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What does /who/ think of the first ever Doctor Who audio?
Last thread >>69027441
>>69060291
Series 9 did nothing wrong.
>>69059982
You're crazy if you think Deep Breath and Sherwood were better than the Davros episodes.
>>69060574
There's nothing wrong with Deep Breath.
New thread to kill subject as usual
>>69060667
It was good. But better than the Davros episodes?
Series 8, 1-9 is the best modern run of stories with a proper, takes-no-shit Doctor.
>>69060291
>implying anyone has listened to this shit
Ian Levine wrote Day of the Doctor. Did you know that?
>>69060698
The Davros ep was awful.
>>69060733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DatE-o3WETE
>>69060733
Yeah bro
>>69060739
You should, it's notthatbad and it's an important part of the show's history.
>>69060788
I'm glad you agree.
>>69060756
Why? The conversations between 12 and Davros were great and something that was really lacking in his last appearance. The Master fucking with Clara was also a lot of fun.
>>69060698
>>69060574
The Davros episodes were a narrative mess. The misused Missy, wasted the Daleks, and frankly wasted our time. Unless you like the Doctor ripping Davros out of his chair or playing guitar from an anachronistic armoured assault vehicle. The things swung big and missed even bigger.
Deep Breath and Sherwood told their stories, had some neat and/or cringey moments, and got on with it.
Series 8 is GOAT. Kill the Moon, ItFotN and Death in Heaven are the only episodes under 8/10.
>>69060733
>a proper, takes-no-shit Doctor.
Reminder that this mindset where the platonic ideal of the Doctor is a curmudgeonly, callous, dry wanker is completely counter to all 12 versions of the Doctor. It works for Capaldi because it is tempered by joy and passion. The fans who lament this fact and want the Doctor to just be 'cunty smart bloke' need to fark off to some other show.
The Davros story was shit. Mainly because there wasn't really a story.
It was almost as if Moffat just decided to bring Davros back for the sake of it. Utter shite.
Gareth Robert's should've been asked to write it as he evidently knows more about classic Doctor Who than Moffat.
>>69060826
In your opinion.
I think they are awful rubbish and blatant emotional manipulation.
Davros dying could be a great moment but it was obviously a trick.
Then they were "both lying" so it was all fake anyway.
And, no, I don't accept anything the mass murdering psychopath said was "genuinely heartfelt" at any stage.
>>69060917
Reminder that you are a fucking idiotic cunt.
>>69060829
>The misused Missy
That was best use of the Master in ages. We actually got to see her act villainous and there wasn't some retarded scheme as usual.
>wasted the Daleks
It was a Davros story.
>Unless you like the Doctor ripping Davros out of his chair
Hi Melanon.
> playing guitar from an anachronistic armoured assault vehicle.
There was literally nothing wrong with that scene.
>>69060901
This
>>69060948
haha fuck off gareth
>>69060987
Back at ya, friendo!
>>69060992
>literally nothing wrong with that [tank] scene
aweful lot of people of color in that crowd, don't ya think?
>tfw girlyletters blocked us on sight from looking at the hashtag feed
>we didn't even get to shitpost at her
>>69060733
>muh Malcom tucker without swear swords
Yeah, 12's personality was a nice change of pace in S8 but you're crazy if you think he wasn't going to develop or have lighter moments. He's playing the fucking doctor.
>>69061090
twiter "blocking" is rather odd. if you tweet someone who's blocked you, they can still see your tweets you send them, you just cant see theirs
>>69061090
Reminder girlyletters is the biggest actual nutcase in DW history
>>69061140
wikiwho have a piece on girlyletters?
I've ignored her as a trope.
>>69061072
/pol/ pls
>>69060959
I think there was absolutely an element of truth to Davros' words, but he was only pulling this shit out to ruse the doctor. Davros respects the doctor, in a way
>>69061131
so i can still fuck with gareth roberts, philip morris and mark catpiss? awesome, thanks anon,
13 DAYS LEFT
GET HYPE
>>69061251
Yep, they'll see your tweets. It's just if you block them they can't see yours
>>69061289
for what?
>>69060948
>>69061072
That's Gareth!
PHUCKING PHUNNY.
FNA's Tumblr: http://tennants-console-room.tumblr.com/
>>69061372
>Important INFO:
>-Ten is and always will be the doctor
>>69061364
>produced and ate 2500 ham sandwiches
>>69057854
Two questions.
1. Why is it shallow to watch a show for the leading actor's looks rather than the plot?
2. Why should people be expected to think about a TV show's plots in order to make sense of them?
>>69061473
1. Only reason I put up with pancakes is because of the primal urge to breed.
2. You're right. Humans are idiots.
>>69061473
Is this b8?
>>69061541
No.
>>69061541
I believe so.
>>69061541
>>69061596
>>69061602
consensus appears to be "maybe"
>>69060291
"...The meteorite is really a wrecked spaceship buried under the [Thames] estuary. The Doctor believes it is a Pescaton ship. The Pescatons are carcharhinidae, or deep water sharks. The experts scoff at this, until one comes out of the Thames and makes its way to London Zoo in search of salt water. The Doctor confronts it in the Aquarium, where it dies and disintegrates. That night, more meteorites land in the Thames..."
what's not to love?
>>69061507
1. Explain.
2. No, people with better things to do than puzzle out their entertainment are wise.
That's Gareth!
deepart dump
you get a rare patrick if you can guess any of the styles
>>69061893
>>69061893
>>69061925
>>69061893
>>69061925
>>69061957
>>69061840
>Explain.
fuck off.
>people have better to do than contemplate art
fuck off.
>>69061893
Fuck off with this worthless shite.
This is not your Twitter, Facebook or blog.
You are as bad as girlyletters, if not worse, because you're a smug cunt, too.
>>69061957the cake is a lie
>>69061596
I still think it's b8 but i'll answer you.
>1. Why is it shallow to watch a show for the leading actor's looks rather than the plot?
How is that not shallow? I mean if you enjoy X as an actor and enjoy seeing them in different roles that's one thing. I know a few people who were Capaldi fans and only really watched DW because of him. But if you're only watching because you find them attractive that's pretty ridiculous.
>2. Why should people be expected to think about a TV show's plots in order to make sense of them?
What's wrong with the show requiring you to actually pay attention?
>>69062030
>>69062038
kek yes, have pic related
>>69062030
im posting actual content, what are you doing
>>69061372
>tennants-console-room
gross
>>69061473
Because by choosing aesthetics alone you discount writing, production and talent. All of which have more gravity for quality i'd guess?
I don't really understand the second question, to understand and make sense of something it requires thought at some level.
WHAT TIME IS IT?
>>69062257
TIME PHOR YOU TO PHUCK OPH !!!!
>>69062173
You are just posting shite. Spam. Verbal diarrhea. Filling up silence with your over inflated ego.
Self aggrandizement.
You're a living spambot. A parasite. Not a contributor.
Anyone can find this 'art'. You are not providing a service. You are just like girlyletters.
FNA, you want to be careful with all that Last Airbender shit, its a gateway drug to weebshitthen again so is 4chan. why am i here?
>>69062301
>Anyone can find this 'art'
It's literally OC fagoli
>>69062257
It's time cats12 hanged himself
>>69062314
It's literally fucking shit.
>>69062358
you go first anon and then ill think about it
>>69062057
Why is it ridiculous?
What's wrong is that no television programme has the right to expect more attention than it earns by being interesting. It isn't people's duty to be interested in Doctor Who, it's Doctor Who's raison d'etre to be interesting to them.
>>69062453
sorry, meant for >>69062324
but fuck you too
I've been over at reddit/r/gallifrey, and I have to report that they're nice, professional, and seldom off-topic.
I highly recommend dipping your toe in their nice, clean cut community.
>>69062514
PHUCK
OPHERINO
>>69062478
>Why is it ridiculous?
You can watch something to masturbate to if you wish.
It does not make you a fan of that show and certainly doesn't make any opinions on that show worth hearing.
You have even said the content of that show is not important.
So, masturbate all you like. That's fine. You are not a fan of whatever show it is, though.
>>69062514
PISS OPH.
>>69061470
I giggled
>>69062478
>thinks Doctor Who owes him something
>is not a British subject
Why was he erased again?
https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/727527183921627136
>>69062179
But what if the only quality you're interested in is aesthetics?
Agreed, but it requires the right amount of thought. Not too little, or too much. I think people who drop overcomplicated television are applying the right amount of thought. It isn't opera or a modernist novel - television is entertainment. Art, maybe, but always an art of entertainment.
>>69062514
I only like the Faction Paradox faggots over there, and I'm pretty sure they're /who/res anywayif any of you read this: hi
>>69062776
>television is entertainment. Art, maybe, but always an art of entertainment.
What are news broadcasts, then?
>>69062478
But people don't give the show a chance to be interesting. They shitpost in live threads or leave the show in the backround while doing something else instead of actually watching and then complaining about how the episode didn't make any sense but if they'd had actually watched it they'd probably understood what happened. If you actually watched the episode and didn't like it, that's fair. But if you barely pay attention to it your opinion are irrelevant.
>>69062776
>It isn't opera or a modernist novel - television is entertainment. Art, maybe, but always an art of entertainment.
who are you to decide the "purpose" of TV?
>>69062776
Found Lucifer.
>>69062313
Its a good show actually, I recommend you watch it If you haven't and trust me I'm not interested in weebshit.
>>69062591
I'm talking about the 'shallow young girls' who it's been suggested were watching it for Tennant's and Smith's looks. I doubt they were masturbating to it, assuming they were watching it with their family or friends.
Where did I say that the content isn't important?
No, of course they're not fans. That's my point.
>>69062776
>But what if the only quality you're interested in is aesthetics?
It probably means that you are a massively pretentious, contrarian cunt.
I think that answers the question fully and unambiguously.
>>69062951
>I'm not interested in weebshit.
>>69062899
Sure, there are news and weather reports, but you know what I meant. Also, news is at this point partially entertainment, but that's another discussion.
>>69062951
no, your interests are much more refined
>>69062931
It's not me who decides it, its the millions, of whom I'm one, whose indifference gets things cancelled. A mainstream channel like BBC1 has a lower limit in terms of acceptable viewing figures many times larger than the capacity of the largest arts venue.
>>69063014
I'm afraid I predicted your shifting goal post, friend.
>>69063014
>you know what I meant
Yeah, you mean to be one of the mindless millions forcing TV to become dumber and duller, instead of striving for something greater, simply because it makes more money and fits your already dismall view of humanity.
That's you.
>>69062984
So those 'shallow young girls' aren't shallow, but pretentious? Or are they both? How?
>>69063065
Thinking the criterion of humanity's value is how hard they concentrate on an entertainment programme is an incredibly dismal view of humanity.
>>69063051
Try engaging seriously with the discussion, you may have more fun.
>>69063134
I'm not on trial here, friendo.
>>69063159
Try producing a genuine argument that can't be so easily predicted and manipulated, you may be taken more seriously
New question.
Why do you think a complicated plot is 'something greater' than a simple one?
>>69063072
Since when is "watching a hot boy and fantasizing" considered as "watching for the aesthetics"?
Seriously, you can fuck off with that one. Your troll powers are fading, Pedantor.
I know you going to say "the appreciation of beauty" but girls and boys jizzing themselves over their lust object is not that and you know it.
>>69063028
Glad you can still find the time to comb though every single post cats.
>>69063028
Friendly "May I spank that TARDIS miss?" Anon
>>69063038
So what if Doctor Who doesn't appeal to a huge audience? I mean it's bad for the BBC but I'd rather have the show continue being based for a couple more years and die out than have it turned into soulless soap operatic trash with a real-life Jazz Hands and 24 Gatiss-tier episodes a year.
>>69063209
I don't
Execution is key. A simple plot executed well is miles better than a complicated plot executed horribly
>>69063191
The sheer humourless anger of your response is quite sad. There's something interesting here that you'd rather not get at, taking refuge in the 'normies are stupid' meme.
>>69063233
>thinking I'm cats
I'm australian so you're close, but no dice
>>69063233
idk why you think thats me but its clear that you like big butts and you cannot lie.
>>69063159
Your post means nothing. What do you think you achieved saying that? If anything you are annoyed that your shifting goal post was spotted and out are pissed off.
You are the same trolling, autistic wanker from yesterday, aren't you?
I don't know where I am
SILENCE WILL RISE
>>69063271
close enough
>>69063280
well you do have a lot of the screeshots and I ever said I didn't
>>69063159
Moving the goal posts again and not addressing the point.
>>69063350
frankly I'm surprised you spend enough time with your hand off your dick to post here
>>69063330
Did you make this?
Now cats12 talking shite again over the topic
What a cunt he is.
>>69063229
I was following the lead of Cloister's comment in >>69062179 - 'Because by choosing aesthetics alone you discount writing, production and talent.' This was in response to my question '1. Why is it shallow to watch a show for the leading actor's looks rather than the plot?'
Why isn't lust on the spectrum of legitimate 'appreciation of beauty'? Eroticism has been an acceptable element in work and audience response for years in high culture.
>>69063350
i only have this one
>>69063368
like a year and a half ago
>>69062057
Google 'Capaldi tumblr'. There are many women who seem to like the current leading actor's looks.
Personally, I prefer a TV drama show that requires some attention to follow the plots.
>>69063399
You've been rumbled, Ruprecht. Go and waste your own life, not ours.
>>69063403
Amazing
>>69063408
besides, do people really watch TV anymore?
I'm so busy with music and movies that I can't really be bothered.
>>69063401
>literally browsing a subreddit named 'boobies'
>literally browsing reddit in the first place
>>69063408
PS. I'm keeping this name. Good way to get an idea of what /who/ likes.
>>69063458
You are SO busy you have time to post that SHIT on 4chan?
Fuck off.
>>69063512
don't tell me how to spend my day off, compadre.
>>69063495
I don't get why you would even comment on porn at all to be honest, besides looking for the source. I mean, /who/ gives him enough shit for it as is, imagine if his friends or family saw.
>>69063563
Don't waste our time with obvious trolling comments, cuntpadre.
>>69062776
If aesthetics is really your thing, by all means watch what you enjoy. One should be prepared, however to defend themselves or prepare an argument as to why they aren't shallow.
>>69063399
>Why isn't lust on the spectrum of legitimate 'appreciation of beauty'? Eroticism has been an acceptable element in work and audience response for years in high culture.
Who says it's not? It's just tiptoed around and justified with flowery words id est eroticism. Lust isn't always bound to the aesthetic either. I've had the notion to fuck girls i've not really been physically attracted to. There's power dynamics among other things in play. Lust is next to fear as being one of the more basic and entrenched instincts and just as hard to wrap your head around.
>>69060291
Shit writing, really good acting and sound effects.
>>69063458
Viewers binge watch their favorite TV shows now. With competition from streaming sites etc, UK BARB ratings are becoming increasingly obsolete. The BBC prefers to focus now on i-player viewings, of which Doctor Who remains in the top 3.
>>69063726
Spot on.
>>69063726
>Viewers binge watch their favorite TV shows now.
What percentage of people and where can the full data on this be found?
>>69063234
Fine, but I'm really more interested in why people think that the girls who watched for their leads' looks, and casual viewers, were somehow watching the show wrongly - remember, it exists for them, not fans - than the question of the point at which making the show becomes unsustainable. So far, nobody has put forward a real reason for this disdain.
>>69063817
>remember, it exists for them, not fans
Are you suggesting that the show is written in mind of the people who watch purely for eye candy hot men?
>>69063505
hey dude, want a trip?
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reply to me with a disposable email address and ill send you the code
>>69063817
>So far, nobody has put forward a real reason for this disdain.
Yes they have. You have ignored it, which is your MO.
Then, when you are forced to address your rubbish, you change the parameters of the argument.
This is all textbook trolling behaviour.
>>69063898
CATS NO
DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM
>>69063634
The argument has yet to be made for why watching for looks is shallow when you're not pretending that's a metric of any other virtue, which seems to be the usual reason people call reactions to beauty 'shallow'. I don't think these young girls need to defend themselves against people who are watching for plot - I think that idea is extraordinarily presumptious.
>>69063229 said it wasn't, that's what I was responding to.
SOMETHING 'BOUT SOMETHING 'BOUT YOU
MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A DANGEROUS DALEK
>>69063817
It's a TV show. Not porn.
Go google pics of Tennant if you want to masturbate.
>>69063970
>I don't think these young girls need to defend themselves against people who are watching for plot - I think that idea is extraordinarily presumptious.
They don't. However, they are being shallow.
>>69063860
No, I didn't say that.
>>69063860
Assuming you are not the same guy arguing with himself, which does happen here, you are genuinely wasting your time with that troll.
His MO is starting an open ended argument during which he will never concede he is talking crap and he will also alter the argument regularly so it never ends.
But its your life, should you wish to continue. Good luck.
>>69060901
and The Caretaker
>>69064099
caretaker was shit
>>69064003
Things aren't so polarised.
>>69063917
Your idea of a response was 'what about the news kek', you're not participating in this.
>>69064170
What do you mean?
BILL WILL DESTROY ANY NEW WHO COMPANION SHE'S GONNA BE GOAT
>>69063810
My cousin works for the BBC. Will ask him if there are official stats available online. Doctor Who is actually one of the top streamed shows in numerous countries.
There was a huge bidding war between various streaming companies, which Amazon won.
Plus, the BBC is struggling a bit financially because of political shenanigans, but that's another debate that can be discussed on /pol/.
>>69063970
I think you're putting too much stock into what other people think young girls think. It's a bonus if they tune in sure, but it's not the target audience, just a small segment therof. They aren't the ones paying the tv liscences, they're probably not even the ones buying the merchandise. If these hypothetical girls are hypothetically being called shallow for not being able to look past the looks of the actors playing the parts, then I'm sorry I'd and nearly anyone else would agree a hypothetical spade, should be still referred to as a spade.
They don't have to defend themselves of course but if they can't verbalise and validate their own opinion why should I accept or entertain it?
>>69064229
When you nod your head yes, but you wanna say no
>>69064252
This.
Remember when everyone thought Smith would be shit and he was GOAT?
Or when everyone thought Capaldi would be GOAT and he was shit?
Bill will be awesome. Guarantee it.
Reading Sandifer's blog on The Three Doctors and dear me is it terrible. Has there ever been a canon-marathoning blog project that *didn't* end up being about the writer's entirely unrelated hobby-horses?
>>69064166
exactly, which is why its under 8/10. Waaaay under infact
>>69064291
>everyone thought Capaldi would be GOAT and he was shit?
i love you cloister. tell belle I said hello.
>>69064350
lol, its not b8. he's terrible. he was good in series 8 but S9 they ruined him with the hoodies and wibbly wobbly memey wemey wacky guitar shite.
>>69064285
Not sure what that's supposed to mean.
>>69064314
I found it much better on reread.
>>69064350
Fuck off b8er Capaldi is GOAT
>>69064350
He was pretty shit in Series 8 because they wanted him to be the polar opposite to 11, desu. It gets better by Mummy on the Orient Express and from then on he's GOAT. Except the "muh Clala" bit in The Magician's Apprentice after she's killed, he was overdoing it and he was wooden.
>>69064291
>and he was shit?
>>69064391
Trying too hard. The hoodie is GOAT.
>/who/ can actually be baited this easily
Shit, guys. This is embarrassing.
>>69064472
You're right we should stop replying to MelAnon. He's just trolling now.
>>69064272
No, I think fans are putting too much stock in what they think of young girls. Why should they look past their looks? Bearing in mind that their looks, their physical bodies, are all we can see, what are they supposed to be looking at beyond them? Ability? We've already established for the sake of argument that they aren't interested in ability.
>>69064440
Yeah. KTM is massively out of character, the Doctor's personality doesn't change THAT much between regeneration.
>any opinion different to mine must be b8
Oh, do PHUCK OFF. I don't like Capaldi as the Doctor - PLAIN AND PHUCKING SIMPLE.
>>69064567
go to bed ian
>>69064350
Sorry replied to wrong post.
Another aspect of this is that Capaldi is in some people's opinion a worse actor than Matt Smith. He looks like he wouldn't be - he's older, and we equate age with chops. But maybe that's a shallow equation?
>>69064657
Capaldi's a good Doctor but he's not an amazing actor. The scene where Clara 'dies' in TMA was phucking embarassing.
Also the Zygon speech was overacted and cringe, but most of that was the piss poor writing of the left-wing propagandist Peter Harness I imagine.
>>69064550
Nobody cares anymore. You can quit trolling now.
>>69064425
I can't imagine wanting to reread this.
>>69064208
You have added in a kek. That was not in that post. Nor was that the tone of it, it was a valid counterpoint.
You are simply a troll.
>>69064567
Then fuck off and go away from /who/. Come back when Capaldi regenerates into Hayley Atwell.
>>69064798
Doctor Who isn't just Capaldi you know. You loathsome cunt.
HOW PHUCKING DARE YOU!!! Phuck off and die.
>>69064776
Are you unfamiliar with the mythology?
>>69064719
wrong
>>69064719
Hi Gareth!!
Hayley Atwell as the Doctor when??
>>69064719
>left-wing propagandist Peter Harness
>implying the zygon two-parter wasn't an anti-gay screed
>>69064827
Boo hoo. Like I phucking care about your infantile opinions.
>>69064291
I had my doubts about smith from that initial photo shoot with the dark clothing and tardis, but he turned out to be pretty amazing. Capaldi has been outstanding for what he's been given.
>>69064314
I have to pop an aderall just to get through most of sandyfurs stuff.
>>69064390
I love you too Anon, and she's waving! squint really hard.
>>69064550
Sorry I'm bored now. You've overestimated that i care what little girls think at all. I can't into this drudgery.
>>69064836
No, which is part of why it's so cringe-inducing.
>>69064942
Well there you go, quit being such a pleb and go read some William Blake.
>>69064935
This isn't about what they think, this is about why fans think they have a right to an opinion on normal people's normal reasons for watching. There's a middlebrow assumption that erotics are less important than the things which are alleged to give 'gravity', and what I'm driving at is that this doesn't resemble how people involved in high culture (in the way fans delude themselves they are) actually think. So the fans are neither populists, nor connoisseurs. What are they good for? Absolutely nothing.
I'm sorry but this was shit acting. He's been absolutely GOAT the rest of the time but this was just wooden.
>>69064988
I said no, I'm not unfamiliar with the mythology.
>>69065139
Oh, sorry. Well I still found it pretty neat. I like seeing people draw connections between different stories.
> Patrick Troughton oozes like mercury around alchemic diagrams, while Roger Delgado leers maniacally. In Totters Lane, William Hartnell bundles Susan through the doors of the TARDIS. Vicki and Jo skip arm in arm down the streets of Skaro looking at shopwindow dummies while fireworks mixed up by Liz Shaw and Ian Chesterton explode across the sky where Steven Taylor draws a Blue Peter Badge in contrails from the Planet Mondas. Jon Pertwee captains the HMS Bessie with Ben Jackson and reminisce about Polly, who right this moment is slipping through the UNIT tearoom planting retcon as part of her new gig with Torchwood. Staying carefully on the other side of the room for fear of offending her ex-husband, Sara Kingdom chats with a familiar looking Brigadier, while Barbara cradles Katarina sapphically. Victoria has odd dreams of Sergeant Benton chasing her through the London Underground, while Mike Yates and Jamie McCrimmon make like Izlyr and Ssorg. And in the sky the Wheel in Space spins like a circle of destiny, as Zoe Heriot calculates the precise arcs of history.
Ho boy.
Doctor Who considering US-style "writers room" under Chris Chibnall
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-05-03/doctor-who-considering-us-style-writers-room-under-chris-chibnall
>>69065263
That paragraph is great though.
>>69065095
I don't think wooden is the right word. It was overplayed a bit. I think every doctor has one scene that's just a bit lame. Like Matt hitting the Dalek in Victory.
>>69065241
I prefer writing that deals with works in their particularity.
>>69065323
chibnall really is gonna kill who isn't he
>>69065323
This is good news. Showrunner is subjectively not the best system for Doctor Who with it's, not entirely true, legendary 'infinite format'.
>>69065348
It's the kind of thing that people who can't read literature think constitutes great writing. Sorry, but it's bilge.
>>69065323
This is it guys. Doctor Who will die in 2018.
>>69065462
Doesn't change shit, they say Chibnall is entitled to write his own episodes so he'll still be showrunning and planning the series.
>>69060744
That explains a lot.
They better not get any American writers in.
>>69065413
No, this is the opposite thing.
>>69065323
So that means we could have a Gatiss x Tregenna x Harness episode?
Oh boy.
>>69065323
So it's going to be written more like the Pertwee and McCoy eras, rather than maintaining the Whedon-inspired auteur shit? Great! Much better idea than trying to create a new personality cult around a writer with no discernible personality.
>>69065348
Go away, Phil.
>>69065540
it means that they'd have a team of writers for the series, as opposed to hiring freelancers for each episode. It would basically mean the series would follow a consistent tone.
>>69065323
Don't they have that already though? Everyone meets to discuss how the series is going to go...
>>69065489
You're bilge.
>>69064256
Explains a lot. Re-watched Utopia etc a few days ago. In comparison to then, the budget cuts for special effects in series 8 and 9 are blatantly obvious. RIP BBC?
>>69065462
Agreed.
>>69065555
>So it's going to be written more like the Pertwee and McCoy eras,
How did you get that at all from that article?
>>69064314
More like Phil Sandy Vagina.
>>69065502
How is it saving the show? Scripts are gonna be messy because each one will be written by different people teaming up, meaning there will be inconsistencies for character development within the same episode because Tregenna will have written the 15 first minutes, then Gatiss the next 15 and Harness the final 15.
>>69065555
EXACTLY
This guy gets it.
>>69065587
Your post is still better than that paragraph.
>>69065555
>Whedon-inspired auteur shit
That's how we got Heaven Sent. With this plan, you'll never have one again.
>>69065642
Maybe that's for the best.
>>69065677
No.
>>69065607
You are a fucking moron and your trolling is transparent and child-like.
>>69065588
Are you saying the special effects in Utopia look better than the effects now?
>>69065323
Really like this idea. Will allow the series to have a much clearer focus and be a hell of a lot more consistent
>>69065607
They'll make sure nothing like that occurs. Some of the best, most character-focused movies ever made were written that way.
>>69065642
Good, I don't like Heaven Sent.
>>69065694
yeah, everyone will know the arc and can discuss.
guys what is this
>>69065681
If every episode is a Heaven Sent, then it loses its majesty.
>>69065745
Doesn't mean there should never be any more.
>>69063209
Hmm. As the other anon said, execution is key. But a very complex plot executed perfectly would get more kudos than a simple one executed just as well, i think.
Which episode was it in which 11 kept throwing his sonic from hands to hands rapidly?
>>69065743
it's you shiposting because you can't engage with the current topic
>>69065740
but don't they already do that?
>>69065794
m8 I just got in I don't know what the fuck you're all arguing about now
>>69065323
I don't know, could be a good thing. More eyes or contributors to a script? Do you think the "moon is an egg" would have survived a writing room? Would it not vaccinate against the pain of another sleep no more? Surely someone in the room would say, this is silly, even for doctor who.
>>69065787
Are you bored, kid? Would you like to go for your nap, now?
>>69065489
Melanon, just get a trip. I normally wouldn't recommend this but there's no point being anon when you're so easy to recognize.
>>69065743
the tardis set with the lights out
>>69065743
a picture of the tardis console?
>>69065685
Yes. Re-watch series 3 & 4. Then re-watch series 8 & 9. The budget cuts ARE obvious.
By the way, my favorite NuWho series are 4 & 9.
>>69065323
could make for better scripts/ideas/anything else they decide to do with the upcoming arcs
>>69065822
No I just want to know. It was a scene where he kept throwing his screwdriver from hand to hand. Please.
>>69065799
I'm not sure if Moffat does it differently but RTD gave each writer a shopping list of what he wanted from each episode. Individual writers wouldn't meet.
>>69065811
What part of the picture you posted is perplexing you?
>>69061473
>1. Why is it shallow to watch a show for the leading actor's looks rather than the plot?
That's not true though.
I LOVED to watch Matt Smith, and got me retardedly excited to watch every new episode.
The plots were still good, but Matt Smith added more hype to every episode, rather than to look at a very unattractive very old man.
Matt Smith also had an amazing energy, which all other of the new doctors had, but Capaldi completely lacks, it just sounds bad whenever he talks and tries to be "energetic" when he comes up with a new scheme.
Also, it's creepy, to have a pretty and young Clara, with a man 50 years older than her.
>>69065886
How old do you think Jenna Coleman is? She's not 7 years old.
>>69065845
is it because 8 and 9 are using mainly practical effects now
>>69065884
>>69065833
>>69065832
you mean apart from the giant fucking dome on top?I'd like to make myself believe that S10's TARDIS console will have that same thing 8's big planetarium-like galaxy scanner had
>>69062776
>But what if the only quality you're interested in is aesthetics?
Then why are you not watching model shows, or maybe even some porn?
>>69065823
If I'm so easy to recognise, what's the point of a trip?
>>69065845
I have rewatched them. Effects wise it looks much worse than the show does now..
>>69065950
So I can filter you and not have to look at the mental masturbation that is most of your posts.
>>69065909
I guess mid 20's, or maybe close to her 30's?
She plays a mid 20's or early 20's character though.
>>69065918
>galaxies can be seen moving as the TARDIS dematerializes
How fucking GOAT would that be?
>>69065918
>you mean apart from the giant fucking dome on top?
that's been there for years, now.
this picture probably just has natural daylight coming through it which it doesn't when filming
>>69065787
Please, anyone?
>>69065886
I agree, it's not true, this is why I was asking the anon for his reasoning.
>>69065736
You kidding? It's the best episode of Who I've ever seen. And I'm a Blink fan.
>>69065950
oh jesus it's actually him I thought you left ages ago
>>69065999
really? shit I didn't know that
>>69066020
There is a problem - probably no-one else really remembers shite like that or thinks about it.
>>69065886
Seems like you liked Matt Smith's acting more than his looks.
>>69065323
On one hand it is a good idea. On another hand Doctor Who was pulpy anthology, and I don't want it to go further into realm of serialized consistency.
>>69066021
That anon didn't say it was purely for aesthetics though?
When Matt Smith was changed out for a bad looking old man, the will to continue to watch probably died with quite many.
Rather than something that excites me to watch, especially during Matt Smith, is now somewhat mundane and I mainly watch because I liked Doctor Who, I'm more or less just waiting for this doctor to die so we can get a new one.
>>69065950
So we can filter you and your pseudo-intellectual rants about Dr Who
>>69066063
I mean, I vaguely remember than gesture, but couldn't begin to say what episode it's from. Sorry anon.
>>69065918
the dome's always been there
>>69066087
It was both, he was very attractive, which made him pleasant to watch, and his acting was great.
>>69066063
You're telling me ill have to rewatch Matt's era?
>tfw it's in Time of the Doctor
>>69066103
>a bad looking old man
fuck you Capaldi looks great you ageist twat
>>69065943
First of all, again with the porn? Why do people associate any and all libidinous response with flicking or whacking off? Control yourself, anon.
Secondly, those shows/productions don't feature these specific guys playing this character. Let's be clear, if you're watching Doctor Who from 2005, you've assented to the idea that the Doctor can be sexy.
>>69066089
You are polarizing it too much.
Writer's room in DW's case will keep the ARC consistent and should make it better, as everyone can seed the arc properly rather than a HORRIBLE scene added at the last minute.
>>69066143
So you can't enjoy an actor if you don't find them attractive?
>this was 7 years ago
Where did time go?
>>69065971
Yeah, I know, not happening.
Looked for a 9 image for this but couldn't find one smug enough.
>>69066208
däs gay
>>69066163
This. He's obviously an older guy, but has an interesting face and seems to keep pretty fit. I never got the "old actors won't be popular" thing anyway, plenty of people watch movies with Ian McKellen or whoever.
>>69066149
I want to say there's a scene like that in the ganger two parter or the angels one, but i have 0 evidence to back this up and am possibly completely wrong. I'm sure he's wearing the tweed, or at least the red shirt/braces
>>69066103
>I only watch NuWho for boys to finger myself over
Get a Dalek Dildo
>>69066181
People like James Deen are attractive, but unfortunately short.
Porn tend to have fit men, basically, some of them also have nice faces.
If all you care about is how attractive somebody is, then you should be watching where you're more likely to see attractive people. Though, I guess porn doesn't have that many attractive men, or at least you don't really see them.
>>69066181
>implying ALL THIRTEEN aren't sexy
Philistine
Writer's room also potentially gets around this "experienced TV writers only" shite
An inexperienced writer can sit in and get lots of help and encouragement from his/her peers who are all trying to make a great series of DW.
>>69066103
The anon I was replying to said
> Having an old man as the doctor drives away shallow young girls.
- so I asked why it would be shallow.
After Capaldi I think it'll probably be a woman who takes over.
>>69066217
Why not? Seriously, being a part of your public masturbation makes me feel icky. If you have any consideration at all for the feelings of others or just don't want to bother engaging with people who have extreme contempt for you then please get a trip.
>>69066254
Thanks Cloister I have suspicion that it's in the Angels two parter and that he was wearing the tweed but I can't check right now. Thanks for confirming my thoughts.
>>69065323
This doesn't read like a confirmation of anything, but if real, it might be the first promising news about the Chibnall era.
The 'showrunner' model only ever worked for NuWho because at the top, you had an absolute machine of a writer pumping out scripts and rewrites at a high rate and somehow not producing 100% trainwrecks. Like or dislike RTD/Moffat, that is what they did (along with the aid of at least one co-executive producer to help run things). I don't trust Chibnall to deliver at the same capacity. In a show like Doctor Who where every 45-minute episode has to be its own story and totally different, working at that rate in the first place is ever so slightly superhuman.
Losing Moffat without a replacement on his level of output should ABSOLUTELY require a rethink of how the writing on the show works. I've thought this for ages.
Of course I don't want to lose the unique flair of individual writers' contributions, and the wildly varied feel it gives to the series. But in past series, the head writer has had to handle at least 5 of the episode slots per year. Do you trust Chibbers with that? Imagine if that weight could be distributed, while leaving the other slots for individual writers as before?
>>69066041
When did you think I left? I probably left and came back.
>>69066199
To be honest, I don't have much faith in arcs. If they manage to make character development work, that'd be great. But plot/mystery arcs never quite worked because of how spread out Doctor Who plots and settings are. There's not much that can get into all the parts.
>>69066208
Really weird that you'd interpret both/and as either/or.
>>69066208
The new doctor who had built up that energy a bit, where you had an attractive doctor, or at least mildly attractive.
Honestly, it's not only their appearances, they also projected this really active and lovable energy.
Then now we got a boring old man, that maybe doesn't look that bad for his age (what is he? 70-something?).
How happy would you be if like Jessica Jones was changed for a granny?
>>69066306
>After Capaldi I think it'll probably be a woman who takes over.
No, why?
Are we gonna be stuck with a pre-centurion Rory as companion?
>>69066326
I'm sorry to start off like this but - NO-ONE said it was confirmed.
Nobody.
The word "considering" in the title tells us that, for a start.
>>69066405
he's 57 you prick he's not that old holy shit what is your deal with old people
your grandparents must love you
I'm sorry you aren't able to have a jolly good whack off while you're watching now but if you're looking for that you should probably find yourself an XXX version of Doctor Who
I'm sure they've got it somewhere
>>69066368
Total. Utter. Shite.
>>69066488
*58
>>69065743
Does it not occur to anyone that the top parts being illuminated white like that is something new? The whole thing used to be wood painted that dark silver 'metal' color, that level of brightness is way beyond natural light
>>69066405
>How happy would you be if like Jessica Jones was changed for a granny?
literally no heterosexual man watching JJ would give a fuck how old she is.
In fact, a superpowered older woman could be a more interesting character.
>>69066546
which hopefully reinforces the theory of a galaxy scannerplease Based Pickwoad
>>69066582
Personally I wouldn't want the whole roof to be a green screen, I feel like that will result in some really shitty special effects
>>69066276
Who said the people who watched Smith and Tennant for their looks only care about how attractive somebody is? Maybe they care about plot in other things but watched Who for the sexy Doctors. My point is, I don't hear any real argument for why that sort of response should be called 'shallow', other than habit.
No, big budget television is a very likely place to see attractive people.
>>69066578
people like Aunt May right
>>69066546
I'm sorry but you are talking out of your ass.
any picture could have contrast altered just for a start
>>69066641
that is a shitty 4chan meme
>>69066637
If you only watch something because of how attractive somebody is, you're shallow, because you simply only care about what's on the surface.
It's like, in the definition of the word.
>>69066312
You know as well as I do that these discussions are going more and more interestingly, and having to ignore your trolling is a small price to pay for that. A trip closes down thought because so many people hate trips anyway.
>>69066637
you know where else is a very likely place to see attractive people
bars - particularly nightclubs
maybe you should try one of those - stop repressing your inner self and get out of the closet
I know you're trying to tell us something anon
>>69066468
It just seems to be in the air, with Missy, the gender change regeneration in Hell Bent, all the talk in the media about how women should go for traditionally male roles.
>>69065918
The top is made of fabric.
>>69065607
Thats not how it works Anon...
>>69066643
>contrast altered
The roof was literally the same color paint as all of the walls and the console (and the arching pillars splittling it up), which all appear significantly darker. You can also see the console itself illuminated around its edges, from the bright ambient light. That cannot be achieved with a photohsop filter, especially not on an image as grainy as this >>69065743
The roof has been modified in some way. Whether it's white or chroma green is difficult to tell because of the black and white, but it is definitely brighter
Where did this picture come from?
>>69066698
The image of the surface is all that's actually there. How do you evaluate an actor? Look at what he does with his face, listen to what he does with his voice. There's no rigor to the idea of casting one set of responses as shallow.
>>69066811
found it off Facebook
>>69066821
what relation did the person who posted it have to the show?
>>69066820
>How do you evaluate an actor?
But watching his performance. Not judging if hes attractive or not.
>>69066720
>these discussions are going more and more interestingly, and having to ignore your trolling is a small price to pay for that.
Are you ready for me to blow your mind? Because I was actually one of the people who was having a calm, civil discussion with you yesterday, but it doesn't change the fact that you still act like a cunt and now I'm afraid that yesterday is going to encourage you to keep coming back more often and frankly that can only be a bad thing. So I and others would like a way to filter you.
>A trip closes down thought because so many people hate trips anyway.
That's not true, there are and have always been accepted trips on /who/. Nobody complains about Cloister or Schlemihl. You could still have converstaions with people who want to talk to you while allowing those who don't to filter you. That mean you are imposing your presence upon people who don't want it unnecessarily and that makes you an obnoxious person. Not that that's an unusual thing on 4chan, but what makes you especially insufferable is that you always believe you have the high ground. You are worse than the people who troll you because at least they know they're shitposting.
>>69065999
there's no natural daylight
>>69064314
That blog was about his hobby-horses from the beginning.
>>69065323
I hope this happens. Not just because anything that gives Chibnall a less absolute control over the show than RTD/Moffat had, but also because, if DW is to have season-long arcs, it's much better to have a writer's room to plan everything in detail and know how their episodes fit in the season and what the general tone is supposed to be, rather than to have freelance writers write single episodes and a showrunner in charge of tying everything together.
>>69066641
>>69066680
I LOVE Aunt May, she is in effect Spiderman's Mom!! Phuck off Aunt May haters.
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