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Which is your favorite light saber duel?
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Which is your favorite light saber duel?
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yoda vs sheev

perfect combination of drama and cheese

prequel fights in general are the best
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>>64170956
Luke vs Vader (Jedi)
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>>64170956
GOD TIER
Luke vs Vader - ESB
Luke vs Vader - ROTJ

TOP TIER
Anakin vs Obi Wan - ROTS
Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul -TPM
Old Obi Wan vs Vader - ANH

MID TIER
Kylo vs Rey and Finn - TFA
Sheev vs Yoda - ROTS
Mace and co Vs Sheev - ROTS
Obi Wan vs Grievous - ROTS
Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku - ROTS

SHIT TIER
Anakin, Obi Wan and later Yoda vs Dooku - AOTC
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>>64171050
Prequel fights are overchoreographed shit. They're good for laughs though.
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>>64170956

Luke vs Vader in episode V.
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>>64171106
The cinematography in that duel coupled with the music and significance of what's occurring makes it one of my favorite fights in any movie ever.
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That one where the guy got his hand cut off. That was sweet.
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>>64171050
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>>64171106
This

It was just 2 guys clashing lightsabers like broomsticks but it was still so better than those high choreography borefests from the I and III
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>>64170956
Vader v. Luke from Return of the Jedi. The music at the end of that fight is also god-tier
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I love the father/son, trainee/mentor duels

1. Vader/Luke Ep VI
2. Anakin/Obi Wan Ep III

the themes of these scenes are absolutely god-tier as well, top drama
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Luke vs Vader in Star Wars
Ben vs Vader in Empire Strikes Back
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>>64171121
I can agree with this assessment
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>>64171142
OT fights are slow and boring.
It's like watching old people fuck.
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>>64170956
Luke vs. Vader in both ESB and ROTJ.
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>>64171121
First Star Wars related list I've seen that I can agree on
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>>64171106
The sequence from that screenshot had more emotion in 40seconds than the entirety of TFA
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Sheev vs Yoda was DA BEST, close 2nd was Anakin vs Obi Wan,

And Vader vs Luke fights in the OT were boring as shit, try me
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>>64171198
see

>>64171303
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Luke vs. Vader in Empire is the best duel
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>>64170956
ROTJ and TFA, in that order. Fuck overchreographed nonsense and fights and actors not trained in swordfighting.

Most other lightsaber fights were garbage.
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>>64171050
>yoda vs sheev

mah nigga
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>>64171351
Kill you are self
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What pissed me off the most was that Grievous was portrayed as a coward bitch pussy.

Just... look at his character design.
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>>64171355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
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>>64171106
This
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>>64171142
They're not over choreographed, that's literally just what lightsaber fighting is like in the old republic, according to canon
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>>64170956
Mace Windu vs. Droids in The Clone Wars (2003)
Darth Maul vs. Pre Vizsla in The Clone Wars (2008)
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>>64171303
This guy gets it

>>64171050
The whole part where they start throwing those big circular things at each other in the senate room with classical John Williams playing.....not sure if there was a better feel in all of Star Wars aside from when Darth Vader get's his suit

Episode 3 was the GOAT

>inb4 muh OT
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>>64171121
GOD TIER
Luke vs Vader - ESB
Luke vs Vader - ROTJ

TOP TIER
Kylo vs Rey and Finn - TFA
Old Obi Wan vs Vader - ANH
Mace and co Vs Sheev - ROTS (but only for the memes)

MID TIER
Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul -TPM

SHIT TIER
The rest
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>>64171415
Well it's retarded.
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>>64171391
It's even worse in Clone Wars

He gets defeated and captured by a bunch of Gungans. Seriously.
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>>64171434
/thread
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>>64171400
seen it

literally reddit: the video carefully engineered to farm upboats

prequels fights are still better than old people fucking
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>>64171434
The other list was way better
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>>64171303
>>64171424
Lucas pls go
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>>64171344
That's because those 40 seconds were a culmination of all three OT movies. TFA and it's OT counterpart, episode IV, have comparable emotion
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Darth Maul Vs obi wan

>that orchestra
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>>64171390
>wahhh how dare you not think OT fights were better than da babby prequels

The choreography was so lazy and Lucas was just figuring out how Jedi fight so it wasn't until Episode 6 where Lucas starts figuring out the potential of the light saber fight.

Episode 3 was the apex of Lucas' implementation of light saber fighting due to the advanced choreography he had
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>>64171494

Holy fuck, no

I've seen TFA's ending THREE GODDAMN TIMES at this point
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>>64171424
>The whole part where they start throwing those big circular things at each other in the senate room
exactly

one of the coolest (and at the same time funniest) parts of the saga. It's so well shot.
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>>64171482
If you're 12 maybe
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>>64171472
watch it again
maybe it will cure your mental retardation
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>>64171050
this
the lasersword fights in OT was garbage
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>>64171522
>implying Sheev vs. Yoda didn't have the GOAT orchestra
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>>64170956
If Anakin knew the sheev spin could he beat Obi Wan's high ground advantage?
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>>64170956

You forgot the one where Qui-Gon and Maul fight on Tatooine.
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Here is my ranking of the duels, best to worst:
>RotJ
>ESB
>TPM
>TFA
>ANH
>RotS
>Horse shit
>AotC
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>>64171525
Oh wow, so you weren't even baiting.

Thanks for the laugh.
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>>64171570
Well he tried, but sadly it came out as more of a flip than a full spin.
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>>64171542
no thanks

watching that video unironically is suicide-tier. Never ever link that on /tv/ again, weeb
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>>64171472
>old people fucking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IERz1PmkdC4
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>>64171569
Touche'
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>>64170956
holy shit, I never realized how many lightsaber duels ROTS had compared to the rest of the films
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>>64171525
>forgetting the OT was made in the 70's where it was extremely limited
>slobbering over the shitty goofy looking over choreographed prequel fights that look dated af due to old CG everywhere
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>>64171472
>get proved wrong
>LE REDDIT LE REDDIT XD AM I FITTING IN YET LE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIT HAAAAAA!

You're lucky it's against the law to kill people or else you'd be on my shitlist, punk.
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>>64171388
>I have the high ground
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Episode 3 had the GOAT fights

Anyone who says otherwise is a nostalgia babby manchild who can't accept that all the fights in the OT could have been fought by fucking old people, no spinning around or jumping or crazy acrobatic shit, literally just Vader and Luke clashing swords the same way for 3 whole movies
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>>64171303
t.George Lucas
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>>64171732
>no spinning around or jumping or crazy acrobatic shit
yeah and this is why they are not garbage like the PT duels
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>>64170956

The best STORY wise as far as making me feel something the most would be the ROTJ duel which is much more emotionally powerful than even the duel in ESB, but in terms of choreography I'd probably go with the final battle of ROTS in general or maybe TPM's.

I do think that Dooku and Obi-Wan/Anakin's fight in AOTC is a little underrated though. I liked how when the lights go out, for a few moments, it just kind of suggests the strikes that are happening in the dark rather than shows all of them as it closes up on the light moving in front of their faces. I thought that was a pretty creative little touch.
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>>64171434

found the redditor
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>>64170956
None. Light sabers a stupid. Why dont use jedis ranged weapons? When they predict the future anyway, it shouldnt be to hard to hit weaker force users.
Oh wait, because an Imperium wich rules over half the galaxy and jumps through space, has WW1 level accurate weaponry.
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>Such a great duel amirite xddd
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>>64171689
>forgetting the OT was only 30ish years ago where modern fencing and other types of sword fighting were almost exactly the same was it was today

>being a OT babby still believing that Vader VS Luke AKA "Let's clash swords the same fucking way each fight" was better than any single fight in the prequels (even AotC's Dooku vs Obi Wan/Anakin)
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>>64170956
>via 9gag.com
Anyways I'd say either Luke vs. Vader from Empire or Kylo vs. Finn and Rey from TFA.
Kylo hitting himself in the spot Chewie shot him was the best part.
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>>64171303
>>64171351
>>64171355
>>64171424
>>64171525
>>64171557
>>64171732
>>64171839
Saganfan, enough already
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>>64171773
So clashing swords exactly the same way, but still keeping the drama bullshit that is categorical of a space opera such as Star Wars is totally acceptable except when it's done in the prequels with a more diversified fight style it's garbage?

Sounds like we got a OT nostalgiababby, how were the 80's?
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>>64171905
i am legitimately curious about what purpose this spinning serves. like, what the hell was going through the choreographer's mind?
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>>64171532

>when Yoda stops the disk seat and begins winding it up for the pitch
>*duel of the fates intensifies*
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>>64170956
Luke vs Vader
Finn vs Kylo
Obi-Wan vs Maul
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>>64171121
/thread
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V > VI
you cant call IV really a fight and the prequel trilogy duels are more like a choreographed dance than everything else.
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>>64170956
The duel in empire, where Vader just toys with Luke until Luke makes him grumpy and then Vader wrecks his shit
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>>64171905
That was pree cool actually, if you knew anything about swordfighting it's that fancy shit like that actually makes it harder to figure out where the opponent is going to hit which is why the prequels had better lightsaber fights than the OT
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>>64171973
> clashing swords exactly the same way
this is exactly what they do in the PT
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>>64171973
>diversified fight style
If that's what you want to call emotionless dance choreography that looks that it was made for a circus show. I prefer fights were the combatants look like they're actually trying to kill each other
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GOAT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4
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>>64172079

Killing is not the Jedi way.
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>>64171973
>clashing swords exactly the same way
Watch any of the fights from ESB, ROTJ or TFA and see why you're wrong. In these fights they're actually attempting to strike each other down instead of just dancing with one another. They get sweaty, bloody and emotional in their fighting
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>>64172059
You mean where Luke and Vader can't really fight for shit due to Lucas not knowing how to implement lightsaber dueling to it's potential, but Luke obviously jobs for Vader because he's the chosen one?

Every lightsaber fight in the OT is something you could fall asleep to, I can almost guarantee that if Lucas could do the OT again he'd put more effort into the lightsaber duels
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>>64172110
Then why did Yoda tell Luke to kill Vader? And why did Yoda start the Clone Wars? Is Yoda just an asshole?
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So, y'know the way the Oringals and now TFA depicts lightsaber fights as relatively normal sword fights? No jumping around or flipping or spinning? Whereas the Prequels had all of that ridiculous shit?

George ain't the sorta guy to put thought into this, but what do y'all think of this for a theory:

In the prequels, when the Jedi were at their height, they had a lot of spare time on their hands and they had an extended period to train. So they were taught to use the Force to their advantage in new ways during fights, ie all the ballerina shit. Whereas in the Originals and TFA, we have Obi-Wan who'd be much to old to pull off that sort of gymnastics, Luke who's untrained (and currently too old), Vader who suffers from a combination of being too old and rusty skills seeing as he hasn't faced an actual Jedi opponent in decades, Kylo who's inexperienced, and Rey who's brand new.

Which brings me to the conclusion that as the trilogy progress and Kylo and Rey get more experienced, we're gonna see a return of the stupid bullshit from the Prequels.
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>>64171732
>>64171472
>>64171355
>>64171303
If you seriously don't shut the fuck up I'll pull out my European katana and deal with you myself.
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>>64171905
>that shit speed
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>>64171691
>You're lucky it's against the law to kill people or else you'd be on my shitlist, punk.
american savage pleb rage, yikes

go back to your anime and video games, kid. /tv/ is an art board, not suitable for OT-apologists
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>>64172155
I was actually really impressed with TFA's fight. It was much more akin to the OT's fights, there's no flipping or spinning, just emotional lightsaber combat with a lot at stake.
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>>64172074
Nope, each person has their own style of fighting with light sabers. This isn't even evident in the OT at all due to Vader and Luke being the only people who use a lightsaber for than a minute which results in a fight with the monotony of a boxing match.

Prequel duels were more varying a la MMA

Terrible analogy, but all I could come up with at the moment due to muh cannabis
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>>64170956
darth maul vs obi wan and qui gon
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>>64172223
Watch out kid I got connections and can easily get pardoned within the next month. DON'T FUCK WITH ME!
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>>64172215
I could probably beat you up in real life t͏͏b͏͏h senpai
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>>64172266
Heh... I'd like to see you try.
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>>64171908
God, you're funny. So defensive.
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>>64172227
>being impressed with anything not out of Lucas' brain relating the Star Wards

Back to Leddit pls
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>>64171121
go back and watch ANH. Obi vs Vader is among the worst fight scenes of all time. Not just starwars fights, but any movie or show. shit is sandsnakes on GOT bad.
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>>64172064
>That was pree cool actually, if you knew anything about swordfighting it's that fancy shit like that actually makes it harder to figure out where the opponent is going to hit which is why the prequels had better lightsaber fights than the OT


Anyone who actually knows anything about swordfighting will probably have a seizure if they read something this retarded
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>>64172314
So you're haphazardly admitting that you're an OT nostalgiababby? I already pointed that out though
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>>64172251
DUDE WEED LMAO
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TOP TIER
Vader vs. Luke - ESB
Vader vs. Luke - RotJ
Kylo vs. Finn and Rey - TFA

MID TIER
nothing here

LOW TIER
Maul vs. Anakin and Obi-Wan - TPM
Dooku vs. Anakin, Obi-Wan and Yoda - AotC
Sheev vs. Yoda - RotS
Vader vs. Obi-Wan - ANH (doesn't really count as a duel 'cause it's mostly dialogue and Ben loses on purpose).
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>>64172379
literal meme list

lmaoing @ your life
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>>64172186

Both of those are obviously to prevent future massacres of a considerable scale. Yoda is a leader, and as such he's the one to make bold calls like that.
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>>64172379
>Perfect
redditors will deny but this is the only correct one
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>>64172379
I can get behind this one
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>>64172373
Look, buddy, I know no one likes the prequels, but you need to calm down.
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>>64172223
>/tv/ is an art board
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>>64172419
>redditors will deny
nope. redditor here

that's our list basically. Only /tv/ seems to have a hard-on for prequels
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>>64172379
>any one on one fight by abrams
>top tier
Please call me when he takes some medication and doesn't make an unnecessary cut every five seconds.
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>>64172493
le false flag
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>>64171905
>>64172010

1. It's a light sword, wave it around enough in front of somebody, they'll get dizzy or disoriented
2. Those same flurries are also used to make it easier to deflect multiple blaster shots. It's like a little moving shield around you.
3. It could also keep your opponent guessing just your next strike is while covering all points of attack. Keep in mind a lightsaber isn't a normal sword. A person could make any kind of strike up, down, across, diagonal, jagged or whatever and cut you into pieces fairly easily. You would want to make sure either to keep your opponent's lightsaber busy as much as you can or make your every point which he might cut is covered by some kind of defense.


>>64172079
>I prefer fights were the combatants look like they're actually trying to kill each other

You can't look to the OT for that either.
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>>64172493
>Only /tv/ seems to have a hard-on for prequels

Because /tv/ is fucking retarded.

I was going to use the word "contrarian" but no, that gives them too much credit. They're as fucking thick as dog shit.
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>>64172551
/tv/ is just too intelligent for you friend

maybe you should try reddit instead
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>>64171351
>Sheev vs Yoda was DA BEST

Jesus Christ, no.
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>>64172585

Maybe you should suck my dick, I browse Reddit and /co/ exclusively. I'm here now because I'm pretty wasted and I come to /tv/ creeping for the latest pics of celebs I think are bangin'
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>>64172603
His opinion is so shit it sounds more like 9gag than reddit.
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>>64172646
>I browse Reddit and /co/ exclusively
I never would have guessed
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>>64170956
Luke vs. Vader in RotJ by a landslide.
Runner-up would be Yoda vs. Palpatine, and the other Luke vs. Vader fight. I haven't seen Ep.7 yet though.
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>>64172646
>I browse Reddit and /co/ exclusively.
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>>64172603
What was the best then?

>inb4 muh Luke and muh OT Vader
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>>64171381
>ROTJ
Bullshit. Vader's fighting was nerfed. Empire he fought better.
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>>64172786

You sir, have good taste.
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>>64172731
>>64172795

I love that I made two people browse through their folders of frogs and anime faces to reply to me.

Later, dickholes.
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>>64172731
>said he's from reddit
>"false flag"
>"no, really, I browse reddit and /co/"
>"lol so obvious"
Are you retarded?
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All of them ranked:
1. Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader and The Emperor in Return of the Jedi
2. Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back
3. Obi-wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader in A New Hope
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader in Revenge of the Sith
5. Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace
6. Finn and Rey vs Kylo Ren in The Force Awakens
7. Qui-Gon Jinn vs Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace
8. Yoda vs The Emperor in Revenge of the Sith
9. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker vs Count Dooku in Revenge of the Sith
10. Mace Windu vs The Emperor and Anakin Skywalker in Revenge of the Sith
11. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker and Yoda vs Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones
12. Obi-Wan Kenobi vs General Grievous in Revenge of the Sith
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>>64171121
perfect list right here
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>>64172877
Different people.
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>>64172893
hello reddit!
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>>64172826
>What was the best then?

Certainly not Sheev vs. Yoda, you mongoloid.
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>>64172893
>4. Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader in Revenge of the Sith
Fuck off and call him Anakin like everyone else.
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TFA did a great job in delivering a neat choreography without getting prequels retarded.
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TR-8R vs. Finn
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>>64172927
What was Reddit about that list? Sorry, I don't actually browse the site and find it difficult to determine what is or isn't a Reddit opinion.
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>>64172379
>Maul vs. Anakin and Obi-Wan - TPM
>Anakin and Obi-Wan - TPM
>Anakin and Obi-Wan
>Anakin
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>>64171050
>He thinks the duels were about fancy moves and not about the conflics in and between the characters
Look at him. Look at him and laugh!
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>>64171400
How would I learn to edit a video in this manner?
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>we will never see a battle of the highground between sheev and kenobi in that senate chamber
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>>64172953
>le doesn't state his opinion to at least have a decent argument, yet criticizes mine without a rebuttal

Back to reddit
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>>64172976
as long as you aren't prequel meming, you are literally a redditor.
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>>64172170
gr8 b8 m8
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>>64173137
but... literally none of the prequel fights are above the OT ones.
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>>64173070
I was just passing by to point out your opinion is shit. Judging by your responses to others ITT, you're a whiny little bitch (and also full reddit) not worth engaging.
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Out of all the prequel trilogy fights, you can't deny this one looked the best and was the best
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>>64172976

This is the sad nature of this board. Eventually people just keep shouting reddit over and over at each other for whatever they say that it loses its meaning.

I remember when accusing somebody of being from reddit actually meant something.
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>>64172186
>MINE!MINE!MINE!
>Yoda i cant kill my father
>The boy has no patience
i dont know
>>64172810
my sides
>>64172829
SW fights doesnt care about power levels its about whos is the most angry/cocky.only during kylo vs finn and rey could you see just as much one side was lacking skills.
>>64172893
Jedi Luke vs Vader
Empire Luke vs Vader
Obi-wan vs Anakin
Obi-Wan vs Darth maul
Kylo vs Finn
the rest is eh
>>64172970
yes
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>>64172826
>inb4 muh Luke and muh OT Vader

Their fight in ROTJ is the best, if only because of the emotion behind it. Now go cry about "bawwww the OT are shiiiiit, why does nobody like muh shitty prequels", you little faggot.
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>>64173207
I really liked it when yoda whipped that lil lazer sword of his and went to town
hurrrr
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>>64173185
i don't make the rules here
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>>64173207
>Yoda doing retarded flips
>dated CGI

Even as a kid, I thought this was embarrassing.
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http://s1.webmshare.com/PqrKo.webm

Good choreography or not, I do like Fin vs. TR-8R due to the uniqueness. Not often we get to see different weapons fight in this series.
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>>64172995
>He thinks the duels were about the conflics in and between the characters and not about fancy moves
LOL get some fucking taste loser

theres more conflict in those moves than mark hamills meme face & voice

My theory is that only fat neckbeards hate the prequel fights because they can't jump around like they do in the movie
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>>64173215
>I remember when accusing somebody of being from reddit actually meant something.

It's always been a baffling insult to me because I've never been to reddit yet have had it lobbed at me a couple times. I don't understand.
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>>64173288
>muh emoshunz and muh grit

All the prequels had in quality was the John Williams OST and the light saber fights

All OT had going for it was the plot/script and the fact that it revolutionized special effects at the time, the fights were terrible in OT and you know it
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>>64173389
Mah nigga
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>>64173423
>the fights were terrible in OT and you know it

The fights in ANH were shit, but that's about it. Keep sperging, m8.
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>>64173207

>That part when the chanting kicks into high gear as the Chancellor's podium activates and lifts up into the Senate hall

I thought that was a good shot, like thousands of years of history between the Jedi and Sith has led to this final battle within the literal heart of the Republic.

While the prequel lightsaber duels didn't always have as intense of a personal element to them like the OT, I liked how some of them could feel symbolic and meaningful in that spiritual sense.
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>>64170956
I liked the Darth Maul fight right after Jin died.

Obi Wan vs Darth Maul was the better fight.


I just want a really good light saber show down. I want them to go all out instead of what it looks like in certain scenes of the actors holding back afraid of hurting their fellow actors.

I just want a Jedi vs Sith fight with no holding back.
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>>64173485
There was barely any lightsaber fighting (at least 1v1) in the entire OT, if you want to say muh emotion and muh drama made them better then I can give you some leeway on that; however to say the technical aspects of the actual fighting going on were better than the prequels is just plain wrong
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>>64172419
>WAH IF SOMEONE DENIES THIS THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY FROM REDDIT. WAH IF YOU DISAGREE WITH MY OPINIONS YOU'RE A REDDITOR.

Found the redditor.

When will this meme end?

/tv/ is basically "If you don't agree you're a redditor."

I don't even know how reddit's own tv board is like that just provokes everyone.
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>>64173549
>I liked the Darth Maul fight right after Jin died.
>Obi Wan vs Darth Maul was the better fight.
my fucking nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPHw0wzDCpg
3:19
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>>64173549
>I want them to go all out instead of what it looks like in certain scenes of the actors holding back afraid of hurting their fellow actors.

The thing is though, I thought made sense in context. Like when Qui-Gon is sitting meditating until the doors open and Maul paces around like an animal (like how Anakin starts doing in ROTS), I never thought Qui Gon at any point was really trying to kill Maul, at least not intentionally, because to do so would technically be against the Jedi way.

But when you get to Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan get stuck in a small space with Maul and sees his master murdered, so the fight gets just a little more intense and you can tell Obi-Wan is not just trying to maybe cut a limb or wear him down.

But I also think that if you can scrutinize any fight, you'll notice the obvious that these are actors not real combatants. You can sort of tell in ROTJ that Mark Hamill is not trying to hurt Prowse and in some cases is just hitting in a single spot while the camera cuts away just in time.
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>>64171121
smells like this thread was immediately infiltrated by OT fags
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>>64173688
Yeah, fuck Plinkett. The hype surrounding the Darth Maul fight was incredible and it felt intense. It's only after watching it dozens of times can I pick apart the choreography.
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>>64173807
smells like prequelshits have arrived
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>>64173832
i honestly think mike stoklasa has shit taste. all kidding aside. he and jay said they didn't "get" inherent vice.

absolutely disgusting plebbitry
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Darth Maul fighting Sheev in TCW.

Shit was so based.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DI8kkR9G0Q

/thread

Ian McDiarmid is the GOAT
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>>64172810
where is the sheev spin
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>>64173785
What they should do is hire actors that know how to fight or at least train their actors to fight intead of acting in a fight.

Look at Ray Park as Darth Maul. He can somewhat act but he has fighting movements and some savagery in his fights. The guy is a martial artist. So naturally his fights and movements are going to be somewhat more authentic compared to other actors just that were not trained right and instead just focused on barely doing any movements. We get stupid CGI fights like Dooku vs Yoda, Yoda vs Palpatine, and Kenobi vs Grievous.

They should of just kept Ray Park around as Darth Maul through the entire prequels because his fights were more authentic compared to all the other fights in the prequels.
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>>64173688
>killing is bad
>tfw Obi-Wan stayed pure after killing maul
just how bullshit the force is?
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>>64173807
>>64173846

Anyone who isn't a sagafag should be banned

And Disney shills should be tarred and feathered
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>>64174054
>Ian McDiarmid

If there was ever a reason to watch the prequels, it's him alone
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>>64174194
That and Qui Gon and Mace Dindu
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>>64171121
Why did this thread continue after this post?
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>>64173675
People who like the prequel fights are analogous to people who like garish vulgar interior decor, its flashy and has zero substance and anyone with any taste is going to prefer something from the original trilogy, which has some actual narrative and emotional relevance to a people above the ages of 5.
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>>64174249
Because OT babby's like you can't appreciate the technicality (and superiority) of the prequel fights because muh emotion and muh drama
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>>64174312
sup reddit
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>>64171121
Switch Anakin vs Obi Wan - ROTS with Sheev vs Yoda and you're sold.

Anakin vs Obi Wan wasn't that interesting and dragged to long.
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>>64174312

all the movies are made for twelve year olds.
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>all these pleb answers itt
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>damn bros these figths are so friggen cool look at these cool flips n shit
>dat choreography man so friggen cool
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>>64171400

>>64171400

You can apply this to ANH, Empire and ROTJ as well since they're all choreographed (with the help of the late, great Bob Anderson). The duels aren't real *gasp*. It's two or three actors in sword play. It's supposed to look good on screen, which they ultimately do.

Whoever took the time to watch that in slow motion AND edit each and every key frame is an autistic fuck. No doubt about it.

The Phantom Menace is a great duel, up there with Empire and Jedi. It was perfectly paced and cool to see.
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>>64170956
wheres TRAITOR
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>>64172893
>3. Obi-wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader in A New Hope
No, fuck you that fight scene was shit and you know it.
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>>64171121
This is spot on
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>>64172995
>being this much of a nerd
What a nerd
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>>64172995

porque no las dos?
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>>64172810
Fucking lol
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Sheev vs the Jedi council was cool.

The first time watching the film, you aren't really sure if he is actually the bad guy or not. Then when they confront him and he just flies over the fucking table and starts hacking dudes down, you almost shat yourself in disbelief.
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>>64171050

>not if anything to say about it, I have

I swear to god the audience cheered and clapped for a solid 20 seconds
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>>64173288
>caring this much about nerd shit
Why are you such a nerd dude?
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>Maul v.s. Obi Wan and Qui-Gonn
fun as fuck, cool debut of the new lightsaber concepts

>Dooku v.s. Obi Wan and Anakin
meh, forgettable

>Dooku v.s. Yoda
great stuff, especially how force usage was interspersed with the combat

>Dooku v.s. Obi Wan and Anakin Pt. II
fun only to see how Christopher Lee's face was shopped in every frame, other than that it was shit.

>Grievous v.s. Obi Wan
too much going on for me to pay attention

>Sheev v.s Windu
obviously if it's got Sheev in it it's GOAT

>Sheev v.s. Yoda
fun to see Sheev punking Yoda like the little green cuck he is

>Anakin v.s. Obi Wan
technically awesome but lasted way too fucking long

>Obi Wan v.s. Vader
was this even a duel? booooriiing.

>Luke v.s. Vader
best duel of the OT, but overall pretty boring and stiff.

>Luke v.s. Vader Pt. II
boring and way too short

>Kylo Ren v.s. Finn
haven't watched ep7 but I can only assume it's overly technical and shit
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>>64174720

>The first time watching the film, you aren't really sure if he is actually the bad guy or not.

Yeah, even though I always knew the guy was future emperor, a part of kind of hoped the kinder Palpatine and Sidious were separate people.

I liked how in three, Ian altered his voice at many points to show just how much he was slipping at that moment between personas
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>>64171598
Solid ranking
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Finn fight vs Kylo was really good, something very barbaric and primal about it

Rey's fight with Kylo is shit, she seemed very ackward with the sword

other than that

ESB luke sabre fight and then Obi Wan vs Anakin
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GOD TEIR
Obi Wan vs Grievous
Luke vs Vader (both)

HIGH TEIR
Rey vs Ren
Obi Wan and Gin vs Maul
Mace vs Sheev
Anakin vs Obi Wan

Mid
Sheev vs Yoda
Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku (ROTS)

Shit
Attack of the clones
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>>64174737
>great stuff, especially how force usage was interspersed with the combat

Yeah, I actually liked the brief force combat better than the lightsaber duel. I like the one between Yoda and Sheev better because I think they got a better feel by then of how they wanted Yoda to fight and also, in some of those scenes, Sheev was CG, which made the fight feel a little more natural than having poor Chrisopher Lee or his stunt double flailing around and then asking ILM to put Yoda in there somehow
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>>64174826
>Rey's fight with Kylo is shit, she seemed very ackward with the sword
she had no skills until muh force saved her ass.why did the writers decided to maker her a jedi? shes was better with a gun .
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>>64173688

In terms of pure choreography and practical performance that little 10 second obi wan vs maul clash after qui gon gets impaled is the best in the entire series.

Shame the fight had to end on such a bullshit note, and that the fight is in a shitty film.
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Best
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>>64170956
Sheev vs. Windu is the most memeworthy
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Anybody got a webm of Finn vs Kylo?
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>>64171121
GOD TIER
Luke vs Vader - ROTJ (ultimate struggle, everything lead to this. It's connected to the throne room scene and it gives this duel a lot of depth. Then there's this whole segment when Luke got pissed)

Luke vs Vader - ESB (emotions, history, Vader toying with Luke, testing his strenght at first, then learning more about his abilities ['impressive. most impressive!'] and eventually showing who's the master for now [Luke looked devastated already when Vader started throwing shit with Force at him] and then there's a reveal.)


TOP TIER
Kylo vs Rey and Finn - TFA (not as much history attached to it, since it was just a first chapter of new trilogy, but there were some raw emotions, effects were top tier, sabers never looked as good, enviroment helped a lot. it was probably the most strenght-based fight in whole saga so far)

Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul -TPM (overchoreographed but still much less "greenscreenish" than any other PT fight and music was perfect - one of the best themes from PT if not the best)

Old Obi Wan vs Vader - ANH (mediocre choreography but had some meaning at least what you cannot say about any of the fights from lower tiers besides Anakin vs Obi Wan)

MID TIER
Anakin vs Obi Wan - ROTS (would be higher if it was 5 minutes shorter. some good moments - like that shot next to exploding lava - and some shitty as fuck like when they were flipping those swords like a retards without hitting each other, when they tried to pretend they are fighting hand-to-hand or whole "high ground" stuff)

Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku - ROTS (just for this shameless rip off from ROTJ. Did someone said TFA is rehash?)

SHIT TIER
Anakin, Obi Wan and Yoda vs Dooku - AOTC (just because as a kid I thought it was neat)

Sheev vs Yoda - ROTS (just for music and Sheev laugh)


UTTER SHIT TIER
Mace and co Vs Sheev - ROTS (it's good for memes though)

Obi Wan vs Grievous - ROTS (literally 10 seconds of waving broomstick on greenscreen)
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>>64174950
The two are apprentices.
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>>64170956
Luke v Vader part deux
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This was better than any fight in the movies from a purely technical point of view.https://youtu.be/-7hBZNsPnyg
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>>64171973
>clashing swords in the exact same way

Nah you fucking idiot
In ANH we see two seasoned duellists in a slow but tense fencing match, each strike carefully planned

In ESB we watch Vader toy with a horribly inexperienced Luke, who could only desperately swing away against an almost playful assault. The apex of this fight is when Vader starts throwing random objects with the Force, again in a way that clearly displays his greater power

Finally ROTJ shows another duel between equals, only rather than the restrained, careful fight from ANH it's a fight full of emotion and desperation, as Luke and Vader attempt to play mind games with each other as they brutally rip into one another with aggressive techniques

They're just as varied as the prequels, but also have real meaning and choreography
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>>64170956

Empire duel by far. Followed by Jedi. Call me a pleb, but I fucking loved the duel in TFA
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>>64172227
>there's no flipping or spinning

But there was spinning. Really retarded looking spinning
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>>64175314

This one was better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm4JEZudf0c
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>>64171050

This

Only the nostalgia fags would ever like the fighting in the old movies. They were fucking awkward and clumsy.

Both were shit though but the prequels were a little better than the old movies.
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>>64172810
I actually laughed at this holy fuck
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thing is, makes sense for yoda to have a twirly acrobatic style, given that he's a tiny fucker and have to fight opponents 5-10 times his size. so I think yoda fights get a pass. yoda vs. sheev is great

but PT anakin vs obi wan is trash indeed
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>>64175345
>HE JUST WON'T STOP MEMEING!
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>>64175515
Thanks senpai

>>64175462
This one is the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm4JEZudf0c
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I like Sheev v Yoda but only for two reasons: the music while the Chancellors podium activates and the podium rises to the Senate Rotunda, and when Sheev uses his telekensis to throw Senator platforms at Yoda

Obi-wan v Vader in ANH is meme tier to be honest, it wasn't that great outside of people viewing it with rose tinted glasses.

Vader v Luke in ROTJ is one of the best,
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>>64175515
memers will claim that "muh cgi flips" are better
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>>64175553

But thats literally what I just linked
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>>64175103
Poe was great,he start as character from the resistance like Leia with Hans flight skills and cockiness by the end of the movie.Finn was a good for nothing like Luke who maned up and started doing the right things by the end of the movie.Rey was too good.she started as a good character who just wanted to go on adventures.she was good with tech things and properly learned how to use a gun so you're were thinking ''thats the new hans solo'',heck she even met the guy who was impressed by her skills. then she start doing jedi mind tricks and telekinesis which threw her character in the garbage.why?
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>>64172223
>yikes
He's from tumblr guys.
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OFFICIAL CANON LIGHTSABER DUEL TIER LIST

>Duel of fates tier
Duel of fates

>god tier
Luke vs Vader (VI)
Obi-Wan vs Anakin (III)

>good tier
Kylo vs Rey and Finn
Luke vs Vader(V)

>decent/mediocre tier
Yoda vs Dooku
Anakin & Obi-Wan vs Dooku(III)

>bad tier
Sheev vs Dindu
Grievous vs Obi-Wan

>shit tier
Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader

>episode II tier
Obi-Wan & Anakin Vs Dooku(II)
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>>64171106
This fight was garbage. At least the prequels had kickass fights.
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>>64175515

I like how Kylo is just toying with him. When he slams him to the ground, he could have easily finished it, but he turned around and let him get up. Its not until he takes a blow to the arm that he decides enough is enough and wrecks him
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>>64175613
Fuck, wrong one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzq9epS2b1A
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>>64175685
he probably never had a real light saber duel and wanted to be like Anakin
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CORN ONNNNNNNN

THE COBBBBBBBBBBB

CORN ONNNNNNNN

THE KEBBABBBBBBBB
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>>64171391
he was fuckng op in the mini series
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>>64175515

Don't know about you but watching Finn get rekt was the best feels in this movie.

Fucking Dindu
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>>64175515
>finn running foward knowing hes gonna get his ass kicked
>Kylo ren bumping the pain to stay focused
>using his crossguards
oh yeah thats the stuff,do you have it with sound please?
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>>64175702
That was great but it wasn't better than return
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>>64175702

I stopped playing this game a while ago. That xpac looks like it was probably pretty good
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>people ITT actually like and defend the original fights

This is a joke right? They are laughably bad and cringe-worthy.
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Prequel fights are so over the top dumb, unreasonable, and silly while the OT ones were so slow, boring, and only interesting in a narrative sense.

TFA found a good happy median, so I vote for TFA.
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>>64175510
Wow, this was written like a facebook fag.

Yoda should have never had a lightsaber, and Dooku is just flailing around. Shit fight and shit taste.
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>>64174505

This. The TPM duel serves its purpose within the context it exists.

Contrary to naysayers' opinions, it's easy of course to ignore the clear indications the actors aren't trying to hit each other if you don't smash your face up against the screen and keep rewinding and playing the scene is slow motion.

And for all this constant talk of "muh emotion", I never felt the PT fights were lacking in emotion or meaning. I felt that the feeling they were trying to create and the meaning they carried was different, but that's all.
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>>64175911

Whatever fag. I love when he whips that little laser sword of his out and goes to town
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>>64175951
lol look at this shit opinion guys
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>0:20
oh shit my nigga finn got crossed
>0:36
he did it again,dayum.
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>>64175515
rey and kylo's fight

I thought this was worst than the one with finn because of the way rey was holding and striking with her lightsaber like sheev and an old woman
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>>64175951
is this a /shit opinion/ general ?
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>>64176043

this fight looks like fucking dogshit. Like fans playing with lightsabers outside the theater.
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Sheev vs 4 Jedi
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>>64176039
meant for this>>64175515
>>64176043
the jedi should have been finn.this fight is bullshit
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>>64176117
>its a sheev fight
>its a sheev is creepy scene
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>>64175049
Most correct I've seen so far. And it's explained
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>>64176120
finn's fights were much more fun

you could tell he was an amateur but with training he could be good
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>>64170956
Yoda vs doku and anakin vs obi.

I expected yoda vs sheev to be the best one but it was seriously short, weak and anticlimatic as fuck.
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>>64171121
This is actually good and accurate.
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>>64175647
Perfectly said.
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>>64172326
Good, good let the butthurt flow through you
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>>64176295
see? this is finn getting his ass kicked like the true MC he is.Again, do you have finn vs Kylo fight with sound? man a stormtrooper turning into a jedi that shit would have been fucking cash.
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>>64171121
Today anons opinions were actually worth a shit
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>>64171121

Anakin vs Obi Wan should be God Tier.

hands down one of the best fights ever made.
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>>64176043
Post the rest of the fight good anon
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