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What went wrong?
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Writing, directing, casting and acting. Welcome to the internet.
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>>67792188
adding superman and wonder woman to the movie.
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>>67792188
Making the movie too smart for viewers.
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Nothing. It's capekino in its purest form. This is the objective truth.
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>>67792227
But it was Superman's movie!
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It was a superman movie without superman.
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>>67792188

>batman has facial hair

when did this happen?
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Its a movie made by a manchild for low IQ man chilren that who is also trying to imitate actual artists
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The world wasnt ready for KAPECINO
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if they cancel all the movies we wont get to see amber heard as black canary
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>>67792308

did zack snyder fuck your mom or something?
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>>67792278
>capekino
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>bad writing
>bad editing
>moody and dark
>It happened again plot
>Martha
>batman kills like there's no tomorrow
>supes is an asshole
>lex
>in short pretty much everything
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>>67792188
jewess
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>>67792465
Who let you out of your shed? Civil War doesn't release for another three weeks
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>>67792523
Why do zacks fans look like numales then?
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CAPUCCINO
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It's too fucking depressing and dark.
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>>67792206
There's nothing wrong with the "cooks" that are in the kitchen at the moment. It's just that, they have no idea what it is that they what to make.
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rushed, trying to catch up to marvel
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I liked it, a lot.

Just didn't like who they picked for wonderwoman.
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Why did they make Batman so beefy? I don't hate it but I don't know if I like it either
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>>67792551
>This is the average Baneposter
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>>67792667
Batman was always beefy, especially in his older days.

One thing that I hated about Bale's Batman is that he was skinny.
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>>67792413
She's Mera you dingus
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>>67792704
it's much worse my friend
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>>67792297
damn I thought this "Americans clapping" thing was a meme
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>>67792593
In my opinion, they have caught up to Marvel, but they are not smart enough to fuse the television show with the big screens.

If they made tv Flash and Green Arrow react to the events of MOS, that would be GOLD. No need for that cheap email introduction in BVS, the Justice League would have already been introduced to audiences through the tv series. But DC is dumb, so...
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>>67792811
>bringing felicity to the big screen
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I honestly can't wait for the wonderwoman solo movie
I really hope it happens, with her terrible acting and thick jewish accent
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>>67792551
Well anon?
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Too depressing for the average capeshit watcher.

As someone who doesn't like superhero movies, I must say that this movie was actually pretty good for a capeshit, 7/10.
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>>67792297
>clapping for a fucking bird
I really need to leave this country
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>>67792811
>it's a pleb complaining about his shitty soap opera TV shows not being in the films

Do everyone a favor and just kill yourself.
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>DCucks kept saying Ant-Man was going to flop and cause the MCU bubble to burst
>BvS actually kills capeshit movie genre
good job
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>mfw in every movie Batman has black makeup around his eyes
>mfw every time he gets unmasked somehow its gone
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>>67792188
>muh legs

That faggot ruined the whole movie
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>>67792188
not enough gal gadot spread legged panty shots
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>>67792188
Horrible director
Shit writing
Bad casting
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>>67793036
Correct.
False.
False.

At least you're 1/3 right.
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>>67792227
there's literally a million batman movies already, enough is enough. I DONT NEED TO SEE HIS GOD DAMN PARENTS DIEING FOR THE 5013957230572035th TIME
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>>67792282
This.
Should've been Superman vs Bryan Cranston and probably Metallo.
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>>67793069
>It's a "hindenburg was a good lex guize" episode
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>>67792904
>Too depressing for the average capeshit watcher.

Why would anyone want to watch an uplifting or fun movie about superheroes, right? Instead let's have a depressing political drama that falls apart halfway in favor of unnecessary massive destruction.
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>>67792465
Marvel is dead.
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This movie is painting a beautiful portrait of how many of you know nothing about the inner-workings of filmmaking. It's embarrassing.

Defending this anti-intellectual trash exposes you as a fraud masquerading as a "patrician" film buff. This film is awful. It's everything wrong with Hollywood. Its The Amazing Spider-Man 2 x10: shoving a bunch of shit into one movie just to desperately jumpstart something that attempts to resemble a coherent cinematic universe. Supporting this film is to support the downfall of high budget entertainment that doesn't treat it's audience like gaping fools that'll buy an admission ticket as long as CGI filmed fights are promised.

Stop saying this film is good. It's not. It's awful. The only positive is Larry Fong's cinematography. Everything else is a disgrace to the genre. Zack Snyder is a hack with frat boy sensibilities that can't even tell a story about what inspired him to become a filmmaker. This alone tells you everything you need to know. Even Ben Affleck knows this film is utter trash.

Denying this film's massive shortcomings is just going to pull you deeper into the pleb rabbit hole. Dig yourself out while you can, because you're starting to embarrass yourself and this board.
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>>67792888
Come on pleb
What are you scared of?
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>>67792979
That's what Marvel is going and no one seems to be complaining about that. The events of Infinity War is going to bring the cast of Agents of Shield, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and Luke Cage on to the big screens. When that happens, y'all gonna shit bricks.
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Can all you marvel plebs stick to your quipshit?
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>>67793069
You honestly think the writing in Batman vs Superman was good?
Also the casting was bad. Eisenberg as Lex was the biggest mistake the movie made. Gadot was also nothing special as WW.
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>>67793184

>uplifting
>fun

It's ok to destroy half of a megalopolis when you spout out one-liners and pop culture references, right? Get fucked, you cuck.
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>>67792206
Wrong.

Editing, then writing, then directing, then casting, then acting.
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>>67792667
so that cavill can be the bottom
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>>67793269
Why the fuck would anyone argue DC vs Marvel?

It's like arguing over whether it's more enjoyable being fucked in the ass or sucking cock.

Both capeshit and such sexual degeneracy are objectively terrible, unenjoyable and only justifiable due to our modern degenerate culture. Ultimately it doesn't matter whether you watch marvel or dc, or whether the cum ends up in your mouth or asshole.

You're a filthy degenerate for partaking in either.
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>>67793079
I'd take a good Batman movie over a mediocre Superman movie any day, and inside BvS exists a well done movie for only one of these three.
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>>67793316

If you're talking about Avengers, yeah that shit was bad too. I'm not a marvel fanboy a bad movie is a bad movie. BvS is a bad movie and so is half the trash by marvel.
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>>67793370
enjoy your rehash of a rehash of a rehash then you fucking pleb, there's a million batman movies go watch one
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>>67792188
The pleb audiences, including the bloggers, self proclaimed critics
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>>67792188
audiences are too dumb

the serious answer is that Marvel pretty much set the tone for how capeshit should be done so anything different from them is pretty much Satan raping your mother with your cock
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>>67792465
Guilty of all these.
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>>67792811
>Expecting people to watch capeshit tv shows

I'm getting tired of this garbage, I just want to see Snyder's Kapekino magnum opus and be done with it.
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>>67793420
>a million batman movies
There's 8 live action batman movies.
There's 6 live action superman movies.

That's not THAT much of a difference bro.

I am ignoring the serials of both, because let's be honest, even your parents are too young for those.
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>>67793401

Says the nigger with no grudge against Marvel. I know a fanboy when I see one. Nice try though.
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>>67793440
>They just want more quips
>90% of negative reviews are literally where's muh fun?
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>>67793540
>say half of marvel movies are trash
>must be a marvel fanboy

good detective skills anon
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>murdering jimmy olsen
>piss in a jar
>muh martha
>even more christ shit
>ruined superman for good
oh boy i can't wait for justice league
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>>67793268
No it's not you gullible fag.
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>>67793591
Exactly
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>>67793269
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>>67793618

I'm glad we agree. Choose the lesser half of Marvel movies to victimize and play it to the grave - you'll be a superstar! If you weren't such an angry retard, I'd be impressed!
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>>67793627
>murdering jimmy olsen
Considering the scene before his death was cut out, it made it so goddamn meaningless.
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>>67793627

Jimmy Olsen sucks dicks for quarters. Get over yourself.
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>>67793690
But Ant-man is AT WORST the 5th best Marvel movie, arguably the 2nd best of them all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fsw42prfp8

This is why Zack Snyder will direct Justice League
The studio forced him to make an awkward theatrical cut at the last minute. You can tell he's pissed off in this interview. The 3 hour cut would have reviewed better and made more money
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>>67793793
i don't think his version would be better.
his producer wife revealed the africa scene was more violent
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>>67792424
10/10 anon
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JUST
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>>67792188
That it wasn't the post-apocalyptic action movie that Batfleck invisioned throughout the whole duration of the film.

In all honesty the movie wasn't entirely bad, but the way the camera cuts and moves during the fight scenes at the end is too much.
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>>67793929
FUCK
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>>67793982
BRITBONG LIFE UP
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/stormblr%20/filename/1/
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/%2Fpol%2Fkold/filename/1/
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>>67793641
Captain America and the Punisher are as different as night and day. But, they believe in the same thing, Justice.
You don't think The Punisher is going to have a chat with Cap about Ironman and his "laws"? Come on, wake up. You need to see the bigger picture here.
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>>67793982
MY
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>>67794044
SHIT
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>>67794082
UP
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>>67793929
>>67793982
>>67794044
>>67794082
>>67794130

not tv-tier photography, they said
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>>67794082
>that ant-man suit
so fucking based
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>today in line waiting to buy tickets to zootopia
>guy behind me says to his friends "dude superman is fucking balding lmao"

I keked a lil bit
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>>67792188
>wah wah waah I don't like the thing!!!
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Nothing "went wrong".

It's 7.5/10
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Just watched Ant-Man

it was OK although by the end I was so sleepy, everything was kind of predictable at all-

in the same line, I didn't get sleepy at all in BvS so, just have to say I liked BvS way better but I understand how kids can like Marvel films in comparison to DC-

just a different approach-
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>>67794044
>>67794082
>>67794130

>tfw power rangers look more visually interesting than a marvel joint
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there was 1 joke in the whole movie.
after all the fight, death and shit 1 joke
>i'm friends of your son
>i figured, the cape
like... it was so fucking out of place, wtf.
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>>67794218
Agreed

Ant-Man is a 6/10
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>>67794254
Yeah, that was really awkward. A facial expression would have been enough.
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>>67793690
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>>67794044
Why does Marvel hate color so much?
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>>67794082
>>67793982
>>67793929

How does this happen?
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>>67794254
>>67794289

Right? She was about to be set on fire, was literally crying and begging, and then is throwing quips like nothing happened, it was so fucking weird
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The people behind this plan to film their next movie entirely in IMAX

Lol
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>>67794254
>it's okay martha. i tried to kill your son but now we're friends
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>>67792927
>Liberals
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it's a solid 7.5/10

don't exaggerate.
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>>67792188
directing
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>>67794466
What are some films in the last 5 years you would rate 10/10 or 9/10?
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This thread is full of buttblasted DCfags.

Post yfw Civil War ends up getting a 94% on RT and is heralded as the greatest capeshit film of all time bringing upon the dawn of REAL capekino.
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>>67794267
Should I watch it? Is it necessary to watch Civil War?
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>>67794823
company war shit out dog c'mon
do you really wanna do that
remember bvs hype and they fell right on their face
civil war might not even be that good
like really man
c'mon
c'mon dog
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>>67794360
>and then is throwing quips
Smh I guess she's a Marvel poster
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>>67794577
hello?????????????
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>>67792775
>Hol up is one guy
Finally someone else acknowledges this
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>>67794577
I'm not him, but since I give BvS the same rating, I'll answer Dark Knight
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>>67792297
look at all those cucks together, sickening
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>>67794991
JUST
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>>67794577
Not him either, but I also agree with his assessment. Off the top of my head: Foxcatcher, the Assassin, the Rover, Mr. Turner, Like Someone in Love
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The ending.
Don't think someone would realize that Clark is Superman due to them both dying and that fucking body in the casket in Smallville.
That or Maryha put his specs on his dead face.
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>>67795278
They don't figure out that Clark is Superman despite him looking exactly like him. When it comes to alternate identities, just turn your brain off.
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>>67792206
Only one role had an issue of casting and acting. guess correctly and you'll hear ding.
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>>67795445
he'll be more tolerable when he becomes an android called brainiac
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>>67795097
>>67795246
>I'm not him
Then fuck off
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>>67794367
so uncinematic, i can give BvS one thing. It looks nice.....that is about it.
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>>67795590
yeah it looks really good cant wait to get on bluray for that reason
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>>67795445
Lex
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>>67795590
>Marvelfag admits its a kino
Well that's a wrap, ladies and gentlemen
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>>67795445
>Only one role had an issue of casting and acting
Eisenberg and Cavil respectively
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>>67794130
>>67794082
>>67794044
>>67793982
>>67793929

I'm not invested in the company wars, but this shit is hilarious. How does this even happen?
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>>67793226
yeah I know right?
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>>67792188
It wasn't a light hearted adventure comedy made for dude bros and middle american cows.
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>>67795875
>caring about rotten plebmatoes
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>>67793243
the cinematography really was gorgeous 2bh
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>>67795918
Easy to say when you're on the losing side
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>>67795918
>2.4./5 on rym
>2.5/5 on mubi
>probably something low on lb
What happened pleb? Even the patricians agree BvS is trash
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>>67795971
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>>67795875
>DC has made 2 out of 2 good movies in their cinematic univers
>Marvel has made 2.5 good movies out of 12

Damn. Too bad DC will catch up now that the plebs rejected capekino and DC will invariably go full quipshit from now on.
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>>67795997
RotS is better than The Force Awakens. Your point?
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>>67795997
this was a good moopie
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>>67794381
You just know he fucked her later that night to "console" her for the dead son
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>>67795875
>>67795971

HAHA
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>>67796022
You're probably right.
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>>67796043
>it's a "let's go by the feminist reviews" episode
Of course the blacked strong womyn show will get good reviews. Look up Jessica Jones.
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>>67795985
>Even the patricians agree BvS is trash
>Brody, White, Smith

Actually, patricians love it, only the plebs hate it. As plebs always hate what they do not understand.
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>>67795997
i like this one. seriously, watch it again, is fun.
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>>67795997
Pure ĸinogrǣphï
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>>67796100
No, you're wrong
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>>67796031
RotS is garbage. Literally fucking garbage. And if Force Awakens is worse than garbage, yet still has a 90ish percent, I think that helps my point more than hurts it. So in short, eat a goddamn bag of big sweaty nigger dicks.
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>>67796043
>those audience ratings
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>>67796092
Easy to say when you're on the losing side, you turd blossom
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>>67792188
Look at how stupid aflack looks in that picture . What a fucking jerkoff
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>>67796100
>>caring about rotten plebmatoes
We're talking about normal people not critics as meme texted in the first post
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>>67792297
oh that was beautiful
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>>67796043
Marvel BTFO
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>>67795875
Those reviews didn't really stop anyone on opening weekend now did it?
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>>67796043
>muh 1 example to your 12
top lel
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>>67796148
Exactly, normal people are plebs, not patricians. Glad we are on the same page.
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>>67796182
No just the second weekend record drop :^)
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>>67792308
*insert random fedora pic*
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>>67796194
HAHAHA

I haven't even started
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>>67792297
>americlaps
just kidding I remember people in vatican city went nuts with a birp rested on the pope head
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>>67796034
Tf is this edited?
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>>67796197
So the "normal people" praising it here are plebs?
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>>67792297
poor bird just wants water
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>>67792188
Disney has too much sway in this business, it's pretty fucking disturbing. They literally made DC's flagship tank. Wtf. There no excuse to rate BvS any less than AoU, Thor etc..
I'm not a DC or Marvel fag, just enjoy capeshit as guilty pleasures. And judging by capeshit standards, BvS was top tier
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>>67792188
Editing, especially the final part.
Although, I still enjoyed the flick and seen it twice.
7/10 just because I'm DCuck, 5/10 if I remove two fanboy points.
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>>67796261
How does TDKR have better reviews than BB?
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>>67796334
Of course not, fellow patricians.
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>>67796401
But you just said normal people are plebs
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>>67796043
Rotten can't review TV shows. In other news: water is wet.
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>>67792251
this
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>>67795997
It dragged but it was an ok movie and best of the prequels
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>>67796437
Yes.
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>>67796489
I-it's not faiiirr
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>>67796394
It was a pretty good movie.
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>>67792188
Way too much shit jammed into the movie.

The reason Marvel can just show a character's face and a sliver of backstory in the ensemble shit is because they all had their own film(s) to show up in previously. By the time we get to Avengers, we already know every single one of them with the exception of the Hulk (unless you count the Norton one).

You can't just throw a bunch of shit in there that nobody will understand and call it good because it's loud and has a long run time--even if it was thankfully quip-fucking-free.
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>>67796548
So you're a pleb
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>>67796022

the reality of this post legit makes me sad.

DC could really do something special with their justice league movies with Darkseid as the big bad. I hope they don't shit can Snyder.
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>>67793002
This is actually reoccurring thing in almost all batman movies.
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>>67796596
Not as good as BB
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>>67796554
Why does that nu male look like charles?>>67792551
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When will you people realize that Metacritic is literally redpill: the website?
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>>67796617
No, I enjoyed the movie, with my fellow patricians.
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>>67796647
Rotten Tomatoes isn't law.
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>>67794254

good

like we needed anymore capeshit movies jam packed to the fucking gills with unnecessary "humor"
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>>67792297
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>>67796647
Why didnt CIA unmask the men before he put them on the plane? He didnt even pat them down was he really going to trust mosquito man that he was telling him the truth?
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>>67796620
Sadly they will. The studios always care about money, and they will likely go full into copy Marvel mode now.

Maybe we'll still have JL, since it's about to start and they can't change too much.
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>>67796709
For you
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>>67796708
You said normal people are plebs
You are a normal person
You are a pleb regardless of the critics you just picked up for this movie instead of being authentic and always using them.
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>>67792188
Batman fighting Superman was the low point of the movie.

That being said, I loved it despite its many problems.
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>>67792251
Fucking this. Critics failed this movie utterly, and they poisoned the viewing public against it.

It brings more to the table in one film than pretty much any cape movie outside of TDK, Unbreakable, and possibly "The Winter Soldier."
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>>67792297
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>>67796276
Deleted scenes.
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>>67796807

Unbreakable is still my favorite capeflick. I can't contain my tears when the pool scene comes on. You know the one.
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>>67796771
No sorry, I'm a patrician.
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>>67796886
>capeflick
>flick

Fuck off, it's so far beyond "flick"
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I feel bad for cavill, instead of getting actual entertaining capekino man of steel sequels, we will get another fucking batman trilogy this time starring a muslim
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>>67796904
Post that top 10 of all time and top 10 of this decade

I'm in the taste makers of yesteryear group
I will show you the true meaning of patricianhood, /v/
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>>67796752

god willing, I never thought i'd be excited about capeshit again but BvS really got me invested in the universe.
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>>67796935
>wanting more Man of Murder
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>>67796966

>BvS really got me invested in the universe.

Kiss it goodbye, because WB will go full quiptron.
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>>67796807
Why don't you try learning about cinema before trying to play with the big boys. If you were to state such ridiculous things in front of my IRL film club members the place would erupt with laughter.
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>>67796960
I have nothing to prove to you, pleb. Stay plebby, I'm going to go and enjoy some cinema you could never understand.
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>>67796989
Say what you will, but both movies have given us amazing Supe fights.
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>>67797025
>le PDL is Superman film meme

Fuck off
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>>67796966
Yea, same feeling. Maybe Justice League 1 and 2 will still be good, but I have little faith in solo movies now. Suicide Squad might be good?

Batfleck Batman movie might be good too.

You know what, I'm still pretty excited.
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>>67796886

Unbreakable is pretty fucking great. I still watch it regularly.

If i had to rank my favorite comic movies they'd be

1.) BvS (subject to change. ive only seen it once)
2.) TDK
3.) Unbreakable
4.) Spiderman 2
5.) Sin City
5.) Man of Steel
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>>67797025
Really? Impress me then. What's the religious imagery prevalent in both MoS and BvS meant to convey?
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>>67792297
>sanders supporters mistake bird for 800 delegates
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>>67797029
Cannot stop laughing. I expected a pathetic rebuttal, but this just takes the cake. Imagine what this kid looked like scrambling this piece of trash post out
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>>67797085
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>>67792297

this is the moment thousands of cucks around clapistan knew for sure bernie was the destined to be president.
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>>67797125
.t Plebeian Maximus
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>>67797119

In Man of Steel Superman unites both the Old Testament and the New Testament kinda like he unites both Krypton and Earth in a way. He forges something new from both.

In BvS the imagery is there to deify Superman and give the movie a mythic flair, but the whole thing is a desconstruction because Superman is NOT Jesus Christ. His character struggle with his limited power and feels uneasy with the idolization of his image.

Not that anon, by the way.
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>>67797234
To deify in whose eyes?
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>>67792188
Why Batman mask so asymmetrical?
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Lets review Cap's team
>Cap
best hero
>SW
best girl
>Falcon
best black
>Bucky
best bro
>Renner
Renner
>Ant-Man
best suit

how can Iron Man even compare?
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>>67797285
Not him, but humanity of course
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>>67797234
You're about half right in your analysis from my perspective.
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>>67792297
Reminder that Cuckipedia actually made an article for his meme facebook group
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>>67797303
1/2
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>>67797301
he made it himself
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It's a movie for the children of IMDB much like Inception, OGF, TWBB and Twin Peaks
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>>67797322
So the imagery's there to give him a mythic air and to deify him in the eyes of humanity to what end?
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>>67797303
>>67797362
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>>67797342

Does every facebook page with 100K followers get its own wikipedia page?
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>>67796126
>he doesn't understand the prequels
sup reddit
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>>67797174

show us your patrician tastes, marvelfag
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>>67797381

>>67791149
>>67792017
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>>67797085
The essential "i have no taste of my own" lmao
All you need is darkman and you're set
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>>67793298
The writing was good, as in, there were no big flaws in it.

Show me pieces of bad writing in the movie.
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>>67797429
>Marvel patrician
Oxymoron bro.
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>>67792188
What went right?
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>>67797362
Wait why are Unemployed, A.I. god, and King in red text?
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>>67797452

give me your list then famalam

i'm sure it's very unique
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>>67797285

In the eyes of the audience. You're supposed to be swayed by the imagery and the scenes of people idolizing him and think yourself that Superman's supposed to be divine and some sort of Christ figure. The movie wants YOU to fall for this kind of thinking.

Then as the movie progresses you start to see that Superman is just a man. He's too late sometimes, he can't know about things if he's isn't checking the news, he can't hear everything, he some times doesn't pay attention to obvious things, he loses his temper and, most importantly, he bleeds.

So he isn't really divine or the second coming of Christ. The world and it's people, and the audience, of course, simple projected that unto him.
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>>67797442
I know. I may or not be attempting to lead someone else to that same understanding Socratically. I wrote >>67790379.
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>>67797442

>it's a character study
except they spent minimal time focusing on superman's actual character because there was way too much else going on in the movie
you're just overanalysing the movie and using it as evidence for nonexistent quality
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>>67797468

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time
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>>67792251
top fucking kek
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>>67797523
>He's too late sometimes, he can't know about things if he's isn't checking the news, he can't hear everything, he some times doesn't pay attention to obvious things

Except when louis lane is involved
Then he knows things instantly even if he's nowhere near her
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>>67797523
This, it is a simple flick that most do not grasp.
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>>67797512
Let me know what you think, movie /b/uff
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>>67797534
Brofist friend, should have linked that too

That whole thread is worth reading anyway.
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>>67797523
I believe you are incorrect. Check out >>67790379
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>>67797587

I said favorite capeshit movies you dip
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>>67792188
Literally everything that could.
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>>67797538
He is not overanalysing, though. I agree that the movie had way too many stories crammed in it, but the time they spent focusing on Superman's character was well spent.
It said everything it needed to say through imagery and allegories, no "someone saying something and giving exposition to the audience".
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>>67797635
It's on there on the fourth row. Why are you using patrician when you're clearly not one?
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>>67797538
Character study may not have been a poor choice of words, but it sill applies partially. In any case, Clark's conflict in the film is pretty clear, and I'm quite sure I'm not over analyzing.

I have over analyzed the movie quite a bit, but mostly in my head, and not in those posts; all of that is surface level stuff.
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>>67797671
That's one of the strengths of the movie, it actually evokes a comic book, unlike most super hero movies. The visuals, and the way they are used to tell a story, are beautiful.
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>>67797701

okay, am i missing something?

which one of those instagram pictures is a capeshit movie?
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>>67797734
Absolutely agree with this.
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>>67792297
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>>67796489

>ROTTEN
>REVIEWING

CAN YOU FUCKING RETARDS JUST FUCKING LEARN WHAT ROTTEN TOMATOES DOES ALREADY

GOD DAMN IT I FUCKING HATE YOU RETARDED FUCKING CUNTS THAT CANT FUCKING PUT A FUCKING THOUGHT IN YOUR BRAIN
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>>67797734

The movie reminds me of Ang Lee's Hulk. Loved that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0t_uiwQDeY

This shit was pure patrician.
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>>67797500
Because kings, gods and neets are the master race
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>>67797805
Why mad RT is clearly biased when reviewing TV shows
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>>67792188
Nothing it was perfect
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>>67797829

Scenes you'll never see in a Marvel Cinematic Universe's movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfHiq8mB_Vs
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>>67792478
>moody and dark

I kept thinking the plebs (including these vaunted critics) were actually using the word "dark" for its grim connotations, but then they don't consider, say, "Deadpool" a "dark movie, even though he graphically shoots three guys through the head at once, and is tortured excruciatingly for two days straight, resulting in permanent, irreversible disfigurement.

No, they literally mean "dark", in the same manner an autistic three-year-old does, as in, "a lot of scenes were at night", "the sky looks overcast", or "Batman has a dark suit and flies around in a dark plane while driving a dark car".

Fucking seriously.
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its a movie made for videogame players
like mad max fury road
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>>67798015
but then why didn't I like mad max?
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>>67797523
>>67797621
Now, whether you agree with my analysis or not, would you at least be willing to accept that there might be some themes that you didn't notice with a cursory glance?

Run of the mill cape movies don't engender much in the way of in-depth analysis, so the fact that this one seems to be is saying something in and of itself.
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>>67792297
>26 seconds of non stop clapping
It was cute, but come the fuck on.
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>>67797404
>giving only Rhodey military school, even though Falcon, Cap and Bucky would have as well
>claiming Scarlet Tits has no formal education, even though she speaks at least two languages
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>>67792297
that webm is literally america.webm
>buh le cukcs xDD
just like you my fellow murrican
>tfw you are not murrikan
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>>67797971
Deadpool is a film that combines darker elements with light hearted ones to tell a rounded story.

The problem with shit like Snyder's DC diarrhoea is it is unrelentingly dark, it never fucking stops. Everyone is grimacing all the time, there is moody music and a LITERAL dark filter on everything. The whole tone is depressing, it's like the opposite of what a Superhero film should be. It's more sombre than the fucking news, reporting on a major natural disaster.
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>>67798341
Don't forget how absolutely every line of dialogue is between people mad at each other.
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>>67792667
Batman can bench 1000 pounds, what the fuck do you mean why is he beefy
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>>67798375
I just hate how every single fucking line of dialogue (this applies in Nolanverse to a certain extent too) is written like it is off a motivational poster. It's all so fucking pompous and sterile, no-one ever acts like a human. There is no genuine human interaction.
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>>67798255
Military school would be Westpoint, Air Force Academy or Naval Academy. Just being in the military doesn't count for shit towards that.
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>>67798428

Yes. This happens in Marvel's shit as well, but in another way.
Everyone is too witty, like a sitcom.
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>>67798341
>it's like the opposite of what a Superhero film should be.

Why can't superhero films be serious?
BvS is far from perfect but complaining it's not a quip comedy hour is retarded
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>>67798341
>The whole tone is depressing, it's like the opposite of what a Superhero film should be. It's more sombre than the fucking news, reporting on a major natural disaster.

You're a pussy living in a Twitter-fed bubble.
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>>67798492
I agree 100%

I do think Deadpool was marginally better, it was still literally 100% quips, but at least some of those quips had an emotional human core to them.

It's not like these two are the opposite ends of a spectrum, they are both just shitty, one-note writing manifesting in a different way.
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>>67798500
>it has to be one extreme or the other
You can count the quips in Winter Soldier on one hand and that one is everyone's favorite.
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>>67798519
Never use twitter.

How is wanting a film that doesn't seem like it was written by an edgy 15 year old wanting to sound "EPIC" and "DARK" being a pussy?
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>>67798500
See
>>67798536

The two are not opposites, they are the same thing: not writing characters, but just having everyone as vehicles either for "EPIC DARK QUOTES" or quips.
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>>67792188
Not much I really liked it
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>>67798568
How many edgy 15 year olds you see tackling themes as complex as a man with the powers of a god just trying to be accepted as a man? The edgy teen just embraces the power fantasy.
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>>67798492

AND THEY DRINK BEE-YARR.

LIKE A CUNTRY SONG. EVERYONE SET DOWN AN HAVE A BEE-YARR.

WALK AROUND HOLDING IT WITH TWO FINGERS LIKE IT AINT NO BIG THANG, AND JEST HAVE A BEE-YARR.
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>>67798634
You are thinking of edgy 10 year olds. Edgy 15 year olds LOVE that shit. " as a man with the powers of a god just trying to be accepted as a man" is not a complex theme, it's in ever version of Superman ever, and Snyder does nothing interesting with it at all, he just makes everyone look miserable and grimace.
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>>67798722

What's hilarious about this post is how he tries to go all patrician, with the "God as man ain't no big thing" comment, then retreats into autistic three-year-old mode, worrying about everyone looking miserable and grimacing...

Bright colors is happy, dark colors is sad and mean, right Timmy?
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>>67798722

this shitpost is overdone, you retards use it to "criticize" everything apart from religious nonsense and that Disney garbage you love.
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>>67798722
Ok, then how about men with the power of gods who are seeking to shed the public perceptions of their divinity while still trying to find a way to be inspiring and exemplary.

If it really was as immature, two-dimensional as you'd have it be, we'd have been treated to scene after scene of Clark openly weeping into the camera while saying trite like, "Why can't they just let me be? I'm just a man, no different than anyone else."

Snyder and the screenwriters managed to spare us that, somehow. Maybe they thought it would sound like, you know, something a hack would write.
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Why was it so depressing?
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>>67792297
Genuinely bought a smile to my face

Then after a while, I realized what this means
Fucking hell this is how people are going to vote this year
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>>67792251
>its to smart for its viewers meme.
Thats just a way to sidestep glaring flaws.
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>>67798886

do you think you're patrician? because there is no difference you retarded plebeian mongoloid.
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>I hate you and I want to kill you
>oh, your mom's name is Martha too?
>let's be friends lol
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>>67792188
It was trying to be too many things at once; an action film, a political drama, a crime thriller, a dream sequenced film with horror scenes.

Majority of people went into the theatre wanting to see Batman fight Superman and unfortunately the movie was not about this at all.

In parts it tried to be a Batman film, other parts it tried to be a sequel to Man of Steel, other parts it tried to be an episode of a Daily Bugle planet show; about Lois Lane investigating into a bullet.

I enjoyed it for what it was worth but yeah this movie was "too big for little minds".
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>>67798938
>tasteless /pol/ack

My mistake I thought you were actually an old local that has taste. Please do ignore the post
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>>67798886
Honestly I don't even know where you started with this shitpost. Did you link the wrong post to reply to?

>>67798899
A film that explored any of that would have been nice, that's not what we got.
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>>67799001
That anon wasn't me.
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>>67799052
>Honestly I don't even know where you started with this shitpost.

Color me surprised.
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>>67798948
>autism
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>>67799099

I know. The __ you're aping wouldn't post on /pol/
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Just watched it yesterday

The script and dialogue are really bad and needs a ton of work. The editing and pacing of the film as well (setting up a Justice league in between the climax of the final fight between Bat and Supes)

I really hate that there is no contrast (in tone and color) between the Batman and Superman scenes. The fight between them was mediocre.

Jesse as Lex could've worked but it seemed like he was phoning it in or didn't really give a damn about the movie or maybe it's the script's fault. He felt like a joker without the face paint and happened to be rich. Really felt like one of his other character portrayals in American Ultra or Facebook.

WW is a miscast and was not needed for this movie.

The movie wanted to be the Death of Superman with a mashup of TDKR. It just doesn't work because of how it is setup in the script (please fire Goyer)

Cinematography was okay. Some of the explosion effects were too bright in some scenes where you wanted to know what was going on. Music was bland.

Characterization was all over the place except for Batman (excluding all the murders he did). Keep Affleck but no more killing. Cavill was a really shitty Superman in terms of acting, those facial expressions are just terrible to see Superman doing a childlike scream.

I don't know why there were so many scenes of Batman just looking out of his car and plane window. Too little action in between all the talking. We only see batman do actual batman stuff for a couple of times.

Trying too hard to sneak in the Justice League in one movie and using clips where Lex Luthor designed all their logos as well.

What I liked:
>opening scene and the crime ally scene
>Ben as Batman
>"detective" or sneaky work from Bats

That's it I guess? 6/10

Also people over exaggerate the jar of piss plan by Lex. It was still a weird scene.
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>>67799206

Thanks for that shit, pleb breakdown.

Now get back to your "Magic: The Gathering" marathon.
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>>67799206
It's a 2/5 at best
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>>67792188
Director, Casting except for Affleck and Cavill
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>>67792413
That's good news, no more interracial degeneracy with blaquaman
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>>67792659
Gsl Gadot is super hot though
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>>67799374
no problem anon

>>67799400
maybe because I tried to like it so much or idk. I didn't know if I wanted to be angry, sad, or okay with the movie after watching it
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>>67799521
plus she used to be in the IDF, just like every Israeli citizen

confirmed for hot and badass, why do people not like this casting again
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>>67794381
I actually cringed when he said they were friends

Bruce, you were about the murder him not 2 hours ago what about all that talk over him being a danger to humanity?
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>>67799435

Most of the cast is fine. It's just Lois and Lex that suck
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So why did Superman talking to his dead Dad bother people so much? I watched Spider-Man 2 last night and it had Peter talking to Uncle Ben. The scene came out of fucking nowhere and the background was just a bright white light. That seemed far worse to me
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>>67799620
Well it's always shitty when a character talks to their dead friend or relative. It was shitty in Spider-Man 2 and it's shitty here.

What makes it even shittier is that Snyder's Pa Kent is fucking loathed. People hate him. He pretty much sets the tone for everything that's wrong with both MoS and BvS.
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>>67799052
>A film that explored any of that would have been nice, that's not what we got.

But the film is exploring it, only it's not doing it verbally. It's probably the best example of a film using comic book techniques to carry an unspoken theme that I've ever seen.
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>>67798948
this post sums up the entire movie. i wish i was memeing
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>>67799688

>What makes it even shittier is that Snyder's Pa Kent is fucking loathed. People hate him. He pretty much sets the tone for everything that's wrong with both MoS and BvS.

Dub people.
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Gotta admit the awesomeness of Wonder Woman saving Batman's ass.

She had no business in the movie though.
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>>67799825
>She had no business in the movie though.

>characters have "business" in a movie
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>>67799865
It's an idiom. English not your first language?
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>>67799688
If I'm wrong about this, I'll gladly eat my words, but I'm starting to think we're supposed to hate Pa Kent and think he's an idiot. It sort of fits with some of the other unexpected depth I believe I've found in these two films.

STOP INVINCIBLE SON was so unbelievably bad and out of character that at first, I couldn't believe what I'd just seen. In light of the mountaintop speech, it's slightly more understandable in retrospect. What if how we perceive Jonathon is intentionally trying to echo the relationships so many of us have with our own fathers?

I lost my father when I was twenty-five, and I've frequently said that I lost him right around the time I was ready to start listening to him. Through my teens, I was convinced my dad was an idiot, in my early twenties, I started to understand some of the wisdom in the lessons he brought me up with. Then he was gone.

What if Jonathon's actions continue to appear more understandable as more is revealed of his character?
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>>67792188
Absolutely nada. Everything went according to plan by the mastermind of Zack Luther. We took our first step for redemption.
>>67796816
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>>67799825

I admit that the movie could do without her and that she's there mostly for sequel-bait, but she has a function:

She was someone who gave up on others and hid her powers, and thanks to what happened realized that her powers are needed still and re-found the pleasure in showing it.

She represents hope for Batman in the romantic sense. Batman had abandoned his humanity. Remember all the witty-banter with Alfred where he begged for a Wayne heir?
She also connects Batman with the other metas. She, like the others, are not Batman's responsibility. He has to find, connect and care for them.

The above two also works for Wonder Woman. She had given up on men and now found a handsome stud that reconnected her to humanity, and like Batman, she has a connection to metas and need to find, connect and care for them.

Basically Batman is the new father figure and Wonder Woman is the new mother figure.

Pure capekinorino.
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>>67799886

No, I understood you.

But I could say Leia has no business being in TFA, and be entirely correct...her presence does nothing to advance the plot. SFW.
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>>67799999
Those are some great repeating digits.
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>>67799999
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>>67800025
I see your point, but none of this justified her existence in the movie. If there had already been a WW movie and we knew about her and her motivations and what not, it would have been fine, but here she's just thrown into the mix for no discernible reason (plot wise. obviously it was to set up for the justice league).
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>>67792811
>If they made tv Flash and Green Arrow react to the events of MOS, that would be GOLD.

While I hate a lot of things about Agents of SHIELD tying in the movies with TV was a good move.
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>>67800328
unfortunately it wouldn't work for DC because their shows are fucking awful
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>>67792188
Too much mixed together.
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>>67800350
Arrow and Flash are alright though.
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>>67800428
They're okay. Sometimes.

Arrow is basically a soap opera + vigilantism with tons of characters to hate and none to actually enjoy.

The Flash is corny as fuck. Some episodes play on it well, and some don't.

Either way, they wouldn't mesh well with the films.
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>>67800350

Agents of Shield is also shit
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>>67800519
I've never watched it because I assumed at best it would be on the level of an average MCU entry, and I've only legitimately enjoyed two or three of them.
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>>67796760
This would have been my favorite movie ever.
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>>67792478
>lex

Einberg was the only thing I enjoyed about this movie. It's not often that the villains are more realistic than the heroes. Even if that's because the heroes were written by a team of autistic children and Einberg is the only one there who can fucking act.
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>>67801189
You know something I find sort of amazing? Eisenberg's Lex is every bit as polarizing as the rest of this film. I didn't like his portrayal at first, but it's started to grow on me.
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>>67801264

He seems genuinely autistic. My nephew is fuck-on autistic and i've met some semi-autistic because of him and Lex reminded me of them.
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>>67801264
I'm not super polarized either way, but I will say his performance was INTERESTING. He at least fucking tried to create a compelling character unlike poor man's george clooney and cuntface cavill.
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