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Were they really THAT bad?
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Nope.
Been saying this for years.
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The prequels were much better written, they had actual characters and story, not a bunch of memes and one-liners that lack any emotion or coherence. Luke is a cliched everyboy "hero" that goes through an absurdly rapid transformation between the fifth and the sixth episodes. Anakin's emotional instability and his exposure as a psychopath are gripping; and his doomed relationship with Padme is touching. In the "original trilogy" Han, Leia, Darth Vader and Obi Wan are complete meme characters, nothing about them is remotely believable or human. And why doesn't anyone care about deaths in those movies? Leia's planet destruction, Luke's stepparents' death, all of the blown up rebels--the list could go on--all the deaths are forgotten moments later.

As for direction, the movies from the "original trilogy" were mostly incoherent, badly edited and full of logical problems. The prequel trilogy is a work of a "vulgar auteur".

I feel neutral about the series overall, and honestly don't care about trolling or contrarianism. Here are my sincere rankings:

1. "Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones"
2. "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace"
3. "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith"
4. "Star Wars"
5. "The Empire Strikes Back"
6. "Return of the Jedi"
7.
8. "The Force Awakens"

Episode 7 isn't even a Star Wars movies. It is a Marvel flick masquerading as one.
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Watched 1 and 2 yesterday. Holy shit, they were even worse than I remembered.
Only redeeming qualities were music and visuals of all things. Yes, the visuals were actually the worst of their problems.
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>>64177203
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>>64177203
Indeed, I would concur, because the prequels are infused with a bold vision of artistic profundity that eclipses the likes of generic sci-fi movies of recent times. The streamlining process that has begun to creep into the production of every slightly sci-fi-y tinged movie has created an amorphous blob of mediocrity and blandness. The prequels deliver a basic premise of good vs. evil but do it so by utilizing characters that are endowed with humanity. Aside from the storytelling aspect the prequels stand strong on all fronts, from writing, cinematography and set pieces that truly immerse you into a fantastic world full of wonder and awe. It is infinitely unfortunate that this behemoth of a film project is marred by the majority of the populace's inability to assess the genius of this wonderful enterprise and their lack of intelligence. One can only hope that in eons to come, evolution will have worked in ways as to ensure and maximize the distribution of the gene that thrives in the intellectual minority of our time so that future generations and civilizations will be able to grasp the grandeur of the prequels and see behind the masquerading illusion that is reddit.
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Being bad has some plus points

When I think back on the prequels, I can remember the least from episode III
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>>64177203
Nice meme.

They were terrible. They're not even good films, let alone good star wars films
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they're about on the same level as jupiter ascending.
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they were very uncompromising. Lucas had a vision and the means to create it without any suits getting involved and ruining it. As a result it's very rough around the edges and unpolished but its core is amazingly strong and distinct.
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V > IV > VI > VII >>> III >>> II > I
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yes they were.

They were un inspired mexican soap operas that used their money to make scenes more EXPLOSIVE and easier for lucas to make. it's everything wrong with big budget movies.
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>>64177271
>>64177300

Reddit has arrived.
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>>64177167
Not as bad as Plinkett says but it's still the most accurate opinion we have.
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>>64177271
That's the best comparison I've heard in awhile, pretty fitting.
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3>6>4>2>5>1>7
Disagree and you're wrong.
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>>64177260
>Aside from the storytelling aspect the prequels stand strong on all fronts, from writing, cinematography and set pieces that truly immerse you into a fantastic world full of wonder and awe.

God /tv/ is fucking awful. Were reaching /mu/ levels of awful, where nobody actually knows anything about the medium we are discussing and justifies their opinions with memes and copy pastas
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>>64177315
stop being a faggot. we need to just admit that we all have reddit accounts already. being a redditor is nothing to be ashamed of and honestly we're on the same side. reddit and /tv/ are allies now to fight against the /pol/ cancer on this board.
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I have about as much respect for The Force Awakens as I do for the dog shit on my shoe.

It is reddit, it is capeshit, it is cheeto dust, it is video games. It's nothing more than memes enjoyed by simplistic pledditors. I have ZERO respect for people who are not free thinkers and blindly enjoy the reddit memes that comprise Cuck Wars: The Search for More Money. Better than the gloriously fantastic prequels? Fuck no.

I'm literally screaming, slamming my arms on my desk right now just thinking about it.
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>>64177365
/tv/ is far worse than /mu/
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>>64177167
>>64177182
>>64177203
You know, the more you post dumb bait like this, the more idiots are going to think you're actually being serious and start parroting these views sincerely. Is that really what you want?
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>>64177315
>le back to reddit XD XD XD
No John, YOU are the memer
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>>64177203
heh
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>>64177371
>>64177346
>>64177336
>>64177395

Reddit exposes itself again and again.
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>>64177167
The fact that you have to ask if they're bad really says a lot about the quality of the trilogy
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>>64177354
What the cuck


5>4>6>7>2>3>1
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>>64177420
Le ebin meme, gimmie another sir :D
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>>64177336
>Plinkett

As soon as the word "Plinkett" is tossed, you can safely disregard the person that made said utterance.

Prequel hate is nothing but a meme. Only intelligent intellectuals are able to see behind the illusion and grasp the ingenious storytelling and world-building the prequels deliver.

Do not stoop down to the level of all drones that parrot the same hackneyed "criticism" they veil as nothing but the repetitive phrase a la "DUDE PLINKETT LMAO". It's a shtick, a tiring at that.

The prequels are endowed with grandeur that outshines anything modern cinema has produced in the past decade and due to their artistic merit, they will stand strong as timeless beacons of astute wit and film making.

Be a freethinker, not a redditor.
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>>64177454
>>64177454
Pasta aside, this is 80% true.
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>>64177167
Of course not.

And you shouldn't take anyone who says "yes" seriously. 7 is just proving they're hypocritical retards. They give this movie 9/10s on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB.
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so we're posting all the prequel defense pasta here?
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I just wish someone else directed it.
George lucas clearly didn't want to.
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>>64177492
Why the fuck do the posts cut off?
I wanted to read everything.
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>>64177454
Was this post a gift for blade57hrc?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEZ2uRdWycY
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>>64177521
What? No we really like the prequels in here :^), who would ever ironically shitpost on /tv/ of all places my friend?
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>been a fan of the prequels for years, constantly defended them
>now I'm going to look like a bandwagoner now that people are realizing how good they are
fuck m ylife famlmao
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>>64177454
>The prequels are endowed with grandeur that outshines anything modern cinema has produced in the past decade and due to their artistic merit, they will stand strong as timeless beacons of astute wit and film making.
>Be a free thinker
Speak for yourself
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>>64177540
>George Lucas clearly didn't want to
Oh but he did
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>>64177555
because it's a b8 image
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>>64177576
>le prequel hate meme

Found the redditor.
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>>64177167
ROTS was alright. I and II were complete shit though.
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>>64177575
Same here, anon.
It's even worse because it's impossible to tell ebin memers from legit apologists.
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>>64177593
He shat out the script in a week, he sat around watching people on his two monitors. He even said he sold the rights because he was sick of it and making a movie for ten years was tiring for him.

Guy just had too much stuff on his shoulders and had no one tell him he was wrong.
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>>64177613
No RotS was shit, too.
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>>64177564
Is guy for real or is he just joking? I saw some of his response to plinkett video and thought it was a joke maybe. This seems like some real lolcow autism though.
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>>64177659
This is from his deviant art page.
Go there if you must, you'll only find what you take with you.
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>>64177420
Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit
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>>64177354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3I7p5lvkwQ
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>>64177784
>itt
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>>64177751
I don't know what I was expecting.
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>>64177831
His latest video explains about how he told his dad he didn't like the x-wing so his dad took away his favorite toy (in his teen years) and that's the root of his hate for the OT. Then as a victim of bullying, he took to defending the prequels out of righteous fury against those naughty cyber bullies and their leader, "King Plinkett." Oh and he was in the special olympics.
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>>64177167
They give star wars a bad name and if anyone watched the prequels as their first star wars film I feel very sorry for them and probably lost potential star wars fans IMHO
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>>64177937
So you're telling me a new power has risen in the East?
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>>64177975
Is this Chrischan?
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>>64178017
christinechan*
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>>64178017
He goes by Christine now. I'm not even fucking with you.
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>>64178046
Holy fuck.
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>>64177966
I saw the prequels first when I was a kid.
saw OT for the first time just recently before watching 7.

it was pretty magical experience desu
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>>64177975
Let's just say there has been an awakening.
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>>64177975
Nah. Hes autistic, but its not the type of abject insanity as chris-chan.
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>Let's just say there has been an awakening.
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>>64178105
If I were his dad I would have abandoned his autistic ass too.
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Do the movies ever say that the midi-chlorians cause/exert the force? I like to think they're just a byproduct of the force, and a convenient way of measuring a person's force ability.
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>>64178290
They're are how you interact with the force. Without it life can't exist and if it did, it would be deaf to the force. So they aren't just this byproduct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoVpSPXGCvc
one minute in

they're stupid and should be ignored at all costs
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>>64178416
Can we pretend Qui-Gon is a huge retard and was just shilling his own opinion?
>doesn't sense the trap at the beginning of the movie even though his apprentice can
>insists against Yoda's and Windu's judgement that Anakin should be trained as a Jedi
>gets killed by a Sith apprentice that gets killed by his own apprentice
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>>64178521
Isn't it easier to just pretend the prequels didn't happen since they're full of this shit?

Has anyone seen the phantom edit? Does it help?
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>>64178571
>Isn't it easier to just pretend the prequels didn't happen
Hello reddit!

>The Phantom Edit
It's good, too bad the dope changed the opening crawl to a letter from the editor and it's not available in HD
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>>64178571
>Has anyone seen the phantom edit? Does it help?
yes

Not enough.
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>>64178626
okay enough with the forced reddit meme, the only people you'll fool are new people that've come here just to talk about VII. Do you really want to make /tv/ worse than it already is?
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>>64178727
yes
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I watched an edit of Phantom Menace called "mature edit" which is basically Gungans reduced to a minimum, and lots of needless corny dialogue removed, plus some deleted scenes that make sense, like Anakin beating up a kid for accusing him of cheating.

Holy shit, Obi-wan does NOTHING in this movie. People usually say the fight with Maul is great, but that's only because of a) the music, b) the novelty of a young Ben Kenobi, and c) Maul looks cool. Any attachment toward Obi-wan comes from the original trilogy. But even the fight isn't really that great. If you watch Luke and Vader fight and know the characters, it's still intense even if you mute it.

Also I forgot that there's a decoy queen, that's a pretty decent twist and they foreshadow it quite a bit. Padme is kind of decent in this, compared to the other movies where she's just "don't hit on me, silly jedi XP"
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>>64179015
She's pretty great.
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>>64179098
Have one more.
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>>64179015
Oh yes, I forgot to say, those Neimodians' accents are fucking unbelievable.
>you naboo so clever, you rike to a fuck a viceroy in the ass? pic related
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>>64177167
I feel like the old guys who told me
>"THE PREQUELS SUCK"
When I was a kid

Now I feel like that old guy watching episode 7 seeing how bad it is. Maybe MAYBE JJ can pick up the slack on the next movie. But the whole movie felt like a CARBON copy of episode 4 with genders, characters, backstories switched around and mixed.
Again some parts I liked but others felt rehashed or forced

Overall the force awakens

SUCKS
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YES, THEY'RE BAD MOVIES.

I firmly believe that anyone who likes those movies are either idiots who are incapable of criticizing film or they're lying just because it's a meme to like them now, apparently.

>inb4 someone calls me reddit because that's a hot meme now too
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just reading the plot of Phantom Menace on Wikipedia makes me cringe
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>>64177167
>Were they really THAT bad?
Yes, they were garbage. Yes, even Revenge of the Sith. Utter autistic garbage.
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>>64177365
so what do you have to say on the topic?
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>>64177203
Even though this is bait, its point should be considered with broad strokes because quite a bit of it is true, or at the very least, a refreshing perspective. I've always said that bait is the perfect vessel for taboo truths, and with the right eye of analysis, the prequels are /tv/ as fuck.
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>>64177540
Agreed, the ideas were actually solid and a hired screenwriter and director could have turned them into something great. George's heart was clearly not in the scriptwriting or direction and it baffles me why he took on these jobs aside from some arbitrary need to preserve >muh vision as a proof of concept for fans.
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>>64177564
It's always weirded me out how all autistic people sound the same- that odd listlessness, constantly slurring their words and speaking with either no consistent tone or with some overdramatic, theatrical tone.
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>>64177365
this
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>>64179258
<3 _ <3
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>>64177167
they were that bad

they're horribly incompetently made movies filled with most actors phoning in a terrible script and shots that feel like a god damn soap opera
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>>64177167
Yep
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>>64178521
I think the events point to Obi-Wan being more gifted than they point to Qui-Gon being incompetent.

Perhaps both.
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>>64182312
>someone calls me reddit because that's a hot meme now too
>now
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