift in film. But, then again, I think all films are suffering from people not being able to now open them with their name. It’s a different kind of business these days…I think you used to get more variety of stories, films and performances. You had more of a chance of a profound film experience. But that’s not gone. I think that has been relegated to the independent world – but they have to do it twice as fast for half the money.”
http://www.slashfilm.com/mel-gibson-turned-down-thor/

Just think of all the capeshit plens that would love him now.
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As usual Mel says nothing but truth. How can anyone hate this guy? I mean unless they're a hook nosed Christ killer.
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>>70082381
It's true. The mid-budget risky film is all but dead in American cinema.
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>>70082381

goddamn young Mel is so fucking hot
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>>70082620

And some of the best films ever made fall in this category. The Matrix springs immediately to mind.
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oi
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>>70082381
Speaking nothing but truth.
Disney execs on suicide watch.
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>>70082677

The Wachowskis had everything planned out by the time they started doing the first movie. Yes, this also includes the video game.
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>>70082381
Mel is based
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Well fuck him then
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>>70082803
Marvelcuck on Suicide Watch
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There are five Spider-Man's but only two of them are good or worth watching. I like Spider-Man and anticipate more content of his.
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luckily, we still have malick
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>>70082381
JUST BE IN MORE MOVIES MEL

*cries*
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remember when mel was on letterman and rode a horse into the studio then tore off his pants
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Wait, Mel Gibson turned down Odin before they cast BRIAN BLESSED who then got the role snatched away from him by Hopkins?

How the fuck was there so much contest for the supporting role in a Marvel movie that wasn't even a big deal back then?
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>mel gibson helped that kike get his career back together after his drug problem
>he doesn't return the favour by getting him a starring capeshit role

What a piece of shit.
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>>70082758
Even their transition?
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wtf i hate mel gibson now
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>ywn see Mel as Old Man Logan
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>>70082971
Good. That racist anti-semitic asshole doesn't deserve any more roles.
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>>70082933
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAJuynxnTQ
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>>70082911
wtf letterman used to be funny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IazA9PUecyQ
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>>70082758
Then why were the sequels shit?
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>>70082971
I think if anyone tries to take Wolverine away from Huge Actman, he'll literally murder them in their own home.

It's like fucking Red Dragon or some shit, he wants to ascent, become the Wolverine.
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>>70083013
>Not liking based Mel
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>Marvelets ITT hating on based Mel
We Reddit now
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>>70083075
Hasn't he said that W3 will be his last? He has been doing it for 16 years. He is tired of it.
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>>70082840
Manchild.
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>>70082381
based mel
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>>70083124
Kek, maybe if this was the 80s. When everyone's a manchild no one is.
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>>70083043
>asks forgiveness
He's making snarky comments about him in front of the Hollyjew elite
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>>70083104
And honestly I'm a bit tired of HJ as Wolverine. Time for some new blood. And I want my yellow Wolverine costume. Fuck the naysayers.
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>>70082555
I am a hook-nosed, Christkilling Hebe and I can't hate the guy. The woman-hatey domestic life and the racism are his personal business, but the guy is Hollywood gold.
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>>70083145
>he thinks everybody cares about capeshit

literally just niggaboos and nu males
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>>70083163
He's also said he wants Mel to direct Iron Man 4
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>>70083043
based
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Thor in oven
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That's the kind of reasoned, sensible comment that isn't possible today with the lizard Jews running the world.
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>>70083179
The majority of this board loves capeshit. When Spider-Man was in the Captain America trailer there was literally 30 threads at one time all posting the same reveal picture of him. Not making this up. Only because of it's overwhelming popularity is there people such as yourself.
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I still want him as Cabel.
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>you will never see RDJ and based Mel in a talkshow together promoting a movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-YfnxFQkkE
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Jew here. Mel is based.
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>>70083013
Get out.
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>>70083259
RDJ looks like a fake person.
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>>70083199
Conforming to what you perceive the majority opinion on a cantonese tapestry weaving chatroom to be is the height of retardation m'lad.

Are you 15?
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>>70083344
I preceived you saying "everybody" as everyone here. They are also some of the most popular movies in all of existence, you cant deny the box office records too. Unless you're 15.
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>>70083259
Air America is such a fucking weird movie. It's like 3 movies in 1 without much cohesion or direction. Most of the time they're just hanging out at an airfield. It's strangely comfy.
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>>70082803
>>70082840
>>70082948
>>70083145

Manchildren BTFO

MCUcks strapped to the bed on literal suicide watch
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>>70082381

how can one man be so based?
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>>70082840

i really don't get the hate for spiderman 3. sure its not as good as the first 2 but its not inherently bad as everyone thinks it is
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>>70083390
I don't think nearly the majority of people on 4chan like capeshit. Its just spammed on here by shills and small minded children fall in with the fad.

Soon you'll be saying that the wall to wall Star Wars meming and sudden enforcement of spoilers was all native interest.
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>>70083519
Sure, but its still bad.
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>>70083259

>ywn see Mel create his epic Viking movie

why even live? ;_;
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>>70083536
>I don't think nearly the majority of people on 4chan like capeshit.

It's pretty believable considering /b/ and /v/ are the biggest boards on the website.
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HIS VIKING EPIC WHEN?

Apocalypto was amazing, god damn just give him another chance
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>>70082381
>women age like milk, men age like wine

What a crock of shit.
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>>70083613
B8
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>>70083536

lol. you think too highly of /tv/. its not "patrician" or auteur at all. its normies getting their meme fix while talking about the next blockbuster popcorn flick. back in the day you can still see some intelligent film discussion you can't even get a decent cinematography thread in here, it'll get buried by capeshits, star wars or sjw bait threads
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>>70083536
>I don't think nearly the majority of people on 4chan like capeshit
Not the majority of 4chan but definitely 60% of /tv/
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>>70082381
BASED as fuck

don't forget there is a Gibson kino coming this year
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>>70083177
>The woman-hatey domestic life and the racism are his personal business
White cishet spotted
kys
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>>70083671
March 2017
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>>70082381
>how dare companies use their money to produce what they want instead of what I think they should make
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>>70083671
If you are talking about that Edgy McEdgelord movie, it looks cheap and stupid.
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ITT: people take what he says out of context to suit their agenda.
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>>70082381
Amazing. It's funny how this is exactly my opinion.
The last time I went to the theaters was to watch Interstellar. I live in a small town and the only two cinemas here are basically capeshit, capeshit, comedy, kids' movie, kids' movie.
Anything different for that, gets my money, but they're rare.
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its sad thats its true and you can also say the same exact thing about video games
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>>70084023
Same.
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>>70082840
Y-yeah...5 Spider-Man... not 8...

;_:
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>>70082971
Young Mel did a great berserker rage in the Lethal Weapon movies.
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>>70083830
>muh edge
Fuck off back to /v/umblr, sjw
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>>70084200
He did a couple of other great berserker rages.
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>>70082381
wew
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>>70082381
>tfw Mel will never direct a movie about the Fall of Constantinople where he plays Constantine XI
it feels like it's the sort of thing he would've done already
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>>70083199
Jesus Christ you are exactly the person those marketing shills on here are going for. I thought they were wasting their time spamming their crap on here but apparently there really are people stupid enough to think those are the actual, honest opinions of /tv/ users.

I bet you thought /tv/ was super hyped for Fury Road and that Star Wars fanfiction movie too.
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Mel was already on the based list but he's on it twice now.
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>>70083043

>you'll never have a bro like mel

jdmisa
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>>70082381
coming from the guy who did 4 lethal weapons
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>>70082933
>Mel said he thinks capeshit is mostly shit
>RDJ has repeatedly asked the industry to forgive Mel
>hurr y doesnt kike give him capeshit role
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>>70085559
>if people make lots of threads about it it's marketing
How about you accept the sad truth that this board is actually full of plebs?
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>>70082677

>Matrix

>good
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>>70085774
I've confronted these fuckheads on a number of occasions and their response has always convinced me it's a shill raid.

For example, I went in one ludicrously cringeworthy shill thread - they were practically telling us to see it at the cinema for the full experience - and I called them out. There were almost a dozen replies, all denying it and calling me crazy and so on. Then I told them that not even quality political trolling gets this kind of OTT response on here. They all shut up immediately. Like they went from ten posts a minute to complete silence.

I asked another one of them to explain if they were shilling, ie. too poor to post their own opinions on /tv/, or if they were too stupid to find an existing Star Wars thread for their thoughts. Their response was to threaten to spam more Star Wars threads on "my" board if I didn't shut up.

And there have been a few actual whistleblowers, saying they got fired for missing a quota so they're exposing the scam on here. Some have posted screencapped wageslips (names redacted). Their threads always get shilled hard until, again, the level of shilling reaches a point where they're being too obvious, they get told they're being too obvious, and they fall silent.

Anyone who says there isn't widespread shilling on 4chan (and many other forums) is either brand new, retarded, or a shill.

But that said, the board IS full of plebs.
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>>70083613
I'd still get with him tbqh
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>>70086285
>everyoneisstupidexceptme
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>>70086826
Stupid, or a lying shill, or acknowledges that shilling exists.

I can guess which you are.
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>>70086890
Nice reverse psychology, shill.
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>>70082620
It's true for any other medium
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>>70082620
>ywn live in a time when big budget, artistically shot, long-as-fuck films like Gone with the Wind, Ben Hur, and The Godfather were box office behemoths

Feels really bad man.
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>>70086285
Source? Im genuinely interested in seeing these wageslips etc.
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>>70083058
They weren't. Common mistake among retards.
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>>70086285
I'm not the anon you're replying.
I can confirm this.
It's easy to notice how it's full of shills because they just disappear after the first two weeks. You'll find 1 or 4 threads about superhero movies or Star Wars here in a normal day, but you'll also find one about James Bond, asking about a movie from the 1930's or some shit comedy.
It's also easy to notice, look at the "quality" of the thread. Remember the "I rebel" thing from Star Wars? You could find 8 or 10 threads everyday every time here. This disappeared.
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CAPESHIT BTFO
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>>70087887
Look at the proliferation of memes on /tv/ it's not hard to see that shit like iRebel is the result of losers trying engineer memes instead of just being meme shovellers taking regurgitated shit and passing it off to /tv/ ad infinitum in an attempt at social contact and humor
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>>70087887
>people get bored after the hype
Do you think marketers also flooded the whole board when the Aurora shooting took place?
Also you seem to have forgotten that all those "I rebel" threads were making fun of the movie.
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>>70082803
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>>70087981
*trailer
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>>70087601
I can't find it now but it's pretty meaningless without context anyway. Somewhere there's an infographic floating around that includes one, with other info that explains who it's from and what they do (online marketing).

The damage control operations these organisations run are fucking scary though. Gamergate tried to expose shilling for computer games companies by "independent" voices, and look how that turned out. They'll happily exploit people's fear/support of identity politics just to fight off critics of their lying "journalists."

They've become a lot less obvious as well, at least on /tv/. Spend five minutes on /ck/ and ask yourself if people really care enough about McDonald's, Burger King, Five Guys etc. for there to be multiple threads up about them, complete with the logo in the OP, 24/7.

This shit is common knowledge on other boards, and other sites, but I guess /tv/ (and certain other boards) have a particularly young and naive userbase.
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>>70082677
>matrix
>risky
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>>70088098
>McDonald's, Burger King, Five Guys
>multiple threads
>24/7
As the man in the orthopaedic shoes said: I stand corrected.

I just checked /ck/ and can't find a thread about any of those brands. Maybe they're off duty at a certain time of day but I swear it seems like every other thread when I browse /ck/ normally. Regular cu/ck/s know what I mean.

There is a "Taco Bell General" but I won't claim that alone proves anything.
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>>70087405
I don't understand this mentality. They WERE behemoths. You can watch the movies right now for free in HD if you want instead of having to go to a theater or straight up just not seeing them because they aren't being shown anymore and home video isn't a thing yet.
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>>70088268
>There is a "Taco Bell General" but I won't claim that alone proves anything.
It just proves that this website has been taken over by underage Mexicans
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>>70087947
One thing is the "Bane 4U" shit that appeared a few weeks after the film because it was a ridiculous scene. Another thing is the "I rebel" shit from a trailer about a movie that isn't out yet. There is no such thing as bad publicity.

>>70087981
>Also you seem to have forgotten that all those "I rebel" threads were making fun of the movie.
It's enough to make some retards watch the trailer. There is no such thing as bad publicity, remember?
Believe me or not, make people talk is enough in this situation.
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>>70088324
>There is no such thing as bad publicity, remember?
I guess Baneposting was created by DC shills.
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>>70088098
Someone made a good screen grab when the Force Awakens shilling of a viral marketer forgetting to clear out the name field on his posts. Once called out he samefagged the thread to death it an attempt to 404 it
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>>70088324
I think Baneposting probably happened organically, since IIRC it became popular some time after TDKR was over it's cinema run. But the scale of it's popularity and influence will have inspired attempts at similar meme creation by shills and attention whores.

There were a few shortlived Fury Road memes that tried to be forced but they weren't based on anything remotely entertaining so they were only repeated by kids trying to fit in.

One of the shill whistleblowers said that one of their tactics was to try to force memes relating to the movies they're pushing. Bear that in mind when you see "WITNESS" posts and those pathetic attempts at Star Wars memes.
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>>70088343
I'm trying to find the original "big guy for you" post, do you have it? Look at the date and remember that TDKR was released in July, 27, 2012.
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>>70088612
It was in 2011 when the plane scene leaked
But what we call Baneposting was spammed by one guy in September 2013
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>>70088571
I agree.
People don't believe it, but marketing is really important. I work in a small store that had shit sales for the first 5 or 6 months. After advertising it, the number of clients doubled in one week. And the advertising I'm talking about is a car with a sound-box going around the neighborhood saying there is a new store in the street X. Just letting people know about it would improve the sales. After the ad people would come and say: "Is this a new store? Good to know. I'll come here more often."

Now think about how does a $50 million ad campaign created by a giant marketing agency in every media you can imagine affects people. Now put the Star Wars/Disney brand in it.
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>>70088994
Stop shilling your store here.
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>>70082758
>>70083058
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>>70089406
Claudia Black is so fucking sexy
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>>70087887
>>70087601
>>70086285
Old example

imgur.com/0zySS
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>>70089575
I always preferred Chiana.
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>>70089585
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>>70083049
It was the 90s, Kurt Cobain was in office.
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>>70082381
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>>70090746
I blame the audience as much as anyone. Those are the top-selling movies in the USA, not the top rated movies.

Cynical movie executives will never fund original movies again, because retarded mouth-breathing assholes will eat up the aggressive marketing campaigns, and gormlessly listen to the paid-off "critics" and the legions of shills spamming their forums with franchise/sequel fanfiction "hype" as though they're real users with real opinions. These animals will go see the trash they've been repeatedly told to go see.

There were a few Cannes threads on /tv/ when that festival was on. Read threads like that and check out some real films. We used to have threads about the year's best Indie films, what happened to those?

/tv/ is turning into major studio advertising space and nobody seems to realise it.
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>>70082381
Damn fucking based

FUCK MARVEL CAPESHIT

Come to DC based Mel
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>>70082933
What the hell are you talking about?
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>Make a religious porn movie that only rednecks and white trash like
>Get drunk and when a cop pulls you over you express your love for sand niggers
>Beg your Jewish overlords for forgiveness and apologize multiple times, but they show no mercy and kill your career
>Become an even bigger alcoholic in your depression
>Your wife cucks you for a nigger
>You get caught on tape crying about how upset you are that your wife is cucking you for a nigger
>Now trying to appease his masters by making an anti-war movie glamorizing a soldier who refused to kill Taliban, starring a Jewish actor

Is there a bigger cuck in Hollywood than Mel Gibson?
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>>70083175
Mel Gibson Old Man Logan movie please.
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>>70092159
Who would he play?
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>>70083013

Why do liberals like to shit on and berate every facet of Christianity publicly and openly, but as soon as you speak out against Judaism then all of a sudden you need to be shamed and shunned and put in your place?
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>>70092298
I guess that Anon thinks RDJ should cast Mel in an Iron Man movie because Mel didn't disown him when he was fucked up on booze and drugs.

This is the level of intellect Trump supporters on the internet have. Fortunately for the USA, even if they were old enough to vote they'd be too stupid to find a polling station.

Unfortunately for the USA, the alternative is Hillary. You guys are seriously fucked.
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>>70092442

Highfather
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>>70089968
Naw. Claudia is an 8/10 that becomes a 10/10 when she speaks. Chiana is a 7/10 that becomes a 0/10 when she speaks. So fucking irritating
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>>70092442
Someone from the JSA. Jay Garrick or Alan Scott.
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>>70090746
>shortoftheweek.com
Love that site. Tried to talk about it a few times here but it never gets any traction
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>>70092442
Hal Jordan
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>>70088278
People want to be part of the zeitgest more than want to enjoy the art.
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>>70092478
Because there was a large scale public genocide of Jews within living memory?
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>>70083013
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>>70092338
Fuck off, Goldstein. Mel knows more about making true kino than you and your degenerate race ever will.
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>>70092765
There's a genocide of Christians going on right now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Christians_by_ISIL
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>>70093017
>The genocide of Christians by ISIL refers to the genocide of Christian minorities.
Fuck black people
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>>70082381
How can one individual be so based
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>>70092131
Cannes is rotten too m8.
Unironically following it might be even plebbier than following the Oscars.
It's all done to celebrate and congratulate current sociopolitical interests, not art.
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>>70093834
>tfw one of the last bastions of hope is being blindly thrashed by plebs who blindly discard capeshit.

I'll eat my shorts if Mel didn't like BvS, it's the antithesis of the bland and generic filmmaking that present capeshit represents.
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>>70082925
>BRIAN BLESSED
That would have been marvellous to watch, anon.
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>>70082840
>Giving a shit after SM3

1 and 2 are two of my personal favorite movies, and even I stopped giving a fuck.
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>>70083789
That's precisely the point you asshat. Back in his days, studios and executives gave directors money and freedom, they just had a mild idea of what the product/movie was gonna be about, and it wasn't until the final stages of the movie that they found out what was really about. Studios took risks and chances back then, some were big flops, and some were iconic memorable films (even the action "flicks" , not to talk about other genres) . Now every studio play it safe with cape movies, or book/vidya adaptations that already have a fan base, and give the riskier projects to their "indie" department (while providing them with peanuts as a budget) . Can't blame them for wanting to make money, but Mel's point still stand, you can always go to McDonalds and get a burger that will definitely satisfy your needs, but only by going to those shady joints you will find a great burger (or you will find yourself with a severe case of diarrhea).
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>>70082971
Oh fuck, he'd be perfect. Hugh is too pretty for Old Man Logan.
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>>70082971
Mel as Nick Fury would be better
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>>70083613
>alcoholics age like milk
FTFY
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>>70086285
>they all shut up immediately
because they'd already called you a retarded faggot and moved on in search of threads with discussion. you're a crazy person.
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>>70083013
>>70082971
>>70083175
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>>70082381
How based can one man be
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>>70082381

He's not wrong since the average film budget these days makes the average film a gigantic risk nobody's willing to distribute anything but a sure bet so now we have award winners going straight to video.

Though he could easily help rectify the situation by starting up a distro house of his own.
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>>70083199
Only ameriniggers like capeship. Fuck off.
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>>70092434
yeeeeeessssss
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>yfw capeshit and the new ghost busters is going to break the theater wheel and destroy Hollywood.

All those shit remakes sure seem like a great idea now huh you son of a bitchs!
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>>70088098
/ck/ gets like 12 visitors a day. Fuck off retard
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>>70083043

Damn, that video made me feel good. RDJ and Mel seem like good guys. It pisses me off that Zach Galifinakis threw his weight around around to stop Mel from appearing in The Hangover 2, what a faggot.
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>>70100677
Why do you always post in my threads?
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>>70083179

Which is why capeshit has been dominating the box office for a decade, it only appeals to fringe groups.

Wait, what
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>>70101568
Expendables 3 was great because of Mel and Antonio Banderas. And then shit because of all the "young people".
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>>70083043
With Rdj on lifts as a viking
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>>70082381
>YFW WB is so desperate they hire Mel to direct an R rated Unknown solider movie
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>>70103287

The Garth Ennis series would make a good mini-series, had a nice X-files feel to it.
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>>70095647
I wonder what the Xmans would've been like if they had ended up with Danzig? Although I think he may be too old now (though I don't read comics so I'm not sure).
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W A R R I O R. OF G O D
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>>70082758
even if that is true, they didnt go in completely sure they would have sequels. they were prepared for the eventuality of The Matrix being not so successful and never getting sequels. Which is why while it is open ended, it still wraps itself up nicely, and works well as a stand alone movie. in fact, you could argue it works better as a standalone than as a trilogy, since it's an insight into the time it was made, while the sequels deviate into more generic action territory with some philosophy thrown in
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>>70082381
>be robert downey jewnior
>actually manage to get your buddy in the MCU made by fucking disney despite his past
>he refuses the role

what the fuck?
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Ive started seeing news articles popping up on this actually. That Cape movies have destroyed not only the traditional action film, but they have changed the way stardom works.

Gone are the days where someone like mel or Arnold or JCVD might have a breakout role that opens doors for them to do other movies, even if they are in the same genre- its all about getting a star first, and then getting more stars. not about making stars. and then those stars go on to become entirely defined by their cape roles. Evans is Captain America. Hemsworth is Thor, and they do little else anymore.

Meanwhile, you list off a big name form the 80's and you can lost more than a few different roles that person has played, in different, original movies.

Arnold was in Predator, Terminator, Kindergarten Cop, Raw Deal, Commando, the list goes on.

Meanwhile, Chris Hemsworth is Thor, Thor, more Thor.

its an entirely different dynamic that cape films have created and it's destroyed traditional action movies. Id say doing a cape flick is akin to selling your soul nowadays. its a shame because when a reala ction movie does come about every now and then, it tends to showcase what they COULD do with today's tech and effort. Like John Wick.

honestly I can see why Mel turned it down. he didnt want that to become what he is, and to be remembered for other movies
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>>70101568
>It pisses me off that Zach Galifinakis threw his weight around around to stop Mel from appearing in The Hangover 2
never heard of this, what's the actual story?
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>>70082381
no one questions the jews and gets away with it
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>>70101848
It seems to me like Sly's whole idea with the young people he casts in those movies was to potentially give them an action movie career boost. in the hopes that maybe having a classic action movie under their belt will propel them to a leading role somewhere.

but with action being dead and firmly in the stomach of capeshit, that seems unlikely
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>>70104576

Mel Gibson was supposed to have a role in The Hangover 2. Zach Galifinakis threw a bitch fit and used his influence to stop it from happening. At the time Zach was dating some anti-domestic violence advocate chick too. Zach is a funny comedian but he's a pretty big cuck off screen.
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>>70104656
I doubt anyone can see Ronda Rousey on camera and think anything would come of it. her casting was basically a meme.
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>>70104656
Maybe if he actually made the Expendables movies good he could succeed in that.
For some reason Stallone has been cockblocking himself his entire career, his first script is one of the greatest masterpiece of American cinema and he didn't even go to film school, and then he proceeds to write a lot of diarrhea.
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>>70104792
>If Gina Carano can so can I!

must have been the thought
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>>70104576
>When it comes to "a movie you're acting in," says Galifianakis, 41, "you don't have a lot of control – you just show up and vomit your lines out. I mean, I'm not the boss. I'm in a deep protest right now with a movie I'm working on, up in arms about something. But I can't get the guys to ... I'm not making any leeway."
>When Aukerman starts to reveal the title of the movie, Hangover 2, Galifianakis stops him cold.
>"It has something to do with a movie I'm working on, yeah," concedes Galifianakis. "I'll tell you about it later. It's very frustrating."

What a fucking cuck.
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>>70082555
My family is extremely Jewish but I love Mel Gibson and 100% back up everything he says. I really wish he'd make more movies.
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>>70100881
your mom gets 12 visitors a day
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