Zootopia Thread: Eugenics Edition
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>>3500269
Don't be silly.
>>3500311
It's not silly. That's the point of Zootopia, isn't it? A city where we're all equal!
>>3500325
no, not equal. Has opportunities to pursue their dreams, which is a very, very different thing.
Reminder that this ship is doomed to fail and will leave both shattered and heartbroken.
>>3500325
Tell me if this story sounds real to you. Naive little kid with good grades and big ideas decides "Hey look at me, I'm gonna move to Zootopia! Where predators and prey live in harmony and sing Kumbaya!" Only to find, whoopsie: we don't all get along. And that dream of becoming a big city cop: double whoopsie; she's a meter maid. And whoopsie number three-sy: no one cares about her or her dreams. And soon enough those dreams die and our bunny sinks into an emotional and literal squalor living in a box under a bridge until finally she has no choice but to go back home with that cute fuzzy-wuzzy little tail between her legs to become... You're from Bunnyburrows, that what you said? So how about a carrot farmer?
>>3500255
I always assumed Nick mom would be an old lady who wants to see Nick become the scout he always wanted to be but had to deal with him going the wrong path and dealing with bad company until he out of fear from her judgement cut relations with her.
>>3500351
Only reason not everyone gets along is that people like you want to keep us locked into literally mindless societal roles.
It's kinda funny that a foxlet is looking down on people.
>>3500391
Us predators belong on the pedestal.
M U S T Y L I D S
>>3500418
You need a stepladder, not a pedestal.
Got any arguments besides "this is the way we've always done it, so we should keep doing it"? 'Cause that one failed back when we invented pants.
Threadly reminder that Alec is a cock slut who wants a good dicking.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7216339
>>3500446
(Guys this is RP, right? We're not actually salty, are we? Sorry, I just got here...)
>>3500459
Got any arguments besides "You're just a foxlet!" and "U no get sexts!"
C'mon prey, use something other than ethos.
>>3500498
So long as you don't defend rimming well be fine.
>>3500498
None of them are actually predators or prey, no. This particular rp so tired tho
>>3500304
who?
boink
>>3500526
>None of them are actually predators or prey, no
That I know, but sometimes people can get too attached to their fursonas and start fighting on their behalves.
>>3500526
Who says I'm rping?
>>3500516
Burden of proof, mate. Your ancestors' diet has nothing to do with your individual ability.
>>3500547
>>3500547
WET
LEATHER
HANDBAGS
>>3500498
One again rpfags run everything.
>>3500580
>Literally nothing interesting going on in thread
>Do something interesting
>The previous nothingness is ruined
>Get real
>>3500343
kek, good one
>>3500498
>>3500535
>>3500547
>>3500561
>>3500343
Domestic abuse?
>>3500558
I'm not saying predators are superior, I'm just saying prey are inferior.
>>3500598
You could suggest something better
>>3500286
ironic , considering the previous script
Thanks for the input guise. Finished enthusiasticJoodie. Also my first time using fixative.
>>3500662
Be the change you want to see, grass muncher.
>>3500668
It's obvious why they scrapped it; it didn't stay true to reality.
>>3500655
Dubs and doublethink. A wonderful combination.
What makes prey inferior, then?
>>3500303
>>3500668
I'd like to think Nick would have attacked in this game by weaponizing his collar
are there any pictures where Judy rims Nick?
>MFW I'm a fox and I see this entire thread
>>3500705
We don't want to see him get revenge.
>>3500702
more gay foxes
>>3500724
>we
there's no "we"
>>3500717
It's fine, one predator being dumb doesn't mean we assume all predators are dumb.
>>3500691
The majority of prey tend to have shorter lifespans than predators. There are some who are looked up upon in certain circles for their lifespans, but people tend to forget that at that point, they are practically husks of their former self.
They do not know the thrill of the hunt, the spike of adrenaline before you sink your teeth into your catch. They cannot comprehend the absolute bliss of the moment.
Prey are not naturally fit to lead. They are all just followers of themselves. Predators take charge by instinct. There have been some fantastic prey generals, but they are exceptions to this rule.
At this point, I hardly think I need to say more.
>>3500747
We're not going to assume sure, but deep down we all know.
>>3500457
>larger but softer female
U N F
N
F
>>3500778
I need to get caught up, what's been going on?
>>3500767
>They do not know the thrill of the hunt, the spike of adrenaline before you sink your teeth into your catch. They cannot comprehend the absolute bliss of the moment.
I uhh
really hope you don't understand that either, bud.
You're not supposed to be hunting in >current year
>Prey are not naturally fit to lead.
What? There's literally zero scientific evidence to back that up. Not all prey are herd animals, you know.
>>3500771
If you start to judge all preds based on this dipshit, you're not better than him.
>>3500724
I heard someone imply me
>>3500446
S-shout? Is that you?
>>3500815
Ah- the same ol' crock of jack I've came to expect from you prey. Instead of bringing forth evidence, you just point and say, "That's not right!".
Well, if it isn't, what is, salt licker?
>>3500598
>there are tons of other activity with less autism
>nah ill just paint my shit to walls
>at least im doing something so its ok
>>3500446
>>3500483
100% better than hoofers
>>3500857
Good to see you can at least take a hint. For a moment, I thought you were irredeemably dense.
Bun
Foks
>pred and prey RPing
>>3500809
An anon wrote a short story about VR/Cutie where Cutie accidentally reveals she's barren to VR during their first time, so they stop, Cutie breaks down and tells him that how she got lost in the woods one day, slipped, broke her leg, caught a flu from exposure to the elements, and was found the next day. Then when she came to in the hospital her dad left her bedside to go out into the hall to let the rest of her worried family know she woke up. Somehow those two events combined to leave Cutie with crippling abandonment issues which somehow leads her to constantly seek out male attention in the form of being a huge slut.
Basically ended with VR being one of Cutie's three husbands (the other two being OCs that he threw in on the spot)
All in all a pretty serious step backwards IMO
list all the contentfags you want to FUCK
Story prompt: Nick's mom is just as crafty as her son, and when she first meet's judy, she swindles her good.
Reposting from yesterday.
>>3500286
what do you guys think about pic related?
>>3500854
Tamaraw, Saola, Koalas, Kangaroo, rhinos, elephants, hippos need I go on?
There's plenty of prey that can be great leaders, hippos and rhinos especially. Buffalo, too.
Unless you're telling me you're superior to them, in which case I'd love to see you try. It'd be great to see your shit get kicked in, mister Superior.
>>3500916
wai what?
>>3500906
That was BB, the creator of Cutie, and the other two OCs were drawn as having relationships with Cutie before the VR/Cutie ship even began, man.
It's like you're new to the threads or something.
>>3500922
7/10 Needs more Zootopia
>>3500906
Wasnt cutie dating the trailer trash fox?
>>3500854
Sly fox. I'll notice you haven't provided any evidence, either. All while dismissing anything that contradicts your philosophy as an outlier.
Lifespan is tied to size, not predation role. Notice how the longest-lived mammals are mostly large herbivores (Horses, elephants, rhinos).
Echoing what the other anon said about really hoping you're not actually hunting... Prey also produce adrenaline, though they tend more toward the flight response than the fight.
>>3500924
>He forgot about Alexandeer the Great and Attila the Hunny Badger
Oh, wait, I forgot. Two of the greatest military leaders of the past are just exceptions to the rule.
>>3500944
That's bunanon
>>3500944
Nah, that's Bunanon, she's sexually reserved.
Cutie is a bun slut who wants a man harem.
>>3500951
He's not trailer trash! He's just a little scruffy, and has a liking for sleeveless shirts.
>>3500924
Again, no actual presentation of evidence.
>>3500948
Sorry to break it to you, love, but honey badgers eat meat.
>>3500969
Sleeves are over. Fucking. Rated.
>>3500980
The other anon has a point though.
Where's your evidence, Mister Superior?
>>3500959
who;s talking in panel 3? Which is really panel 6
>>3500990
The evidence lies in what nature granted us as predators.
>>3500969
He's so trashy he probably has a little trash baby with his sister
Maybe not trailer trash but definitely gutter trash
You think he's really an Architect, like Bun thinks? Dude probably works as a thief for the mob, he just lies as an excuse for all the building blueprints he has lying around his apartment.
>>3500980
I need more conflicted scared/aroused judy
>>3500969
Did Alec ever do a lewd version of this image, because they're pretty well posed for it
>>3501011
No.
Alec has not and should not lewd the Bunanon.
She isn't into bondage.
(at least not yet if this thread has anything to say about it)
>>3497979 →
>Panel 1
"Hey Nick! Want to hear a joke I thought up?"
"From you, Carrots?"
"Sure... Show me what you got."
>Panel 2
SFX: BAHH
"I'M PREGNANT!"
>Panel 3
"Ha!! So funny! So funny!! lolololol"
>>3500829
Yes. If it was reversed it would just be her deepthroating a big steaming log
I also drew this the other day too. I'm still going to come back and add police uniforms to this though.
>>3500998
Well there's... Umm...
uhh...
Well, whatever. Jerk.
>>3501019
I wonder if she's into rimming. Either giving or receiving.
I'll remember to ask next time she shows up.
>>3500998
Which is? Because the only thing nature seems to have given you is a foot that fits perfectly in your mouth.
It's not whether you're prey or predator that matters in age, it's whether you HAVE predators. Rhinos and Elephants outlive any other mammalian race, blowing the big cats out of the water.
And if Alexandeer isn't enough proof, what about El Cud or Hannibal Barcow?
>>3501049
Bunanon thinks hand holding is too kinky
>>3500908
>inb4 Rose's sweet sweet voice
>>3501053
>MFW I legitimately state my opinion that if I was a pred in Zootopia, I wouldn't fuck prey b/c I don't feel remotely attracted to them
>MFW people freak out over it
>MFW go from being complete legit in my opinion to pretending prey are inferior when in reality, I just wouldn't be attracted to them
>MFW collecting salt like Benjamin fucking Franklin collected taxes
>>3501066
>not rose, just her voice
>>3500966
Humans and other primates are from old folk tales and superstitions, like elves and brownies. Forest spirits and the like, just mammal enough to be close, but odd and alien all the same.
Or at least they were until the were co-opted by the fantasy market
>>3501049
She's probably into pred-prey, just doesn't know it yet.
She'd love to feel Red's sharp teeth dancing across her neck.
All it will take is one move by him in the heat of the moment and she'll awaken
but she'll never work up the guts to talk to him about it, because she's scared she'll offend him somehow with it.
>>3500966
>>3501062
Well good job she wouldn't have to use her hands
>>3501046
Don't worry, love. I'm not actually specist. I just wouldn't fuck you. I prefer a nice set of canines on my mate.
>>3501023
Who's talking in panel 3, which is really panel 5 or 6?
>>3501072
>MFW I was baiting about pred-prey relationships one night
>MFW people get on my case for it
>MFW people start to recognize my filenames and call me out on it
>MFW it has become an extended story that people really enjoy
RP is a gateway drug, man.
I prefer we all get along.
Reminder
>>3501076
>You know the scariest thing about them? It's not the lack of fur or that weird extra finger.
>What?
>They eat...MEAT.
>*shudders* That's so wrong, dude...
>>3501081
Get this hippie garbage off my internets
>>3501081
>implying cats wouldn't depict humans has bringers of food and petting slaves
>>3501107
Filthy , to back to zootopia
>>3501104
I just love fucking with people when they get uppity about stuff. Apparently it's a sin to think most prey are not fuckable.
>>3501096
Judy is; and the comic does downward, so you read right three then left three.
>>3501072
Having preferences doesn't make you inherently racist. But having preferences based on perceived superiority does.
>"That is true; however, I don't want their filthy bodies anywhere near me. Maybe a rabbit, but anything along the lines of an equine/sheep, no go."
>Oh wait no I was just joking haha
And you forgot a letter in Benjamink Franklin, though that's just being petty.
>>3501111
>>3501111
'Ppreciate it, Quads-kun.
>>3501127
So, is she joking, or not?
>>3501134
It is quite obvious you don't share the joys of fucking with people.
>>3497979
>>3501023
here it is
>>3501179
I'd enjoy fucking repeatedly with Alec
>>3501179
>tfw enjoy being fucked with more than fucking with people
>>3501134
Shut up nigger
>>3501197
I think we'll be good friends then.
>>3501179
I prefer fucking, with people.
>>3501211
Well, clearly not since I'm inferior prey, right?
>>3501175
It's honestly hard to tell based on this comic alone, but based on the fact that it says this is an "afterward" in the bottom left corner, I think we're missing some sort of context here.
>>3501185
Nice job as always, typesetter-anon
>>3501223
Please, I'm already overstocked on salt.
>>3501218
Yesssss, I voted for this!!
I can't draw, I can't I can't and the pain of regret is almost physical
>>3501039
nice man thanks
>>3501265
>I don't know what they were chewing, but I want some
Fixed that for me.
>>3501265
I hear 5th ed makes humans a playable character. I think they're way OP
>>3501239
Sorry, just because I enjoy being teased more, doesn't mean I can't enjoy taking a shot when I see one.
>>3501259
Faggot just pick up a pencil shit on some paper repeat until it's not shit
>>3501283
That's fine. I just figured the gig was up already.
>>3501290
Practice doesn;t make perfect. Skilled, educated, focused practice makes perfect.
>>3501328
Then do that.
>>3501259
Just keep doing it, you'll eventually plateau onto your destined average skill level. Most people's are kinda decent.
>>3501208
What animals would play that video out in zootopia?
>>3501328
Cry some more
>>3501352
If you think that will help
>>3501112
You still get a lot of stories about these sorts of things back in the old world, or colonies where the old populations came to new lands. After all, it's mammal nature to try and explain the unexplainable, and to find scapegoats for when things go wrong. And so a lot of old customs from old cultures are just about that, explaining things with the construct of human.
When people went missing, it was common to think that they wandered too far into the forest, and that the fair folk, the humans, got them. There are stories about how they capture mammals and use them as slaves with collars and the like, to befuddle their mind with magic and make them docile. And of course, they are supposed to be the cause of changelings, sending little sprites like monkeys dressed in mammals furs to impersonate people.
Folklore, of course. There's not chance at all that it could be real.
It's still weird how some people still believe in them, though. There are still places in the world where construction is brought to a halt when people think it's going to be disrespectful to the humans in the woods. But then, they have a culture that for the longest time believed in this tall, clever, and above all cruel, creatures living just out of sight.
>>3501348
Turtles, we all know there's a reptile continent
>>3501265
I thought their whole design stemmed from that predieval artist who drew abstract creatures all over his walls. Like that creepy image he did featherless birds with dingo bodies.
The guy was a nut
Never forget.
What's some good equipment/software for beginning digital art?
>inb4 mouse and ms paint
This thread needs more paws.
I don't know why...
But I drew Judy in a gimpsuit. Not sure if you guys are into that sort of thing. But eh, my fetishes are fucking disgusting.
>>3501279
They are inherently disruptive to gaming. Only the weird perverts play them
>>3501397
Wacom Bamboo Tablet is good and Paint Tool Sai is what most of 4chan drawfags use
>>3501397
Krita and Fire Alpaca are free and have lots of functionality.
>>3501407
Have a blindfold version because it can't get any worse, amiright?
God, I have such a weird kink
>>3501407
What are you still doing awake? Get some sleep, mate.
>>3501429
She looks like she's having a good time!
>>3501397
A cheap Wacom tablet and Photoshop/Sai/Drawpile
>>3501432
I have lost control of my life.
lol I'm going to bed now, don't worry.
>>3501407
I approve. I choose to believe those lines are embarrassment lines and not just face shading.
>>3501407
but you will still share them anyway.
>>3501397
Huion or Monoprice tablet
Sai, Krita, Medibang, mypaint, firealpaca
paper, pencil, some good fineliners, and a wand scanner.
>>3501442
Sleep tight.
>>3501451
Monoprice is my jam. I've had that thing for 4 years. It was 50$ and is huge compared to a wacom
>>3501396
I always wondered about that scene: The building she's bracing herself against, shouldn't that have simply toppled as well?
>>3501407
>>3501429
At least Mead understands
>>3501429
I mean I like blindfolds in general, but the rest of the suit just doesn't do it for me.
>>3501416
I was told there were like 10 different sub species in the human race. I mean what animal has that many?
>>3501265
Did you see the primative versions too? Fucking horrifying man, the shapes of those skulls and faces still haunt me, and those sparse coats too.
Fucking manged and deranged.
>>3501416
I prefer playing bears...
I like to pretend I'm not inches tall and will probably die because someone wasn't watching where their foot was going.
Loook at that cutie on the right.
>>3501513
Everyone loves playing a special snowflake
>>3501407
give us Judy in a maid outfit alec, please
>mfw Mead will probably post the second part of July Hopps comic today
>>3501397
Don't begin digital art. Buy a pencil and learn how to draw real art. Computer art is not as rewarding as the real thing.
>>3501104
Bunanon I can't get a read on you
Between taking you at face value and trying to figure out the extent to which Weaver's influenced your story, I'm unable to see where we're going. You're spooking me.
>>3501532
Maybe I'm odd, but I prefer playing bunnies myself.
I dunno, I just like working with what I know. I prefer being a far more interesting bunny than the one I am, as opposed to being anything else.
>>3501569
post part 1?
>>3501558
don't listen to him, go to bed or you will die earlier, shaving off these last few years of your life when you're useless, forgotten and annoy everyone just by existing.
>>3501558
No, it's his bedtime.
>>3501513
I'm willing to bet Canis lupus would, especially if you consider the artificial versions we've made.
>>3501580
I rather play a fox. I like to steal from the npc's
>>3501605
Oh come on, though
Being a Bunny Rogue is the best. NPCs never suspect a thing until their coinpurse is half-way across town
>>3501550
Jesus, why is there always one of these fucks in every tabletop session.
I had a guy bring a friend, his favorite thing to do was to get completely naked in an attempt to startle whoever we were facing, friend or foe, then try to rob them and run away.
>>3501513
Panthera tigris too. Maybe including the extinct/recently-extinct ones.
Hey, /trash/. Gonna take requests
>>3501425
>bamboo
Best tablet for a low price, using one now.
>>3501589
>>3501525
Oh please, Caves of Time was a horrible supplement book
It goes against the Human mythos of them being created from soil by the Lord of the Stars before defying him, and half the feats and items introduced in it are absolutely useless or directly go against the base rules of the game.
It's badly written and should be avoided by real gamers at all costs.
>>3501534
10/10
WOULD BANG
ay, sorry I haven't been around much
any quick requests I can do?
mostly sfw if you can
>>3501570
>real art
I agree with starting with traditional, and that I like doing it that way a lot. but don't be condescending
>>3501642
he's clearly not condescending, merely giving you good advice.
I wrote a Zootopia-themed D&D system.
Got a shit ton of documents on it too.
>>3501570
>real art
>real thing
don't be that guy
>>3501571
It's best to just assume I'm a casual writer who got way in over her head. Weaver's 'influence' was to the extent of "stop being depressed and keep going because more people enjoy this than don't"
>>3501632
More reason to play GURPS. Their supplements are on point
>>3501658
Sure, and if I was a min-maxing piece of garbage I might do that
But I prefer having characters that aren't walking gods.
>>3501605
Oh, fuck you.
>>3501658
true but Foxes are more agile and when cornered they are better with knives to defend
>>3501649
Wait, you're familiar with the D20 SRD right? Not sure if there's one for 5th ed but there is/was one for 3rd/3.5 ed. You can use that as a base.
It's weird how the same ideas crop up.
I was just reading a FNAF AU where a bunch of animals are playing a D&D game about humans, who they consider a fantasy race, and give them all kinds of weird abilities and powers, like heat vision.
To see it here now in such a similar form is really amusing.
>>3501638
Judy suplexing Nic...Gideon
>>3501649
So is ztg gonna have a massive d&d session in the future?
>>3501594
>>3501591
Lies Alec is a robot designed for bondage, drawing and fucking he does not require sleep
>>3501638
This with Nick and Judy
>>3501638
Judy's sisters. Give us new OCs to waifu. Im tired of these old ones.
>>3501686
Eh, it's understandable. There's generally going to be a crossover between fans of X and fans of Tabletops, and it's fun to consider how a tabletop might be different in a different universe.
>>3501682
I already have it fully set up. I've done several sessions with it. At this point, it can only be expanded on.
>>3501690
I don't really host sessions much anymore. I don't have as much time for it as I used to and I have to set aside a few hours to set up each session.
>>3501638
Judy picking carrots
>>3501649
Good effort! But if we are going to be real, Jadeclaw and Ironclaw would probably be an easier system to translate for Zootopia
>>3501709
I'm not surprised, it's just kind of an amusing coincidence.
>>3501703
>detective
Gotta love that trademark Bogo sardonic wit.
>>3501724
Mine is actually a mix of a few different systems. Mostly 3.5 and a homebrew one I took part in. It works well enough for I needed.
>>3501717
Wait...did you base it on 4th ed?
Guys, what's Doug's brother's name?
Also, is everyone okay with Fournier having an estranged wife and two kids he never gets to see?
>>3501746
you could use Eclipse Phase. in my opinion thats the most easy system to use and learn
>>3501752
Walt Jr
>>3501758
Eclipse Phase is fucking rad, but I am not sure if it has much to offer when decoupled from its setting
>>3501752
Duke
>>3501749
>>3501746
Look here^
>>3501758
I found writing my own system out based on the ones I understood worked much better for me as I could recall specific details without having to refer back. Only had to refer back to the document I wrote up if I was unsure on a ruling.
>Pic rev, but is only some of the topics covered in the manual I wrote
>>3501772
if you add and remove some skills depening on the setting it could work.
>>3501752
>Also, is everyone okay with Fournier having an estranged wife and two kids he never gets to see?
That fits his character like a glove. Adds a little extra depth to his cynicism.
>>3501783
so that means doug's mom was a predophile
>>3501638
Can you draw avery and ellie sharing a meal?
>>3501798
I love Fournier
>>3501804
I wish memes were real.
>>3501033
mfw some anon in this thread is actually aroused at that prospect
>>3501823
is...is this a 69 joke?
>>3501797
Oh it'm not saying it wouldn't work, just that the best part of EP is its setting, not its rules. But that's just my opinion
GURPS is always a solid choice, if just because it's flexible, and has rules for every god damn thing under the sun.
>>3501837
No! I just want a cute picture of them together having dinner.
I like them.
Morning, thread
And what a lovely morning it is
We've got a new special just for y'all
Hope you've all got something to look forward to today
>>3501416
I heard they'll have infrared vision to offset their colour blindness.
>>3501846
I hate gurps with a passion. it has too many rules
>>3501859
make me a drink with extra autism antelope man, i got a long day ahead
>>3501638
Bogo as Nemesis
>>3501859
I'll have something comfy
>>3501859
huh
this is the first time I don't get the joke on the Special of the Day.
>>3501831
full pic?
>>3501872
That's fair. It's a bit intuitive, but I rather like how the rules work. Or maybe that's just being so very, very tired of d20 systems
>>3501859
I'm looking forward to the end of the day where i can go to sleep again.
>>3501876
depression can be pretty comfy once you get used to it
>>3501912
is it like FNaF or something?
idgi.
>>3501752
I was gonna write him as just divorced. His marriage didn't last long enough to have kids.
>>3501859
Choco milk please