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Good God this movie was mediocre. What I'm about to write
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Good God this movie was mediocre. What I'm about to write will contain spoilers, so be warned.

First off, the movie was basically a rehash of the New Hope. Instead of blowing up a death star they blow up a BIG death star. By destroying one central weakness.

The Ren character is forgettable, has basically no character development, and took off his helmet to reveal his acne ridden face way too early.

Rey learns to use the force way too quickly, supposed to take years of training, even Luke and Anakin had to train for years.

It's also littered with plot holes, like how the new big death star was built by a new empire weaker and more poor than the old one, but able to build a weapon several times more expensive, without slave labor, when the old, richer empire nearly went bankrupt building the smaller one WITH slave labor.

The big death star also works by SUCKING IN THE STAR of the system, which first off would crush everyone on the planet as the insane mass would instantly cause fusion, no matter how many "heat oscillators" you got on there. Even so, it makes NO sense to build it at all. It's basically an EXTREMELY expensive project that takes YEARS AND YEARS, if not decades, and it can be fired ONCE. ONCE.

Also, why were all the commanders and generals so fucking young? Like no one even breached 35.

And why were they so surprised Finn decided to fuck off and desert? Surely he's not the first soldier to do so ever? They acted like it was a HUGE deal. They should be dealing with that a lot, or it's a MAJOR coincidence he just happens to do it on the planet with the main character.

Don't even get me started on all the bullshit deus ex machina and convenient shit that happened throughout either.

The whole movie is forgettable.

Overall 5/10.
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>The big death star also works by SUCKING IN THE STAR of the system, which first off would crush everyone on the planet as the insane mass would instantly cause fusion, no matter how many "heat oscillators" you got on there. Even so, it makes NO sense to build it at all. It's basically an EXTREMELY expensive project that takes YEARS AND YEARS, if not decades, and it can be fired ONCE. ONCE.
Hadn't heard this one yet. That's way more late-EU-level bullshit than I expected out of that thing.
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>>63703894
>Rey learns to use the force way too quickly, supposed to take years of training, even Luke and Anakin had to train for years.

But if she had to train for it how will the movie inspire stronk independent women?
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>>63703894
>Rey learns to use the force way too quickly, supposed to take years of training, even Luke and Anakin had to train for years.

but she's an empowerful womyn, anon!

why are you oppressing her?!?!?!
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>>63703894
it's just a movie turn of your brain brah
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>>63703894
>fired ONCE
but that's wrong
they were recharging to fire a second time
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>>63704579

leave it to JewJew to remake ANH except with his oc waifu self insert instead of luke
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>>63704604
>waifu self insert
You don't know the meaning to one of these terms.
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Couldn't they have just made KotOR instead?
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>>63704600
I noticed that. That means either the movie has a huge plothole, or the system they used had a binary star system, which basically cannot support stable systems for long, and even so would fuck everything over if one of the stars just disappeared.

Oh, and when the second star completely disappears, and the "light goes out" as they call it, THE PLANET IS STILL FUCKING LIGHT
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>>63704630

>implying a character can't be both
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You retards would've said the same thing regardless of the films quality. This "it's cool to hate everything" meme needs to fucking stay in 2015 where it belongs.
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>>63704650
AND ANOTHER THING.

When the planet collapses when they destroy the "heat oscillator" the star is "released" and is the SAME SIZE AS THE PLANET. WHY? The star should be WAY WAY WAY larger than the planet.
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>>63704683
You're right, 4chan never hated anything until 2015
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>>63704650

That's monumentally stupid on so many levels. How do hollywood script writers lack basic understanding of the world around them?
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>>63704683
OP here. I don't even go to /tv/ normally. I just came here to express my disappointment with the movie. I wanted it to be good, I really did. But it had so many issues. Not only from a lore perspective but from a cinematographic point of view as well. No character development, weak plot, flat characters, etc.
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>>63704683
>You retards would've said the same thing regardless of the films quality

this meme needs to stay in 2015 where it belongs
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>>63704728
Again, I think you would've said that regardless.
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>>63704683

i guess it's lucky for us that the movie is shit, allowing us to be correct when we say bad things about it
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>>63704683
there's hating to be cool and then there's "PLEASE DON'T CRITICIZE M-MUH HIGHLY ANTICIPATED THING I CAN'T BEAR IT!"

Both extremes are bad. OP doesn't sound like he's hating it to be cool
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The question is now anons, does the trilogy get better from here on out, or worse?
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>>63704728
And where do you go normally?
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>>63704764
We get it. Everything sucks.
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What were your thoughts on the interracial relationship? Did you feel culturally enriched?
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>>63704788
>>63704788
Reddit but I got downvoted a lot.
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>>63703894
By your logic, Return of the Jedi is also a rehash of the New Hope.

>how the new big death star was built by a new empire weaker and more poor than the old one
Technology has improved, they can build better things faster. Also they didn't built Starkiller, it was made on an already existing planet.

>The big death star also works by SUCKING IN THE STAR of the system, which first off would crush everyone on the planet as the insane m
Stopped reading here, try to apply your scientific logic to basically anything else in Star Wars

>And why were they so surprised Finn decided to fuck off and desert?
So you don't know actual shit about the Star Wars lore yet you try to find plot holes? They also acted like it was a huge deal because he escaped with the best pilot in the resistance.

TL;DR: Fuck off, the movie was fine. And you would see that too if you were as tolerant with the originals as you are with this one.
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>>63704706
This is coming from the same man who thinks "cold fusion" means an explosion that freezes everything around it.
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>>63704855
Shill
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>>63704786
they could get better only if somehow finn is a double agent and luke cuts him to pieces and bitchslaps the jewgirl for almost letting dark force enter her body.
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>>63704798
>>63704759
>>63704683
Literally reddit.
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what's with the sticky

Is this just straight up a place for redditors now?

Are people here actually affected by spoilers nowadays? Like, that'll ruin their perception of the movie for them? Just how big of a pleb is this mod for believing adults with a healthy interest in the art of film (it's a movie in this case though obviously) would ACTUALLY care about knowing details of the plot beforehand. >mUH PLOT

Not to mention, the star wars franchise is utterly overrated shit. We've had YEARS (despite the rule, before some faggot tries to quote it) of spoilers openly flying around and nobody batted an eye, because responsible adults don't cry. There's nothing left to conclude other than the mod is either a disney shill or a goy who fell for marketing.
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>>63704788
I don't normally post about movies at all. I don't write reviews, either. I did however post on /tv/ about Mad Max when I saw it, because I thought it was really, really good.

Don't get me wrong, the movie is not terrible, it's just mediocre and forgettable. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, and I still picked up on a bunch of things that made no sense, to the point that it took me right out of the movie.

>>63704830
It actually made sense. The storm troopers are taken away at birth to be trained ruthlessly (at least these new ones), the Finn character mistook regular kindness for love. He's still human. Rey reacts with confusion because of course she would. In fact, that the Finn character acted in a "macho" way or "stereotypically" male way, inadvertently makes the movie claim that a male human, when not exposed to society, ergo removing the "nurture" element will act in that way. They fucked up their own equality act.
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>>63704687
How do they not know that a star is way bigger than a planet? That's like 6th grade science lol
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>>63704798
Huge commercials made to sell Star Wars makeup and Star Wars oranges will suck. I realize that's what the original movies were for as well, but at least they had competent people working on them and they made you feel something.
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>>63704855
and here come the deluded Star Wars fans
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>>63704844
Fucking reddit
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>>63704883
>>63704963
feel free to actually put arguments in your posts.
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>you absolutely hate the popular movie
"Hell YEAHHHH!!! /tv/ was right once again!!! Female leads means it's SJW shit!!'
>you kinda liked the movie somehow
"STAR WARS FAN SHILLS ALERT!!!"

Why do I even come here
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Plinkett worthy or not?
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>>63705017
You can always fuck off back to reddit.
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>>63704855
>Technology has improved, they can build better things faster. Also they didn't built Starkiller, it was made on an already existing planet.
Details, it's basically a big Death Star. And return of the jedi had other things going for it, that this movie does not.

>Stopped reading here, try to apply your scientific logic to basically anything else in Star Wars
You should have kept reading. Even if we ignore that, it makes no sense to even build the weapon in the first place. It's retarded. And there's a difference between suspension of disbelief and allowing things to be scientifically inaccurate and the star of the system being the same size as a planet. That shit takes, at least me, right out of the movie.

>So you don't know actual shit about the Star Wars lore yet you try to find plot holes? They also acted like it was a huge deal because he escaped with the best pilot in the resistance
Not an argument, senpai.
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>>63704934
>I realize that's what the original films were for as well, but-

So shut the fuck up already, retard
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>>63704881
And yet he turned up at the premier like he was part of it and shit. He did fuck all.
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>>63704900
Nice counter argument
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Yo OP, how much is luke skywalker in it?
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>>63704855
>Technology has improved, they can build better things faster

then why are they still using the same tie fighters and x-wings?
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>>63705104
About 30 seconds. He has no lines.
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>>63705104
He shows up in the ending for 3-5 minutes. Also no lines.
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>an empire is collapsing
>technology has advanced

bravo
nolan
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Soundtrack leaked and it sounds like shit 2bh

https://mega.nz/#!DM5QWS5T

key:
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Rey beating Kylo is like Luke beating Vader when they fought the first time.

But of course Rey got GUUUUUURRLLLL POWWEERRR.
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>>63705158
now if only the movie could leak
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>>63704903
>I did however post on /tv/ about Mad Max when I saw it, because I thought it was really, really good.
But that also had flat characters and no character development which seem to be your main complaints.
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>>63705180
>over 15
>still think girls are icky
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Nothing was explained, either. Shit happens and people do things just because. The movie doesn't give you any reason to care about anything, it's banking entirely on "dude Star Wars is back, just sit back and relax lmao"
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>>63705180
This is true. Shit, even Episode I made the henchman villain threatening by having him kill a main character.

Actually, I thought Kylo was pretty good outside of his scenes with Rey. She's the problem because they made her super stronk and easily beat Kylo's mind powers and his force abilities.
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>>63705222
We get it. Everything sucks
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>>63705245
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>>63705017
>getting worried about what anonymous nerds on 4chan think of your opinion
Just be honest and take the heat nigga.

I love the 2014 Godzilla that /tv/ shat on mercilessly.
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>>63705222
>no character development
Also, it seems like you're criticizing me instead of my arguments/opinion.
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>>63705245
Autism: the post
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Does the amazon lady/chrome stormtrooper/whatever have a big role in this?
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>people actually expect a compelling and deep experience from a star wars movie
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>>63705233
>being biased because you are the same gender as someone

This is why feminism is trash, it's sexist
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>>63704683
t. Anakino Jarjarosa
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>>63705247
>>63705180
It's going to be revealed that Luke made her with the Force. Doesn't explain why Luke just dumped her off on a shitty desert planet where she could have died, probably won't be addressed.
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>>63705295
Empire did just that
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>>63705284
I don't remember anything about his character development except that he switched sides.

You like what you like and that's fine, as long as you're applying your standards consistently. If you don't apply them consistently that's still fine, but makes your reviews less useful.
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From what I am hearing about the movie, the biggest problem would be that Finn is the main character of most of the movie, but we know fucking nothing about him.
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I almost left the cinema when the whip-lightsaber got pulled out
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>>63705304
>It's going to be revealed that Luke made her with the Force. Doesn't explain why Luke just dumped her off on a shitty desert planet where she could have died, probably won't be addressed.
>Luke made a kid
>bailed
>kid grows up with daddy issues
>turns out to be coal burner
Poetry.
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>>63705282

Tru tru

Gotg was enjoyable
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>>63705292
Nope, just commands some Stormtroopers and is barely in it.
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>>63705304
Because finding him was the first part of her training or some shit.
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>>63703894

Well, /tv/, our worst fears were confirmed.

It was mediocre.
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>>63705345
And he ends up in a fucking coma, so chances are he'll be out for most of the second movie, too.
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>>63704855
>Star Wars lore
aka

>Shit autistic fans made up
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>>63705295
>dude chill don't expect so much ;-D

sounds like the film doesn't deliver even basic story telling, stop defending it
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>>63704903
>In fact, that the Finn character acted in a "macho" way or "stereotypically" male way, inadvertently makes the movie claim that a male human, when not exposed to society, ergo removing the "nurture" element will act in that way. They fucked up their own equality act.
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>>63705380
This is so true. If it was terrible it would be fun to shit on it. If it was awesome then it's worth watching.

But it's just ok.
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Rey is the chosen one so that's why she is so strong. It's heavily implicated in the film, but of course nobody here has seen it.
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I just want to point out that a new hope is also pretty forgettable in itself.
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>>63705297
What you just described isn't feminism
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>>63705468
She still should have to go on a hero's journey. She basically just skipped right to the end here. Luke was the chosen one in the first movies as well. He still performed a good hero's journey.
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>>63704590
Yeah I guess we should just continue to turn off our brain for everything, Right you useless trash?
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>>63705468
As in the one who will bring balance to the force?

Having the plot about "being the chosen one" rehashed and shitting all over the conclusion of the first trilogy about that is almost insulting.
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>>63705512
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic, bro.
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>>63705512
Calm down
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>>63705511
>Luke
>The chosen one
Luke wasn't anything special.
The only particular thing he had over anyone was his relationship with Vader.
And even that is post into question by episode 6 when Vader pulls out of his ass that he knows that Leia too is his daughter.

In the end he gets beat up by the Emperor and only suceeds in his mission due to:
1) Vader betraying his master
2) Han Solo and Leia doing their mission.

So even if you do insist on calling Luke "the chosen one" he didn't succeed because of that.
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>>63705588
And in every book, comic, or any other noncanon/eu source ever written he is described as being the greatest force user that ever lived. Gtfo.
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>>63705047
well, the entire movie gravitates around his character tho
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>First off, the movie was basically a rehash of the New Hope
Factually incorrect.

>The Ren character is forgettable, has basically no character development
One of the best parts of the film and he had even more character development than Vader did in A New Hope.

>Rey learns to use the force way too quickly, supposed to take years of training, even Luke and Anakin had to train for years.
At the end of A New Hope Luke uses the force to guide a photon nuke into a very tiny hole while flying an X-Wing.

>It's also littered with plot holes, like how the new big death star was built by a new empire weaker and more poor than the old one
Technological advances take place at a much faster rate in the Star Wars universe. 30 years of technological advancement in the SWU is like 30 years of technological advancement in our universe. Slave labor and loads of money weren't necessary.

>The big death star also works by SUCKING IN THE STAR of the system, which first off would crush everyone on the planet as the insane mass would instantly cause fusion
Literally only an autist would complain about something like this in a space opera movie for kids.

>Also, why were all the commanders and generals so fucking young?
Majority of the older officers died in the previous war. Most of the First Order are young edgy kids that want to relive the glory days of the Empire. Basically like /pol/ NEETs that fancy themselves National Socialists.

>And why were they so surprised Finn decided to fuck off and desert? They acted like it was a HUGE deal.
Strawman. They didn't act like it was as huge of a deal as you're making it out to be.

>Don't even get me started on all the bullshit deus ex machina and convenient shit
So just like the original trilogy and like any other fantasy-adventure story?

>The whole movie is forgettable.
Factually incorrect. It's the most important movie release of the decade whether you like it or not. The very opposite of forgettable.
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>>63705642
>Expanded universe shit when we are discussing the fucking movie
>GTFO
Seems you are the one who doesn't want to discuss /tv/ related topics in a /tv/ thread, mate.

But even if we do go there, none of that shit had anything to do with his Hero journey, who happened and even had a climax on the contest of the three movies.
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>>63705512
Autism
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>>63705704
300 years*
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>>63703894
Were there at least some cools lens flares?
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>>63703894

Some anon suggested that Ren is Force made manifest hence she has no parents and thus the movie title.
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>>63705704
Theres no need to shil for the biggest box office of all time
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>>63705704
>Factually incorrect
>Factually incorrect
kid, you really don't have to try to dress up a simple "no"

>Strawman
haven't even see the movie but man i hope you're as young as you seem, otherwise you might not grow out of being such an idiot, kid
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BRING BACK GEORGE
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I just want to know, did they overuse CGI or were awesome spacecraft models back?
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>>63705769
You mean Rey. Also she's the reincarnation of all Jedi Master who knows how into immortality. She's literally the force. Finn is also Lando's son
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>>63705704
This reads like Christian apologetics.
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>>63705718
>mate
fuck off retarded strayacunt subhuman

luke beat vader in martial combat then was able to beat the emperor by taking a pacifist stance towards his father at the end

he had the physical toughness and the mental fortitude
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>>63705704
>It's the most important movie release of the decade whether you like it or not.
>important
>important
why?
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>>63705903
because star wars defines an entire generation anon. this movie will literally be some people's childhood, don't you know?
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>>63705940
>star wars defines an entire generation

An entire generation of pathetic virgin neets
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So neither Luke nor Jar Jar are the bad guy?


Dropped.
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>>63704687
Why would the star pop back out back to its original size? Also stop trying to science Star Wars. It's fucking fantasy yo.
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>>63705974
even if you're not being serious, you surely see the irony of calling other people pathetic virgin neets while posting on fucking 4chan of all places, right?
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>>63704650
I figured the weapon just moved from one system to another, using up a star to charge itself each time.
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>>63703894
All of the this, op!

I put this on Plebbit, but received le downboted

>Thought the film was incredibly pedestrian though. Weird humor, stilted dialogue, ANH 2.0, lens flare, weird cuts, predictable, falls on its face in the second act, and is quite frankly, forgettable. The leads were so uninteresting. Finn at least could act between the yelling, but Rey was terrible. They clearly re-dubbed a lot of her lines. Disappointing.
I'm now interested in Rogue One more than any future episodic SWs films.
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The main character has to kill their father or nuke Tatooine
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>>63705704
>Technological advances take place at a much faster rate in the Star Wars universe. 30 years of technological advancement in the SWU is like 30 years of technological advancement in our universe. Slave labor and loads of money weren't necessary.

then why are they flying the same x-wings and tie fighters?
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>>63705974
>just like your ass posting on 4chan
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>>63706098
>mfw that's actually kind of accurate
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>>63704635
The only reason I want to like this flick it because, I think, the bad guy looks like Reven.
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>>63703894
What really fucked me off was that the republic's fleet was a dozen x-wings. Like where were the fucking capital ships, where the fuck was anything but x-wings.
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>say hi to Greedo for me

are you fucking serious?
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>>63705304
DUDE MIDCHLORIANS LMAO!
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>>63705940
star defined an entire generation 30 years ago, the newer sequels havent defined shit
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So whos being paid here to shill star wars here?
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>>63703894
who is the big bad guy?

kylo is noob tier, seems to get beaten by women untrained
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>>63705704
>Luke uses the force to guide a photon nuke

What no,.He used Force focus or Force crosshair or whatever. He didn't learn Force telekinesis until ESB.
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>>63706275
anon, that woman is luke skywalkers son
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>>63705940
> this movie will literally be some people's childhood
that's why the next generation will suck. if i saw this movie as a kid i would be a complete retard probably. this shit lowers peoples iq.
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How the FUCK does Han find Rey and Finn in the Falcon in space? Was he just flying and was like "oh shit it's my HOME! Chewie look it's our HOUSE!!!"
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>>63706298
like i give a shit

the point is the bad guys is WEAK AS FUCK.

and luke was just good in the return of the jedi, before he was no match for vader, so don't bring me luke's daughter excuse
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>Also, why were all the commanders and generals so fucking young? Like no one even breached 35.

Because Youth is the new ideal, and hollywood is pushing that really really hard. Beforewas knowledge, and after was money, and after money, beauty. Now its all about being young.
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>>63706379
if kylo is not the bad guy, who is the Evil big bad boss ???
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>>63703894
Is the scene where Han gets killed really as ridiculous as the leaked pictures make it to be?
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>>63703894
>Rey learns to use the force way too quickly, supposed to take years of training, even Luke and Anakin had to train for years.

What do you mean by learns to use the force?

Luke blew up the Deathstar with the force as an amateur.

Is she like a pro-lightsaber combatant without any training or something?

Also, Rey's mother is probably Mara Jade (or JJ's replacement for her), so she could be stronger in the force than even Luke.
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Who the fuck is Snoke
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>>63706419
If the spoilers are true there's some The Room tier dialogue in it. Something like

>YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, LISA
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>>63706446
JJ's mystery box for epVIII
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>>63705180
>Rey beating Kylo is like Luke beating Vader when they fought the first time.

Except Vader had 30+ years of experience under his belt then.

Ren is essentially the same age as Rey
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maybe Kylo is supposed to become really strong over the movies, like evil Luke
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>>63706414
Kylo is the bad guy who becomes the good guy probably towards the end of Episode VIII after some revelation. Calling it now.
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>>63706433

She beats Ren with a lightsaber, withstands his mind control and then mind controls a stromtrooper all within 15minutes.

It's so fucking stupid.
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>>63706045
>>63706130
Ad hominem. You know it's true faggots
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>>63706379
REY IS LITERALLY THE FORCE WHAT THE FUCK

SHES A STRONK WHITE WOMYN WHO DONT NEED NO WOMB
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>>63706465
That would actually be a cool way to go with the franchise
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>>63706433
She pretty much spontaneously learns to force grab, Jedi mind trick, and lighstaber fight without prior training.
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>>63706501
Force training is a construct of the Patriarchy.
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>>63706475
>after doing you know what

Nope. Rabid dogs must be put down.

I'm pissed off now but I'll be even more pissed off if the cunt kills Luke.
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>>63706433
She beats Kylo Ren in their first fight with lightsabers and establishes she has stronger force powers than him without any training whatsoever. The next encounter will be so riveting.
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>>63706501
Either she was a trained Jedi who conveniently had amnesia or >>63706480
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WHO IS THE BAD GUY THEN IF KYLO IS THAT WEAK
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>>63706477

Deterring his mind-control isn't anything special for someone powerful in the force.

Beating him in lightsaber combat is kind of dumb, but it seems like she has combat experience without a saber.

Mind-Controlling without training is dumb though
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>>63706501

Isn't force pull like the most basic of force moves though?
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>>63705804
Yeah seriously this kid's glib is fascillie as fuck
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>>63704706
Why would you destroy AN ENTIRE STAR SYSTEM to begin with? What is left to rule then? Does the Empire want to rule over empty space? LIke how stupid this whole concept is to begin with.
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>>63706558
the ayyy lmao being posted named snoke
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>>63706558

Boba Fett?
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In before /tv/ believes George Lucas was right all along.
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>>63706163
they had to make 12 practical x-wings and didn't feel like making anything else.
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>>63704635
Lucas hates EU because it's better than his shit movies. We will never get a SW movie with proper, threatening villains and a war that means something.
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>>63706616
it's like poetry

or the zelda cycle
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>>63706616
Certainly more right than JJ Abrams.
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>>63706571
>Mind-Controlling without training is dumb though
>forgetting that flyng jew from episode one
>forgetting Jabba the Butt
Wow do you even star wars
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>>63706599

Maybe they're trying to starve the Tyranids
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Is it only the new x-wings? No new other ships like the C-wing or whatever?
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>>63706599
I think its based off Yuuzong Vong type stuff basically the borg so they designed a weapon to take out whole planets and stop the spread

tl;dr
cut out space cancer with space laser
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>>63706599
Yeah this new """ empire"""" is dumb as fuck. Palpatine was the last great emperor.
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>>63706684

No i'm saying being able to mind control people without training is dumb, resisting mind control I can understand
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I'm listening to the soundtrack - WTF its literally A New Hope soundtrack......????
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>>63706599
For the same reason you'd destroy a whole planet. It's a hammer to do a pincer's job but it's effective? Stands to reason major sides would rule over a star system rather than single planets within it. If you're fighting and you can remove the star or make it go nova, it's a perfectly decent tactic. If you're crazy, that is, but I guess the Sith apply.
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>>63706733

>JJ was so scared of messing up that he just tried to remake A New Hope

At least George had the balls to try new things
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>>63706463
Inside JJ's mystery box?

>a dreidel
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>>63706719
Unless you're the force incarnate or had Skywalker blood.
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so it's just a brainless pandering fan service

I didn't expect anything more, so can't say that I'm disappointed
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>>63706599
>turning star systems into literal DARK SIDES when you take away their light
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>>63706733
Except it isn't. The film only re-uses two classic themes, Han's and Leia's. You sure are 'le epic troll'.
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>>63706762

>The Force Incarnate

So Rey is going to turn into a Sith Lord?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Oneness
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JJ always does the SAME SHIT. With Star Trek he had the bad buys ships be biggerer and betterer too.
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>>63706792
Did you listen to the soundtrack you fuck? I know wtf I'm talking about I've listened to star wars music my entire life.
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>>63706826
the whole movie is about nostalgia pandering, are you really surprised it sounds similar to the movie they are copying?
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>>63706826
I've seen the film, shitmop. You clearly haven't. Also the soundtrack hasn't been released yet, like anywhere. So go stay in your delusional bubble of shit, but don't bother me with your 'epic troll' posts, faggot.
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>>63706857
Shut up faggot go fucking kill yourself.
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>>63706755
in 20 years the prequels will be considered challenging and misunderstood classics while ep7 will only be mentioned with a wince of embarrassment. mark my words
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>>63706809
>JJ always does the SAME SHIT

Explain where time travel happens in TFA
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>>63706795
Yes and Kylo Ren will kill/redeem her

I'll take your shekels now Disney.
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>>63706886
Explain how you will ever lose your virginity.
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>>63703894
Listening to the soundtrack. Better than prequel music but not as good as OT, somewhere in between. Also...what does Snoke look like?
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>>63706886
it doesn't have to. the point is to reboot the thing with younger people and in tfa he managed to do it without time travel
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Yeah I just got home from seeing this and I'd say it's a 6/10 at very best

It just didn't grip me at all honestly

It felt like nothing had any emotional impact and there was never any sense of suspension

Finn's character really just baffles me, like what is his role in this movie? Is he supposed to be the new Han? He has none of the charisma required for that.
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>>63706924
Your mom is giving me a ride.
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I really would like to know how Han lost the Millenium Falcon, his most valuable posession
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>>63706968
in a card game
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>>63706857
Hey idiot...check
>>63705158
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Ren was a pretty cool character until they showed him fighting

He had way too much trouble dealing with some fucking non-forceuser wielding a light sabre or a girl who might be strong in the force but has zero jedi training

I know he was wounded from the shot Chewie took at him on that bridge but it's still bullshit that he was so weak
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>>63706857
>shitmop
>bubble of shit

Disgusting. You sound like you have a scat fetish.
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>>63706990
nice virus
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>>63707016
>but has zero jedi training
WE WUZ AMNESIA AND SHEEIT
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>>63705903
It's not important. The kid loves his nostalgia, anon. It's best to ignore them right now. Let their inner manchild settle down first.
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>>63703894
>The big death star also works by SUCKING IN THE STAR of the system, which first off would crush everyone on the planet as the insane mass would instantly cause fusion, no matter how many "heat oscillators" you got on there. Even so, it makes NO sense to build it at all. It's basically an EXTREMELY expensive project that takes YEARS AND YEARS, if not decades, and it can be fired ONCE. ONCE.
almost as bad as the red matter shit in star trek 09… actually that shit was way worse.
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So why is it so hard for hollywood to make good original stories? Has everything been done?
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>>63705180
>Luke beating Vader when they fought the first time

Last time I checked Luke got his ass handed to him by his poppa, Vader.
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>>63707132
There is nothing new under the sun
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>>63707146
I think he meant that would be the equivalent to Rey beating Kylo Ren desu
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>>63707168
Ah i see.
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>>63705403
That guy in the back in the blue shirt and glasses lmfao.

That's probably how a lot of people felt and they should've grown a pair and been like "George, George my friend, you need to rethink this, this shit ain't gonna work."
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>>63707167
It's time to kill.
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i just don't get it. i thought one of the big successes of star wars was that it was such an original endeavour with a big budget and amazing special effects and a unique setting. and then abrams goes and does exactly the same fucking thing that has already been done, takes ZERO risks and just rehashes a new hope, and people act like it's the second coming of christ. have we forgotten why the originals were so good or what??
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>>63707042
Holy fuck you seriously are a fucking moron.
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>>63705940
Fuck off, jj, you won't define shit
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>>63705588
Um yeah it was all a part of Luke's destiny. Leia didn't make those decisions, and didn't wind up in the situations that Luke did.

There was his relationships and the Force and blah blah, but in the end it was cool because Luke himself made unexpected choices that only he would make, because he was a good motherfucker, and it changed everything.

It appears you have forgotten the ancient prophecy about the Force! /sarcasm
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>>63707298

But the originals were not good either.

Star Wars is an overhyped money making machine, that's all. There's no depth or interest to it.
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>>63707360
>There's no depth
It's a story of redemption that takes three movies, by modern blockbuster standards it's fucking War and Peace
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>>63706968
It was stolen from him then stolen from the people who stole it, and stolen again.
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>>63706104
they're not the same if they have different paint on them.
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>>63707360
yet the universe where the story takes place is kind of interesting, isn't it anon? Same thing with lotr i think.
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CAMRIP WHEN
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>>63706163
They're not the Republic, they're the Resistance who are an extreme branch of the Republic.

Much like ISIS doesn't represent all Muslims.
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>>63703894
well they had 3 decades to build it right? It's not like they built it in a year or so like the Death Star II.
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>>63706708
>last great emperor
>also the first
Uh?
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>>63707132
Because Hollywood:
Decideds to make a movie about something they believe will make them money
Set a date for release
Then start writing the fucking script
It's totally ass-backwards, and results in hacky derivative scripts rushed for the production
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>>63707167
I'm a writer and I wrote a better Episode VII last night in about 35 minutes.

Please stop with this sad meme. There are plenty of new things, and plenty of starving unemployed writers who can't find work because massive corporations will only push this generic shit on purpose.

Watch indie films or read books, you niggers, jesus.
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>>63707042
Wow anon not all anons are fags like you. Its just a soundtrack rip, I'm listening to it now and its not too bad.

Just dl and say "thanks"
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>>63707396
The Emperor approves of this post.
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>>63705826
>Finn is also Lando's son
Can anyone else confirm this?
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>>63707735
>Watch indie films or read books, you niggers, jesus.

Maybe you're not getting hired because you're a racist prick.
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>>63707822
Or maybe he just cant write as good as he thinks kek
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>>63707858
you're correct.
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>>63707858
>Or maybe he just cant write as good as he thinks kek
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>>63707735
Let's see it, bitch.
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>>63707709
>the first
>the last
>the greatest
POTTERY
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>>63707822
Is this nigger serious?

Protip: not everyone who says nigger is a racist. I grew up listening to 2Pac, Dre, and Ice Cube, child. The word nigger to me is comfy and awesome, and honestly words shouldn't upset people that much anyway but everyone today is a giant sjw pussy.

Stay acting like a bitch for your entire life.Reddit will always be there for you.
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>>63707817
you dont need confirmation he is a nigger and his pather doesnt appear whant any more proof?
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>>63706464
Yes, that makes sense.

Same age. Same everything.

Says the 23 year old med student fighting a kick boxing champion of the same age.
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>>63707167
Nothing is 100% original but there's a difference from being influenced by something and blatantly retreading the same shit
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>>63707903
Pretty sure the entire internet is a comfort zone so I'm not sure where you're going with the reddit junk.
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>>63707903
>comfy
Why are you wasting your time trying doing screenwriting you're obviously the next Hemingway
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>>63705247
>She's the problem because they made her super stronk and easily beat Kylo's mind powers and his force abilities.

Wait....she kicked the main villain's ass in the first movie of the trilogy?
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>>63705180
>>63706464

It took Luke 3 movies to beat Vader. The first time they actually fought he lost. Ren is similar to Vader in that they both killed all the Jedi and shit and he obviously has more experience
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>>63707909
This. Also how many niggers do you see in the SW universe?

>>63707961
The main villain is Poe. Cap this post.
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>>63707961
Kylo is more of a sidekick isn't he? He looks cool though so it's disappointing.
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>>63705403

In a way, I sort of feel bad for Lucas. It probably takes a lot of guys to write a story and put it out there for everyone to judge, criticize, and (in his case) mock mercilessly. What I don't understand is why did nobody working with him in any of the prequels ever say "hey George, this part doesn't really make sense, do you think you could maybe rewrite it">
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>>63707978
>The main villain is Poe. Cap this post.
Holy fuck, did they really wasted that character? Hopefully there's more of him in VIII.
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>>63707997
Because poor George got rid of everyone who dared criticize him and surrounded himself with lackeys
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>>63707735
>I'm a writer and I wrote a better Episode VII last night in about 35 minutes.
Link to the googled doc
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>>63707858
Please, let me worry about what /tv/ thinks of my writing ability.

Stay cucked, /tv,/ you're the flagship board for oversensitive sjw teenagers.
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>>63707997
*probably takes a lot of guts

Although it probably took a lot of guys too, most movies usually do.
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>>63708042
>Stay cucked, /tv,/ you're the flagship board for oversensitive sjw teenagers.

Or inbred racists. Remember, the whole internet is a comfort zone for sjw teens and, ofc. scum like you.
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>>63704855
>Stopped reading here, try to apply your scientific logic to basically anything else in Star Wars

They walk on the ground and the gravity is consistent.
They breathe air
They require certain temperatures
Stars can form
Elements and metals exist
It takes energy to reach orbit
heat exists

From that we can derive a great deal about how the universe works. So fuck off saying there's no science in star wars.
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>>63707132
They're in it to make money, not take risks. They aren't looking to reinvent the wheel, so they'll keep movies formulaic to appeal to broad audiences.
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>>63705031

Most certainly. The average person will need their hand held to understand why the movie is bad on all levels except set and costume design.
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>>63705031
Absoloutely, have to wait a year though.
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>>63707961
That's incredibly dumb. Why would a random grill with no training who might be force sensitive be able to beat a nigga who slaughtered the jedi

Not even Luke could do that, he spent the entire first movie mostly avoiding Vader
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>>63704683
DUDE CURRENT YEAR LMAO
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>>63708040
Do you guys like not believe it's possible?

You could probably write a better one yourself in a comment.

Start like this - The New Republic is struggling to govern systems thrown into turmoil by the dissolution of the Empire. A charismatic Imperial leader has taken advantage of this and is swaying systems in upheaval to the Empire's side by a new Imperial doctrine. Leia urges Luke Skywalker, the last remaining Jedi, to help her confront this new threat, but Luke is hesitant to train new Jedi after what he's learned of the Dark Side. Han Solo is still an asshole, but Han and Leia's twin children are Luke's brightest prospects for new Jedi.

Do not start like this - So there's a new Death Star and our hero lives on a backwater desert planet.

WRITING IS HARD.
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Shortly after the events of the Battle of Endor, The New Republic is trying to assert itself on the galactic level. The worlds of the galaxy are demanding that the Republic answers for their actions in overthrowing the empire, most notably the illegal murders of all the personnel on both death stars and the Executor, many of which hailed from these same worlds.

Named among the guilty is the destructor of the First Death Star, the terrorist known as Luke Skywalker. He has fled his punishment and is now in hiding. The movie follows him alone and his encounters with some new and many familiar locales of the Star Wars universe. The Empire did not die with the emperor however, and there are several Warlords vying for power, and the fate of the Republic is uncertain both politically and militarily.

Will the jedi outcast serve the light once more? or will he forever walk in shadow?
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>>63706703
It's shit and Im glad Disney made that Morang Tong crap not canon.
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>>63708103
You know your reactionary garbage is freshman college level? You literally do not think, just spout liberal crap you've been conditioned to spout from authority figures because you're an idiot sheep.

You even misuse the word racist and throw it out immediately over 'danger words' like the evil, evil N-word that should never fall on the pure ears of the morally upright liberal college children who will remake the world in their progressive image.
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>>63708368

Shut up, N'wah.
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