>DCucks BTFO!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZdcBjwrkl4
This meme is as boring as fuck
>>67854541
>Reddit tomatoes
the faggotry is strong with this post
>bvs might not even pass Deadpool
Holy fuck this is hilarious.
>hello darkness my old friend starts playing
At this point I believe people are just bashing it to fit in. It wasn't perfect but you'd have to be retarded to think there haven't been worse capeshit released in the last 5 years.
>>67854829
To be fair not many films this year will. Finding Dory might, Captain America will, Suicide Squad could if it gets great reviews
>>67854920
Should have said 10 years, bro.
>>67854850
What does this child's drawing mean, kid?
And look at how much last year's biggest movies made a profit. BvS may not even do that.
http://deadline.com/2016/03/universal-pictures-disney-most-profitable-movies-2015-star-wars-minions-jurassic-world-data-1201727739/
Leave quality to us LMAO
>>67854870
>go back to /r/movies you cunt
>Batman vs Superman is too a head of his time
In the future you will see your errors marvelcucks
>tfw it's one pathetic marvel cuck spamming these threads
Pathetic, I will never be THAT insecure
>>67854541
DC or Marvel fans, the respective companies don't give a shit about you, they care about money.
You are nothing to them but a willing wallet, stop defending them and do something else with your life.
>>67855959
I think these threads have more to do with making fun of the insufferable anons who believed BvS would be the best capeshit film ever, and less about defending companies.
>>67854725
>mark strong as lex luthor
I orgasmed. Was he actually considered at some point?
>>67855656
>Implying their is anything wrong with power rangers
>>67854541
>some websites score determines my taste of film
yeah reddit is down the hall to the left
>>67855947
You already lost because you're insecure enough that you posted this.
>>67855656
Looks pretty good tbqh senpai
>>67855947
Kek, you're the 1.jpg guy. You can't go any lower than that.
>>67855656
>implying you don't want to fuck the yellow suit
>>67854541
Haven't seen BvS. But that's a pretty big discrepancy between Professional Critics and the audience. Ill assume film critics/media sites weren't "properly" compensated for good reviews.
>>67858102
But in reality, BvS get 98% with 100k votes even before it was out in America.
>>67858102
Basically what >>67858386 said.
About 100k audience reviews were out even before the movie got its wide release, so really what you're looking at here, is half the reviews being "I liked it!" before it came out, and the rest, the other half soomehow dragged it down to 70%, which means if we assume everyone who rated it after it came out rated it honestly, then the real rating is somewhere under 50%
>>67858386
I wouldn't say that. I doubt BvS is the greatest film of all time. It's cape shit for fucks sake.
>>67854920
I'm bashing it because I dream that capeshit finally dies
before it's too late
>>67855947
At this point I'm expecting it to result to "SOMEONE WENT TO TAKE A PISS DURING BATMAN V. SUPERMAN. DC BTFO!". Just wait until Civil War, it's going to get even worse.
>>67855656
Jungle Fury is actually really underrated imo.
>>67854829
DP got 750million total, BvS is already past the 700million mark.
would you like to take back your retarded statement now?
>>67858785
DELETE THIS
>>67858721
if Jungle fury gets one thing right the original didn't it's the penguin chick
>>67858723
DP didn't have a 410 mil budget either.
>>67858785
Absolutely savage.
>>67858785
name the villain in Iron Man 3 without calling him "the mandarin"
name the substance the villain uses to empower himself
name the scientist Rebecca Hall plays
>>67858785
Well see Iron Man 3 is the third installment in a beloved franchise while BvS is the first movie in the Batman vs. Superman franchise so people don't know what to expect. they don't know the characters so a better comparison would be between this and Iron Man 1.
>>67858893
You make an excellent point.
BatmanVSuperman is worse than an entirely forgettable flick.
>>67858893
Killian, extremis, cunt
>>67856139
>insufferable anons who believed BvS would be the best capeshit film ever,
It is.
>>67858897
>batman and superman together for the first time
>compared to a literal who
>>67858893
Name one of Zods henchman
>>67858897
BvS is the second installment after MoS
>>67858954
>mfw Spider-man 3 is better than BvS
B R A V O Z A C K
>>67859055
Why isn't it called Mos2 then?
>>67858971
Well Iron Man isn't a literal who he was in 2 Iron Man movies before the thrid and in the first Avengersmovie. BvS was in no movie before this.
>>67859157
>Well Iron Man isn't a literal who
He was when IM1 came out.
Read what I was replying to.
>>67858971
>iron man
>literal who
>>67859219
>reading comprehension
>>67858971
Nigga, understand this:
Marvel knows the formula for the perfect blockbusters. They can place any character there that people will eat up because the story beats are always the same.
It's also much easier to sell a new and repetitive character than to sell a different take on beloved character. People are much more open for the former than the latter.
>>67859215
But I guess a lot of people haven't heard about Batman and Superman since they have no movies that established that universe so it would be fair to compare them to Iron Man who nobody knew existed before the first Iron Man movie.
>>67859324
This. I'm not arguing the Marvel movies are bad, what I'm arguing is that they are movies in plural. It's the same shit over and over. The people defending BvS may not be smarter per se but sure enough the marveldrones have to be the dumbest capeshiters
>>67859157
>>Well Iron Man isn't a literal who
He was a C-list hero that nobody on the mainstream knew about and the /co/ hate it because "muh civil war".He was also portrait by a then C-list actor trying to recover his career after drugs and shit.
And even will that iron man was able to get 600+ million WW in 2008 having to compete with The dark knight without 3D or imax tickets and without china pushing the sales as much as now.
Iron man and RDJ may be top 1 hero/actor in the mainstream right now but lets not pretend BvS is in the same situation that iron man was.
>>67859014
Really?
>>67859063Spider-man 3 was GOAT though, you're high-balling BvS way too much.
>>67859520
Iron Man is also an unknown character so people had no expectations or bias other than wondering if RDJ will be able to finish the movie without having another episode.
BvS star three characters that everybody know and love, and people have some really fucked up and intense notion about how they should be portrayed. The expectations were a lot higher.
That's the difference here. For example if The Amazing Spider-Man had been the first Spider-Man movie ever the critics and audience would have been a lot more lenient with the movie. But since it was a reboot people were a lot more picky about the movie.
>>67859157
>Why isn't it called Mos2 then?
I was blind, and now I can see!
Clearly "For a Fistful of Dollars" and "For a Few Dollars More" are not the same franchise.
Neither is Once Upon a Time In Mexico and Desperado!
How blind I was!
>>67859624
>you're high-balling BvS way too much.
How? All I said was it's better.
>>67855029
When are you planning on finally killing yourself?
>>67858723
Was DP also rated PG13?
>>67859520
Franchises get tired too, see what happened with Spiderman. There are like 7 batman movies the last ones being not 10 year old and everybody was sick of Superman too when MoS happened. The movie is good, you're a pleb, let's move on
>>67858785
Shitty Iron-Man vs Superman, Batman, Wonder-Woman? Not only that but the third Iron-Man movie as well.
>>67859697
I guess you believe Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are the same franchise.
>>67859803
>the PG13 meme
Being rated R was marketing for the flick, it made more money this way
>average critic score 5
average audience score 3.7
>critic score rotten
>audience score good
how fucking retarded is this website?
>>67859708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD6qtc2_AQA
That's kind of the definition of high balling.
Giving a very high estimate.
Say, someone throws a ball 50 yards, and you say it flew somewhere under 100. That's highballing, while saying it flew over 5 is lowballing the estimate, because it's a true statement, but it's greatly exaggerated.
The first implies that the throw as close to 100 yards, while the second implies it was only a little bit over 5.
You're saying BatmanVSuperman and Spider-Man 3 are of similar quality, since you wouldn't say something like "mfw Citizen Kane was better than BatmanVSuperman". That would be an understatement, that would be a clear highball. But so is Spider-Man 3.
>>67859859
The audience score was near 5/5 with 100k ratings before it got its wild release, so you need to substract roughly 100k 5/5 ratings to get the proper score.
Also
>Paying attention to a gauge for a movie in which literally anyone can vote
>ever
>>67858785
i hope someone keeps us posted
>>67859860
Well now i'm informed.
>>67858893
And besides still being forgetable. Ironman, a property that was relatively unknown in movies before 2008, has beaten a movie with two of DCs biggest heroes. Batman and Superman, who have always been in the spotlight throughout the decades.
That really says more about DC than it does Marvel.
>break box office records in the opening weekend despite being Easter
>"b-but it has d-dropped now it's over d-dcucks!!"
lmao
>>67859859
didn't quite take, has it
>>67859989
>breaks box office """"""""""records""""""""""
>>67859989
That's what happens when you open EVERYWHERE all at once.
They knew it was shit, and word would get around fast.
>>67856399
Exclusive: Zack Snyder Wants Mark Strong As Lex Luthor For Man of Steel 2
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-zack-snyder-wants-mark-strong-lex-luthor-man-steel-2
http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/mark-strong-to-play-lex-luthor-in-man-of-steel-sequel/316213
http://screencrush.com/mark-strong-lex-luthor-man-of-steel-2/
>>67859859
>critic score x/10
>audience score x/5
Math isn't your strong suit is it?
>>67858102
Having actually seen it... it was alright.
I don't think it's deserving of the abysmally low score it's got, but it certainly wasn't the great film it was hyped up to be.
There's some good scenes and concepts, but the product as a whole is... I dunno, C? C+?
>>67860042
>>67860046
>this marvelcuckery
>>67854850
>>67854541
>it's another /co//v/eddit thread
>Mr1.jpg trying to save face after being BTFO
>>67860209
IM3 made 786 million worldwide by this point.
Reminder that it isn't actually as bad as the old capeshit movies. It's just the effect of inflation, nothing is interesting anymore unless the rating is either skyhigh or at rock bottom. Whenever you feel the slightest disapointment you instantly go for a low score. In this case it's even more relevant cause it's a blockbuster movie that everyone is dying to express their flashy opinion for.
Kinda like how a movie/game needs to have at least 95% to be considered good these days, you know, like the 4chan rating-scale?
I'm not even defending the movie, i'm literally pissed and think Znyder deserves what he got for not actually making it Batman VS Superman, but in no way is it Fantastic Four-tier
>>67859966
Iron Man was a new character to the audience and the story beats of his movie his designed to please the audience. There's nothing that can offend the audience.
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are wildly known and loved characters. The audience have clear ideas of how they should be treated based on their nostalgia. Not to mention that people are already tired of Superman and Batman movies.
>>67860236
Thanks, senpai. Got some new ones to add to my pasta.
Daily Reminder. DC Fans are full of goalpost moving, denial battered housewifes that can't admit their savior is a hack and that BvS was shit, critically and success wise.
Before the release of BvS
>It will be the Dawn of Capekino.
>Marvel is going to get BTFO.
>"It will be a philosophical political drama that explores mankind's need for hope and the dangers of absolute power".
>Zack Snyder will deliver... In Zack Snyder we trust.
>People loved it, received a standing ovation.
>It's being called the next Dark Knight
>Literally EVERYONE loved it!
After the release of BvS
>Critics don't matter, they're paid off by marvel and/or just have a skewed view since they're so used to Marvel movies they can't appreciate true CAPEKINO!
>Just look at the user score, fans obviously love the movie.
>Citizen Kane and 2001 also had mixed reviews when they came out!
>Its deeper and smarter than people think, too much for Marvel fans.
After 1 week of the release of BvS
>Reviews don't matter, fans love it and it will still beat out Avengers.
>It will still beat out Ironman 3.
>Its going to break a billion.
>I-its making more than Ant-Man and Captain America, g-guys.
>Avatar had a slow build up too!
>People just don't understand the genius of this film.
>It came out on Easter Weekend, g-guys that's why there's an 81% drop off in Box Office numbers. It doesn't mean anything!
>Suicide Squad will turn things around, g-guys I p-promise!
>It takes multiple viewings to really get the underlying theme guys and symbolism of this """"""""film"""""""
...
>>67855959
That's alright. I'm just more happy to give my money to Marvel instead of DC. Marvel films are well worth of my time.
>>67859482
Actually, I find the DC fans a lot more sufferable. They have their head so far up their ass that they think that BvS is one of the best movies ever.
>>67859569
Name another that's not Faora.
Also, name the comic that Man of Steel is inspired by.(for the record Iron man 3 was also based off a comic storyline
>>67855947
>the guy who spammed "Man of Steel is good" and "Batman v Superman will be capekino" meme threads thinks he isn't pathetic
>MUH IRON MAN 3
what about the Thor movies or even Winter Soldier, BvS outgrosses them by a mile
>>67860794
>moving goalposts
>>67860864
...nope
Also fuck you Winter Soldier is miles ahead of BvS
>>67860794
>Also, name the comic that Man of Steel is inspired by
John Byrne's Man of Steel, John Byrne's World of Metropolis, Mark Waid's Birthright and Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman, Geoff Johns' Secret Origin.
>>67860904
I'd say the same of you
>>67860927
Close but you are missing the most obvious one.
>>67860943
I'm not even the guy you replied to the first time you skank
>mfw
>>67860794
>Name one of the unnamed villain grunt characters in the film
>When most people can't remember named main villains in Marvel films
>>67860975
Which one?
>>67860927
Besides one quote, there's nothing in Man of Steel like All Star Superman.
>>67854920
I mean it's not as bad as Fant4stic but that's about all I'll give it
>>67854541
I went to see it again yesterday. Liked it even more on my second viewing. It isn't perfect, but it was very good in my opinion.
>>67860794
Jax-Ur and Nam-Ek.
>>67860831
>>67857689
>>67857950
literally the same autistic manchild FAGGOT
>>67861067
there's absolutely no way you remember those names just from the movie. I don't even think Namek was even mentioned on screen.
>>67861012
Figure it out. It's the one superman comic, in recent years, that was literally made to be adapted cinematically.
>>67861009
Loki. Whiplash. Malekith. Iron monger. The Red Skull. Crossbones.. Thanos.
i love watching you marvel and dc fuck niggs go @ it. i will say this movie was more interesting then the last 3 marvel movies ive seen tho.
>>67854541
Yesterday I saw Antman for the first time again, since I saw it in theatres. It just reminded me of all the funny parts that BvS or MoS never had, and future DC movies never will have. Its little things like
>my days of stealing shit are done what is next
>i want you to go inside and steal some shit
or the mexican dude with the "so me and ignacio are in this exhibit and there this girl fine and she says she knows so and so" part. The only movie that may have this is Suicide Squad. But that's been Marvels appeal to the general audience.
>>67861140
I do because i love Superman. Jax-Ur has been appearing a lot lately in the comics so his name is fresh in my mind and i know that the only giant kryptonian there is Nam-Ek. He did illegal experiments with those Ranxor beasts and became HUEG.
>>67861171
I honestly doubt that MoS was based on Earth One.
>>67861220
daily reminder, you had more emotional attachment for the ant he rides than for Superman.
>>67861171
Oh yeah, I totally believe you that you didn't just look online for those.
The only Marvel villains people remember are Loki, because he's the only decent one, Ultron because his name is in the title, Red Skull because it's literally what he is, and Thanos because he's in a bunch of sequel bait. No casual viewer remembers the name of Malakith, Ronan, Whiplash, they're all too generic and forgettable.
>>67861220
But those where the worst part. What are you 16?
>>67861064
BvS>AoU>Ant Man
I love it that there are plebs that think BvS is good. Just the dream sequences alone make it a terrible movie. Screenwriting 101 teaches writers that dream sequences are some of he laziest hackneyed stuff you can write.
>>67861368
Yeah, no.
>>67855656
>Power Rangers were created by nips imitating western superhero costumes
>"LOL THIS SUPERHERO LOOKS LIKE A POWER RANGER"
Weebs are fucking cancerous.
>>67855959
Autism the post
>>67861220
But the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger and spare us all your faggotry.
That Mexican dude from Ant Man was so cringe worthy if I cringed any harder my face would have imploded.
>>67861411
Ant Man was better than Age of Ultron, but that's about the only change that should be made.
>>67854920
At this point I think you're pretending to like it to fit in. You want to feel special, feel like you were a part of a huge event. But you werent. BvS is a mess.
why are people surprised marvel is blowing dc the fuck out ?
being a 80's baby marvel consistently outsold dc in comics only natural that marvel movies do better now since we're grown with disposable incomes.
get over it dcucks we have and always will outnumber you. a fucking darkhawk movie would do better than the flash movie get rekt this isnt the 50's no one gives a shit about superfag and bathack
>>67859324
Thor 1 and MOS were almost the same story. the superman one seemed more legit as its the same story as the old ones. Marvel films are like popcorn, tasty but dont actually fill you up as its mostly air.
>>67862525
except the Thor movies are hot garbage, so if a Superman film is only slightly better than that, then its still fresh garbage.
>>67861808
Nolan had a good run but he is not a talentless hack like Snyder
>>67858893
Aldrich Killian
Extremis
Maya Hansen
But tell me why one movie being forgettable makes a different movie less shitty?
>>67855161
>Hollywood accounting.
The Tolkien estate was guaranteed 7.5% of the gross from the Lord of the Rings films but they received nothing. According to New Line the films never made a profit.
>>67862789
>one good movie carried by muh dead ledger meme
good run he saids
>>67854541
Keep in mind that there were 120k fraudulent user reviews before the movie even came out (at 75% score) so the real user score is around 60%.
>>67858893
Aldrich Killian (or if you are referring to Ben Kingsly Trevor Slattery)
Extremis
That one I don't remember.
>>67859014
Fiona
>>67862891
>implying Begins is bad
TDKR some like it, some dont (I love it) but Begins is undeniably good
>>67854725
If only
>>67859063
>We will never get to see more of Raimi's capekino with based Tugboat Mcguire
jdimsa
Fact: Antony getting shot in Ant-Man was more emotionally affecting than any death in BvS.
>>67863247
It really is amazing how no one gives a shit a bout Superman's "death".
Literally I've heard no one talking about it. No one cares.
>>67861368
>AoU better than anything
Don't think so Tim
>>67863984
They would care if they didn't show he will resurrect in the very movie he dies.
It still wouldn't be emotional, but people would care.
>>67863984
Because everyone knows he will be back for the next movie
>>67864117
>>67864197
Now that's what I call poor flick-making
>I argue about which videogame console is better online
>I argue about which comic book publisher is better online
>I am almost 30 and still life at home with my parents
>they are starting to hate me
>I am still a virgin
>>67854541
I wonder how many ratings this movie gets from people who haven't watched it?
>>67854541
>Matthew Vaughn directing World's Finest
Fuck that would have been amazing
>>67857046
i hope someone was just staring at him here and not laughing
>>67854541
>defending audience scores of Thor movies, Age Of Ultron and Iron Man sequels
hey now, we can make fun of DC as much as we want but don't go full retard
>>67859482
Fucking hell THIS!
It was a bad movie all around. Even Warner Brothers knew it was after test screenings.
This is what happens when you re-write a movie to focus on a side character during the climax.
>>67861344
He really didn't i remembered the same plus Ronan minus Whiplash who wasn't really the villian of that film if you take Justin Hammer into account.
But you're right. Marvel is pretty mediocre with it's villains. However so is the DCCU at this point. Joker in SQ might be fun but Joker is always fun and pretty hard to do wrong. It's just a fantastic character.
GITESH MY SON
You are now aware that you live in a world, a terrifying world, where there are people right this moment who use terms such as "canon" and "cinematic universe" when talking about films and television shows.
A terrifying world where imagined characters on a screen are required, according to those who discuss them, to adhere to "ground rules" set out by the creators of said-characters. A terrifying world where those that discuss these characters and their actions, are actually enraged if said-characters deviate from the mannerisms expected of them, the mannerisms that may have initially been set in the pages of a comic book.
Think about that. A comic book. For children. Yes, pictures and words on the same page, which are meant to be read by children, that are actually read by adults who then bicker and express their frustration at film-adaptations of these comic books not being "faithful". Faithful to a comic book. That's supposed to be read by young children.
This is your world. This is the world of capeshit. Terrifying, isn't it?
>>67858893
Adrian Killich? Something like that
>>67854541
>le DC vs Marvel meme
the only reason DC movies have been good in the past is because of geniuses like Tim Burton, Jack Nicholson and Bravo Nolan. Actually, scrap Tim Burton and Jack Nicholson.
this was the last time I saw the rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
>>67862785
Oh i am not denying that at all, i personally think snyder being a hack is a major problem, and the fact nolan wrote the initial story just shows hes a one trick pony.
>>67854541
>caring about film critics
they're the pretentious faggots who gave Birdman an Oscar, need I say more?
>>67866815
I think the reason the plebs care about film critics is because they want their own opinion to be validated.
>>67866900
Makes sense. Also nice dubs.
>>67866987
TY BB.
Just saw it. Very tedious. My friend kept playing with his phone and falling asleep. 3/10
>>67860224
this
I love this movie because it has symbolism in it and lots of critics hate it, so it validates me as an intelligent misunderstood artist.
>>67866815
>>67866987
Oh BTW inb4 DC cuck, I didn't even watch the movie. I never gave Affleck a chance. And I'm pretty sure Bill Wilson isn't in the movie so there's really no reason for me to watch it.
Want to know a capeshit movie I'd watch? Patrick Batman.
>>67867025
yw
>>67867030
Youth today, ladies and gentlemen. That's why they don't understand the simplest of movies.
>>67866815
>Birdman
it was a good film, but because this is big boys reading and watching comic heroes thread you need a reference for damage control
>>67866557
and scrap Nolan
and good
>>67867151
I just used it as an example, and it was tedious.
>>67867155
Someone get this hothead outta here. Skip the after credits scene if you want to, it's mere Bane fanfiction. But Nolan is the man who gave us the plane movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFukKH7cv7I
>>67867151
BTW want a true Oscar deserving film which was awarded a few of them? Inception.
I don't even care for comics, the only ones I could be bothered to read were the Hotline Miami ones. They sometimes make great source material for movies sometimes though.
>>67859014
Pinky, Brain, and Larry.
>>67867294
this video, holy shit
>>67867147
Man people dressed like shit in the 80s
>>67858723
It was 750m on a 56m budget. BvS is 700m on a 250m budget + 150m advertising budget. It doesn't have any profits
>>67867475
The man has been baneposting before it became a thing.
>>67867539
Nice shit milennial taste. I wish I lived the era of legwarmers and neon clothing.
>>67867475
>>67867572
>Big Guy with a bat
>big guy
>bat
>>67859014
Nam-Ek
Faora
Ursa
Non
what would a porno directed by zack snyder, written by christopher nolan, and soundtrack by hans zimmer be like?
>>67867781
Was Non in the movie? I thought that Nam-Ek replaced him as a big guy.
>>67867825
BvS feat CIA
>we were right about it being trash
>we might be wrong about it passing 1 billion with no problem
this is weird
>>67867924
lots of big guys would be in it for sure
>>67867927
I don't remember this scene with Gadot in the movie
>>67863984
>mfw both times I saw the movie people started sniffling in the threatre
>>67867545
What was DP's marketing budget?
>>67867545
If you're going to be a retard and move the goalposts, would you care to give us the numbers on licensing deals and merchandising?
>>67867147
>patrick bateman capeshit movie
Would be like a horror right? who do you want to direct?
>>67867825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3jR_9oW3Lk
>>67868340
Hurr, bravo nolan of course. And the lack of the "e" isn't trivial. It's "Patrick Batman".
>>67854541
>51M second weekend
Holy shit, it's fucking over. WB on permanent suicide watch. Can't wait for them to get BTFO by Civil War later this month.
Say something positive about the DC cinematic universe
>>67868741
I like the alternate universe stories like flashpoint and red sun
>>67868741
I wanna fuck batman and superman's mothers
>>67868793
>>67868741
Oh CINEMATIC
TDKR gave us a funny meme
>>67867572
Now now, lets not be insulting the brilliance of bane posting with the annoying orange.
>>67868729
>in the US alone
>>67868741
i learned about at least six new shades of brown and grey
Superman movies never do well why are all surprised.
>>67869169
>Superman movies never do well why are all surprised.
Because it's Superman AND Batman.
it blows my mind people care about this shit
>>67869300
me too, it's like people caring about tickets sold. There are true masterpieces that were a commercial flop. See "To live and die in LA" for example.
>>67869217
Fighting wow dumb is that.
>>67868325
But it's true if you're not retarded
>>67854827
Funniest since WB owns Rottentomatoes
>>67869653
it;s over DC is finished
>>67858897
>BvS is the first movie in the Batman vs. Superman franchise
lol, nah that ain't happening now.
>>67858971
>compared to a literal who
>the first movie after the Avengers, a movie that was the very first of it's kind is a literal who even though he was in Avengers
k
>>67869653
>>67858971
>Iron Man
>Literal who
Iron Man has always been Popular. He even had his own cartoon, video games, and then he got his own movies.
>>67869796
>He even had his own cartoon
Yeah, as one half of a full TV show, backed with Fantastic Four. Even the fucking Hulk got a TV all to himself.
>>67869145
>cant handle the truth
Calm yo tits faggot.
>>67869796
>Iron Man has always been Popular. He even had his own cartoon, video games, and then he got his own movies.
he was a d-lister before rdj. general audience didn't know who the fuck he was.
You are all big huge meanyhead buttholes.
>>67860372
>Citizen Kane/ 2001 = BvS
Come the fuck on, people were not saying shit like that right? R-right?
>>67869963
>Read that as meaty buttholes
Sexy.
>>67868925
and BvS still made less money this last weekend than Zootopia did which has been out a month longer. It's a shit movie stop trying to defend it
Starting the MCU with Iron Man, Thor, and Cap as foundational pieces would be like if DC started a cinematic universe with Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, and Blue Beetle. DC gets to work with characters everyone in the movie-going market knows. There's no excuse for a movie with Batman, Superman, Lex Luthor, and Wonder Woman to not do Avengers numbers.
>>67869916
>Iron Man
>D-Lister
confirmed for faggot who knows nothing.
>>67871835
>It's a shit movie stop trying to defend it
It's not a shit movie, friend.
>>67873265
>There's no excuse for a movie with Batman, Superman, Lex Luthor, and Wonder Woman to not do Avengers numbers.
Lack of cinematic buildup unlike the marvel movies. The marvel movies all had multiple films to build upon their characters and garner a big fanbase. The DC movies don't have this.
>>67859063
the spider series is better than anything marvel movie factory has put out though.
>>67854541
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>>67866679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2K1cm0Qvck
>>67854725
What makes Matthew Vaughn a good choice? He's okay but nothing exceptional in any way.
>>67867825
Unbearable. Missing the point of its existence. Overwrought. Pretentious and taking itself far more seriously than something from its genre should.
>>67861570
Ant man was better than BvS
>>67854725
this had me more emotionally involved than the entirety of BvS
>>67870894
You are a bad person
>>67854920
First it was going to be an amazing movie, the first capeshit movie to transcend capeshit
Then it was just a capeshit movie, but still the best capeshit movie ever made
Then it became "It's just meant for fun!"
Now it is literally being defended by saying there are worse movie out there
I would pity the DC fags if they hasn't shit posted for months in advance
>>67860478
>Marvel films are well worth my time
>>67861257
MoS' plot it almost completely identical to Earth One though.
>>67879203
Marvel films probably are worth his time.
>>67861808
>implying the most well respected and influential story-arcs don't come from DC.
>implying all cape movies aren't shit.
>implying that the DCCUvMCU war isn't just a reboot of the old comic fanboy wars, just rebooted for normies because readers stopped being aurusts and started reading both.
>>67866316
Comicbook aren't exclusively made for kids you fucking retard.
>>67858893
Trevor and Aldrich Killian
Extremis
Maya Hansen
>>67858971
well thats th epoint, a literally who has better sales than the crossover of the most know superheroes
>>67877806
>Bad as in sexy bad
Yes i am anon
Yes, you can love me long time anon
Yes you can touch my butt :P
>>67879284
kek.
>>67874278
Marvel needed to do that because it was working with relatively unknown characters. Do people really need to familiarize themselves with Batman and Superman? If Marvel had the rights to X-Men, Spider-Man, and Fantastic Four they would've just pushed Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Hulk vs Magneto and Dr Doom.
How in the FUCK is WB going to let Snyder direct Justice League after this? This movie isn't just underperforming on its own, it might wind up killing all the DC movies. Now all those other movies are going to have to fucking apologize and do damage control for this movie.
You can already hear it with Aquaman's director repeatedly talking about how "fun" his movie is going to be. Warner Bros wanted this to excite people but all it's done is make them angry.
How do you not fucking get rid of Snyder after this? You can't risk him ruining Justice League, that could literally kill the DC movie universe. Boot his ass out, delay the start of production until summer, and find a new director. Has to be done.
It's because DC always try to break records. They also have a higher rated user score than any Marvel movie
>>67854920
idk, what year did Batman and Robin come out?
>>67855875
>trying to recreate general "gritty" tone and "depth" that Nolan perfected in 2008
>trying to copy the expanded universe model that Marvel perfected in 2012
>ahead of its time
>>67879203
>>67879284
Thats right bro. Consider Marvel over Suicide (squad)
>>67861344
Look bro.
I remembered Whiplash because he was the only dude who could replicated the Iron Man technolgoy. He's a nobody in the comcis, but in the movie, they made him interesting.
I remember Malekith because fuck yeah Dark Elves. When was the last time you saw an Elf on scnreen that was not in LotR? THOUGHT SO. And its a Dark Elf. And Space Dark Elf, like the Dark Eldar.
Iron Monger I remember because of Jeff Bridges aka the Dude.
Crossbones was a bad motherfucker who I really want tos ee die, but he won't die yet. Also he was in the Winter Soldier.
And Red SKull? I mean seriously. This was the poster boy for the Nazi side during WW2. And he was Cap's equal in his movie. ANd his longest nemesis in the comcis.
So fuck you: I remember the MCU well enough that I remember all those villains. I'm pretty sure even a nromie, who ahd seen all the MCU, can at least remember the Red Skull or WHiplash
>>67861257
>>67879244
It pretty much is the same as Earth One. A lot of elements of MoS take from Earth One, as well as Superman 2. Of course, one of the major changes was replacing the villain with Zod, but I think it worked for the better by giving Clark a villain who was an equal in strength.
>>67881333
Trips for truth!!
Normies just want fun action movies to get away from their dayjobs and family.
Losers want deep and philisophical movies because they live in a fantasy and have unfulfilled jobs.
>>67882298
>Losers want deep philisophical [sic] movies
That's some bait mate
>>67881333
it was actually almost completely opposite what Nolan aspired to convey.
It's hard for marvel people to understand this because their movies have no style altogether.
>>67882852
Except Snyder didn't pull it off.
Its hard for DC people to understand this because they will defend their lacklustre movies no matter what
>>67883246
all of it seemed good to me. maybe some of the metaphor was beyond you. a lot of it is rooted in classicism and mythology.
>>67883311
*sigh* Nice dubs btw.
Look bruh. Thor is also rooted in classicism and mythology. The Norse epics. The fights with the jotun. The old speech.
Its why I like to compare MoS to Thor. For what it is, both Thor and MoS work. The Thor film revisits the Norse mythology and implements it in its movie, and even the design of Asgard is a homage to the design aesthetic of Jack Kirby. Likewise, MoS had such simialr homages. To the old American ideals that young Kent was raised on. The birth analogies some anons have pushed. There's a lot to take from MoS, and I do think, for MoS, it worked.
But BvS... it just fails. And no, I'm not going to fault Snyder. I don't think he's the problem. No, BvS fails because, a lot of the ideas it puts, which sounds nice on paper, just don't work for the average audience and viewer. You can tell me the symbolism of Lois Lane dropping the spear in the water, then going to get it back again but, to the audience, it still looks Lois acting really, really dumb.
>>67882852
>it was actually almost completely opposite what Nolan aspired to convey.
It's an extension of the trend that Nolan started dipshit. 2008, he made TDK and blew everyone's minds, and Fox and DC have tried their damnedest to recreate the general components based on the TDK precedent. Gritty, dark, "adult," heavy focus on symbolism and subtext, etc etc.
The only place where Snyder is actually doing stuff that Nolan didn't already do, are for Snyder's generally-horseshit cartoon cgi bullshitfests. It's still the exact same formula that Nolan pioneered 8 years ago, except this time made by a /fit/ faggot hack.
>It's hard for marvel people to understand this because their movies have no style altogether.
I'm not a "marvel person." I've always been a DC person. Defending Snyder's garbage shows exactly how much of a corporate club faggot you are. You don't understand the comics, and certainly don't understand filmmaking, and you come on these boards defending horseshit because it's the only way to get people to talk to you.
>>67858721
It was probably one of my favorite seasons. Time Force too.
>>67883246
>wah wah wah people like things!!
>>67883761
>>wah wah wah someone doesn't like what I like!!!
>caring about superhero films
Yikes
>>67869492
i have no stake here, but the original post was "might not even pass" which i would guess refers to revenue, but nobody can really argue if it should mean profit or revenue
either way DP is outperforming its expectations while BvS is underperforming
>>67883519
>Look bruh. Thor is also rooted in classicism and mythology. The Norse epics. The fights with the jotun. The old speech.
only superfically though. that's the main difference. thor has a hammer and the people are named after the Gods. The rest is mindless plot and action.
this actually had characters with timeless motivations.
>>67883581
>Gritty, dark, "adult," heavy focus on symbolism and subtext, etc etc.
you could say the same thing about tim burton's batman. it's not novel nor illegitimate to have actually bad intentioned characters. rational ones at the same time.
>>67863247
It wasn't exactly hard to do either.
It was just one part of a montage where we see Paul Rudd treat an ant as he would a beloved dog.
>movie comes out
>bombs with critics
>"box office and user scores are all that count!"
>proceeds to bomb the 2nd week of the box office
>"user score is all that matters"
>user score tanks below any MCU movie
>"Rotten Tomatoes doesn't matter"
What damage control will they pull next?
>>67868741
They didn't make Doomsday talk.
>>67884563
MoS maybe. But not BvS.
And yes, dick waving and who has the bigger cock is a timeless motivation. Being told you're weak and wanting to beat up a stronger bully is also a timeless motivation. But it is a mindless one
>>67884662
None of that matters. This movie is timeless art, and even the expertly crafted visual poetry is being overlooked by all but those intelligent enough to realize how magnificent this singular cinematic event truly is.
>>67873265
>if DC started a cinematic universe with Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, and Blue Beetle.
That made me hard. They should honestly make an additional, completely separate cinematic universe to put all their less popular characters in they they will never get to. I guess that's what TV is for, huh.
>>67884563
Father-son issues are not mindless.
And hell, Thor was directef by Ken Branagh. KEN BRANAGH. The guy who did the most faithful film adaptation of Hamlet. While Snyder does style over substance pieces.
Admit: you are shilling for BvS because you are a fan. Or a contrarian. Either way I respect both.
>>67884563
>you could say the same thing about tim burton's batman.
What are you 14? Batman and Robin was the outcome of DC desperately trying to copy what Burton did.
Man of Steel was written by TDK trilogy writers, produced by Nolan, and is an overt attempt to give Superman the Batman Begins treatment. Both MOS and BVS copy Nolan character beats, Nolan structure, Nolan's gritty realism, dark real-world subject matter, and heavy thematic undertones. The problem is, that doesn't work that well when you have cartoony, cgi action sequences and characters with ridiculous powers. Most of the problems with MOS and BVS is that they try to copy something that A: was only good because it was well-helmed and well-written, and B: Doesn't work with characters like Superman.
They're trying to make Nolanesque movies in a Marvelesque cinematic universe and the end result so far is largely shit.
>>67884762
My one and big tits tell me that you are very serious
>>67884730
>Being told you're weak and wanting to beat up a stronger bully is also a timeless motivation. But it is a mindless one
it was more complicated than that.
bvs explored a few important cultural themes
democracy v. individual
power and its consequences
personal relationships and their scalability to institutional events
a lot of stuff
plus jesus metaphor, excalibur, greek mythology. it's not the same as thor having a hammer.
>>67884762
Ah yes, the "I'm smarter than you" defense. Liked by Megadeth fans as well.
>>67884762
Nobody is "overlooking" the "visual poetry." We all see it. It's just not really that impressive. It's generally pretty tryhard and concrete tbphwyf.
what exactly from the movie do you think of as "expertly crafted visual poetry?"
>>67884840
I don't understand your point. Burton was Batman. Burton was dramatic. So was Snyder. Nolan wasn't that heavily dramatic it was more visual than personal or thematically driven. If anything Snyder was a throwback to Burton but it's not the same thing, even though both are psychological.
>>67884762
doesn't matter man. Some people don't want to grow, some always want to. It's their loss.
>>67884880
>>democracy v. individual
Thor also had that. Only one son of Odin could become king.
>>power and its consequences
Again, Thor. Thor abused his power, and was banished for his recklessness. Loki also tried to wrestle for power in a devious way.
>>personal relationships and their scalability to institutional events
Father-son relationship that affects a monarchy. Thors love for Jane that reflects a bettet appreciation for lower beings and makes him worthy.
A lot of stuf, yes.
>>excalibur
Not in BvS
>>greek mythology
BvS didnt explore this. Perhaps Winder woman might.
>>67885048
>>>excalibur
>Not in BvS
>>>greek mythology
>BvS didnt explore this. Perhaps Winder woman might.
these were both explicitly mentioned and through metaphor.
lex talked about prometheus and superman is prometheus figure.
bruce's parents were seeing excalibur the night of the murder if i'm not mistaken. the kryptonite sword is a type of excalibur. louis layne diving to get the sword out of the water is related to king arthur if i'm not mistaken, something about the lady in the lake.
Who cares ?
>>67875567
Because Vaughn takes shitty source material and makes better movies out of them.
Kick-Ass was a piece of shit comic, that became a decent film.
Kingsman likewise.
He also got the X-Men out of their slump and made what was probably the most kino entry in their franchise.
The film wasn't great but it doesn't deserve the critical backlash it's receiving. There is much worse capeshit out there. However, this is subject to personal opinion.
>>67885198
>>lex talked about prometheus and superman is prometheus figure.
Okay this one I can grant
>>bruce's parents were seeing excalibur the night of the murder if i'm not mistaken.
Actually it was the mask of Zorro. But Snyder did show that Excalibur was also screened. It could have been either
>>the kryptonite sword is a type of excalibur.
The kryptonite weapon was a spear.
>>louis layne diving to get the sword out of the water is related to king arthur if i'm not mistaken, something about the lady in the lake.
And arthurian legend had Merlin to show Arthur the lake. NvS didnt.
I get what you are trying: its just weaker in BvS unlike MoS. If you like BvS for its portrayal of the DC character then fine. I cant stop you. And I do think people should see the movie to form an opinion.
But I think BvS fails.
Capeshit deserves no attention
>>67885976
>Actually it was the mask of Zorro. But Snyder did show that Excalibur was also screened. It could have been either
Excalibur was on the marquee, not a coincidence.
>he kryptonite weapon was a spear
>And arthurian legend had Merlin to show Arthur the lake. NvS didnt.
you're being too literal.
And there are still people on /co/ calling it great.
>>67886010
And I think BvS did not convey the symbolism effectively
>>67884840
>Batman and Robin was the outcome of DC desperately trying to copy what Burton did.
No, Schumacker was trying to replicate the 1966 batman tv show but had to use the aesthetics established by Burton for pretend continuity.
>>67886010
>Excalibur was on the marquee, not a coincidence.
The marquee said "this wednesday" underneath the name of the movie. The mask of Zorro poster said "now playing" on it.
>>67854541
Ikr, they can bash the critics all they want, the audience score doesn't lie
>>67867419
>sometimes sometimes
Inception was absolute dogshit
>>67854920
Is it as bad as Fantastic 4? Lord no, but I expected more from BvS plus just because it isn't the biggest steaming pile of shit doesn't mean it isn't a pile of shit.
>>67869796
Iron man was always a very high B lister but never an A lister.
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>>67879537
>these fags looked it up to not seem stupid on a Tibetan sand mandala fan forum
>>67859340
Nigga you what, Man of Steel was a prequel, all the hype around Affleck Bats, all the marketing. Two of the top3 best known superheroes of all time. Lot of people haven't heard, nigga you like what, like nigga what about Deadpool?
>>67880230
Using Arrow as a source of quality, unless you are talking about the quality of shit you're going to struggle to sell that one.
>>67861808
If not for fucking Bendis, if not for fucking Loeb, if DnA stayed on cosmic Marvel, eh, imagine
>>67856139
But it is the best, anon
>>67860372
Marvelcuck, shut up and eat shit.
If you would have been objective and actually watched the movie you'd have seen that it was a good capeshit movie, but your blind hate for everything DC doesn't allow you to see it.
I enjoyed many Marvel movies, but there is no denying that they are all almost the same. I welcome a change in the genre and MoS and BvS are exactly that.
If you are trying to convey a sense of tension it is hard to believe it when the characters are throwing quips every second sentence
>>67891439
Wrong, faggot.
I just watched it.
>>67892489
>DCucks mad because the DCEU is dead
>>67858723
Deadpool also had like a third the budget and was rated R
>>67892489
>everyone who sees how shit BvS is must be DCcuck or paid by Disney
>change equals quality
>this movie has "tension"
>this movie has grace
>this movie has a funny face
>>67861368
I think AoU should be at the very end there, friend
>>67863984
>implying his sacrifice to save the world wasn't emotional
Faggot, if nobody talks about it it's because they showed in the movie that he'll be back
>>67867030
You and your friend are pathetic
>>67878235
>Implying Marvelcucks were not saying exactly the opposite all along
>>67892905
You are a mad DCuck.
>>67854781
not a meme friendo. Movie is one of the biggest dumpster fires in contemporary movie history.
>>67854920
>there haven't been worse capeshit released in the last 5 years.
with that hype?
with that money behind it?
with those names and that studio and that marketing?
no, it wasn't
>>67855656
hey that looks fun!
BvS wasn't fun or deep or well edited.
>>67856139
well said anon
