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Will there be repercussions?


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Since the finale is also being shit on by normies, do you think people will lose a job over this? Will anything happen or will the show just keep running on the same path and getting millions of views?
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>>67903410
They'll go with a new show runner after season 7. That seems about as long as they last.
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>>67903410
Is the second half of the season that bad? I stopped watching at the horrible mid-season finale
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>>67903410
i actually enjoyed the finale more than most of the episodes this season
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>>67903410
No. Because even though everybody hates it the ratings for the first episode will be crazy high because everybody still wants to know. Then everybody drops it again as they realize the show is shit. So theyll so some more cliffhangers like with glenn this season. And end S7 on another cliffhanger so people turn into the first episode of S8.
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>>67903546
It was "meh" tier with a pretty good finale til they ruined it with their jewing.
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>>67903410
They knew exactly people would fucking hate this. They're not retarded. They just don't care about anything but ratings. And those will be amazing for the beginning of next season.
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>>67903655
Damn I was hoping for it to be better than meh. I felt like they had a good stride with season five.
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>>67903546
It was actually bretty good by TWD standards. They just botched it with the season finale.
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who was hit in end?

i hope its the black girl that isnt the blackest girl

shes worthless
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>>67903410
Nah, people will bitch and moan all summer and then the ratings will be through the roof in the fall. Business as usual.
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>>67903784
Exactly. Put in some midseason cliffhanger like with glenn-death fakeout and that horrible nothing-happening midseason finale. Rinse and Repeat.
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It's a different show now basically, I like it over the boring just surviving stuff.
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>>67903782
Its confirmed Glenn, there was something on tumblr where someone slowed all the screams and shit down where you here Maggie and other people scream Glenn. And then you hear "MAAAG" from glenn. I don't have the link, but you can just save your anxiety
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>>67903906
I do like the man vs man survival theme better than the man vs zomie theme desu
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As long as my bro Aaron is safe I'm good.
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>>67903962
That was confirmed fake or from a previously cut material. Not even the writers know who they will kill yet.
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>>67903995
For the love of god let it not be aaron. But it will be. He might just as well have been wearing the litteral starfleet outfit.
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>>67904030
If it's him everyone will be dissapointed because he's not a major character that people are emotionally invested in.

It's gonna be either Glenn or Daryl.
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hm let's see, this is AMC who

1. fired the guy creating the series
2. butchered the entire budget
3. made it a soap-opera

yet it still gets million of views. The people watching the walking dead has demonstrated over several years that they will eat shit time and time again. I think it's hilarious that one cliffhanger gets this sort of response when you have things like the entire season 2 and 3.
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>>67904030
Also please someone photoshop this.
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>>67903546
No, it was actually really good until the last 10 seconds of the finale
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>>67904087
Do you honestly believe they care? For some reason they are more scared of losing 1 liked character than they are of pissing the whole fanbase off. They will kill the redshirt and put in some new cliffhangers next season. Like they do all the time.
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To be honest I liked the finale still.

But the decision to end it on the cliffhanger was fucking dumb

The build up, the tension and Negan were great, but it wouldnt be TWD without some idiotic decision
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>>67903546
Gimple gyped the fandom and botched the finale with a "Guess who dies" cliffhanger, completely missing the point of the Lucille scene.

Come season eight a new showrunner'll be announce.
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>Will there be repercussions?

Show has been shit since Shane died. People haven't stopped watching then why would they now?
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No shits will be given. What can they do, admit they were wrong and only make themselves look worse? its not like they will move up season 7.

They basically said the fans are spoiled and need instant gratification. so fuck it, people still have FTWD to keep them occupied until then.
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>>67904164
>Implying that cliffhanger wasn't a direct order from the AMC bosses to achieve maximum ratings.
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>>67904172
>since shane died

but he was a shit character that should've died even sooner
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>>67904216
Kek i remember that one. To be fair that one crooked semi-character cop dies as well.
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Z Nation is better.
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>>67904090
I like how people are flipping out over a season ending cliffhanger like it's never been done before. The anger will dissipate and get replaced by speculation and people pouring over leaks. The ratings will soar for the opener then get replaced by outrage or disappointment over who gets killed. Then on to the next thing.
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>>67903684
>They knew exactly people would fucking hate
This.
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What the actual fuck is wrong with people here? I watched the finale and was not once upset with how it ended.... I dont need to know who he fucking killed because guess what guys? I WILL FIND OUT THE NEXT EPISODE.

Get out of the house you fucking nerds.
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>>67904127
So its worth watching again? Are there any episodes as good as the first few season 5 episode?
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>>67904274
cliffhangers are fine TWD has even done good cliffhangers like in Terminus.

But they teased Negan all season. The preview for the finale shows the bat being pointed at someone. To me, those things together mean the negan scene is happening.

The finale told no story. Thats not a cliffhanger, thats an episode without an ending.

>inb4 it showed the extent of Negans gang and Rick losing control

They took an hour to show Negans group was really good at road blocks, and we all knew Rick was underestimating the Saviors
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>>67904221
When did I saw otherwise? I marked that as the descent into shit. Not because of.
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>>67903962
Confirmed fake.

In the scripts it weren't reveal who Negan Lucilled. Actors are in the dark with the fandom. And they weren't there when JDM gave his long monologue he filmed the Lucille scene solo according to Nicotero. They're going to refilm it with the actors present in June or something
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>>67904296

>You faggots are so entitled, I for one can't wait to eat shit
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>>67903962
the writers don't even know yet

i bet theyre watching every bit of buzz about it to determine which death would hurt ratings the least overall
show is in it's death throes, IMO
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>>67904397
Yeah, the midseason premiere was one of the best episodes of the whole show so far.

Then most of the episodes building up to Negan were great. Intense and very little filler. Shame they couldn't actually give a proper payoff because Gimple is literally retarded.
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>>67903684
>They just don't care about anything but ratings. And those will be amazing for the beginning of next season.

Indeed, tv commercial ad rates are set during the autumn and spring "sweeps periods", so all the networks put their most hyped stuff on at that time, thus ending this season on a cliff hanger to guarantee millions of viewers will tune in next season to pump up those numbers.
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>>67904555
isn't it the highest rates show on?
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>>67904213
Gimple have said he knew what he wanted season seven premiere to look like for a while that's he made the season finale the way it is.

While AMC may have had a hand in that decision for the cliffhanger, I doubt they knew either Gimple would have pulled that shit since everyone involved cast and crew were kept in the dark. New showrunner will be announced by season eight.
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>>67904559
Alright might try and watch it then. Thanks anons
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The actors know who died. Andrew Lincoln said they knew and were so devastated by it they made a pact not to speak of it.

>confirmed Daryl or Glenn
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>>67904623
I think it's definitely also more watchable if you can binge it. Season was pretty okay desu. Have seen much worse.
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>>67904296
>next episode
>next season you mean
>next year

Have fun waiting
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>>67904652
>people are incapable of lying
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>>67904652
>believing the scripted lines they give the cast to generate hype
Its aaron.
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>>67904675
>I think it's definitely also more watchable if you can binge it
This. Binged the last five eps of this season because I just lost interest but then gave it a go again, made the filler (Maggie and Carol with the three bitches for an entire episode) less annoying.
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>>67904652
plus there is no way it wont get spoiled by an on set pic or script leak before the start of nest season.

>>67904694
same could be said about the showrunner. he might have more reason to lie since people are currently pissed at him
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>>67904090
> hm let's see, this is AMC who
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> 1. fired the guy creating the series

Kirkman created it, Darabont just adapted it into a tv show and was going to go full-retard with it, with thinking and talking zombies who build zombie communities and have zombie relationships.

Luckily, Kirkman’s agent had insured that his client would still have some control over the tv series (unlike GRRM) and he got Darabont (correctly) shit-canned.

The Walking Dead would have been canceled after one season due to lack of viewers, if Darabont had had his way.
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>>67904677

Thats the thing... I am not waiting for shit cause I am not a basement dwelling nerd
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>>67904765
I feel nothing but disgust for people like you. I can't imagine anyone watching season 2 and 3 after 1 and think "yep, glad that first guy got shitcanned"

you got the series you deserve.
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>>67904709
>killing all the gays. Naw. It is the black woman that Abe likes.
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>>67904087
>It's gonna be either Glenn or Daryl.

Glenn's too easy and everyone is expecting it, and he's got a significant fanbase.

Everyone likes Daryl too much.

It's going to be Aaron (unless someone starts asking for a lot of money and AMC gives them the ax.) because no one cares about him and he popped up suddenly just to be the sacrificial lamb

Honestly, they should kill off Maggie, but it's going to be Aaron.
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>>67904274
The Terminus cliffhanger was great. And the Walking Dead have decent cliffhangers.

Specifically with the season six cliffhanger as another said from yesterday thread. In the comics, it happened unexpectedly and Negan brutalized a beloved character, it was completely shocking because nobody in Rick's group had died for awhile and Rick was defenseless, unable to save Glenn, he had to watch in terror. And the aftermath, Rick was left in a hopeless situation simply looking at Glenn's bludgeon head.

In the television show all of that lost its impact with the cliffhanger and made the death meaningless by turning it into a "Guess who die" game.
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>>67904874

It has improved since Mazzara was fired though.

As hackish as it can be sometimes the show is actually much better with Gimple as the showrunner.
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>>67904555

Not only that, but they can put pressure on the actors to keep their wages low.

Someone starts asking for a pay raise, they can write them in to die at the start of season 7.
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>>67904677
New season is confirmed for another October release this year.
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I'm still mad about Beth's death
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>>67904945
Maggie is going to replace the dying old guy at Hilltop.
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>>67904652
According to Nicotero, nobody know.
>As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think we had wrapped all of the actors, because the shot we did with Negan, the sun was coming up and Jeffrey was about to get on a plane and fly back to New York and we didn't have anybody there because we didn't want even somebody on the crew or somebody there to go, "Oh I get it, I know what's going to happen." So I think they were all gone. We built a little rig for Jeffrey to hit so that there would be impact with the baseball bat.
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>>67904765
Yup. I remember the actor who played the tank soldier talking about this. Getting jewed in season 2 sucks but Darabont is still a fucking Jew himself. He could've used his clot to get someone to fund his own zombie show instead of being a bitch trying to fuck over a franchise just because it already has lots of recognition. I hope Gimple keeps his job. He's the shows only hope. If he's fired, which he won't be because most people aren't little crybabies over spilt milk, I hope Nicotero gets the gig instead if that tumblr bitch Kang.
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>>67904294
Wow, they're openly saying "FUCK YOU" to the fanbase.
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>>67904874
> Ima fag and wanna watch a gay ass tv show about zombie love stories!

Luckily the decision wasn’t up to you.
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>>67903995
>>67904087
>kill the lesbian
>kill the gay

I don't think it will be Aaron, he's got LGBT armour and they've already killed the L in LGBT.
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What in the actual fuck OP? Is this common practice in America? if someone don't like an episode of something people is gonna have to lose their job over it?
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>>67905215
They've already said people didn't like it because they need instant gratification
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>>67904874
Did he really wanted to make zombie/human shippings? Was he autsitic? It would completely killed off any hype for zombie series.
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It's obviously Glenn.

It was Glenn in the comics so it will be Glenn in the show.
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>>67904738
>same could be said about the showrunner
Gimple have did nothing but defend himself and the cliffhanger. He's not lying about anything.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/04/walking-dead-showrunner-gimple-finale-cliffhanger
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>>67904953
It's lost momentum for sure but I think it's still got impact. Not defending what they did, I'm just saying Glenn begging for his life, getting beaten retarded while Negan slowly teases him, then getting bashed into paste will really fuck me up for a few minutes if they don't pull those punches. Knew it was gonna end where it ended but just seeing him freak out over Maggie was really fucked up.
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>>67905270
Let's be real
G is the only letter that matters
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>>67905194
> being a bitch trying to fuck over a franchise just because it already has lots of recognition.

Exactly, I have absolutely no sympathy for the guy, even disregarding how completely stupid his plan for the series would have been.

TWD may be a cheesy comic book but at least Kirkman was doing his own thing and not leaching off someone else’s effort.
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>>67905184
>Maggie is going to replace the dying old guy at Hilltop.

In the comics she does, you don't have to follow the comics to a T.

Killing off Maggie in front of everyone would have been unexpected, shocking and really solidified Negan's Big Bad status, especially if you made sure it was nice and gory.

Similar to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_5848fS6Us
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>>67904874
Gimple > Darabont > Marzzara

Gimple has made a ton of really retarded decisions but he tries to stay close to the comics. Darabont was by far the most talented showrunner but he didn't give a fuck about the comics and would've done stupid shit like talking zombies. Mazzara was a total hack.
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>>67905291
Link to that tweet?
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>>67905147
same, only one that affected me, except for maybe to a lesser extend shane or merle
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>>67905283
if your job is to make something people like to generate money, yes
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>>67905346
Yeah, just look at Abraham and Andrea
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>>67904765
There are talking zombies that have communities... The whisperers. And the guy was shitcanned halfway thru season
2.
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>>67905194
Nicotero taking the helm as Showrunner would be GOAT. Gimple did a great job thus far, yet Nicotero could possibly take the show to new possibilites.

Although the ending of the season six finale betrayed expectations. Nicotero direction was great in that episode.
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>>67905450
>Darabont was clearly better but he would have been shit because muh comics
A fucking interactive story with NOTHING to do with these characters surpassed both the comic and this shitty show by miles

The recent issues have been dogshit anway. There's absolutely no doubt about Rick's ability to maintain their current settlement and you should realize AMC is already exploiting it as an excuse to no longer spend money on zombies and make this show a never ending soap opera
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I liked Bear McCrearys Negan theme anyway
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>>67905194
>won't be because most people aren't little crybabies over spilt milk
I mean, Kirkman is a crybaby himself.
>got based Darabont fired because of creative differences
Kirkman is too possessive and controling over his shit, also why he is an executive producer on the show to make sure nobody fuck the show up. All he has to do is whine to AMC and Gimple can get easily fired too.
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>>67905439
They won't though. That would be misogynistic and problematic.
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>>67905781
>why is this creator so controlling over his creation

Kirkman is an idiot, but you are fucking retarded.
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>>67905769
How can a Bear compose music? Quit being silly.
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>>67905787
>That would be misogynistic and problematic.

Killing Glenn would be problematic as well, one of the few strong Asian roles on TV. It'd be racist to kill Glenn.

If we're going by SJW standards, the only people OK to kill are Abraham (strong white male) Rick (white male) and Carl (white future rapist)

Daryl gets a pass because they like him and they think he could be gay or asexual, so can't risk it.

Aaron is gay, can't kill him.

Eugene is autistic or something similar, so can't kill him, since he represents mental sickness diversity.
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They're not even going to tell right away who died. It's just gonna start out with them living life as normal except they'll be working for Negan. Then the whole episode will be centered around them plotting their freedom. Towards the end of the episode they'll flash back to whomever they decided to kill off. Just sucks that they decided to make us wait 6 months to find out. By then we will have already lost interest or forgotten.
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>>67905862
Working on a television show is a collobrative effort. He should have known that going in or haven't said yes to making the show.
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>>67904296
>Tfw stopped watching show years ago, been reading the comics and enjoying every second of it
>Hear Negan was finally getting revealed, torrented the episode to watch the ending and they totally ruined the scene

From what my friends tell me about this show this is normal, isn't it?
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>>67905925
Tell that to the guy who got fired trying to make it his own.
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>>67904296
Scott you need to be doing contract negotiations, put down the laptop
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>>67905925
You don't get it. Darabont doesn't collaborate with anyone. There's no defending evolving zombies. That's like defending aliens or werewolves showi g up. Kirkman and Gimple concede to each other in equal amounts while keeping their sights on keeping shit loyal to the world the source material builds.
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It was probably the networks idea you naive niggers.
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>>67905930
>From what my friends tell me about this show this is normal, isn't it?
Some cliffhangers of the Walking Dead are decent and at least average. The season six finale kinda lost the meaning it had in the comic.
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>>67905501
http://www.techinsider.io/why-walking-dead-season-6-ended-on-cliffhanger-2016-4
>"Just be patient, being in this world of instant gratification," says Nicotero. "Come on, you can wait a little while."
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>>67905916
That's why it's gonna be Abraham. He's already dead in the comics, so they saved him for this scene. And he no longer has an arc.

That whole Maggie crying over Glenn's death will just be Sasha crying over Abraham's death.
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>>67905611
>There are talking zombies that have communities... The whisperers.

Except of course they're not zombies.

>And the guy was shitcanned halfway thru season2.

Because he was (correctly) bitching about AMC taking money from TWD to pay for Mad Men but also because he was insisting on including talking zombies and other retardation in the show.
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>yfw whoever got lucille'd doesn't even end up dying
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>having trevor but not having him be neagan
>not having the "dont want to be racist, sexist, racist and sexist"
>not showing who got hit glen
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>>67905693
>you should realize AMC is already exploiting it as an excuse to no longer spend money on zombies and make this show a never ending soap opera
This would be fine if AMC hired some decent writers. Villains like Negan and the Governor are far more interesting than zombies.
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>>67906102
>bitching about AMC taking money from TWD to pay for Mad Men
>(correctly)

You fucking pleb.
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>>67906063

Which isn't as bad as Aaron (I still think it's going to be him), but it's still a cop out compared to killing Glenn, even if it is expected.

I mean, shit Maggie is white. You're killing a white woman, you're increasing diversity, there's a smaller pecentage of whites afterward.

Plus, Maggie dying would be unexpected, still sort of get at Glenn metaphorically, and shock people.
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>>67906160
AMC had more than enough money to pay for both shows.
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>>67906063
but then Maggie wouldn't be super pissed at Rick, leaving Alexandria and subsequently establishing herself as leader of Hilltop.
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>>67906063
>Its a Sasha starts acting irrationally because her bf is dead episode
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>>67905988
>implying Kirkman didn't lie about that
Kirkman smearing the good ole' name of Frank Darabont.
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>>67904945
>>67905916
Dwight shot Daryl because he knew Negan wouldn't kill a guy half dead. He did it as a favor.
Daryl is plot armor tier and the mascot of the show. People remember him more than Rick. He might die eventually but not like that.
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>>67906113
nah, there was enough slam dunks to make sure that head is mush.
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>>67905916
SJWs don't care about gays and artists anymore, m8
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>>67905917
>They're not even going to tell right away who died.

I'm guessing they won't reveal who got Lucilled (and it was Glenn) until the 3rd episode, after a flash-back episode of Negan's background story and another episode of Carol and Morgan hanging out with the cavalry from the Kingdom.
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>>67906029
implying mutant zombies wouldnt be badass

oh right, muh drama
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>>67906209
then glenn will, jesus man anyone can (re)write this shit
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>>67906135
I agree anon. Unfortunately it's gonna be the same thing they did with the governor. They watered the governor down and stretched his role in the story far beyond his use.

They're already focus grouping to find out the least compelling character to kill off. Negan isn't even dead in the source material, he'll still be the main antagonist when this shit fails to get renewed for its 13th season
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>>67903630
Willing to bet Ezekial and his tiger is the next cliffhanger, as in the same shit they did when they first showed michonne. Itll be shot from his POV when they get introduced to him by his guards. Maybe they give him one line and you hear the Tiger let out a low growl or some shit, smash cut to black and end credits.
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there is literally no chance in hell that the death isn't leaked over the summer. especially with this show's handling of spoilers always being leaked.

what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>67904765
>full retard with it
>thinking and talking zombies
>zombie communities
>zombie relationships

Out of all that, the only thing that jumps up is Zombie Shane saying "Rick". Other than that, I've literally never heard any of that shit about Darabont's "plan for the series". I heard about his idea for spin off self contained episodes, like that one about Sam Witwer's soldier during the Fall of Atlanta. He wanted to do other shit like exploring the origin of the virus. It's strange, six months back everyone was hailing Darabont as the savior TWD deserved. Now it seems everyones turned on him completely. I remember not that long ago faggots here sucked Gimple's cock too.
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>>67906239
>SJWs don't care about gays anymore

Lol, since when?
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>>67906135
>>67906287
I think JDM will become part of the main cast.
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>>67906248
have you seen some of the later romero films?

i can assure you, they're definitely not
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>>67906257
aaaaaaand gregory is gonna hit on glenn and pressure him into sexy time thus being killed by him ..makes sense.
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>>67905925

Adapting a story means just that, not wiping your ass with the original story and using its popularity to tell a wholly different and completely shitty story.
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>>67906313
Since gays started fighting against feminists
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>>67906298
>there is literally no chance in hell that the death isn't leaked over the summer
Either Gimple or Nicotero said in an interview they are aware it'll get spoiled and they'll try their best this time to prevent leaks.
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>>67906334
>that pic
Ok, well done. I'm mad now.
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>>67906229
Daryll will probably one of those final season deaths.
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>>67906229
Idk I think he crippled him because otherwise he'd have to kill him. I could see Negan killing Daryl BECAUSE he's wounded. He could think that's merciful. Of course Dwight would be upset seeing his boyfriend getting beaten retarded
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>>67906219
I hate those episodes. Why are the writers so awful when it comes to characters having conscience crises? In something like Breaking Bad or Mad Men a character would struggle but they wouldn't throw all logic out the window. Every time someone in The Walking Dead has a conscience crisis they act like a fucking retard.
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It's gonna be Glenn and then Kork is gonna bang Maggie.
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>>67906229
Daryl is also meant to replace Dwight and be a cooler version of him, hence the hot potato with crossbow this season. Rick, Coral, 6 million Fold Katana negro, and Daryl are bullet proof.
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>>67906326
then they'll write a female character instead. fuck man are you autistic
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>>67906160

You inability to respond in a meaningful way is noted.

I graciously accept your surrender.
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>>67906294
>even more pov

It's probably them walking up to the house and being stopped by that tiger out of nowhere, followed by an off-screen line by Ezekiel, followed by credits

also, will be officially known as when this show jumped the shark
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>>67906229
>Daryl is plot armor tier and the mascot of this show

That's the other thing I hate about TWD. The deaths stung in the first and second (albeit shitty) season because you Rick was the only safe character.

But we all know who's who now. I suppose the walking dead is still a compelling show to blacks and women who see their tokens eat the dust but the carol/daryl/glenn fanbases have them locked into the show. Rick still can't die because his the main and Kirkman loves Coral too much to suprise us. The retards who dickride bandwagon characters only tune in to see them LIVE, it's fucking ridiculous and its ruining the pace of the series.

TL;DR the writers need to work on making the supporting cast more compelling so we can give a shit when they inevitably die
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>>67906481
gregory was already shown. do you know any other insults or did you just pick up that word from 4chan because it sounds cool and semi-intelligent?
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It was Glenn, confirmed by the german version of the episode. You can clearly hear Maggies voice in the end, she is even shouting "Glenn"
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>>67906334
Darabont is legendary and wouldn't have done fuck up the Walking Dead.
>regretted killing off Shane early
>Kirkman regretted chopping of Rick hand
>Kirkman regretted killing off Ab
Perhaps after Darabont got fired Kirkman use him as the scapegoat and made these wild accusations.

Kirkman can't write for shit nor tell a story.
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>>67904014
>>67904455
>>67905186
According to JDM, he had no idea it would be cliffhanger until he watched the episode. Not sure what that means. We're getting conflicting info all over.
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>>67906308
>He wanted to do other shit like exploring the origin of the virus.

That was fucking terrible. That whole segment in that facility and the x-ray of the virus affecting the brain and shit. It reminded me of shitty 80s horror movie. They should leave relics like Darabont in the past where they belong.
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>>67906257
>then glenn will, jesus man anyone can (re)write this shit

Maggie has already been set-up as the new mayor of Alexandria, first as an assistant to Mayor Janeway and then negotiating the deal with the Hilltop's mayor.
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It is fucking Glenn. The only reason they did this is so the show could be special and give the illusion of a cliffhanger when there isn't one.
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>>67906244
They'll save the Negan background episode for season 8 second half when he is captured and has time to think in his prison cell. And yes they'll stretch this out as much as possible.

First half season 7: Rick getting cucked.
First half season 7 finale: gathering an army
Second half season 7: battle prep
First half season 8: all out war
Second half season 8: aftermath with the finale bringing in a relatively minor threat
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>>67906308
>exploring the origin of the virus.
That's retarded on so many levels. Would ruin the mystery, let's be honest to Kirkman deep down its either aliens or magic. I'm sure Darabont would make it an evil terrorist attack. And exploring origins which don't matter to the story at all would out our characters in the fridge. It's all useless unless you want to stupidly cure the plague which in turn ends the story. Why the fuck would you want to explore the origins of something like that when you've go... You know.... The Walking Dead's story to tell? Zombie origin is even worse than evolving zombies.
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>>67906287
>They watered the governor down and stretched his role in the story far beyond his use.

I'll agree that stretching out the Governor arc into two seasons was just shekel shuffling on AMC's part but TV Governor was FAR better written then Comic Governor, who was a fucking clown.
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>>67906568

they need to make rick like an anchor character, he never dies and is always important somehow, but shift focus almost entirely to other characters, and then have them die/become severely crippled/suffer complete mental breakdown. make you give a shit about people dying instead of them being obvious redshirts all the time. like what was the most recent death? big fat useless idiot lesbian, wow! never seen that coming.

rick is like the fucking goku of TWD at the moment - invincible, the best fighter in the world, always have a plan and an answer. and even goku died twice
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>>67906579
write another female character that fills that role in the story, how is any of this not getting through that thick skull of yours, do you know how stories work
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>>67906672

Yeah, plans fail.

Noah was going to build some walls too. That plan didn't happen.

Rick and the group were planning on going to the Hilltop to get a doctor, how did that plan work out.

Just because they plan shit doesn't mean it'll happen. I bet that fat girl was planning on living too.
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>People shit so much on season finale
>Season 7 starts showing Morgan got lucilled
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>>67906777
because it WONT FUCKING WORK NOW. jeebus, get your head outta your ass.
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>>67906708
>implying they won't drag it out so that season 9 ends with Rick slitting Negan's throat as the cliffhanger
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>>67906754
They literally could've skipped first half of season 4 and had the season finale of 3 be the mid season finale of 4. That battle was the one that ended season 3, not the retardation that was the Gov killing all of his own men
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>>67906672
could've been a red herring to mess with comic readers

the tv show can literally do whatever the fuck it wants, stop comparing it to the comic, this shitty season finale only proves they'll fuck anything up
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>>67906308
>It's strange, six months back everyone was hailing Darabont as the savior TWD deserved. Now it seems everyones turned on him completely. I remember not that long ago faggots here sucked Gimple's cock too.

Thats because the fanbase of this show is fucking retarded, and 4chan is so contrarian that they're going to continue sucking Gimples cock solely because everybody else rightfully turned on him. I'm already seeing it in this thread.
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>>67906640
>>67906717
>this butthurt

That's just one of the things Darabont wanted to do. You're telling me episodes focusing on police and military in Atlanta and other cities, as everything is being overrun, wouldn't be dank as fuck?

>>67906717
You especially seem highly irrational and angry. Like relax buddy, you're gonna blow a gasket ragging like that. Darabont isn't anywhere near TWD anymore, don't worry, your show is safe.
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>>67906835
they could write glenn flying into hilltop on a fucking unicorn if they want to, these are just words on pages you fucknut, they can do whatever the fuck they want, let alone slightly modify a completely inconsequential story beat
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>>67903962
I can't believe you fell for that. That was so fake.
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>>67904296

It's annoying. Really annoying. They've spent the entire season building up to that moment. They've even rushed things just to get to that moment. They've teased that moment the entire season, and then they don't give it to us. The entirety of season 6 feels pretty pointless now.
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>>67906946
>That's just one of the things Darabont wanted to do

I know, that's why it felt so cheesy and completely out of place with the rest of the walking dead.

Darabont should direct some low budget sy-fy channel shitshow. He'll be happy there with his shlock.
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>>67906946
>heh u mad bro?
Nope, so now what?
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>>67907142
>IM NOT MAD BRO HAHAHA EPIC U WOT!?

Judging by the context and style of this post >>67906761 I'd say that you are in fact, mad. Sputtering out sentence fragments with shit grammar and syntax, while spouting NOT MAD NOT MAD, is usually a sure sign of frustration. Your best course of action would have been to just not respond, but you couldn't resist the chance to let everyone know how not mad you are.
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>>67906308
>Out of all that, the only thing that jumps up is Zombie Shane saying "Rick".

There are the zombies using bricks to smash their way into the downtown store and zombie climbing fences and zombies "remembering" their past life (i.e Bus Zombie and Morgan's wife) in the 1st season but the show didn't end up going full-retard, because Kirkman was resisting the trashing of his work with all the stupid shit Darabont wanted to include.

Darabont wanted the zombies to becom less zombielike as the series progressed, until they were regular characters on the show just like the survivors, only with their flesh hanging off...
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>>67903410
This show is still on the air?
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Hey guys, have you watched Fear the walking dead, Washington spies and Spinning bowler hat yet?
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>>67906717
>>67906946

reminder that fear the walking dead is already better than the main show

>>67907258
hi,
>>67906761
here. youre responding to two different people in that post.
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Who was on the end of the stick /tv/?
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>>67907265
That would be awful. The biggest problem that the show already has is that it fucks up the source material so often.
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>>67907265
>shit that's cool in Romero's movies is shit in TWD

I guess the current course of the show was the best decision. #WhoIsIt m i rite friend?
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>>67906559
Well, you just KNOW they dont have the budget or the fucking insurance to have a live trained tiger on set, so itll be a HORRENDOUS CGI shitshow, or they will just cut the tiger completely, maybe replace it with a pair of big dogs, like pitbulls or some shit.

And after the timeskip, how are they going to show the thousands strong herds that they have to predict like weather patterns and redirect them?

The show is going to have some serious budget issues coming soon if shit isnt funneled around to the right places...
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>>67907328
>already better than the main show
>entire premise of the show is to see the outbreak and collapse
>2 week time skip right when shit starts to get bad

Yeah, its the same kind of shit as TWD, that you can't see that speaks volumes
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It already leaked retards
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>>67906599
>Kirkman can't write for shit nor tell a story.

Granted, he's no Shakespeare by a long shot but it's HIS story and Darabont can fuck off if he doesn't like it.

And there is no way you can honestly claim that a zombie relationship tv show wouldn't be absolute shit.
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>>67907265
>>67907366

Zombies using simple tools and climbing and shit isn't that bad and has been in the original Night of the Living Dead.

Frankly, I wish more zombie shows/movies would use smarter zombies. Not human smart, but smart enough to use some basic tools, avoid guns and fire, ect, some basic teamwork, more like eusocial tool using insects.
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>>67907397
Wow bro, are you implying that having a tiger would be more expensive than having the live zombies that they already have hundreds of?
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>>67907482
Yeah I don't see the big deal. All that stuff was already covered in Romero's movies anyway. Retards gotta retard though I guess. Kirkman's just a fat hack shitlord anyway. The very moment he introduced to save the comic, he's aloud to become the death knell of the show.
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>>67907328
>responding to two different people

Yeah, I meant to link back to >>67906717, not your post

Though I do like FtWD's posited origins of the virus. It just rose up out of the open sewers of society, claiming the dregs of civilization first.
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>>67907547
I don't care about zombies using bricks or whatever. But zombies becoming sentient and becoming recurring characters is just fucking silly.
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>>67907547
>wtf did you just say

english son
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>>67907458
>they did it the madmen
>they actually decided to not kill anyone
This best be pulled out their ass or I might finally stop watching this shitheap
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>>67903962
>there was something on tumblr
>tumblr

No wonder you're retarded.
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>>67904765
>with thinking and talking zombies who build zombie communities and have zombie relationships
And a few years later Kirkman made the Whispers, people who zombie masks like it is Halloween living amongst the Walkers.

Darabont was ahead of his times with that idea.
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>>67907532
Using some spirit gum and some makeup and fake blood with a little bit of CGI (like when they get shot) would be a lot fucking cheaper than a full CGI tiger which would look like shit, or paying the cash for a live trained tiger, and the insurance and animal control people that would come along with it. And yeah, I believe if they have to start showing thousand strong herds of zombies, thats going to get extremely expensive as well.

And im more than willing to bet a lot of the zombies we see arent even getting a salary of any kind unless they actually feature in a scene. They are extras who probably get a free lunch, get to meet and work with the cast, get a walk on credit on their resume and MAYBE a SAG card after shooting is done. The zombies themselves probably barely make a dent in the shows budget, and hell, in some scenes you can tell how shit their budget actually is by how bad some of the zombies makeup gets over the course of a season. Also fun when you can spot the same extra with their makeup done just different enough to pass as a different zombie.
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>>67907653

>implying leaving him cabbaged wouldnt be ten times worse
>implying theyd have the sack to do this
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>>67907628
>come up with Negan because the comic is failing
>Negan's introduction becomes one of the hallmark moments of the comics
>Negans introduction is anticipated on the show for seasons
>get cucked hardcore by some shitty cliffhanger that totally misses the point
>Kirkman stands by Gimple and defends the cliffhanger as "perfect"
>literally all the normie fans are upset and pissed off

What are you fucking stupid or something? Can't into reading comprehension?
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>>67907653
>>67907764

It's a lie anyways, he hits him like 6 times in the black screen, and in the last hit you can clearly hear a skull being turned into paste.
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>>67907622
I've never seen anything to attest that they were going to become fully sentient recurring characters with their own thriving communities. The only evidence I've ever heard of any of that, aside from what's already been brought up, is Shane saying Rick right after he's zombified. And that was explained away as Shane being an ultrafresh zombie.

Seems like Kirkman was just completely upset that Darabont was coming up with ways to make his series better.
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I've watched up to season 4 of the show, considering just reading the comic because the shows writing is awful. Is it recommended?
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>>67907459
Kirkman doesn't own the zombie genre as he think, the Walking Dead isn't his as he ripped off Romero, even named Morgan's son after the main character in Dawn of the Dead.

If anything, Romero should have shut his shit down.
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>>67906899
>could've been a red herring to mess with comic readers

They could, but they've been more or less following the comic and there's no reason not to continue to follow the comic and make Maggie the new mayor of Alexandria and that requires Glenn being killed by Negan, which even normies who have never seen the comic are now aware of.
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>>67907764
Negan says he wants them alive so they can provide for him. Leaving them with a cripple to take care of wouldn't fit with that.
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>>67908003
Nevermind that Negan clearly hits him like 8 times and the last few are very, very pulpy.
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>“I’m sorry the fans are angry about it because I think it’s a very thrilling and shocking way to leave a season,” Lincoln told TheWrap. “People have four or five months to recover from that. And conversely, from a writing standpoint, it’s daring what they’re doing. As a returning episode, to kill one of us to start the season? It’s not the usual way one would start off as a writer.”
http://www.thewrap.com/walking-deads-andrew-lincoln-defends-shocking-season-6-finale-cliffhanger/#
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>>67907482
>Frankly, I wish more zombie shows/movies would use smarter zombies. Not human smart

Except that's where Darabont wanted to go; intelligent talking zombies who have feelings and emotions, etc. and so on.
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>>67908107
>very thrilling and shocking

except its neither, not in the least. They took a moment that, as a whole, was very thrilling and shocking, but then they neutered it and removed all meaning.
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>>67908181
>[Citation Needed]

I have never heard any one say he planned to go that far, until I opened this thread.
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>>67903975
I find the lack of zombies disturbing
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>Among total viewers, Sunday’s 90-minute “Last Day On Earth” episode declined just more than 10% from the March 29, 2015 “Conquer” episode
http://deadline.com/2016/04/the-walking-dead-ratings-season-6-finale-down-amc-1201732195/
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>>67908107
>1 hour of nothing but driving and standoffs that go nowhere
>very thrilling and shocking
c'mon L Dog
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>>67906294
Aren't those horse guys from Ezekiel kingdom?
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>>67907924
>Kirkman doesn't own the zombie genre

No, but he does own The Walking Dead and the contract he and AMC signed gave him some measure of control over the tv series unlike GRRM, which is surprising, as GRRM already had experience working with Hollywood and you'd have thought he have known better.

Darabont wanted to take over the story and take it where _he_ wanted to go and Kirkman had every to tell him to fuck off.
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>>67908107
>People have four or five months to recover from that
From what? Nobody died. Nobody is recovering from shit except turned it into a fan game of "Guess Who?"

I suppose, this is how they'll decide who get Lucilled, if any actor said they didn't like it or don't defend the season finale. It's goodbye.
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>>67908451
>Darabont wanted to take over the story
Kirkman turned it into a he said, she said game.

Why are you so keen to believe that fatfuck hack? It's all baseless assumptions aside from Darabont wanting to write a side-story about the guy in the tank.
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>>67908429
Yes.
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>>67909010

what the fuck? is this a mount and blade general now?

good taste in mods btw. 1257 a GOAT
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>>67909102
I thought I was posting in /mbg/
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>>67908588
> Why are you so keen to believe that fatfuck hack?

Because that’s how Hollywood types like Darabont behave; they see themselves as the penultimate artiste whose shit don’t stink and of course their “take” on the story is guaranteed to be way better then the original author's.

TWD is admittedly a cheese-ball tv series but what Darabont wanted to do was fucking stupid and arrogant.

> It's all baseless assumptions aside from Darabont wanting to write a side-story about the guy in the tank.

I liked Darabont’s plans to do back-story episodes of how this or that zombie ended up becoming a zombie (i.e. Bicycle Girl and Tank Zombie) and AMC deserves the blame for fucking that up, with their insistence on an homogenized and predictable tv show with the same characters every episode.

But thinking and talking zombies is retarded and would have killed the show and insisting on that, ended up costing Darabont his gig.
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>Goofs/errors
>Chandler Riggs's shadow can be seen on Negan in the POV shot. This is on accident because in the leaked footage of the scene, Riggs is standing just outside of the shot, watching Jeffrey Dean Morgan hit the camera
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>>67909270
>Because that’s how Hollywood types like Darabont behave; they see themselves as the penultimate artiste whose shit don’t stink
Funny because Kirkman has that same mentality.
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>>67903630
They will cuck the audiences by having all of S7E01 be a flashback.
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>>67903546
Gimple wants that!
all the comicfags with his spoilers leaving!
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>>67909270
>But thinking and talking zombies is retarded and would have killed the show
Since the Whispers wear Walker skin as masks and live amongst the zombies, will the Whispers arc kill the show then?
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>>67909270
>Darabont’s plans to do back-story episodes of how this or that zombie ended up becoming a zombie (i.e. Bicycle Girl and Tank Zombie)

that could have been what Fear the Walking Dead was, instead of forgettable cuck propaganda

fuck why do hollywood jews ruin EVERYthing
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>>67903546
The Jesus episodes are great, the others are awful.
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>>67903410

The season finale already had worse ratings than season 5's finale, and hopefully season 7's premiere will too. Ready for some kind of change.
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>>67909576
Dropped ten percent >>67908345
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>>67909510
but the whisperers are NOT zombies, they're human, and its revealed pretty damn quickly that they are humans. its not remotely the same thing as talking, intelligent, emotional zombies. why the fuck are you trying to argue that?
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>>67903410
No. Nothing will happen. The fans will return, and be served shit on a plate, eat it all, and ask for more. AMC will see how successful the butchering was and you'll continue to get bullshit like Glen's dumpster bazinga, the bat and anything else TWD has done to piss of the viewers.

I said this in season 2. I said this in season 3.
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>>67909683
>We are the Walking Dead
>Whispers became "zombies"
Fuck off.
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The only thing I care about is the BEATING but I really doubt AMC has the balls to show someone getting bludgeoned to death in that manner. Post YFW they just cut to after the POV scene and say "Sucks that _______ died".
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>>67909778
no, really, what are you talking about? your point makes no sense. the whispers just found a way to survive without being eaten by zombies as well as not bothered by other humans.

that has nothing to do what so ever with corpses that can somehow think and feel.
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>>67909510
All Our War is end game.
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>>67909778
>>67909891
>>67909729
Quit samefagging.
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>>67909340

Except TWD is Kirkman's own work and I applaud him for standing his ground despite the money AMC was waving under his nose.
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>>67909984
>despite the money AMC was waving under his nose
And now that money AMC was wavin in his nose is all his since TWD is the biggest shit ever.

BRAVO KIRKMAN
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>>67909516

>fucking happy for once, as FTWD will be what WWZ should have been
>WANT THAT? TOO BAD, HERE TWD 2.0, FUK YOU
>a-at least they can t-take it slow and show civilization f-falling for a season or two until we get to full blown a-apocalyps-
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>>67904296
That's the thing though. I'm not going to find out in the next episode. It's going to be spoiled before then.
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>>67910314
1 pilot introducing characters. Apocalypse begins
5 episodes of family stuck in house

BRAVO KIRKMAN AND AMC! BRAVO!
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>>67910097

TWD is the #1 show on tv, while Darabont's "Lives & Loves of Zombies" would have been canceled after one season.
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>>67910538
They desperately need to kill FTWD and feed that show's budget into TWD.

Fucking Z Nation does more with a microbudget than FTWD does.
Christ.
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>>67910636
Z-Nation, while it's nothing more than a b-movie, is so much fucking fun. It knows what is it and plays up that. My parents watch both TWD and Z, and love Z way more.
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>>67906754
Horse shit. Fumanchu mustache twirler was way better, if only because he didn't kill his entire crew because they fucked up an invasion, become a good-but-crazy guy, and then lead a second invasion because this time he has a tank.
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>>67910636
I assume Fear makes back its money and doesn't interfere with TWD at all. Hopefully Fear doing its own thing, making its own money, lets the network loosen their grip from the original show a bit, since they've got two popular sources of income instead of 1.
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So hypothetically let's say we won't find out who Negan killed until this time next year. How mad will people be? I can imagine half of season 7 part A being set in side The Saviors camp The Sanctuary, exploring their characters a little with episodes tying into Bud getting killed or other scenes.

Would ratings drop or plummet if we had to wait until March 2017 to find out who gets Luciled?
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>>67911082
We will find out in a few weeks when filming begins and someone is missing on set.
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>>67911230
>not knowing that AMC will have everyone back on set so nobody can find out who dies
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>>67911455
>AMC is that smart
Gimple said it himself how he can't prevent that from happening. It's something beyond his control.
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>>67911082

I'm betting it was probably Michonne. The Walking Dead has almost never shot camera angles from a first person perspective, but in this episode, we see that multiple times, at least four, including the opening of the show and the end of the show.

If we are supposed to believe these shots represent the first-person view of just one person, then we know the person being beaten at the end has to be someone that was in the van, since the show opened with their view of the light from inside the van. The only other things we can discern from these first-person shots in the van is the back of someone's head... Daryl's head... and that the angle also appears to be the passenger's side of the van. Assuming everyone stayed seated where they were, when the van doors are opened and they are all let out and put in line on their knees, the person that was sitting on the passenger's side of the van and would have seen the back of Daryl's head is Michonne.
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What if Negan has........ a son Carl's age... named Wrex and Wrex is totally gay for Carl?
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>>67912166

They left no clue at all because they literally don't know who to kill.
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It's probably Eugene since he had a send-off scene in the episode that wrapped up his character arc
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Michonne dies
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>>67912307
>They left no clue at all
You're an idiot.
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>>67912166

Michonne can not be happy as well, if that's one thing we've learned from The Walking Dead it's that. She has to have a miserable existence, see her family getting separated, boyfriend and his friend turning, seeing countless friends and Ezekiel dying.

>>67912228

Negan confirmed he has no family at all of his own.
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When I first saw the red rover chain roadblock of walkers, once they realised that the belongings of Michonne and Daryl were attached onto them, for a second I was scared that they were zombified Rosita, Michonne and Daryl there due to similar hairstyles.. I think the first character whom we see reintroduced dead as a walker without knowing whether they died earlier on or not was Sophia.
If those walkers had been our favourite characters, that would have been more horrific than the Negan beating with Lucille.

It is like the twist in Macross DYRL and Planet of the Apes where they realised Earth is destroyed after extra scrutiny of the place. If the four captured good guys were just reintroduced in slave rags etc, it wouldn't have had the same effect as them being walkers as the identity of the walkers would not be recognisable immediately.
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>>67912307

And yet they chose to shoot the opening and ending shots in first person.
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>>67912310

No, that would be ridiculous. Can you imagine them devoting time in this show to giving Eugene a send off, leaving us with a cliffhanger, then coming back 6 months later only to reveal the person they killed off is the one they ham-fistedly telegraphed being a goner? People would be fucking furious.
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>>67909729

then why do you still care years later??? retarded much?
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>>67906060
>"Come on, you can wait a little while."
>6 months
>a little

At least a 100 people who watch this will be dead by then either by a disease, failed organ or freak accident. They don't have time.
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>>67903410

Yes, definitely.

The show lost 4 million viewers from last season. They'll lose a lot more this time.

Hollywood learned back in the days of the serial that cliffhangers wear the audience out, that eventually they become tiresome, and eventually people just walk away.
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>>67912357

>he thinks they decided who to kill in a cliffhanger before jewing the actors asking for the most money

>>67912490

Uh... so?
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The progressive magnitude of the roadblocks was outstanding.

1st - 3 cars + 8 guys
2nd - 5 cars + 12 guys
3rd - walker chain + ambushers
4th - 5+ vehicles, 25+ guys, the most menacing of them all
5th burning logs

I am wondering whether all personel of each roadblock ended up convening at Negan's showground with extra saviours of course.

So approximately how many saviours were at the assembly?
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>>67912665
>Uh... so?

If all the first-person shots are supposed to represent the view of only a single person, then the eyes we're looking through at the end when they are being killed are the same as the ones we're looking through at the beginning when they are locked in the van. That instantly narrows it to 1 of the 4 people in the van.
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>>67906124
>>having trevor but not having him be neagan
this, shameful display
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>>67912695
There seemed to be about 50+ guys. And probably more around the perimeter in case there were Walkers lurking about.

The roadblocks was something out of a horror movie. At first, you think they'll find a way out of this, but the truth starts dawning in as each obstacle they come across.

Say what you want about the finale, but the tension and Rick's loss of confidence was amazing. Not even the Governor could do this to him.
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>>67912542

Not to mention who would be Rick's second in command? They need Eugine to get shit running and he and Rick pretty much become best friends forever.
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>>67912695

This is part of the reason I hated the episode. It was just too ridiculous that Negan's people knew Rick's group would be travelling to Hilltop that day, and about what time they'd be making the trip, which route they'd attempt to take, and the order in which they'd attempt to take subsequent routes, as well as the ultimate plan to use the RV as a decoy, and where specifically in the woods they would be walking on foot in the dark.

It was just too fucking ridiculous. Even in a show about zombies, this was just asking for TOO much suspension of disbelief. It was totally implausible, and made no fucking sense. Shit, the people from the first road block apparently drive to the log barricade in order to toss their guy off the overpass, yet Rick's group doesn't have the sense to go back to the original route these people clearly abandoned?!
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>>67912829
>It was just too ridiculous that Negan's people knew Rick's group would be travelling to Hilltop that day
You're forgetting that Enid is a spy
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>>67912829
I thought so at first, but remember that group of Saviors that Carol machine-gunned? They already knew about Alexandria and how far away it was. Don't forget the blonde douche that stole Daryl's motorcycle and crossbow (which killed the lesbian doctor). Negan probably sent a lot of advance scouts to recon Alexandria. Probably even had Parabolic microphones to listen on like Aaron does.

He probably had a few people stationed near Alexandria and they observed that Maggie seemed to be hurt and they were traveling in an RV. They radioed Negan who figured out they were going to the Hilltop for help and set his trap up.
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>>67912980

This.
If I was Negan the smart thing I would do if I ever came across several communities and wasn't so sure about them yet, I would plant spies in their midst, not to mention when they are under my rule they'd be able to report back with any information on any future rebellions they would be attempting to stage.
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>>67907876
Yes
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>>67912829

The show has horrendous writing, plain and simple.
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>>67912980

Is that legit? I haven't read the comics after Regina was killed.

>>67912989

That needs to be explained then if that is the case. Instead, the show just makes it look like Negan's guys are implausibly ever present. I mean, the fact they find them wandering the woods at night is just ludicrous. That's one of the sins of film and television: the world is a big place, but main characters always manage to meet up. Shit, they did it in the previous episode when Daryl and Rosita wander off, but still manage to find Michonne and Glenn tied up in the woods after leaving them.
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>>67912782
Yeah Rick's descent from smug alpha to trembling wreck was pretty great.
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>>67913160

Not legit.
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>>67913160
There was enough subtle clues that justifies this observation.

I mean, even Negan would predict that they would try to leave the RV and go on foot. When they captured Eugene, they beat the shit out of him (which is why he was so bloody) and figured out where Rick's group would be. Negan radios in his people at the roadblocks to close in and then tightens the noose.
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>>67913063

I don't think Enid is a spy. The show was pretty forthcoming in showing her past experiences and how she arrived at Alexandria.
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>>67913191
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I'd murder people for this fella.
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>>67913160
In the comic there is no Enid and I don't remember anything about Negan using spies

The idea that she is a spy started with the Wolves, she seemed to know they were about to attack. So she could only be a spy if the Saviors warned her about the Wolves attack
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>>67913226

But why would Negan predict that? There is no rationale as to why that would be the best option among other options. It would have been just as likely that the group head back to the original roadblock, since the people that were there wouldn't have any reason to think they'd try that route again, and also because they clearly abandoned the roadblock to go hang a guy on an overpass by the log roadblock.
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>>67913160
honestly, they'll probably address this in the next season

or, quite possibly, never
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>>67913191
To be fair, if you were Rick, you'd be pretty self-assured too.

You fought the Governor, survived Terminus, annihilated the Wolves, and other hostiles. You feel like your a badass and there's nothing Negan can do to scare you.

If Negan only had 50 guys, he'd be no sweat to Team Alexandria. However, it's clear that Negan had numbers. Probably at least 150 guys or more. And that's AFTER all those Saviors that got killed by Rick, Daryl, etc.

Even Abraham realized how fucked they were after the roadblocks. And he's a battle-hardened soldier who somehow went from Louisiana to Georgia. I really wished we had seen his backstory with Eugene and what they went through.
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>>67903410
the showrunner better lose his job especially after that smug shit he was pulling in the after show and in interviews the next day.
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>>67913252
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>>67913249
And people try to say that Rick isn't the best character, or the only one worth giving a shit about.

He certainly is the beast and most competently acted character at least.
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>>67912166
I never even thought about that. If there is any truth to them saying there was hints about who gets killed, I think that would be it. I think it was Daryl's POV in the van. And I don't think they use a pov shot for anything besides the inside of the van and the lineup.
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>>67913339
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>>67913305
Negan had plenty of people covering every contingency. Negan wanted to teach Rick a massive lesson after getting humiliated with all those prior Saviors getting killed.

Negan wanted to psychologically destroy Rick's group. They thought that the Saviors were typical bandits; guys that they could easily blitz through. But the fact that they're this well-organized is precisely why the roadtrip on the RV was scary as fuck. There's no way out.

Their only choice was to do something completely out of left field; something that Negan wouldn't have expected. Like a bum rush across an alternate path or something.
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>>67905283
>someone's job is to make something
>he cant do that well
>loses his job

This is how the free world works. No idea how things go in your Europoor country. If a chef there makes shit food do you keep eating it?
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do any of you think we saw through the victims POV in the van?
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>>67913374

It can't be Daryl's point of view in the van, because the only other thing we can see in any of the in-van first-person shots is the top-back of someone's head, and it is clearly Daryl's head.
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>>67913438

I put a decently large post about it here >>67912166
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>>67912542
And god knows they would never do anything to infuriate fans

GTFO
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>>67913249
I wonder which was more terrifying to Rick? When he was about to be butchered at Terminus or this? Because unlike Terminus, there isn't Carol launching an attack to save the day. If Carol hadn't shown up, Rick, Glenn, Carl, etc. would've became meat.
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>>67913312
Andrew Lincoln really sold that feeling of 'We got this' to 'I dun fucked up' well. His arc in one episode was more convincing that Carol's in the last several episodes.
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>>67913526
Rick already had a plan. He was cutting his restraints.

With Negan? He was entirely at his mercy and there was nothing he could do about it.
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>>67913550
He should've just taken a chance and killed those Saviors at the 1st roadblock.
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>>67913582
He was still a long way's off from cutting those restraints in time. Carol's attack gave him time and a lack of guards to pull it off.
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>>67903410
If it wasn't a cliffhanger it wouldn't get half the attention, which makes AMC money.
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Was that guy the Savior's beat down and then hung from the overpass anybody? I kept thinking I'd seen him at Hilltop.
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#FireScottGimple
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>>67913478
I thought it looked more centered, and that's where Glenn was, in the very back.
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>>67913683
They said he was from a group in a library. Then Carol finds that library and stays in it with Morgan POETRY
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>>67913582
Ricks "plan" was shit. Sure they could have maybe escaped that room and killed a few guys but the only reason they made it out the compound was every guy was distracted and dealing with the walkers Carol let in.
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>>67913683
He was from the red library Carol and Morgan stopped at. The Saviors subjugated them. They fought back and all got massacred except the guy that they chased and hung from the bridge. Steven Ogg's character relayed all this before he killed him.
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>>67907458
that's literally the worst possible thing they could've come up with.
>implying it's true though
if that happens, I'm dropping the show. I'm only watchin it because of the comics at this point.
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I'll also say, in regards to my thinking that it is Michonne, the only other thing we really have to go on is Negan's comment "Look at you, taking it like a champ!" I think it fits Michonne's attitude that she wouldn't puss out after the first hit.

Also, I'd like to eliminate who I think it ISN'T. We know it isn't Rick or Carl, because Negan says to pull out Carl's other eye and feed it to Rick if anyone tries anything while he's beating on the victim. I assume it isn't Abraham, because he was noticeably defiant to Negan, and I think Negan would be less likely to kill the one person in the line up that looks like they're okay with taking the beating. If anything, Negan would make sure it isn't that kind of person, because he'd get more gratification in having that kind of person watch. I don't think it is Maggie or Glenn, because they were the only ones with a big emotional response, and Negan said "the first one's free" and he'd let it slide. I don't think it is Eugene, because they tried too hard to give him a send off, with the hugging Abraham, and the sad music as he climbed into the RV.

That only leaves Rosita, Michonne, Daryl, and Aaron. Killing Rosita and Aaron at this point would be a bitch move, because nobody REALLY cares about them, and if they are actually killing a "major character", Rosita or Aaron would be a total cop-out. So that brings me back to Daryl and Michonne, and between the two of them, I think Michonne is toast.
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Would /tv/ let Negan Lucille their stinky dinky boipussy?
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>>67913716

You can see a structural piece of the van running up the left-hand side wall and across the ceiling, but you don't get the right-hand side of this, so it is leaning more to the passenger's side.
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>>67913817
literally impossible it would be Michonne.
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>>67913886

And why is that? The first-person shots seemingly indicate it may very well be her.
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>>67913964
I think he's trolling. I have no doubt it's Glenn or Daryl.
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>>67913964
Aww man.
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>>67913817
>if anyone tries anything, cut out the boys other eye and feed it to the father
>boy
Meaning Aaron
>father
Meaning Gabrielle who was kidnapped off screen
Rick gets the bat and Carl tries something which causes Aaron to lose an eye and Gabe to eat it
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>>67913994
>Daryl
Lol
Never gonna happen.
He'll outlive Rick.
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>>67913964

>Kirkman regretted kill Abe off in the comics, saying he had so much to explore about him left
>kills him two episodes later

Nah, I don't buy it
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>>67913865
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>>67904559
>very little filler
KEK
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>>67914144
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Fan of the comics and TV show until this episode. Probably never going to bother keeping up with this show again and will talk shit about it to everyone I know.

Just Jew writing. Nothing more Jewish. Ratings ratings ratings.
Fuck kirkman too that fat sell out fuck.
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>>67914335
>will talk shit about it to everyone I know.
Believe it or not but people don't want to hear some autist cry about how much he hates The Walking Dead, Star Wars VII, etc. Save yourself the embarrassment.
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>>67914214
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>>67912166
This is actually well thought out but the problem is TWD's writers don't give a flying fuck about attention to detail so your speculation is pointless.
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>>67905147
at least she has to do nude stuff now to stay relevant kek
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>>67913401
>b-b-but europe >:'(

lmao every time
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>>67913952
>muh pov

you're reading too much into it. michonne also just got her own video game, she's cash cow 2.0.
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