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Jenny "Tits" Flint edition.
Literally spitting everywhere: >>63019870.
The Name of the Doctor is the only good Jenny/Vastra episode.
Somebody post Clara.
First for Clala constant companion
>>63029134
No. She's dead now. The Clara waifu age is over.
>>63029096
Vastra is better in every way.
Reminder Donald Sumpter's playing Rassilon.
Oswin, another dropped Moffat plot.
>>63029372
There was literally nothing more to be done with her after Asylum.
>>63029345
Looks more like Borusa. Any of Borusa.
But it's probably Rassilon.
>>63029372
She could suck my screw.
>>63029343
Those eyes
HHNNNNNNGGG
>>63029345
Is Merlin total shit or actually half decent.
>>63029372
How is that a dropped plot?
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2015/11/anthony-read-241115200008.html
RIP Tony Reid, based writer of Nimon
>>63029345
*the Valeyard.
Molly Quinn for next companion
Next companion will be black. I just have a feeling.
>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Clara_Oswin_Oswald#Clara_Oswin_Oswald
22,000 fucking words
>>63029388
You're retarded. Who is she?
>>63029372
Big Finish series when?
>>63029479
Oswin, a Clara splinter that crashed on the asylum and got turned into a Dalek. What else do you need?
I've heard a rumor that the doctor has been sent to the matrix by Missy who is waiting for him there, and the next episode will be similar to the deadly assassin episodes 2// Trial Of a timelord 13/14.
Is this bullshit or has it been confirmed?
Oh shit clara died?
>>63029732
She wasn't brave enough.
https://twitter.com/davidclewis/status/669252181007187968
What could possible piss off GB and other autist bases?
Muh looms? Half-human? Clara's being alive?
>>63029710
Not missy, Rassilon
>>63029421
It starts off for kids, gets pretty dark towards the end.
Kind of like Who.
I'm pretty sure it was aired on CBBC and they had to cut a lot of stuff out from it for MUH CHILDREN
>>63029710
Confirmed.
>>63029732
Yep, Now the question is will she actually stay dead and completely break the nuwho mold or will there be some shitty save where she gets separated from the doctor but gets to live on possibly with Danny Pinkus?
If she actually stays dead for real, I will be both surprised and delighted.
>>63029732
Fun fact: the Doctor takes the memories of Clara and puts them inside her splinters. He's done it to nearly all of them at this point. He of course removes the part where she died and their last adventure so she has no idea. This very last time though, he doesn't do it. He connects her to the TARDIS and speaks with his telepathically. Tells him she doesn't want him to do it. He goes to the diner, where the very last splinter is but decides not to take that splinters life away. Clara Oswald has died too many times. He lets go.
>>63029732
She was a female who didn't know her limits and she paid the ultimate price for over straining her tiny little squirrel brain too hard and not just relying on the superior male Doctor to do all her thinking and fighting for her before telling her how she should feel about it all.
>>63029797
Clala constant companion
>>63029421
It's a good show. If you like NuWho then you'll like Merlin. And that pic isn't from Merlin, it's from SJA. Pic related is Donald Sumpter's character from Merlin.
>>63029878
donald sumpter is in everything
and now he's rassilon in DW
cant wait
>>63029797
>yfw Claras last line is>Today's special is pancakes
ITS A FUCKIGN DALEK EPISODE
>>63029792
Don't be silly. Speshiul people don't actually die in nuwho. They get to live on in some contrived manor. Clala will survive in some way just like River... Remember this is the generation who cant even handle a regeneration without having their hand held by having the last doctor making a nice cameo begging them not to leave the show.
>>63029905
He's also one of the only likeable characters in Jeckyll and Hyde right now..
>>63029998
Which piece of canon are they going to fucking destroy today?
>>63030025
This cover needs doctors photoshopped in.
>>63029998
Google says that image is from Into The Dalek
>>63030025
So the splinters thing is true, and on some world or some time A Clara is a waitress? I guess it softens the blow for the kiddywinks. Shame I will take great delight in explaining to them on a regular basis that that one isn't the "real" Clara that they loved. She died horribly in some London Street because she was being a stupid cunt.
>>63029905
He also been in who before several times 3 different characters plus once in sarah jane.
>>63030138
Im on it
>>63029998
Would that actually be a problem though?
If the Doctor actually does find Gallifrey, the Daleks would be a fitting antagonist. Surely there were a few still on the planet when it shifted, so the plot would be "Clear out remaining Daleks while putting up with Rassilon's bullshit.".
>>63029454
>pale skin blue eyes
Great more white people. It's 2015 ppl ffs
>>63030132
Honestly if they just retconned all of 10's Dalek stories that'd make the series better.
>>63029454
Just go watch some Samantha Rone vids mate.
We really need to see Jenny kicking ass in tight leather again.
>>63030321
I know you're shitposting, but in all seriousness, bring back Journey Blue. We need a Leela or Ace like companion who'll just shoot a problem or bomb the shit out of it.
Big Finish Eighth Doctor > Series 9 television Who.
>>63030351
Id rather they picked a hot black chick./ Like the girl who played Martha's sister.
>>63030333
what was so bad about those Dalek stories? I thought all the 11 ones were pretty terrible
>>63030390
>Big Finish Eighth Doctor > Series 9 television Who.
BF Eighth Doctor has shitton of stories. Be more specific.
I'd say last two seasons of Dark Eyes are worse than s9.
>>63030425
The anticlimactic cybermen vs dalek war? Daleks in Manhattan? A reality bomb?
Everything was wrong with them, anon. Nothing is salvageable about any 10 Dalek appearance. Except that 1 davros quote.
The BBC will not choose another black female companion because if they did they would not be able to continue their kektacular racemixing policy. We all know that Black Women/White Men is a no no, but Black Men/White Women is encouraged.
The one time they tried it with Martha, they realized their mistake and got her married off to Mickey the bull.
So this is like the third time Clara has died on the show?
Yeh she's not going anywhere
>>63029372
What happened with all that computer knowledge she downloaded? One minute she was a hacking genius and the next she was as derpy as the rest of us.
>>63030514
She's as gone as the Ponds were. At the end of God Complex.
>>63030493
What the fuck am I reading
>>63030397
God, Martha's sister was so fucking sexy.
>>63030536
The Power of Three should've been the Pond's last episode.
They didn't have to die.
>>63030493
He should have a Chinese companion to cater for the Asian market. My preference would be Gemma Chan.
Based on current BBC political climate the next companion will be either:
-Transgender
-Wheelchair-bound
-Muslima wearing headscarf
-Some other combination of gay and disabled
>>63030602
In britain, "asian" means indian, so I vote a cutie paki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK1KVwefIqA
This song always reminds me of Doctor Who. Any of you experience the same thing with other songs?
>>63030589
This is one of Moffat's trademarks, he can't leave well enough alone and will run every good idea into the ground.
Look at the Weeping Angels, fantastic idea but will turn up as easily defeated b-grade fodder these days.
>>63030606
Davros confirmed next companion
>>63030493
What is Scandal, what is The Flash, what is Sleepy Hollow.
>>63030606
What the fuck am I reading
>>63029758
>https://twitter.com/davidclewis/status/669252181007187968
Black people playing Celts though...
>>63030638
shows that
a.are not doctor who
b. not made by the BBC
c. Not even British.
MASSIVE HELL BENT SPOILER:In the same way that UNIT is female-fronted, so too is the new High Council of Gallifrey. All of the important characters are portrayed by women. One of the male characters regenerates into a woman. The Rani is the big bad.
>>63030357
Even the Doctor wants to tap dat sweet ass
>>63030514
>So this is like the third time Clara has died on the show?
Echoes doesn't count
>>63030669
Urghhhh, mostly women would have been fine but all women is just denying good male actors a paycheck for the sake of it.
>>63030673
She did good in "Scavenger"
>>63030669
>>63030697
Bullshit. Even though General might regenerate, President is still male.
And no way Rani's behind it all out of nowhere.
Let's face it nuwho is the epitome of an SJW show full of agendas. It has been since that well known poofter wrote that first coalburning kiss with Rose and Micky in Trafalgar square.
>>63030721
Still a fair point about UNIT, all female is just as bad as all male.
This needs to be called out more.
>>63030669
Yeno the Rani being behind the Heaven sent wouldn't suprise me the whole place looks like a experiment lab disguised as a castle which is meant to break the Doctor. I could see it being run by the Rani under orders from Rassilion.
>>63030729
>well known poofter
Who do you think JNT and Waris Hussein were?
>>63030749
It was forever thus.
>>63030734
Tumblr be praising that all female Unit tho
doctor who more like doctor poo
>>63030673
CBBC?
A kid version?
>>63030767
It's Rani from Sarah Jane's spinn-off.
No relation to time lord Rani.
>>63030767
The actress is 25 now, time to graduate to the big leagues.
>>63030697
It worked seamlessly when they included a bunch of Japanese, Middle Eastern and Asian actors throughout the series, but sometimes it broke my suspension of disbelief. The military won't even take you if you're colourblind, but they make a deaf woman an officer? You're telling me they're were no other suitable candidates who weren't deaf? And where is UNIT recruiting all these female soldiers from? Aren't they supposed to be the best of the best? There are literally no women in combat roles in the British army, what pool are they recruiting from? Why the spend the time and money to train a female candidate from scratch when there are thousands of men with combat experience ready to take on the position?
>>63030765
What's the defence if they get called out on it?
>>63030729
Casts a tranny.
Makes a big deal about it
looks all progressive and tumblr friendly.
Casts her as an ugly grunt that is despised by humanity
Was Gatiss trying to make a point or was it as lelly as casting black actors as intergalactic car thieves/chop shop owners trying to heist the TARDIS/
>>63030887
Those three would have worked so much better if they were played as bumbling comedic working class stooges, instead of playing it serious and making us wonder how seriously retarded the script is.
>>63030794
>thinking Doctor Who is primarily British based
This has been a US show for a long time
>>63030788
>>63030793
No, the channel. Not the actress.
>>63030933
Weak b8.
>>63030793
Rape porn?
>>63030794
You've missed the point here by a long stretch
>>63030930
Casting 3 actors who could actually act would have been an improvement.
Seriously, I re watched JTTCOTT the other day and I was amazed how poor the three brothers were.
Proberbly the worst actors in nuwho history.
I've seen HB. Moffat has completely retconned everything we know about Gallifrey. Trust me – it's even worse than the 12-meets-baby-Davros thing. And the identity of the hybrid is sure to make /who/ buttmad. It's some seriously Tumblr writing.
>>63031044
What about Chloe Webber, Danny Splink
and while we're at it No Not The Mind Probe time lord and Soldeed?
>>63031070
>Moffat has completely retconned everything we know about Gallifrey
The only thing that would qualify is MUH LOOMS.
>>63031070
When are we going to reboot this series again?
>>63031083
The last two are classic who and Soldeed (Graham Crowden) was actually a decent actor. He was told to ham it up by the director and encouraged by Tom Baker. But you may have a point about Chloe Webber.
>>63029345
He literally looks like the valeyard.
>>63030606
didn't like the meme when they had that muslim paki doctor
Clara has a contender for most important girl in the universe...
;).
>>63030333
The daleks surviving the time war in a void ship is canon. I don't care about anything else, but that bit needs to be true and the point where they returned. Fuck the emperor falling through time, he came in the void ship.
>>63030865
Muh diversity or some shit
>>63031070
>Moffat has completely retconned everything we know about Gallifrey.
Just like they did between the three doctors and deadly assassin and then again in arc of infinity and again in the end of time?
Almost every-time we see Gallifrey, the planet and time lord society seems different from the last.
>>63031188
You mean "child of the tardis" riversong?
>>63031228
This time, it's more to do with the function of Time Lords themselves. i.e: why Time Lord society came to exist in the first place. I get the feeling it's going to be one of those love-it-or-hate-it things among fans.
>tfw Clara is finally dead.
>>63031269
desu I don't really care anymore. Did the doctor leave Gallifrey because he was bored or was their another reason? Moffat seems intent on completely changing the basic established facts of the show to suit his purpose and their is fuck all anyone can do about it. It wouldn't surprise me if he brought back the whole half human thing on a whim either.
>>63030138
was it even worth it
>>63031337
>It wouldn't surprise me if he brought back the whole half human thing on a whim either.
It would help soothe his autism.
>The McGann rumours are true, he's returning to the show but 8 is the Hybrid.
How does /who/ react?
Is the doctor suppose to be an alien? Why even have a human companion if the doctor doesn't even have a different view of philosophy.
>>63031376
here we go
>>63031337
>the whole half human thing
god please no
>>63029123
Its long iverdue Jenny and Vestra examined Clara...thoroughly.
>>63031337
The show under Moffat is doing exactly what it did in the 1980's under JNT. It is obsessed with its own mythology to the point where it is only apealing to a limited audience.
Best thing for the show would be to drop the whole Gallifrey,Doctor's name/past angle and go back to basic scary stories about a man in a box who fights monsters without all the baggage.
>>63029454
Has to be British ffs
>>63031408
>>The McGann rumours are true, he's returning to the show but 8 is the Hybrid.
>How does /who/ react?
As in he's half human? I'd spend the rest of the episode smearing shit all over my TV screen.
>>63031408
>How does /who/ react?
>>63031508
I don't like the idea of him being half human but I've wanted them to retcon that aspect of the TV movie.
here's how I want, they establish that the Doctor wasn't born half human but at some point in his life he was 'corrupted' and thus became the hybrid, It's then sorted out and we can put the whole thing behind us.
we can then put the 'on my mothers side' line down as post regen confusion.
>>63031588
It was reconnected or at least explained in the The Apocalypse Element.
>>63031618
I've listened to that, as I recall they give a reason why the eye of harmony can only be opened by a human eye. I don't think they explain the half-human thing.
>>63031476
Are you 90s Moffat/RTD who were scared shitless of continuity as if it's some mythological boogeyman?
They've tried to ditch Gallifrey and look where it led to - fixating on it more than ever.
There's not as much baggage even. Casualfags are not goldfishes too. People can handle stories that are not "muh monster of the week".
>>63031704
Continuity is a good thing, but it's not a substitute for writing. I'm alarmed at possibility that they are going piling references instead of writing stories.
>all this lore crap
My god when will this show be fun again
>>63031704
I disagree. Look at the most successful era's in the shows history. Most of it was continuiety light. Weather it was action pertwee, Hinchcliffe/Holmes or Tennant/Rose. During those era's there were occasional dips into the shows past but for the most part they just told good action adventure stories without 50 years of baggage toed to them.
>>63031765
>>63031809
Point is it's not as arc-heavy as you think it is.
"There's Gallifrey which is timelocked" is not exactly piles of lore.
And Tennant/Rose was heavy on muh bad wolf and shit. Look at Journey's End.
>>63031809
>>63031767
>>63031765
I love call backs and the reintroduction of old lore but saying that I can't deny that the best two episode of last series were Mummy and Flatline, they were continuity light.
whereas I watch Witches' and Magician' and I get annoyed by the doctors ''healing powers'' crap. I think the hardcore fans have a bigger problem with lore than the casuals.
>>63031925
Moffat's take on Lore is not so much lore as it is random pile of things inserting everywhere to the point of schizophrenia or redundancy.
In four years we got 3 redundant insights into Daleks' psyche, can't we just stick with one?
I really want Osgood bad.
everytime I see her she looks hotter and hotter.
>>63032043
what Doctor would you want to cosplay as?
maybe as the 2nd Doctor as you take her from behind and she screams 'your making me giddy'
>>63032043
She's the one who got some kind of coherent character development.
>many zygons and humans murdered
>no consequences for the murderers
>>63032195
The offence against them was so great, even river of blood did not wash it away.
This is the only way to make sense out of Capaldi's speech.
>>63032043
rape fantasy #1 virgin osgood analy probed.
>>63032195
the doctors always been more about compassion rather than punishment. if most of his enemies listened to him this sort of thing would happen more often.
>>63032243
someone needs make a fuxtaposition with this gif.
>>63032195
Sometimes in life that has to happen for the greater good.
Look at the members of the IRA who were never punished. Their have their liberty while the families of the innocent people they blew up had their lives destroyed all to maintain the peace.
<-- New companion
>>63032448
Y E S
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>>63032448
It's about time we had an ugly man as a companion. It will make a noice change from the eye candy.
>>63032448
Isn't she busy ruining MST3K?
>>63032572
but anon, mike did that.
>>63032195
This episode was morally bizzare.
Bonnie was vilified for wanting to reveal Zygons, everyone openly admitted violence against Zygons will be.
Doctor talks that Bonnie must forgive humans and it will not be fair.
She stands down and granted pardon, not answering for her actions
No effort to mitigate the situation that caused violent uprising seems to be taken
One of possible interpretations is that it already happened 15 times and will happen again
Is this happy ending?
>>63029096
Jenny is so sexy.
Foxes companion when?
I will post something every day until Christmas!30 days.
>>63032845
butterface
>>63032855
u gay?
asl?
So, who is the villain behind teleporting the doctor?
Old foe or new one?
>>63033002
It was Ashildr.
>>63032845
This gif gives the impression that she is very uncomfortable with her belly button.
>>63033002
pretty certain its the timelords, could be over hype but still.
>>63032845
hopefully soon
>>63033026
Last time I checked, the timelord were alright, ie not trying to kill causality. So I fail to see why they would need to do that to the doc to get him to the,
Full Face the Raven script
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/DW9-EP10-Face-the-Raven.pdf
>>63033017
>>63033026
>>63033050
It's the veil. what ever it is. It's also played by the same guy as Colony Sarff. Perhaps another one of the snake guys? It's possible.
>>63033104
I prefer the original title
>Trap Street
Is Clara actually dead or is it just another ruse? The real question is, does anyone really care anymore?
The person that is behind all this is Ian Chesterton.
>>63033211
the original Clara who traveled with 11 and 12 and was splintered by the core of the TARDIS is dead
all the other Claras in the Doctor's timelines are still alive and one episode focuses on one
>>63030956
Damn she's a qt. I wouldn't mind if she played the next companion.
>>63030491
>he didn't like Reality Bomb
What shit taste m8
>>63032448
I'd probably kill myself if that happened.
>>63033104
So the Doctor carried Clara's body back inside and told Rigsy to take care of arrangements. Why the fuck would they cut this from the episode?!
>>63033256
Same, that cunt has ruined too many of my favorite shows already.
>>63033211
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/television/news/article.cfm?c_id=339&objectid=11550622
God damn it the wait for these last 2 episodes is fucking unbearable
>>63031234
No he means the Doctor Donna or Bad Wolf.
Honestly, it feels like every other woman the Doctor shacks up with ends up being a mythical Chosen One.
>>63033298
Capaldi in the video talking about the Xmas special:
>"It's very light, it's very funny. The character of River Song doesn't really believe I'm the Doctor. The last Doctor she saw was Matt Smith, who was rather young and glamourous and hot, and now she's got this grey haired stick insect. But there are also monsters and spaceships and flying saucers and all the usual goodies we have at Christmas."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue-jkwPzzJQ
holy fuck GOAT
Just read the Face The Raven/Trap Street script.
Some great parts were cut out, such as the Doctor telling Rigsy to tell Coal Hill that Clara was dead and to get rid of her body.
Also the after credits scene is better on paper. There was dialogue.
>>63033599
I think they need new editors. There were some things cut from The Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar scripts too that would have been improvements on the finished result.
>>63033634
the stuff in FTR was cut for time
>>63033646
They could have cut some of the other scenes and made better use of the time.
>>63033672
Damn the BBC really is trying to make us think she's dead. The effort has to be appreciated.
>>63033705
actually they only posted this after a fan asked Sarah Dollard on twitter
https://twitter.com/bbcwritersroom/status/669529549777076224
>>63032043
Someone please crop the giant Moffat.
I think if Clara isn't dead for good now, villains will hold her resurrection hostage.
Either way, she's leaving.
>>63033791
>Either way, she's leaving.
That we can agree. But I'm sure what happened in FTR wasn't her final fate.
>>63030535
It was only temporary, they say that in the episode.
The whole plotline with the Hybrid and the Doctor being teleported to some bizarre castle for some weird science experiment makes me think the Rani could be back
especially since allegedly the high council is now made up of just women
>>63033690
I would genuinely be pro a Riggsy companion as part of a twosome.
>>63033849
The rani was fucking shit m8
Probably be a male rani now as well.
>>63029448
Ah man... he did some good stuff. And some not so good stuff - that's Doctor Who in a nutshell.
>>63033849
Not necessarily Rani but a mad scientist timelord would be nice. Someone else who escaped like the Doctor and Missy.
>>63033952
Or someone they've created during the war.
>Gallifreyan Josef Mengele
>>63030887
Because Gatiss was in charge of the casting, right?
>>63033982
Basically a timelord Davros?
>>63033982
>>63033952
>>63033849
I'd rather see new renegade Timelords than the monk or rani
>>63034002
Yeah something like that.
Thank fuck I don't write for Dr Who.
Is Clara really ded for good?
>>63034102
yep
>>63034102
Moffat has made it so that she can live a gorillion lives all through the Doctor's time stream so really she never dies, just a shard of her.
>>63034102
yes but new who cant seem to let them go. so expect references, there's at least 2 confirmed already
>>63030287
>He also been in who before several times 3 different characters plus once in sarah jane.
That's always great. When are they gonna have Jean Marsh and Donald Glover in NuWho as new characters?
>>63032758
I thought the 15 more times thing was a joke about just Kate Stewart constantly wanting to gain control of the peace via the Osgood boxes (a very Brigadier thing to do) and the Doctor having to explain to her what they were and then wipe her memory every time, rather than 15 uprisings.
>>63034153
Julian Glover mate.
>>63030025
>They get to live on in some contrived manor
Boy I'd like to live in a contrived manor someday.
>>63033851
Theres something too 'stereotypically lower class black' about him.
>>63034455
I know I just forgot to type his first name. Which reminds me, what's with Donald Sumpter just being listed as Sumpter on RadioTimes and Wikipedia and shit?
>>63034573
The calculated library and the labored drawing room are my favorite.
>>63033427
>The character of River Song doesn't really believe I'm the Doctor.
God that sounds irritating as fuck already.
How many IRL friends do you have, /who/?
>>63034573
to be fair River did live on in a contrived manor, literally
>>63034716
threeeeee
>>63034707
doesn't believe Pc is the Doctor
>just kek my shit up right now
>>63033851
Same. The character has a lot of heart and sincerity, he's not 'lol so quirky!' like so many other potential companions. If they brought in a girl to avoid it being a sausagefest, I'd be happy with Rigsy.
>>63031452
>War Doctor
>>63034730
Will Moffat ever write episodes or two parters even half as good as these were?
>>63034755
yeah i'm glad he's an interesting enough guy and not just a walking token
>>63034736
They're basically steering River Song into representing the legions of butthurt Tumblr fangirls STILL angry at Capaldi being cast 2 years after the fact. As if she wasn't annoying enough.
>>63034766
>implying silence isn't the worst Moffat episode
>>63034810
Just like Moffat did with Clara in Deep Breath
Mofft remains a hack
>>63034832
>someone baits with this
pathetic m8
>>63034755
That's a good point. On the other hand he does have a family now, so he'd either have to leave them behind or (ick) we'd get more family drama moments with them included in "back on earth" stories.
>>63034832
nigguh please, impossible astronaut/day of the moon were GOAT
someone post that webm where ashildr morphs into face of boe
>>63034947
Seconded, those were one of the few times Moffat's tangled, somewhat messy plotting and story-thread jumping about worked reasonably well.
>>63034832
OOOHHHHHH you meant silence in the library
fuck i'm retarded
>>63034755
Nah, he's got a kid, a proper family of his own and he'd be a constant reminder of Clara.
>>63034994
have him flung through time and the new team will be Rigsy and his now gown-up daughter.
too stupid?
>>63034947
>>63034964
>has the Doctor brainwash the human race, young, old, crippled, pacifistic, doesn't even matter, both present and future into killing the Silence
>GOAT
Moffat please leave
>>63030025
Interestingly, River wasn't a speshiul person when she anti-died, and the Doctor still saved her.
>>63035035
So he would have been an absentee father. That will not go over well character wise
>>63035035
If we are to pluck him from the year 2035 that'd be weird he didn't change. Either force him to weak make-up constantly, or recast him?
If we actually flung him and see him skipping his daughter's childhood, don't you think he'd rather spend time with her?
>>63035049
That's a case of looking too deeply at it; that was just a clever (I know Moffat haters hate that word) solution to the deal. I'm going to keep liking it and you can't stop me.
>http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/capaldi-on-clara-exit-doctor-who-is-never-quite-what-it-seems-78387.htm
CAPALDI CONFIRMS SHE IS NOT DEAD.
>>63035049
>implying the silence didn't deserve it
>>63034707
Sounds like River will be in character then. The episode sounds shit. Atleast I won't care that I have to miss it this year.
> Doctor uses a teaspoon of his Regeneration Energy Magic Cure-All on Clara the moment the raven is about to rape her.
> Literally no reason he couldn't.
>>63035182
No he doesn't
>>63035205,
and that's why his healing powers suck
he either he uses them and up and loses regenerations
or he acts out of character and lets people die.
>>63035170
How is that looking too deeply?
He says that people in the future will watch the video and get the message. He points the shit out.
>And one whacking great kick up the backside for the Silence. You just raised an army against yourself and now, for a thousand generations, you're going to be ordering them to destroy you every day. How fast can you run? Because today's the day the human race throw you off their planet. They won't even know they're doing it.
>Regeneration energy
>Literally life juice
>Semen is also life juice
>Regeneration energy created by RTD
>Why am i not surprised
So I'm listening to Dark Eyes 2. The traitor ends with this huge tense standoff, then I start The White Room, and it's a totally different situation.
Is this what's supposed to happen or am I missing something? The download from Big Finisb, no pirate, has The White Room as several tracks rather than one long one, so I'm wary.
>>63035205
The raven would still kill her
>>63035259
You don't miss anything. The order is anachronistic.
>>63034766
well he already has done, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
Thing is, I don't think Moffat's really degraded in his writing abilities. I just think his writing style doesn't suit showrunning (in as much as the direction the show takes with plot, characters, arcs etc.) He wrote very contained, complex and finely-plotted self-sustained stories that didn't rely on a wider arc, but when he does try to introduce a wider arc across a series or multiple series, he uses the same tactics as he used to with his self-contained stories, and it ends up being a bit of a clusterfuck because you can't use the same storytelling techniques when planning series-long story directions as you do when writing stand-alone stories. Best example of this is series 6, or The Time of the Doctor.
Not that he can never be a good showrunner, series 5 was perfectly planned and paced and one of the strongest starts any head writer/script editor/co-producer has ever had in the show's history, on par with the likes of Dicks 'n' Letts with season 7, or Holmes 'n' Hinchcliffe with season 12, just that the way he's been going about it for a while now doesn't work as well as it might appear to on paper.
>>63035321
cont'd.
Another thing that I think proves that the Moff's writing style doesn't translate well to showrunning is he's actually not that brave or unorthodox, at least not any more. When The Doctor Dances aired in 2005, it seemed outrageous and really cool the way the Doctor referred to sex and having had it via the metaphor of dancing, and it's one of the great selling points of the story. However, 10 years later, this Christmas, there's gonna be more flirting between the Doctor and River Song, and it's gonna be veiled references to smut, and everyone's gonna act like it's so exciting and raunchy, but in truth it's the same old shit. Moffat took the first 5 years of NuWho to try out a couple of really exciting and cool new tricks and directions for the show, but over the next 5 years he did nothing but employ those tricks again and again. He's like a 12 trick pony or something, but all the tricks are worn out. Criticise RTD all you want, but at least he did try and shake things up as showrunner several times over his tenure. Though I don't think he really understood when his writing was good - see how in The Writer's Tale he takes Benjamin Cook through how he wrote such rubbish as Voyage of the Damned or Journey's End, and neglects to really talk about Midnight, which would actually be interesting to read about. Moffat, on the contrary, knows when his writing is good and will do anything to recapture and resurrect whatever he did before, but the second time around it's always a bit thin, and by the sixth time around it's just not good any more, see the constant repetition of the 'sexy witty dominant older woman' archetype in everything he writes (River Song, Madame Kovarian, Irene Adler, Tasha Lem, Missy), a slightly less offensive version is the repetition of character introduction techniques for Madame de Pompadour and Amy Pond.
>>63035310
Good to know. Thanks.
>>63035250
He's done it before, said he might be regenerated misshapen because of it.
>>63035271
Then why has no one ever made a contract with the Quantum Shade to kill the Doctor? And what kind of shit excuse is "when you transferred the chronolock you altered the contract so lol you're sol"?
>>63035342
PPS
This is linked to the fact I think he's suffered from oversaturation. He wrote a grand total of 4 stories between 2005-2009, and so every time one of his episodes rolled around we all got pretty hyped about it because he had a good reputation and, let's face it, his pre-showrunner stories are all absolute gems. He's written about 25 stories, give or take, since 2010 and thus what he writes doesn't have the same charm or effect any more.
Also, he loves cliches, both consciously and subconsciously. A lot of the stuff he puts into character development is often accidentally, and annoyingly cliched. Even when it was intentional it got old fast. It was kind of enjoyable during the RTD era because it was fun, in the middle of a series of characters trying to be as 'serious' and 'realistic' as possible (and often failing exactly because they were trying so hard), to have these kind of movie/comic/storybook characters who were basically played up caricatures. Sometimes, Moffat put enough effort and thought in to actually deconstruct and unpick these cliches and caricatures he utilised, but far too often (though I wonder if he'd done it loads then maybe it's just become another Moff cliche, who knows?). I don't think he's a bad writer, he just doesn't know how to plan things that well all the time, and also he can pull punches way too much and be a bit lazy.
>>63035342
>but at least he did try and shake things up as showrunner several times over his tenure
Hmm?
>>63035182
>“We haven’t told a lie. The story is the story, but the Doctor is not going to rest. He is not going to accept that that is the last time he will be see Clara.”
sounds more like he's confirming she really died and teasing she might be brought back. alternatively it could only man the Doctor will attempt to bring her back to life and fail or see the error of his ways.
>>63035414
Yeah I don't remember that. RTD stuck to his formula that he established in Series 1. Moffat even did his first year much like RTD's formula. Bottom line is they've both got their fair share of flaws as head writers and I'm ready for a new approach.
>>63035382
You make it sound like the Doctor is hard to kill.
>>63035382
>He's done it before, said he might be regenerated misshapen because of it
do you really think we'll see an amputee as the next doctor?
would you seriously want one?
The doctor is also someone who would give up his life/lives to save someone. His excuse to why he wouldn't do it all the time really isn't enough.
>>63035255
It's looking to deeply because you're trying to pull out examples like "This means my gran has killed Silence, wtf?" No doubt what happened afterwards was the Silence got the fuck away from Earth and humanity, so the problem was over. Think of it this way too: would it be better to have people fighting and killing the aliens enslaving them (and thus chasing them away) or to leave humanity enslaved?
>>63032448
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
will hell bent feature 9th 10th or 11th doctor(s)?
>>63035587
It definitely wouldn't be new footage, otherwise we'd know about it by now.
Valeyard is on cast notes for Hell Bent.
>>63035643
I know the valeyard is in hell bent. it's the "big reveal" but apparently he's just in a stasis pod and doesnt do anything. But i cant find these cast notes you speak of
>>63035643
sauce
>>63035481
He's been living for thousands of years despite thousands of enemies, at least dozens of whom have the means and motivation to attempt to kill him.
>>63035501
Nah, I was agreeing with you. His healing powers are entirely contrived to fit the mood of the story. He'll use it to heal a broken wrist but not to save his friend's life?
>>63035688
>I was agreeing with you
fair enough, sorry
>>63035688
>He'll use it to heal a broken wrist
That wasn't even his regeneration energy, he was using the energy River gave him in Let's Kill Hitler to heal her wrist.
11 could never regenerate until The Time of the Doctor, any time he mentions it is a bluff or a shape-shifting robot.
just realised something.
didnt moffat say heaven sent is an idea he's had for years and it was originally going to be big finish?
because a few years ago i remember moffat was talking about what would happen if the show didnt come back, he said he had a story for big finish which involved the doctor being put to the test by the valeyard
>>63035525
Not that anon, but that's not "looking too deeply at all". There are scenes in the episode of humans turning towards the Silents to kill them.
>would it be better to have people fighting and killing the aliens enslaving them (and thus chasing them away) or to leave humanity enslaved?
It would be better not to brainwash all of humanity into becoming killers.
Are you seriously trying to imply that the Doctor couldn't possibly have found a solution that was at least slightly better than that?
will Who ever be sexy again?
>>63035789
*salivates at mouth*
>>63035780
In Let's Kill Hitler, he considers regenerating to cure the judas poison, but the Tardis tells him that the poison disabled his regeneration.
>>63035789
Last year, Moffat asked the fans when the Doctor was first confirmed as not being a human being. Take that how you will.
>>63035805
>Matt Smith
>sexy
>ever
>>63035805
but its sexy right now
>>63035823
>but the Tardis tells him that the poison disabled his regeneration
That's just shitty writing, 11 could never regenerate.
>>63035823
>Last year, Moffat asked the fans when the Doctor was first confirmed as not being a human being.
That was a joke thing in DWM.
>>63035840
I want to do pic related to Michelle Gomez.
>>63035780
He also used it to heal Davros and the Daleks, his archenemies.
But not Clara.
>>63035804
>muh human doctor
stop
>>63035860
YOU CAN'T CHEAT THE RAVEN FUCKING MORON, YOU ARE JUST LIKE CLARA EXCEPT WE AREN'T AS LUCKY AND YOU WON'T DIE BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDNESS, FUCKS SAKE.
>>63035945
1) Walk up to the bird cage.
2) Pick up bird cage.
3) Submerse in water until raven is drowned.
I don't see where is teh porblem.
52nd anniversary special plz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE8ExoOcsW4
>>63035415
He could not accept in a way that he'll find her last echo and sing to her for closure.
>>63035989
Did you not see that the "raven" was actually just black weird smoke shit? the raven is just a form it takes, water wouldn't stop the fucking thing. it goes through walls. SOLID WALLS
>>63035992
>Matt Smith
>returning to Doctor Who
>ever
He's a Hollywood action hero now m80.
>>63035945
Again: then why has no one invoked the Quantum Shade to kill the Doctor?
>>63035989
It's not really a raven though
>>63036026
Cause it has a mind of its own? Maybe it's a time lord invention that is programmed not to kill time lords.
>>63036019
>He's a Hollywood action hero now m80.
Please tell me you are joking. He's Hollywood career has failed.
The only thing that MIGHT make him matter again is that Netflix show.
>>63036008
1) Inhale smoke.
2) Hold breath.
3) Exhale at someone else.
I don't see where is teh porblem.
>>63036070
>implying it doesn't force itself out of you
I see where you are being teh retrad
>>63036069
He was in The Terminator.
The TERMINATOR.
Arguably one of the biggest action franchises ever created.
He had a prominent role. He's in talks to replace Arnie.
If that is failure, then what is your life?
>>63036069
Tennant is in netflix's Jessica Jones, not Smith
Apart from that i agree
Why hasn't anyone used a Raston Warroir Robot to kill the doctor
>>63036063
Then he could've said, "yo, Local Knowledge, gimme the thing because the raven won't do the thing."
>>63035887
>gets btfo
>resorts to memery
>>63036107
his screentime was <2minutes total, film considered a flop unfortunately
>>63036132
smith has a netflix show
Return of the What Doctor! Let's have a party!
>>63036132
>>63036069
He meant that young royals thing, but honestly, some kind of Marvel thing would have been his best bet. That shit's a meal ticket, fucker.
>>63036026
Why doesn't someone just shoot the doctor a few times with a gun? Because then the show would be over.
>>63036141
Cause the doctor hates tattoos ever since he got forced one by the time lords in his third incarnation. He'd rather let someone die than have one.
>>63035321
>>63035342
>>63035397
>think this has to be pasta
>check archive
>it isn't
Anyone got any spoilers lads?
>>63036244
I actually do happen to know what happens in the finale, I actually work with a translation service and we got the script basically last minute, to avoid another Marcelo Camargo incident.
WARNING: HUGE FUCKING SPOILERS, DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED FOR THE FINALE!>VNA level dark
>Eviscerated demons
>Cherub like creatures
>Jesus gives Clara a "Shock of her life"
>Is a man who can pull a world out of his ass really a man at all? Is God even real?
>This might be where you can argue that the new approach is, for the first time, seen unclutterred by any of the old approach.
>A terrible dilemma
>Moffat has said that the ending scene at Nandos is his favourite scene in the Series
>Moffat said in DWM that Steven Moffat (writer of the episode) was going to stick around for a long time, I promise you, implying that the script was GOAT
>Islam insult in episode
>>63036175
please dump them, i can't find them in the archive
Prediction for Hell Bent:
Fade from black to white. Nothing is visible. Is the episode frozen? But, wait, there is something. Something is moving towards the screen from the deep white plane. It's moving carefully. Methodically. It is practiced and refined.
As the figure comes closer, it also becomes familiar. It is the ghost of Peter Capaldi, bitter with age even in the afterlife.
"My child, you have forgotten your purpose. You are far from the path of your destiny."
"No Peter," I say, "I will not become what you want me to be. I am free from the chains of your old tradition."
"You cannot escape it," he says, as his old face grows hard and cold. His skin tightens, his teeth extend, and his eyes become black holes that whistle when the wind blows through. His twisted skeleton reaches a hand through the screen and grabs me. He crawls through the television, slinking and crunching his monstrous form into the physical world. But I am stronger than him. His bones become dust and are swept away, out of sight, as if they were never there. He is gone again, for now.
Then it ends with Clara being alive and the Doctor now played by Matt Smith, leaving.
So, basically, the same as always plus a couple of surprises. Not expecting much more than that.
>>63036244The Valeyard is created during 11's regeneration into 12. This is the new Time Lord biological ability being teased in the reviews. Except it's not so much a biological ability as it was devised by the Time Lords. The whole new regeneration cycle was cooked up by The Rani, with a little dash of something extra. The Valeyard's plan was simply to imprison the Doctor, which is what the castle is in Heaven Sent. However, Rassilon interferes, and rigs it so that the Doctor brings the Time Lords back from the dead. The Doctor goes back to Day of the Doctor and undoes the ALL 13 thing, so that the Daleks wipe out all of Gallifrey. This is the angry eyes clip. Gallifrey is now ruled by Daleks, and the Doctor is allied with them. The implication is that the Valeyard was really the Doctor, and vice-versa.
>>63036451
>between your twelfth and final incarnations
mathematically, that's handy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sMgwIUECSs
We all know that Who is where acting careers go to die.
Capaldi knew this, waited until he was aged. Wise old owlbrows.
>>63036606
He got offered the part of 8.
Imagine if Capaldi was 8 and McGann was 12.
>>63036622
>Capaldi Basement memes
yikes
Do you think it's wrong for two white people to be in love?
The more I watch Doctor Who, the more I'm convinced it's wrong.
>>63036426
What?
>>63036660
Of course. Black and White is the only way to go.
>>63036668
what?
>>63036731
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS PLACE?
Where can I buy a sonic screwdriver
>>63036606
Karen Gillan has had undoubtedly the most successful career after Who..and Arthur Darvill is also doing well.
What do you think about video games, /who/?
Was "I don't wanna go" an improvised line?
>>63036852
No it was in the script
>>63036810
Eccleston isn't doing too bad right now. Not amazing but hes getting by.
>thor 2 fuck you money
>2 seasons of leftovers
>another season of safe house
>legend
>that show about autism thats coming on bbc soon
/who/ I have a cold, and I need to be in my brother's graduation in two days..
any suggestions for curing a cold fast?
>>63036875
kill self
>>63036870
That's what I thought... Fucking casual normies are awful combine it with reddit and you have a shit sandwich, I honestly don't know why I go to that site.
"What is the most heartbreaking moment in TV?"
""I don't want to go" - David Tennant's improvised last line in Doctor Who."
>>63036852
nope, there was multiple takes - on YT.
some are more subtle, more are more over the top.
so it could've been worse.
>>63036906
It was definitely scripted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWM7l9SAipg
>>63036875
Right now, Day/NyQuil as often as directed, go to bed, watch movies. Sleep without shame. Pile on blankets, stay heated. Eat oranges, drink water until your bladder pops. Do this until 2 hours before his graduation. You'll be fine.
>>63036810
>two capeshit movies where she plays a minor role and one shitty horror movie I regret watching even for free
>most successful
Karen pls
>>63036875
250ml glass
100ml water
100ml apple cider vinegar
50ml lemon juice
Add a couple teaspoons of baking soda and stir.
Hold nose while drinking, because it's disgusting.
Immediately follow with a glass of milk (semi-skimmed or it will curdle).
Will make you go to the toilet like mad for the first day, but your congestion will lift within the hour. Doesn't cure the cold, but makes the symptoms better.
>>63036906
The end of time part 2 script is even online to read in PDF format. It's in the script.
>>63036978
i'm not falling for this
>>63036978
not that anon but I would never ever take advice like this off 4chan. Seen to many stories of things like this which end awful like those crystal penny things are whatever they were.
>>63037009
does it have RTD's jizz/tear stains on it?
>>63037021
don't worry. its perfectly safe.
I have no fucking idea what happened. Was it really Jack? Did he actually departed to the planet of sanctimonious twats?
>>63037087
FUCK I CANT MOVE MY HAND WHAT IS GOING ON
>>63036107
>Genisys
>Any kind of success
He'll need a big hit to bounce back from that.
>>63037087
Yeah and shit like that...
>>63037087
It doesn't seem to work. What is supposed to happen? Are all those moves meant to be simultanoius? At what point to my fingers fall off or eyes pop out or whatever it supposed to be?
>>63037124
it was a financial success, there's no denying that. it grossed 440 million worldwide, which is a pretty decent paycheck for smith
>>63036069
>>63036107
>>63037124
Matt will keep getting steady work but he'll never be a huge star. Too odd looking and acting.
1- It was Jack's mind in an old guy's body.
2- Yes, he did. They were probably setting up a future "Series 5" of Torchwood on audio.
>>63037186
in reply to >>63037097
>>63037087
You dick.
>>63037087
MY DICK JUST GOT STUCK IN A FAN WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
>>63036875
Vitamin C tablets, plus salty food. Chicken soup is the classic, but anything with high sodium kills bacteria.
>>63037160
Domestically it made just shy of $90 million. On a $155 million budget, that's awful. Overseas it did fine, but they don't want exclusive success overseas with big budget Hollywood films like this, especially the fifth in "Arguably one of the biggest action franchises ever created". Poor Matt... Even Jai Courtney at least has Suicide Squad coming up before his career goes away.
>>63037252
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW THAT JOKE GETS SO MUCH FUNNIER AFTER THE 9 BILLIONTH TIME YOU'VE HEARD IT! NICE MEME BRO XXD
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>>63037097
Yes, and he was already there, just possessing the body of the old man.
>>63037292
I'd do it, and I love /who/ but i don't trust this. I don't want people on 4chan knowing my address.
>>63037333
you have failed hard m8
>>63037343
they don't know your address
>>63037346
I'm not bothering to get perfect edges for a 4chan post m8.
>>63037368
its not even a gif and there's no opacity or anything
>>63037343
They cannot see your address and it's never been an issue before. They do this all the time on other boards
>>63037087
OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK WHAT'S HAPPENIIIIIINNNGGGG............
>>63037398
But what about disc rot?
>oh look its another episode set in modern Britain
>>63037290
Oh, this is a joke? Never heard it before and was quite enjoying it until you came along.
Try thinking of other people once in a while anon.
>>63037459
Completely avoidable so long as you refrain from purchasing physical media. *<);oP
>>63037515
What about hard disk rot?
>>63037292
Any particular reason its in 9 hours?
im quite excited for it. will feel fun to give fellow /who/ users a lil treat
>>63037463
I like Arabian Nights and Far Eastern stuff but can you imagine the bitching if we had a full Asian guest cast?
>that happened in centre of the Tardis' but no one noticed that.
>>63037537
>2015
>not using solid state drives and cloud computing
I bet you still rent dvds from redbox
>>63037573
What's wrong with having teritorially apropriate cast? Minorities in medieval Europe is weird, but minorities in minorityland is nothing wrong.
>>63037585
SSDs rot as quickly as DVDs rot.
You can't store pirated material in the cloud. What if Nick Briggs found out that you stole all his GOAT audios?
>>63037648
>380 posts late
>>63037646
>Nick Briggs "coming to get me" for non-canonical ear stories
Pic related, me shaking in my boots.
