old >>69137953
If you're a member of a Federation ship's crew with a holodeck, what program would you use during your break/downtime? Mine would be playing as Julius Caesar during the Gallic campaign
Threadly reminder that you will NEVER watch the DS9 spinoff where Dukat, Kira, Damar, and Ziyal go on space adventures in a stolen Bird of Prey
You will NEVER watch Dukat slowly work his magic on Kira and redpill her on the occupation
You will NEVER watch the episode where Damar and Weyoun put aside their differences over a raucous 24-hour Kanar bender
You will NEVER watch the episode where Kira has to give Ziyal 'the talk'
>>69186450
Screw Klingon aerobics, I want to do old-timey workouts with Sandow.
Battle of Wolf 359
Hand to hand combat vs Klingons
Stealth infiltration in to secret Breen & Jem'Hadar installations
>>69186450
I would create a late 1930s cinema draft house in Upper Manhattan with nothing but holo-Germans who came en masse to watch Triumph of the Will.
I'd wait in the film booth while they packed into the theatre. Once it go to Hitler's speech, I'd select a variety of modern weapons to start scoping them out or just cause general mayhem.
They will be in utter shock and fear but the exits are chained shut. I start to lob grenades about into this large crowd of humanity. Mayhem ensues and the people are pleading for their lives.
This is when I finally open the window and yell out to the prostrate crowd...
"Life itself is only a vision… a dream. Nothing exists, save empty space and you. And you… are but a thought."
Then I turn around and casually order "Computer, Arch" and exit the holodeck without turning off the program.
It is assumed that those injured will suffer and die and be attended to by the very few left who were not victims of my assault.
>>69187258
Why the hell would you want to do The Battle of Wolf 359?
>>69187532
it's the most ebin moment in the franchise and actionbabbies love that kind of stuff
>>69187532
I have a better question.
Why would you not want to do The Battle of Wolf 359?
>>69186450
Why are the Q so afraid of the Borg? In "Q2", Q scolds Q for agitating the borg. What's the deal?
>>69187563
>Why would you not want to do that?
Presumably, if I'm in a Trek setting with some holodecks, Wolf 359 happened somewhere between immediately and ten years ago. It was a terrible battle, and I probably lost family in it.
Unless, we're talking about just you existing outside of the universe. Then yeah, I get it.
If we're talking hopeless scenarios, I wonder if a Lovecraft story could be adapted to a holodeck narrative.
>>69187636
Scolding him didn't mean they were afraid of them. Q could have made their entire race disappear on a whim.
It was more the fact that he was taking seriously liberties in messing with the natural development of the Milky Way Galaxy
>>69187636
>Why are the Q so afraid of the Borg?
Because Q2 was a horribly-written episode.
The only in-universe reason I can come up with is the Q see pissing off the Borg like dropping a hornet's nest on someone's (namely, the mortals of the galaxy) head.
>its another belanna gets raped by doppelganger paris but the writers dont even care episode
>>69187642
Yeah, I get your point about lost family. I was just thinking of a historical battle recreation, though.
>>69187636
>Q scolds Q for agitating the borg. What's the deal?
Because the Borg are belligerent and bent on conquest. Making them more so is unreasonable.
>>69186607
Why did O'brian go by a different name in early TNG?
>>69187636
The Borg are a necessary evil to keep the Yuuzhan Vong out of our galaxy.
>>69186450
>Commander Riker uses the holodeck for everything, from his darkest fantasies to the most ridiculously mundane task. One day he'll be oil wrestling with kangaroos on top of a giant mattress or making love to a duplicate of himself with huge breasts. The next day he'll show up in his bathrobe and use the holodeck to shower and shave himself. What makes me hate him is that Riker pays no attention to the rules about bodily fluids. He will use the holodeck just to go to the bathroom. He'll have a floating toilet made out of clouds and he'll lay the biggest and smelliest deuce I've seen this side of the neutral zone. Then he'll just walk right out like he's allowed to do that.
Sex and violence fantasies aside, probably mostly this
It's treason, then...
Is it me or O'brien is the most boring character in Star Trek? I would prefer he play villainous aliens. His actor and character has 0 charisma
>>69187801
heheh
>you will never pilot your Nicor class bioship through fluidic space and visit the Undine homeworld
>>69187884
Nice try, Keiko
Shouldn't you be taking care of Kirayoshi right now?
>>69187922
Go back to /v/ my friend.
Post your favorite Star Trek episodes
>TNG
forget about them, have to rewatch
>DS9
Magnificent Ferengi
>VOY
Doc becoming ECH
>ENT
Episode where Archer got brain AIDS and cant remember
>>69187957
Last thread the /v/fags were proudly discussing which reddits they browse
Disgusting
>>69187802
That got me thinking, what happens to the cum?
>>69188022
Recycled for use in replicators.
>>69187937
Actually, it makes it easier to find between the endless capeshit, got, and other threads.
Not sure why this angers people so much.
>>69186450
I'd run the holoprogram where I'm inside a vagina as its being fucked. Just sit in there watch as this enormous donger just plugged away for hours at a time.
>>69188100
Hmmm... So why wouldn't shit be the same?
>>69187884
>0 charisma
Well, he is an engineer.
>>69187922
After having to resort to beating a guy to death with a phaser rifle because shooting him wouldn't do shit, I've had my fill of Voyager crap, so I'm cool with not doing any of that.
>>69187944
YOU JUST HAD TO BLOW MY COVER!
>>69187984
>TNG
The Inner Light (first time I chocked up watching a t.v. show)
>DS9
Any episode with Section 31 in it
>VOY
The one where the hunter aliens play Nazis and turn the ship into a huge holodeck
>ENT
Twilight
>>69188103
Putting "Trek" in the first post makes the thread easier to find in the catalog, e.g.
>>>/tv/trek
Putting "general" in there doesn't.
>>69188262
>"We are evil aliens. You can tell that we're evil because we have studied your ancient Earth history and decided that your ancient Earth Nazis were admirable. That's just how evil we are."
Yawn.
>>69187984
>TOS
Journey to babel
>TNG
Measure of a Man
>VOY
The Alien Nazi one
>DS9
Vulcan baseball or ocean's 11
>ENT
Mirror universe episode
Not trolling, but Deep shit 9 is turbopleb pew pew for actionbabbies and Voyager is infinitely superior
>>69187984
>TOS
'Who Mourns for the Adonais?' or 'The Squire of Gothos'
>TNG
'The Inner Light' or 'Best of Both Worlds' (I know, pleb choices)
>DS9
'Trials and Tribble-ations'
>VOY
'Bride of Chaotica!'
>ENT
The one with the old west town in space. 'North Star,' was it?
I just realized I like a lot of the comedy episodes.
What do star fleet soldiers look like
>>69188262
>hunter aliens play Nazis
Hirogen, quite possibly inspired by Predator.
>>69188605
MACOs.
>>69188605
Depends which era.
>>69188666
M.A.C.O.
>>69188103
>not having any trek-related keyword filtered to automatically show up at the top
Generals generally attract shitty posters who might otherwise leave the threads alone, though at this point activity has been so slow I can't blame people for posting them. Last thread was up for a day and got rescued from page 10 no less than 15 times
>>69188605
Like this
>>69188743
Star Trek threads attract shitty people. One might say that it's a garbage show for garbage people.
>>69188541
I don't think voyager was as bad as everyone pretends, but DS9 wasn't all actionbaby shit, it had some pretty treky episodes
Any episide in holo ireland in voy made me want to shoot myself
>>69188103
Generals are cancer and quickly fill up with shitposting memers because they are here all day every day. Just like /got/ and /who/. Trek threads are still comfy and actually have decent discussions still because it's not played out and talked about every goddam day.
>>69188860
>look at the rest of the board
>capeshit
>game of thrones
>bait
>porn threads
>pedospam
>frogposts
>maybe 10 threads that are actual serious tv/film discussion
It's not exactly a high bar but these threads are a world above most of the board. There's usually a respectable balance of discussion and shitposts/waifuposts which results in the hotpockets leaving them alone.
Scenario 1: Centauress waifu. I'd program her not to shit because that's not something I want to deal with and I'd probably just upscale the doorways of all the houses.
Scenario 2: Xenomorph Girl, with human lips instead of the scary teeth and boobs/butt/vag. No acid blood. Sapient and intelligent, capable of human communication.
Scenario 3: Early 21st Cent. Helping a waifish young girl transition into being a boy, sharing my clothes, playing video-games together
Scenario 4: Some sort of immense zoo attended entirely by emotionless robot where I can fuck all the animals ever discovered on any planet
Scenario 5: Some sort of violent wild-woman who will do everything in her power to repeatedly rape me, just hard enough for it not to be entirely enjoyable (I'm talking fractures here) and I'd have to fight her off.
Scenario 6: A world where I'm completely invisible and incorporeal and can wander through watching people go about their every day lives. The world is populated exclusively by women of every different colour and species.
Scenario 7: Every Alien Star Trek actor lines up in front of my, beginning with Armin Shimerman. They each approach me and I get to peel the prosthetics off their face - they thank me and tell me how uncomfortable it was then move on.
Scenario 8: I replicate myself a suit of golden armour, and present myself to a neolithic tribe and become their god. I preside over this tribe for thousands upon thousands of years essentially using my knowledge of the future to "cheat" the system (if I fuck up, I can just rewind it) building a sprawling utopia. Periodically, I'd elect personal concubines and catamites from the best I could find in my entire empire.
Scenario 9: A girlfriend who doesn't look at me with disgust when I ask to watch her pee.
nb; I'd work my entire life to get enough latinum to get and maintain a personal holo-deck because I' pretty sure I couldn't get away with this on Star Fleet.
>>69187487
>>69189118
Fucking Christ every scenario I read was more degenerate and mentally unstable than the last.
Please for the sake of the thread delete this
>>69189118
I bet this guy still writes letters and not just to the cast but extras like the guy who played Morn.
>>69189087
What wrong with capestuff and game of thrones? I love marvel, game of thrones, ds9 and the force awakens. What is wrong with talking about fun on topic things on /tv/?
>>69189118
>mfw walking in on your degenerate holodeck sessions
>>69189266
I only got into Star Trek in mid 2015, and have only watched TOS/TNG/DS9, haf a season of Voyager and a couple of the movies. I have yet to write to any of the actors and I don't think they'd appreciate my vision for what would happen if I were in the Star Trek universe.
>>69189286
>likes DS9
>and TFA
As a proud DS9 fanboi I want absolutely nothing to do with your faggot ass.
>>69188106
>>69189118
Do you have a spiral notebook where you write this shit down or do you just have that list ready to go at a moment's notice?
>>69189445
I'm pretty sure he has it all scrawled on human skin somewhere in his masturbatin' room.
>>69189286
FALSE FLAG
>>69189286
Senator Vreenak, his fist clenched, his eyes bulging, his voice a hissing whisper.
>>69186450
>/stg/ - Star Trek General
>General
Remember when /tv/ used to joke about Star Trek becoming a General as a gag.
Remember when we thought it would only happen if enough newfriends from other sites made it so on /tv/.
>DS9 image as the OP
This explains so much.
>>69189559
There must be something that can be done to stop the death of Trek on /tv/
Last time I tried to tell people to cool it down and that we didn't need a permanent general, they flipped a shit
>>69189559
>newfriends from other sites
Reddit doesn't like TOS, so as long as these threads continue to like TOS, you can't blame these threads on that site.
>>69189445
I typed it up just then. I retread these fnatasies pretty regularly in my head but I've yet to write them down anywhere other than 4chan.
I've been meaning to write them down in a google doc, curate and develop them but I'm too afraid someone will find out, since I usually let my girlfriend have access to it.
I have this overwhelming fear of there being a technological development in future where I'll be confronted with everything I've ever written on 4chan and it will be made public with my name attached to it.
>>69189118
>>69189653
>this level of autism
>girlfriend
>>69189639
>Reddit doesn't like TOS
But they do love ds9 which would explain the Ops use of the word general along side a ds9 image.
>>69189722
You can have these thoughts and still lead a normal life.
>>69189779
>but they do love ds9
That's just a myth
>>69189779
4chan, /tv/, and /trek/ threads love DS9.
As long as our tastes are different from Reddit then we can't blame DS9 on Reddit.
>>69189811
The autism is not having the thoughts per se. The autism is thinking anyone here wants to listen to those disgusting 'underage on /b/'-tier blogposts
>>69189779
You want to keep them out? Post and discuss ENT. It's actually pretty good but tourists get massively butthurt and triggered by anyone realizing this, much more so than TOS or even VOY
>>69189863
>If you're a member of a Federation ship's crew with a holodeck, what program would you use during your break/downtime?
>>69189825
>a myth
That poll was taking after /tv/ had already been invaded by newfriends from others sites no more than a month or two ago which makes the image and that poll irrelevant.
>>69189904
This show had fantastic potential. Shame to se it wasted on that fucking Temporal Cold War bullshit.
The stand alone episodes were pretty decent.
>>69189945
That poll isn't a /tv/ poll. You're so far up your own ass that you're making shit up on the spot.
>>69189904
>It's actually pretty good
It does have a few good episodes.
>>69189988
>Temporal Cold War
Easily the crappiest part of Enterprise.
I would fuck the bunny
>>69189825
>posting your stale, tired old false flag yet again
So do the DS9 fans ever make false flags against the Voyager fans?
Or is it only the Voyager fans who are desperate enough to make false flags against the DS9 fans?
>>69189931
>disgusting 'underage on /b/'-tier blogposts
>>69188262
Holy shit The Killing Games is the bottom of the voyager barrel
Fucking mulgrew can barely play the captain, let alone the captain thinking shes someone else
>>69190161
You're right. Let's all have endless arguments about whether my favourite Trek series is better than your favourite Trek series, and whose tastes are "Reddit" or not, then.
>>69189945
That post was a joke. Notice the tab bait?
>>69190107
Holy fuck this is what trek threads have come to
>>69190199
Gladly, we need to purge those fucks from these threads.
Starting with anyone who posts The Fedora Generation
>>69190199
Well according to >>69189825, TNG is the most Reddit.
Therefore, we must either accept Reddit or reject TNG.
VOTE NOW
http://www.strawpoll.me/10147385
>>69189825
This is objectively correct
GOIN' DOWN TO EDEN... YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, BROTHER.
>>69190268
This is a paradox therefore I cannot answer.
>>69190268
>or reject TNG.
Anyone with half a brain already did this
>it's a "Benjamin Sisko is a crime writer in the 1940s" episode
>>69190357
Bad forced meme
>>69190357
>crime writer
No, he wrote science fiction for one of the SciFi pulp mags.
>>69190042
>That poll isn't a /tv/ poll.
I seem to remember a single person who wouldn't stop posting a link to that poll every single day for about a week on /tv/ a few months back which resulted in that image. The image was than posted over and over again (as you have now) as if to imply that it reflected which Trek show was Preferred on /tv/.
>>69190391
Gul Dukat; Mall (du)Cop
>>69190357
shut the fuck up
>>69190402
You're a newfriend who doesn't remember shit.
Our /trek/ polls never reach 2000+ voters.
>>69190402
I was the one who created that tab-bait image
It was meant to parody the people who used it to argue 'tng is reddit and therefore ds9 is patrician' or some bullshit like that even though ds9 was in second place
Also the person you are replying to wasn't the poster
>>69190402
For me, it goes
>TNG
>DS9
>ENT
>VOY
>TOS
The Original Series I couldn't imagine trying to watch again because it's so, so dated. The main reason to watch it is for the great interpersonal relationship between Kirk, Spock, and Bones. There's some really good episodes, but the stories feel much more fantantastical than any other Trek.
>>69190470
>not liking TOS
Do you know which website you belong on?
>>69190470
>another anon who likes ENT better than TOS
I thought I was the only one on this board
>>69190419
>Security program vaporizes some random crewman in Ops
>No one even mentions his name or even the fact that it happened only seconds after it did
>Everything goes back to normal at the end of the episode
Killing off redshirts always kind of takes me out of whatever I'm watching, Star Trek especially.
>>69190499
wow its just like >>69190402 only backwards and out of order
>>69190499
You realize VOY is tied there and ENT is last place, right? The only things above it are DS9 and TNG, which are almost always above it in our polls too
>>69190573
4chan agrees with Reddit that Voyager and Enterprise are the worst, because that's just objective fact.
But 4chan rates TOS highly. If people don't rate TOS highly then they don't belong here.
"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
>>69190459
>here since winter 2014
>newfriend
![Tom-Paris-Kathryn-Janeway-Lizard-Threshold-Star-Trek-Voyager[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DiKFNvS.jpg "Tom-Paris-Kathryn-Janeway-Lizard-Threshold-Star-Trek-Voyager[1].jpg")
They discovered infinite speed, and the only side effect was easily reversible using radiation therapy. Why didn't they use it to go back to Earth and then have everybody undergo the radiation treatment from The Doctor? Why didn't they send it on autopilot to Earth with a message about their location? Why didn't they ever mention it again?
>>69190678
But you've stumbled upon a paradox
Reddit hates ENT more than anything else. Thus, if you like ENT, especially if it is one of your favorites, you are opposing reddit
"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
>>69190499
>>69190499
Yeah, isohunt, kat.cr, and vimeo
>>69190710
Holy fuck I hope this is a false flag or bait
>>69190688
>>69190723
the ending to that episode was legitimately depressing.
Definitely the darkest ending to any TNG episode. Even when Picard become a borg there was a "to be continued" and you knew they would save him next week
>>69190719
It's a good thing that I don't care about opposing Reddit then.
I just care about opposing people who oppose TOS.
>>69190718
"Star Trek on UPN was a mistake." - Gene Roddenberry
>>69190861
nice meme but Roddenberry was dead before voyager even aired for the first time
>>69190466
The poll was posted in the first place because some /trek/ posters kept insisting that DS9 is the most Reddit series. Well, that poll made for good proof otherwise.
>>69190678
>>69190678
TOS was great for it's time, but it has now reached it's time where everything about how it was filmed, how the sets were made, the music and pace of storytelling, the costuming, the entire college theatre feel of it, it really destroys any immersion until actual good acting occurs which is usually between Kirk, Spock, and Bones. Those three are all that redeem the show to me, save for the beautiful women.
The storylines were typical Roddenberry scripts. The only character development was in the main three and even then, it was mostly Spock. Everything else had a very perfunctory feel to it.
But Gene set out to create a decent sci-fi show, not something that would turn into a billion dollar franchise. His timing was perfect and his casting were perfect. But the best stuff came after TOS, that should be evidenced by TNG's ratings which were unreal towards the end (15 million viewers for some episodes).
>I love most Trek I just find this "go back to plebbit" shit really dull and childish. I only come to /tv/ for Trek threads and barely anything else.
>>69190932
Yeah, but he does have a point. UPN was a goddamn terrible choice for Trek.
>>69190932
>At a press conference about Star Trek: The Next Generation, a reporter asked Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry about the decision to produce the program as a syndicated series, commenting that "Surely the resources of a network studio would allow Star Trek to operate with a larger budget, giving the means to hire higher-caliber actors and use more realistic special effects."
>Gene Roddenberry, remembering his experiences with NBC in the sixties, had the perfect response.
>"No, by the 24th century, humanity will have evolved beyond network television, recognizing that parasitic abomination for the low-brow bottom-feeding ratings-chasing embarrassment that it is."
>>69190824
Every criticism anon made was accurate though.
TOS is iconic and it invented much of the core Trek lore, but when viewed objectively rather than as a product of its time, it's not great.
TOS started airing only 3-4 years after color tv itself had become universalized in the US, and everything from the acting to the set design to the screenwriting to the camera work to the sound mixing is marred by the newness of the medium and the close connection with stage acting.
The theatrical or 'stagelike' quality of Trek remained through all the spinoff series and is a core part of the franchise, but TOS takes it up to 20 in terms of blocking that would be laughed at today.
On a basic level, people tend to underestimate just how far the economy of ideas has come in the last 50 years, in the area of speculative fiction more than perhaps anything else. We're only 20 years from DS9/VOY and even they seem retrograde in the treatment of subjects like AI and computerization
I would agree someone is a pleb if they 'dislike' TOS or complain about something like 'the special effects aren't good' but I totally understand ranking it lowly on the scale of Trek series
>>69190960
>best stuff
>evidenced by ratings
more upvotes = better amirite
I've never watch DS9 because it's shit
>>69190981
Those comments are prophetic but in the wrong way. The future will be a bunch of low budgeted, occasionally interesting series on streaming services or even YT. The rest will be multi-million dollar lens flaring bait for the livestock.
>>69191048
Keep making my point for me, oh ancient one.
I'm waiting for more than two lines of what is probably all you can muster and not actually bait (which I hope for your sake it is.
>And yes, ratings matter, just watch how they went downhill from the start of DS9.
I watched DS9 and can confirm it's shit.
>>69191128
Never forget that DS9 had higher ratings than Voyager.
>>69191128
Do you seriously, unironically, non-baitingly believe DS9's first season was better than its later seasons?
DS9 season 1 was the worst season out of any Trek show, VOY and ENT included
>>69191128
I wasn't the anon you were arguing with. should i make an account before chiming in next time?
>>69191353
DS9 had one GOAT episode (Duet), which puts it above any season with zero GOAT episodes (like TNG s1).
>>69191353
No, anon, I see you're having trouble understanding that I wasn't implying a single fucking thing about season 1. I was implying that everything ratings wise went downhill after TNG which is widely considered the best of the series.
Looky here for all you need to know about what I was suggesting.>>69191287
>>69191394
Yeah, man, gold passes are cheap, sign right in and I'll mansplain it to you like Wil Wheaton does. #MemeMeUpScotty
>>69191394
>mfw I'm a redditor and you've finally caught me
>>69191434
I'd rather watch The Neutral Zone than Duet any day.
>>69190526
>I was the only one
Not the anon you were replaying to but you are not alone.
>>69191439
>I was implying that everything ratings wise went downhill after TNG which is widely considered the best of the series.
And the later seasons of DS9 were infinitely better than the first one, so that belays your point, unless you had been implying DS9 S1 was the best
>>69191453
For the record, GtCKJMHb.jpg was not an imgur filename.
>>69191462
The Neutral Zone is just Space Seed 2.0 but with all the interesting parts removed and replaced with boring shit like smug self-satisfied proclamations of how superior the TNG crew is to pathetic 20th century losers.
>>69191453
I'm sick and tired of Star Trek threads being derailed by petty arguments, so I want to set the record straight once and for all: A filename of this nature is not indicative of a file saved from Imgur. Even though this combination of letters might be confusing to your feeble little mind, that fact has no bearing on the fact that this filename is an original construction, specifically in the form of an initialism (NOT an acronym, in case anyone is dumb enough to think so). In this case, the letters "TWtDTtrwtwwatJ" are used as a short form of "Three Ways to Do This: the right way, the wrong way and the Janeway", because those words describe the comedic content of this humorous image. They do not indicate that this file was saved with that name from the URL of the file on Imgur, because it wasn't. So don't even f*cking think of bringing up Imgur if you know what's good for you.
Now that that's over with, let's go back to talking about Star Trek.
>>69191514
>>69191586
Kek, I forgot about that autist
>>69191519
The dickishness of the TNG crew is a large part of why I like it. Also doing a cryonics ep with average joes is more interesting to me than doing it with ubermenschen.
I'd watch The Neutral Zone over Space Seed any day too
>>69191586
I'd do janeway the wrong and the right way if you know what I meme.
>>69191453
Well at least you can die with your 60s nostalgia there like the rest of jobless retort food here.
>>69191500
No, you're absolutely right, but my point was in terms of viewership there is a correlation with the previous demographics preference which in this case was TNG. The two were diametrically opposed in every way except for the universe they were portrayed in. Many of these fans were die-hard "Trekkies" who couldn't see a show that felt more realistic with character development. Nonetheless, it struggled and still more people dislike it than like it compared to TNG.
Same can be said with twice the effort comparing TNG to VOY.
So my point is actually valid in the larger scope which is what I was going for.
>although DS9 probably suffered a great loss because of both the first season or two and the drastic shift from antiseptic TNG to cardy killin' prophet praising DS9
>>69191611
>he likes TNG more than TOS
>he likes TNG more than DS9
I think it's time for you to go back
>>69191611
Okay, so you're different and special, but can you understand why most people might prefer a show where the characters are actually likable?
>>69191677
>>69191453
>>69191129
>>69191048
>>69190499
We're all adults here, right? Or at least legal adults, I assume.
>27 ips
>143 replies
Well this thread went to StoVoKor in a handbasket
I guess this can serve as a case study in why permanent generals destroy any semblance of quality discussion
>>69191886
Why are you quoting five of my posts? Other than all coming from me, what do they have in common?
>>69191994
A need for some sort of prescription medication? A better outlet to creatively express oneself? Glasses that also interpret the images you see and the words you read as they were originally intended..?
>>69191677
I like The Neutral Zone more than Space Seed or Duet. I might like TOS better than TNG overall, but that's a close one.
>>69191788
Are you arguing that DS9 is for the pedestrian and ordinary? Also, what made you switch to cunt mode?
>>69191980
>StoVoKor
>Not "Sto'Vo'Kor" or "Sto-vo-kor"
Found the Marc Okrand pretender-OUT WITH YE' SCOUNDREL OF DETEST!
>>69192076
>Are you arguing that DS9 is for the pedestrian and ordinary?
I'm arguing that
>DS9 season 1 was the worst season out of any Trek show, VOY and ENT included
isn't correct because DS9 s1 had better episodes than TNG s1.
Why are you pretending that I'm arguing something else? You know that I'm not, so why pretend?
>Also, what made you switch to cunt mode?
Since you like the TNG s1 crew, I figure that this is the best way to get you to like me.
>>69192162
TNG seasons 1&2 being bad is nothing more than a meme, which, evidently, you fell for.
DS9 season 1 gave us this
>>69192162
I'm not arguing anything except that TNG had what I consider to be a GOAT episode, The Neutral Zone. I defended this opinion and then not only were goalposts moved but personal attacks were launched. I find this extremely upsetting. I only came into this thread to talk about Star Trek episodes, not to have angry people post insults at me. I mean, this is ridiculous.
>>69192202
>TNG seasons 1&2 being bad is nothing more than a meme, which, evidently, you fell for.
Ah yes, the contrarian opinion arrives.
>>69192287
>anyone who disagrees with reddit's consensus is a contrarian
>>69192287
I agree with him and it's my genuine opinion not held out of any desire to oppose others.
>>69192149
Why did you go to the trouble of faking your image? Do you really have no life?
Yes, all those (You)s belong to (Me).
>>69192224
Are you the guy who originally mentioned he didn't like TOS much, or the guy who said he was a pleb for not liking TOS? Neither?
>>69191500
yeeeeee boiiiii ds9 is my favorite trek too yo
>>69192354
Your """proof"""
>>69192309
Why do you care so much about what Reddit thinks?
That's right, because you're only in this to get attention, and mentioning Reddit is a good way to get some.
>>69192393
What is that? Chrome? I use Internet Explorer.
>>69192379
>posting your stale, tired old false flag yet again
So do the DS9 fans ever make false flags against the Voyager fans?
Or is it only the Voyager fans who are desperate enough to make false flags against the DS9 fans?
>>69192395
I mentioned it because in that instance you were literally citing a reddit viewpoint and holding it up as some divine dictum wherein anything opposed is 'contrarianism'
Trek threads here have long recognized that early TNG being bad is a myth, which you would know if you didn't just start posting in these threads 3 days ago
This thread is an abomination filled with scatposters and petulants.
Set phasers to kill.
>>69192485
>Trek threads here have long recognized that early TNG being bad is a myth,
Prove it.
You do have proof that most people here share your opinion, right? You're not just posting your gut feeling and hoping that it's true, right?
>>69192462
>Implying I'm a Voyager fan.
>>69190723
They're yellow and green if you know what I mean.
>>69192462
No one is false flagging against DS9. It's a DS9fag lie and a pathetic attempt at smearing Voyager fans,.
>>69192659
What does false flagging now mean?
Does it no longer mean what it originally meant (an orchestrated event meant to affect a specific change)?
>>69187884
O'Brian was the best character. None of that Mary Gary Stu bullshit like most other Trek characters, he was just a salt of the Earth blue collar guy.
>>69192874
Anon was implying people were pretending to be DS9 fans and posting stupid stuff to defame DS9 fans, which is precisely what a false-flag attack is
>>69192874
That's not what false flagging originally meant.
Here's the program I'd write, it's about 3 hours long:
I start by having passionate sex with Allison Brie. I cum inside her, and then over the next 2 hours or so, we spoon and play Mario Kart or Super Smash Brothers while she slowly bloats as 9 months of gestation take place in a matter of hours.
She goes into labor, but there's a complication. In order for birth to happen, I have to fuck her and stimulate her vaginal orgasm contractions with an enzyme in my semen that modulates her cervical oxytocin and allows delivery to finish.I nut in her, my baby slides out, and then I watch her nurse it. I start fucking her again while she's nursing it, I nut again and collapse on her, a holy trinity. Then I have the holodeck turn the baby's flesh into funnel cake filled with creme brulee and strawberry ice cream with whipped cream, and we ravenously consume it together.
>>69192874
It's when a Voyager fan pretends to be a DS9 fan, and they make a low-quality post to make it look like DS9 fans are responsible for low-quality posts.
For example, >>69189286 and >>69189825 and >>69192379 are all anti-DS9 posts from Voyager fans (pretending to be pro-DS9 posts from DS9 fans).
>>69192903
I thought he was simply disparaging the show, I haven't kept track of that nonsense since I haven't been here long enough to care about such posts.
>>69192914
You're just here for the yous, I wish I could respect that.
>>69192956
Do you actually think this post
>>69192379
Is meant to be pro-DS9? It's clearly him trying to incite DS9 fans.
>>69192956
Why do you automatically assume they are Voyager fans?
>>69187984
>TOS
Romulan babe, totally unlike any Romulans I'd seen before.
>TNG
Big fan of the Worf episodes but Yesterday's Enterprise was pretty great sci-fi.
>DS9
Hard. The one where Nog hides from his PTSD in Vic's holoprogam, or the one where they retake the station from the Dominion, or the one where JG Hertzler plays a changeling, or...
>ENT
Been awhile but I remember the one where Archer has to kick Shran's ass for some reason as being particularly memorable.
>VOY
no.
>Movie
The Search for Spock. The Klingon villain was bone chilling.
>>69193045
Because VOYfags are like the Australians of trek threads and cannot go give seconds without shitposting something
Do you really think it's TNG, TOS, or ENT fans?
>>69193035
It's clearly an anti-DS9 post pretending to be pro-DS9, and as such a "false flag".
>>69193045
Because VOY vs. DS9 is the classic /trek/ rivalry.
>>69192986
False flagging did not originally mean "an orchestrated event meant to affect a specific change".
>>69193077
>The one where Nog hides from his PTSD in Vic's holoprogam
Found the patrician. Most people hate Vic because 'they use him too much!', despite him appearing in like 6 out of 150 episodes
>>69190688
>>69190723
borgmind
OP, if you're reading this right now, I've been suffocated while trying to add something worthwhile to your thread.
Please delete this thread the next chance you get or others may die from the unbathed and beastly degenerates engaging in their killing zone of lies.
The future is in your hands.
>>69193124
Bumping for "it did".
>>69193188
>implying the type of retard who names a thread "Star Trek General" doesn't love pointless arguments and discussion that goes nowhere
>>69193188
>>69193224
All you had to do was close your tab.
In the words of the famous Broccoli, "Computer, end program."
>>69193219
I'm not sure what this post means but he is right. A "False flag attack", from which you get the verb "false-flagging", originally meant precisely what the name implies - carrying out a negative action under a false flag in order to indict an innocent group.
Say a Turkish ship raising the Spanish flag and then goes around terrorizing ships, that would be the Ottomans "false-flagging" to defame Spain
Where did you get this idea that it simply meant an action to change something?
>>69193219
Only inasmuch as "an orchestrated event meant to affect a specific change" could describe any human action. Please don't post at me any more, you don't know what you're talking about and I don't like you.
>>69189118
I'm not even disgusted, I'm impressed.
>>69193219
Everyone else is calling you dumb so I will too.
>>69193099
>It's clearly an anti-DS9 post pretending to be pro-DS9
>clearly
Clearly? ?
That's one odd dream within a dream type theory you got there. How deep down the rabbit hole have you gone ?
Sometimes I hate these threads, the posters are all plebbitors who have no real knowledge about anything and only love Dumb shit 9 because they haven't experienced the glory of voyager the best show to ever grace the airwaves.
>>69193277
If 9/11 is a false flag attack then I'm completely right and you're approximating microcephalic levels of idiocy.
Keep posting.
>>69193289
Then so could previous posters descriptions of something that means exactly what I defined it as. Please don't breathe anymore, you can't comprehend language, and I don't care about you being alive.
>>69193309
Just as a good sheep in the pasture should, job well done!
>love every Trek series
>routinely post bait in these threads about how different series are 'shit' anyways
>sometimes argue completely opposite points in the span of five minutes
>>69193314
>post says "ds9 is my favorite trek"
>you reject the implication that the post is meant to appear as pro-DS9
So at this point, you know that you're wrong, and you're only arguing for the sake of arguing, yeah?
>>69193384
>If 9/11 is a false flag attack then I'm completely right and you're approximating microcephalic levels of idiocy.
Uhh... what? If we assume that 9/11 was actually carried out by someone other than AQ, then yes, that would make it a 'false flag' attack, precisely in line with the definition I gave you
>>69193384
What's with the digest posts?
>>69193151
Cute chick but doesn't she kiss the arab doctor and a black guy on the the show.
>>69193423
And in line with my definition since it affected massive change in the US including PRISM, the Patriot Act and executive order legislation change.
Now DIG!
>>69190526
No anon, I prefer ENT to TOS too
>>69193488
In the utopian future of the 24th century, it will be understood by all that /pol/ was wrong.
>>69193408
2deep4me, bro
We all understand that That Anon doesn't know what false flagging originally meant. Can we get back to discussing DS9?
>>69193496
Can you point to any person (other than yourself) who uses your definition for false flag?
>>69193496
But as >>69193289 pointed out to you, the definition you gave was so vague and broad it could apply to millions of things. Clicking the 'post' button on 4chan is "an orchestrated event meant to affect a specific change" but it is no a false-flag
When did Neetlix's eye change color again?
>>69193584
>>69193594
"orchestrated (conspiracy) event meant to affect a specific change (disparagement of a people, retraction of laws / dissolution of laws, any number of things).
I like this pretend ride we're on (all three of us).
>>69193625
When he took out his contacts.
You're welcome, I'm always happy to help out with any and all of your questions.
>>69193519
How come every time something slightly racist is posted on /tv/ anons always automatically blame /pol/ ?
This reply has all most reached meme status at this point.
>>69193659
Why are racist posts even being posted in Star Trek threads in the first place? Because /pol/ can't control itself.
>>69193488
Ezri getting KLINGON'd was the fault of degenerate Jadzia's memories pushing through when Worf was forcing himself on her. After she made her mistake she realized how disgusting it was and repented
Bashir was genetically engineered so he was an ubermensch even though he was Arab, plus he was part Anglo in the first place
Ezri is pure and would NEVER debase herself with an inferior species under her own volition
>>69193659
Because we know you filthy /pol/tards have infected the threads
>>69193640
I see you responding to a question, but I don't see you answering that question. Why is that?
>>69190688
>>69190723
When I was rewatching that episode it triggered a fap session
>tfw hopelessly attracted to androgynous people
>the idea of fucking a sexless androgynous species and having them explore your sexed genitalia and body
Hnnnngg
>>69193718
>point to any other person
What you want me to show you how to click /pol/?
Or find specific people in my daily life or on other websites?
I answered your question here since "reading between the lines" is akin to rocket science for you.
>>69193640
>>69192942
4/10
>>69193640
Where did you find this vague definition? If you google 'define false flag' the first result is wikipedia which clearly states
>The contemporary term false flag describes covert operations that are designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them
Captcha: 1488
>>69193625
Fun Fact: Neelix's look was based on Pumbaa after one of the creators of the show saw The Lion King in theaters and wanted a fun warm character like Pumbaa on the show.
>>69193151
Thanks anon, I also prefer Ezri over Jadzia.
>>69193763
I asked you to point to any person (other than yourself) who uses your vague definition for false flag.
You pointed to yourself.
Can you just go ahead and admit now that you're only trolling, so that we can all abandon the conversation without regrets and move on with our lives?
>>69193501
One day, brother, people will recognize ENT's greatness
And one day the Terran Empire will rule the Alpha Quadrant again
>>69193784
The definition I gave didn't come from any source, nor does it need to. Read here for CONTEXT since the abstraction was just too much to get an answer for yourself.
>>69193640
>also, I agree with the previous definition but they are all within an umbrella of false-flagging since the genesis of it in the modern mainstream began with 9/11 and 9/11 truthers
>>69193839
You were the one that continued giving yous even though I gave you context that you shouldn't have needed given my previous example.
You can go ahead and admit that you're under a parental guardian's care and receiving disability permissions at your local community college.
>>69193705
>you filthy /pol/tards
>>69193678
/pol/ can't control itself.
I don't visit /pol/ . I don't follow or care about politics and I've never even posted there.
It's about time /tv/ found a new boogeyman to blame.
>>69193791
Saying "fun fact" is such a faggy Reddit thing to say
>>69193488
No. She kisses the genetically superior career doctor/researcher (DUDE PRIONS LMAO) and the paragon of Klingon honor and virtue.
In the future, a man will be judged on the content of his character and the merit of his work rather than the heritage of his fathers.
>>69193850
>Read here for CONTEXT since the abstraction was just too much to get an answer for yourself.
No, you're trying to sweep under the rug the fact that this all came up when you posted >>69192874
I quote, emphasis added:
>Does it no longer mean WHAT IT ORIGINALLY MEANT (an orchestrated event meant to affect a specific change)
The idea that this is what it 'originally meant' is categorically wrong, and this sophism about how it originated in the modern age with 9/11 is laughable
There is no 'umbrella' of false-flagging that entails 'any event to orchestrate change'. Really, basic interpretive logic should tell you that the phrase would not be "False flag" if it didn't actually have anything to do with false identities.
>>69193920
I wouldn't know what rddit language sounds like because I'm over the age of 40 and I find that site to hard to figure out. I don't know how to use it so I don't visit it.
>>69193944
>the genetically superior career doctor
That's a funny way of saying brown arab guy with a british accent.
>general
>>69194090
You're right.
Next thread should be "Star Trek Admiral".
>>69193996
Well, not sure if you are the same anon, but it came about from this post.. which later someone said was a VOYfag PRETENDING TO BE a DS9 fan to "false-flag" the series.
>>69192379
With that post I was confused also because you interpreted incorrectly since that post is so CLEARLY just a bait post and hardly false-flagging (and I feel sorry for you if you truly believe it was that).
While the original definition I gave could've been fleshed out more, never was the term used in the mainstream until 9/11 truthers came forth with a growing body of evidence about what might have happened at 9/11.
Your definition isn't wrong but you're inability to spot that as nothing more than simple bait is embarassing.
I was implying by that a conspiratorial event meant to affect a change (a negative one where the conspirators achieve their goals from the change therein affected).
You want to keep talking about this shit all night so you can give yourself a false-flag victory where you win a $100 (fun) dollars?
>>69186450
>watching the most r/atheism tier show
>calling other people Redditors as an insult
>>69194086
Consider the consequentialism of absolute divinity, wherein anything intended or decided by the given divinity becomes truth ipso facto
You can see the notion exemplified in Christianity here in Milton's Paradise Lost, book 3, line 133:
>Father, who art judge / Of all things made, and judgest only right
Now consider Ezri's godhead. Since she accepted Bashir, that necessarily makes him a superior and acceptable partner
>>69194284
Oh look, we've got ourselves a real Ralph Waldo Emerson on the board.
What multi-syllabic terms and archaic references will he wow us with next?
>I'm guessing valetudinarian and "Dante's Inferno"
>>69190792
I never really understood the tragedy. I mean after they are "fixed." they're totally happy, so what's the problem. Imagine if they cured transgenderism the same way. The person just stops feeling like the other gender, why would that be a bad thing, especially considering all the mental distress they feel due to not looking how they want.
>>69194211
>poster claims to be pro-DS9
>poster is actually anti-DS9
>poster is attempting to make pro-DS9 posters look bad
That's a false flag, according to the worldwide accepted definition for false flags.
It's bait too, but guess what-- it can be bait AND a false flag at the same time.
You disagreed because you have your own, separate, incompatible definition for false flagging, one which you are completely unable to provide a source for.
>never was the term used in the mainstream until 9/11 truthers came forth
You are unable to provide a source for this too.
>You want to keep talking about this shit all night so you can give yourself a false-flag victory where you win a $100 (fun) dollars?
I just want to see if you are capable of admitting it when you make mistakes, or if you think that you don't make mistakes when funposting on the 4chins.
>>69194284
Ezri Dax represents the duality of man.
All the bad parts of humanity are represented by Ezri, and all the good parts are represented by Dax (who reminds us of Jadzia, who was perfection personified).
>>69194284
I kinda recall her also kissing a dark black man on the show once while wearing this >>69193151
red sexy outfit. Did I dream this or did it really happen?
>>69193920
sure it is.
the saying has been around long before Reddit was a thing but yes it is a "faggy Reddit thing to say"
>>69194211
I am not the person who kept insisting that the last one was a false flag. The first two were false flags (hell, I posted one of them), but the last one was too on-the-nose to be taken as one.
In that much, I agree with you.
What I will still maintain is bullshit is this notion that the term 'false flag' was some forgotten obsoletism that was dredged up by 9/11. It has been used throughout the modern era and, while frequently conencted with 9/11, it has no more correlation with that than many other attacks.
To see for yourself, search 'false flag' in this 1.9 billion word corpus search:
http://corpus.byu.edu/wiki/
There are loads of usages on stuff from way before 9/11
If anything, the term was popularized by the sinking of the Maine in 1895
>>69194284
Dropped
>>69194392
I'm stupified by your stupidity in regards to that post with the kid and the basketball. If I post this pic am I false-flagging, hmm?
I basically said your definition is right and that I was giving a simple question that was based on your lousy ability to detect complete bait (nothing more).
So the entire thing is based in both your mis-interpreting someone else's definition of a false flag (assuming the cited is what you believe it to be - as do I) but also your inability to read between the lines of my definition.
Conspirators plan an event which is meant to affect change; the type that could negatively effect a certain people, geographic region, government, or just no one intended because the ends are what matters).
Imagine if this entire thread was dictated by citations on opinions that are barely provable but salient nonetheless. This, of course, in regards to your asking me for a source on the 9/11 truther claim. The internet became an outlet for these more political terms to become mainstream, especially when you consider the hivemind that is /pol/.
My only mistake was not typing out a very specific definition of what I knew as false flagging.
>>69194461
you spend alot of time thinking of white women romantically linked to black dudes.
>>69186450
probably holocapeshit
>>69194634
A conspiracy is two or more people. A false flag can be achieved by a single person.
Even when backpedaling, you still get this shit wrong.
>>69194613
>(hell, I posted one of them)
And now that you've seen the effects of false flagging, you've learned your lesson and will never engage in it again.
>>69194634
>ability to detect complete bait (nothing more)
This can't exist without omniscience or really strong telepathy, like P13+
>>69194754
My name is Alfred Bester, and my telepathy level is B5.
>>69194457
I started reading this post and smiling knowing an acolyte was present ITT, but then recoiled in disgust at that heretical claptrap it devolved into.
Three Hail Ezris and you're forgiven, just never post a thought so false and dangerous again.
>>69194461
Ferengi lies inserted into your dreams. My memory is foggy too but all I remember was her dropping her tray or something; Kira was the one who was distracting the mob boss and Cassidy was distracting the police officer
>>69194747
The thing is, it was a double false flag. I was a DS9 fan false-flagging as a VOY fan false-flagging as a DS9 fan
>>69194613
>If anything, the term was popularized by the sinking of the Maine in 1895
Oh, we need a citation, sorry, penalty on the sidelines.
Also, your search criteria gives me 310 hits out of 1.9 billion, so staggering I like I felt my nostrils flare.
>>69194691
Okay, well you have me there but my point remains that the general idea there is a event meant to be perceived as something that it is not for the sake of affecting a change that would work to the advantage of the prime-mover party involved (and not just for the specific intent of disparaging a single group).
If that's backpedaling, then I concede to that one.
I still want you to admit you couldn't spot the easiest bait in this thread and not only that, made the assumption that it was a "false-flag" attempt.
>>69194839
This sounds dumb enough to be written by Brannon Braga.
>>69194657
Do you even know where you are?
