>critics sucking Marvel's dick after pic related but bashing BvS
Confirmation that the review business is corrupt.
ultron wasn't pretending to be le grimdark prometheus tale
Isn't Ultron supposed to be made of unobtainium or whatever the fuck Caps shield made of? Why is he beaten into submission by shitty lasers
>>67629960
Just admit that BvS was shit, we all know it was.
>>67630009
Then what was no strings on me about anon?
we moviegate now?
I'll show you why people praised it
Ultron wasn't mark zuckerberg with tourette's and didn't signal a plot twist with a jar of fucking piss
>>67630045
Fairly certain that was the body that purpleman stole.
>>67630045
Vision is using the Mind Gem, which is a remnant from the being that created the universe, and Thor is using some kind of magic hammer forged in the heart of a dying star. Iron Man thinks he's helping, but actually isn't doing shit.
What I think you are getting at is a scenario where Disney is paying critics off to say that the BvS movie is bad, whereas I think the opposite is more likely true, which is to say:
>critics hate all of this awful capeshit
>Disney pays them to say their capeshit isn't awful
>DC studios look at reviews and assume that critics are friendly to or enjoy capeshit
>put out capeshit
>they don't pay the critics off like Disney
>critics take their anger out on BvS and make it into their whipping boy
However I think even further beyond that critics really just aren't worth listening to. They cater their reviews in order to get the most views and they 'criticize' within safe parameters that don't really go out of what anyone expected or paid for.
It's not corrupt, but rather self-aware that it only has as given to it by readers. It's a job, and if they don't get paid then it becomes quickly pointless. The payment structure is what they aim to preserve above all else, which often means placing the goal of 'giving a fair review' near the bottom of the list.
>>67630066
Pinocchio
>>67630048
stop with that memes pls
>>67630083
no, doing that shit is retarded, they ran /v/ to the ground
>>67630126
* it only has -value- as given to it by readers
>>67629960
>the big epic moment is 3 characters shining their flashlights on the villain really, really hard
I think it's hilarious. Marvel has such a strangle hold on the market that anything different gets ripped to pieces.
Just sit back and enjoy the ride lads.
>>67630126
There really isn't any evidence of this though, besides "critics say they like one brand of capeshit and not the other". That in itself, is not proof of corruption.
>>67630089
Noice
>>67630177
>Marvel has such a strangle hold on the market that anything different gets ripped to pieces.
Keep telling yourself that, DCuck. Snyder films get bashed by critics whether they're about DC heroes or not, because they're bad movies. Meanwhile, Fox makes a movie with even MORE jokes than the Marvel formula, and the kind of raunchy jokes that Marvel wouldn't go near, while having none of Marvel's family friendly style, and critics eat it up. Days of Future Past comes out, and it has an apocalyptic future, and X-Men dying, but unlike Snyder's films, it's not completely devoid of joy, and critics praise it.
So maybe it's not that Marvel's got a stranglehold, or they're paying off critics for good reviews. Because the outlier isn't Marvel, it's DC. sometimes the others make bad movies, but never so consistently as DC
>>67630048
The point is that both are shit, not just BvS.
BvS may have been an overall failure but at least they tried to go further with superhero movies. They tried to explore the philosophical geopolitical impacts a being like Superman would have on Earth. They fucked it up but they tried. Marvel movies are all the same. Every fucking movie. Retarded humor with stupid quips mid action sequence like a Bay film. BvS got bashed for failing, Marvel flicks get praised for not even trying.
>>67630313
>muh company wars
>still thinks BvS is bad
>>67629960
Someone post the flying container webm. How Marvelfags has the audacity to talk shit about DC is beyond me. You faggots should remain silent at least until CW is out
kekimus maximus
>>67630089
>It's a literally who fucks a producer and get her own scene in a major flick episode
>>67630430
holy fuck, never again
>>67630180
I agree. I think the most accurate statement is merely that critics have failed to criticize. In 2016 we get more good films than ever but critics seem to still confuse 'good production value' with 'good film' at a rate which is depressing.
It seems to suffice that there are CGI special effects on screen in lieu of actual filmmaking.
>>67630430
That gets me everytime
>>67630430
>Garry's Mod
>>67629960
>colorful
>exciting
>featuring previously established characters
versus
>grey
>boring
>featuring literally who and the new batman
>>67629960
You guys always forget that TDKR got good reviews and that was just as shit as any Marvel movie.
>>67629960
Apparently that's the good kind of CGI shitfest
What's with the lighting in the Avengers movies? It's some of the worst I've ever seen in big budget bluckbusters. It looks so bland and stale and lifeless. No contrast at all, just bland uniformity. Like from a TV show or something.
And the cinematography is also pretty uninspired. Very generic.
>>67629960
desu I liked BvS a lot but i see nothing wrong with this. Its eerily similar to the Doomsday fight.
>>67630512
>colorful
>exciting
Last things that come to mind when thinking of a parking lot.
>>67629960
oh man I HATE the Marvel Avengers cast! They are so bland and boring compared to Affleck, Jeremy Irons, Gal Godat. THOSE actors are what makes a movie! none of this overrated RDJ who acts the same in every movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxV99PYX37c&feature=youtu.be
>>67630430
that "home camera zoom" shit is the worst trend in current filmmaking and it physically upsets me
>>67630512
>colorful
Let's put a yellow-brown filter over everything.
>exciting
You misspelled boring. Boring villains, boring fight scenes, boring effects, boring cinematography, boring everything.
>featuring previously established characters
Yup.
>>67630089
>that hulk
ahahahhahahahaha
>>67630559
battlestar galactica zoom. its like camera man forgets its rolling and zooms in panic
>>67630336
>They tried to explore the philosophical geopolitical impacts a being like Superman would have on Earth.
With the intellectual depth of a 10 years old sure.
>Marvel flicks get praised for not even trying.
That's not what happened with Winter Soldier or GotG. Wake me up the day DC does a decent spy-thriller capeshit movie or a decent space-opera capeshit movie.
>>67629960
IT'S SO DENSE
>>67630559
looked nice of Wall-e
>>67630457
>In 2016 we get more good films than ever
>>67630534
Expecting good photography and lighting from Joss Whedon is like expecting a good script from Zack Snyder desu
>>67630534
It's atrocious. Whedon and the Russos have zero sense of colour or shot composition. Some MCU did acceptable in that regard, like Iron Man or Ant Man
![2A735E1000000578-3157630-image-a-64_1436645108352[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/e9m0pYx.jpg "2A735E1000000578-3157630-image-a-64_1436645108352[1].jpg")
>>67630703
>good script from Zack Snyder
He doesn't write them tho
>>67630559
Lucas was the first to ever use boom zooms in AotC, during the geonosis battle. He did it with much better taste too than most directors these days imo
>>67630801
Max Landis could use a competitor though
>>67630430
and yet ultron didn't get 1/10th the shitposting BVS got.
i just don't get it
![1446080599604[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RpBVxBI.jpg "1446080599604[2].jpg")
>>67630606
At least DC doesn't have to use forced perspective to make their actors look tall.
>>67630896
>forcing hair perspective on supes
YOU CANNOT MAKEUP THIS UP
>>67630816
you mean his team of sfx supervisors did it. they showed it to lucas and he probably barely noticed the disconnect between the faux-documentary footage style and his soap opera static theater shots between his bites of subway
Batman v Superman is bad and boring and Age of Ultron is ok but entertaining. Iron Man 2 is also bad but since it was entertaining it wasn't absolutely shit on by everyone. Thats the big difference here. Also AOU didn't get glowing positive reviews if you actually read them yourself the consensus is it's barely passable and that is completely accurate if you're not being an edge lord who is incapable of measuring movies without extremes and desperately wants to be le cycnical /tv/ poster.
>>67630963
>A CAMERA
>B CAMERA
>WHERE IS MY LATTE
>NO WE CAN DO THAT IN THE COMPUTAH
>NO SWING IT LIKE THIS
>NVM WE'LL FIX IT IN THE COMPUTAH
Maybe BvS tried to be a deep and mature film but failed since it's just silly at times.
For example, Batman saying telling Superman how his parents died on the streets, sounding like a 14 year old edgelord. Or Pa Kent rambling about dead horses. My personal favourite though was when Batman stopped fighting Superman since their mothers have the same name.
Also, let's not forget Lex who was more like a Joker than the charismatic genius he should be.
>>67630896
>RDJ wasn't a good casting choice because he's too short
>Gaddot, Eisenberg, Momoa all have the appropriate height
>>67631016
They stopped fighting because Batman sympathized with the fact that Superman was just trying to save his parents and was in all likelyhood a person with actual emotions. Not just because their parents had the same name
>>67630534
whedon is a tv director
he has no idea how to handle a film set
>>67630534
I agree but not to that extent. If you actually want to see what a TV show looks like try watching Arrow.
>>67631039
The people Batman gunned down also were people with actual emotions and parents.
Plus, he doesn't perceive them as a threat for humanity compared to Superman.
>>67629960
Both are garbage
Stop spending your money on capeshit please
>>67631021
>Gaddot, Eisenberg, Momoa all have the appropriate height
they do
>>67631016
>Pa Kent rambling about dead horses.
>rambling
Confirmed for 12 years old?
Also,
>Batman stopped fighting Superman since their mothers have the same name
>>67631039
Batman stopped killing him because he saw him as a human being for the first time.
>>67631105
He murdered them for the greater good. You can't make the world a better place without using your 200 million dollar plane to kill street thugs.
>>67630126
I can definitely see that being a possibility, Also, I keep hearing about some sort of review embargo being in place before the release. Is that a common practice, or could WB enacting one have prompted the critics to be extra harsh in an effort to discourage anyone doing so in the future?
>>67631145
Superman is not a human you fucking retard
>>67631105
He doesn't perceive him as a threat though. He only acknowledges that there is a possibility, however small it may be, that he could be a threat.
A criminal shooting a gatling gun out of a pickup truck is a threat.
Superman is the possibility of a threat.
>>67629960
headbeam ex machina
>>67631162
>saw him as a human being
Notice how I said "saw him as a human being" and not "realized he was a human being". You're reading comprehension is pretty weak.
>haha xD my children movie is better than your children movie
>haha xD i'm sure supes would beat iron man in an epic 1v1 showdown :P
Fuck you capechildren do me a favour and kill yourselves
Capeshit is cultural degeneracy
>>67630430
>>67630868
The difference a moment in AoU made me smile
>>67629960
AoU was better than BvS, that might be why
>>67630089
would squat with
>>67630126
>I'm right and everyone else is wrong
>>67630177
I think it's more that DC has a monopoly on terrible filmmakers
>>67630336
>what is winter soldier
>what is guardians of the galaxy
>what is iron man 3
>what is hulk
>what is all that crap about the world filling up with people that can't be matched
Did you just skip to the action scenes in every marvel movie or something?
Also
>BvS explors philosophical, geopolitical themes
Kek, maybe like an eighth graders social studies essay
>>67630336
>They tried to explore the philosophical geopolitical impacts a being like Superman would have on Earth.
>>67631320
>muh escapism
wake up and smell the coffee Jack
>>67630598
>Let's put a yellow-brown filter over everything.
Let's put a blue filter over everything.
>You misspelled boring. Boring villains, boring fight scenes, boring effects, boring cinematography, boring everything.
You're describing BvS or Snyder's movies in general?
>featuring previously established characters
>Yup.
You're saying that's the only reason the Marvel films are successful? Then explain the success of former Literal Whos: Iron Man, GotG, Ant-Man.
>>67630365
Can't wait to see suicide squad reviews, because they will be better than BvS.
Snyder is the problem here you cucklord.
>>67629960
What's wrong with this?
>>67631380
Literally what? Try again
>>67630162
Isn't that what you do, Gojira-san?
>>67631244
Every single action scene in MoS and BvS had me more excited and giddy than anything in a Marvel movie. Marvel action scenes are generally garbage with terrible direction. Except for Winter Soldier, that one was pretty good.
>>67631417
Because DC never makes bad movies like green lantern
>>67629960
AoU had a shit villain and shit plot but still had great action scenes where the protagonists motivations made sense and were sympathetic enough for you to be invested, there was tension in that they were trying to actually save innocent people like some sort of heroes or something
BvS had people in my theater laughing out loud at how lame and non-sensicle their fight was
>>67631320
it had only couple of minutes cringey, not 2.5hours
![president-lex-luthor-couv[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KdDLfXN.jpg "president-lex-luthor-couv[1].jpg")
>>67631021
Eisenberg is 5'7'', that's at least half a foot too short.
>>67631461
They literally look the same
>>67631161
Occasionally, a film company will send out screening notices with a specific embargo in force: You cannot post or publish your review until X date. It might be the week of opening, it might be two days before opening — it might be opening day itself.
Sometimes, they even ask you to sign a non-disclosure release to that effect. If you see this movie at this screening, you agree to the embargo. And they have your signature to prove it.
It’s all about controlling information — and bad word of mouth. This kind of embargo is almost never associated with a movie which is expected to be a critical hit.
Fant4stic had such an embargo recently.
>>67630048
>Just admit that BvS was shit, we all know it was.
>we all know it was
>we all know
>this meme exists.
>>67631489
Yeah. Cringe by screentime: Ultron, 35% max; Luthor, at least 75%.
>>67631502
Why doesn't Luthor fight crime while dressed up as a small, non-threatening animal?
>>67631542
Intimidation by screentime: Ultron, 0% max; Luthor at least 5%.
>>67631572
Fanboy please, don't be so desperate.
>>67631542
Whenever you cringe it's because you're reminded of something about yourself that you don't like.
>"People create... smaller people? Uhh... children! I lost the word there."
>super AI
>>67629960
It literally doesn't matter. Although going with GRIMDARK superhero movies at this age seems like a blunder on DC's part. They also jumped into the whole Justice League thing way too fast considering Marvel took their time to actually get to Avengers movies, mainly after establishing almost all of its major players in their own movies first.
no one paid me off and i wrote a bad review for free, just because i enjoy the butthurt
>>67631625
When AI learns to be more human, they become a little odd. Remember Tay.
>>67631572
This is the problem with Marvel. All the "fun" takes away from any tension.
Personally, I've never felt like any of the Marvel line-up was ever in danger. Every time there's tension building up, they remove it with a joke.
Sheeple love it though. It's fast-food cinema. Tasty but terrible taste.
>>67629960
this 30 seconds long scene is more fun and entertaining than the entire BvS
>>67631660
>Every time there's tension building up, they remove it with a joke.
You are watching a Joss Whedon movie, after all.
>>67631660
But dude, Quicksilver totally died!
>>67631669
Girls just wanna have fun.
>>67631625
He was doing this for shit and giggles because he is super intelligent AI
>>67631682
And he even had time to quip while doing so.
>>67631682
Yea, and everyone in the theater started tearing up after he said "You didn't see that one coming?".
So touching.
>>67630896
>m-maybe our movies are complete shit, but at least our actors are tall
Ladies and Gents, DCucks
>>67631669
kek the thing is that some people actually think that. Like 3 wannabes shooting their bright lasers at Mr. Evil Robot is anything interesting or fun compared to Superman and Batman duking it out in grandiose fashion.
>>67630442
Nigga, it's Elizabeth Olsen.
>>67631720
Why are you so upset that these movies aren't what you want them to be? You want serious stuff, you might want to look elsewhere.
>>67631105
>The people Batman gunned down also were people with actual emotions and parents.
Cry more faggot.
![timthumb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ddcxktr.jpg "timthumb[1].jpg")
>>67631669
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>67631572
Nah. The software Ultron talking to and consuming JARVIS was intimidating, the proto body was creepy, and when he ripped through his former body, I jolted a tiny bit. Luthorberg just made me cringe or laugh.
>>67631624
Sauce?
>>67631730
Hm? Yeah, sure it is. It was both fun and interesting and not some people but majority of people.
>>67631750
spam filter stopped you from mking it longer? I think you could reach 2000 characters by adding some spaces in there
>>67631773
Mmm, but you know, mmm, Ultron doesn't act like he's got ADHD. There's nothing, mmm, that's scarier than ADHD.
>>67630606
>>67631350
>Kek, maybe like an eigth graders social studies essay
>With the intellectual depth of a 10 years old sure.
In that case I'm sure you can explain why BvS is childish. And don't just say coz muh capeshit because then you're just contradicting yourself with Marvel
>>67631572
Ultron is pretty unhinged, and every time he revealed it was really unsettling, the best thing about him is how he slips from sane to insane
>>67631734
Dude, the one in the scene is an extra.
>>67631908
I didn't feel shit for ultron because capeshit is a joke, its stories to entertain children with nothing better to do
Getting pretty sick of people on this board unironically thinking this sort of garbage has any worth, the irony is people think capeshit has more artistic merit than video games
>>67630606
>With the intellectual depth of a 10 years old sure.
in other words you didn't understand it and are offended by your own stupidity
>>67631891
Not him but I would like to point out MCU films are childish and shallow and don't pretend to be anything they're not.
>>67631891
>superman is bad
>Batman isn't bad
This is literally as deep as it got
>>67631942
Well were do you draw the line?
Does a movie containing a person that's anything more than basic human or anything fantasy or supernatural immediately deserve to be dismissed? If so why, justify your opinion.
That said I find marvel extremely juvenile, but not because of the concept of humans with superpowers. It's incredibly juvenile to dismiss something based solely on the premise.
>>67631951
Are you a cucklord?
What was there to understand? Seriously?
>>67631951
They sure used big words and concepts
>superman is bad because he's scary
>Batman should kill him because batman
>>67632017
Let me explain what you missed out on.
Superman = Jesus.
>>67631891
Not him, but sure
BvS is 2.5 hours long and spend more than 50% of its time running to the ground the same, obvious metaphors we got in first 5 minutes or even in the previous movie
>Superman is Jesus!
>we hated Jesus!
>Superjesus died for our sins!
>Man challanging God!
And it keeps happening over and over and over again, like a 10 year old that is so obsessed with his rudimentary analogy he can't stop talking about it
What I don't understand about you people is if you love 'symbolism' and 'philosophy' so much, why not watch a movie that covers those grounds 10 times better? Or even better, read a book?
>>67630430
>people think this isn't awesome
It's like watching movies with SJW's.
>>67632042
>still doesn't get it
>>67631969
>>67631993
>>67632017
>>67632032
>>67632035
>>67632042
complete and utter plebs
>i will never be this shallow and manchildish
>feelsgoodman
>>67631105
Im not the writer of the movie trying to desperately defend it or something, dude. I'm just saying its not because their moms had the same name, thats how I interpreted it.
>>67629960
What video game is this from?
>>67632035
It was kind of subtle.
>>67630048
>Just admit that this board is for normies
FUCK OFF NORMIE
>>67632066
>>67632068
>s-shit, this marveldrone we thought was stupid completly covered everything 'deep' about our movie! what to do...
>let's mock him!
GG, m8s
>>67632035
and? Is that it? what is the moral of the movie? Superman is jesus? are you fucking 8?
>>67632032
>your right i didn't get the plot
>>67632115
>completly
>thought was stupid
I still do
>>67632118
>what is the moral of the movie?
Rather than jumping to conclusions, we should take the time to pause and talk out our differences, because aliens are people, too.
>>67631951
Okay sweetheart, tell me what I'm too dense to understand.
>>67632042
>What I don't understand about you people is if you love 'symbolism' and 'philosophy' so much, why not watch a movie that covers those grounds 10 times better? Or even better, read a book?
BvS is automatically the better movie than all of marvel simply because it respects its audience enough to add some sub-text/depth, even if you may think it's flawed (it isn't)
>>67632199
Praise the whale
>>67632189
the fact that there's literally nothing wrong with the pacing/editing for starters, if you disagree I would like for you to explain to me in fine detail why they're bad
>>67632199
So, if I'm making a cheescake and I add some tuna to it, will it be a better cake because I respect the eaters enough to add some additional flavor?
>>67632265
How about you describe why it is good instead? Because all you did was reply to his question with another claim that you haven't backed up with anything
>>67632199
>respects its audience enough to add some sub-text/depth
Oh, yes, it's very respectful of its audience. I especially love the way Snyder beats the audience over the head with the fact that both heroes' mothers are named Martha. It's not like he thinks the audience is stupid at all. Nor is it a fuck up on his part that the emphasis put on this contrived plot device takes the focus away from what's really important to the scene.
![Ray%20Charles%20GI[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MsetXVo.jpg "Ray%20Charles%20GI[1].jpg")
>>67632271
See, you're too square to comprehend that superhero movies (or any genre for that matter) can strive to be more than what Marvel has deceived you into thinking they should be.
You should try hanging out with the cool cats more often.
>>67632289
I can't describe to you why it's good considering you have child's understanding of BvS's narrative structure, literally anything i try to explain to a mere pleb like yourself will just ring out the other ear and you'll cite MUH PACING MUH CHARACTERS MUH PLOT
>>67632271
>using analogies to back up your claim
my man you've already lost
>>67632242
better than everything marvel has done combined
>>67632293
And still most people and critics didn't get it.
>>67630126
DISNEY'S PAYING CRITICS T SAY BVS IS BAD
>>67632293
kek my point still stands
>>67632338
>u 2 dumb to get it ;)
>u already lost ;)
>better than marvel because I say so ;)
And we have the winner of the shitposter of the week!
>>67632354
The emphasis put on the name brings the story to a halt and demands the audience's attention. It's reasonable that this causes a lot of people to also focus on the name and scratch their heads going, "What the fuck? So their mother's sharing a name makes them best bros?"
It's difficult to see the whole picture when a spotlight is being shined on one small detail.
>>67630986
Yeah. As I recall, most of the reviews were along the lines of "It's ok, but not as good as the first one"
>>67632265
The dream/premonition/future Flash sequence is a prime example of how much of a shit show the movie was.
>>67631244
Batman V Superman is not really appropriate for children. One of its major problems.
>>67632265
Also you didn't answer my question. What was it about the movie that was deep?
>>67632476
why?
>>67632498
>what about the movie was deep
thanks for proving >>67632338
The WB marketing on /v/ was pretty gross but on /tv/ they take it to a whole new level.
>>67632538
You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just spewing shit as if dodging questions is as good as answering them.
>>67630162
>The irony is strong in this kaiju
>>67630457
>In 2016 we get more good films than ever but critics seem to still confuse 'good production value' with 'good film' at a rate which is depressing.
But Snyder DC films have better production value than Marvel films, but get worse reviews, because they're poorly thought out at their core, and ultimately not enjoyable. I don't know how that gels with what you're saying.
>>67632538
>it's so complex, nuanced, and mature in its treatment of philosophy and humanity
>I think you're mistaken
>h-heh, you just didn't get it, it's t-too big for little minds
Bravo, this has been a good shitpost
>>67632538
>hahah, marveldrones are too stupid for this movie
>it was about X
>nuh-uh! it wasn't! thanks for proving my point!
>so what's so deep about it?
>hahaha, see? told you marveldrones are too stupid for this movie!
>>67632581
>>67632603
>>67632609
>You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just spewing shit as if dodging questions is as good as answering them.
this is the mindset of someone who didn't understand BvS, too perfect
>>67632603
>Bravo, this has been a good shitpost
He IS the shitposter of the week, after all
>>67632417
>>67632115
He calling you a pleb precisely because you didn't try to look into the film deeper, you went for the low hanging fruit.
>>67632483
You are right it's aimed at basement dweller highschool dropout manchildrens
>>67632617
C'mon man at least try, tell us it's capekino, just make something up instead of relying on this boring >your to stoopid
>>67629960
>>67632628
And I think he is calling me a pleb as a defence mechanism, because turns out he isn't as smart as he thought he was
Of course, theoretically he COULD explain the depth of the movie to prove me wrong on this one, but yeah, like that's happening
>>67632656
>he thinks i"m shitposting
of course you do, considering you didn't understand BvS
>>67630336
>they tried to go further with superhero movies
>Flash time travels
>...into a DREAM!
This isn't going "further", this is going full retarded.
>>67632538
All you said was that marvel fags are too dumb to understand it, which doesn't explain shit.
>>67632703
"You're telling me that the White Portuguese is a huge boat that's been in Gotham all this time? And it has "White Portuguese" written on it?"
>>67632703
>you are stupid ;)
>wanna tell me something different?
>nope, you are stupid ;)
LITERALLY an 8 year old
>>67630896
yeah thats why their movies arent as high as marvel xD
>>67632321
>superhero movies (or any genre for that matter) can strive to be more than what Marvel has deceived you into thinking they should be.
The only superhero films that have actually managed to be slightly more intelligent than MCU films are the Fox X Men Movies, and Nolan's Batman movies. Zack's films are all flash and no substance, while all the while acting like they're saying something deep, just because he puts jarring, half-baked symbolism in his shot construction. They are the definition of pretentious.
>>67632703
>third times the charm
Bored now, pls bring new and exciting shit flinging into the next DC vs marvel thread that you start
>>67632703
>>67632750
oh snap, epic pwnage xd
>>67632713
This
Also they weren't sucking Marvel's dick. AoU was mediocre sequel, everybody agrees on that front but at least it was entertaining.
>>67629960
>It's Marvels faults that DC can't make a decent movie anymore
>It's all a big conspiracy against DC
FUCK OFF
What people fail to understand, and what mostly angers them about Snyder, is that his religious imagery isn't indulgent and masturbatory. Yes, he compares Superman to Jesus, but he's not the first one to make this comparison, since his inception Superman has been a Christ figure.
His allusions don't stop there either. He compares these characters' motivations to a myriad of pop icons, because at the end of the day it's what Batman and Superman are. And he uses this as a vehicle to show the audience their character development. The religious imagery is just a vehicle to deconstruct them and tell a story relevant to this era. He finishes by destroying all this historical baggage that the characters have been carrying for decades, and shows them in a different, updated light.
>>67632773
This. I mildly enjoyed AoU, it wasn't great but it was fun at times with some good scenes
BvS was literally a torture
I say we delete /tv/ until /v/co/ fuck off
>>67632725
not only are you too dumb to understand it but you insist that you aren't and do 'understand' it. You think you've cracked the code that is Snyder's genius and you think you're some kind of special snowflake that's smarter than your average marveldrone or DC Fan, but you're just a faggot who demands everything spoonfed to you
>>67632811
>since his inception Superman has been a Christ figure
Superman was created by two Jewish guys and was based of Mosus
>>67632617
>this is the mindset of someone who didn't understand BvS
Understand what? That being a superhero is neither easy nor fun? That you can't save everyone? That anything you do, no matter how well intentioned, may have unintended negative consequences? That there is no god? That Jesus should've worn a cape? What is it that makes you think a movie about two murderers punching each other is deep?
>>67632773
Age of Ultron did pretty little for me overall, but I liked the Vision a lot. I think it's because Paul Bettany turned lines that could be read as sarcastic quips into detached, slightly amused observations, like "I was born yesterday." I hope he's used well in Civil War
>>67632811
ITS A MOVIE ABOUT COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS
LITERALLY NO ONE CARES ABOUT THAT SHIT WHICH IS WHY DC MOVIES FAIL IN COMPARISON TO MARVEL
>He compares these characters' motivations to a myriad of pop icons
HOLY SHIT NIGGER WHAT
>and shows them in a different, updated light.
NO ONE CARREEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>67632853
"On my world it means hope"
>>67632811
>And he uses this as a vehicle to show the audience their character development
>Batman acts like a murderous psycho until he finds out Clark's mother's name is the same as his.
WHAT DEVELOPMENT
WHAT AN ARC
BRAVO, SNYDER
Oh and
>his religious imagery isn't indulgent and masturbatory
It 100% is.
>>67632811
No one gives a shit. BvS sucked. It doesn't matter what Synder was going for, because it still sucked.
If I tell you "Green Lantern" was some allegory to some Shakespearean play, it doesn't magically make the movie good. Stop being a retarded dipshit and fire Snyder already.
>>67630132
Man I wasted my double dubs on you
ITT smug marveldrones who think they arn't plebs
>>67632910
At least they have good movies
>>67632876
That's MoS. When Lois brings it up in BvS, Superman says "My world doesn't exist anymore." Because he's struggling with all this inner conflict and lack of hope in the movie.
>>67632811
You are the reason everyone hates DC
>>67632923
>capeshit
>good
>>67632703
>>67632927
Exactly, it's just funny that such a depressing movie has the universal symbol of hope as one of its main characters.
>>67632874
>He compares these characters' motivations to a myriad of pop icons
>Citizen Kane
>Zorro
>King Arthur
>Zeus
>Prometheus
>Ahab and Moby Dick
>John the Baptist
>John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King
>HAL
>Alexander Magnus
And that's just over the top of my head.
>NO ONE CAREEEESSSSSSSSSS
You don't care.
>>67632941
At least they have movies where don't feel like killing yourself by the end.
>>67632910
Go look for a new job Zack. You suck at directing.
>>67632830
>but you're just a faggot who demands everything spoonfed to you
You people literally claim there is some hidden gem of genius in this movie and since it's apparently not what we have described many times, we ask you to share this gem with us. It's not us asking to be spoonfed, we are calling your bluff and you guys are pretty much folding.
>>67632874
Nobody's buying your new strategy, Mr. Shitposter of the Week
>>67632840
>>67632874
>>67632899
>>67632908
you see family? this is what happens when the pleb is confronted with a taste of the patrician, this is why marvelcucks are so embarressing
this butthurt is glorious
>>67632976
I'm a Marvel cuck for stating the truth about Superman's creation?
>>67632954
FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT NIGGER
SRSLY NO ONE CARES SENPAI GET OVER IT
ARENT YOU DC FANFUCKS TIRED OF BEING KEKED BY MARVEL YET JESUS CHRIST
AND LOL AT LIKE THE FASGGOT IN LIKE THE THIRD REPLY SAYING DC GETS BAD REVIEWS VECAUSE THEY DONT PAY OFF REVIEWERS GUESS THE SIMPLEST TRUTH IS THE HARDEST EH
DC MOVIES FUCKING BLOW NO ONE LIKES THIS DARK AND EDGY STUPID FUCKING SHIT HOLY FUCK
>>67632954
>>67632853
It's hot air, don't let any of them tell you different
>B-but muh visual symbolism!
Is basically all they have. Snyder's films are visual wankfests with no real cultural relevance, message, or significance to back them up. All he can do is take things he's heard others say like "Superheroes are the modern mythology" and "Superman is analogous to Jesus" and shove them into his story, even if they have no relevance to the film he's making. A film in which the main character is compared to Jesus, then proceeds to snap his enemy's neck is the surefire mark of a hack.
>>67632976
1.6 billion dollars
I stepped out of the theater after watching Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice™ and literally fell to my knees and thrust my arms into the air.
"SNYDER!!!!" I cried.
I cried so much for the first time in my life.
I went in to the movies jaded and cynical after reading all the /tv/ posts how much Snyder was a hack, Man of Murder, Stop my invincible son and expected absolutely trash from the movie but I was wrong. So wrong.
I couldn't believe the masterpiece I had just witnessed. I felt like throughout the entire film Snyder himself was speaking to me, thru Metropolis and Gotham, his love and dedication was there. He assured me that a new era of cape movies has arrived, a new era to save us from these lackluster regurgitated capeshit movies we are accustomed to.
During the battle with Doomsday, the people around me were so enthralled and were convulsing and speaking in tongues, their spit and tears flying everywere, some landing on me, but I didn't care. I was already in full spasm from the orgasmic capekinography I was seeing.
As the movie ended, everyone in the cinema cried. Like wailing and sorrowful crying. Nobody said a word but everyone in there had the same feeling. "Forgive us Snyder for we do not know what we have done"
In all seriousness this a solid 12/10.
I'm still wiping my tears as I try to relive that moment, I'm afraid I will never experience this exhilarating joy and sadness ever again in my life.
Thank you Snyder... Thank you...
>>67633010
>ARENT YOU DC FANFUCKS TIRED OF BEING KEKED BY MARVEL YET JESUS CHRIST
NEVER! SNYDER 4 LIFE!
>dat opening
>dat surrounded by bats bruce wayne capekino ascension from the hole
>dat score
>dat superman
>dat day of the dead rescue scene that looks beautiful thanks to based Larry Fong's cinematography
>dat seamless directing of superman's cape after the batmobile crashes into him and he's walking towards it
>dat batmobile sequence that perfectly illustrates a jaded and ruthless Batman that's now willing to kill
>dat superman and batman rooftop battle
>dat aesthetic /fa/ af lex luthor
>dat wonder woman theme
>dat trinity shot
C A P E K I N O
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>>67633021
The thing is, they are virtually stylish, but all his visual wankery doesn't serve any purpose to the movie other than to make it look "cool"
>>67632944
It is. And it's a sign of Snyder's inability to direct that the entire movie feels grim and hopeless. The viewer shouldn't think the world is hopeless from the beginning of the movie up to the end, but because Snyder sucks at weaving all these different threads into a rich tapestry, rather than Superman overcoming self-doubt, we see Superman being a dour fuck, and we're given the impression humanity doesn't even deserve heroes.
Snyder's tapestry is drab and grey and doesn't connect on an emotional level with a large number of viewers.
>>67632811
>he uses this as a vehicle to show the audience their character development
Character development? What character development? There isn't any character development pleb
![1458685199857[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XfWMjb4.jpg "1458685199857[1].jpg")
>It's a political thriller
>It's a spy film
>It's a kaiju film
>it's a sci-fi film
>It's a horror film
>It's a coming-of-age story
>It's a character study
>It's a religious allegory
>It's a blockbuster
>It's a love story
>It's a Greek tragedy
>It's an épopée
>It's a pop-culture pastiche
>Its fearless scope captures the subtle and grandiose; a dilating pupil, a single pearl rolling off a hand, a nuclear explosion in the stratosphere
>It's a blissful dream and feverish nightmare
Glorified bloggers and self-proclaimed online critic nerds expected capeshit.
If we seek your monument, we'll look around us.
The status quo has changed, and the road is long and winding. But with fraternity, selflessness, and compassion, we'll all carve it together, with our bare hands if it's necessary, out of the cathedrals of lie's granite built by cynics for their false prophets.
ZACK SNYDER DIED FOR OUR SINS
ITT marveldrones telling themselves that it's gonna be ok
>>67633043
>people around me were so enthralled and were convulsing and speaking in tongues
>Thank you Snyder... Thank you...
That DANK DC memerino is the only good thing that as come from DC in a very long time.
To everyone in this thread praising this movie hold your head up high. You were one of the first to get it. Your kids will be in utter awe of you for seeing this movie first run:
>The year is 2066
>"Grandpa anon grandpa anon can we talk to you"
>your hearing is not as good as it used to be but you try your best
>"Yea what is it little ones"
>"Grandma anon says you took her to see Batman V Superman on your first date"
>you grin to yourself "Yes, yes I did"
>"Grandpa how does it feel to have witnessed the death of capeshit first hand and witness the birth of capekino? My teachers tell me this is one of the biggest moments in American history"
>"Well little ones, many were scared. Traditional reviewers didn't know what they had on their hands. They didn't understand it. So naturally, as humans do with the unknown they start to hate it, fear it
>"Wow grandpa"
>"Many understood that we had something different but it was hard to express. Imagine tomorrow seeing a totally brand new color for instance never seen before and never existing on previous color scales. How would you explain what you see? How would you comprehend it? You could not. You would only realize you were seeing something new and beautiful. That's what Batman V Superman was for us kids. Something new and something beautiful. It jump started the entire capekino movement and destroyed all modern film criticism as we knew it. World peace was shortly established and no child went hungry anymore. We achieved a whole new level of evolution and we can all thank Zack Snyder for it"
>"Wow gramps that's a crazy story"
>"Hehe kids you'll understand it soon enough. Hey, who wants to take a trip to Disneyland on the holodeck?"
>"Yaaaaaaaaaaay"
>"Heh let's go kids"
God bless you Zack Snyder.
>>67633102
Why would Marvel fans be upset about a DC being bad?
>>67633090
It's basically schlock action with poorly written yet heavy handed drama tacked on to give it some semblance of plot
>>67633102
>dc losers thinking any marvel fanboy is remotely concerned about dc overtaking the empire
sure thing senpai
![1457263831100[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jn0Z4Xv.jpg "1457263831100[1].jpg")
>"Grandpa, can you tell us the story again?"
>"Yes my child what story would you like to hear?"
>my grandchildren and his friends gathered around me eager to hear the story
>"Tell us about when Batman v Superman was released, the Dawn of Capekino"
>"Ah yes, during those times Marvel and Disney dominated cape movies, they released superhero movies like there's no tomorrow, each one a copy of the other. People were getting tired, wanting for something new"
>"And then came a visionary, his name was Snyder and he took cape movies into a brand new direction. Cape movies with substance, cinematogrpahy, deep and insightful themese and symbolism, never before seen only taught possible into arthouse cinema."
>"Snyder combined the cape movies and kino, never taught to be possible before ushering a new wave of capekinos for generations to come"
>"That's amazing grandpa, what happened next?"
>"Snyder was hated. People back then didn't understand something so beautiful could be melded with comic book heroes. He was persecuted and humiliated and insulted by almost every forum and critic during that time"
>"That sounds awful grandpa"
>"Yes, yes it was. It was a terrible time to be a patrician of the arts but ultimately with much perseverance, Snyder won thus starting the era of capekino"
>a tear falls from my eyes as I finish the story
>"Grandpa, why are you crying?"
>"No, my child, it was just during those brief moments, I doubted Snyder. I-I took part in hating him...I wish I could have said sorry to him... "
>>67633058
>Pa Kent
>...ride a tornado UP A MOUNTAIN
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>>67632954
>He compares these characters' motivations to a myriad of pop icons
>Citizen Kane
>Zorro
>King Arthur
>Zeus
>Prometheus
>Ahab and Moby Dick
>John the Baptist
>John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King
>HAL
>Alexander Magnus
Don't you see though? You're just showing that he's a hack who can't set up his own iconic imagery, he just takes it from better films to try to seem cultured, and it makes plebs like you feel smart to recognize it, but actual film critics who have seen these movies don't think much of this, because he uses them with little meaning in his story. That's all he's ever done. 300 was him replicating panels from the comic onscreen, and even that tactic was copied partly from Sin City over a year before. Mimicry without real understanding is his one trick.
>>67633166
and still people didn't get it
>>67633082
No, it's kind of true, there is character development in the movie. It's just that Snyder sucks at it.
Batman goes from being a man broken by the events in MoS to being all "I'm going to make Superman proud." Superman goes from this hopeless feeling of "why bother?" to making the choice to be a hero and sacrificing himself. And Lex goes from autistic to crazy, autistic, and in prison.
>two armies of plebs arguing about who's the least pleb
>>67633116
>Disneyland
>not Six Flags
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>>67633149
>And then came a visionary, his name was Snyder and he took cape movies into a brand new direction. Cape movies with substance, cinematogrpahy, deep and insightful themese and symbolism, never before seen only taught possible into arthouse cinema."
Thanks mate, I needed a good laugh.
>>67632811
>his religious imagery isn't indulgent and masturbatory
over 1 hour of accumulated religious imagery is
The problem is Zack thinks he is a genius with this shit, meanwhile the conflict of man vs. god that Batman and Superman represent is decades long. And it's simple to grasp. You talk about deconstruction and stroy relevant to this era, while at the same time comparing those people to heroes of the past, like Jesus or Moby Dick and Ahab. Seems like been there done that to me. Just like people 2000 years ago, people in the movie were afraid of super powerful man, even though he was doing good. And just like in mid 19th century Moby Dick, a man's is obssessed with killing the whale, while paying no mind to consequences
And what historical baggage? Superman dies, but we know he will be back in JL Part 1 and he will come back as this glorious symbol of hope that he has always been in comics. Batman is still Batman, maybe a bit less edgy than in beginning, but that's it, so I can give you character development but it really isn't anywhere near 'genius' level
>>67633185
Didn't get what? That Snyder doesn't know how to pick a theme and stick with it? No, we get it.
>>67633166
NO!
SNYDER IS LOVE!
SNYDER IS THE LORD THY GOD!
SNYDER IS PEACE!
SNYDER IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA
The prophecy tells of a great man, who will come and bring Capekino to the masses. His name is Zack Snyder.
GTFO YOU FILTHY BLASPHEMER!
>>67633149
>>67633116
can you post a pic of yourself? im honestly curious what kind of autist that writes this shit looks like
>>67633202
The one on the bottom is a work of art. The one on the top is a chimpanzee seeing someone pull off a trick, and doing a comic mockery of it.
>>67630430
was this shit really in the movie ?
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
>>67633227
DUDE JESUS, LMAO
>>67633186
This
>>67630430
>mfw people try to tell me this is better than BvS
>>67633247
REPENT YOUR WICKED WAYS NOW!
AND SNYDER WILL FORGIVE YOU OF YOUR SINS!
>>67633221
>And what historical baggage?
An endless barrage of fanboys and comics since the 30's, comparison to other iconic characters, everyone thinking they have the last word on how these characters should behave and act.
>he doesn't understant the character
The point is that the character belongs to no one and everyone.
IF YOU SEEK MY MONUMENT LOOK AROUND YOU
>>67633285
>>67633262
GOOD GOOD! PARTAKE IN THE HOLY COMMUNION OF SNYDER. DRINK HIS BLOOD AND EAT HIS FLESH.
>>67633247
it's pasta dude
>>67633289
Are you serious with that image?
>>67629960
They have never made a superhero flick that is better than 7/10
They don't even need to do reviews of the genre anymore
Just say "it's 7/10"
>>67633289
What does Synders dick take like?
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